Your speakers are a waste of space

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  • @forsakenrider
    @forsakenrider ปีที่แล้ว +485

    Not sure if someone has mentioned it, but as someone who has worked in a glass shop for around 5 years I've used A LOT of that weldon stuff. The best way to apply it is to actually put your parts together and then apply the weldon to the seam and let it wick in. You'll instantly see it starting to melt the acrylic together.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Ahhhh now this is a good tip, thank you! The applicator makes way more sense now

    • @MichaelLivingston-me
      @MichaelLivingston-me ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Really nice work 👍
      I like this project so much, I might have to copy these. A diffusion dome or panel would be a good idea.

    • @mytuberforyou
      @mytuberforyou ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is DEFINITELY the way to solvent weld, although for the best seams he really should have used UV cure glue to avoid microbubbles.

    • @matthewroderique7468
      @matthewroderique7468 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As an actual acrylic fabricator, 100% agree, it works by capillary action, like water it will flow into the gap

    • @mattadulting
      @mattadulting ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I came to say this as well... only way to do it.

  • @zepromz
    @zepromz ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Wire strippers at 13'27" - A little tip for you. When you strip the end of the wire, leave the excess insulation ON and use that between your fingertips to twist the strands, THEN pull it off. That way you don't get finger grease all over the strands and it makes the solder joint more reliable. Great video btw!

    • @alphaforce6998
      @alphaforce6998 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, or you could just, you know, not be a disgusting slob and wash your hands after you get done eating your jar of mayonnaise.

    • @Drinkyoghurt
      @Drinkyoghurt ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also, those type of wire strippers are pretty trash in my experience. Get some Jokari or if you have a lot of money to waste some Knipex or Wiha ones. The Jokari cost me €12 and were well worth it. Great Scott! recommends them as well.

    • @phelixthedj
      @phelixthedj ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow, not sure how I didn't know that trick. You learn something new every day. Thank you for that comment. Whether he learns from it or not, I just did.

    • @timf-tinkering
      @timf-tinkering ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Dad taught me this when I was a nipper. It also makes it much easier and quicker to twist the strands as you can just roll the insulation between your fingers.

  • @JohnWarner-lu8rq
    @JohnWarner-lu8rq ปีที่แล้ว +403

    You cannot make a speaker sound it's best in a cabinet without knowing the free air resonance, and the same goes for the port size/shape/type.

    • @real_nc461
      @real_nc461 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      The acrylic probably resonates, the woofers are rather nonlinear, there's a lot of problems with the built. Nonetheless, it looks like a fun project.

    • @pnichols6500
      @pnichols6500 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I don't think good sound is his priority.

    • @timbaumann9046
      @timbaumann9046 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      my point EXACTLY!!! without knowing that you are just fooling around in the dark!

    • @Traqr
      @Traqr ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The C-Note MT kit has the cabinet panel dimensions laid out for you - figuring out the interior dimensions from the MDF plans is pretty trivial. The crossovers and ports are part of the kit too.
      I suspect the mismatch in resonances between the hardwood and the acrylic might actually help his sound out, but I'm not sure. I do wish his skyline diffuser was down at listening level where it's supposed to be though 19:02. That's not just decoration...

    • @xanderguldie
      @xanderguldie ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is a kit wiseguy

  • @officialtree5245
    @officialtree5245 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    can we talk about how cool the post mortem aspect of these videos are? like no one else does that, and its really helpful to see how to improve something.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It's a good outlet for me because I always find 10 different ways I could've done a project better by actually building it. Designing is one thing, but going hands on makes things a lot more clear

    • @officialtree5245
      @officialtree5245 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZacBuilds yeah i just finished my first project, and it had so many ups and downs so it was literally a roller coaster of happiness and sadness while making it lol.

    • @RichardBronosky
      @RichardBronosky ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I totally agree. I had stumbled upon a few Zac Builds videos, but was never compelled to subscribe. (No offense, I am more of the long-time Adafruit customer, "RIP Philips Hue & Govee" type than I am the "tear the guts out of a Philips Hue" type.) However, it was the Post Mortem aspect of the videos that finally earned my Subscription.

    • @justaskin8523
      @justaskin8523 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1 for the post mortem! "Lessons Learned" is essential for everything from fabrication to car repair to gardening to IT because if you don't do that, you'll never be able to improve on future designs. This is a perfect example: Now you know you need to measure ... well, "everything" so that you don't have to cut away wood to make room for LED or crossover assemblies should you ever decide to do another speaker project. And I have an idea for another project. Make a set of speakers similar to the old "Magnaplanar" ones that don't need "box-shaped" enclosures, resulting in speakers about as thick as a framed painting. That would be truly space-saving, and I'm sure you could figure out a way to go completely bonkers with the LED rigging!

    • @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
      @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZacBuilds i cant put my speakers on table that because it's pounds 191and it's a dual pa speaker that 6400 watts and plays at 138 db

  • @Phrew
    @Phrew ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Turn this wasted space into something functional"
    Dude...that space is functional and far from wasted. It's necessary to create good sound.

  • @jasmeralia
    @jasmeralia ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Seeing someone wearing PPE when it's probably not necessary is very relieving with so many makers not using it when it really should be used. Major kudos.

    • @daveahlman1
      @daveahlman1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      12:45 however, when grinding PBC material, you must wear a respirator (or hold your breath). You don't want those glass fibers in your lungs.

    • @alex8527-w1q
      @alex8527-w1q ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daveahlman1 Ever so true grasshopper.

  • @cowbear
    @cowbear ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The reason the applicator looks like a needle is because you actually push the acrylic together and use the needle to apply the Weldon to the corners. Because it's so thin, the Weldon actually seeps into the corner and spreads itself out. You can look up people build aquarium tanks :)

    • @alphaforce6998
      @alphaforce6998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Underrated comment. Just think of the soldiers' lives who could be saved if we made tanks out of acrylic. It's like permanent camo...and if they can travel under water, that's even better for those sneak attacks!

  • @Wildeedge
    @Wildeedge ปีที่แล้ว +126

    As an audiophile, you don't have to have the best quality. Sometimes it's about making yourself and your setup happy. Just because I wouldn't do doesn't mean you can't.

    • @snjert8406
      @snjert8406 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep!

    • @simonrano8072
      @simonrano8072 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Too many people wast money on fancy hardware and psychological cables just to use their set up at 1/4 the power in a non treated room not even respecting speakers positionning requirements.

    • @gdj6298
      @gdj6298 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@simonrano8072 Yep. The rest of us think "That sounds nice" and then just enjoy the music.
      While drinking the wine that we bought with the money we saved by using ordinary mains cable to connect our speakers. 😁

    • @chinmeysway
      @chinmeysway ปีที่แล้ว

      Aw a semi non recovered audioperv let’s there be subjectivity, how cute!

    • @williameldridge9382
      @williameldridge9382 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're not an audiophile. You made a sensible, reasonable comment. Audiophiles don't do that. Perhaps you're a recovering audiophile?

  • @nelsonbrum8496
    @nelsonbrum8496 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The cool thing about TH-cam instructional videos is that you can see and avoid all the mistakes made before giving it a go on your own.
    And if desk space is at a premium, make panel speakers and hang them on the wall.

    • @Kiham80
      @Kiham80 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Part of the problem imho with videos on speaker building on youtube is that they always show the build process. And never the design process or talking about why they do something. Actually building the box is usually the easy thing to do.

  • @matthewbartos2971
    @matthewbartos2971 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Something you can do with acrylic to get it fogged/frosted is using an orbital sander with a medium high grit 180-200 and going over the surface of the acrylic. This is a diy approach and can be used if you accidentally nick one of the surfaces and don’t want to restart.

  • @SqueamishPuppet
    @SqueamishPuppet ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I absolutely love the dual purpose with the lighting as well. That thinner acrylic probably isn't the best for sound, but there are trade-offs in design. If you think they sound good, that is all that matters!

  • @nickrveira
    @nickrveira ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I really appreciate how your content has evolved, it's nice to see you make items for yourself that you actually use. Keep it up!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man, I appreciate you being with me long enough to see the change! It sometimes gets tough finding stuff to make I actually need/want, the house is starting to get pretty full 😂

  • @kubricksghost6058
    @kubricksghost6058 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really like that Zac doesn't edit out his mistakes along the way! It's super realistic and actually very valuable to learn from!

  • @ModernHobbyist
    @ModernHobbyist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome project and amazing results! I made an acrylic speaker a while back and I'm still working to get rid of the rattling, glad that wasn't a problem in this build!

  • @djVania08
    @djVania08 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Dude's running out of desk space, dude's also having 150 inch TV on his desk.😂

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's also less than an inch thick and set at the very rear edge of my desk with a custom made mount.

    • @photonfartsqueeze6694
      @photonfartsqueeze6694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would mount that monitor to the wall.

    • @ArcturusCOG
      @ArcturusCOG ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@photonfartsqueeze6694 yea just screw it into the windows behind it 🤯🤯

  • @cyrusjordan1754
    @cyrusjordan1754 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I absolutely love when we make mistakes in making furniture or stuff like this, moments like this truly show how adaptable a person is, improvise, adapt, overcome🤣

  • @qapla
    @qapla ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those look very nice and seem to be a good design.
    A couple ideas: 1) you could have used heat to bend the acrylic into a squared-off-u-shape and eliminated the Weldon 2) although it would eliminate light from the top, you could have made the top wood (leaving the sides acrylic and eliminated any seams) and incorporated wireless charging pads in the top of each speaker.

  • @erwalkerca
    @erwalkerca ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks like the only desk space you save was from putting your lights inside the speakers. In fact, it almost looks like your new speakers have the same or slightly larger footprint as the speakers you replaced.

  • @matthysloedolff
    @matthysloedolff ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I heard you talk about this on the podcast.
    It turned out really nice. I like how you integrate technology with woodworking. your channel seems to have a taste of DIY Perks with a strong focus on walnut instead of aluminium - which I like.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Walnut over everything!

    • @JustinCrediblename
      @JustinCrediblename ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ZacBuilds stainless for me. Aluminum for the jobs that aren't terribly needing in aesthetics. Normal steel if I'm either on a budget or doing something indoors in a dry room. House fires just aren't my thing.
      I have maple floors and I regret it. 'can't trust a medium income set of renters to not damage it whenever I leave.

  • @TheDaniel85
    @TheDaniel85 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Zac! I do appreciate the Idea behind the build, as well as the quality of the work. You do however have some technical issues of varying degree.
    First of all, you NEED some kind of dampening material in the cabinets, I realize that it might interfere with the lighting idea.. But there's pretty fluffy white poly filling that does the job just fine. The reason behind this is to absorb the back wave from the driver. Not doing this will result in pretty iffy resonance issues as it 'bounces' off the rear panel.
    Second, A baffle that thick with a small midrange driver should have the rear of the cutout rounded or chamfered on the back side to help the driver 'breathe'. This can otherwise impact the midrange response. Depending on driver and baffle thickness, this might be an issue. It's good practice to just do it and be safe.
    Third, Plexi as a material is fine actually.. Honestly most common materials are fine if it's structurally sound and thick enough, as long as it has proper bracing/support. These do not have proper support and are too thin though. So, you'll likely have resonance issues there as well. Your hardwood is fine, nothing wrong with it.
    Otherwise, great job on the build and keep doing things! If you for some reason decide to do more audio things, feel free to reach out.

    • @jackmarshall2496
      @jackmarshall2496 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The number of comments on this video stating he did it wrong are baffling yours is the first I've seen with genuine advice. I have seen speaker cabinets with void space and no dampening but this space's volume and surfaces are specially designed to act as wave guides for each individual driver. This from my limited knowledge seems very complex to design around but definitely does seem to improve sound quality based on the speakers I've seen that implement them.

    • @TheDaniel85
      @TheDaniel85 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jackmarshall2496 Thank you! I try to offer sound advice and constructive criticism. I was speaking about his design mostly. But in general.. you cannot get away from some kind of damping behind the a driver covering the midrange unless it's.. open baffle or sealed back drivers. There are other creative solutions with varying degrees of success. The main thing is that the rear wave needs to be addressed, how is less important.
      For speakers only covering bass, it's another story and not necessarily needed. :)

  • @drg9522
    @drg9522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The whole thing can be solved by building supports that allow the speakers to be mounted outside of the desk

  • @andremartinez418
    @andremartinez418 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The end product looks so clean. Well done

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andre!

  • @tungstentoaster
    @tungstentoaster ปีที่แล้ว +8

    > Your speakers are a waste of space
    > Makes same size speakers that sound worse.

  • @IamAJoe
    @IamAJoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those speakers look absolutely amazing. I have always loved the idea of people building their own speakers for that personal touch but this is a pair I haven't seen with lights be used like that. Very nice work.

  • @thematlandry
    @thematlandry ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is this video's entire premise centered on "space saving" yet the speakers are huge.

  • @MathieuCruzel
    @MathieuCruzel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the space saving feature above all else in this build. Very clever, I have a similar setup with a custom made soundbar and these same Philips Hue lights and I wish we had this video a few months back, I probably would have tried integrating the lights for a big fat behind the screen defuse ambiance.

    • @jimrosson6702
      @jimrosson6702 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very cool 😎 they look great

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now you're giving me ideas! I just moved and need to redo my media center. Maybe I'll try and work some LEDs into my big wide center channel.... 🤔

    • @MathieuCruzel
      @MathieuCruzel ปีที่แล้ว

      Now this I have to see. With an ambilight like setup built into it, it could be great 😃

  • @djambush360
    @djambush360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:27 "They are only 40 watts". The 'watts' don't say how loud a speaker can play. There are horn-systems out there that will provide rock-concert volume with only 20 watts or so. It's the level of efficiency that can give you a hint (a speaker with 85dB will get not the half as loud as a speaker with 95 dB when provided with the same input power). These Speakers actually turned out pretty nice. Much better than i've expected in the beginning. Well done.

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've noticed this. I had a Dali Spektor 1 and a Bill Fitzmaurice Omnitop 12 connected to the same system and I had to turn the perceived volume up 3 times as high to get the Dali to be as loud as the Omnitop 12. The Dali sounded nicer (at least without the EQ module) but small bookshelf speakers with 4" woofers will suck down power to make them loud compared to a 12" and 1" compression driver.

  • @amichelis
    @amichelis ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Oh dear, this is an "audiophile's" torture! Even I feel mildly infuriated, but I really enjoyed the aesthetic! The last "I'd like to incorporate more things within the speaker", tho, was the final nail in the coffin, like a stab in my chest when i thought triggering was done 🤣
    Keep up the good work!❤‍🔥

    • @alphaforce6998
      @alphaforce6998 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Pretty much this. I'm not an audiophile but if we're going to take the time to build speakers we may as well do it properly. I'm still not sure why he needs to save space on a giant, empty desk.

    • @amichelis
      @amichelis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alphaforce6998 well, my guess is "clean-desk aesthetic", which i Also enjoy! That said, one can use newer speaker technologies such as hard shell and mechanical bass drivers to shrink their size! Introducing lighting and other AC and/or PWM power sources within a noise-sensitive piece of equipment is generally considered a bad practice

    • @Sombre____
      @Sombre____ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What give me the more pain is to see the cheap rca cables used to connect the speakers ... i don't even want to see the amp.

    • @aaronb1138
      @aaronb1138 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The video is all trolling. Not just audiophiles, but really it's designed to drive mildly negative engagement from a variety of domain enthusiasts (cabinet builders, expert makers, LED lighting fans, etc.) while pretending to be maker-ey / tinker-ey enough to elicit a warm fuzzy counter argument from people with less of a clue of how they've been manipulated by the fast talk method. Most people trying CA glue the first time on acrylic are in for a bad time when it frosts splotchy and ugly, when other adhesives work. "Oh look I forgot about the crossover!" is just as fake as any other reality TV bit. It just goes on and on with trolling.
      Even the initial premise is bs. People who value desk real estate put their monitors on adjustable mounts and speakers either wall mounted or on other elevated platforms, leaving the desk space clear for other uses. Heck the old school PC Hifi Logitech Z-560s had stands that pivoted into wall mounts 22 years ago and probably sound better.

    • @heMANshred
      @heMANshred ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@aaronb1138 I've never seen this channel before but you nailed it. It's genius really. Imagine how many algorithms this guy is in!

  • @merakrut
    @merakrut ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The less you know, the happier you are. This guy is really happy.

    • @TechDove
      @TechDove 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL

  • @pawellok
    @pawellok ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Original Parts-express kit describes MDF cabinets, not without serious reason: MDF (Medium Density Fibreboard, mostly wooden fibre) has not only desirable stiffness, but also has a proper internal self-damping, which is very different in acrylic material. So this project is rather a curious and funny thing, if not a waste of work, and maybe few dozens qubic inches between front and back panel less occupied space, so the title was just a clickbait. It's not really less space on a desk, plus IMHO surely worse acoustic ringing of the sides and top panel, especially without any internal damping material or some bracing. But then these boxes wouldn't look so unusual, and that's probably what the author wanted to stand out from the crowd, not necessarily the best possible sound from this P-ex kit.
    BTW: I'm not an audiophile, but a sound engineer who also made some DIY loudspeaker cabinets AND also mesurements of much more commercial loudspeakers and studio monitors (including accelerometer checking of sides of cabinets).

  • @FIintztone
    @FIintztone ปีที่แล้ว

    Where has this guy been my whole life and how many skills does he have? The best mix of tech and DIY I didn’t know I needed.

  • @rafflesmaos
    @rafflesmaos ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At first I thought based on the title that you were going to do DML type DIY speakers and wall mount them, but these are pretty cool too even if they don't exactly save any space :)

    • @tboj
      @tboj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Came here for this. How is this saving space, really?

  • @jonq8714
    @jonq8714 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just built a desktop organizer/soudbar with 2 4" drivers and 1 5" sub. It's 7" tall, 7" deep and runs the lenght of my desk to make the speaker volumes work. It looks gorgeous since it's made from walnut.

  • @JeffHeon
    @JeffHeon ปีที่แล้ว

    What a wonderful concept! With the frosting, it almost looks as if there is fog inside 🌫️

  • @josephawatson
    @josephawatson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    from what I recall weldon is basically a solvent that melts the plastic. it would have been easier to hold the joint together then put the adhesive in the joint. it then melts the plastic together. you cant use it in the way like you would other glues. thats why its so thin.

  • @cloidless
    @cloidless ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That looks very nice! Would be cool if you could make the lighting inside react to the sound they are playing

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They actually can! The only catch is you have to use Spotify as it's the only app that integrates with philips hue. I don't use Spotify tho :(

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the idea of incorporating desk hogging components into the speakers. However, I feel like you would benefit greatly from lifting the speakers off of the desk with some stands. I have my speakers mounted on a hacked together combination of $30 computer screen stands and speaker wall mounting brackets. It works beautifully. I can move my speakers side to side and rotate them in and out on the fly. The biggest drawbacks are that height adjustment is a complicated process, there is no way to slide the speakers forwards and back, and the speakers don't like to stay perfectly level on this stand. I need to revise this idea to make it easier to move them around and make them perfectly level. But still, I'm very happy with this solution even with the small drawbacks. My speakers are just floating above my desk, not wasting space, and I didn't have to drill holes in the wall.

    • @TheAnoniemo
      @TheAnoniemo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, I have my speakers lifted onto some monitor arms (The type with the clamp and the bar that goes straight up). Now they take up no desk space plus they're at ear level.

    • @BrendanWeibrecht
      @BrendanWeibrecht ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With the goal being to save space, I thought using stands was such an obvious choice - I was so suprised when he didn't!

  • @chrisandkat
    @chrisandkat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic idea and a beautiful finished product! They look awesome!

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @declinox
    @declinox ปีที่แล้ว

    Those Irwin wire strippers are the bomb! I've been using them for a year or so and will never go back to stripping wires using the old-school wire strippers.

  • @stevevaughan1583
    @stevevaughan1583 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had fully acrylic subwoofer enclosures in the 90’s to early 2000’s they sounded great

  • @spekkspekk6036
    @spekkspekk6036 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay so I’m just so angry that I’m just now finding your channel cause I love tech and love wood working. And your the perfect middle ground.

  • @weeverob
    @weeverob ปีที่แล้ว

    with that particular glue the pieces to be glued are first moved into the final position so when the glue is introduced to the joint it spreads evenly via capillary action

  • @geofferydeanjackson9244
    @geofferydeanjackson9244 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    From someone that has built alot of speakers, you did a pretty good job.

  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "LED diodes"
    The D in LED already stands for Diode, no need to repeat the word. "Light Emitting Diode Diode"...

  • @kid_rajah
    @kid_rajah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the idea but I noticed some aesthetics you maybe missed. I would have channeled the mid range driver a bit further to ad a cover plate over. (Which may be in your next video for a speaker grill.) I would chamfer the three edges on the front so more elegant styling would really make the build stand out. Maybe print a signature on the back and clear coat the front and back with matte clear finish.

  • @alistairblaire6001
    @alistairblaire6001 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone wants to do DIY custom speakers keep in mind you can cut the driver holes with a router and a circle jig. It's kind of a pain but you can cut really nice accurate circles. My DIY speakers have overlapping drivers and that's how I cut them. The left and right speakers look identical.

  • @calyodelphi124
    @calyodelphi124 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've gotta save this video somehow because I LOVE the idea of building ambient lighting into the speakers like that :D

  • @RexyTheGryphon
    @RexyTheGryphon ปีที่แล้ว

    funnily enough i scavenged speakers out of an old soundbar which had a absolutely drenched board. took this old 250watt PA system amp and ive been running the 50/60 watt 6 inch sub as a primary (hoping to find and scavange a second one with a ported box) with two small like 4 by 2 inch rectangle speakers which are about 25-30 watts each for this odd combination of deep low and decent highs. Very good work!

  • @Cpt_Adama
    @Cpt_Adama ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a desktop speaker you may not get into this situation, but ideally you don’t want the sides of your speakers to vibrate. At louder volumes and at certain frequencies you my introduce distortion from the thin and low mass sides. An acrylic rod say 1” diameter could be glued in the center of the panels as side bracing to help mitigate this.

  • @JungYT
    @JungYT ปีที่แล้ว

    For future speakers, consider using a Dayton Audio KAB amplifier with DSP. You can eliminate the passive crossovers along with the associated downsides. Each driver will get its own tuned amplifier and you can order mounting and control hardware. To save desktop space in my own setup, I bought some ART RM5 studio monitors. They are especially thin powered speakers with VESA mounting holes. I removed the stands and attached monitor arms to each, so that they are completely off the desk and positioned perfectly to the sides of my monitor.

  • @jeffbrooke4892
    @jeffbrooke4892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool. Looks like it was a fun project. Thanks for the video.

  • @fadilojifinni9708
    @fadilojifinni9708 ปีที่แล้ว

    When those lights came on >>>>>>>>>>>❤

  • @kilgoretrout4461
    @kilgoretrout4461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The two things that really stood out to me that you should consider in any future build is that when porting a speaker, you never want to run a straight port aimed directly at the back of a speaker. I don’t know if you actually calculated the port size and length that should be used in your build to get the best sound out of your drivers, but if you didn’t, you should. And after calculating, you should keep that number in mind when sticking a 90° elbow on the end of the port. So that the port wouldd stay within the best recommended size for your speaker, but no longer would you be running a straight port aimed directly at the back of your driver.
    The other thing that I saw that you should keep in mind for future builds is bracing. The reason people don’t use acrylic for their speaker builds very often is because it can flex easily with the speaker playing. You mitigate vibrations and flexing by bracing your cabinet. So it would have been helpful if you could have braced all that internal space with maybe somr acrylic arches, running front to back, left to right or vice versa.
    they’re cool speakers. Just a couple things to keep in mind next time when building a pair. Cheers.

    • @photonfartsqueeze6694
      @photonfartsqueeze6694 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. The overlapping of speakers is a real problem.

    • @alphaforce6998
      @alphaforce6998 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of all the issues that did exist with this project, a lack of stiffness is not among them. He did (apparently) neglect to use gasket material in the channels so air will seep through even if the channels are tight. Bracing is really only needed in high-power applications or where the cabinet is large such as with subwoofers. Thick acrylic sheets are actually very stiff. Here he is using a cheapo chinese 40w amp that is probably not going to reach its rated power anytime soon.

    • @kilgoretrout4461
      @kilgoretrout4461 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphaforce6998 thanks for the insight. I wasn’t aware, or don’t pick up on, the amp size. That all makes sense. Yes, thick acrylic is stiff. Is it thick acrylic though? It appeared to be pretty thin acrylic
      To me. And I contend that it’s highly likely that that acrylic is relatively resonant. It’s no where near as effectively damped as if it had been just a normal speaker box the same size. And I also contend that you can’t exactly go wrong with more bracing. You may be right that the amp is just so mildly powered that it’s not going to push the driver to the point where resonance is an issue, but personally, I would rather go overkill on bracing and damping
      Than to just not even consider it within the design. There are speakers with much stiffer enclosures than this speaker with 3 acrylic sides that still brace their enclosures well. It may have taken away from the aesthetics of this build so it wasn’t worth sacrificing them at all for what the speakers are. You’re probably right there.

    • @alphaforce6998
      @alphaforce6998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kilgoretrout4461 I've been building speakers for a while and have made some excellent-sounding original designs. I have also tried some ideas that I ultimately didn't like.
      My suggestion for anyone that wants this kind of speaker with clear side panels and LED lighting is to internally enclose the speaker drivers in a wooden cabinet, then on the outside you can put the acrylic panels and lighting. At least that way, the aesthetic elements will not hinder the sound quality. The lighting can be accomplished with an LED strip, and with the strip you have more options for placement. It can still be made to sync with that lighting system he was using.
      You are correct that acrylic does not offer much in the way of dampening so it will definitely amplify resonances inside the box, which will make certain sound frequency ranges sound "muddy" due to the interference.

  • @Numenor7
    @Numenor7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can achieve the same effect of slightly "melting" / gluing acrylic using acetone. Also super glue works quite well.

  • @thedelawarevalleyworkshop
    @thedelawarevalleyworkshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those speakers are Sweeeet! Nice! Inspired to try it myself

  • @NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie
    @NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if everything will go as smooth if you just bend the acrylic with heat to avoid making them miters & using the weld-on stuff. It would definitely be seamless. But then you would need to round over to match the curves of the corner bend 🤔.
    I'm actually working on a portable boombox as well and ordered my BT large ammo speaker kit Friday from Parts Express. My version also includes frosted acrylic AND walnut. No bending though as I'm doing something different & do not require much

  • @boatbeard7767
    @boatbeard7767 ปีที่แล้ว

    All solvent welding relies on introducing precise amounts of the solvent to parts already fitted together with sufficient gap to allow capillary action to draw the solvent through the join. Then after sufficient time for softening of the surface, mild pressure is applied to force them together and as the solvent fully evaporates over time you have a fully fused 'welded' joint.

  • @YASIREGAR79
    @YASIREGAR79 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am very happy too, this speaker make inspiration for more project to the future.

  • @g4egk
    @g4egk ปีที่แล้ว

    The cross over board you've used is similar to perfboard or solderable breadboard. Two common types are padboard and stripboard

  • @draztiqmeshaz6226
    @draztiqmeshaz6226 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In this exciting episode, Zac sort of plans out something awesome without planning ahead somehow, again.
    I'm messing with you bro, beautiful work as always.

  • @jasonchung4051
    @jasonchung4051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You might want to add air vents the unit to allow the heat from the LED's to dissipate. The life of you LED is be shorten quite significantly from the build of heat. Seems a lot of builders that include LED into their projects over the importance of air flow for LED's

  • @danielh12345
    @danielh12345 ปีที่แล้ว

    I built lights underneath my speaker stand (the platform where the speakers sit on) instead. Just some CCT COB led strips connected to hue with a gledopto controller. Does the job, different type of illumination though. Just a thought for people who don't want to make new speakers. Very cool idea though!

  • @t4N9410oR
    @t4N9410oR ปีที่แล้ว

    In the post mortem, one thing you overlooked was what caused you to need to fix things on the fly, to make the LED strip fit, and make the perf board crossover network fit.
    So doing all the measurements first, and figuring out how things will fit, on pen and paper or in CAD, before buying and building, is Important.

  • @justcheckinm8
    @justcheckinm8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ref the wire strippers...when the strippers leave the stripped bit attached to the copper strand, use it to twist the copper strand and make a nice uniform and tidy twist. The insulation will pop off since the core reduces in diameter when twisted.

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel man it's fun watching wood work.

  • @DrGonzoChronic
    @DrGonzoChronic ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason the applicator is a needle is so that you bring you seams together than run the needle along that inside corner and liquid is so thin it permeates into joint.

  • @OCDRex11
    @OCDRex11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was one of, if not, the best build I have watched from you! Fantastic job! All of the tools you have at your disposal is honestly a jealousy point, but oh well, lol. Not too late to print a diffuser (half moon) in clear petg and add it I would think. Great job!

  • @acronus
    @acronus ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny note on using solid stock to make boxes. I've tried it myself. One box is square, the other has twisted. So if the bases are pushed together, one if facing straight forward, the other is a few degrees to the left. Stayed sealed, so meh whatever :-)

  • @alaricpaley6865
    @alaricpaley6865 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was the one doing these, I'd have done heat-bent acrylic. Love the execution and the end result though, real good stuff.

  • @TheEvertw
    @TheEvertw ปีที่แล้ว

    "I am constantly running out of desk space"
    Looks to me like you have plenty. You should see my desk.

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zac absolutely beautiful design there. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man! Hope you're doing well and making yourself! Cheers.

  • @csj9619
    @csj9619 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those little 12 volt drivers are no joke. I built an entire deck with one of 'em.

  • @chuckfinley5206
    @chuckfinley5206 ปีที่แล้ว

    And this is why I save boxes of parts when I take apart salvaged electronics. Some even think I'm nuts. Got a place that gives me free electronics.

  • @MyklCarlton
    @MyklCarlton ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent piece!
    One note which probably didn't impact this build - CA glue can fog acrylic.

  • @fiingerzz
    @fiingerzz ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the look of these speakers, they so unique wish i had them to match with my bedroom studio❤🔥

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen ปีที่แล้ว

    13:32 A nice example of so called "cold solder" where you have too little heat in the material and all the heat in the solder. This may work for a short while but it will typically crack in the long run and you'll have to resolder it again, hopefully right next time.

  • @stevevaughan1583
    @stevevaughan1583 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m also really hoping one day to see some one integrate speakers into a desk with the enclosures underneath for a clean smooth top surface

  • @rayneozier
    @rayneozier 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:28 the speaker kind of looks like a time door from Loki. That’s fire.

  • @wilhelmjohansson6273
    @wilhelmjohansson6273 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get some foam circles that you put between the midrange and the cabinet when you screw it in (unless already applied to the speaker)

  • @noblegas34
    @noblegas34 ปีที่แล้ว

    the insulator material raised the speakers a perfect amount to install some LEDs underneath!

  • @KYoss68
    @KYoss68 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'm constantly running out of desk space" says the man with a totally clean 9ft desk.

  • @OrangeismyNewGreen
    @OrangeismyNewGreen ปีที่แล้ว

    They look amazing, great idea to add the lights inside 👍🏻

  • @EVmike
    @EVmike ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgot the damping inside... Makes the bass sound like a plastic box. Oh, wait.

  • @SHENRAR
    @SHENRAR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People loose their shit over wattage in speakers... unless you live in a stadium, there is no need for crazy powerful speakers. Beautiful build by the way.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya it's so true, these are uncomfortably loud in my office, not really ever going to need to get louder than that

  • @fabianstanislaus5925
    @fabianstanislaus5925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks good and nicely executed but I build spekers myself and know what a cabinet should or shouldnt do and there is absolutely no way that this is a good one. There might be no rattle but the acrylic is flexing and therefore essentially acting like a driver when it really should be as stiff as possible!

  • @jimthvac100
    @jimthvac100 ปีที่แล้ว

    has to be cabinet resonances with thin walls no bracing and no insulation. Creative build none the less.

  • @tflazurescarlet1425
    @tflazurescarlet1425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is interesting, finally a cnc based speaker box..

  • @MexMX
    @MexMX ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm in love with that workshop

  • @WhyIsThatMyHandle
    @WhyIsThatMyHandle ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice build, I plan to build some as well but my goal will be to have the face at an angle (facing a little bit up) since I'll use them as monitor stand for side monitors

  • @IrfanKhan-ze4yx
    @IrfanKhan-ze4yx ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great. Definitely didn’t solve the wasted real estate issue.

  • @mikethespike7579
    @mikethespike7579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've designed and built easily 300 to 400 loudspeaker boxes in my time, I guess I therefore know something about them. These here look nice, what I'd call good conversation pieces, but that's about all. I seriously doubt they have anything near good audio characteristics.
    My main peeves are the materials. Never ever use hardwood for a box. Sure, hardwoods look cool, but best to leave them for your furniture. The best material I've so far found is low grade MDF that, thick enough (about 2 inches), will readily absorb the echoes in the box. Acrylic sheeting is also a very good material for boxes, I've seen it used on quite a few loudspeakers, but at least an inch thick, not the fraction of an inch used here.
    There is a problem with transparent sides though. With all the wiring and dampening material needed inside these boxes maybe you'd rather hide that mess instead of letting everyone see it.
    I've built boxes out of concrete and terracotta. My dream is to make some out of cast iron, I think that would be the ultimate loudspeaker box. You'd need a crane or at least a forklift truck to move them though.

    • @Nick_4i
      @Nick_4i ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agree. If you want a hardwood look, put a veneer over MDF.

  • @thehollows
    @thehollows ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zac, from one Canadian bother to another, love your work. Keep it up.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man! I'll do my best 😃

  • @DarkstarReborn
    @DarkstarReborn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    add a headphone jake, headphone holder and a usb hub to the speaker. plus you could elevate the speaker adding it to the back of the desk and give you more space on the desk.

  • @SmetcH_13
    @SmetcH_13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding the diffusion of lighstrip - you could have used the original playbar milky diffusors on top of the lighstrip.

  • @monkshood6437
    @monkshood6437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They look awesome, great work man!

  • @rikardekvall3433
    @rikardekvall3433 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great build and finish. Nice! Only one big downside of this project. LED are the worst noice spreaders onto the power net. Might color the sound, but then these speakers aren’t that reviling, so if you could here the noice…..but that’s probably not the case here, for some small desktop speakers. Great build anyway!

  • @TobiPHartmann
    @TobiPHartmann ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice looks and ideas for the future😊
    Thanks for sharing

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That background music you play when you're in your apartment really reminds me of the music from Taz-Mania. Zero coaster use? You sure do like to live dangerously. And I'm curious if that's a Canadian-ism, calling it a crossover board, or if I've been using the wrong name. All my life I've called those perf boards.
    As for ideas about light diffusion, you could try some vellum glued to the acrylic panels, although you have to be careful about watermarks because that'll be highly visible in a scenario like this. Love the walnut.

    • @ZacBuilds
      @ZacBuilds  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I ordered the boards from an American site and they were listed as cross over boards 🤷‍♂️ I think if I want the diffusion to work as well as possible I need to get it closer to the source or the lights. The p95 by itself does diffuse light, just not enough to completely obscure the diodes

    • @t4N9410oR
      @t4N9410oR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here in Australia, soldered prototyping boards are generically called perf boards, as well. The best known brand for them used to be Veroboard
      Solderless wire jumper prototyping boards are known as breadboards, is that the same in Canada?

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@t4N9410oR Here in the US we call those chunky white boards used for prototyping bread boards. I'm not sure if they use the same name in Canada, maybe Zac will respond on that.

  • @andrewwasson6153
    @andrewwasson6153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! Great looking build. I’m a repeat customer of PartsExpress so I’m pretty well versed with their stuff. I think the Woofer/Tweeter placement looks fantastic on the Walnut and the lighting aspect is really great. I’m going to build a set of those too. Really nicely done.

  • @Glasshopper
    @Glasshopper ปีที่แล้ว

    clamp your parts then add the weldon to the seam, capilary action will cause it to flow into the seam.
    also, squeeze your applicator bottle and a SLIGHT constant release of pressure keeps it from dripping when you turn it upside-down.