I ask Bryson DeChambeau why he doesn't shout FORE!
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So what question was Bryson thinking about, if it wasnt the FORE controversy....
Don't understand the dislike of Bryson. Speaks well, changing the game of golf and bringing new players in. Also handled this very well and explained in context (something you don't get when watching on TV)
Cause people don’t like him trying new way to play golf. They think he was jus hurting his game. But the prob a huge brookiee fan also
I'm with ya...I love his approach and, like you said, he's bringing more people to the sport...
You should check out his channel he's actually teaching a beginner. He has so much love for the game
I am indifferent to his approach to golf but could give you a list of reasons why many don't like his personality
He’s handled himself poorly a few times on silly rules and came off as entitled. I don’t fault him but if you aren’t aware of those incidents, you’re misinformed
Bryson is one of my favorites after finally getting to hear him speak for himself. He comes off as aloof but he is an amazing athlete who cares about his craft but is not so aloof that he can not be critical of himself or enjoy himself. I'm really glad I got to know him and think he's one of the most trasparent members of the PGA tour. Kudos to you guys for allowing him to show off a little more of who he is. Well done.
The basic rule you learn when starting to play golf is that when you hear FORE, you duck and put your hands on your head. It's the first thing i teach my students when we go out on the course. but so many people, 54 handicap to 10 hdcp, you yell FORE, and they just look up to the sky "where is the ball coming from" and then they get hit and get mad. Do not scatter or start running. Duck and put your hands up your head en stay their for 7 sec. min.
This, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone run away when there is an incoming ball, they just duck and put their hands over their heads. Not shouting because if the wind is a weak excuse also, you do have arms and can signal yeah?
@@ocat1979 Last couple of shots I've seen on tv people were scattering from someone yelling fore.
They also do have volunteers with paddles at the tee to indicate where the ball is going for the spotters. Pretty much same thing as arm signal.
If your at a tournament, near landing area's should always be watching during tee shot. Even tour players hit it sporadic on off days. Look at Phil, he hits all over the place on a good day
pin this
Great interview, well done for not ducking the difficult question.
Rick, I listened to your podcast and to have such an open conversation with a golf megastar was fantastic. Thank you to all involved, it was terrific
Another great podcast chaps!! I’m not gunna lie… Bryson is fast becoming one of my favourite golfers. He seems like a really genuine guy.
Just seems like an average dude. Like, I can finally watch a guy play golf that's like me. Its cool.
thanks rick great interview really enjoyed it well done!!
I saw a comment on one of Bryson’s vids on TH-cam a while back and it was someone saying they went to school with him and they were glad to see him doing well because he was always a genuine and good person who had time for people and hasn’t changed (I think he replied to the comment as well).
Average Joe's are the absolute cream of the world. He's one of em.
Really enjoyed the interview with Bryson. I respect anyone who endeavors to be the best at what they do.
Proud of ya, Rick, for bringing it up. Good on ya!
It's funny he said he thought he knew what you were about to ask, then had no idea what you were speaking about with "fore". Makes me wonder, what question was he expecting you to ask... Great interview though, really good to have this asked and answered so openly. Makes me like BDC a lot more after hearing this podcast, seems a really decent guy.
I think that was what he actually was expecting but the four/fore joke was throwing him off
He probably expected a question about koepka
Definitely expecting a Brooksy question. Haha!
Probably expected a question about Brooks
Probably the taking too long thing or the over scientific methods. He's used to the ridicule though clearly
This is a great interview, I luv to see it
Bryson is pushing the boundaries and the old traditionalists don't like it, that's why he gets a hard time. He's a fresh breath to the sport if you ask me.
Exactly! Alot of the pros never shout anything at all, guess what nothing as its not about shouting fore at all
Or he's disliked because he's completely unlikeable....
@@paulson_101 what's completely unlikeable?
I mean yelling Fore is like yelling heads up. You can at least point one way or the other and say ball right or left. It’s common decency, not a matter of traditionalist or not.
@@kevinfreeman8435 not sure it matters from 350 yards away
That was 100% the right way to broach the subject and I like how Bryson didn’t shy away. Good on all. Cheers.
Fair play for having the balls to ask that Rick!! Tremendous interview Bryson seems a really cool guy
This was the best so far 👍 great job 👏
What a thoroughly nice guy. This has completely changed my view on him and will be a big supporter moving forward!
Yell "Fore" and go talk to them. Show your concern and ask if they heard you.
I was going to ask on your Facebook post of you asked him this.. glad I waited for a clip.
Great coup to interview him, plus wow, what a lovely guy!!! It’s amazing how the press influences perception…..
Nice one Rick for having the courage to ask the question - great response 😅 Fab content as always, keep up the good work! 👍👍
Thanks! Will do!
I really appreciate Brysons candor here as well
It is a great question, but why do you think it needs "courage" to ask about it? If the guy is known to lack a basic rule, it's a proper question. But that said, maybe there should be some signing to show the officials so they can warn the crowd.
Bryson is a great golfer. Seems like a good person. I think he gets way too much flak from people
I think he's matured over the past couple years. He was hated for his notorious slow play and for being a cry baby at times.
The fact his eating in an interview shows exactly why people don’t like him.
He hits the ball so far, that by the time the ball comes down in the next county, nobody would hear him anyway! :)
My Dad once drove a ball over a low hill during a Police event and knocked out Mayor Ralph Locher of Cleveland (as a Patrolman, technically he hit is boss)!
Why not just have a PGA tour guy call fore when need be.
He can be called the foreman.
This is so underrated
Perfect
Sounds like a waste of money to the pga when the players can easily speak up which most do
Could the caddie not do it?
Great question Rick, very valid point re. message to youn'uns and to cap it off a genius move at the end to lighten the mood and close out with smiles.. I love watching Bryson play and his channel, he was def not enjoying that question though.
Great interview. He handled the question well BUT he should still shout fore regardless of his excuses. It's golf etiquette and the safe and decent thing to do.
He gave some quite legitimate reasons for not shouting 'fore'. Did you not hear those?
@@michaeledwards7967 Legitimate? There is no excuse for ever not giving someone warning to cover their head or face
He hits 400yd drives. Who the fk would even hear him yelling?
@@HuntForParfection Anyone, sound travels well, especially if him, his caddie, playing partners a d other caddies also shout.
Far more likely to hear it, than see him waving
@@sandersson2813 I am not sure if you have heard all of his reasons. If he knows that the ball is not going to reach people, where is the point in shouting 'fore'? Especially if shouting fore risks putting another competitor off.
Great discussion! I’m liking BD more all the time! Y’all are both good for golf.
i like bryson he's exiting for the sport ! wish you would of asked him what question he thought you was going to ask him lol
What a brilliant brilliant podcast 👍👌
"Fore"
"What's that?"
"Exactly"
This nails the whole point.
This whole interview was great.... I am running and lifting and using shaft weight training I want to increase my club head speed to 130 I can hit 122 now well ....once on a shorter swing I get in a Baseball swing played that all my life but have been to 126mph....but I have no idea....where it's going
I’ve seen Bryson on tour and he definitely yells fore sometimes
Sometimes is not enough
@A Geary he answered why he doesn't do it more
@@ageary troll
Good response by Bryson. You guys rock. Keep it up.
Thanks so much!
@@RickShielsGolfShow my pleasure
I would also say that 1) no one is perfect 2) there are massive crowds and people walking everywhere, if you shout fore, crowds 350 yrds down the fairway arent going to hear, and wont even have room to move.. another example of how ridiculous the media is and how they gladly they will make someone look bad to get clicks and likes, terrible
Which tells me... how important the volunteers are, in watching every Tee Shot to pass on as quickly as the can, arrows, flags, colored markers to indicate the direction of the ball, at least, down 65 yds before and after the 300 yd marker. Where nobody in those ranges can even see the ball. . You really can’t see from that distance, the players, pointing in any direction. But you can see brightly colored indicators so the other volunteer on either side can quickly aid peoples view of the ball.
I think more people need to see this and even "fore" me lol opened my mind about Bryson. I'm not fan of him trying to hit it hard as possible but understand he wants to push the sport. Tiger did the same when he came in and was one of the longest hitters.
I got hit by Lee Trevino at the Buick Open in was 1968. It was great for me. It's given me a story tell for years to come and I'm telling it again. Players back then were more social with the gallery then they are now. Side note Free Couples had the best looking and most groupies on the tour. It's good to be Fred
Love Bryson and thanks Rick.
if anyone ever plays poker against Bryson and he starts eating his chicken.....go all in
Psonally I’d hang with Bryson more than any other player on tour. Guy knows how to have fun and squeeze in hard work.
I've never thought about people panicking and running into the flight of the ball. In a crowd, that is much more likely than someone getting hit.
I didnt know this was a thing about Bryson. Honestly, I 100% agree with him. On a course with a hobby golfer, yes, yell fore. At a tournament with a pro and a huge crowd, don't.
I'm gonna go subscribe to that channel, now. He used to aggravate me, so I want to see if it was media hype.
Agreed. Didn't think about this aspect of it either.
You actually believe this? Lmfao! Sure, look at all the spectator stampedes when a golfer yells fore
From what I've seen the Marshall's are supposed to be communicating that information. If you are playing a the muni, then yeah you are responsible for the fore.
His response is a tad misleading. Unless he’s missing his target at every tee box, he wouldn’t be yelling fore “every time.”
Ah stop it's complete horse shit. I like Bryson but that excuse is nonsense. Not shouting cause he genuinely doesn't think it'll reach is ok. I'll give him that. We've all done it but saying it's into the wind or he doesn't want them running into it...not buying it. From 300+ yards he cannot tell what someone can or cannot hear so he has a duty of care to make an effort to warn them. He doesn't. If someone does shout fore people do not scatter like you've thrown a grenade into a flock of birds, they duck and cover their head so that doesn't hold up either. He knows he's in the wrong and he's using these sort of wishy-washy excuses to justify his own wrong doing
The thing that never gets mentioned is that there are spotters on the tee box letting the spotters on the fairways know of the ball flight. Maybe they should have a panic “FORE” signal that the spotters can relay to the spectators?????????
he seems so much more likable than when you just see small clips of him
Its simple he clears over everything ! 🤣
Loved the fore and subscribe 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cheers haha
Brilliant podcast 👍 think Bryson will of made a few more fans
There is already a solution to not yelling fore. If your ball hits someone, just give them some signed merchandise. That's why professional golfers should always carry a sharpie.
Brooks koepka burst a women's eye with a drive at the Ryder cup. There's no excuse around it. You should always always always shout fore if there's any chance that a ball might hit someone.
im sure you know more about it than the pros
@@joey_dice4508 no need being a dick mate, he's right. It costs you nothing to shout fore if there's a chance it may hit someone. Now , I get pros not shouting it, everybody there is watching them and they're better than us so it usually goes where they want it.
Well done for asking. Good explanation by BdC but he did seem a bit guilty but totally get his point. Also well done for saying he does carry himself well in regard to etiquette etc as he does.
I used to not like Bryson but I decided to follow him at the Open on the Sunday this year. He could not have been more respectful to us fans out on the course and was even cracking jokes when deciding what club to hit off the tee. He’d get his 3 wood out and people would boo, so he’d go back and whip the driver out to big cheers.
In terms of calling fore, he went a bit wayward on a few holes and when it was clear he might endanger someone, he called fore but one thing I didn’t realise is just how far he hits it and how up and down a lot of those courses are, it’s often impossible to tell if people are there. I guess the argument is “he should call fore if he doesn’t know for sure” but how many times have you been playing with your mates and not called coz you don’t think anyone is there but u get down to your hall and some angry men is shouting at you. We all have made that mistake, he’s not doing it because he doesn’t care, I’m certain of that
Just my take
Yes, so yell fore just in case. Not hard.
@@kanepillers8981 Why would you call fore if you don’t think there’s any reason to?
@@chalesbergca3754 So I can have a good yell to deal with the frustration of hitting a wayward tee shot.
Just watching the Farmers Open,and Bryson shouted fore after a wayward drive, maybe you have changed him😳🤣🤣
During today's Farmer's Insurance Open (2nd round), he shouted "fore right" on the 12th hole approach shot.
I guess I can understand him thinking that it wasn’t gonna get there, but not the “they won’t be able to hear me yell fore” excuse. Ever heard of pointing?
There you go again 👍🏾⛳️❤️💕
I thought you bottled this a tiny bit Rick, woould have been good to see you hammer it home! Fair play tho for pushing him. Did well to land the setting examples point. He is definitely shouting fore way more at the Farmers!
Half the time other golf groups don't even respond when I yell fore
"I could yell fore everytime" dude, you know if you hit the ball offline.
This was like 'Who's on first?"
Fair play!! Good from Bryson
you just earnt a subscriber!
A group of students on the 7th tee, at the par 3 course I work on, teeing off. One lad hit a hook and the ball was heading at the 8th tee which had two players on it and in the loudest voice he shouted:- "HEADS UP". I pointed out to him that he was not playing football and the call should have been, Fore left. His friends and the two guys on the 8th just laughed.
people gotta remember that the golf ball is moving at about 20% the speed of sound. Most of us probably realized that sound had a maximum speed because of golf; seeing somebody hit a drive on a hole 200-300 yards away, hearing the crack of the ball a good second after seeing the ball leave the tee.
B seems like a super cool dude.
Bryson almost hit me at the Open last year. I stood far away from the fairway and the rest of the crowd to avoid that exact situation.
Remember when mr lu hit that lady in the forehead at the British open. 🤣🤣🤣. I never saw an update over the years. People should watch for golf balls when at a golf course.
i love when a youtube video title isn't actually clickbait!
Funny you called him out, he did yell FORE twice today in is 1st round at Torrey Pine
So true in relation to etiquette influencing amateurs. One more for lots of the players is running or climbing up the face of bunkers. PGA should really advise against forming bad habits in viewers- if Speith goes up the face of a bunker, why would a beginner assume this isn't etiquette?
They pay the caddy to tell fore
I actually agree with this notion
although this was A highlight - the entire interview was solid
Bryson just shouted fore at Torrey Pines so maybe Ricks question has helped.😀
I do think there are instances in which people aren’t going to hear you regardless of how loud you say it, but saying it isn’t going to cause people to run around in a panic, it will allow them time to cover their heads and turn away from the shot. Bryson gets a bad wrap, and like he said they feel awful when it happens, but it doesn’t hurt to say it, no one is above courtesy.
@Rick, great interview with Bryson, but I am still wondering about his answer to this. check out his drive on hole 7 at Torrey Pines today (Day 2). Landed right on the cart path just between a few people. Maybe he thought it was going to carry everyone, but not a word or a hand signal. He needs to do better IMO.
he cant remember everytime. he literally asked for more specefic incidents, and that he would own up to it if he messed up.
like he said, by the time you shout and point, it’s almost always too late. a lot of people have been hit regardless of the golfer shouting “fore”
Can you please add subtitles for yours podcast videos because I think a lot of people don't understand everything including me too?
Fore and subscribe. Genius
Into the wind and 400 yards away. If you are scared of getting hit dont go !
no one builds muscle that fast like he did without help
I know right, it's a. Lost like he has all the money in the world to throw at nutritional education, personal trainers and the world's best gym equipment.
This was a great interview Rick . Here is a idea to keep lazy spectators safe . You already have marshals down farways . Have a Marshal behind tee block and if a drive looks like it is a stray he then radios down fairway to the other marshal so they can call Fore . Not to hard to set up .
Thank you!
In theory that’s a good idea. We’re then relying on the Marshalls being on the ball (not literally) but you get what I mean?
I have marshaled on the 18th hole at the Tour Championship for years as well as other PGA events. What we do on the par 5 18th is that the marshal on the tee box has a yellow flag(like every other tournament) and he raises it, then points to where he sees the ball going. It’s a little tricky on that hole because it is a dog leg left and the marshals on the left side landing area cannot see the tee box due to trees so we rely on the marshals on the right side of the fairway to yell “LEFT!” so we can warn the fans on the left side. It would be nice to have radios and earpieces, but the flag system seems adequate. You are still relying on the one set of eyes at the tee box to warn the downfield marshals. I think it is more of golf etiquette for Bryson to yell “Fore."
have a second caddy, 300 yards down the fairway to watch the shot and yell if needed. all having a guy on radio behind the tee box will do is let the marshals know where to look for the injury.
really, if they can't hear the driver, they're not going to be able to hear a yell.
@@andrewcropper163 Well if the spectators who stand in a landing zone down the fairway are not paying attention when a player is on the tee they deserve to get hit
I like Bryson, He is
Golf media and social media can make stories out of nothing. I think people get the wrong impression of Bryson I love watching him play
There are also workers there pointing where the ball is going as part of their responsibilities, just saying 😁. Great interview
There is no excuse for not shouting fore. No one can talk out of that. If there is a 0.00000001% chance of hitting someone get over yourselfe and shout!!! Even if it means your shouting 18 oder 30 times a round
@JedStrogan absolutly wrong! I like him a Lot. That doesnt mean that i cant criticize things about him, and my critic isnt pointed at him only. Most of the Players dont should "fore" and thats an absolut No Go!
If I hear "FORE", I actually look towards the direction I feel the yell came from. That puts me in more danger as I will be face on, lol.
You're supposed to turn your back from the "fore". Haha!!
@@darrylyee409 yeah but it goes to show how habitual it is for normal humans to react to a Fore. It does take a few to come at you for you to learn to turn away and get ready for tree ricochet.
@@darrylyee409 You don't get to see it hit one of your buddies if ya turn away, lol.
I've been playing golf since last May, my mate has played for a while and was sure to explain course etiquette, being a newer golfer you can imagine I was calling fore quite often initially, one thing I definitely noticed is if I heard fore I'd often fine myself looking that direction and if I shouted it people would look in my direction which I think is an invitation to getting hit in the face but it's a natural instinct so I get what Bryson is saying
Also, when you're out golfing....you're golfing. You're not watching people.
When you're at a tournament, you're watching. It's your job to be aware and be smart. I've been to several and you never turn your back to a tee box. And the sound of a driver will reach you before a fore, so it's never helped me. What I look for is the hand gesture to which side but even then, I'm usually watching so I track the ball.
I'm the opposite - if I hear fore my instinct is to face away and put a hand up to cover the back of my head. I can deal with a broken hand or ribs but yeah losing an eye or nut would suck.
Maybe there needs to be emphasis on what to do when hearing fore instead of just saying it if you hit a shocker.
He can still point the direction if people can not hear him and do it in a way that would alert people to at least cover their heads. I disagree that by saying nothing is good on some instances where it will even potentially get to the crowd.
I agree with his arguments. Most people wouldn’t hear him.
I’m not sure that can ever be an excuse. Also you see people on tv all the time ducking when players have shouted fore. Yes sometimes people don’t hear but that can’t be an excuse to not shout it
If you’re standing 6 feet off the fairway, 300 yards down range, at a PGA Tour event.... you probably deserve to get hit. The “FORE!” is implied.
Well explained, Bryson detailed all possible permutations and gave good clarity. Respect.
Such a cop-out answer. If you “could be shouting fore on every shot”, that’s an issue. If the ball looks like it’s heading toward people, just yell fore and bare minimum point that direction so spectators can at least know to duck and cover. Why are we acting like yelling one word and pointing is some massive amount of effort?!? It’s better to be yell and be wrong then not yell and injure a spectator. Why is that so difficult?!? His first instinct was to deflect and point out that other golfers have hit people; reminds me of his interview where he decided that being called “brooksy” made him different like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. Dude, what?!?
@Matthew Vermeulen that’s why I said bare-minimum point with your driver to the direction it’s headed, since spectators will definitely be looking that direction. And if they really knew their yardages and “if the ball is actually placing spectators in danger” then no one would get hit when fore isn’t called. My whole point is shit happens, and if they were always right about whether their drive could hurt someone or not, this wouldn’t be an issue. We’ve seen plenty of golfers hit a wayward shot, not say fore or even point, and the ball land in the spectators/hit someone. Fans are the reason they get to play for millions and do what they love for a living; they deserve at least a “heads up” when a 200mph projectile is headed their direction.
Here’s what I will say for his excuse of “if I don’t think it’s going to get there, they can’t hear me.” It’s a courtesy to yell because you have shown compassion for possibly hitting someone. Whenever I’m playing, if the ball lands 5 feet from me, shit happens. However, if you didn’t yell fore then I have a problem with you! Also what’s so bad if they cannot hear you? Worried about straining your voice?
that wasnt his only reason. it can do more harm than good, people panic and scatter INTO the ball, and its also a distraction. fair points if you ask me.
Incidents
Its kind of simple, just shout FORE? Regardless of the possibilities of them not hearing potentially?
It would then become the boy who cried wolf, if we always yell fore from Driver, eventually, no one will listen.
@JedStrogan I hold no ill feeling towards anyone let alone Bryson. I would say this for any golfer amateur to professional
He just explained how distracting that would be to other golfers... not to mention no one would react
The reason some guys on Tour don't shout fore because they want a good bounce off the crowd, they want a good lie in the trampled down grass and they don't want to show any weakness to their competitors.
So he comes up with a lame ass excuse like that.
Lol that might have been the most infuriating way to ask a question I would have been confused af too Bryson
@RickShielsgolf why dance around the issue like a shy schoolgirl? Phrase it like “ok Bryson- here’s a chance to speak your side. Explain why you don’t yell fore.”
Also-
1. if you are at a tournament to watch the players play, aren’t you watching arguably the most exciting player in golf on his tee shots?
2. Highlight bias- you can make anyone look any way you want if you dig up enough clips that show them in that light. At a rate of 72 holes a week (assuming cuts made) there is a LOT of material to source your non-fores from. You could make Jack Nicklaus look like a muni hacker if you string together every bad shot from his career, for example.
Bryson seems like a top lad tbh
Just shout fore it’s not rocket science what the spectators do after that is not your problem you would have done your bit by shouting.whenever I’m playing and I hear a shout of fore I just crouch down where I am and protect my head , I don’t start wondering around but that’s just me.
Having said that he is a character 😁
Reminds me of a movie you might have heard of called Happy Gilmore lol. Media/social media is the problem not Bryson
When I play I have heard fore once and have had balls land feet even inches from me.