"Tell me a story, Lamb." "Once there was a demon who made deals with the doomed." "What was given?" "Everything they wanted" "And what was taken?" "Everything they had."
@@lexsamreeth8724what I like is that Fiddlesticks calls them Grey Man. While Fiddle calls other demons by their true name and this could be a similar thing, I like to imagine another reason. Grey Man is when Death was alone. Fiddlesticks screaming Grey Man at them is perhaps the only way it can strike at them. They don’t have any traumatic moments it can quote, but it can remind them of when they were alone. The only thing they fear.
An extra bit of lore on Kindred, I may be getting the minutia a bit off, but the general gist of it is: Lamb understands feelings, but cannot feel them. Wolf can feel emotions, but cannot understand them. Some of their dialogue shows this, as they often converse between each other: Lamb asks Wolf what hunger feels like, as she knows what it is, and understands it, but cannot feel it. Wolf replies stating that hunger is always there and that he doesn't like it, but Wolf doesn't understand why he feels this way.
There's also the theory that Lamb is blind and Wolf is deaf; Lamb asks Wolf what people see them as, and Wolf asks Lamb what people sound like. Along with the feelings and emotions that you mentioned already, it's like when Grey Man split themself in two, the two halves had to share feelings and senses between them, which is a really cool concept 😊
@@cillafawn281 Oh dang, I haven't heard of that interpretation until now, but it makes sense. I'll have to listen more closely to what they say in-game 👍
In general Kindred just has some of the best voice lines and VA of any character in the game imo. There are a lot of stand outs, but the duality of lamb and wolf is captured so perfectly and so many of their lines are so poetic and thought provoking. My personal favorite is "Tomorrow is a hope, never a promise." which I think just encapsulates the champion so well.
Kindred has one of the best lines in League! "- what do all stories have in common, dear wolf? - they end..." " - those who run from death, stood still in life" It's like constant stream of poetry with a dash of existential crisis. I love it
The Lamb: "Never one... Without the other." The Wolf: _"Never one... Without the other"_ Kindred's idea in and on itself is one of my absolute favourites and their music fits them to a T
4:11 Death was lonely, since no living thing wanted it, so it split itself in two to always have a friend. I fucking love that so much! It's so beautiful!
In case nobody knew, and this might be a pure coinsidence by rito, but death, in Islam, later in the after life as we stand before the almighty to be judged, death will appear in the form that god intented it for him, which is a lamb / sheep to be slaughtered and there will be no more death.
I recommend looking at Kindred’s voicelines in your spare time (or perhaps a separate reaction video). Their voicelines are something else…and paired with the music. Its unique in every way 👌
My interpretation has always been that Lamb is the Cello and Wolf the Piano. The reason for this being that Lamb's voicelines in game are all very sombre, I remember reading and listening somewhere that her walk animation is more like a funural march. Wolf's voicelines on the otherhand are more playful, sometimes even innocent but the given to wild frezy when he senses prey nearby.
I lack musical education to back this up but this does seem sort of a running theme with the two, what is expected of one is somewhat embodied by the other. Also the piano has an energetic phase I tie to the excitement of wolf's hunt. But it's only the music thats energetic, it doesn't instill that in the listener because only wolf is excited. Lamb is instead deliberate and uncompromising like the Cello.
I've always thought the opposite. The piano is light and ethereal, like Lamb, and the cello provides a bit of a darker and melancholic sound, akin to Wolf.
@@bloodknyte I think that's my favourite part about the instrumentation; depending on how you look at it, either instrument could be either figure for different reasons. The grace of Lamb, or the Playfulness of wolf in the piano. The sombreness of Lamb and the predatory nature of Wolf in the cello. Another allusion to how they used to be one being. I personally prefer the interpretation of Wolf as the Piano and Lamb as the cello due to the subversion of expectations, but I think there is still validity to both interpretations.
@@northernowlmusic9825 Let's go even further than this: Both instruments not only apply, but resemble either of the two spirits: Wolfs dark, frenzied looming shadow as the chello and lambs athletic, innocent looks and swift movements as the piano. The playful, curious and impatient nature of wolf as the piano opposed to Lamb's more ernest and realistic mind. All interpretations are true, because they all apply to Kindred. Never looked at it that way, thank you for opening my eyes fellas!
Omg I interpret it the other way around 😂 Lamb the piano and Wolf the cello... The scene is they're hunting someone and Lamp prances around like the lilting melody of the piano and Wolf stalks like the slow and menacing pace of the cello 👀
Most people commonly consider Jhin to be League’s best overall designed champion, but for me personally it will always be Kindred ❤. Unfortunately I’m terrible at playing them 😅.
Well designed being the game play. His aesthetic is amazing as well but his design really helps balance jhin in game. Kindred is my favorite design for both.
same dude, lore wise they hit me right in the feels and their voicelines make me want to cry out of pure emotion, i dont really know how to play them correctly tho
Ive started like you but i continously played kindred you have to play her with no pressure at all and at the same time good at timing for marks and roaming as well.
Kindred is one of my favorite characters lore-wise in League. One of their stories, "A Good Death" is easily one of my favorite stories, only second to "The Bird and the Branch," which was released for Taliyah. Everything about them, their music, dialogue, everything catches such a perfect, mystical, mythological vibe that personifies death in a way I've never seen before. And when you have to write a version of death in a world where gods walk the earth, and immortal beings exist in practicality, you really have to give off the feeling that Kindred is something that cannot be stopped, and that they are inevitable. Symbolism is a thing that is so closely tied to death, and the designers at Riot do it so well with Kindred.
Kindred is kind of similar to different depictions of death in various cultures. For example there is Hel in norse mythology who also represents two sides of the same coin
When i read ,,A Good Death", i dont know why, but i decided to listen to their theme while i do it, and i only noticed it came out before i went to sleep. So there was i, minimum light settings phone in hand, laying in a bed in a completelly dark room, listening to this masterpiece of a music, reading this stroy. It was maybe the best experience of my life. I had shiwers running down my spine the whole time
Another thing I liked about “A Good Death” was that, when the main character first encountered Kindred, they weren’t coming for her, but instead she found them. It’s like a close call to death, as she was the only survivor of an incident that killed everyone else. If a person is not at their time, Kindred won’t come for them, as such with the main character of the story. It wasn’t her time, so they let her go, despite Wolf’s want to chase her. When it was finally her time, they arrived and took her life with Lamb’s Arrow, the woman accepting her death.
@@MarcoMeatball I actually had the same thought when watching this vid specifically. That I'd love to see you go back and relisten and see if you see any way the lore is coming out that you didn't catch. Idk if it's needed for every vid, some of the ones where you knocked it out of the park on your first listen obv don't need them. That's the only thing I could even think to add to these vids. Keep up the great work man, big fan of the series.
I love Kindred's voice lines and theme so much, here are some of my favourite quotes "Those who run from death, stood still in life" "Beauty fades, and that is why it is beautiful" Lamb: "Never one... without the other" Wolf: _"Never one... without the other"_ Lamb: "He took an axe, and split himself in two, right down the middle" Wolf: _"So he would always have a friend?"_ Lamb: "So he would always have a friend" Wolf: _"Is this what it's like to end?"_ Lamb: "I do not know, for this is not our end" Wolf: _"Do others come back?"_ Lamb: "Those who do, wish they hadn't"
Something that only hit me during this listen, each instrument carries a part of each character. Not only is the duality of their sound fitting but neither is solely tied to a single character. The cello is somber and ominous, the piano is light and energetic. Which line up perfectly with the two sides of The Kindred. The Lamb represents a peaceful death, dancing through the dark to give those who accept rest their final peace, their hearts light. The Wolf represents violent death, his ominous presence felt in every battle, frenzied energy fueling them through their last grueling moments.
You should totally check nunu and willumps's theme, it always hits me right in the feels that one also has a version with singing which sounds like it's taken straight up from a Disney movie
Kindred is also one of the most powerful champs (lore wise) in that universe. For as long as there is life, there will be Kindred. Kindred will always be there, waiting. When the universe ends, there will only be Kindred and Fiddlesticks, until even death itself succumbs to their fear: being alone, being the Pale Man
i highly doubt they fear being alone; wolf once asked lamb what would happen if there was nothing more to hunt, then saying he would probably hunt her too.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 yep it was. Kindred now in lore is just one of many different "spirits of death" in runeterra. We actually know of some others through Legends of Runeterra like "the masked mother" and "the etherfiend" and all of them would indeed die or rather cease to exist if people stop believing. And also in old lore kindred would have been considered the strongest champion of all of them. Also stronger then mordekaiser which always bothered me considering he literrally conquered death itself which automatically makes him stronger than kindred. And beeings like Asol, Bard, soraka, mordekaiser, aatrox or fiddle are far beyond kindred in terms if Power. She is probably closer to the lesser demons like nocturne, Evelynn tahm kench etc. who are not part of the big ten like fiddle. And sorry for the late reply but i go back to these Videos once in a while and just came across this little discussion and couldnt help it xD
Not a lot of ppl know, but Kindred are not the only spirit of death, they are just the most well known and because of that, the strongest. Targon for example has a different spirit of death. Also, the Spirit Blossom Skin for Kindred is what the Ionian people envision Kindred to look like.
This theme is just absolutely beautiful; I've always thought of it as a melodic counterpoint to Pyke's theme, as he represents the stagnation of undeath and the persistent clawing need for revenge before peace can be found. Kindred is deep cello and soothing (if melancholic) piano, while Pyke is all jagged violins and wailing peaks of sound. In any event, another insightful piece of analysis, good sir. Hope you had a nice weekend!
Aah I love your Genshin and League videos! >~< For me, that part where the music gets „messy“ at 2:36, it feels like that‘s the moment when Wolf hunts someone who flees and gets to him instantly and promptly Wolf tears him apart! I love that part
Kindred is the best concept of death i've come across in a piece of media never heard the song tbh im impresed. Btw have you consider reacting to a worlds anthem from league? since you're already interested in the franchise.
I love their theme so much, the Cello is there to remind you that death is ever present. The piano is there to show to tell you that there's peace in death if you can accept it that is but wether if people accept it or not the ending will always be the same for even the calm piano turns somber towards the end.
Notice how in the beginning of their theme, when the piano plays swiftly down at 0:11, a lower piano tone follows it. The lighter piano is the lamb and the wolf follows her. Composing a balance and rythm between each other.
This is one of my favorite character designs from Lol. I love that they mention the gray man, and they are made of the two colors that form grey: the white of peace and delicacy and black of grief and severity. Also they carry the mask from one another, like there is beauty in the hunt and ferocity in the calm death. Amazing video Marco, always on point
It is kind of difficult to guess their concept without any lyrics, but the fact that you attributed the two musical instruments being used to each halves of Kindred is impressive still.
I only just stumbled upon this. To hear that someone who knows very little about League but a lot about music genuinely appreciate what I consider one of the best renditions of a grim reaper warms my heart.
This series just gets better and better. I LOVE the look at the additional character content at the end to compare what you’ve said/theorized about a character to who they are and what it is they do. It makes it a real learning experience. Keep it up man :)
Kindred is by far and away my favorite character Riot has ever made. There's just so much thought and detail put into every aspect of them. The idea to use a lamb and a wolf (predator and prey) as the two halves. The duality between their personalities and how they both "know" different aspects of life and death and compliment each other. How their theme is I'm pretty sure the shortest champion theme out of them all. but packs so much character and depth into, emphasized even more by their lore. AND the sheer fact that in their lore and other short stories they even took the time to include how other in universe cultures have different interpretations and reverences toward death much how real life cultures do. And lastly I don't know if you caught it, but in their short champ trailer, the story mentions a pale lonely man who split himself in two, implying even the "original" death, grim reaper whatever, grew lonely and created kindred. Sorry for the ramble, Its just so interesting to me how much thought and layering went into just 1 single character.
You should listen to Diana's theme. Often overlooked, and often forgotten because of how long its been since her release. But its absolutely gorgeous and chilling.
Glad you've touched on kindred, I highly recommend you watch "The Lamb and the Wolf - Kindred voices" arrangement by "Just Another Nobody" another TH-camr. It really gives you a great sense of the character and the voices are amazingly done. It's not even an official piece of work and yet it's garnered more views than the official media. Perhaps take a look at the short story A Good death, I think is perhaps some of the best pieces of lore league has to offer.
The grim reaper of the league universe is such a nice champ and the theme is so great too. Also their quotes are just amazing since they always talk between just the two of them like it is a story they are trying to understand better.
I will forever love these two. Even years after having stopped playing League I keep coming back to them. Their login screen, their lore stories, their quotes, their skins, I just soak all of it up every once in a while.
if you struggle with jungle, try lane kindred. adc and mid are both strong options and are usually easier for people to get into. unlike traditional adcs in the jungle kindred needs to be a rank or two above with positioning and confidence. people camp marks so you always need a friend or good teammate to rotate
Grey man is entropy itself, true death essentially, as if you combine both versions of death you get entropy, at least to me that's the most logical thing. This why they are so afraid of him and why the grey man is so lonely, because if they ever combined back into him they would disappear from reality itself, no longer existing. Truly dead, with no difference in how they died in the fullest sense of the phrase. Whereas the grey man would return but continue to be lonely as he is the very nothingness true death would cause, i.e. the combination of wolf and lamb
i just discovered your channel, so i'm a bit late, but i love this series. For me as a lore enjoyer, this game has 2 genius champions: Kindred and Jhin, the storywriting for these characters is unmatched, not just in league but in all fiction, i put them on par with Arthas from WoW, who for me is the best written fictional character. (your reaction of Invincible is how i found you) Great content, definitely subbed, it is hard to guess just for the music alone what the character is and it is impressive how accurate your assumptions are despite this!
to me this sounds like the cello stands for the wolf dramatic and powerfull while the piano stands for the lamb delicate and full of hope supporting eachother perfectly especially the part 2:37 sounds like they are hunting chasing swirling arround eachother its crazy what music can do goddamn
I love your videos! They are great entertainment and make great company (mostly talking about your streams here). If you want some singing in a LOL song, I recommend Aphelios' theme! It's way more 'modern' and his story is very interesting! Thanks for being on youtube (:
Kindred is the very first Ost that made me understand how a song can tell a story without using any words and I start to appreciate videogames music much much more.
One thing I have noticed, is the first set (IDK what you'd call it) it starts with the calm consistent piano melody, sort of representing the every days of living life and the idea of life being beautiful. Hence Lamb's line in game "Beauty fades, that is why it is beautiful." The strings kick in, signifying death looming on life's horizon. The piano kicks up, the strings start to overpower it, as if they are in a chase, a Hunt. Then eventually the keys softly and suddenly stop. Lamb's hunt has ended swiftly and suddenly. The 2nd set starts, but its MUCH more frantic, hectic, animalistic. It's comes to a struggle, before, as with the end of the first, the keys end, and the strings remain. Wolf's Chase ending with a struggle. The keys represent life, and the strings death. The notes played by the keys are short and light. The strings are looming and heavy. AMAZING piece, amazing imagery, and my favorite champ.
i had to come back and watch this again since this is my favorite character from the game from lore and design alone. gameplay? a different discussion entirely. despite what you said in the video, you actually were spot on. you got their whole relationship dynamic down just from the two instruments alone and i can totally understand why you love this one a lot, as i do myself. the concept of death itself being written and designed as characters is really cool to me in how such an existential concept is interpreted by artists and writers
As a fan of both league and honkai universe I can say finding your channel was like striking gold. Waiting for your because of you ( song name is "true") interpretation for honkai. Keep up the good work
I love how you've become known as the guy who guesses character traits based on their music lol seriously though, i love how you go into the song's story, instead of the purely technical aspects (like some other music react channels i watch. they are good, just different). keep up the great content marco! always look forward to more content from you! (specially honkai lol)
Little lore precision kindred aren’t THE embodiment of death there AN embodiment of death, different cultures on runterra have different interpretations kindred is the most well known and thus the more powerful, the fact that people believe in them gives them strength, and when they are forgotten, well, the grim reapers have their own grim reaper.
hey hey! cool to see you analize kindreds music. they are the most compelling and interesting character in the whole LoL for me. every single one of their voicelines brings chills to my spine. great video as always, have a good one Marco! ❤
My top 3 league of legends songs are Tidecalled (Nami's theme) Jhin's theme And Kindred's theme which is by far my favorite musical piece of the three.
Watching these videos is so entertaining, the fact you’re able to figure out who a champion is on the same level as an experienced player is insane, and I never get tired of it.
Been waiting for this reaction for a while now 😆 Kindred is probably my favourite character from _any_ piece of media, and I'm so glad you like their theme as much as you do! ☺
As you listen to the whole piece in it's entirety you'll notice that halfway through the two instruments switch. The piano being the melody in the beginning supported by the cello switches to accompany the cello that makes it's dark debut in the latter half. It paints a wonderful picture of the two's hunt in your mind as you listen a second time.
Kindred is probably one of my favorite champion concepts, both lore and gameplaywise. And as a jungler, it was one of my main's and I loved playing them. I havent played league for a few years though, but I sstill like to watch these videos.
kindred is considered the strongest champion in the whole league of legends universe because everyone will meet their end eventually no one escapes death
Nah, they are not. Not anymore. After LoR expansion They are reviled as casual Runeterrian spirits, they won't be able to take souls of beings like Celestials. Also in Runeterra known even not one spirits of death, but several, but they are weaker, because in Kindred believes more people's
@@wannie12345 for sure. And how exactly they will kill Asol or any other Celestial? Will they grow wings and fly into space? Or maybe will buy a rocket? Any other ideas?
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. thats not making them any weaker, we're talking a bout death here, and yes aurelion sol will meet his end too kindred will forever be alive waiting, the last people said to stay alive is kindred and when its only them they will kill eachother
@@Eviekaii kindred not death lmao. Read wiki or smth idk Like why are you pretending like you great lore master if you know nothing??? 1-2 years ago we learned that they are not global reapers, they even not in all Runeterra have powers and you talking about Celestials Dragon? Learn more please
Luckily I got this video randomly recommended by youtube and I don't really know what to say other than I'm really impressed you're able to get so much information from then music o.O.
Oh I am going to fist-fight TH-cam, because I NEVER got a single notification about this video despite it being one of the few that I was looking forward to the most!! But I'm absolutely delighted that you got the opportunity to give their theme a listen and an analysis, and I'm VERY happy that it's your favorite this far! I think their theme song, at least for me, stands out that much more because of how relatively simple it is. It's just a piano and a cello, but it's SO effective. I'm a sucker for cello especially, which I consider easily one of the warmest "voices" in music, it's so deep and lovely and melancholy. Also really happy that you also got to look them up and dig deeper into their lore as Death manifested! Kindred are my absolute favorite of any portrayal of a psychopomp/representation of Death in any fictional medium to date, solely for how unique yet sensible their design is.
I am always happy to see more videos in this series. I really can't recommend any theme, because it doens't matter. I know that the video will be entertaining and it is always great to see someone else enjoying the music I have heard for so many years! c:
This was such a great video! Thank you for covering one of my favorite champions! I think Kindred is designed very well in all aspects as a character- visually, lore wise, and music wise!
I really deeply love Kindred. Lorewise my absolute favorite champ. The aesthetic and everything around them is just... beautiful. And the way you describe them is.... wonderful. Thank you so much for your insight about them!
I already love Kindred as a champ, their concept their art and this music. They're one of my top picks. However you've given me a new appreciation for their music, and the depth it has when related back to their lore.♥
I'm so glad you finally covered this one and that you like it as much as we do. I love how ominous this one is. I'd recommend Ornn's next, his theme's a counter to Volibear's.
Yes, finally! And what a great reaction. It's so good to see someone who really appreciates mastery Now we must see you react to Ornn! And you HAVE to see his teaser aswell, it's too good to sleep on
Lamb understands emotions and pain, but she cannot feel them. She is merciful but cold and distant, never reacting. Wolf feels pain and emotions, but cannot understand them. He is vicious but loud and emotive, always acting.
hey! not sure if you will see this comment because it's so far back of a video . but a new detail I just found is in the 2:45 mark of your video there is a hint at the camavoran theme! this is the theme for the kingdom of camavor, the place viego (the deathless night with the super long sword) is from! I find this really cool because kindred was out way before viego and camavor. But they took a snippet from this song and made it the main melody of camavor. This is VERY intriguing because in this song, that melody plays after the off-beat changes and slight uneasy part of the song and this fits really well since the story of viego is so founded upon distorting death and manipulating it
Please keep doing these. Your analysis makes my enjoyment of the game that much more. I would like to suggest Neeko's theme for future consideration. :)
woooooooooooow kindred. love how you opened up a whole new window of appreciation of riot for me. i knew their music was good, but i never knew how much they thought about the music to FIT the character. Love your content o7.
This piece is so beautiful. You can really hear the both lamb and wolf in it, as well as the hunt. I have yet to hear any other League music that compares.
The only counter note I might offer to what you said, was that I always saw Wolf as the Piano because of the "run" during the song, while Lamb, gentle and calm, is the cello that pulls the "bowstring"
I've attempted this piece on piano. On piano, at the beginning, the left hand kinda "dances" around the right hand (just like the Lamb) because there are times where the left hand crosses over the right. It's just brilliant.
I love this series listening, guessing and reading all at the same time it fascinates me on how by music and a simple piece of an art you can almost to actually explaining who is the character and what are they being describe. I am so happy with every episode of this series you and we learn something new. Hoping to see in the next videos due to their wonderful music is Camille Aurelion S'ol Lisandra Karma Nautilus Senna And Zoe for the next videos
Kindred is one of my favorite psychopomps out there, along with La Dama del Alba from the Spanish play of the same name, Death from Discworld, and the Loving Reaper
This is my favorite thus far. This piece is astounding.
Thank you for listening to this song, i knew you would like it :)
It’s amazing! Please listen to some quotes when you do character like AATROX! It gives succchhhhh depth to their characters! Just as much as the lore
Right? What a banger. They do so much with so little
As a cellist of 20 some odd years now, this is my favorite as well. It's just so good
It truly is one of the best champion themes! They're also amazing as a character duo.
"Tell me a story, Lamb."
"Once there was a demon who made deals with the doomed."
"What was given?"
"Everything they wanted"
"And what was taken?"
"Everything they had."
Tahm kench?
unbench the kench
Imagine an interaction with Fiddlestick
"What does fear feel like, Wolf?"
"Cold fingers around your heart."
@@lexsamreeth8724what I like is that Fiddlesticks calls them Grey Man. While Fiddle calls other demons by their true name and this could be a similar thing, I like to imagine another reason.
Grey Man is when Death was alone. Fiddlesticks screaming Grey Man at them is perhaps the only way it can strike at them. They don’t have any traumatic moments it can quote, but it can remind them of when they were alone. The only thing they fear.
@@kingskelett6265 Never thought of it like that, that is a very interesting take that is probably very true.
An extra bit of lore on Kindred, I may be getting the minutia a bit off, but the general gist of it is:
Lamb understands feelings, but cannot feel them. Wolf can feel emotions, but cannot understand them.
Some of their dialogue shows this, as they often converse between each other:
Lamb asks Wolf what hunger feels like, as she knows what it is, and understands it, but cannot feel it.
Wolf replies stating that hunger is always there and that he doesn't like it, but Wolf doesn't understand why he feels this way.
"Are you there, dear Wolf?"
"I am, little Lamb."
"Are you sad?"
"I am."
"What does it feel like?"
"A long hunt with no kill."
There's also the theory that Lamb is blind and Wolf is deaf; Lamb asks Wolf what people see them as, and Wolf asks Lamb what people sound like. Along with the feelings and emotions that you mentioned already, it's like when Grey Man split themself in two, the two halves had to share feelings and senses between them, which is a really cool concept 😊
@@cillafawn281 Oh dang, I haven't heard of that interpretation until now, but it makes sense. I'll have to listen more closely to what they say in-game 👍
And they're both weirdly into theatre. Two of their short involve it.
In general Kindred just has some of the best voice lines and VA of any character in the game imo. There are a lot of stand outs, but the duality of lamb and wolf is captured so perfectly and so many of their lines are so poetic and thought provoking. My personal favorite is "Tomorrow is a hope, never a promise." which I think just encapsulates the champion so well.
Kindred has one of the best lines in League!
"- what do all stories have in common, dear wolf?
- they end..."
" - those who run from death, stood still in life"
It's like constant stream of poetry with a dash of existential crisis. I love it
They laugh and scream
And dance and flee :D
Tell me a story, lamb.
@@ChemicalBad96 There was once a pale man with dark hair who was very lonely.
@@kochmannn Why was it lonely?
@@MisterW0lfe All things must meet this man, so they shunned him.
The Lamb: "Never one... Without the other."
The Wolf: _"Never one... Without the other"_
Kindred's idea in and on itself is one of my absolute favourites and their music fits them to a T
Perhaps my favourite detail about them is that lamb wears a wolf mask, and wolf a lamb mask. It "yin yang"s really hard and really well.
4:11 Death was lonely, since no living thing wanted it, so it split itself in two to always have a friend. I fucking love that so much! It's so beautiful!
@@datboi04if u do play it, remember to always mute all, the players are toxic
How long will we be together?
Forever more. Never one without the other. Never one without the other
In case nobody knew, and this might be a pure coinsidence by rito, but death, in Islam, later in the after life as we stand before the almighty to be judged, death will appear in the form that god intented it for him, which is a lamb / sheep to be slaughtered and there will be no more death.
Kindred's theme is one of my favorites, now we wait for Ornn
For Ornn, he's gotta start with _The Path to Hearth-Home_ before the actual theme.
He should listen to "Ornn's Teaser" the one with the lady singing in ancient freljordian
please do Ornn next
Teaser Trailer + Login Screen should be the combo for Ornn
I recommend looking at Kindred’s voicelines in your spare time (or perhaps a separate reaction video). Their voicelines are something else…and paired with the music. Its unique in every way 👌
I second this. Kindred's voicelines are great.
Do you have a link to a video where Kindred's voicelines are combined with the music?
@@lilstubbs9553 If you're still looking for it : th-cam.com/video/r_PamAugaf0/w-d-xo.html
Same goes for Jhin O:
My interpretation has always been that Lamb is the Cello and Wolf the Piano. The reason for this being that Lamb's voicelines in game are all very sombre, I remember reading and listening somewhere that her walk animation is more like a funural march. Wolf's voicelines on the otherhand are more playful, sometimes even innocent but the given to wild frezy when he senses prey nearby.
I lack musical education to back this up but this does seem sort of a running theme with the two, what is expected of one is somewhat embodied by the other. Also the piano has an energetic phase I tie to the excitement of wolf's hunt. But it's only the music thats energetic, it doesn't instill that in the listener because only wolf is excited. Lamb is instead deliberate and uncompromising like the Cello.
I've always thought the opposite. The piano is light and ethereal, like Lamb, and the cello provides a bit of a darker and melancholic sound, akin to Wolf.
@@bloodknyte I think that's my favourite part about the instrumentation; depending on how you look at it, either instrument could be either figure for different reasons. The grace of Lamb, or the Playfulness of wolf in the piano. The sombreness of Lamb and the predatory nature of Wolf in the cello. Another allusion to how they used to be one being. I personally prefer the interpretation of Wolf as the Piano and Lamb as the cello due to the subversion of expectations, but I think there is still validity to both interpretations.
@@northernowlmusic9825 Let's go even further than this: Both instruments not only apply, but resemble either of the two spirits: Wolfs dark, frenzied looming shadow as the chello and lambs athletic, innocent looks and swift movements as the piano. The playful, curious and impatient nature of wolf as the piano opposed to Lamb's more ernest and realistic mind. All interpretations are true, because they all apply to Kindred.
Never looked at it that way, thank you for opening my eyes fellas!
Omg I interpret it the other way around 😂 Lamb the piano and Wolf the cello... The scene is they're hunting someone and Lamp prances around like the lilting melody of the piano and Wolf stalks like the slow and menacing pace of the cello 👀
Most people commonly consider Jhin to be League’s best overall designed champion, but for me personally it will always be Kindred ❤. Unfortunately I’m terrible at playing them 😅.
Well designed being the game play. His aesthetic is amazing as well but his design really helps balance jhin in game. Kindred is my favorite design for both.
I'll be honest, that's the first I've literally ever heard someone describe Jhin as best designed in any sense.
kindred is a super weird jungle kit. if you struggle with them jung, try midred, or adc-dred. very fun and more contemporary laning style.
same dude, lore wise they hit me right in the feels and their voicelines make me want to cry out of pure emotion, i dont really know how to play them correctly tho
Ive started like you but i continously played kindred you have to play her with no pressure at all and at the same time good at timing for marks and roaming as well.
Kindred is one of my favorite characters lore-wise in League. One of their stories, "A Good Death" is easily one of my favorite stories, only second to "The Bird and the Branch," which was released for Taliyah. Everything about them, their music, dialogue, everything catches such a perfect, mystical, mythological vibe that personifies death in a way I've never seen before. And when you have to write a version of death in a world where gods walk the earth, and immortal beings exist in practicality, you really have to give off the feeling that Kindred is something that cannot be stopped, and that they are inevitable. Symbolism is a thing that is so closely tied to death, and the designers at Riot do it so well with Kindred.
Kindred is kind of similar to different depictions of death in various cultures. For example there is Hel in norse mythology who also represents two sides of the same coin
When i read ,,A Good Death", i dont know why, but i decided to listen to their theme while i do it, and i only noticed it came out before i went to sleep. So there was i, minimum light settings phone in hand, laying in a bed in a completelly dark room, listening to this masterpiece of a music, reading this stroy. It was maybe the best experience of my life. I had shiwers running down my spine the whole time
Another thing I liked about “A Good Death” was that, when the main character first encountered Kindred, they weren’t coming for her, but instead she found them. It’s like a close call to death, as she was the only survivor of an incident that killed everyone else.
If a person is not at their time, Kindred won’t come for them, as such with the main character of the story. It wasn’t her time, so they let her go, despite Wolf’s want to chase her. When it was finally her time, they arrived and took her life with Lamb’s Arrow, the woman accepting her death.
I like how you read the lore and educate yourself on the topic afterwards for a deeper understanding, with more nuance and retrospection.
Maybe I should go back and relisten
@@MarcoMeatball I actually had the same thought when watching this vid specifically. That I'd love to see you go back and relisten and see if you see any way the lore is coming out that you didn't catch. Idk if it's needed for every vid, some of the ones where you knocked it out of the park on your first listen obv don't need them.
That's the only thing I could even think to add to these vids. Keep up the great work man, big fan of the series.
I love Kindred's voice lines and theme so much, here are some of my favourite quotes
"Those who run from death, stood still in life"
"Beauty fades, and that is why it is beautiful"
Lamb: "Never one... without the other"
Wolf: _"Never one... without the other"_
Lamb: "He took an axe, and split himself in two, right down the middle"
Wolf: _"So he would always have a friend?"_
Lamb: "So he would always have a friend"
Wolf: _"Is this what it's like to end?"_
Lamb: "I do not know, for this is not our end"
Wolf: _"Do others come back?"_
Lamb: "Those who do, wish they hadn't"
Something that only hit me during this listen, each instrument carries a part of each character. Not only is the duality of their sound fitting but neither is solely tied to a single character.
The cello is somber and ominous, the piano is light and energetic. Which line up perfectly with the two sides of The Kindred.
The Lamb represents a peaceful death, dancing through the dark to give those who accept rest their final peace, their hearts light.
The Wolf represents violent death, his ominous presence felt in every battle, frenzied energy fueling them through their last grueling moments.
Exactly!
You should totally check nunu and willumps's theme, it always hits me right in the feels
that one also has a version with singing which sounds like it's taken straight up from a Disney movie
"It's me and you" is so great
Kindred is also one of the most powerful champs (lore wise) in that universe. For as long as there is life, there will be Kindred. Kindred will always be there, waiting. When the universe ends, there will only be Kindred and Fiddlesticks, until even death itself succumbs to their fear: being alone, being the Pale Man
i highly doubt they fear being alone; wolf once asked lamb what would happen if there was nothing more to hunt, then saying he would probably hunt her too.
@@jacknoyan8808 one of the voice lines Fiddlesticks has when it sees Kindred is "Pale man...." which means that that is Kindred's fear
@@afonsoalmada6945 though he also mentions the "true" name of non-mortal champs upon seeing them, this might also be the case here
@@jacknoyan8808 I think that was retconed in LoR. They die when people forget them.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 yep it was. Kindred now in lore is just one of many different "spirits of death" in runeterra. We actually know of some others through Legends of Runeterra like "the masked mother" and "the etherfiend" and all of them would indeed die or rather cease to exist if people stop believing. And also in old lore kindred would have been considered the strongest champion of all of them. Also stronger then mordekaiser which always bothered me considering he literrally conquered death itself which automatically makes him stronger than kindred. And beeings like Asol, Bard, soraka, mordekaiser, aatrox or fiddle are far beyond kindred in terms if Power. She is probably closer to the lesser demons like nocturne, Evelynn tahm kench etc. who are not part of the big ten like fiddle. And sorry for the late reply but i go back to these Videos once in a while and just came across this little discussion and couldnt help it xD
Yeeeeeeesss, I've been waiting for this one! Kindred is one of my most favorite character pairs!
Not a lot of ppl know, but Kindred are not the only spirit of death, they are just the most well known and because of that, the strongest. Targon for example has a different spirit of death. Also, the Spirit Blossom Skin for Kindred is what the Ionian people envision Kindred to look like.
This theme is just absolutely beautiful; I've always thought of it as a melodic counterpoint to Pyke's theme, as he represents the stagnation of undeath and the persistent clawing need for revenge before peace can be found. Kindred is deep cello and soothing (if melancholic) piano, while Pyke is all jagged violins and wailing peaks of sound. In any event, another insightful piece of analysis, good sir. Hope you had a nice weekend!
2:13 "That chello is all about being grounded". He didn't even knew how right he was.
Aah I love your Genshin and League videos! >~<
For me, that part where the music gets „messy“ at 2:36, it feels like that‘s the moment when Wolf hunts someone who flees and gets to him instantly and promptly Wolf tears him apart! I love that part
Kindred is the best concept of death i've come across in a piece of media never heard the song tbh im impresed.
Btw have you consider reacting to a worlds anthem from league? since you're already interested in the franchise.
I wholeheartedly agree
I love their theme so much, the Cello is there to remind you that death is ever present. The piano is there to show to tell you that there's peace in death if you can accept it that is but wether if people accept it or not the ending will always be the same for even the calm piano turns somber towards the end.
It's almost as if the piano is Lamb and the cello is Wolf... as if the composer intended and framed this post Romantic duet this way...
Notice how in the beginning of their theme, when the piano plays swiftly down at 0:11, a lower piano tone follows it. The lighter piano is the lamb and the wolf follows her. Composing a balance and rythm between each other.
This is one of my favorite character designs from Lol. I love that they mention the gray man, and they are made of the two colors that form grey: the white of peace and delicacy and black of grief and severity. Also they carry the mask from one another, like there is beauty in the hunt and ferocity in the calm death. Amazing video Marco, always on point
all thanks to you and your gorgeous thumbail.
It is kind of difficult to guess their concept without any lyrics, but the fact that you attributed the two musical instruments being used to each halves of Kindred is impressive still.
I only just stumbled upon this. To hear that someone who knows very little about League but a lot about music genuinely appreciate what I consider one of the best renditions of a grim reaper warms my heart.
This series just gets better and better. I LOVE the look at the additional character content at the end to compare what you’ve said/theorized about a character to who they are and what it is they do. It makes it a real learning experience. Keep it up man :)
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Kindred is by far and away my favorite character Riot has ever made. There's just so much thought and detail put into every aspect of them. The idea to use a lamb and a wolf (predator and prey) as the two halves. The duality between their personalities and how they both "know" different aspects of life and death and compliment each other. How their theme is I'm pretty sure the shortest champion theme out of them all. but packs so much character and depth into, emphasized even more by their lore. AND the sheer fact that in their lore and other short stories they even took the time to include how other in universe cultures have different interpretations and reverences toward death much how real life cultures do. And lastly I don't know if you caught it, but in their short champ trailer, the story mentions a pale lonely man who split himself in two, implying even the "original" death, grim reaper whatever, grew lonely and created kindred.
Sorry for the ramble, Its just so interesting to me how much thought and layering went into just 1 single character.
You should listen to Diana's theme. Often overlooked, and often forgotten because of how long its been since her release. But its absolutely gorgeous and chilling.
Glad you've touched on kindred, I highly recommend you watch "The Lamb and the Wolf - Kindred voices" arrangement by "Just Another Nobody" another TH-camr. It really gives you a great sense of the character and the voices are amazingly done. It's not even an official piece of work and yet it's garnered more views than the official media.
Perhaps take a look at the short story A Good death, I think is perhaps some of the best pieces of lore league has to offer.
I *love* Just Another Nobodys video. It is phenomenal
The grim reaper of the league universe is such a nice champ and the theme is so great too. Also their quotes are just amazing since they always talk between just the two of them like it is a story they are trying to understand better.
I will forever love these two. Even years after having stopped playing League I keep coming back to them. Their login screen, their lore stories, their quotes, their skins, I just soak all of it up every once in a while.
Please do Camille next, her theme, design, and lore are really great. Kayle and Morgana's are amazing too, simply divine
I love this series and your depth of understanding the music. I don't think I could know so much just from music alone, I hope you'll keep doing these
Oh I've been so excited for you to get to this one
Kindred's music theme and voice lines always make me tear up a little. So beautiful and sad at the same time, like the death itself.
I HAVE BEEN EXPECTING ANND WAITING PATIENTLY FOR THIS
Kindred is my favorite character that I'm extremely unskilled with! Thanks for the video ☺️
if you struggle with jungle, try lane kindred. adc and mid are both strong options and are usually easier for people to get into. unlike traditional adcs in the jungle kindred needs to be a rank or two above with positioning and confidence. people camp marks so you always need a friend or good teammate to rotate
My favorite Character, design, voice acting, and ost that was worth waiting for it, thx !
Grey man is entropy itself, true death essentially, as if you combine both versions of death you get entropy, at least to me that's the most logical thing. This why they are so afraid of him and why the grey man is so lonely, because if they ever combined back into him they would disappear from reality itself, no longer existing. Truly dead, with no difference in how they died in the fullest sense of the phrase. Whereas the grey man would return but continue to be lonely as he is the very nothingness true death would cause, i.e. the combination of wolf and lamb
i just discovered your channel, so i'm a bit late, but i love this series. For me as a lore enjoyer, this game has 2 genius champions: Kindred and Jhin, the storywriting for these characters is unmatched, not just in league but in all fiction, i put them on par with Arthas from WoW, who for me is the best written fictional character. (your reaction of Invincible is how i found you) Great content, definitely subbed, it is hard to guess just for the music alone what the character is and it is impressive how accurate your assumptions are despite this!
Appreciate you!
"these two seem to need each other"
So he would always have a friend?
So he would always have a friend.
to me this sounds like the cello stands for the wolf dramatic and powerfull while the piano stands for the lamb delicate and full of hope supporting eachother perfectly
especially the part 2:37 sounds like they are hunting chasing swirling arround eachother
its crazy what music can do goddamn
well the splash art gives it away completely, so it's not hard to guess lol
I love your videos! They are great entertainment and make great company (mostly talking about your streams here). If you want some singing in a LOL song, I recommend Aphelios' theme! It's way more 'modern' and his story is very interesting! Thanks for being on youtube (:
Kindred is the very first Ost that made me understand how a song can tell a story without using any words and I start to appreciate videogames music much much more.
One thing I have noticed, is the first set (IDK what you'd call it) it starts with the calm consistent piano melody, sort of representing the every days of living life and the idea of life being beautiful. Hence Lamb's line in game "Beauty fades, that is why it is beautiful." The strings kick in, signifying death looming on life's horizon. The piano kicks up, the strings start to overpower it, as if they are in a chase, a Hunt. Then eventually the keys softly and suddenly stop. Lamb's hunt has ended swiftly and suddenly. The 2nd set starts, but its MUCH more frantic, hectic, animalistic. It's comes to a struggle, before, as with the end of the first, the keys end, and the strings remain. Wolf's Chase ending with a struggle. The keys represent life, and the strings death. The notes played by the keys are short and light. The strings are looming and heavy. AMAZING piece, amazing imagery, and my favorite champ.
Ahhhh yesss! I've low-key been waiting for you to react to Kindred's theme!! I'm in love with the piano arrangement.
i had to come back and watch this again since this is my favorite character from the game from lore and design alone. gameplay? a different discussion entirely. despite what you said in the video, you actually were spot on. you got their whole relationship dynamic down just from the two instruments alone and i can totally understand why you love this one a lot, as i do myself. the concept of death itself being written and designed as characters is really cool to me in how such an existential concept is interpreted by artists and writers
As a fan of both league and honkai universe I can say finding your channel was like striking gold.
Waiting for your because of you ( song name is "true") interpretation for honkai. Keep up the good work
Thank you and that’s already on the channel!
I love how you've become known as the guy who guesses character traits based on their music lol
seriously though, i love how you go into the song's story, instead of the purely technical aspects (like some other music react channels i watch. they are good, just different). keep up the great content marco! always look forward to more content from you! (specially honkai lol)
I've been spending this Saturday mostly binging these videos. All I can say is great job!
Little lore precision kindred aren’t THE embodiment of death there AN embodiment of death, different cultures on runterra have different interpretations kindred is the most well known and thus the more powerful, the fact that people believe in them gives them strength, and when they are forgotten, well, the grim reapers have their own grim reaper.
hey hey! cool to see you analize kindreds music. they are the most compelling and interesting character in the whole LoL for me. every single one of their voicelines brings chills to my spine. great video as always, have a good one Marco! ❤
Omg I waited for this!
I absolutely love this series. when I saw that you listened to kindred, the excitement I had was indescribable! Keep up the amazing work you do
Great reaction as always! Would love to see you react to Urgot's theme!
My top 3 league of legends songs are
Tidecalled (Nami's theme)
Jhin's theme
And Kindred's theme which is by far my favorite musical piece of the three.
It's my favorite series too =) keep going dude!
Watching these videos is so entertaining, the fact you’re able to figure out who a champion is on the same level as an experienced player is insane, and I never get tired of it.
Been waiting for this reaction for a while now 😆 Kindred is probably my favourite character from _any_ piece of media, and I'm so glad you like their theme as much as you do! ☺
As you listen to the whole piece in it's entirety you'll notice that halfway through the two instruments switch. The piano being the melody in the beginning supported by the cello switches to accompany the cello that makes it's dark debut in the latter half. It paints a wonderful picture of the two's hunt in your mind as you listen a second time.
ooh how I have waited. Finally kindred!
I think you really should continue this series. Even when it comes to music from other games and sources.
Kindred is probably one of my favorite champion concepts, both lore and gameplaywise.
And as a jungler, it was one of my main's and I loved playing them. I havent played league for a few years though, but I sstill like to watch these videos.
kindred is considered the strongest champion in the whole league of legends universe because everyone will meet their end eventually no one escapes death
Nah, they are not. Not anymore. After LoR expansion They are reviled as casual Runeterrian spirits, they won't be able to take souls of beings like Celestials. Also in Runeterra known even not one spirits of death, but several, but they are weaker, because in Kindred believes more people's
@@wannie12345 for sure. And how exactly they will kill Asol or any other Celestial? Will they grow wings and fly into space? Or maybe will buy a rocket? Any other ideas?
@@Aaniel_al.Meara. thats not making them any weaker, we're talking a bout death here, and yes aurelion sol will meet his end too kindred will forever be alive waiting, the last people said to stay alive is kindred and when its only them they will kill eachother
@@Eviekaii kindred not death lmao. Read wiki or smth idk
Like why are you pretending like you great lore master if you know nothing??? 1-2 years ago we learned that they are not global reapers, they even not in all Runeterra have powers and you talking about Celestials Dragon? Learn more please
@@wannie12345 ye ye ye for sure, i already understand that you know nothing, dw
Luckily I got this video randomly recommended by youtube and I don't really know what to say other than I'm really impressed you're able to get so much information from then music o.O.
:) thanks!!
Oh I am going to fist-fight TH-cam, because I NEVER got a single notification about this video despite it being one of the few that I was looking forward to the most!! But I'm absolutely delighted that you got the opportunity to give their theme a listen and an analysis, and I'm VERY happy that it's your favorite this far! I think their theme song, at least for me, stands out that much more because of how relatively simple it is. It's just a piano and a cello, but it's SO effective. I'm a sucker for cello especially, which I consider easily one of the warmest "voices" in music, it's so deep and lovely and melancholy.
Also really happy that you also got to look them up and dig deeper into their lore as Death manifested! Kindred are my absolute favorite of any portrayal of a psychopomp/representation of Death in any fictional medium to date, solely for how unique yet sensible their design is.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😂
I am always happy to see more videos in this series. I really can't recommend any theme, because it doens't matter. I know that the video will be entertaining and it is always great to see someone else enjoying the music I have heard for so many years! c:
I love the story of kindred so much, it feels so emotional. It's my favorite league lore I love to tell when I'm talking about them
I waited for it so long 😋🎊
This was such a great video! Thank you for covering one of my favorite champions! I think Kindred is designed very well in all aspects as a character- visually, lore wise, and music wise!
I really deeply love Kindred. Lorewise my absolute favorite champ. The aesthetic and everything around them is just... beautiful. And the way you describe them is.... wonderful. Thank you so much for your insight about them!
I already love Kindred as a champ, their concept their art and this music. They're one of my top picks. However you've given me a new appreciation for their music, and the depth it has when related back to their lore.♥
I'm so glad you finally covered this one and that you like it as much as we do. I love how ominous this one is. I'd recommend Ornn's next, his theme's a counter to Volibear's.
Yes, finally! And what a great reaction. It's so good to see someone who really appreciates mastery
Now we must see you react to Ornn! And you HAVE to see his teaser aswell, it's too good to sleep on
Lamb understands emotions and pain, but she cannot feel them. She is merciful but cold and distant, never reacting.
Wolf feels pain and emotions, but cannot understand them. He is vicious but loud and emotive, always acting.
The Slow Cello in the middle might be The Lamb aiming for her target while the aggressive Piano is The Wolf that chases down the target
hey! not sure if you will see this comment because it's so far back of a video . but a new detail I just found is in the 2:45 mark of your video there is a hint at the camavoran theme! this is the theme for the kingdom of camavor, the place viego (the deathless night with the super long sword) is from! I find this really cool because kindred was out way before viego and camavor. But they took a snippet from this song and made it the main melody of camavor. This is VERY intriguing because in this song, that melody plays after the off-beat changes and slight uneasy part of the song and this fits really well since the story of viego is so founded upon distorting death and manipulating it
Been waiting for this one, great video Marco !
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Oh this is a cool concept. Please do more. I think Riot does a great job with the story telling and lore.
Totally check out the short story that came out. Its so amazingly well written and such a good normal person's perspective to Kindred.
Please keep doing these. Your analysis makes my enjoyment of the game that much more. I would like to suggest Neeko's theme for future consideration. :)
2:35
this bit makes me think it is a dance with death with how it picks up and "skips" along with you.
woooooooooooow kindred. love how you opened up a whole new window of appreciation of riot for me.
i knew their music was good, but i never knew how much they thought about the music to FIT the character.
Love your content o7.
you're welcome! Im glad too!
Lore-wise, Kindred's one of my absolute favorites. I love them as a form of mythology, and a grim reaper concept.
This piece is so beautiful. You can really hear the both lamb and wolf in it, as well as the hunt. I have yet to hear any other League music that compares.
The only counter note I might offer to what you said, was that I always saw Wolf as the Piano because of the "run" during the song, while Lamb, gentle and calm, is the cello that pulls the "bowstring"
My god your analysis is amazing. The duet really captures the beautiful relationship of these 2 characters
Thank you so much 🥰
I've attempted this piece on piano. On piano, at the beginning, the left hand kinda "dances" around the right hand (just like the Lamb) because there are times where the left hand crosses over the right. It's just brilliant.
ah, my favorite champion, i love the concept and the design of kindred! i was sure you liked it too :D
Easily the best original concept Riot has ever come up with.
You seem like a really good positive and understanding man living in feelings, i feel glad i found you.
Thank you very much. 🥹
I love this series listening, guessing and reading all at the same time it fascinates me on how by music and a simple piece of an art you can almost to actually explaining who is the character and what are they being describe. I am so happy with every episode of this series you and we learn something new.
Hoping to see in the next videos due to their wonderful music is
Camille
Aurelion S'ol
Lisandra
Karma
Nautilus
Senna
And
Zoe for the next videos
I subscribed you because it is realy a good idea guessing who champions are by listen their theme music. I waiting for more in future
Kindred is one of my favorite psychopomps out there, along with La Dama del Alba from the Spanish play of the same name, Death from Discworld, and the Loving Reaper
I also love how the piece is in D minor - a traditional death key (think of Mozart's Requiem and the Commendatore scene from Don Giovanni)
the music is sooooooo amazing. if you listen with your eyes close, it feels like you're being chase by something
"Tomorrow is a hope; never a promise." - The Kindred