I have a 90 F250 that I replaced the 460 with a Cummings 5.9 12 valve. It came from a 94. I had to add a one tons leaf springs to the front end. Love the modify that I did and what you did. I would of done a standard transmission. Easy peasy. God bless you and your family brother! Waving a hand at ya from Arizona.
Awesome swap man. I'm a big Chevy guy and love Cummins engines so this makes me happy. I have a 2500 6.0 as well, but I don't think I'm up for the swap haha.
You should do a video on measuring up or mocking up engine mounts for a swap.... I’m thinking of a 6.0 powerstroke in my squarebody....... that kind of info would defiantly help me. Especially since I don’t want to pull the the 6.0 out of my f250 just to see if I had room and if the leaf springs would hold it up
you dont have to go z71 to get torsion bars. my grandma had a 2wd 2004 tahoe LT with torsion bars. i guess it was some sort of suspension upgrade package. I remember from the way she talked about them the salesman must have sold them as a smooth ride enhancement which may or may not have been a lie.
1000 Allison also are in Chevy and GMC with 8.1L "496" gas . 4x4s will also have the 263 or 261 XHD transfer case's. 8.1 gas has the same drive train as a duramax. Just a Note, the Allison 2000 trans is not any better than the Allison 1000 , the 2000 is flipping noisier. It's the gears. I'm going to pull my 8.1L out later and put a Cat C7 in my 2001 Silverado 2500HD. There are actually 3 versions of 8.1L One is a detuned gelding from factory, rare and why GM was forced to do that was because the Allison trans where not available, that could withstand the torque.
This is what i want to do to my truck. I currently have a 496 big block paired with Allison trans, Was going to take the 12 valve out of my 96 with only 176k miles on her in put it in my Chevy. That way i have the Cummins and Allison combo and i have the 2500HD frame. Kinda afraid to tackle this project i dont have a welder yet and have basic knowledge. Plus both of my trucks will be down at the same time
+dkhill27 Have you watched the Tahoe videos? They are very informative and will help a lot before you start. You can buy complete kits that include mounts and Hose adapters for rad and AC from cummins conversion specialists that will speed up the conversion but are pretty pricy
ive been wanting to do the same swap, my question is how do you pass emissions. Currently i have a 6.0 gasser and i want to install the 5.9 cummins i just want to make sure i know what to change at ministry im also located in Ont, Canada any info would be much appreciated
actually duramax is not the only 2500 to come with the Allison. My father bought his 04 new and came factory with the 8.1 vortec gas and the Allison behind it. I'm not sure if Canada had that option though.
The reduced engine power is kinda funny considering the torque you produce now I’m planning on a 2008 Suburban 6BT hopefully with and Allison and straight axle swap🤞🏽if you have any tips I’d greatly appreciate it love your work
Jake Gardner Its the compression ignition, diesel has more energy then petrol, the low rpms cause them to last longer and because diesel burns slower then petrol. Also because wasted exhaust energy in petrol engines is recycled for the turbocharger to force more air into the intake to burn the fuel more completely and efficiently
Have you ever heard of jumping one tooth on the VE pump and it gives you 10 degrees advanced timing? I’ve heard of spinning the pump. Some have even said to jump a tooth and rotate the pump 1/8 inch and it is around 15 degrees. Just wanting to hear your take on it. Thanks
Nice swap and great tutorial. I have an '04 2500 with the Duramax and Allison that the D-max has given up on. I have a '94 12v that I want to put in it's place. Your vid gives me great hope that I can get this done. Only problem I'm seeing is the Cummins needs about 34" front to rear and the engine compart only has 28" of clearance. Did you have to cut the fire wall or move the rad forward? Thanks in advance.
+Gary Cook No, it fit fine but I had to move my trans back to the back trans mounting hole in the frame. I also had to cut some of the fins off my front diff to make the oil pan fit. If you have a body lift that won't be an issue but it fits pretty good.
Deboss I am highly impressed with your work. I have an 07 Silverado 4wd duramax with blown head gasket. Is it possible to retrofit the 5.9 Cummings to take the place of the dmax? And use the allison with the 4wd ?If so can I hire you to do the job?
+Jim Keyes The Silverado rad is roughly the same as a Dodge. The Cummins never gets as hot as the 6.0l unless you are stuck in traffic. I did not get cruise to work. I tried putting the throttle linkage on the side of the injection pump but the truck still went into limp mode and then wouldn't move anymore. I found out about efilive later, and probably could make it work but I threw my contraption out. I didn't do anything to the transmission and it is holding up fine. I didn't crank the fuel on the cummins either though. Stock torque convertor but if you are going to do crazy pulling I would recommend a built torque convertor. It will be the first thing to go
Perfect! I thought about getting a duramax radiator, core support, and intercooler setup for a stock looking appearance. I thought about removing the stepper motor from the throttle body to use for a tps along with cruise and shutting all fuel injection controls with either efi or hp tuners.
It should work. Set the stepper motor up like a paddle. When you turn the key on, it does a check so it actually spins backwards for a second before moving the right way. If you don't let it do a cycle, you will most likely throw another code. Are you using p pump or ve
+Jim Keyes The reluctor wheel is out of the scrap vortec. it is heat shrunk onto the crank so I heated it and pulled it off, measured the journal where it was on and machined a journal that fit on the front pulley, and heat shrunk the reluctor back on. I just made new mounts for the AC compressor and used the GM compressor. I machined the insides out of a Dodge 8 rib pulley, and then machined the 4 ribs off the GM compressor and heat shrunk the dodge ribs onto the GM compressor. CHeck out the 4bt Tahoe build. It explains a lot more in great detail. Thanks for watching
I don't know whether you would still reply to this, but if you could tell me where you got your chevrolet cummins valve cover I would really appreciate it, because thats totally bad ass.
Hey so I have a 12v ppumped truck that you have to give the throttle a bit to start it and when it starts it smokes and knocks pretty bad... just wondering if it is out of time would it knock pretty bad?
+cumminsfreak Yes< check timing. The Drive gear for the pump is not keyed and they slip sometimes. Do you know how to check the timing? Flywheel and pump? Make sure when you pop your gear off, you use a q-tip with rubbing alcohol on the taper of the gear to prevent it from slipping again. You are probably firing a tdc right now.
question what would you think if you put hho on it, how will that work out? suppose to add more mpg. would like to see how well it works with a Cummins.
Hey Deboss I seen you used the torsion bar setup in this build!! Will a stock torsion/front end on a Chevy 99 classic 2500 handle the weight of the 12v ok and keep the good ride out of it!? Thanks great videos!!
The easiest 5.9 Conversion is use a 94/95 Dodge truck. Use a whole engine and transmission combination! The transmission standalone. Doesn’t it need to be wired into the vehicle. So buy the whole truck😁 That’s what I did it all works!
In parts of the US this brilliant idea would be unfeasible due to emission testing/re-registration, DEF tank/system install & general liberal government bs.
alot of people say use a Dial indicator in the number #1 injector hole.. but I dnt have a Dial indicator yet... the oil isn't glinty and the guy I bought it from said it was a rod knock... how do you check the timing at TDC
+cumminsfreak Dial indictor is the proper way. Some engines had the timing marks on the flywheel though and you could see them through a cover on the passenger side at the back. Your pump timing pin should be lined up when the proper degrees are visible through the hole. check out th-cam.com/video/gwepAWiP_m0/w-d-xo.html to find the pin i'm talking about and check the plate on the drivers side timing cover to see what degrees your engine should be set at stock. If you have no idea what Im talking about I can make a video but it wil be a couple months before I can get to it. Im waiting for a P Pump to pull in the driveway
+DEBOSS GARAGE yes I do know of what your talking about... having good advise is cool as well... I did tag you on Instagram of the truck running.. I'll keep you updated on how it goes tomorrow no heat in the garage and it's windy tonight... if the pump timing pin happens to be broke off what would you recommend doing as to getting the pump at TDC?
The pin is just to hold the pump from turning when you are removing the pump. Use a mirror and as long as you can see the tab pointing straight out, you know the pump is ready to fire on #1
+DEBOSS GARAGE cool thanks alot for the advise... your shop is pretty well set up... someday my 26x30 will be replaced with 60x80 if money only grew on trees
+Kenny A Thanks! that was the first video we ever made. If you want in depth info on swaps, check out the 4bt Tahoe conversion. Everything you need to know is on that series.
+DEBOSS GARAGE Need advice on what diesel truck to buy to tow my travel trailer...want a 2500 series..heard the 5.9liter Cummins up to 2007 was good but how is trans? if I do good maintenance, how many miles can I expect off a 5.9Cummins? all advice is welcomed!
+Kenny A It was the earlier models that had a lot of issues with the trans. 47re I believe. The 5.9l Cummins is my recommendation for sure. I have seen the engines hit 1 million km but half that is usually when the trucks fall apart. If you delete your electronics on the engine and start modding the engine with larger turbos and injectors, the trans will be the first to go. Any Duramax after 2003 is also a reliable engine. They had some injector issues that were taken care of in 2003. GM is still running basically the same engine up until 2015. Whatever you do, DO NOT by a 6.0l, 6.4l, or 6.7l Ford. There is a host of problems with these engines, thats why the trucks are cheap. There are several companies like diesel conversion speacialists that make a very good living pulling these engines and replacing them with Cummins. Hope this helps!
+DEBOSS GARAGE 6.0 and 6.4 Powerstrokes are fairly simple to be made reliable. I'd prefer the 7.3 still, but there's no reason to pass up a 6.0/6.4 if you can afford the bulletproofing. The 6.7, I haven't heard of many issues. It's used a lot in the commercial industry without complaints.
Thanks , what about controller for trans i tried looking for the one you mentioned "coleman" not sure if thats correct , also i found adapter plates on ebay they look original like from bread trucks and such they say 6bt to chevy with flex plate and starters but not sure if those will work correctly , should i just go with diesel conversion specialist like yourself?
+guzlndzl Its a US Shift controller for Bauman. I used the same one on my 4bt Tahoe and made a video about tuning it. th-cam.com/video/TUls66H7syU/w-d-xo.html . You can use the adapter plate from a bread truck but they are meant for a 5 spd. You would still have to get a flywheel to fit and the setback would be wrong. Those adapter plates are also on a bit of an angle so your trans or engine will be tilted. I would just go with DCS if I were you.
you got about 18 mpg?? I have a 2002 Silverado 2500hd 4x4 crew cab with 285/75r16 tires 4.10 axle gear ratio,4l80e stock with factory torque converter it's what was behind my 6.0..but I am only seeing about 12-13 mpg hwy.My 96 p pump cummins has governor spring and stock plate only half way forward..so I wish I knew what I did wrong to get low fuel milage..I used tci ez tcu trany controller.i did crank sensor with reluctor wheel like you so its very similar..I watched your Tahoe video and I run at same speed and rpm on highway as your setup so my rpm is normal..wish I could get at least 15mpg..I did my mpg test on a 600 mile trip..
+DEBOSS GARAGE all stock engine just slightly moved fuel plate forward and gov springs done.ill have to do some fooling with it maybe timing has moved..it runs good no smoke but I just thought Id share my experience.
I ended up putting 3:73 in it to bring the rpm down. Turning about 1800 down the highway. The CC is heavier but It shouldn't make that much of a difference.
Im about to throw a oddball at you here bud. So i got a 68 c10 (2wd) with a 327 in it and ifs. thats just not enough chooch for me. If at all possible id prefer a manual transmission to scoot it along with a 12v just like you got there. What is the best approach for tackling this project? Or perhaps would you be interested in doing it?
We have the first real build episode of our 64 C10 with a Duramax swap just about ready. Reconsider? I would do an Nv4500 behind a Cummins. Bolts right up with no fuss.
Nothing against a Dmax but thats just too many wires and computers for me. Its the main reason i fell in love with the Cummins engines. Now when you say they bolt right up is that with a Chevy bell housing and all the goodies inside of it or do i need a conversion.
Stay with the 327. It's lighter, and properly refreshed/ rebuilt, will crank out 300- 350+ reliable HP with a few performance parts. Unless you haul heavy, don't bother with the heavier, under 200 HP stock Cummins.
THIS is what I want to do!!! I have the '02 2500HD 6.0L thirsty bastard.. My question is with the TC and such.. Are you still using the gasser torque converter and valve body?
I put 50 000 km on the torque converter and valve body. I blew a cooler line on the highway though and that finished off the trans. It still moved the truck but it was never the same. I'm in the process of switching it out to a NV4500 stick
the 4L60/80E's are notorious for overpressuring (as you already know) and killing themselves.. the NV4500 is a great transmission, but IMHO, I think the 3-4 split is too far, especially if you'll be towing. The 5600 is great, as it bridges this gap nicely.. at the cost of 2x the price, though.. I've done a bunch of Dodge 47RH/E to 4500 conversions, and they're a piece of cake. Will you have to change the driveshafts again, or is the 4L60E and 4500 close enough to same length?
+Quenson Johns The vortecs on both the Silverado and my cummins had a viscous fan. To overcome this I wired in a separate relay for both fans with a 180* sensor on the engine. When it hits 180, it goes to ground and turns the relays on. Works very well. I put a toggle switch in the cab to override the temp fan in case I'm pulling something heavy. No problems so far. Ill make a video in a bit on how to wire in a relay.
Make sure your air filter is good. Its getting more fuel than air. It would be odd for something to change in the pump. Usually when a pump goes, you get less fuel and power.
hate to bother bit i have a question about my 95 12v. its has become harder to start and wen free revved at 2k rpm it white smokes and sputters. im thinking timing slipped but im not a diesel mechanic.
that would be my first guess. The drive gear on the pump is only a press fit and they slip occasionally. your 5iming id's delayed, probably close to tdc
+guzlndzl I bypassed pretty well everything. I unplugged the pump in the tank and ran a standpipe down below. Make sure it is in the fuel assembly housing so you utilize the check valves. You'll know what I mean when you get into it. I ran a new feed line with 1/2" air line hose because it is plastic and flexible and it is no problem running it in one length. The lift pump can pull the fuel easily that way. Bypass all the emissions crap on the return side and just run a new line back into the tank. Not much to it at all. If there is anything else I can help with, don't hesitate to throw me line.
Muhammad Furqan i would but money wise, how about you fund it an I’ll do it an let you know GoFundMe. www.gofundme.com/f/2192qvfig0?+share-sheet&rcid=af347a1fd8cd4eedbd6017d45693e057
@@DEBOSSGARAGE now your talking? 🤔 I got a 92 c1500 half ton I'm in the works of converting to DMAX. A body swap is more fitting. All that engineering required to make it work with what it currently has just seems to extreme😂. Love the videos though🤙🤙
i deboss garage do you have a used exhaust brake to put on my dually auto dodge 5.9 24 v i live near you in montréal pq if so what will be the price install thank you i like your channel
+Pierre Beausoleil Unfortunately I do not have a used one currently. I will keep you in mind if I run across one and if you come across one first, I would love to install it for you
If you have the 8.1 it comes with the Allison to will the gas Allison work with a diesel or do they have different gear ratios. I've been wondering and can't seem to find a solid answer
+Jay H I still used the gm 4l80E. The trans computer plugs into the valve body and tees into the speedo on the tailstock. That way the controller knows what speed the truck is doing and can tell the valve body what to do. The gauges work like they always did
+Jay H Not really... I have a customers 57 Studebaker truck body going on a Dakota RT frame and drivetrain, a 52 international crew cab (two cabs welded together) going on a 91 W350 Cummins, my 67 GTO to finish and my 39 Studebaker commander to finish. Along with that my tape Bosses are starting to take off and might actually go big if a couple things fall into place. Along with a 25 month and 11 month girls, I probably shouldn't take on too much more for awhile!
+DEBOSS GARAGE AFC live will control the boost and fueling control for your afc's foot and rack travelinside the p 7100 pump allowing you to control how much fuel is given to the engine and to tune the smoke and hazeyness out the is a great write up on www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94-98-performance-parts-discussion/1710706-afc-live-has-arrived-beginning-new-era.html and powerdrivendiesel.com sells it. PS just found your channel today and i love keep up the good work
DEBOSS GARAGE thanks for the response. Yea I have an 89 C3500 with a 12v Cummins. I did 2002 front end body conversion. Using the 2002 radiator support is making things tight so was trying to find out if the stock 6.0l radiator was good to cool.
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I love why you’ve done with this thing. It really makes me wanna pull my duramax for a Cummins lol
I have a 90 F250 that I replaced the 460 with a Cummings 5.9 12 valve. It came from a 94. I had to add a one tons leaf springs to the front end. Love the modify that I did and what you did. I would of done a standard transmission. Easy peasy. God bless you and your family brother! Waving a hand at ya from Arizona.
not sure if someone else has mentioned it already but the 8.1l 2500hds had a allison transmission
pretty thorough install and awesome job
Awesome swap man. I'm a big Chevy guy and love Cummins engines so this makes me happy. I have a 2500 6.0 as well, but I don't think I'm up for the swap haha.
Throw a CAT in that bitch😂😂
Envy your ability
You do great things with these vehicles
allison came behind the 496 big block too my buddy has a 2003 or 2004 with it
Use 609 green loctite on the cam gear sprocket, that's what Cummins recommended for semi engines with the same system
Thanks for the overview! Great Job!
You took thismserious right from the get go.... good editing and content even back then
Was talking about doing this swap and googled it and here we are at the bosses shop
like your engine mounting brackets and i think your video are very informative
You should do a video on measuring up or mocking up engine mounts for a swap.... I’m thinking of a 6.0 powerstroke in my squarebody....... that kind of info would defiantly help me. Especially since I don’t want to pull the the 6.0 out of my f250 just to see if I had room and if the leaf springs would hold it up
you dont have to go z71 to get torsion bars. my grandma had a 2wd 2004 tahoe LT with torsion bars. i guess it was some sort of suspension upgrade package. I remember from the way she talked about them the salesman must have sold them as a smooth ride enhancement which may or may not have been a lie.
1000 Allison also are in Chevy and GMC with 8.1L "496" gas .
4x4s will also have the 263 or 261 XHD transfer case's.
8.1 gas has the same drive train as a duramax.
Just a Note, the Allison 2000 trans is not any better than the Allison 1000 , the 2000 is flipping noisier.
It's the gears.
I'm going to pull my 8.1L out later and put a Cat C7 in my 2001 Silverado 2500HD.
There are actually 3 versions of 8.1L
One is a detuned gelding from factory, rare and why GM was forced to do that was because the Allison trans where not available, that could withstand the torque.
9:43 love it.
This is what i want to do to my truck. I currently have a 496 big block paired with Allison trans, Was going to take the 12 valve out of my 96 with only 176k miles on her in put it in my Chevy. That way i have the Cummins and Allison combo and i have the 2500HD frame. Kinda afraid to tackle this project i dont have a welder yet and have basic knowledge. Plus both of my trucks will be down at the same time
+dkhill27 Have you watched the Tahoe videos? They are very informative and will help a lot before you start. You can buy complete kits that include mounts and Hose adapters for rad and AC from cummins conversion specialists that will speed up the conversion but are pretty pricy
ive been wanting to do the same swap, my question is how do you pass emissions. Currently i have a 6.0 gasser and i want to install the 5.9 cummins i just want to make sure i know what to change at ministry im also located in Ont, Canada any info would be much appreciated
you sir, are a genius!!!
actually duramax is not the only 2500 to come with the Allison. My father bought his 04 new and came factory with the 8.1 vortec gas and the Allison behind it. I'm not sure if Canada had that option though.
Deboss i wish our truck shop could afford to move you here to northern Indiana and wrench
The reduced engine power is kinda funny considering the torque you produce now I’m planning on a 2008 Suburban 6BT hopefully with and Allison and straight axle swap🤞🏽if you have any tips I’d greatly appreciate it love your work
I wanted to hear that bad boy run!
th-cam.com/video/TSr3paXf1Gk/w-d-xo.html
Great no nonsense video. Gave the facts, fast and strait up with no bs,
My 2015 5.3 gasser 1/2 ton will get 21 on the highway. I've done better depending on wind and hills but it will do 21 on avg.
Make a complete tear down and rebuild on the 5.9
Thats a dope swap!
Diesels are a long way ahead when it comes to fuel economy.
wazza33racer they just run at so low of rpms.
Jake Gardner Its the compression ignition, diesel has more energy then petrol, the low rpms cause them to last longer and because diesel burns slower then petrol. Also because wasted exhaust energy in petrol engines is recycled for the turbocharger to force more air into the intake to burn the fuel more completely and efficiently
They used to be anyway new diesels get shitty mileage
methanol idles around 6.5/1 gasoline around 15/1 compared to diesels as lean as 100/1, only a small variable but something worth thinking about.
Have you ever heard of jumping one tooth on the VE pump and it gives you 10 degrees advanced timing? I’ve heard of spinning the pump. Some have even said to jump a tooth and rotate the pump 1/8 inch and it is around 15 degrees. Just wanting to hear your take on it. Thanks
U are awesome bro u explain stuff to a T
Nice swap and great tutorial. I have an '04 2500 with the Duramax and Allison that the D-max has given up on. I have a '94 12v that I want to put in it's place. Your vid gives me great hope that I can get this done. Only problem I'm seeing is the Cummins needs about 34" front to rear and the engine compart only has 28" of clearance. Did you have to cut the fire wall or move the rad forward? Thanks in advance.
+Gary Cook No, it fit fine but I had to move my trans back to the back trans mounting hole in the frame. I also had to cut some of the fins off my front diff to make the oil pan fit. If you have a body lift that won't be an issue but it fits pretty good.
Gary Cook is your profile picture your truck?
Nice build what's the difference between that 5.9 and is 1 out of a pickup is it the pump RPM rod bearings e.t.c
Great job
You are a genius sir.
I'm no mechanic but Changing from petrol to diesel did you have to change the ratio on the diff to match
4l80e has a tall first gear, also all 2500’s with a gas had factory 4.10’s
Deboss I am highly impressed with your work. I have an 07 Silverado 4wd duramax with blown head gasket. Is it possible to retrofit the 5.9 Cummings to take the place of the dmax? And use the allison with the 4wd ?If so can I hire you to do the job?
Awesome job man I'm thinking about doing it to my truck did you have to do a body lift to get clearance on the bell housing?
In the 4L80 can handle the cummins?
What did you use for a radiator in the truck? Did you get cruise to work? Any added work to the transmission? Aftermarket torque converter?
+Jim Keyes The Silverado rad is roughly the same as a Dodge. The Cummins never gets as hot as the 6.0l unless you are stuck in traffic. I did not get cruise to work. I tried putting the throttle linkage on the side of the injection pump but the truck still went into limp mode and then wouldn't move anymore. I found out about efilive later, and probably could make it work but I threw my contraption out. I didn't do anything to the transmission and it is holding up fine. I didn't crank the fuel on the cummins either though. Stock torque convertor but if you are going to do crazy pulling I would recommend a built torque convertor. It will be the first thing to go
Perfect! I thought about getting a duramax radiator, core support, and intercooler setup for a stock looking appearance. I thought about removing the stepper motor from the throttle body to use for a tps along with cruise and shutting all fuel injection controls with either efi or hp tuners.
It should work. Set the stepper motor up like a paddle. When you turn the key on, it does a check so it actually spins backwards for a second before moving the right way. If you don't let it do a cycle, you will most likely throw another code. Are you using p pump or ve
+DEBOSS GARAGE
P-pump motor. who made your reluctor wheel mount on the crank to retain the factory tach? stock a/c lines work?
+Jim Keyes The reluctor wheel is out of the scrap vortec. it is heat shrunk onto the crank so I heated it and pulled it off, measured the journal where it was on and machined a journal that fit on the front pulley, and heat shrunk the reluctor back on. I just made new mounts for the AC compressor and used the GM compressor. I machined the insides out of a Dodge 8 rib pulley, and then machined the 4 ribs off the GM compressor and heat shrunk the dodge ribs onto the GM compressor. CHeck out the 4bt Tahoe build. It explains a lot more in great detail. Thanks for watching
I know this is old but couldn't you put a set screw in your nut for the timing to make sure it doesn't back off?
so cant you take the pump out and have the shaft ground out for a key way...? then you have it stuck permanently where you want it..?
So . Why did you go with the standard transmission on 2nd build? Was the Auto not good enough?
I don't know whether you would still reply to this, but if you could tell me where you got your chevrolet cummins valve cover I would really appreciate it, because thats totally bad ass.
So does it have a functioning cruise control? No cruise would kill me on long hauls
Hey so I have a 12v ppumped truck that you have to give the throttle a bit to start it and when it starts it smokes and knocks pretty bad... just wondering if it is out of time would it knock pretty bad?
+cumminsfreak Yes< check timing. The Drive gear for the pump is not keyed and they slip sometimes. Do you know how to check the timing? Flywheel and pump? Make sure when you pop your gear off, you use a q-tip with rubbing alcohol on the taper of the gear to prevent it from slipping again. You are probably firing a tdc right now.
question what would you think if you put hho on it, how will that work out? suppose to add more mpg. would like to see how well it works with a Cummins.
Hey Deboss I seen you used the torsion bar setup in this build!! Will a stock torsion/front end on a Chevy 99 classic 2500 handle the weight of the 12v ok and keep the good ride out of it!? Thanks great videos!!
Duramax isn’t light..
The easiest 5.9 Conversion is use a 94/95 Dodge truck.
Use a whole engine and transmission combination!
The transmission standalone. Doesn’t it need to be wired into the vehicle.
So buy the whole truck😁
That’s what I did it all works!
That s what I was thinking lol
And the transmission lions and brackets
Me and my brother would like to put a John Deere 6cyl in a ford f250 1999+. How crazy would this be....too hard??
In parts of the US this brilliant idea would be unfeasible due to emission testing/re-registration, DEF tank/system install & general liberal government bs.
alot of people say use a Dial indicator in the number #1 injector hole.. but I dnt have a Dial indicator yet... the oil isn't glinty and the guy I bought it from said it was a rod knock... how do you check the timing at TDC
+cumminsfreak Dial indictor is the proper way. Some engines had the timing marks on the flywheel though and you could see them through a cover on the passenger side at the back. Your pump timing pin should be lined up when the proper degrees are visible through the hole. check out th-cam.com/video/gwepAWiP_m0/w-d-xo.html to find the pin i'm talking about and check the plate on the drivers side timing cover to see what degrees your engine should be set at stock. If you have no idea what Im talking about I can make a video but it wil be a couple months before I can get to it. Im waiting for a P Pump to pull in the driveway
+DEBOSS GARAGE yes I do know of what your talking about... having good advise is cool as well... I did tag you on Instagram of the truck running.. I'll keep you updated on how it goes tomorrow no heat in the garage and it's windy tonight... if the pump timing pin happens to be broke off what would you recommend doing as to getting the pump at TDC?
The pin is just to hold the pump from turning when you are removing the pump. Use a mirror and as long as you can see the tab pointing straight out, you know the pump is ready to fire on #1
+DEBOSS GARAGE cool thanks alot for the advise... your shop is pretty well set up... someday my 26x30 will be replaced with 60x80 if money only grew on trees
Can I swap out a 6.6 Duramax 3500 Chevy with a 5.9 Cummings and still use the Allison Transmission
How do you feel about an isb 170 with the 4l80 instead?
great video.......thanks!
+Kenny A Thanks! that was the first video we ever made. If you want in depth info on swaps, check out the 4bt Tahoe conversion. Everything you need to know is on that series.
+DEBOSS GARAGE Need advice on what diesel truck to buy to tow my travel trailer...want a 2500 series..heard the 5.9liter Cummins up to 2007 was good but how is trans? if I do good maintenance, how many miles can I expect off a 5.9Cummins? all advice is welcomed!
+Kenny A It was the earlier models that had a lot of issues with the trans. 47re I believe. The 5.9l Cummins is my recommendation for sure. I have seen the engines hit 1 million km but half that is usually when the trucks fall apart. If you delete your electronics on the engine and start modding the engine with larger turbos and injectors, the trans will be the first to go. Any Duramax after 2003 is also a reliable engine. They had some injector issues that were taken care of in 2003. GM is still running basically the same engine up until 2015. Whatever you do, DO NOT by a 6.0l, 6.4l, or 6.7l Ford. There is a host of problems with these engines, thats why the trucks are cheap. There are several companies like diesel conversion speacialists that make a very good living pulling these engines and replacing them with Cummins. Hope this helps!
+DEBOSS GARAGE 6.0 and 6.4 Powerstrokes are fairly simple to be made reliable. I'd prefer the 7.3 still, but there's no reason to pass up a 6.0/6.4 if you can afford the bulletproofing.
The 6.7, I haven't heard of many issues. It's used a lot in the commercial industry without complaints.
FCFordLord I work for a municipal government that has sworn off diesels in pickups because of issues 6.0 and 6.4 powerstroke and now with the 6.7s
Thanks , what about controller for trans i tried looking for the one you mentioned "coleman" not sure if thats correct , also i found adapter plates on ebay they look original like from bread trucks and such they say 6bt to chevy with flex plate and starters but not sure if those will work correctly , should i just go with diesel conversion specialist like yourself?
+guzlndzl Its a US Shift controller for Bauman. I used the same one on my 4bt Tahoe and made a video about tuning it. th-cam.com/video/TUls66H7syU/w-d-xo.html . You can use the adapter plate from a bread truck but they are meant for a 5 spd. You would still have to get a flywheel to fit and the setback would be wrong. Those adapter plates are also on a bit of an angle so your trans or engine will be tilted. I would just go with DCS if I were you.
Awesome job thanks for the info
So id presume i should be able to do the same thing with my 2011 suburban maybe?
you got about 18 mpg?? I have a 2002 Silverado 2500hd 4x4 crew cab with 285/75r16 tires 4.10 axle gear ratio,4l80e stock with factory torque converter it's what was behind my 6.0..but I am only seeing about 12-13 mpg hwy.My 96 p pump cummins has governor spring and stock plate only half way forward..so I wish I knew what I did wrong to get low fuel milage..I used tci ez tcu trany controller.i did crank sensor with reluctor wheel like you so its very similar..I watched your Tahoe video and I run at same speed and rpm on highway as your setup so my rpm is normal..wish I could get at least 15mpg..I did my mpg test on a 600 mile trip..
That seems really low. What is your timing set at?
+DEBOSS GARAGE all stock engine just slightly moved fuel plate forward and gov springs done.ill have to do some fooling with it maybe timing has moved..it runs good no smoke but I just thought Id share my experience.
I ended up putting 3:73 in it to bring the rpm down. Turning about 1800 down the highway. The CC is heavier but It shouldn't make that much of a difference.
Im about to throw a oddball at you here bud. So i got a 68 c10 (2wd) with a 327 in it and ifs. thats just not enough chooch for me. If at all possible id prefer a manual transmission to scoot it along with a 12v just like you got there. What is the best approach for tackling this project? Or perhaps would you be interested in doing it?
We have the first real build episode of our 64 C10 with a Duramax swap just about ready. Reconsider? I would do an Nv4500 behind a Cummins. Bolts right up with no fuss.
Nothing against a Dmax but thats just too many wires and computers for me. Its the main reason i fell in love with the Cummins engines. Now when you say they bolt right up is that with a Chevy bell housing and all the goodies inside of it or do i need a conversion.
Stay with the 327. It's lighter, and properly refreshed/ rebuilt, will crank out 300- 350+ reliable HP with a few performance parts. Unless you haul heavy, don't bother with the heavier, under 200 HP stock Cummins.
What did you do for the power steering pump? To run to hydro booster? Were you able to run gm pump? Thanks
+Hump Day Hockey I used the Dodge powersteering pump and ran it right through the brakes. Worked great.
THIS is what I want to do!!! I have the '02 2500HD 6.0L thirsty bastard.. My question is with the TC and such.. Are you still using the gasser torque converter and valve body?
I put 50 000 km on the torque converter and valve body. I blew a cooler line on the highway though and that finished off the trans. It still moved the truck but it was never the same. I'm in the process of switching it out to a NV4500 stick
the 4L60/80E's are notorious for overpressuring (as you already know) and killing themselves.. the NV4500 is a great transmission, but IMHO, I think the 3-4 split is too far, especially if you'll be towing. The 5600 is great, as it bridges this gap nicely.. at the cost of 2x the price, though.. I've done a bunch of Dodge 47RH/E to 4500 conversions, and they're a piece of cake. Will you have to change the driveshafts again, or is the 4L60E and 4500 close enough to same length?
Awesome job on the engine! How did you manage the electric fans? Did you wire them through the PCM or another way?
+Quenson Johns The vortecs on both the Silverado and my cummins had a viscous fan. To overcome this I wired in a separate relay for both fans with a 180* sensor on the engine. When it hits 180, it goes to ground and turns the relays on. Works very well. I put a toggle switch in the cab to override the temp fan in case I'm pulling something heavy. No problems so far. Ill make a video in a bit on how to wire in a relay.
+DEBOSS GARAGE awesome thank you! Again great job on the swap. thinking about replicating this myself.
Was there any problem with getting your annual E test ?
hi , did kept the old raditor or you get a new one for the cummins
+Ahmad Ali Chevy rad is plenty big. Cummins run very efficient so don't produce near the heat a 6.0l does. Fans only come on in traffic jams
Thnx
What does it mean when you floor it and it rolls coal? it has boost. could it be a stuck injectors
Make sure your air filter is good. Its getting more fuel than air. It would be odd for something to change in the pump. Usually when a pump goes, you get less fuel and power.
Does anyone know where to get the custom valve top shroud plate?
how was the ride quality after you cranked the keys with all that added weight up front?
Really nice. Drove full days (8 hours) no problem
hate to bother bit i have a question about my 95 12v. its has become harder to start and wen free revved at 2k rpm it white smokes and sputters. im thinking timing slipped but im not a diesel mechanic.
also mpg went from 15 to 13, not sure if that is related.
that would be my first guess. The drive gear on the pump is only a press fit and they slip occasionally. your 5iming id's delayed, probably close to tdc
+Kyle Gohrmann alright thanks, i guess ill check that soon.
+Kyle Gohrmann alright thanks, i guess ill check that soon.
Do you know how to pin the flywheel at TDC and check the degrees on the pump? Your timing cover will tell you have many degrees BTDC you need.
What did he do for the throttle set up
What happens when its emissions testing time?
What did you do for fuel system ? I have a 01 3500 with 8.1 and allison i want to put in a 5.9 in it but dont know what to do about fuel
+guzlndzl I bypassed pretty well everything. I unplugged the pump in the tank and ran a standpipe down below. Make sure it is in the fuel assembly housing so you utilize the check valves. You'll know what I mean when you get into it. I ran a new feed line with 1/2" air line hose because it is plastic and flexible and it is no problem running it in one length. The lift pump can pull the fuel easily that way. Bypass all the emissions crap on the return side and just run a new line back into the tank. Not much to it at all. If there is anything else I can help with, don't hesitate to throw me line.
I have a 90 model 12 value engine. how hard is it to put in a 2001 24 value with automatic pickup I have the adapter plate
Put the whole truck and transmission combination and if it’s a four-wheel-drive/Or 2 Wheel Dr.
Is it a good idea to use a 4L60E from the Chevy on the Cummins
Muhammad Furqan it was on a 2500 HD
Muhammad Furqan i would but money wise, how about you fund it an I’ll do it an let you know GoFundMe. www.gofundme.com/f/2192qvfig0?+share-sheet&rcid=af347a1fd8cd4eedbd6017d45693e057
How did you run everything with wire harness?
Has anybody thought about putting a International diesel in a gm truck? With the Alison
Anthony Torres like the dt466
Can you just get a 12v and then get a trans adapter
I know you don’t like fords but quick question is it posible to get a Cummins on a 2010 f250?
Anything is possible with money
Is cummins his favorite brand or what? Why arent we seeing these same chevy vehicle conversions with a duramax?
Next build is a 64 C10 with Duramx. Just finishing up a few projects first
@@DEBOSSGARAGE now your talking? 🤔 I got a 92 c1500 half ton I'm in the works of converting to DMAX. A body swap is more fitting. All that engineering required to make it work with what it currently has just seems to extreme😂. Love the videos though🤙🤙
i deboss garage do you have a used exhaust brake to put on my dually auto dodge 5.9 24 v i live near you in montréal pq if so what will be the price install thank you i like your channel
+Pierre Beausoleil Unfortunately I do not have a used one currently. I will keep you in mind if I run across one and if you come across one first, I would love to install it for you
+DEBOSS GARAGE thank you
What is the final speed on the highway?
can i put this engine in a 2006 toyota sequoia?
Motor mounts?
If you have the 8.1 it comes with the Allison to will the gas Allison work with a diesel or do they have different gear ratios. I've been wondering and can't seem to find a solid answer
I have vum pump on my 1993 6.5 3500 gmc
What diesel would you recommend for a 2015 Silverado 1500 double cab 2wd???
D. Hernandez buy a real truck
4bt would give you great mileage and over all best drivabillity. A 6bt cummins is probably to heavy for a two wheel drive 1500
Brilliant
9:43 Did he just give us the finger?
how did you get the chevy speedometer to operate?
+Jay H I still used the gm 4l80E. The trans computer plugs into the valve body and tees into the speedo on the tailstock. That way the controller knows what speed the truck is doing and can tell the valve body what to do. The gauges work like they always did
Would you be interested in making mounts and a detailed list of wiring you had to do and selling?
+Jay H Not really... I have a customers 57 Studebaker truck body going on a Dakota RT frame and drivetrain, a 52 international crew cab (two cabs welded together) going on a 91 W350 Cummins, my 67 GTO to finish and my 39 Studebaker commander to finish. Along with that my tape Bosses are starting to take off and might actually go big if a couple things fall into place. Along with a 25 month and 11 month girls, I probably shouldn't take on too much more for awhile!
you can get a little more power with AFC live
+jeff stevenson In what way? Didn't know that was possible as the engine is completely mechanical.
+DEBOSS GARAGE AFC live will control the boost and fueling control for your afc's foot and rack travelinside the p 7100 pump allowing you to control how much fuel is given to the engine and to tune the smoke and hazeyness out the is a great write up on www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94-98-performance-parts-discussion/1710706-afc-live-has-arrived-beginning-new-era.html
and powerdrivendiesel.com sells it. PS just found your channel today and i love keep up the good work
I read the article and watched the video. Looks incredible! I am definately going to look into running one of these. Thanks for the lead!
+DEBOSS GARAGE happy to help . keep up the good work
How well did the 6.0l radiator work?
No issues. Fans only kick on when sitting in traffic
DEBOSS GARAGE thanks for the response. Yea I have an 89 C3500 with a 12v Cummins. I did 2002 front end body conversion. Using the 2002 radiator support is making things tight so was trying to find out if the stock 6.0l radiator was good to cool.
what did you do for fuel system
deleted evap, return right into tank, unplug pump, and install filler neck from diesel tank onto original tank.
+DEBOSS GARAGE nice, I didn't know if it was able to suck through the original pump or not
What do you charge for this
holy shit man change the shirt it ferocious
u can put a Allison with a 5.9
Awesome
never heard of a cummins in a chevy
Where did you get the engine mounts and trans adapter plate? I watched twice and didn’t hear you mention it? Thanks in advance bud!
I made the mounts. Adapter plate came from Diesel conversion specialists.
A Ford, Dodge, Chevy, nice
Dude why the cummins motors in GM pickups and SUV's?
Fuel savings. I doubled my mileage with every truck. between the Tahoe and the Silverado I save about $4-5000 dollars every year.
yeah but maintenance is more expensive and when you have breakdown its more expensive too
Reggie Dunlop what breakdown? Lol
how much to have one built?
$10-12k
So you'll be willing to have someone drop off their truck and 10-12k and you'll take care of the rest? Sounds more than fair