Originally it takes a total of 5 years before you graduated from Alfea. However, due to the first movie, it got shortened to three years. But I like to think the Winx graduated early, not only because they defeated Valtor but because any student that reaches Enchantix are given the option to graduate early. And the reason it takes 5 years is to give the students more time since not all of them are going to get Enchantix in the first try
Fun fact: apparently Faragonda used to be a witch before she became a fairy. And while this is interesting I don't think it was executed well. If anything I think it would've been awesome from a storytelling prospective. Not to mention if mirta was given the screentime she deserved, the fact that Faragonda, one of the most respected fairies used to be a witch will be aspiring for her since if I remember correctly she had some trouble learning fairy magic at the beginning.
I really wish that the writers had stuck to the idea of the girls being student teachers instead of cultural resetting them to full-on students, cause it would have made a lot of sense. I get they feared the girls being unreliable teachers cause they always come and go from Althea but them being student teacher kinda alleviates that problem cause their still learning and obviously Faragonda wants them at althea not just to teach but to help the universe. All it would have taken was a few extra bits of communication with the audience and changing of where the girls sat in class
This. Or they could have explained it more - like for example that they CAN attend another year, even after graduation if they feel they need to learn about a certain topic more, IF they really want to go the Stundentroute..
what aisha stated in season 2 was that fairies cannot stay transformed where they were, in the under realm, because of the amount of negative energy that affects their powers.
Going by the R.A.I. dub; she says young fairies can't maintain their transformations for too long. The implication being that it's a restriction they eventually grow out of. Both are probably true though.
There‘s also the Halloween episode in season 2(?) where they stay transformed for the night and feel weak afterwards, which prompts Aisha to explain the same thing.
I personally would've LOVED if the winx would always go back to their enchantix form after a certain mission, just like it was shown at the end of season4. They went back to it after their mission on earth was finished. Guess nickelodeon messed that up
True, since it was their final form. I just head cannon that enchantix is the main and most powerful form and the other ones are additions that only stay for fairies to do their job
Did the winx go back to Enchantix at the end of season 4? I couldn't find the conversation or the transformation. Could you tell me at which episode did they refer it.
About the Sky being king thingy: The ruling king or queen does not have to die in order for their child to take over. Here in Belgium, our ruling kings have stepped down (aka retired) a lot of the time. So it does make sense that way, but changing it back isn't really... A thing so idk why they did that 😅
@@bunnywar but that’s usually called a regent king/queen and everybody is aware that they are just a stand in for someone unable to claim the throne due to being to young or other weird political stuff. They are treated as a placeholder ruler.
I feel there’s so much potential for Rainbow to make some spin-off series. I’m interested in the Winx’s parents. Especially Domino’s history with the nymphs and the company of light. Also, Queen Morgana and their fight against the Wizards of the Black Circle. Would be cool if they showed the origin and how they gained immunity.
The whole thing with the transformations and the continuity errors after season 4 is basically because they did a soft reboot in season 5. Basically, they made them younger again just so they could continue to make the show for children instead of maturing with the already existing fanbase. This is why most people our age absolutely hate everything after season 4 since this basically shot themselves in the leg, trying to cater for younger audiences. This is also why season 8 looks as dumb as it does and why they scrap all seasons 1 through 8 altogether to make season 9 start at the beginning again with their basic fairy forms as shown in promotional material for the next season. Why they didn't just make a "new" Winx club for kids and continue on the mature path they were hinting at at the end of season 4 will forever be a mystery (it's probably cause of *money*) What I find super funny is the fact that they write the seasons like all the stuff of the former ones happened but without any of the consequences that would exist with everything that happened. They are basically doing a Winx Brexit lmao
Seasons 6&7 are practically a joke to me tho, I mean, even if we somehow ignore the atrocious new art style, that by the way is very hard to ignore since it practically kills the original magic of the series and makes it lose all its individuality, it makes me even more sad to realize that i can't even try to get into it because the story is so....boring..i mean...that is like , what? Baby tv material ? From a show that used to be interesting to teenagers? Cmon!!
bloom was able to escape from the legendarium, because it hadn't been that long, she was about to get stuck as she was almost completely drawn, in the pages of the book, but she still had a few minutes to get out, this is an official answer.
There is also confusion about mermaids in Winx world. In season 3 there only excited female mermaids but in season 5 mermans were introduced suddenly. Writers didn't explained why mermans were absent in season 3, I mean, it's cool to have male mermaids and to explain how mermaids reproduce but there was no hint or mention of merman in earlier seasons. They just appeared out of nowhere.
@@fatihkantekin757 yes he is P.S. I forgot to metion that Daphne being nymph of sirenix doesn't make sense. If Domino is kingdom of dragon fire why is Daphne is having aquatic powers?
@@bozanapetrovic8759 Simple, your elemental powers. She almost always says an element before using any Sirenix spells. Possibly in Winx being a nymph can let you use various elements.
@@bozanapetrovic8759 Sirenix itself is an aquatic based fairy form and we have to keep in mind that Daphne is a nymph not a fairy like Bloom which a very high tier for magical beings like them and it might explain why she's almost like a demigoddess as her powers can be very versatile though I really don't like how she was portrayed so weak in S5 when she was so mystical in the first 3 seasons 😭
The swap of Tune & Digit for Cherie & Cara (aka Caramel) was mostly to introduce the PopPixie series in the US market. The change of genre for Digit isn't for something because we ACTUALLY see Digit and Tune in their Winx Club series form in the episode 24 of Season 6. So the introduction of Cherie and Caramel in Winx Club Season 6 has no sense at all. Plus, their personalities have been softened and washed to be as boring as the other Pixies in Seasons 6 & 7.
If they really wanted to add Chérie And caramel, I wish they handled it better. Imagine : Musa And Tecna meet Chérie And Caramel at the Begining of Season 6 and can't wait to see again Tune And Digit. But they're trapped in the legendarium with the other Pixies And Musa And Tecna are Desperate to not know where they are And do What they Can to look for them for the entire Season. (They Can Even have a fight about the way to do and gain their bloomix by resolving this, it would have more emotional impact) And during this Season, they Bond with Chérie And Caramel because they decided to help them And they get to Know each other. At the end of the Season, they managed to find Tune And Digit And they both bonded with two Pixies !! This is the Bad thing with Season 6. They have tons of good Idea but they handled it in a lazy And childlish way without thinking about the accuracy of what they made before And without thinking about their huge fandom
I personally think that there is still no need to just scrap Digit and Tune. They could have introduced Cherie and Caramel as bonded pixies for Daphne and Roxy.
I hate how the Winx transformation outfits became less on theme for their own individual power and just became the same outfits or similar outfits for all of them with less details with the only difference being a color palette swatch. I loved how unique Tecna's Winx at the season 1-3 eras were. The plot became hot ass, they could've atleast made them nicer to look at
I don't remember if you talk about this in your first video, but to me something that never made sense is the fact that Darkar its supposed to be a divine creature, just like the dragon, but its seems way weaker than the other villains that the winx club had.
@@kingdomorange2 The writers tried to do a distant villain but failed. The concept of the distant villian is that it's a villain detached from his foes, most of the time he stays passive and lets his minions do his bidding but when he becomes active he literally is one of the most powerful characters in the story. There are two mistakes you should never do while writing this kind of villain 1) Letting them stay too passive: This will cause the audience to forget the villains existence and cause him to lose his importence 2) Making them underpowered: This will cause the villian to look like a joke and ruin the ultimate climax of the story, the final battle. The writers made darkar both underpowered and too passive
Another thing that doesn't make sense: If for the Winx to gain Believix they would need to make a human (or half-human) believe in magic, what species are Bloom's adoptive parents?
could the reason the winx/bloom didn't get believix when they made mike and vanessa believe in fairies be because they didn't have their enchantix powers yet? like it could be that they can't gain any of the 'infinate transformations' (like believix and sirenix and harmonix etc) until they've reached the final fairy form/enchantix? that could explain it 😅
I still wonder why it took bloom so long to get bloomix. Sure I do understand the writers didnt thought about bloomix until that season but thats a boring answer. Bloom showed so many 'true fairy' moments in the show so after she got her true enchantix she should have been able to get her bloomix right? Also why are flora and her sister on two different fairy schools? Wouldnt it be easier for flora to go to the school at her own planet? Or miele to go to the 'best fairyschool already?
Honestly, I was so excited when they announced season four because Winx was my favorite show as a child and I was so sad that it ended after the movie. But little did I know that the storyline would get ruined and dumbed down so it could be targeted at a younger demographic. They definitely should've ended after the first animated movie or at least not recycled the premise of the first season only with a different location.
I'd say all fairies are capable of transformation magic, some simply stay in their fairy form because of tradition like the earth fairies or Arcadia. Maybe it's been to show of your status as a fully grown fairy and being prowd of what you are back in the days. Faragonda and Griselda maybe don't transform to show their students that they can be powerful even without transforming and that a fairy has much more abilities than they think. Also Aisha/Layla was talking about charmix fairies who are not fully grown fairies. As Enchantix they never struggled with their Transformation, except when they were in the Omega dimension and even there Stella managed to stay transformed after she almost used up all her magic.
Aisha was always her name in italian production. Gladis was the first changed name 4kids brought up before Layla, that's why this information was only seen in the mattel prototype doll box, seen that their boxes written were based by the 4kids dub.
@@sagittariusseiya8310 4kids was the first Company to do an english dub for Winx, so it was actually them. The Cinelume Dub( called Rai english dub by the fans) just kept Layla, but this was the only changed they've made. 4kids was famous for doing changes liked that, they changed the meaning of Winx, they made Musa a princess, Domino was called Sparks, Andros was called Tides, Valtor was Baltor and so on.
@@imafolklorestan The reason why it's called Sparks is because of Yu Gi Oh called Domino City, that's why. Tides is because of Sea of Andros and Melody to Harmonic realm is a nice name, Linphea to Marigold realm and Zenith to Binary realm.
the legendarium has a bigger issue in my opinion ,the pixies which were trapeed there from the tree trolls should have never be able to escape,they were traped there for almost the whole session.Something that has irritated me for quite a while is the strange way of writing side charecters atleast for me,in many sessions winx aren't treated like saviours ,many people don't give them enough respect although they have saved the magick universe many times,example the students in alfea in season 4 said that winx were show-offs and she put the bomb and flora got hurt,how does she not know what winx did ?The people in season 3 episode 8 or 9 ,where sky drinks the potion from diaspro and is under her control ,people just believe that the winx are witches ,when everybody there should know that they are not ,they were royalties and high class people they should know who Stella is and Aisha ,like these things don't make sense to me .The father of sky have seen bloom and flora before in season2 ,i didn't see these things when i was 10 years old but now i am 20 and it hurts my brain.
When I was young, these were the type of things that I didn’t notice and didn’t mind. But when I rewatch these seasons it always blows my mind, the Winx are celebrities, heroes who saved the world many times, Stella Bloom and Aisha are literally princesses! How come people don’t recognize them? I understand that the writers want to put in conflict in but that simply isn’t the way to go.
I would have liked it to be a plot point explained in season 4 or 5 that the fairies of Earth had been disconnected from the conventional transformations. The fairies of Earth had their wings ripped off and so they don’t evolve properly, and when they grew back their wings were different too.
The pixie change really threw me off cuz what was that entire “fairies having a unique bond with pixie” thingy?? Also, y did only winx get pixies? Y not roxy, daphne or any other fairy at alfea?? Oh and y r there so less male fairies/wizards? The professors at alfea and nabu r the only ones I can think of rn…. This also made the specialists seem kinda useless at certain points cuz the winx can fly and do indirect attacks while they have to risk their safety and go near the enemy who would also just shoot an indirect attack at them like when sky lost his memory…
I don’t understand why they changed Digit just because she’s a boy in the spin off. Why change her gender there anyway and you could either switch the gender in season six or keep it like why does it matter so much. And I like Cara and Cherrie but like yeah Digit and Tune were bonded to Musa and Tecna already you can’t just switch their pixies especially when they did have a great bond already.
Male fairies exist in Winx, the only one seen on the planet Domino in The Secret of the Lost Kingdom and Magical Adventure. But at the same time, there is not one female wizard, only women fairies and witches.
I NEED TO SAY IT : only the first 3 seasons are relevant. Season 3 was to me the best of all seasons; the plot, transformations, atmosphere and villain. After that everything became pretty inconsistant. Even the first movie was full of incoherence. Even the designs were pretty deceiving afterwards. Season 4 was okay, but disappointing in so many ways. Enchantix is supposed to be the superior transformation but after Believix suddenly it becomes obsolete... From season 4, it seems to be just unnecessary melodrama just to stretch the story. Also, WHY DOES DIASPRO KEEP COMING BACK???? She was supposed to be banned but Miss Princess makes appearances just for drama. And most importantly WHO DO I HAVE TO STRANGLE FOR GIVING THAT NEW SHITTY HAIRCUT TO STUNNING LONG HAIR HELIA????!!!
The thing is Winx was supposed to end after the second movie as it was supposed to be premiered before season 4 BUT they directors decided to wait until season 4 ended and they added Believix to the movie just as an excuso to have "a new transformation" and as it always happens with things that become too popular " as long as it generates money they will exploit it"
Faragonda being a witch then in her later adulthood being a fairy that made alfea but rai/nick scraping that don't make sense :C (she mabey was a fairy first then a witch then a fairy again idk werry confiusing :P )
Witches, don't have transformations, they evolve their magic and the clothes of the trix are grupal outfits to show that they are sisters of the same coven
In season 1 it was supposed to be 5 years at Alfea, they should have stuck with that. Given job training or something. Also why are there no other enchantix fairies or bonded with pixies? Shouldn't Mirta have made progress by now?
@@kingdomorange2 season 8 should've bloom biological family,stella parents for a full season and aisha parents and 2 cousins and uncle and with the ruling monarchs of the other realms including the 3 heads of alfea,cloud tower and red fountain and maybe hagen and with nebula who is still regent for roxy until she coming of age and graduating from alfea which should be a season 8 sovereign council
I just rewatched season 1 yesterday and about the fairy godmother thing, Faragonda introduced herself as a former fairy godmother- now headmistress. So a theory I have is that a fairy later in life can choose what kind of fairy they become. Ex. Faragonda and Eldora both became fairy godmothers much like the ones in typical stories (like the ones bloom used to read on earth as a kid), most become guardians of some kind (bc of enchantix), and then there are the few ones who are like Daphne and become things like Nymphs in order to serve a specific purpose- even after death (as daphne was the nymph of Roccaluce lake to be the protector of Sirenix after she was killed by the ancient witches) this last one is less of a matter of them choosing personally but rather nature or ig fate that chooses for them.
I think all fairies can change whenever they want between their civilian and fairy forms, but since the Earth fairies are constantly prepared for battle and they need a way to be distinguished from the humans they are always in their fairy form. About what Aisha said in S2... That has been contradicted several times, even in the same season so I wouldn't take it into consideration.
totally off topic. but i lowkey feel like with Icy's backstory, they shoulda actually made a brief mention of it at the end of S5, when Bloom and Daphne are reunited after lifting the curse of sirenix, Icy witnesses this moment and we are met with a brief flashback of Icy and her lil sister and how she wishes she could reunite with Sapphire. This moment upsets Icy alot and tries to strike bloom and daphne with an ice bolt but misses then Darcy and Stormy drag Icy and flee the scene. that woulda been a perfect way to follow on that story in S8. but hey thats my opinion.
The Sky no longer being king thing is because before season 4 the winx actually aged during their time in Alfea. Getting Enchantix was supposed to be endgame and the final form for a guardian fairy and it was in their last year at alfea. Season 4/5 (one of them, I think it was S4 though) reverted all the time passing changes etc. and turned them into genereic non-aging characters that will always be just students at their respective schools.
It is weird that Sky is refered to as prince. Though it isn't weird that he became king while his father was still alive. A lot of monarchs abdicate before their death. In the Netherlands the last monarch to die while in office was al the way back in 1890 and that was only because his oldest child wasn't an adult yet.
Honestly, I didn't bother watching beyond season 4. The fairy transformations kept changing, there wasn't an end. And, I don't know, the essence of the show and the plot deviated so much from how it used to be originally that it didn't feel like I was watching the old cartoon I used to love as a little girl. Also, after they killed Nabu (one of my favorite characters) and hearing how they made Aisha enter a sucky love triangle shortly after? That was it for me. To me, Winx ended in season 4 with Nabu.
I find s4 tolerable but I did find the plethora of transformations annoying, no matter how cute the outfits were. The gifts of destiny and believix should've been upgraded charmix power ups. I will forever hate the fact that they nerfed Enchantix despite the amount of importance they put on it in S3. Also they should've used the Sirenix wish to bring Nabu back. Like Musa Didn't even used her wish and she's Aisha's best friend. So I can see her giving up her wish for Aisha.
I was watching earlier Winx episodes recently and Faragonda definitely says, as fairies age, they lose the ability to transform. Maybe that’s just in the 4Kids dub?
Im gonna say Bloomix did come from bloom. I think its probable that many different fairy forms where created the way bloom created hers. If this is the case then we can look at it more as Faragonda just sorta guessing what they need to do. Thats sorta my head cannon anyway.
Here’s what never made sense to me from Winx Club, how did the Trix escape from the Legendarium in season 7?! Like omg they never explained it at the end of season 7
Brafilius used the ultimate power of the fairy animals to summon the strongest ones, even if they weren't in the same universe. I figured they came out of the Legendarium World and the Trix tagged along.
A lot of these things, like sky going back to being a prince and the girls moving back into their dorm... it doesn't make sense because Nick is trying to age down the characters from being in their 20s to being teenagers again. They're trying to kiddify the show, and taking away Sky's role as King and making the girls students is just a lazy way to keep producing seasons without having to change the setting or the cliche high school bsery.
Enchantix is a fairies final form they will always have it Enchantix is a power that naturally gained if you remember all the powers after enchantix was "given" they didn't happen naturally like charmix or enchantix cause they are not transformations you would naturally possess only charmix and enchantix are very transformations that you naturally gain it's apart of them all the others was given to them so I was confused on why they didn't possess enchantix cause it's a fairies final form they should have still possessed it like in season 8 they automatically had it back along with sirenix even though they all lost that power because of Selena but cosmic basically brought it back somehow when it was literally a power that was so old no fairy could automatically claim it just like that But I feel like they should have still possessed enchantix throughout the show cause that's a fairy true form all the others was just forms they gained but was never their true form
Fun fact for me is that wouldn't Bloomix had to be the most powerful fairy form since it comes from the dragonflame? But somehow is not strong enough to fight some enemies...the hell
The thing of where why sky would be king cause his dad hasn’t died- well in my country our previous queen isn’t dead either yet her son became king- she just retired 🚶♀️
For the paladins, maybe using magic is only possible after a long training. If I can make this comparison, in HP we see the younger wizards using wands for every spells, and when they are way more experimented, they can choose not use one. Here maybe their weapons are like the wands, and that would explain why someone like Avalon doesn't need one anymore. However, the fact they chose to train with the specialist will definitely cut them from this way, and they will use more the weapons. For Faragonda, I remember people said she was a witch who chose to became a fairy. I know we saw Mirta in a fairy form but Mirta is the fairy/witch of illusions, so she can fake a transformation to be included more easily in Alfea because she's used to be bullied and probably doesn't want it to happen again. It could also explain why Faragonda was so clumsy and uncomfident, it's not easy to switch from witch magic to fairy's one. And it would explain why everyone is so hard on her. And for the pixies... I don't see how the fact Digit was now a male ( it would be a nice way to make a trans character in the show ) would change her/his/their bond with Tecna. It was just because Cara and Cherry's powers gave lot of "comical" situations to fill some episodes, when Digit was basically the same use as Tecna and while Tune... Uh what did she do except pointing a the fact not a single winx was polite ? They wanted pixies with a more useful side I guess.
i think there’s a few reasons for why a trans probably wouldn’t have worked back then. One of them is the fact that not a lot of trans people were on TV back then. but then again, I was a kid myself so I can’t really vouch that a lot of shows had trans people. The second thing about it is people who had kids back then were born in the 90s or earlier. so for them anything relating to the LGBTQ was a big no-no for them. Which ties into the last thing which is money and merchandise. I don’t know if they have pixie you merchandise but if there was a trans pixie, I’m sure those type of people back then I would’ve had a big no-no on lqbqt merchandise. (I mean this is just my take on it, considering how things were back then.)
My biggest question is Who in the hell thought of making girls barefoot in enchantix like they had perfectly fine boots in magic winx/charmix then they said flip that were making them barefoot with ropes on their legs
What freaked me out about that choice is that in some scenes, you can see their heels up, as if they are wearing heels... Freaked me out that it only happens at certain places. Also, I mostly noticed it with Stella...
nah i think it was pretty unique of them to do a transformation barefoot instead of constantly having every single transformation with boring heels as always. the only type of heels that would suit the enchantix transformation are those of butterflix. since they are a bit transparent, those would make a perfect fit.
In classic renditions of fairies they're barefooted. Not to mention it gives off an ethereal fairy vibe. However, admittedly the Enchantix dolls did have heels.
Some of what you said is actually true. I know, it never made sense to me either how the Winx just came back to alfea as students. And I hate that digit and tune were replaced :(
I love how to get Enchantix you literally have to DIE, but then to get Bloomix you have to do something just KINDA brave 😂 I mean I get it since Enchantix is like the final OFFICIAL form and everything else is optional but STILL
I love s1-6, 7 is okay and 8 is decent. They are amazing series. But the plot holes are a bit weird. Its still pretty enjoyable and its made for children who wouldn't think about stuff like this.
Bloom didn't get stuck she was close to getting stuck The movies and series didn't really match up Faragonda could transform but old age imagine how that would look and she didn't fight much
The thing Nickelodeon has ruined the most is change Musa and Tecna’s Pixies I really love Tune and Digit. It doesn’t make sense Tune and Digit have storyline since Season 2, 3, 4 Movie 1, 2 and They suddenly changed pixies, nowadays I hate those 2 pixies who replaced Tune and Digit and I don’t even remember their name, I’m quite prejudiced
The first movie was the perfect ending. The Winx graduated and became protectors of their home planets. They all have Encantix the FINAL form, a fairy can reach. Bloom's home planet was saved , she got reunited with her biological parents and was proposed by Sky. And she even got her Encantix complete and became a protector of her world too, which is the icing on the cake. For me the other seasons are uneccesary, because the first movie already concluded everything
I overanalyze everything and something that has been bugging me for about 10 years is the transformations. Where do they go while transforming? In an alternate dimension? Does time stop? Are they actively summoning the clothes? Do they hear the song playing in the background? Because Roxy, when she first transformed, didn't realize it until she looked at herself. Also why are they "naked" with some magical dust covering their bodies at the beginning of a transformation? Why don't their clothes just modify? Also during Harmonix era, that buff fish guy, that Icy has a crush on, Tritannus (?) needed oil to dirty the water to stay in that evil form. Huh? How does that even work? Oil isn't magical? Or am I remembering something wrong?
Something that I always thought that didn't make sense was that when the Winx got a new fairy form, they would loose the powers of the previous form. In one form they could choose different wings, that would make them fly fast or teleport. Why would those powers suddenly dissapear?
If Faragonda know about Bloomix, that mean it has happenned before, that the Dragon Flame was shared with other fairies. That should literally be their final form, what power could be greater than the one that created everything? the problem of winx is alas, a common problem, writters that have troubles keeping up the continuity and don't pay attention in the original lore in favor of their own ideas.
Bloomix…we’ll definitely comes from „to bloom“ powers within yourselves but it was such a bad execution- great design but done so bad haha also bloom had her dragon flame since the beginning - so why did she gain bloomix so late? She has done courage’s acts worthy of a fairy before so if anything, bloomix should have been her transformation after Enchantix but then again, season 6 tried to be season 3 so bad that it failed
They did explain why skys dad took over again, I just watched that episode. Its so Sky can go back to school and be with his friends cuz it was too much for him, thats why they still send people to grab him all the time cuz theres still decisions he has to be apart of as king.
Winx ended up being such a cash grab after season 5 mostly. It should have ended at enchantix yes i agree with that but i am also baised because I personally love season 5. After season 5 most ideas were gone they did earth, seas, elfea, the dark underworld. So it started with just making things up which dont make sense at all. I still was sort of okay with season 6 but comeone what is season 7 that is just weird and it doesnt make sense at all. And for what i saw the changes in the drawing style at season 8. seeing my favorite show change so much is weird but ill just stick with the older seasons and ignore the newer ones.
Honestly, nickelodeon ruined winx club and changed the plot to suit the stories they want like they made the fanbase hate Bloom, didn't hate her hate sky and the writers. Glad their getting their ass exposed
Where is Krystal’s dad? What The Name Of The Queen Of Melody and The Queen Of Zenith? Why r Tecna, Flora, Miele and Musa not Princess as a bunch of people feel that they should be?
For the pixie problem with Tecna and Digit, it doesn't even make sense that they change her with another one because she became a boy, it's still the same, as for Musa and Tune, it just doesn't make sense to change Tune with another one whatsoever, and one thing that no one seems to talk about is why don't the specialists and withces get pixies? I would love to see Riven have a pixie that scholds him when he is mean to Musa😭
I've just rewatched the first two seasons and can comfirm that it was never once explained why Faragonda does not transform. Perhaps some later seasons, but I don't recall anything like this from at least s3 and s4
Love this! I am at the point where I cannot enjoy most shows (looking at you, The Flash) because I keep overthinking things. Videos like yours make me realise I am not the only one overthinking things! However, I am trying to follow my mum's advice: "It's just a story. I watch it to not focus and think!" Trying to live by her advice so I can start watching my shows again. EDIT: Have you watched any of The Unicorn of War - Thomas Vaccaro's videos on The Winx? You guys have the same general problems with the series.
As someone who used to watch the 4Kids dub, I can only assume Aisha was named Layla for the sake of her having a name with the same amount of syllables as the main cast. That is the only reason I can think of.
I'm late to the party and probs someone already mentioned. There were Trademark issues with the name Aisha back in 2004 when Neopets was a popular website. That is why Rainbow came up with an alternative international name for Aisha. By the time Nickelodeon came along, the trade mark must not have been an issue anymore
Everything Winx related published after season 3 was just "Buy our toys!" advertisment... And the CGI parts always looked awful, same with the new animation style...
What I personally found really confusing was the fact that the Winx Club was kind of growing each season, their fairy forms either. Eg. : season 1 with little wings in short teeny dresses and stuff like that, season 6 with bigger wings and like more grown up clothes (if that makes sense). It was weird seeing the Winx in Butterflix with those childish dresses once again in season 8 (of course it fits the story but still…) Another fact I’ve never understood was Bloomix. When the Winx got those magic they were really powerful and strong. But if I remember correctly back in season 2 the Trix had a power named Bloomix too. Of course witch power and fairy power is different, but I think the Trix should have been stronger in the 2nd season than the Winx… it would make more sense if they would’ve won.
"But if i remember correctly back in season 2 the Trix had a power named Bloomix too" Actually the power that darkar gave to the trix was called Gloomix.
S8- icy trying to get powerful power to free her sister from a curse makes no sense. Seems like the storyline was created last minute because she could’ve used the ultimate power in Season 7
is it ever explained why Roxy's first fairy transformation looks like a simplified believix form? cuz it looks extremely different from the regular magic winx
I don't think so. But I have heard it's supposed to be an incomplete believix. Sorta like Bloom's incomplete Enchantix but they floundered it by not having Roxy experience the same things Bloom did from her incomplete form. Moreover, I like to think that Roxy's form is a basic fairy form but Earth fairies are the only fairy type that have large wings even at a base level.
Imagine if all of the Winx could share their powers with each other. Then you could have five more transformations alongside Bloomix. Stellix (eh), Florix, Musix, Tecnix, and Laylix(? Aishix doesn't sound good lol) it would also eliminate Butterflix (that's the nature one, right?) because instead, the girls could just share Flora's nature magic. Or heck, maybe even Roxyx instead of Butterflix
see my theory for layla/aisha is that in the cartoon they stop calling her layla after naboo died so my theory is that she doesn’t want to be called that since her love died calling her that
I've ALWAYS been confused about Sky's crown. Because...yea, after the lost kingdom movie--it just didn't make sense that he was demoted back to being a Prince.
In season 2 of Winx, Lord Darkar gave Trix a piece of dragon fire and told them that Bloomix's power had always protected them. In fact, they had powers thanks to Bloomix on the island where the spells did not work, and they hypnotized the animals. (look Winx season 2 episode 21 7:18) In this case Trix had Bloomix transform before Winx
Honestly, Winx to me is just the movies and season 1-4(and wow cuz it's a good show), as it had good writing and RAI was still involved, they were aimed at older kids like 11-15, the rest is just nickelodeon nonsense, things are just so jumbled, messy and kiddie season 5 and onward are to me just a different show altogether (poor Stella in those seasons she got bullied horrendously by the producers ' I know that it was a soft reboot'). Lastly, my theory for WOW, is that it starts a little bit after they meet Roxy and befriend her, just before everyone gets introduced to the magic in season 4. And as many people have said I also would have loved to see them use their old forms again in the show but nah wasted opportunity ( sorry if this is hard to understand I'm not from England, Canada, Australia, or the U.S)
IDK if this is true, but two rumors I heard regarding the name change was 1: they thought aisha was too hard for kids to say. 2: avoiding lawsuits with a singer who was also named aisha and looked like her. Again this is just rumors i heard.
Sky’s title as King is only honorary meaning he is The Crownless King meaning his Dad being The King Father is also a honorary title he is actually the Crown Prince and when he becomes The King and marries Bloom she will become The Queen
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I’m legit surprised you didn’t question the same five students being at Alfea for literally 18 years by this point.
They are there as teachers I think
Originally it takes a total of 5 years before you graduated from Alfea. However, due to the first movie, it got shortened to three years.
But I like to think the Winx graduated early, not only because they defeated Valtor but because any student that reaches Enchantix are given the option to graduate early. And the reason it takes 5 years is to give the students more time since not all of them are going to get Enchantix in the first try
In later seasons they call it Alfea College so it makes sense
@@natasa2995 It doesn’t explain backgrounders like Amaryl though 😂
Fun fact: apparently Faragonda used to be a witch before she became a fairy. And while this is interesting I don't think it was executed well. If anything I think it would've been awesome from a storytelling prospective.
Not to mention if mirta was given the screentime she deserved, the fact that Faragonda, one of the most respected fairies used to be a witch will be aspiring for her since if I remember correctly she had some trouble learning fairy magic at the beginning.
Being a witch or a fairy seems to be a choice, I wonder what happens if they have kids together
Where'd you hear this
@@monaalona4744 I heard it on various media platforms. I even went to the Winx fandom wiki page to see if it were true and I found it.
@@ceeford9919 Oh interesting
@@thegayghost872 Yeah that should have been added to the video of things that don’t make sense.
If this video is talking about things that don't make sense in Winx Club, it should be approximately 18x longer
ain't that the truth
Lol part 7 is coming March of 2023
it would be way more shorter to list the thing that MAKE sense
@@delireent.3960 then the video would have zero length
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I really wish that the writers had stuck to the idea of the girls being student teachers instead of cultural resetting them to full-on students, cause it would have made a lot of sense. I get they feared the girls being unreliable teachers cause they always come and go from Althea but them being student teacher kinda alleviates that problem cause their still learning and obviously Faragonda wants them at althea not just to teach but to help the universe. All it would have taken was a few extra bits of communication with the audience and changing of where the girls sat in class
This. Or they could have explained it more - like for example that they CAN attend another year, even after graduation if they feel they need to learn about a certain topic more, IF they really want to go the Stundentroute..
My theory for Faragonda and Griselda is that they’re just so old and experienced they don’t need to transform anymore
Sounds like a good exclamation. why transform to use a powerful spell when you could just hit them right there and then.
this is the right way of thinking!
I agree 😊
what aisha stated in season 2 was that fairies cannot stay transformed where they were, in the under realm, because of the amount of negative energy that affects their powers.
Going by the R.A.I. dub; she says young fairies can't maintain their transformations for too long. The implication being that it's a restriction they eventually grow out of. Both are probably true though.
She’s was probably right…I think with Enchantix they can remain in their transformation since they become true fairies
There‘s also the Halloween episode in season 2(?) where they stay transformed for the night and feel weak afterwards, which prompts Aisha to explain the same thing.
I personally would've LOVED if the winx would always go back to their enchantix form after a certain mission, just like it was shown at the end of season4. They went back to it after their mission on earth was finished. Guess nickelodeon messed that up
Dickelodeon sucks!
True, since it was their final form. I just head cannon that enchantix is the main and most powerful form and the other ones are additions that only stay for fairies to do their job
@@emilyrose3490
So true.
Did the winx go back to Enchantix at the end of season 4? I couldn't find the conversation or the transformation. Could you tell me at which episode did they refer it.
@@uguryldrm9060 well, in one of the comic that actually took place after season 4, they were seen in their Enchantix form
About the Sky being king thingy: The ruling king or queen does not have to die in order for their child to take over. Here in Belgium, our ruling kings have stepped down (aka retired) a lot of the time. So it does make sense that way, but changing it back isn't really... A thing so idk why they did that 😅
Maybe it was a temporary thing ? Like Stella was Queen for a day.
That make sense as I though his dad was probably sick and retired and then got better or he retired but being the asshole he is unretired
@@bunnywar but that’s usually called a regent king/queen and everybody is aware that they are just a stand in for someone unable to claim the throne due to being to young or other weird political stuff. They are treated as a placeholder ruler.
@@bunnywar what I mean is, it doesn’t happen for no reason.
He unretired himself because he was sick of Sky shirking on his duties as King.
I feel there’s so much potential for Rainbow to make some spin-off series. I’m interested in the Winx’s parents. Especially Domino’s history with the nymphs and the company of light. Also, Queen Morgana and their fight against the Wizards of the Black Circle. Would be cool if they showed the origin and how they gained immunity.
honestly i would kill to see how domino fall and how was life before that
The whole thing with the transformations and the continuity errors after season 4 is basically because they did a soft reboot in season 5. Basically, they made them younger again just so they could continue to make the show for children instead of maturing with the already existing fanbase. This is why most people our age absolutely hate everything after season 4 since this basically shot themselves in the leg, trying to cater for younger audiences. This is also why season 8 looks as dumb as it does and why they scrap all seasons 1 through 8 altogether to make season 9 start at the beginning again with their basic fairy forms as shown in promotional material for the next season.
Why they didn't just make a "new" Winx club for kids and continue on the mature path they were hinting at at the end of season 4 will forever be a mystery (it's probably cause of *money*)
What I find super funny is the fact that they write the seasons like all the stuff of the former ones happened but without any of the consequences that would exist with everything that happened. They are basically doing a Winx Brexit lmao
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There's a season 9?
@@panpan9861 sadly there will be one coming next year I believe
Seasons 6&7 are practically a joke to me tho, I mean, even if we somehow ignore the atrocious new art style, that by the way is very hard to ignore since it practically kills the original magic of the series and makes it lose all its individuality, it makes me even more sad to realize that i can't even try to get into it because the story is so....boring..i mean...that is like , what? Baby tv material ? From a show that used to be interesting to teenagers? Cmon!!
@@radostinaantova9502 Wo!
bloom was able to escape from the legendarium, because it hadn't been that long, she was about to get stuck as she was almost completely drawn, in the pages of the book, but she still had a few minutes to get out, this is an official answer.
There is also confusion about mermaids in Winx world. In season 3 there only excited female mermaids but in season 5 mermans were introduced suddenly. Writers didn't explained why mermans were absent in season 3, I mean, it's cool to have male mermaids and to explain how mermaids reproduce but there was no hint or mention of merman in earlier seasons. They just appeared out of nowhere.
Trittanius is a merman?
@@fatihkantekin757 yes he is
P.S. I forgot to metion that Daphne being nymph of sirenix doesn't make sense. If Domino is kingdom of dragon fire why is Daphne is having aquatic powers?
@@bozanapetrovic8759 Simple, your elemental powers. She almost always says an element before using any Sirenix spells. Possibly in Winx being a nymph can let you use various elements.
@@bozanapetrovic8759 Sirenix itself is an aquatic based fairy form and we have to keep in mind that Daphne is a nymph not a fairy like Bloom which a very high tier for magical beings like them and it might explain why she's almost like a demigoddess as her powers can be very versatile though I really don't like how she was portrayed so weak in S5 when she was so mystical in the first 3 seasons 😭
@@swirl..9727 I just realized creators of Winx never told us deference between fairy and nymph and how to become one
The swap of Tune & Digit for Cherie & Cara (aka Caramel) was mostly to introduce the PopPixie series in the US market.
The change of genre for Digit isn't for something because we ACTUALLY see Digit and Tune in their Winx Club series form in the episode 24 of Season 6. So the introduction of Cherie and Caramel in Winx Club Season 6 has no sense at all. Plus, their personalities have been softened and washed to be as boring as the other Pixies in Seasons 6 & 7.
Exactly and I loved Tune and Digit!!
If they really wanted to add Chérie And caramel, I wish they handled it better.
Imagine : Musa And Tecna meet Chérie And Caramel at the Begining of Season 6 and can't wait to see again Tune And Digit. But they're trapped in the legendarium with the other Pixies And Musa And Tecna are Desperate to not know where they are And do What they Can to look for them for the entire Season. (They Can Even have a fight about the way to do and gain their bloomix by resolving this, it would have more emotional impact) And during this Season, they Bond with Chérie And Caramel because they decided to help them And they get to Know each other. At the end of the Season, they managed to find Tune And Digit And they both bonded with two Pixies !!
This is the Bad thing with Season 6. They have tons of good Idea but they handled it in a lazy And childlish way without thinking about the accuracy of what they made before And without thinking about their huge fandom
@@delireent.3960 they could have had Mirta and Roxy bond with pixies
I personally think that there is still no need to just scrap Digit and Tune. They could have introduced Cherie and Caramel as bonded pixies for Daphne and Roxy.
Didn’t the vc for Tune retire or die?
I hate how the Winx transformation outfits became less on theme for their own individual power and just became the same outfits or similar outfits for all of them with less details with the only difference being a color palette swatch. I loved how unique Tecna's Winx at the season 1-3 eras were. The plot became hot ass, they could've atleast made them nicer to look at
I don't remember if you talk about this in your first video, but to me something that never made sense is the fact that Darkar its supposed to be a divine creature, just like the dragon, but its seems way weaker than the other villains that the winx club had.
I think it might have something to just do with him being written before the others idk he was pretty weak wasn’t he?
That's because the writers don't know how to write a distant villain
@@kingdomorange2 The writers tried to do a distant villain but failed. The concept of the distant villian is that it's a villain detached from his foes, most of the time he stays passive and lets his minions do his bidding but when he becomes active he literally is one of the most powerful characters in the story. There are two mistakes you should never do while writing this kind of villain 1) Letting them stay too passive: This will cause the audience to forget the villains existence and cause him to lose his importence 2) Making them underpowered: This will cause the villian to look like a joke and ruin the ultimate climax of the story, the final battle. The writers made darkar both underpowered and too passive
Actually darkar was one of the most scary villains in all of the series…he just works in the shadows
Darkar would have won if not for Sky and his love for Bloom.
Another thing that doesn't make sense: If for the Winx to gain Believix they would need to make a human (or half-human) believe in magic, what species are Bloom's adoptive parents?
Right? Apparently those two were just not enough
(I suddenly got W.I.T.C.H. vibes from your question though xD)
Indeed. That's a good point
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could the reason the winx/bloom didn't get believix when they made mike and vanessa believe in fairies be because they didn't have their enchantix powers yet? like it could be that they can't gain any of the 'infinate transformations' (like believix and sirenix and harmonix etc) until they've reached the final fairy form/enchantix? that could explain it 😅
@@gremlin07 Yeah but theres an official DVD that says that don't need Enchantix or Charmix to get Believix
I still wonder why it took bloom so long to get bloomix. Sure I do understand the writers didnt thought about bloomix until that season but thats a boring answer. Bloom showed so many 'true fairy' moments in the show so after she got her true enchantix she should have been able to get her bloomix right?
Also why are flora and her sister on two different fairy schools? Wouldnt it be easier for flora to go to the school at her own planet? Or miele to go to the 'best fairyschool already?
Honestly, I was so excited when they announced season four because Winx was my favorite show as a child and I was so sad that it ended after the movie. But little did I know that the storyline would get ruined and dumbed down so it could be targeted at a younger demographic. They definitely should've ended after the first animated movie or at least not recycled the premise of the first season only with a different location.
I'd say all fairies are capable of transformation magic, some simply stay in their fairy form because of tradition like the earth fairies or Arcadia. Maybe it's been to show of your status as a fully grown fairy and being prowd of what you are back in the days.
Faragonda and Griselda maybe don't transform to show their students that they can be powerful even without transforming and that a fairy has much more abilities than they think.
Also Aisha/Layla was talking about charmix fairies who are not fully grown fairies. As Enchantix they never struggled with their Transformation, except when they were in the Omega dimension and even there Stella managed to stay transformed after she almost used up all her magic.
Aisha was always her name in italian production. Gladis was the first changed name 4kids brought up before Layla, that's why this information was only seen in the mattel prototype doll box, seen that their boxes written were based by the 4kids dub.
@PuffySnack
It was Rai change to the name Layla, not 4Kids.
@@sagittariusseiya8310 4kids was the first Company to do an english dub for Winx, so it was actually them. The Cinelume Dub( called Rai english dub by the fans) just kept Layla, but this was the only changed they've made. 4kids was famous for doing changes liked that, they changed the meaning of Winx, they made Musa a princess, Domino was called Sparks, Andros was called Tides, Valtor was Baltor and so on.
Gladis was her prototype name, it was never really used neither in toys or in the series actually.
@@imafolklorestan
But still, Rai call Layla not 4Kids.
I don't know, maybe it just me.
@@imafolklorestan
The reason why it's called Sparks is because of Yu Gi Oh called Domino City, that's why. Tides is because of Sea of Andros and Melody to Harmonic realm is a nice name, Linphea to Marigold realm and Zenith to Binary realm.
the legendarium has a bigger issue in my opinion ,the pixies which were trapeed there from the tree trolls should have never be able to escape,they were traped there for almost the whole session.Something that has irritated me for quite a while is the strange way of writing side charecters atleast for me,in many sessions winx aren't treated like saviours ,many people don't give them enough respect although they have saved the magick universe many times,example the students in alfea in season 4 said that winx were show-offs and she put the bomb and flora got hurt,how does she not know what winx did ?The people in season 3 episode 8 or 9 ,where sky drinks the potion from diaspro and is under her control ,people just believe that the winx are witches ,when everybody there should know that they are not ,they were royalties and high class people they should know who Stella is and Aisha ,like these things don't make sense to me .The father of sky have seen bloom and flora before in season2 ,i didn't see these things when i was 10 years old but now i am 20 and it hurts my brain.
When I was young, these were the type of things that I didn’t notice and didn’t mind. But when I rewatch these seasons it always blows my mind, the Winx are celebrities, heroes who saved the world many times, Stella Bloom and Aisha are literally princesses! How come people don’t recognize them? I understand that the writers want to put in conflict in but that simply isn’t the way to go.
I would have liked it to be a plot point explained in season 4 or 5 that the fairies of Earth had been disconnected from the conventional transformations.
The fairies of Earth had their wings ripped off and so they don’t evolve properly, and when they grew back their wings were different too.
The pixie change really threw me off cuz what was that entire “fairies having a unique bond with pixie” thingy?? Also, y did only winx get pixies? Y not roxy, daphne or any other fairy at alfea??
Oh and y r there so less male fairies/wizards? The professors at alfea and nabu r the only ones I can think of rn…. This also made the specialists seem kinda useless at certain points cuz the winx can fly and do indirect attacks while they have to risk their safety and go near the enemy who would also just shoot an indirect attack at them like when sky lost his memory…
I don’t understand why they changed Digit just because she’s a boy in the spin off. Why change her gender there anyway and you could either switch the gender in season six or keep it like why does it matter so much. And I like Cara and Cherrie but like yeah Digit and Tune were bonded to Musa and Tecna already you can’t just switch their pixies especially when they did have a great bond already.
Also yeah Roxy was promised a pixie but it was never brought up
Male fairies exist in Winx, the only one seen on the planet Domino in The Secret of the Lost Kingdom and Magical Adventure. But at the same time, there is not one female wizard, only women fairies and witches.
@@riasakot8448 Isn't wizard just the male word of witch? Like, it's the same thing, isn't it?
@@myra0224 But most of them don't not use dark magic. Therefore, I think that wizards and witches are not the same thing.
4:28 “fairies”
This dude really just said the main attraction of Winx club don’t make sense.
I honestly agree
I NEED TO SAY IT : only the first 3 seasons are relevant. Season 3 was to me the best of all seasons; the plot, transformations, atmosphere and villain. After that everything became pretty inconsistant. Even the first movie was full of incoherence. Even the designs were pretty deceiving afterwards. Season 4 was okay, but disappointing in so many ways. Enchantix is supposed to be the superior transformation but after Believix suddenly it becomes obsolete... From season 4, it seems to be just unnecessary melodrama just to stretch the story. Also, WHY DOES DIASPRO KEEP COMING BACK???? She was supposed to be banned but Miss Princess makes appearances just for drama. And most importantly WHO DO I HAVE TO STRANGLE FOR GIVING THAT NEW SHITTY HAIRCUT TO STUNNING LONG HAIR HELIA????!!!
The thing is Winx was supposed to end after the second movie as it was supposed to be premiered before season 4 BUT they directors decided to wait until season 4 ended and they added Believix to the movie just as an excuso to have "a new transformation" and as it always happens with things that become too popular " as long as it generates money they will exploit it"
Can we talk about daphne marrying sky’s cousin like did he have to be skys cousin
Faragonda being a witch then in her later adulthood being a fairy that made alfea but rai/nick scraping that don't make sense :C (she mabey was a fairy first then a witch then a fairy again idk werry confiusing :P )
Witches, don't have transformations, they evolve their magic and the clothes of the trix are grupal outfits to show that they are sisters of the same coven
In season 1 it was supposed to be 5 years at Alfea, they should have stuck with that. Given job training or something. Also why are there no other enchantix fairies or bonded with pixies? Shouldn't Mirta have made progress by now?
6:27 when I was a kid and I saw that episode for the first time, I thought faragonda's nightgown was her transformation outfit 💀💀💀
lol faragonda is the fairy of sleep
@@kingdomorange2 but, I do imagine faragonda's transformation outfit to have fur on it!
@@kingdomorange2 season 8 should've bloom biological family,stella parents for a full season and aisha parents and 2 cousins and uncle and with the ruling monarchs of the other realms including the 3 heads of alfea,cloud tower and red fountain and maybe hagen and with nebula who is still regent for roxy until she coming of age and graduating from alfea which should be a season 8 sovereign council
I just rewatched season 1 yesterday and about the fairy godmother thing, Faragonda introduced herself as a former fairy godmother- now headmistress. So a theory I have is that a fairy later in life can choose what kind of fairy they become. Ex. Faragonda and Eldora both became fairy godmothers much like the ones in typical stories (like the ones bloom used to read on earth as a kid), most become guardians of some kind (bc of enchantix), and then there are the few ones who are like Daphne and become things like Nymphs in order to serve a specific purpose- even after death (as daphne was the nymph of Roccaluce lake to be the protector of Sirenix after she was killed by the ancient witches) this last one is less of a matter of them choosing personally but rather nature or ig fate that chooses for them.
I think all fairies can change whenever they want between their civilian and fairy forms, but since the Earth fairies are constantly prepared for battle and they need a way to be distinguished from the humans they are always in their fairy form. About what Aisha said in S2... That has been contradicted several times, even in the same season so I wouldn't take it into consideration.
The students watching the winx getting new transformation while their stuck in their first one
totally off topic. but i lowkey feel like with Icy's backstory, they shoulda actually made a brief mention of it at the end of S5, when Bloom and Daphne are reunited after lifting the curse of sirenix, Icy witnesses this moment and we are met with a brief flashback of Icy and her lil sister and how she wishes she could reunite with Sapphire. This moment upsets Icy alot and tries to strike bloom and daphne with an ice bolt but misses then Darcy and Stormy drag Icy and flee the scene. that woulda been a perfect way to follow on that story in S8. but hey thats my opinion.
1:33 can we talk about the layering issues and the fact that only Tecna, Bloom, and possible Flora are holding the correct wands?
That is Flora’s wand, but yeah, that frame got 4 of their wands wrong.
One of the things I like of the Live Action adaptation is that they got rid of all the different categories and everyone is just a fairy there
And male fairies was a nice touch too
The Sky no longer being king thing is because before season 4 the winx actually aged during their time in Alfea. Getting Enchantix was supposed to be endgame and the final form for a guardian fairy and it was in their last year at alfea.
Season 4/5 (one of them, I think it was S4 though) reverted all the time passing changes etc. and turned them into genereic non-aging characters that will always be just students at their respective schools.
It is weird that Sky is refered to as prince.
Though it isn't weird that he became king while his father was still alive.
A lot of monarchs abdicate before their death.
In the Netherlands the last monarch to die while in office was al the way back in 1890 and that was only because his oldest child wasn't an adult yet.
Lets just say that Nickelodeon ruined this show.
They ruined it after season 5 because season 5 was fine
Season 1-7 Icy and her sisters didn't deserve to be redeemed. Season 8 Trix is a retcon and a different personality.
Honestly, I didn't bother watching beyond season 4. The fairy transformations kept changing, there wasn't an end. And, I don't know, the essence of the show and the plot deviated so much from how it used to be originally that it didn't feel like I was watching the old cartoon I used to love as a little girl.
Also, after they killed Nabu (one of my favorite characters) and hearing how they made Aisha enter a sucky love triangle shortly after? That was it for me. To me, Winx ended in season 4 with Nabu.
I find s4 tolerable but I did find the plethora of transformations annoying, no matter how cute the outfits were. The gifts of destiny and believix should've been upgraded charmix power ups.
I will forever hate the fact that they nerfed Enchantix despite the amount of importance they put on it in S3.
Also they should've used the Sirenix wish to bring Nabu back. Like Musa Didn't even used her wish and she's Aisha's best friend. So I can see her giving up her wish for Aisha.
I was watching earlier Winx episodes recently and Faragonda definitely says, as fairies age, they lose the ability to transform. Maybe that’s just in the 4Kids dub?
Im gonna say Bloomix did come from bloom. I think its probable that many different fairy forms where created the way bloom created hers. If this is the case then we can look at it more as Faragonda just sorta guessing what they need to do. Thats sorta my head cannon anyway.
Here’s what never made sense to me from Winx Club, how did the Trix escape from the Legendarium in season 7?! Like omg they never explained it at the end of season 7
Brafilius used the ultimate power of the fairy animals to summon the strongest ones, even if they weren't in the same universe. I figured they came out of the Legendarium World and the Trix tagged along.
I always thought Aisha‘s name was changed to Layla because it’s a little difficult to pronounce in other languages
Aisha Original name is Aisha , 4Kids Change to Layla
Rai change to Layla not 4Kids.
A lot of these things, like sky going back to being a prince and the girls moving back into their dorm... it doesn't make sense because Nick is trying to age down the characters from being in their 20s to being teenagers again. They're trying to kiddify the show, and taking away Sky's role as King and making the girls students is just a lazy way to keep producing seasons without having to change the setting or the cliche high school bsery.
Enchantix is a fairies final form they will always have it
Enchantix is a power that naturally gained if you remember all the powers after enchantix was "given" they didn't happen naturally like charmix or enchantix cause they are not transformations you would naturally possess only charmix and enchantix are very transformations that you naturally gain it's apart of them all the others was given to them so I was confused on why they didn't possess enchantix cause it's a fairies final form they should have still possessed it like in season 8 they automatically had it back along with sirenix even though they all lost that power because of Selena but cosmic basically brought it back somehow when it was literally a power that was so old no fairy could automatically claim it just like that
But I feel like they should have still possessed enchantix throughout the show cause that's a fairy true form all the others was just forms they gained but was never their true form
I used to only had a few confusions but I never realised how messy the whole show was💀
Fun fact for me is that wouldn't Bloomix had to be the most powerful fairy form since it comes from the dragonflame? But somehow is not strong enough to fight some enemies...the hell
The thing of where why sky would be king cause his dad hasn’t died- well in my country our previous queen isn’t dead either yet her son became king- she just retired 🚶♀️
For the paladins, maybe using magic is only possible after a long training. If I can make this comparison, in HP we see the younger wizards using wands for every spells, and when they are way more experimented, they can choose not use one. Here maybe their weapons are like the wands, and that would explain why someone like Avalon doesn't need one anymore. However, the fact they chose to train with the specialist will definitely cut them from this way, and they will use more the weapons.
For Faragonda, I remember people said she was a witch who chose to became a fairy. I know we saw Mirta in a fairy form but Mirta is the fairy/witch of illusions, so she can fake a transformation to be included more easily in Alfea because she's used to be bullied and probably doesn't want it to happen again. It could also explain why Faragonda was so clumsy and uncomfident, it's not easy to switch from witch magic to fairy's one. And it would explain why everyone is so hard on her.
And for the pixies... I don't see how the fact Digit was now a male ( it would be a nice way to make a trans character in the show ) would change her/his/their bond with Tecna. It was just because Cara and Cherry's powers gave lot of "comical" situations to fill some episodes, when Digit was basically the same use as Tecna and while Tune... Uh what did she do except pointing a the fact not a single winx was polite ? They wanted pixies with a more useful side I guess.
i think there’s a few reasons for why a trans probably wouldn’t have worked back then. One of them is the fact that not a lot of trans people were on TV back then. but then again, I was a kid myself so I can’t really vouch that a lot of shows had trans people.
The second thing about it is people who had kids back then were born in the 90s or earlier. so for them anything relating to the LGBTQ was a big no-no for them.
Which ties into the last thing which is money and merchandise. I don’t know if they have pixie you merchandise but if there was a trans pixie, I’m sure those type of people back then I would’ve had a big no-no on lqbqt merchandise. (I mean this is just my take on it, considering how things were back then.)
My biggest question is
Who in the hell thought of making girls barefoot in enchantix like they had perfectly fine boots in magic winx/charmix then they said flip that were making them barefoot with ropes on their legs
What freaked me out about that choice is that in some scenes, you can see their heels up, as if they are wearing heels... Freaked me out that it only happens at certain places. Also, I mostly noticed it with Stella...
nah i think it was pretty unique of them to do a transformation barefoot instead of constantly having every single transformation with boring heels as always. the only type of heels that would suit the enchantix transformation are those of butterflix. since they are a bit transparent, those would make a perfect fit.
In classic renditions of fairies they're barefooted. Not to mention it gives off an ethereal fairy vibe. However, admittedly the Enchantix dolls did have heels.
Some of what you said is actually true. I know, it never made sense to me either how the Winx just came back to alfea as students. And I hate that digit and tune were replaced :(
I love how to get Enchantix you literally have to DIE, but then to get Bloomix you have to do something just KINDA brave 😂
I mean I get it since Enchantix is like the final OFFICIAL form and everything else is optional but STILL
Winx Club would never become this mess if it wasn't popular
True
Bloomix was meant to get the Winx back on track and didn’t have a specific purpose
I love s1-6, 7 is okay and 8 is decent. They are amazing series. But the plot holes are a bit weird. Its still pretty enjoyable and its made for children who wouldn't think about stuff like this.
Literally after Enchantix, the only transformations that are cute or matter are Believix, Harmonix, and Sirenix.
Here a question- if Stella was in Alfea for 3-4 years or something like that are u just telling me she never learned about Charmix, Enchantix like how
Bloom didn't get stuck she was close to getting stuck
The movies and series didn't really match up
Faragonda could transform but old age imagine how that would look and she didn't fight much
The thing Nickelodeon has ruined the most is change Musa and Tecna’s Pixies I really love Tune and Digit. It doesn’t make sense Tune and Digit have storyline since Season 2, 3, 4 Movie 1, 2 and They suddenly changed pixies, nowadays I hate those 2 pixies who replaced Tune and Digit and I don’t even remember their name, I’m quite prejudiced
The first movie was the perfect ending. The Winx graduated and became protectors of their home planets. They all have Encantix the FINAL form, a fairy can reach. Bloom's home planet was saved , she got reunited with her biological parents and was proposed by Sky. And she even got her Encantix complete and became a protector of her world too, which is the icing on the cake. For me the other seasons are uneccesary, because the first movie already concluded everything
I overanalyze everything and something that has been bugging me for about 10 years is the transformations. Where do they go while transforming? In an alternate dimension? Does time stop? Are they actively summoning the clothes? Do they hear the song playing in the background? Because Roxy, when she first transformed, didn't realize it until she looked at herself. Also why are they "naked" with some magical dust covering their bodies at the beginning of a transformation? Why don't their clothes just modify? Also during Harmonix era, that buff fish guy, that Icy has a crush on, Tritannus (?) needed oil to dirty the water to stay in that evil form. Huh? How does that even work? Oil isn't magical? Or am I remembering something wrong?
you have too much time xD
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Something that I always thought that didn't make sense was that when the Winx got a new fairy form, they would loose the powers of the previous form. In one form they could choose different wings, that would make them fly fast or teleport. Why would those powers suddenly dissapear?
If Faragonda know about Bloomix, that mean it has happenned before, that the Dragon Flame was shared with other fairies. That should literally be their final form, what power could be greater than the one that created everything?
the problem of winx is alas, a common problem, writters that have troubles keeping up the continuity and don't pay attention in the original lore in favor of their own ideas.
I think winx club should never stop I love it so much and I want more movies!
Well it would be odd and out of place if Bloom still had Sirenix late into the season while the rest had Bloomix. It would get old.
Bloomix…we’ll definitely comes from „to bloom“ powers within yourselves but it was such a bad execution- great design but done so bad haha also bloom had her dragon flame since the beginning - so why did she gain bloomix so late? She has done courage’s acts worthy of a fairy before so if anything, bloomix should have been her transformation after Enchantix but then again, season 6 tried to be season 3 so bad that it failed
They did explain why skys dad took over again, I just watched that episode. Its so Sky can go back to school and be with his friends cuz it was too much for him, thats why they still send people to grab him all the time cuz theres still decisions he has to be apart of as king.
I personally think that they should have ended winx at season 5-6. I love season 7 but it feels more like the pixies became animals instead
I wish other students at alfea were able to obtain the other transformations like the winx
Winx ended up being such a cash grab after season 5 mostly. It should have ended at enchantix yes i agree with that but i am also baised because I personally love season 5. After season 5 most ideas were gone they did earth, seas, elfea, the dark underworld. So it started with just making things up which dont make sense at all. I still was sort of okay with season 6 but comeone what is season 7 that is just weird and it doesnt make sense at all. And for what i saw the changes in the drawing style at season 8. seeing my favorite show change so much is weird but ill just stick with the older seasons and ignore the newer ones.
Honestly, nickelodeon ruined winx club and changed the plot to suit the stories they want like they made the fanbase hate Bloom, didn't hate her hate sky and the writers.
Glad their getting their ass exposed
Where is Krystal’s dad? What The Name Of The Queen Of Melody and The Queen Of Zenith? Why r Tecna, Flora, Miele and Musa not Princess as a bunch of people feel that they should be?
I actually really liked the nick dub but I stop watching when season 6 came out
For the pixie problem with Tecna and Digit, it doesn't even make sense that they change her with another one because she became a boy, it's still the same, as for Musa and Tune, it just doesn't make sense to change Tune with another one whatsoever, and one thing that no one seems to talk about is why don't the specialists and withces get pixies? I would love to see Riven have a pixie that scholds him when he is mean to Musa😭
I've just rewatched the first two seasons and can comfirm that it was never once explained why Faragonda does not transform. Perhaps some later seasons, but I don't recall anything like this from at least s3 and s4
Love this! I am at the point where I cannot enjoy most shows (looking at you, The Flash) because I keep overthinking things. Videos like yours make me realise I am not the only one overthinking things! However, I am trying to follow my mum's advice: "It's just a story. I watch it to not focus and think!" Trying to live by her advice so I can start watching my shows again.
EDIT: Have you watched any of The Unicorn of War - Thomas Vaccaro's videos on The Winx? You guys have the same general problems with the series.
As someone who used to watch the 4Kids dub, I can only assume Aisha was named Layla for the sake of her having a name with the same amount of syllables as the main cast.
That is the only reason I can think of.
I'm late to the party and probs someone already mentioned. There were Trademark issues with the name Aisha back in 2004 when Neopets was a popular website. That is why Rainbow came up with an alternative international name for Aisha. By the time Nickelodeon came along, the trade mark must not have been an issue anymore
That’s very interesting thank u for the information
I am suprised i am the only one who sees this but wtf are Sky and Bloom doing in 8:18
Everything Winx related published after season 3 was just "Buy our toys!" advertisment...
And the CGI parts always looked awful, same with the new animation style...
What I personally found really confusing was the fact that the Winx Club was kind of growing each season, their fairy forms either. Eg. : season 1 with little wings in short teeny dresses and stuff like that, season 6 with bigger wings and like more grown up clothes (if that makes sense). It was weird seeing the Winx in Butterflix with those childish dresses once again in season 8 (of course it fits the story but still…)
Another fact I’ve never understood was Bloomix. When the Winx got those magic they were really powerful and strong. But if I remember correctly back in season 2 the Trix had a power named Bloomix too. Of course witch power and fairy power is different, but I think the Trix should have been stronger in the 2nd season than the Winx… it would make more sense if they would’ve won.
"But if i remember correctly back in season 2 the Trix had a power named Bloomix too"
Actually the power that darkar gave to the trix was called Gloomix.
@@lj3830 oh I didn’t know, thank you 😂
S8- icy trying to get powerful power to free her sister from a curse makes no sense. Seems like the storyline was created last minute because she could’ve used the ultimate power in Season 7
is it ever explained why Roxy's first fairy transformation looks like a simplified believix form? cuz it looks extremely different from the regular magic winx
I don't think so. But I have heard it's supposed to be an incomplete believix. Sorta like Bloom's incomplete Enchantix but they floundered it by not having Roxy experience the same things Bloom did from her incomplete form.
Moreover, I like to think that Roxy's form is a basic fairy form but Earth fairies are the only fairy type that have large wings even at a base level.
Imagine if all of the Winx could share their powers with each other. Then you could have five more transformations alongside Bloomix. Stellix (eh), Florix, Musix, Tecnix, and Laylix(? Aishix doesn't sound good lol) it would also eliminate Butterflix (that's the nature one, right?) because instead, the girls could just share Flora's nature magic. Or heck, maybe even Roxyx instead of Butterflix
see my theory for layla/aisha is that in the cartoon they stop calling her layla after naboo died so my theory is that she doesn’t want to be called that since her love died calling her that
I never understood why bloom was their bands lead singer when MUSA IS THE FREAKING GUARDIAN FAIRY OF MUSIC
I've ALWAYS been confused about Sky's crown. Because...yea, after the lost kingdom movie--it just didn't make sense that he was demoted back to being a Prince.
I like to think Erendor got fed up with Sky shirking on his duties in S4. So he demoted him back to a prince for the time being.
This video is sooo great! You always amaze me. And thank you so much for including some of my thoughts I told you about under part 1
Thank you so much Guido!
Aisha was aprently her orignal name but was changed to layla in most english dubs so it was "easier for english speaking kids to say"
That's the dumbest reason they could have given ever. Not to mention insulting.
In season 2 of Winx, Lord Darkar gave Trix a piece of dragon fire and told them that Bloomix's power had always protected them. In fact, they had powers thanks to Bloomix on the island where the spells did not work, and they hypnotized the animals. (look Winx season 2 episode 21 7:18) In this case Trix had Bloomix transform before Winx
It's gloomix I guess not bloomix and darkar doesn't have dragon fire he is just an entity who is the opposite of the great dragon
Darkar is the opposite of the dragon flame he is the phoenix and its gloomix not bloomix
@@hannz_bananz Since I watched Winx in another language until now, it was translated as bloomix, not gloomix, so I knew it as bloomix
boy when i tell you the winx in the comic books have fruit and color transformations😭
Honestly, Winx to me is just the movies and season 1-4(and wow cuz it's a good show), as it had good writing and RAI was still involved, they were aimed at older kids like 11-15, the rest is just nickelodeon nonsense, things are just so jumbled, messy and kiddie season 5 and onward are to me just a different show altogether (poor Stella in those seasons she got bullied horrendously by the producers ' I know that it was a soft reboot').
Lastly, my theory for WOW, is that it starts a little bit after they meet Roxy and befriend her, just before everyone gets introduced to the magic in season 4. And as many people have said I also would have loved to see them use their old forms again in the show but nah wasted opportunity ( sorry if this is hard to understand I'm not from England, Canada, Australia, or the U.S)
imagine if nex and thoren had wings and magic bitch i wouldve been gagging over them every time they appeared on the screen
IDK if this is true, but two rumors I heard regarding the name change was 1: they thought aisha was too hard for kids to say. 2: avoiding lawsuits with a singer who was also named aisha and looked like her. Again this is just rumors i heard.
Sky’s title as King is only honorary meaning he is The Crownless King meaning his Dad being The King Father is also a honorary title he is actually the Crown Prince and when he becomes The King and marries Bloom she will become The Queen
The fact that magical beings can choose to be witches or fairies and end up having powers of the desired type instead of being destined like the winx