I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Civic Touring sedan in January. It’s an automatic, 1.5 turbo w/CVT. Honda has gone back to their design roots. The 11th gen design is just beautiful. I love the understated, polished exterior and semi-luxury interior. Mine is meteorite metallic gray with a two-tone black/gray interior (but looks ivory to me). It was definitely pricey for a Civic but I’m super happy with it. Understated yet very classy, with Honda reliability.
I'm a long time civic fan and owner. Had the 9th gen hybrid, 10th gen sport hatch. Me and my partner are about to get a sport touring hatch and we're super excited we test drove it and loved everything
I love my sport touring! I have the pearl white with the grey interior. I definitely think that the lighter interior makes it feel much brighter and classier of an interior. I have had no issues with anything and everything looks awesome. I have gotten 39 MPG with the CVT on the highway, very impressive!
Honda CVT's actually do not suck. In fact (with proper maintenance), Honda's present-day CVT's have proven to be even more reliable than not only their early CVT's, but also their conventional automatic transmissions. Like Toyota, Honda has good engineers who learn from their mistakes.
I ended up reserving the silver sport touring which only comes in black interior. Was super close to getting the white and gray but didn’t wanna pull the trigger on white being the more expensive color 🤷🏻♂️
WOW, that's the same color exterior and interior I ordered. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of trust in the dealership. I was told in writing that it was built about a month ago and I could expect it to hit the dealership about now, or within about the next week, Earlier this week, the salesman finally wrote and said it was being built this past week and it would be another month. I am really ticked about this, but as you can probably guess, how much of a fuss can you make? This is NOT how cars should be sold and delivered. I'll let you know in about a month if it actually comes in or not. I have my doubts based on what has happened. Oh, and not long ago, they dropped the number of exterior colors and interior colors available in the build a Honda website.. Not sure if this was just a temporary thing or not. I had my heart set on the gray interior after seeing pics of it. Black interior is so common and boring as I see it. If they try to come along now and say I can't get the gray interior, I will be furious. I ordered this Feb. 28 and it sure was available at that time. Glad you are very happy with your choice and I hope I can say the same in a short time.
I nearly bought the manual shifter based on so many enthusiastic reviewer comments. The dealer pushed me to get the automatic and I'm very pleased. The car is such a pleasure to drive and living in Toronto with so much stop and go driving, the CVT works beautifully. Smooth and responsive. The paddle shifters add a little extra fun. Overall, a wonderful car.
Just picked up this exact car this week. I've been blown away now how smooth the clutch is on it. 30 mpg so far with 200 Miles. Absolutely in love with it
I got a 6MT Sport Touring - love the car overall, it’s a refined smooth driving commuter car with fun to drive factor. Wish it had driver side lumbar support though, otherwise it checks all the boxes for what it is.
i really do love my FL1! as soon as i seen the reveal in boost blue pearl i knew i had to get it! coming from a 10th gen civic touring sedan, i can say that it is a huge upgrade.
Just got a new Civic Sport Touring, the drive is confident and fun and that's one main reason we picked it in this segment of cars. Wish it has seat cooling though because in SoCal that's useful.
"The turn signal is not sequuntial?" Sofia, this is not an audi. Just to have the led bar for turn signal is already good. Next time you gonna say " the civic doesn't have láser head lights or massage seats", of course us doesn't because this is not a $ 80,000 dollars car. Same thing with the plástics of these $30,000 cars, everyone including you always complains thats there are lots of plastics but that's ok they are economy cars.
I love this design so much! It actually looks like a futuristic version of the EK Civic. Which is nice that they did that because I think we can all agree the 6th generation is the definitive civic.
@ 5:40 heheh "My only gripe is Honda only offers the Sport Touring with the black interior, I would like them to see them offer in a darker interior..." - Exactly how darker than black do you want it? 🤣🤣
I've owned 2 Civics over the years, an EX and a Si, and I loved them both. It has always been my 2nd fav compact car, right behind the Mazda3, but the Civic is the better bargain in my opinion. That said, I'm not crazy about Honda's move to only turbos on higher trims. I'd rather see a high revving naturally aspirated engine (maybe bring back the old 2.2) in performance Civics, but I know that ship has sailed.
Amazing car. great value! I have been on the hunt for one for my best friend since December for a 6MT and just am finding nothing within 300 miles (NY) , can't wait for him to get his hands on one and enjoy it! Maybe he will find an Integra first since they are going to be so similar, who knows...
This is the design that would look so good down the line. For what Honda been doing with past 3 generations of Civic, this is surely the best out there. A bit too much for the price but a complete package.
I’m finally beginning to see more of these on the road. Because the design is understated it looks way better in a colored paint versus a white/black exterior., but it’s definitely better in person. The interior is great and reminiscent of the civic of old. I’d love to see how this stands up against the mazda3 and the Elantra.
Mazda 3 is junk. It looks good on the outside but underneath it is built with subpar materials and buggy software. Go to the Mazda 3 forum and read all the complaints. It's pretty bad.
Excellent review, I love the hatchback touring and the SI hard to choose. I have a accord 2.0 turbo 10 speed which I love but considering touring or Si as my next purchase.
What kind of mpg's you getting with that Accord? Just kinda wondering why you're looking to downsize? Or do you just like the looks of the Civic better?
Of you are committed to driving an MT while being able to manage overall fuel economy, then choose the Si. If however you aim at easy city driving with a lot of stop-and-go then maybe the Sport Touring is more preferred. Anyway just my 0.02......
I've been considering buying a new Civic Si, but if I buy a new Civic I might opt for a Sport Touring with the manual instead. I'd like to have the additional features the Sport Touring offers over the US version of the Si, and I don't think I'd miss the additional power and LSD all that much. Also, I like hatchbacks. But what I'll probably do -- if I buy a Honda product at all -- is wait for the new Acura Integra and buy the top spec with the 6-speed manual. It could be $5K more than this Civic, but then I'd get the best of both the Si and Sport Touring, and in an even better looking car (in my opinion).
Or get a GLI and get everything you actually want without the compromise. Honda should offer their top trims with a manual. The people buying manuals today are NOT looking for bottom trim models. Honda does not want to cater to those of us who have money now and still want a manual. I will also hold judgment until the integra comes out, but I am still pretty sure the GLI is going to be a nicer overall package. Hello if I could get an A4 with a manual, none of these offerings would be interesting.
@@notmethanks816 the gli is not a hatchback, vw's long term reliability is questionable and the red trim around the fog lights is pretty tacky looking.
As a follow-up to my comment a while back, I bought a new Civic Hatchback Sport Touring with 6-speed manual two weeks ago. I love it so far. To me this was a better choice for a daily driver and for trips with my wife than the Si, which lacks most of the creature comforts and some of the tech of the Sport Touring trim. What I would say to prospective buyers is to make your decision on what you value more - upscale features or driving dynamics. My car is fun to drive, but the extra hp, LSD, and stronger brakes of the Si are worth the trade-off in luxury features if you value driving dynamics more. The ride is fine in my car, especially for a compact car, but I'll be upgrading the rear sway bar soon to reduce body roll. I may upgrade brakes or at least brake pads at some point, too. I test drove the Integra a few times in the last couple years and liked it, and there have been a couple times in the last two weeks I thought maybe I should have bought the Acura instead, but the additional $5K for an A-Spec with Tech package to get the manual is a lot of money, and the upgrades from my ST to the Integra just weren't worth it to me at this time. I wanted a lower car payment than what I was making, cheaper maintenance, and better fuel economy. Also, it helped I was able to get my car in Boost Blue, which was a big factor. Maybe in a few years I'll upgrade to an Integra, or maybe a Type S!
The juvenile look of the last gen, keeps me young. The center exhaust is very boy-racer and all the CUV dads on my block love it. Even my friend with the 6 series, which I can’t stand. I have the Sport CVT as I could not find a stick late in the model run. The car in sport mode blew me away! So fun! It has the in dash 8” entertainment screen and the stereo is very good for this non audiophile listener. At $25k it was hard to justify the +$5k for the Touring. I must say, I am a fan of the 10th gen car as it’s not another Audiesque mature jellybean. Still, very pleased that Honda has kept the hatch. Now they need a stick and a turbo in the regular Sport.
Great content as always Sofyan. Your presentation skills are amazing. I'm not super in love with the front end of this gen Civic and prefer the 8, 9, 10 gen front end. The 11 gen looks too much like an Accord imo
The actual digital cluster is not bad but they could have made the housing look way more cohesive with a gloss black surround and not making it so far inset
After owning Hondas since 1991 I traded my 2018 Civic EX hatch for 2022 Kia K5 GT line. Kia offers so much more than Honda Accord for the money especially AWD. I never liked the CVT trans, an Accord with the 10 spd was a lot more than my K5 with the 8 spd. Always love your reviews.
It's really annoying to have to hit the button every time you start the car. Thankfully there are some aftermarket kits that permanently disable the idle-stop "feature" so the user doesn't have to hit the button every time they start the vehicle.
I love my boost blue sport touring. Color def turns some heads but also gets annoying when other car try to race me when I'm just driving normally. I do have the HPD package which does give it more of a street sport appearance. Can't wait for 3rd parties to come out with more accessories (side skirt, front lips, exhaust, etc). Car is paint corrected and ceramic coated so it looks beautiful. And I'm looking to chrome delete my window trim and touring badge to match my already black emblems. Lots of plans coming up. :D
Right there with you man. The HPD package really takes it to the next level and upgrades the front/back looks. I was worried the boost blue would be a bit loud for me, but I think the HPD kits brings it all together. I'm looking forward to the aftermarket tail light options for either a more clear or tinted look.
This is a great car, but I wish Honda offered better colors i it than just white, grey and black. I'd also like seeing a comparison between the new Integra 6spd manual transmission and the Honda Civic HB Sport Touring 6spd manual transmission.
This channel has done what I've been waiting years for. It looks fantastic in full screen portrait mode on a smartphone. 🙏💯🇺🇲 Edit: it was just the opening intro but very well done on that imo 👍
Our 2020 Civic HB Sport w/6sp is fantastic. I am considering replacing it with the '22 HB Sport Touring w/6spd, but I am disappointed in that it only comes in white, black or grey...Instead I might step up to the new Integra in Blue...we'll see.
Blue? You know that’s the worst color on a car. At least to industry insiders. Which I work with. Managers crap their pants when people come in to trade blue cars. They have a reputation of looking “cheap” all the bosses and executives say. Although good for young people. Anyways they are hard to sell so we don’t offer nearly as much money on trade for blue cars. The bosses always say uh oh here comes a “no sale blue car.” Manufacturers are cranking them out of course and colors are in these days so times are changing. My bosses have always been older white men. They just hate blue cars lol. The neutral cars seem to hold onto value tremendously.
Your blacks love those colors though they buy blue like hot cakes! So if you are black then ignore everything I said earlier and get blue. You Asians love white. It’s amazing how different ethnicities gravitate toward different colors and wheels! Omg. Or a carpeted dash board lol
They finally put the sunglass holder. I owned a '19 civic hatch and it bugged me that they didn't add the sunglass holder, I had to go on amazon to buy the sunglasses visor clip.
I’ve come to enjoy Sofyan’s reviews to the point I can’t watch other car review channels. I wonder if the civic is considered the overall entry level compact sedan/hatch segment leader?
I can’t decide between this civic sports touring or the Elantra N . I have decided that the EN over the SI but for more practical use as a second vehicle I can’t decide if this sports touring hatch mt is a better fit. It checks more boxes and it’s almost as fun to drive as the EN Not worried about resale as I always keep my vehicles a long time and i’m not too worried about reliability as i had a elantra now for 13 yrs and a had a santa fe for over a decade and never had a issue with either one of them. I do love the look of the civic hatch more then the EN but the EN is just a beast on the road and bang for buck offers more. But something keeps on pulling me back to this sports touring hatch
Look at how many competing and even luxury models you have to pay extra for Apple Carplay, safety suite and LED headlights! You can get accent lighting. It’s not “faux aluminum”, it’s black on the Sport Touring and it’s called a herringbone pattern. The Touring sedan has silver colored switchgear trim.
I’m looking forward to seeing a redesigned Accord. I would imagine the interior would be very similar to this Civic. I feel the current Accord is a little behind it’s competitors like the K5 when it comes to technology and design.
@@2004cyrus My imagination is they will do a mid-cycle refresh and hopefully make some refinements and updates but you're most likely right. The interior will have little to no tweaks while they while make some subtle exterior changes. Usually it's rear tail lights with Honda.
@@2004cyrus The Accord is being fully redesigned for 2023. That's why they haven't released the 2023 model yet. Heard they are going to reveal it in late summer
You mentioned not having more colours to choose from when it comes to the manual, not sure if that’s just in the States but here in Canada, we get all six colours, including the boost blue
Great review as always... curious what people think the next level up (upgrade) from this vehicle would be? IS there something like this but with AWD? I am not really a Subaru fan.
If you're going to buy a Honda, and can afford it, the one to get is the 2.0T Accord. If you can't afford the Accord, this would be a suitable substitute.
the good thing is that we have in Europe the nicer one with A/C vents and USB`s in the second row but the bad thing is no Turbo engine only one Hybrid with 180 HP and we must wait 6 more months for the car.
Meanwhile, some of us Americans hope that the e:hev hatch cones to the US. The hybrid doesn't have oil dilution and even though I have faith Honda's CVT, the I-mmd mechanism is just even better.
I am trying to order a 23 Sport Touring hatch. Thanks for saying it’s 80% Si since the only thing that made me choose this is the hatchback. Any concerns with the 1.5 Turbo oil dilution issue I’ve read about?
@@rtroiani had an 18 touring with cvt, no issues, just gotta change the cvt fluid when the car tells you! Currently waiting for my ‘23 ST cvt to come in
Why does Honda not have lumbar support and ventilated seats for the Touring trim? Seems like a miss for $30k when VW offers it on the Jetta sel plus seat memory. The new Civic looks great, but it's a miss on the creature comforts that add a lot to a daily drive.
If this has a tunnel for the drive shaft then I know the integra will have sh-awd and get a type s. I’m wondering why they won’t add the ivtm 4 system on the civic. Probably because the Honda system is made for ruggedness and the Acura version is performance based.
So trying to buy the exact car in the video - all of my local dealers say none available from Honda for months. Sort of frustrating as Honda always quotes "take rate" when killing manual trans etc - but it seems they are not giving us a chance to "take" the manual.
Actually, the 1998-2002 Honda Accord featured a Bose sound system in the EX-L models. So this is not really the first time a "branded" system has been put in a Honda.
@@ajlee6933 The Wikipedia article for Honda Accord has many references to Bose being factory installed throughout the years. Lots of old forum posts talking about the Bose speakers on the Accord too.
Love the Civic especially this design. But I’m still disappointed with how dirty they’re doing the American market when it comes to features for it in comparison to Canada, especially with the Si. Hopefully that will change for the next year.
I don't think it will change much but at the very least, they should add front heated seats, fog lights, the digital dash with shift lights, and dual zone climate control to the American Si. At least give us the features that we had in the last generation Si.
@@kevinnorris6558 well, my fingers are still crossed. But I agree as this year feels like a downgrade in comparison to the last generation and is EXTREMELY bare bones compared to the Canadian spec. I see plenty of previous gen Civic Si’s, hatches, and, sedans on the road, but have only seen two new gen Civics in total. While I feel that it’s because of dealership markups (since it is a horrible time to get a vehicle), I feel that the lack of features play a big role because there are other makes that offer similar performance for a similar price at similar trim levels, but have waaaay more in terms of accessories. This is especially true with new Hyundai Elantras, Toyota Corollas, and Mazda3 Hatchbacks that I see a ton of on the roads
I don't like the styling particularly.... But being able to get a hatchback with a manual transmission + a sunroof is so rare these days. Unbelievably, you can only get a manual transmission in the Mazda3 on the non-turbo premium model: and you can't get a manual transmission on a Subaru Impreza at all anymore
Just test drove one of these. Unfortunately, at 5'9 I can't sit comfortably in the rear seats. It's above 2500 rpm in 6th at 105 km/h and has an annoying amount of road noise. Handling is decent but it gets unstable pretty easily when loaded in a corner. They are now asking over $39k CAD for it. As nice as it is, it's just not worth it.
Roofline could of be lower and made the model look less chunky by following tighter to the chrome window surround instead. Tightening the tailights giving it that sleek look .
My local Honda Dealer: Sorry but if you want to buy a Honda Civic Touring Hatchback with a manual it is going to be a bit of a wait. Sofyan: Honda has lent me this Honda Civic Touring Hatchback with a manual for a week. Me: DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Nice car but I think my 2020 Civic Si coupe with 205hp and 6 speed manual is the best civic ever! Honda bring the coupe back with more and not less horsepower please! Mine cost 24k brand new in 2020! I have gotten 45 mpg hwy and 30 city!
Honda manuals are kinda scary in my opinion cuz the reverse gear gate is right in “shift-motion-proximity” when going from 5th to 6th gear, in others words if you want to go into sixth then you could accidentally move the stick it a little too far to the right and throw it into reverse while going formidable speeds on a freeway 😨 I’ve personally never experienced that but it really scares the hell out of me when I drive my dads Honda Accord 2.0t with the manual 😭
I bought the 2021 civic hatchback sport touring. I wonder if the new one is more quiet. I knew 2020/2021 civic added some sound insulation material. It feels quiet below 40MPH but still feel kind of annoying on shitty highway road. lol
One thing I hate is the turn signal handle because it integrates the light control . In a wrx the signal is the same and it happened to shut of your lights when signaling to overtake …
I can’t get my hands on either to drive so I am asking all my favorite reviewers. I have deposits on a Civic Hatch Touring and a KIA K5 GT line. Same price. I know the Kia is a different class but which would YOU buy? I just need an efficient decent looking family hauler.
I bought a brand new 2023 Honda Civic Touring sedan in January. It’s an automatic, 1.5 turbo w/CVT. Honda has gone back to their design roots. The 11th gen design is just beautiful. I love the understated, polished exterior and semi-luxury interior. Mine is meteorite metallic gray with a two-tone black/gray interior (but looks ivory to me). It was definitely pricey for a Civic but I’m super happy with it. Understated yet very classy, with Honda reliability.
Look up the 10th Gen coupe shits so pretty
@@vankai6817 Why on earth would I look at an older gen when I bought a newer gen brand new?? That makes absolutely no sense.
@@SmartPracticeSuccessI don't think they meant to purchase, just to look at its design cause they think it's pretty.
I'm a long time civic fan and owner. Had the 9th gen hybrid, 10th gen sport hatch. Me and my partner are about to get a sport touring hatch and we're super excited we test drove it and loved everything
I love my sport touring! I have the pearl white with the grey interior. I definitely think that the lighter interior makes it feel much brighter and classier of an interior. I have had no issues with anything and everything looks awesome. I have gotten 39 MPG with the CVT on the highway, very impressive!
Honda CVT's actually do not suck. In fact (with proper maintenance), Honda's present-day CVT's have proven to be even more reliable than not only their early CVT's, but also their conventional automatic transmissions.
Like Toyota, Honda has good engineers who learn from their mistakes.
I ended up reserving the silver sport touring which only comes in black interior. Was super close to getting the white and gray but didn’t wanna pull the trigger on white being the more expensive color 🤷🏻♂️
That's great!
WOW, that's the same color exterior and interior I ordered. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of trust in the dealership. I was told in writing that it was built about a month ago and I could expect it to hit the dealership about now, or within about the next week, Earlier this week, the salesman finally wrote and said it was being built this past week and it would be another month. I am really ticked about this, but as you can probably guess, how much of a fuss can you make? This is NOT how cars should be sold and delivered. I'll let you know in about a month if it actually comes in or not. I have my doubts based on what has happened.
Oh, and not long ago, they dropped the number of exterior colors and interior colors available in the build a Honda website.. Not sure if this was just a temporary thing or not. I had my heart set on the gray interior after seeing pics of it. Black interior is so common and boring as I see it. If they try to come along now and say I can't get the gray interior, I will be furious. I ordered this Feb. 28 and it sure was available at that time.
Glad you are very happy with your choice and I hope I can say the same in a short time.
what was your OTD price?
I nearly bought the manual shifter based on so many enthusiastic reviewer comments. The dealer pushed me to get the automatic and I'm very pleased. The car is such a pleasure to drive and living in Toronto with so much stop and go driving, the CVT works beautifully. Smooth and responsive. The paddle shifters add a little extra fun. Overall, a wonderful car.
Should have got the manual
Just picked up this exact car this week. I've been blown away now how smooth the clutch is on it. 30 mpg so far with 200 Miles. Absolutely in love with it
Bought one too, loving it so far. Its only $20,000!!!
@@Ty-uy6bf I got the sport touring model so it was a little more pricey but yes a very good entry level car
@@Ty-uy6bf wow that is dirt cheap! Who is selling $20,000 Civics?
This car looks amazing but this exact model doesn’t seem to be available near me 😭
@@Noseycone get ahold of your dealer to order one. That's what I had to do.
I got a 6MT Sport Touring - love the car overall, it’s a refined smooth driving commuter car with fun to drive factor. Wish it had driver side lumbar support though, otherwise it checks all the boxes for what it is.
Do you still have it ? Is it still worth it a year later ?
I have a 10th gen hatch with a 6spd manual and I love it. The 1.5T engine is perfect.
i really do love my FL1! as soon as i seen the reveal in boost blue pearl i knew i had to get it! coming from a 10th gen civic touring sedan, i can say that it is a huge upgrade.
Just got a new Civic Sport Touring, the drive is confident and fun and that's one main reason we picked it in this segment of cars. Wish it has seat cooling though because in SoCal that's useful.
"The turn signal is not sequuntial?" Sofia, this is not an audi. Just to have the led bar for turn signal is already good. Next time you gonna say " the civic doesn't have láser head lights or massage seats", of course us doesn't because this is not a $ 80,000 dollars car. Same thing with the plástics of these $30,000 cars, everyone including you always complains thats there are lots of plastics but that's ok they are economy cars.
Thats all he does is complain about everything every review. I dont understand how he even has a following.
I love this design so much! It actually looks like a futuristic version of the EK Civic. Which is nice that they did that because I think we can all agree the 6th generation is the definitive civic.
I didn't realize you spoke on the behalf of the rest of us in claiming "we all agree the 6th gen Civic is the most definitive version".
@@JulezWinnfield You're welcome.
Eh idk. 7th gen pretty iconic too. I see 7th and 10th gens more than any other civic on the road.
@ 5:40 heheh "My only gripe is Honda only offers the Sport Touring with the black interior, I would like them to see them offer in a darker interior..." - Exactly how darker than black do you want it? 🤣🤣
@@battosaijenkins946 You took the words right out of my mouth.
I've owned 2 Civics over the years, an EX and a Si, and I loved them both. It has always been my 2nd fav compact car, right behind the Mazda3, but the Civic is the better bargain in my opinion. That said, I'm not crazy about Honda's move to only turbos on higher trims. I'd rather see a high revving naturally aspirated engine (maybe bring back the old 2.2) in performance Civics, but I know that ship has sailed.
love this guys videos man literally i have been watching your videos since my first car back when i was in high school aha!
Amazing car. great value! I have been on the hunt for one for my best friend since December for a 6MT and just am finding nothing within 300 miles (NY) , can't wait for him to get his hands on one and enjoy it! Maybe he will find an Integra first since they are going to be so similar, who knows...
They are very rare! Good luck, hope you can find one.
At 16K miles now in my sport touring I love it so much I gladly run it about 27 mpgs most days 🤙🏻
This is the design that would look so good down the line.
For what Honda been doing with past 3 generations of Civic, this is surely the best out there.
A bit too much for the price but a complete package.
The price is right on this car. It has everything you could want.
I’m finally beginning to see more of these on the road. Because the design is understated it looks way better in a colored paint versus a white/black exterior., but it’s definitely better in person. The interior is great and reminiscent of the civic of old. I’d love to see how this stands up against the mazda3 and the Elantra.
It stands up great
Mazda 3 is junk. It looks good on the outside but underneath it is built with subpar materials and buggy software. Go to the Mazda 3 forum and read all the complaints. It's pretty bad.
Excellent review, I love the hatchback touring and the SI hard to choose. I have a accord 2.0 turbo 10 speed which I love but considering touring or Si as my next purchase.
What kind of mpg's you getting with that Accord? Just kinda wondering why you're looking to downsize? Or do you just like the looks of the Civic better?
Of you are committed to driving an MT while being able to manage overall fuel economy, then choose the Si. If however you aim at easy city driving with a lot of stop-and-go then maybe the Sport Touring is more preferred. Anyway just my 0.02......
How’s the accord 2.0 with the MPG ?
I've been considering buying a new Civic Si, but if I buy a new Civic I might opt for a Sport Touring with the manual instead. I'd like to have the additional features the Sport Touring offers over the US version of the Si, and I don't think I'd miss the additional power and LSD all that much. Also, I like hatchbacks. But what I'll probably do -- if I buy a Honda product at all -- is wait for the new Acura Integra and buy the top spec with the 6-speed manual. It could be $5K more than this Civic, but then I'd get the best of both the Si and Sport Touring, and in an even better looking car (in my opinion).
Or get a GLI and get everything you actually want without the compromise. Honda should offer their top trims with a manual. The people buying manuals today are NOT looking for bottom trim models. Honda does not want to cater to those of us who have money now and still want a manual. I will also hold judgment until the integra comes out, but I am still pretty sure the GLI is going to be a nicer overall package.
Hello if I could get an A4 with a manual, none of these offerings would be interesting.
@@notmethanks816 the gli is not a hatchback, vw's long term reliability is questionable and the red trim around the fog lights is pretty tacky looking.
As a follow-up to my comment a while back, I bought a new Civic Hatchback Sport Touring with 6-speed manual two weeks ago. I love it so far. To me this was a better choice for a daily driver and for trips with my wife than the Si, which lacks most of the creature comforts and some of the tech of the Sport Touring trim.
What I would say to prospective buyers is to make your decision on what you value more - upscale features or driving dynamics. My car is fun to drive, but the extra hp, LSD, and stronger brakes of the Si are worth the trade-off in luxury features if you value driving dynamics more. The ride is fine in my car, especially for a compact car, but I'll be upgrading the rear sway bar soon to reduce body roll. I may upgrade brakes or at least brake pads at some point, too.
I test drove the Integra a few times in the last couple years and liked it, and there have been a couple times in the last two weeks I thought maybe I should have bought the Acura instead, but the additional $5K for an A-Spec with Tech package to get the manual is a lot of money, and the upgrades from my ST to the Integra just weren't worth it to me at this time. I wanted a lower car payment than what I was making, cheaper maintenance, and better fuel economy. Also, it helped I was able to get my car in Boost Blue, which was a big factor. Maybe in a few years I'll upgrade to an Integra, or maybe a Type S!
The juvenile look of the last gen, keeps me young. The center exhaust is very boy-racer and all the CUV dads on my block love it. Even my friend with the 6 series, which I can’t stand. I have the Sport CVT as I could not find a stick late in the model run. The car in sport mode blew me away! So fun! It has the in dash 8” entertainment screen and the stereo is very good for this non audiophile listener. At $25k it was hard to justify the +$5k for the Touring. I must say, I am a fan of the 10th gen car as it’s not another Audiesque mature jellybean. Still, very pleased that Honda has kept the hatch. Now they need a stick and a turbo in the regular Sport.
Great content as always Sofyan. Your presentation skills are amazing. I'm not super in love with the front end of this gen Civic and prefer the 8, 9, 10 gen front end. The 11 gen looks too much like an Accord imo
Civic used to look like a teenager car, now it looks more mature and elegant. All of those gens you mention are ugly in my opinion.
The actual digital cluster is not bad but they could have made the housing look way more cohesive with a gloss black surround and not making it so far inset
The best civic I’ve ever owned so far
I have the 2018 and these new features make it so tempting to upgrade !
@@Noseycone The 2018 is hideous.
Yesss.. been waiting for your in-depth review of this car! Torn between Mazda 3 GT
hatch or this car.
Great review, this guy does not stutter a word lol 😂
Grat review of the Acura Integra 2022 lol
Wow that interior really mimics an older higher trim BMW in the heater controls. That center console is really familiar!
After owning Hondas since 1991 I traded my 2018 Civic EX hatch for 2022 Kia K5 GT line. Kia offers so much more than Honda Accord for the money especially AWD. I never liked the CVT trans, an Accord with the 10 spd was a lot more than my K5 with the 8 spd. Always love your reviews.
If you don’t care about a manual transmission, then yes you’re right. Kia offers more content for the money.
I saw one of these with the HPD appearance package and it really looked sharp.
For those that complain about the auto-start-stop, you can disable it. It's easy: after starting the car, just press a button by the shifter
@DOGS LOL no, not every time. Just each time you start the car. Or keep the a/c on and it will disable it automatically
It's really annoying to have to hit the button every time you start the car. Thankfully there are some aftermarket kits that permanently disable the idle-stop "feature" so the user doesn't have to hit the button every time they start the vehicle.
I love my boost blue sport touring. Color def turns some heads but also gets annoying when other car try to race me when I'm just driving normally. I do have the HPD package which does give it more of a street sport appearance. Can't wait for 3rd parties to come out with more accessories (side skirt, front lips, exhaust, etc). Car is paint corrected and ceramic coated so it looks beautiful. And I'm looking to chrome delete my window trim and touring badge to match my already black emblems. Lots of plans coming up. :D
Right there with you man. The HPD package really takes it to the next level and upgrades the front/back looks. I was worried the boost blue would be a bit loud for me, but I think the HPD kits brings it all together. I'm looking forward to the aftermarket tail light options for either a more clear or tinted look.
There is nothing sport about a civic 😂 eco car that’s it
This is a great car, but I wish Honda offered better colors i it than just white, grey and black.
I'd also like seeing a comparison between the new Integra 6spd manual transmission and the Honda Civic HB Sport Touring 6spd manual transmission.
Congrats on 900k!
This channel has done what I've been waiting years for. It looks fantastic in full screen portrait mode on a smartphone. 🙏💯🇺🇲
Edit: it was just the opening intro but very well done on that imo 👍
Our 2020 Civic HB Sport w/6sp is fantastic. I am considering replacing it with the '22 HB Sport Touring w/6spd, but I am disappointed in that it only comes in white, black or grey...Instead I might step up to the new Integra in Blue...we'll see.
Blue? You know that’s the worst color on a car. At least to industry insiders. Which I work with. Managers crap their pants when people come in to trade blue cars. They have a reputation of looking “cheap” all the bosses and executives say. Although good for young people. Anyways they are hard to sell so we don’t offer nearly as much money on trade for blue cars. The bosses always say uh oh here comes a “no sale blue car.” Manufacturers are cranking them out of course and colors are in these days so times are changing. My bosses have always been older white men. They just hate blue cars lol. The neutral cars seem to hold onto value tremendously.
Your blacks love those colors though they buy blue like hot cakes! So if you are black then ignore everything I said earlier and get blue. You Asians love white. It’s amazing how different ethnicities gravitate toward different colors and wheels! Omg. Or a carpeted dash board lol
They finally put the sunglass holder. I owned a '19 civic hatch and it bugged me that they didn't add the sunglass holder, I had to go on amazon to buy the sunglasses visor clip.
How is this compare to the new Integra? I’m excited to find out. Please address this on your Integra review video.
I’ve come to enjoy Sofyan’s reviews to the point I can’t watch other car review channels. I wonder if the civic is considered the overall entry level compact sedan/hatch segment leader?
I want it but these dealerships think that I'm going to pay a 5k+ markup for one of these I can wait lol
I can’t decide between this civic sports touring or the Elantra N .
I have decided that the EN over the SI but for more practical use as a second vehicle I can’t decide if this sports touring hatch mt is a better fit.
It checks more boxes and it’s almost as fun to drive as the EN
Not worried about resale as I always keep my vehicles a long time and i’m not too worried about reliability as i had a elantra now for 13 yrs and a had a santa fe for over a decade and never had a issue with either one of them.
I do love the look of the civic hatch more then the EN but the EN is just a beast on the road and bang for buck offers more. But something keeps on pulling me back to this sports touring hatch
I'm starting to see a lot of the New Civic on the road! Just wish the 9in infotainment starts with the Ex.
Touring sedan has 18 inch alloy wheels. Heated steering wheel is a dealer installed accessory on the Accord.
Look at how many competing and even luxury models you have to pay extra for Apple Carplay, safety suite and LED headlights! You can get accent lighting. It’s not “faux aluminum”, it’s black on the Sport Touring and it’s called a herringbone pattern. The Touring sedan has silver colored switchgear trim.
I’m looking forward to seeing a redesigned Accord. I would imagine the interior would be very similar to this Civic. I feel the current Accord is a little behind it’s competitors like the K5 when it comes to technology and design.
It is behind it will be a couple more years before the redesign
@@2004cyrus it’s actually coming out later this year. Spy shots already out
@@2004cyrus My imagination is they will do a mid-cycle refresh and hopefully make some refinements and updates but you're most likely right. The interior will have little to no tweaks while they while make some subtle exterior changes. Usually it's rear tail lights with Honda.
@@2004cyrus The Accord is being fully redesigned for 2023. That's why they haven't released the 2023 model yet. Heard they are going to reveal it in late summer
Love that color combo with the five-spoke type wheels as well, sharp car...tho I don't love the back-end
I love a sexy rear end like this one
You mentioned not having more colours to choose from when it comes to the manual, not sure if that’s just in the States but here in Canada, we get all six colours, including the boost blue
Great review as always... curious what people think the next level up (upgrade) from this vehicle would be? IS there something like this but with AWD? I am not really a Subaru fan.
Is this basically one step down the SI in performance?
Average new car price being $47000 is quite a shock!
If you're going to buy a Honda, and can afford it, the one to get is the 2.0T Accord. If you can't afford the Accord, this would be a suitable substitute.
Very Nice Bro! Get Good People!
the good thing is that we have in Europe the nicer one with A/C vents and USB`s in the second row but the bad thing is no Turbo engine only one Hybrid with 180 HP and we must wait 6 more months for the car.
Meanwhile, some of us Americans hope that the e:hev hatch cones to the US. The hybrid doesn't have oil dilution and even though I have faith Honda's CVT, the I-mmd mechanism is just even better.
Should I lease this new civic , keep my 2020 sport civic or look at a different car ?? Can’t decide
I am trying to order a 23 Sport Touring hatch. Thanks for saying it’s 80% Si since the only thing that made me choose this is the hatchback. Any concerns with the 1.5 Turbo oil dilution issue I’ve read about?
Honda fixed the oil dilution problem in ‘19
@@PapaShubz thanks. I ended up getting one and have had zero issues so far. Great car.
@@rtroiani had an 18 touring with cvt, no issues, just gotta change the cvt fluid when the car tells you! Currently waiting for my ‘23 ST cvt to come in
Why does Honda not have lumbar support and ventilated seats for the Touring trim? Seems like a miss for $30k when VW offers it on the Jetta sel plus seat memory. The new Civic looks great, but it's a miss on the creature comforts that add a lot to a daily drive.
If this Civic wasn't near $40,000 with markups nowadays, it'd be worth it. Now isn't the time to buy any new vehicle.
Not every dealer is marking up. I paid MSRP
@@UltimateTuner10 Every dealer I've been to in Southern California has marked up vehicles.
@@AndrewQuiroz24 agreed, many that i visited marked them up. It was better to buy pre-covid especially used.
That's a dealership problem, not a carmaker problem.
@@UltimateTuner10 what was your out the door cost? I'm at 35k picking it up next week. One dealership quoted me 43k!?
Was wondering if you’d do a review on the sport touring with a 6spd 🙌🏽!
This one is the 6 speed ?
This is actually his second video on the 6spd sport touring
If this has a tunnel for the drive shaft then I know the integra will have sh-awd and get a type s. I’m wondering why they won’t add the ivtm 4 system on the civic. Probably because the Honda system is made for ruggedness and the Acura version is performance based.
Lol in Canada the touring and sport touring model have the heated steering wheel and all 4 heated seats
I hate to say it, but in these times the Civic Sport Touring at $30,800 is a great value.
I'm getting my boost blue sport touring hatchback next week and it's 35k out the door. Another dealership was asking 43k for the same car.
Really nice car! Fun to drive.
Hi! Just wanna ask if it's safe on snowy condition? Thanks in advance
So trying to buy the exact car in the video - all of my local dealers say none available from Honda for months. Sort of frustrating as Honda always quotes "take rate" when killing manual trans etc - but it seems they are not giving us a chance to "take" the manual.
I love my sport touring hatch!
Actually, the 1998-2002 Honda Accord featured a Bose sound system in the EX-L models. So this is not really the first time a "branded" system has been put in a Honda.
Acura models had Bose in the US, not Honda’s.
@@ajlee6933 The Wikipedia article for Honda Accord has many references to Bose being factory installed throughout the years. Lots of old forum posts talking about the Bose speakers on the Accord too.
Love the Civic especially this design. But I’m still disappointed with how dirty they’re doing the American market when it comes to features for it in comparison to Canada, especially with the Si. Hopefully that will change for the next year.
I don't think it will change much but at the very least, they should add front heated seats, fog lights, the digital dash with shift lights, and dual zone climate control to the American Si. At least give us the features that we had in the last generation Si.
@@kevinnorris6558 well, my fingers are still crossed. But I agree as this year feels like a downgrade in comparison to the last generation and is EXTREMELY bare bones compared to the Canadian spec. I see plenty of previous gen Civic Si’s, hatches, and, sedans on the road, but have only seen two new gen Civics in total. While I feel that it’s because of dealership markups (since it is a horrible time to get a vehicle), I feel that the lack of features play a big role because there are other makes that offer similar performance for a similar price at similar trim levels, but have waaaay more in terms of accessories. This is especially true with new Hyundai Elantras, Toyota Corollas, and Mazda3 Hatchbacks that I see a ton of on the roads
I can't agree more; Honda sells much better looking and better features cars in other markets.
Man I’ve been wanting a sporty civic so bad but I want an automatic transmission.
I don't like the styling particularly.... But being able to get a hatchback with a manual transmission + a sunroof is so rare these days. Unbelievably, you can only get a manual transmission in the Mazda3 on the non-turbo premium model: and you can't get a manual transmission on a Subaru Impreza at all anymore
I kind of like this but I want the sportiness of the Si. I wish there was an Si with some nicer features too
Yeah, but the Accord does not come with a heated steering wheel, only available as a dealer installed accessory
Civic is probably best option in the market, ofcourse after Mazda3. Also, for a bit lower price but still very good, there's Ceed, Focus and i30.
If Rob were in the passenger seat, we'd see a 0-60 time challenge!
C/D got a 7.3 0-60. You got a 7.4 which is very good Considering they use a more comprehensive testing process.
Did C/D use the 1ft roll-out method though?
@@muskistutter According to the test sheet, that number omits the rollout.
The back looks soooo much better!!
really want to see a automatic trans review of this car
Watching all 11th gen Civic content while I wait for Honda to release more info about the new Type R.
Just test drove one of these. Unfortunately, at 5'9 I can't sit comfortably in the rear seats. It's above 2500 rpm in 6th at 105 km/h and has an annoying amount of road noise. Handling is decent but it gets unstable pretty easily when loaded in a corner. They are now asking over $39k CAD for it. As nice as it is, it's just not worth it.
Roofline could of be lower and made the model look less chunky by following tighter to the chrome window surround instead. Tightening the tailights giving it that sleek look .
They have the sedan for that. I really like this design
You really dont want a lower roofline if you have any passengers
My local Honda Dealer: Sorry but if you want to buy a Honda Civic Touring Hatchback with a manual it is going to be a bit of a wait.
Sofyan: Honda has lent me this Honda Civic Touring Hatchback with a manual for a week.
Me: DOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
For the money, it's worth it.
Just here waiting for the new Type-R...
Type R 2 door
I didn’t really like this when I first saw it but it’s growing on me lol
Hondas have been like that for me since the late eighties.
Hi do you find the screen on the dash distracting? It seems tall.
This or GTI? I would lean toward the Civic as I love Honda, but still might be a tough choice.
Good luck trying to find one of these at your local dealership
Nice car but I think my 2020 Civic Si coupe with 205hp and 6 speed manual is the best civic ever! Honda bring the coupe back with more and not less horsepower please! Mine cost 24k brand new in 2020! I have gotten 45 mpg hwy and 30 city!
just curious are some of your videos made in pennsylvania
camry is 202hp 39mpg hwy and is heavier than civic...so the camry engine is more efficient?
I wonder how much larger or smaller the Integra trunk will be compared to the civic hatch
i really hate the apple car play stuff because i love samsung. wish these were a feature you could choose depending on what phone you have.
Why didn't they extend the hood to the end/edge? Looks off how ot opens from the top.
How are these engines holding up?
Honda manuals are kinda scary in my opinion cuz the reverse gear gate is right in “shift-motion-proximity” when going from 5th to 6th gear, in others words if you want to go into sixth then you could accidentally move the stick it a little too far to the right and throw it into reverse while going formidable speeds on a freeway 😨 I’ve personally never experienced that but it really scares the hell out of me when I drive my dads Honda Accord 2.0t with the manual 😭
I think they have a reverse gear lockout at certain speeds
I just saw one here in canada. For some reason it does have heated steering wheel
Great video - love this car!
I bought the 2021 civic hatchback sport touring. I wonder if the new one is more quiet. I knew 2020/2021 civic added some sound insulation material. It feels quiet below 40MPH but still feel kind of annoying on shitty highway road. lol
I've read many complaints regarding interior road noise? Has anyone experianced this problem? I'll be waiting till 2023 the the Civic Hatchback.
One thing I hate is the turn signal handle because it integrates the light control . In a wrx the signal is the same and it happened to shut of your lights when signaling to overtake …
I have been driving cars with the light control on the turn signal stalk for over 7 years and that hasn't happened a single time.
I can’t get my hands on either to drive so I am asking all my favorite reviewers. I have deposits on a Civic Hatch Touring and a KIA K5 GT line. Same price. I know the Kia is a different class but which would YOU buy? I just need an efficient decent looking family hauler.
Does Honda have a way to clean the valves? I'm sick of DI engines.