I got the ratchet recently and after some use together with the Skeletool I could not be happier. I wish they will come up with a shorter version that could then be permanently implemented (or stoved when attached to the bit exchanger) in a multitool. That would be awesome.
I ordered a 3d printed sheath that carries the ratcheting driver and 2 sleeves of bits. It would be hard to implement that into a skeletool though, imo if you need a driver extension and bits, you're better off sheath carrying a more capable multi tool like a wave or charge. I do love the skeletool, that's my go to if I don't wanna belt carry and have a bunch of extra weight I won't need
@@petemitchell6788 I’m not really concerned about mine being covered by warranty, I am going to take mine to the breaking point to see just what it can handle anyway, I’m sure that is not covered by warranty.
BTW - I have bought several things after watching your reviews - your Knipex reviews were spot on as well as the reviews on Surge, Crunch and Skeletool. Appreciate it!!
When I first heard about this I started working on my own because I assumed this would cost a lot more because its leatherman. I’ve managed to build my own using socket and hex adapters with a performance tools ratchet adaptor (the ratcheting piece comes with a lifetime warranty). Built it for around $15 bucks if you ignore the costs of prototyping stages. It’s a bit bigger but it’s all metal construction and I’m not worried about it breaking. I literally finished putting it all together the day they released the leatherman one.
I wish I could use the leatherman ratchet with a hexagonal female tool I have. I have the Big idea Bit bar and would love to plug the leatherman ratchet in but the male piece has a flat head at the end. Any advice on how I might do that?
Leatherman are on a slippery slope with this out sourcing. I have loads of Leatherman tools but since the free stuff came out and now this I'm starting to question where they are heading. Also when Leatherman bought out ledlenser torches the quality dropped dramatically. Great job on the review as always.👍
Heck, even their made in usa stuff has terrible qc... I just got my first leatheman product at xmas(my wife got me a surge) and for 200 dollars canadian i was dissatisfied... All of the outward locking tools had way to much back and forth play and lockups were bottomed out... I have 10 dollar crappy folder with way more secure liner locks... I kept it because it was a present, but if i purchased myself i would have returned it ao quick
Outsourcing is not really an issue for me, it’s finding the right company to outsource to. Wera outsources some of their stuff, and it is all pretty high quality. I get you point though. They need to tighten the reigns on the quality control, because if they don’t, it could really cause them to head in a downward spiral. My father taught me something a very long time ago. He said, “You can do a 1000 jobs perfect, but it is the one that you do wrong that everyone will talk about.” How true it is! Thanks for watching.
You seem to be quite negative towards Leatherman. I know they have had some quality issues as of late, but they are the best in the business. Unlike Victorinox, which brings a new model out about once every 10 years, they are pushing the envelope. So, I guess I don’t understand why all the hate towards Leatherman.
I would think the "play" may actually help in certain situations for example getting around door knobs ect. Good review as always looking forward to the torture test!
Wobble extensions or wobble plus like snapon and well...everyone has, for sockets ect, are a gift. That 10 or so degrees of wobble helps so much in a bunch of cases where you'd normally be going at it, MAYBE catching the nut/bolt but with them, you can get the angle and get a good grip. The wobble seems good, as long as its not a longevity problem
I've been following your channel since January 2020, before that I didn't owned a multitool and now I've carried a leatherman surge since may 2020 and its been awesome. All task my everyday can encounter I can resolve it with my surge. Awesome channel content and very informative. Real experience from real usage. Keep it awesome and see you on the next video. Saludos desde México Ben. 🇲🇽
Saludos amigo. The Surge is the best multi tool on the planet in my opinion. I’ve used a lot of them, but I always come back to the Surge. It is one of the only ones that can hold up to an industrial environment. I’m very glad yours is serving you well. Thank you for watching my channel, I really appreciate everyone’s support.
Just got mine friday. REI shipped. Mine actually seems pretty tight, not much play in it, in the locked position or otherwise. I’m curious to see if the others you ordered will have play.
Thank you a ton for covering the carry options for this. As well as everything you've covered in this video. I've been over hyping this for a little bit, I wanted to know everything about it haha
I highly appreciate watching your reviews as a small channel myself I try my best to review tools but surely I learn alot from channel like yours and your reviews are very informative. Thanks and keep up good work Sir.
Most epic move was at 2:10 taking Your Leatherman to open with so much feeling and skill that box!!! You got it Bro👌👍🤟!!! Perfect review, detailed, leaves no questiones what so ever!!! I will buy that leatherman ratchet right now! Thank's so much and all the best!
bought 2...no complaints. i've been waiting for something like this for a long time. i have many tools for many jobs, but i can take my leatherman in my pocket. does work great
I find that just by carrying my Surge, I can do about 60% of the tasks I have to do without having to go back to the toolbox after dedicated tools. You start adding that up over the course of years, who knows how many miles of walking the Surge has saved me.
@@txtoolcrib Just posted my review. I'm looking forward to putting this thru it's pacs. So far it's held up to my limited testing, I'll give it a run for it's money over the next few weeks.
I EDC my SURGE with a pocket clip. I use my Leatherman Sheath as a toolbox to carry my bits and saw blade. I put the sheath in my front pocket of either my work back pack or on weekends and traveling i keep it in my Kelty Redwing tactical backpack.
Great review. I was looking forward to this accessory and will see how long it last in real world use. It seems solid enough for most tasks, but as you say, time will tell.
I just got a Wave Plus a bit ago, love the thing, havn't used it a ton, and i thought about the surge, but wanted to keep price down and just try out their smaller more compact EDC type setup. The surge is for sure the way to go for an all out heavy duty deal. This ratchet driver looks awesome, normally i'd be using some junky stanly or some chinease deal which is GIANT and all plastic and overall pretty janky. Love having nice tools which work and last, i think ill have to pick this up, along with the bit kits, so i can do most anything i need without going out to my toolbox ect. Also replaces some cheap bits and bit screwdrivers lol.
Just received my ratchet today from REI (only place I could find it right now). You may be pleasantly surprised that the extra hex hole/holder on the Signal works quite nicely with the ratchet driver.
I violated my two year warrenty; drilled a 1/8 inch hole into the flat part, near the end so I could insert a large key ring, now I can use it for a hand driver/drill and hook it on a belt clip for every day carry
Great video, I was very excited to see your thoughts on this. It looks very promising. I'd love to see you test it as a ratcheting adapter for non-Leatherman bit drivers as well. It seems like it would work well paired with something like the Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1 or even a small dedicated bit driver like the Wiha Stubby with bit storage in the handle.
pretty strong price tag for what it is IMHO. I'd like to see them using a locking bit-holder on their extensions, as well as a locking mechanism when it's attached to the multitool - I don't know how often the bit or extension with the bit fell off when I retracted them.
I ordered mine direct from Leatherman today and then later that day I broke my Wave. I guess I’m going to have to wait to test mine out. Your video seems to show what I was expecting from the tool.
I like to address a couple concerns people have about price, warranty and the amount of teeth. As far as the price, at $30 Leatherman tested the market and yes we will buy it at that price. Warranty reasonable for what it is and the amount of abuse "we" will give it. 45 teeth vs 60 or more, 45 allows for a bigger pawl and bigger teeth with the right material it should be stronger for the amount of torque that can be applied to it. The handles on the Leatherman Surge are 4 in Long when you put the tool into a pistol grip configuration it will apply a massive amount of torque compared to it the collapsed position. I would rather a $30 ratchet break then twist out my bit driver on my Surge. Great channel love your content
Another awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Those of you who are REI members, this may be a good time to pick it up. Our REI dividends and 20% member discounts just went out in the mail, so that should get some of you in the lower $20 range if not more for this item.
Thanks for the detailed review. The moving plastic part cooled me down on this. How many years of use will it last, or rather, how many uses? I'll be looking forward to your reviews. And I appreciate that you do the destruction test on your expense for everybody out there including me.
I emailed Wiha with link to your Wiha video and how you got almost 200 of us in Chevron Oilfield Midland Texas to but those double end bits for our Surge and Powerassit sog. They replied positively and said they appreciated the info and ask for your channel name
Did Leatherman invent this? I'm trying to find any other versions of this ratcheting hex bit adapter, but nobody else seems to be making this tool, neither before nor after Leatherman. Seriously? Hats off to Learherman, I guess.
Fun fact: if i put it in between lock and forward or between lock and backward then it works more smooth and fine. I set it between indication marks. It feels like it would have more teeth then. Greetings from germany
Great video. Love watching your videos over here in the UK. Leatherman charge £35 over here, which roughly converts to $48.50. Prices are getting very high so I hope mine lasts. It’s getting to the point where it may make more sense taking cheaper or multiple tools to a job rather than risking losing a very expensive Leatherman multitool or accessory…
... fits the sidepocket on Leatherman pouches, takes standard bits and if you want to torque it some, stick a standard bit extender in it and make a handle. None of that wobble you get with using offset drivers
@@larsstenseth2351 oh my God! That makes it more of a status symbol or a collectable than a working tool. Unless wages are higher over there to compensate of course
... and now we need a proper LM 1/4 bit kit, wiha technicians double ended style and/or length ... and oh, happy to have found your channel. excellent.
Carry both, use the original one to apply heavy torque to break a stubborn screw loose, then run it out with the ratcheting one. The thinner one may fit in tighter spots. Will one driver fit into the other ? If so it can help if a longer reach is needed.
Hello, Ben - excellent review, looking forward to your further tests...I agree with you concerning the excessive play...I am no expert, but there shouldn't that much play in the neutral position...Also, I am concerned with how sturdy the plastic is under constant and sometimes rough use and conditions - will it hold up or become brittle under a cold, wet and dirty environment? Thanks for your videos, I enjoy and learn a lot from them...
Thank you. I personally think that the play is a little excessive myself. I’m hoping that that doesn’t affect the overall functionality. But it is definitely an area of concern.
$25 dollars is how much I paid for my Leatherman Free T2. Plastic housing on the direction switching mechanism, only 45 teeth, the play when the driver is set to stationary, made in Taiwan when Leatherman is a famous for it's made in America tools, only a two year warranty... My 1/4 ratcheting Kobalt wrench has 90 teeth. There should be at least 60 teeth in this bit driver. It's definitely possible even at this size. I don't have high hopes for this product.
Better than China but it would be better to find a USA manufacture. Have them give a better warranty. Looking at what it’s geared for it doesn’t have to be a large manufacturer. I always look at made in the USA first then made in Germany or Switzerland next. Enjoy watching your reviews glad I found your channel.
I'm glad I caught your review before I actually went ahead and ordered one of these. I'm having second thoughts after seeing just how much slop there is in it, ya know it will only get worse over time until the point of complete failure. I'm really not impressed with the lack of quality coming out of Leatherman lately. I'll have to see your next testing video before I make my final decision...
Thanks for your review on this. I can see where this might be handy for some. Everyone's use is different. For me, I doubt that I would be using the driver so much with a multi-tool that I would need the convenience of a ratcheting driver, with it's added possible point of failure.
Just got mine today, I'd rather LM made the direction adjustment in steel, add 15 bucks or so to the MSRP, and retain their 25 year warranty. It's unlikely any of us will be using this as our primary ratchet, but LM is expected to take a beating every time it's needed...
Do you know if this Ratchet driver would fit in a typical hex shaped bit socket? I'd like to add this ratcheting driver to the Steelman 10-in-1 pocket screwdriver to create a ratcheting bit driver with built in storage. Never owned a leatherman bit before. I see they are flat but appear to possibly be the same width as a hex bit hole.. Thanks !
That would be a good comparison because I think I will just continue to carry a micro ratchet like the Victorinox which is on my one day list. Right now I just carry a cheap but handy Power Torque branded micro ratchet that I got at Oreilly Auto parts and it works pretty great for edc use and work use in tight spaces.
Thanks for the great review Ben! A lot of hate between the LM community because of the 'Taiwan' and dirt without even had it. I can say it's the accesorie of the year. LM don't even need to bring MT with the ratchet made the year. We need to remember this is a MT accessory this ratchet will not rebuild an engine or build a home. This tool will help you to apply more torque and more comfortable way to use bits. I like it, I dont see too many use but it's the tools that when you need it, you need it and $30 dlls make the difference to save you a pain in the moment. I rather had tools and never use them than need them and don't had it. saludos compadre! MB
I kind of expected that. I personally don’t have a problem with the Taiwanese manufacturing. But tensions are pretty high right now because of the political climate. What bothers me about people bashing on Taiwan and China is, a large number of those people still do their shopping at Walmart. It’s one thing to have those principals, it is quite another to live by them.
@@txtoolcrib 100% agree!!! ✌🏻 I try to support USA businesses but overseas quality it's good too. Just watch Victorinox, Knipex, Apple, Samsung, Wera, Wiha, Veto Pro Pac...and more. I bought my boots from Nick's Handmade, Whites Boots and Redwing Heritage all USA made but I had some premium quality from Japan and CHINA. Indonesia had super high quality too. Well, I like the ratchet. Not the high end quality or any NASA prototype, but it's. Efficient to torqu with the bits and more comfortable using pistol grib ( Ben terminology) doing more faster. At least the surge and wave I know can handle the torque. Im worry about the st300 the torque between frame and pliers it's flexible..
Why couldnt they of gotten with craftsman or snap on to make a good powerful ratchet for this? I'd be willing to drop good money for a brand name partnered tool i can count on. As is, i think ill just stick with the standard bit driver.
Nice 1 Ben can't wait untill you test it on your next video at least been over the pond we can watch your vidz and see if it's a purchase we want to make you was right about the play though wow was a lot still even if it don't hold up I prob will get one lol just to say I got one as part of my rotation I think leatherman missed the trick on the p4 it's another tool I love /hate like juice cs4 had it ages can't open the inner tools with out it snapping or ripping me to bits lol was the s2 the same or do you have a magic trick in your arsenal mate to lossen that tool am thinking of binning it thanks again for all the amazing content followed you for ages all ways tell my m8s to watch the texas tool Crib 👍
Honestly, I don’t use the Juice series enough to wear them out. I do carry the KF4 sometimes, it is my favorite of that line. I wish I could be more helpful.
Not happy with my purchase of the Wave plus. They put the scissors, flathead and small driver on both sides. They forgot the bottle opener and larger bit driver. Returning and buying a Gerber.
That ratchet driver has actually 44 theeth in it's mechanism. Not 45. Leatherman dosnt tell or list the max torque of ratchet. It can work with about 15 Leatherman tools that are now in production, including Surge, Wave/Wave+, the many variants of Charge, Signal and more. As you said and probably as the fans know , it wont work with the Free P series. Is it available in black oxide?
I’ve checked it 5 times, I get 45 every time. I think marketing might have made a mistake. I wish they listed the torque rating, I was really disappointed that they didn’t.
Great review, thanks,, gonna get this, and the Wiha 77781 kit... Incidentally, I hate the nylon leatherman pouches, they seem to rip the hell out of synthetic tee shirts,, So, I'm a leather (charge Al) pouch kinda guy,,, lol...
Not even a month after I bought a Surge, a tiny bit of metal got chipped off the small flat driver... I know Leatherman does free replacements, but living outside of America makes me wanna give up
@@petemitchell6788 I already bought the damn thing for 200 bucks, buddy. I don’t care that others don’t care. What I do care is that Leatherman needs to shape up.
This would be better if they used full metal construction and a sprag roller clutch mechanism. Maybe more expensive but will last forever, there's almost no backlash or actual racheting, and they can give it the 25 year warranty.
Thank u for your reviews- always well done... i broke a spring extender on a oil pan bolt. It broke on the thin adapter side. The sight adjuster bit is made out of s7 steel. Im curious to knw if it is stronger since the rachet version is made of the same steel as the spring one?
I’m not sure what the spring extender is on a oil pan bolt. Trying to rack my brain, but I just can’t place it. What I know about S7 steel, it is not the type of steel that would make a great blade steel, but is ideal for tooling as it has excellent impact and shock resistance. Usually in these tool steels you’ll find S7, D2, or A2. S7 falls right in between A2 and D2 for hardness if I remember correctly.
The only way to get rid of the play in the ratchet assembly would be to mount the rotating components on ball-bearings, which would take up additional space. The ability of a product like this to perform well is fundamentally limited by its size.
Thank you for mentioning production in Taiwan. My brother-in-law is from Taiwan and has schooled me in the differences between "Made in Taiwan" to what he refers to as the "junk" that comes out of China. LOL Over the years I've found this to be true.
Not happy at all as they contract with Taiwan and a 2 year warranty is telling? I have a ratcheting Screw driver with a longer warranty. I would guess there will be a bunch of these coming out. Not crazy about fit and finish and the plastic knob could have easily done in metal.. 45 clicks.... Review is very well done.
Thanks for the video, It's really hard to justify more than $20 for me on this if it has plastic parts. The normal driver/extension is also overpriced but you can get it on sale sometimes for $12-14. So while i have been waiting on the ratchet version, i don't think it's worth it. I can buy a cheap plastic ratchet combo driver and chuck it in my glovebox. and just use the normal extension one for EDC
What I don't understand is this is about the size of a small ratchet driver such as the victorinox or topeak one. So why have this as a tool that only works with the multitool when for the same size pretty much you can have one that works standalone
The amount of play in that thing worries me. I use my bit driver for hours on end at times and I’d be afraid the ratchet mechanism would give out on me within a day or two. For the $30 price tag it should be made in house at the Portland factory. The QC would be better if it was made in house under Tim Leatherman’s eye too
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Already “currently unavailable”, what a surprise :/
That’s Leatherman’s store too! Unreal how fast they are coming off the shelf. I hope they live up to the hype.
@@michallabus96 I was fortunate to order one earlier today. But won't be delivered till May 23rd which is like 2 months from now.
@@TheAzurinBoyz2012 I ordered on off the Leatherman website today, supposed to arrive next week, along with my Surge. Military discount too!
The quality of your content is amazing for a such a small channel. Hope to see you grow in the future!
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate that. My deepest thanks.
He won't be a small channel for long, people can tell when someone cares about what they are talking about!
I also enjoyed this informative vid~
To stretch any pouches I suggest you soak em good in water add tools and let dry~
I got the ratchet recently and after some use together with the Skeletool I could not be happier. I wish they will come up with a shorter version that could then be permanently implemented (or stoved when attached to the bit exchanger) in a multitool. That would be awesome.
I ordered a 3d printed sheath that carries the ratcheting driver and 2 sleeves of bits. It would be hard to implement that into a skeletool though, imo if you need a driver extension and bits, you're better off sheath carrying a more capable multi tool like a wave or charge. I do love the skeletool, that's my go to if I don't wanna belt carry and have a bunch of extra weight I won't need
Also you should drop test the mechanism on the plastic piece to see if it’s brittle! Like on concrete or something👍
I probably will.
Not covered by warranty.
@@petemitchell6788 I’m not really concerned about mine being covered by warranty, I am going to take mine to the breaking point to see just what it can handle anyway, I’m sure that is not covered by warranty.
Waste of a test to be honest, it’s plastic. If dropped on concrete it will definitely get scuffed. And any higher drop will break obviously
No. 1 tool review channel for me. keep the high quality review coming. Thank you.
Btw, I am from Taiwan.
Thank you, thank you for watching too.
Easily #1 agreed!
BTW - I have bought several things after watching your reviews - your Knipex reviews were spot on as well as the reviews on Surge, Crunch and Skeletool. Appreciate it!!
Those are all really good tools, especially the Knipex products. Best in the business in my book!
When I first heard about this I started working on my own because I assumed this would cost a lot more because its leatherman. I’ve managed to build my own using socket and hex adapters with a performance tools ratchet adaptor (the ratcheting piece comes with a lifetime warranty). Built it for around $15 bucks if you ignore the costs of prototyping stages. It’s a bit bigger but it’s all metal construction and I’m not worried about it breaking. I literally finished putting it all together the day they released the leatherman one.
Very nice!
I wish I could use the leatherman ratchet with a hexagonal female tool I have. I have the Big idea Bit bar and would love to plug the leatherman ratchet in but the male piece has a flat head at the end. Any advice on how I might do that?
Can you Make a video
😮 I would love to see what you did with your version, and I'd be willing to pay for one from you plus shipping.
I EDC the SURGE
Leatherman are on a slippery slope with this out sourcing. I have loads of Leatherman tools but since the free stuff came out and now this I'm starting to question where they are heading. Also when Leatherman bought out ledlenser torches the quality dropped dramatically. Great job on the review as always.👍
More ledlenser is made in the far east since LM bought them out , poor business IMO
Heck, even their made in usa stuff has terrible qc... I just got my first leatheman product at xmas(my wife got me a surge) and for 200 dollars canadian i was dissatisfied... All of the outward locking tools had way to much back and forth play and lockups were bottomed out... I have 10 dollar crappy folder with way more secure liner locks... I kept it because it was a present, but if i purchased myself i would have returned it ao quick
@@shawnpepin7890 - Wife got me a swisstool spirit for xmas , sold my rebar to a friend :)
Outsourcing is not really an issue for me, it’s finding the right company to outsource to. Wera outsources some of their stuff, and it is all pretty high quality. I get you point though. They need to tighten the reigns on the quality control, because if they don’t, it could really cause them to head in a downward spiral. My father taught me something a very long time ago. He said, “You can do a 1000 jobs perfect, but it is the one that you do wrong that everyone will talk about.” How true it is! Thanks for watching.
You seem to be quite negative towards Leatherman. I know they have had some quality issues as of late, but they are the best in the business. Unlike Victorinox, which brings a new model out about once every 10 years, they are pushing the envelope. So, I guess I don’t understand why all the hate towards Leatherman.
I have been waiting with 'bated breath for your take on this, Ben. Thanks.
Absolutely! What do you think of this product so far?
I would think the "play" may actually help in certain situations for example getting around door knobs ect. Good review as always looking forward to the torture test!
That’s actually a very good point, one I hadn’t considered.
Wobble extensions or wobble plus like snapon and well...everyone has, for sockets ect, are a gift. That 10 or so degrees of wobble helps so much in a bunch of cases where you'd normally be going at it, MAYBE catching the nut/bolt but with them, you can get the angle and get a good grip. The wobble seems good, as long as its not a longevity problem
My favorite TH-cam channel !! Great video review my friend !! Can’t wait to get mine in the mail this week . 😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙂👍
Thank you very much sir.
I've been following your channel since January 2020, before that I didn't owned a multitool and now I've carried a leatherman surge since may 2020 and its been awesome.
All task my everyday can encounter I can resolve it with my surge.
Awesome channel content and very informative.
Real experience from real usage.
Keep it awesome and see you on the next video.
Saludos desde México Ben.
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Saludos amigo. The Surge is the best multi tool on the planet in my opinion. I’ve used a lot of them, but I always come back to the Surge. It is one of the only ones that can hold up to an industrial environment. I’m very glad yours is serving you well. Thank you for watching my channel, I really appreciate everyone’s support.
Picking mine up at REI today. Thanks for another great, informative, and unbiased review Ben.
I’ll be testing this one out pretty thoroughly this week, let me know if you run into any issues with yours. So far, it seems that it will be capable.
Looks like a good bit of kit, loving your reviews mate keep them coming !
Thank you.
Just got mine friday. REI shipped. Mine actually seems pretty tight, not much play in it, in the locked position or otherwise. I’m curious to see if the others you ordered will have play.
I am too! Maybe it’s a QC issue.
Thank you a ton for covering the carry options for this. As well as everything you've covered in this video. I've been over hyping this for a little bit, I wanted to know everything about it haha
We’ll, it seems to perform well so far. I was expecting a bit tighter tolerances though. We’ll just have to see how it holds up.
I highly appreciate watching your reviews as a small channel myself I try my best to review tools but surely I learn alot from channel like yours and your reviews are very informative. Thanks and keep up good work Sir.
Well I appreciate that very much. Thank you sir. Look forward to seeing more from your channel.
I think I like it, but of course I'm waiting for your hard use review. As you know, the regular bit extender is a tough act to follow!
I might put it through more than most people!
@@txtoolcrib Give em hell chief!
Most epic move was at 2:10 taking Your Leatherman to open with so much feeling and skill that box!!! You got it Bro👌👍🤟!!!
Perfect review, detailed, leaves no questiones what so ever!!! I will buy that leatherman ratchet right now! Thank's so much and all the best!
bought 2...no complaints. i've been waiting for something like this for a long time. i have many tools for many jobs, but i can take my leatherman in my pocket. does work great
I find that just by carrying my Surge, I can do about 60% of the tasks I have to do without having to go back to the toolbox after dedicated tools. You start adding that up over the course of years, who knows how many miles of walking the Surge has saved me.
You beat me to it Ben!! just got mine yesterday. still working on my review and saw yours pop up. Nice work as always sir!
I had to go track one down at REI. I was honestly too anxious to wait. Looking forward to seeing your video and hearing your thoughts.
I just put up the first test video, don’t know if you’ve had an opportunity to see that one yet. Love to hear your experience so far as well.
@@txtoolcrib First impressions are pretty good, it's a lot to pack into a small space, some of those moving parts get start getting pretty small!
@@txtoolcrib Just posted my review. I'm looking forward to putting this thru it's pacs. So far it's held up to my limited testing, I'll give it a run for it's money over the next few weeks.
@@gearsNtools I just caught it. Nicely done!
I’m impressed with how well that screw went in. I purchased one of these waiting for it to come in the mail.
It has held up well so far.
Great content. Makes me happy seeing leatherman put out there.
I EDC my SURGE with a pocket clip. I use my Leatherman Sheath as a toolbox to carry my bits and saw blade. I put the sheath in my front pocket of either my work back pack or on weekends and traveling i keep it in my Kelty Redwing tactical backpack.
Great review. I was looking forward to this accessory and will see how long it last in real world use. It seems solid enough for most tasks, but as you say, time will tell.
First of all, thank you. Like most things, time always tells the tale.
These are going for $199.99 on eBay right now and $145 on Amazon
Another great review Ben. THE best multitool review channel 👌
Cheers 🍻
Thank you, I appreciate that very much.
As always, such a highly considered and fair review. Thank you very much, Ben
Absolutely, thank you for watching.
I made this comment on your channel A WHILE AGO. This is the only channel I'll watch for this kind of review.
I appreciate that very much, thank you.
I got mine about 3 weeks ago and use it just about every day at work never had any issues with it and im pretty hard on my tools
That’s great to hear!
I just got a Wave Plus a bit ago, love the thing, havn't used it a ton, and i thought about the surge, but wanted to keep price down and just try out their smaller more compact EDC type setup. The surge is for sure the way to go for an all out heavy duty deal. This ratchet driver looks awesome, normally i'd be using some junky stanly or some chinease deal which is GIANT and all plastic and overall pretty janky. Love having nice tools which work and last, i think ill have to pick this up, along with the bit kits, so i can do most anything i need without going out to my toolbox ect. Also replaces some cheap bits and bit screwdrivers lol.
Just received my ratchet today from REI (only place I could find it right now). You may be pleasantly surprised that the extra hex hole/holder on the Signal works quite nicely with the ratchet driver.
Maxlvledc just did a video on that very issue. Nice catch, I didn’t even think about it to be honest.
And the Skeletool hammer mod
I violated my two year warrenty; drilled a 1/8 inch hole into the flat part, near the end so I could insert a large key ring, now I can use it for a hand driver/drill and hook it on a belt clip for every day carry
I ordered one the day they came out and thanks for the review I subbed awhile back I enjoy your honest and in depth reviews.
I very much appreciate your subscription and your views, thank you sir.
Great video, I was very excited to see your thoughts on this. It looks very promising. I'd love to see you test it as a ratcheting adapter for non-Leatherman bit drivers as well. It seems like it would work well paired with something like the Milwaukee Fastback 6 in 1 or even a small dedicated bit driver like the Wiha Stubby with bit storage in the handle.
Just did a video pairing it with the FastBack, it’s not ideal, but it seems to work sufficiently for most driving tasks.
pretty strong price tag for what it is IMHO. I'd like to see them using a locking bit-holder on their extensions, as well as a locking mechanism when it's attached to the multitool - I don't know how often the bit or extension with the bit fell off when I retracted them.
I ordered mine direct from Leatherman today and then later that day I broke my Wave. I guess I’m going to have to wait to test mine out. Your video seems to show what I was expecting from the tool.
If possible have a backup, or ten.
@@macgyverbryan1377 -Yeah, I think I’m just looking for an excuse to buy a Surge. Wait a minute? Do I need an excuse?
@@kevola5739 yes there is, a backup/alternate.
Man I love your videos. You do an absolutely amazing job. I'm going to buy a wave + soon based in your review, thanks
Thank you sir. That’s a very good choice!
I like to address a couple concerns people have about price, warranty and the amount of teeth. As far as the price, at $30 Leatherman tested the market and yes we will buy it at that price.
Warranty reasonable for what it is and the amount of abuse "we" will give it.
45 teeth vs 60 or more, 45 allows for a bigger pawl and bigger teeth with the right material it should be stronger for the amount of torque that can be applied to it. The handles on the Leatherman Surge are 4 in Long when you put the tool into a pistol grip configuration it will apply a massive amount of torque compared to it the collapsed position.
I would rather a $30 ratchet break then twist out my bit driver on my Surge.
Great channel love your content
You make some good points. In theory, a 45 toothed driver should be more rugged. Hopefully it would hold up under hard use, we’ll find out.
I'm glad I ordered mine as soon as I saw it.
Looks promising... looking forward to seeing what it's capable of
I’m going to try to get on it pretty quickly.
@@txtoolcrib really do appreciate your videos.
Thank you sir!
Another awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Those of you who are REI members, this may be a good time to pick it up. Our REI dividends and 20% member discounts just went out in the mail, so that should get some of you in the lower $20 range if not more for this item.
Thank you very much.
Great initial breakdown. I'm excited to see what you think after more usage as well.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Thank you for the detailed explanation ~^^ This is the best accessory since LEATHERMAN TOOL ADAPTER. It has not been imported into Korea yet.
You’re very welcome, thank you for watching.
Thanks for the detailed review. The moving plastic part cooled me down on this. How many years of use will it last, or rather, how many uses? I'll be looking forward to your reviews. And I appreciate that you do the destruction test on your expense for everybody out there including me.
I’ll do my best to see how it holds up.
Mine was broken upon delivery via amazon. Looked and felt over torqued. Bought as new in factory package? I can't rotate ring for direction or lock
I emailed Wiha with link to your Wiha video and how you got almost 200 of us in Chevron Oilfield Midland Texas to but those double end bits for our Surge and Powerassit sog. They replied positively and said they appreciated the info and ask for your channel name
Wow! Thank you. I don’t know what to say! I appreciate that very much!
Did Leatherman invent this? I'm trying to find any other versions of this ratcheting hex bit adapter, but nobody else seems to be making this tool, neither before nor after Leatherman. Seriously? Hats off to Learherman, I guess.
Fun fact: if i put it in between lock and forward or between lock and backward then it works more smooth and fine. I set it between indication marks. It feels like it would have more teeth then. Greetings from germany
Been waiting for your review of this 👌
Hope it was worth the wait!
Great video. Love watching your videos over here in the UK. Leatherman charge £35 over here, which roughly converts to $48.50. Prices are getting very high so I hope mine lasts. It’s getting to the point where it may make more sense taking cheaper or multiple tools to a job rather than risking losing a very expensive Leatherman multitool or accessory…
Sealey Ratchet Driver - £13
... fits the sidepocket on Leatherman pouches, takes standard bits and if you want to torque it some, stick a standard bit extender in it and make a handle. None of that wobble you get with using offset drivers
Alternatively, a very compact bike repair kit like a Sealey Rocket Ratchet £22 and replace some of the bits. The Sealey driver is chunkier
That’s nothing, in Norway they take 82$ or 699 Norwegian kroner if you will 😂😂😩
@@larsstenseth2351 oh my God! That makes it more of a status symbol or a collectable than a working tool. Unless wages are higher over there to compensate of course
... and now we need a proper LM 1/4 bit kit, wiha technicians double ended style and/or length ...
and oh, happy to have found your channel. excellent.
Thank you, I appreciate it. Glad to have you on board.
Dammit. I already have it on the way but wouldn’t have purchased if I had known it was made elsewhere. STOP OUTSOURCING leatherman!
Carry both, use the original one to apply heavy torque to break a stubborn screw loose, then run it out with the ratcheting one. The thinner one may fit in tighter spots.
Will one driver fit into the other ? If so it can help if a longer reach is needed.
Hard to argue with that.
Thanks for this vid. Good info and content as always. Going to be patient and order with your link on Amazon, just to show you a little love lol.
Well I appreciate that very much. Thank you. Thanks for taking the time to watch my videos too, really appreciate all of you guys.
Hello, Ben - excellent review, looking forward to your further tests...I agree with you concerning the excessive play...I am no expert, but there shouldn't that much play in the neutral position...Also, I am concerned with how sturdy the plastic is under constant and sometimes rough use and conditions - will it hold up or become brittle under a cold, wet and dirty environment? Thanks for your videos, I enjoy and learn a lot from them...
Thank you. I personally think that the play is a little excessive myself. I’m hoping that that doesn’t affect the overall functionality. But it is definitely an area of concern.
Highly informative video, as always I appreciate your thorough and objective reviews.
Thank you very much. Thanks for taking the time to watch as well.
Ordered mine from REI also the minute they came out because a had some points. We’ll see how long it holds up. Love your videos.
Thank you sir.
$25 dollars is how much I paid for my Leatherman Free T2.
Plastic housing on the direction switching mechanism, only 45 teeth, the play when the driver is set to stationary, made in Taiwan when Leatherman is a famous for it's made in America tools, only a two year warranty...
My 1/4 ratcheting Kobalt wrench has 90 teeth. There should be at least 60 teeth in this bit driver. It's definitely possible even at this size. I don't have high hopes for this product.
Your concerns basically mirror my own. I’m going to put this thing thru it’s paces, we’ll just have to see.
@@txtoolcrib Sounds good. Thank you very much for doing this unboxing and walkthrough. Very useful!
Absolutely!
Fantastic video. Besides, your ring is quite cool man. Can you some hint about it? (Brand, material etc.) thanks alot
Better than China but it would be better to find a USA manufacture. Have them give a better warranty. Looking at what it’s geared for it doesn’t have to be a large manufacturer. I always look at made in the USA first then made in Germany or Switzerland next. Enjoy watching your reviews glad I found your channel.
I'm glad I caught your review before I actually went ahead and ordered one of these. I'm having second thoughts after seeing just how much slop there is in it, ya know it will only get worse over time until the point of complete failure. I'm really not impressed with the lack of quality coming out of Leatherman lately. I'll have to see your next testing video before I make my final decision...
I’m going to try to work it in this week.
Thanks for your review on this. I can see where this might be handy for some. Everyone's use is different. For me, I doubt that I would be using the driver so much with a multi-tool that I would need the convenience of a ratcheting driver, with it's added possible point of failure.
Thank you very much for taking the time to watch. I certainly understand your concerns.
Just got mine today, I'd rather LM made the direction adjustment in steel, add 15 bucks or so to the MSRP, and retain their 25 year warranty. It's unlikely any of us will be using this as our primary ratchet, but LM is expected to take a beating every time it's needed...
I've just ordered mine today from Amazon. ETA is May 23rd...good Lord!!!
Would have loved it of you compared it to Victorinox's ratchet driver.
Eventually!
Do you know if this Ratchet driver would fit in a typical hex shaped bit socket?
I'd like to add this ratcheting driver to the Steelman 10-in-1 pocket screwdriver to create a ratcheting bit driver with built in storage.
Never owned a leatherman bit before. I see they are flat but appear to possibly be the same width as a hex bit hole..
Thanks !
My hope is leatherman supertool300 + removable extension+ ratchet driver. I'm hoping
Great review. Think I am going to pass to see how it works longer term
I’m going to try to get a video up in the next few days. I’m anxious to see if it will hold up myself.
Paired with the Makita screw bits this is awesome
I'm glad I watched this first,do you think it's worth buying to have for the money
Yeah I think so, it provide pretty decent torque for what it is. Use it as it is intended to be used and it should last quite a while.
@@txtoolcrib ,ok ty
@@txtoolcrib I'm waiting on for someone to do a review on the roxon tool knife
For when a comparison between this and the victorinox ratchet? Thanks
Fairly soon, I want to test this one out pretty thoroughly first.
That would be a good comparison because I think I will just continue to carry a micro ratchet like the Victorinox which is on my one day list. Right now I just carry a cheap but handy Power Torque branded micro ratchet that I got at Oreilly Auto parts and it works pretty great for edc use and work use in tight spaces.
Thanks for the great review Ben!
A lot of hate between the LM community because of the 'Taiwan' and dirt without even had it.
I can say it's the accesorie of the year. LM don't even need to bring MT with the ratchet made the year.
We need to remember this is a MT accessory this ratchet will not rebuild an engine or build a home. This tool will help you to apply more torque and more comfortable way to use bits.
I like it, I dont see too many use but it's the tools that when you need it, you need it and $30 dlls make the difference to save you a pain in the moment. I rather had tools and never use them than need them and don't had it.
saludos compadre!
MB
I kind of expected that. I personally don’t have a problem with the Taiwanese manufacturing. But tensions are pretty high right now because of the political climate. What bothers me about people bashing on Taiwan and China is, a large number of those people still do their shopping at Walmart. It’s one thing to have those principals, it is quite another to live by them.
@@txtoolcrib 100% agree!!! ✌🏻
I try to support USA businesses but overseas quality it's good too. Just watch Victorinox, Knipex, Apple, Samsung, Wera, Wiha, Veto Pro Pac...and more. I bought my boots from Nick's Handmade, Whites Boots and Redwing Heritage all USA made but I had some premium quality from Japan and CHINA. Indonesia had super high quality too.
Well, I like the ratchet. Not the high end quality or any NASA prototype, but it's. Efficient to torqu with the bits and more comfortable using pistol grib ( Ben terminology) doing more faster. At least the surge and wave I know can handle the torque. Im worry about the st300 the torque between frame and pliers it's flexible..
I’m going to try it out with the ST300 and Rebar as well.
Did you ever get pictures of my leather work
I know leatherman makes a removable extension which fits on the 3D Phillips so I believe it'll work with the rebar and super tool
Why couldnt they of gotten with craftsman or snap on to make a good powerful ratchet for this? I'd be willing to drop good money for a brand name partnered tool i can count on. As is, i think ill just stick with the standard bit driver.
Nice 1 Ben can't wait untill you test it on your next video at least been over the pond we can watch your vidz and see if it's a purchase we want to make you was right about the play though wow was a lot still even if it don't hold up I prob will get one lol just to say I got one as part of my rotation I think leatherman missed the trick on the p4 it's another tool I love /hate like juice cs4 had it ages can't open the inner tools with out it snapping or ripping me to bits lol was the s2 the same or do you have a magic trick in your arsenal mate to lossen that tool am thinking of binning it thanks again for all the amazing content followed you for ages all ways tell my m8s to watch the texas tool Crib 👍
Honestly, I don’t use the Juice series enough to wear them out. I do carry the KF4 sometimes, it is my favorite of that line. I wish I could be more helpful.
I wasn’t aware of the 2 year warranty part. Just out of curiosity, did Victorinox shorten the warranty on their ratchet set.
It seems to me a simple small mini driver with a folding handle that doesn't attach to the Leatherman would do just fine and costs less.
Would love to see a micro Yankee Screwdriver attachment at some point
Always great content.
Not happy with my purchase of the Wave plus. They put the scissors, flathead and small driver on both sides. They forgot the bottle opener and larger bit driver. Returning and buying a Gerber.
That ratchet driver has actually 44 theeth in it's mechanism. Not 45.
Leatherman dosnt tell or list the max torque of ratchet.
It can work with about 15 Leatherman tools that are now in production, including Surge, Wave/Wave+, the many variants of Charge, Signal and more.
As you said and probably as the fans know , it wont work with the Free P series.
Is it available in black oxide?
I’ve checked it 5 times, I get 45 every time. I think marketing might have made a mistake. I wish they listed the torque rating, I was really disappointed that they didn’t.
I’m still waiting for both of mine to come in. I can’t wait!!!
When are they due to arrive?
@@txtoolcrib one tomorrow and one a week after!
@@txtoolcrib just came home to the ratchet driver, and I fckn love the thing, tbh
That’s awesome. Let me know what you think when you’ve had a chance to use it for a little while.
@@txtoolcrib will do
Great review, thanks,, gonna get this, and the Wiha 77781 kit...
Incidentally, I hate the nylon leatherman pouches, they seem to rip the hell out of synthetic tee shirts,,
So, I'm a leather (charge Al) pouch kinda guy,,, lol...
I prefer leather cases myself.
I am kinda disappointed with leathermans quality control lately and there decisions in manufacturing considering how high there prices are getting
I don’t disagree. I’ve seen a lot of things make it out the door that shouldn’t have.
Not even a month after I bought a Surge, a tiny bit of metal got chipped off the small flat driver... I know Leatherman does free replacements, but living outside of America makes me wanna give up
Then buy something else. Nobody on TH-cam cares what you think.
@@charliediep please do.
@@petemitchell6788 I already bought the damn thing for 200 bucks, buddy. I don’t care that others don’t care. What I do care is that Leatherman needs to shape up.
Люфты устройства критические как считаете ? Общее впечатление стоит ли покупать или обойтись переходником удлинителем который можно сделать и самому ?
This would be better if they used full metal construction and a sprag roller clutch mechanism. Maybe more expensive but will last forever, there's almost no backlash or actual racheting, and they can give it the 25 year warranty.
That play kinda bothers me. I may have to get one. Lol. Great review.
Great video.
Thank you very much.
@@txtoolcrib your welcome.
Thank u for your reviews- always well done... i broke a spring extender on a oil pan bolt. It broke on the thin adapter side. The sight adjuster bit is made out of s7 steel. Im curious to knw if it is stronger since the rachet version is made of the same steel as the spring one?
I’m not sure what the spring extender is on a oil pan bolt. Trying to rack my brain, but I just can’t place it. What I know about S7 steel, it is not the type of steel that would make a great blade steel, but is ideal for tooling as it has excellent impact and shock resistance. Usually in these tool steels you’ll find S7, D2, or A2. S7 falls right in between A2 and D2 for hardness if I remember correctly.
The only way to get rid of the play in the ratchet assembly would be to mount the rotating components on ball-bearings, which would take up additional space. The ability of a product like this to perform well is fundamentally limited by its size.
I feel like that play will cause wear overtime and cause if to fail but I hope I’m wrong!
It’s possible, and an area of concern.
Thank you for mentioning production in Taiwan. My brother-in-law is from Taiwan and has schooled me in the differences between "Made in Taiwan" to what he refers to as the "junk" that comes out of China. LOL Over the years I've found this to be true.
Taiwanese manufacturing is pretty good. Some big name companies manufacturer their products there.
Not happy at all as they contract with Taiwan and a 2 year warranty is telling?
I have a ratcheting Screw driver with a longer warranty.
I would guess there will be a bunch of these coming out. Not crazy about fit and finish and the plastic knob could have easily done in metal..
45 clicks....
Review is very well done.
Thanks for the video, It's really hard to justify more than $20 for me on this if it has plastic parts. The normal driver/extension is also overpriced but you can get it on sale sometimes for $12-14. So while i have been waiting on the ratchet version, i don't think it's worth it. I can buy a cheap plastic ratchet combo driver and chuck it in my glovebox. and just use the normal extension one for EDC
The new Leatherman vibrating cutter attachment is awesome….. its cutting quality depends on how fast your wrist is…..
What I don't understand is this is about the size of a small ratchet driver such as the victorinox or topeak one. So why have this as a tool that only works with the multitool when for the same size pretty much you can have one that works standalone
It's a valid question. I think it is a matter of preference for the end user.
@@txtoolcrib That's fair I personally like the victorinox one as a sorta cheater bar for a larger screwdriver
An added benefit with a stand alone, you can use the pliers as a backup.
@@txtoolcrib Yea exactly there's always a benefit to having standalone tools because you can used them in combination.
The amount of play in that thing worries me. I use my bit driver for hours on end at times and I’d be afraid the ratchet mechanism would give out on me within a day or two. For the $30 price tag it should be made in house at the Portland factory. The QC would be better if it was made in house under Tim Leatherman’s eye too
I got mine in and it feels a bit gritty. When driving screws it didn’t feel bad. I’m using a Klein 32483 bit that’s double ended
That doesn’t sound right. Maybe you should send yours back.
When I spin it I can feel it gets looser and tighter. Sending it back was the first thing I thought