Natalie Jones it was funny that, and that little scream!!! Cannan didn't have a comeback on that! He slinked off after that! No in all seriousness she was courageous as he's an evil bastard who deserves to be in a cage..
robert smith I live in Wales,UK, know a few shotgun owners for hunting (licenced) but that's it thankfully! Never heard of anyone with a handgun etc I'd be terrified to live in the US
where I live in Australia there was a murder in 1968 - a young woman named Lucille Butterworth was picked up by a man as she waited for a bus. She was about 19. She has never been found but the police know who did it....a man who later went to prison for the murder of another woman. They know he killed Lucille, (he actually told another prisoner he did it) but because they haven’t found the body and because he won’t confess to the police they haven’t got the proof that they need for a conviction. The girls parents and her two older brothers and her boyfriend worked for years to try and get a conviction or at least some idea of where her body is but to no avail. Both her parents and one brother have since died without knowing the truth. The man will not be getting out of gaol because of the other murder he committed but he will not come clean and give them closure. The family have suffered greatly over the years and it is so sad.
I know police get criticised, but in the main they do a good job, lots of paperwork, filing, and leg work was nescessary and mental skill, long before mobile technology
. Toy Toy - There's probably a TH-cam video of it. I can't find one, though. Meanwhile, here's an otter looking indignant about the suggestion that s/he would pass wind underwater. i.pinimg.com/originals/21/08/e5/2108e59a674545f27acb69573c53f1ee.jpg Cannan certainly wasn't the sharpest piece of cutlery in the drawer. Parking Shirley Banks's Mini virtually on his own doorstep - disguised or not - wasn't the brightest idea. Keeping the vehicle's tax disc in his own car seems crazy. And why hang about in the immediate vicinity after the Leamington Spa incident rather than, say, hopping on the nearest bus or a train? .
They say the SLP is Suzy lamplugh the 3 means the third victim the 86 is the year of death and the s the manner of death strangulation. The fact that he was fusing it to another possession of someone he had murdered is quite terrifying. Pretty sure he would have soon be using this to either scope for victims or to add to over the years with different mementos of victims.
He seems to have developed this persona to hide his underlying personality. Trying to make out he was some kind of superior, eloquent person. It seems to have been how he attracted a lot of women too. He's clearly a man with delusions of grandeur and and lot of self entitlement. He seems very much to want to have power, or feel like he has power, over other people in one way or another.
Omg... forensics have come a long way, looks so odd everyone picking up evidence without gloves and chucking it in the back of a car! Suzy Lampugh, I remember that case so clearly when she went missing, I've often throughout the years checked up to see any progress on her. Sadly her parents passed away without knowing what happened to their daughter. They do have a charity called the Suzy Lampugh trust which helps women. This is the case that hooked me on true crime.
Christ, the quiet dignity of the parents of that murdered young woman, heart-breaking; what to do with criminal psychopaths, unhuman beings that are wired up all wrong, malevolent and narcissistic but not mentally ill ? Well, execute them for a start, and the world will sleep the sleep of the righteous.....
a thought I often consider. Cluster Bs are beyond a nightmare However, I'd also add the need for better parenting and the need to address confront dysfunctional, broken families. These create the hotbed for these cretins to emerge
I live in Bristol and remember this case so well. My girlfriend of the time used to go late night shopping in the weeks leading up to Christmas (late night opening pre-Christmas was a fairly new concept then) and there was a feeling that this could've happened to any of our partners. Also used to drink and socialise in Clifton Village at the time and knew Richard Banks' face as an occasional drinker in my local. In my opinion John Cannan was the British Ted Bundy (charming, good-looking, intelligent) and would've continued killing indefinitely had it not been for the bungled incident n Leamington Spa. What this documentary fails to cover in any detail is his prevous rape conviction for which he recieved 8 years. He walked into a shop where a young woman was working alone with her 4-year old son. Cannan locked the door and ordered them both at knifepoint into the back room. As he was preparaing to assault her, the shop doorbell rang and she told Cannan it was her mother, who'd arranged to meet for lunch. Cannan held the child at knifepoint and ordered her to bring her mother into the shop pretending everything was normal and then raped the woman in front of her mother and four-year old child before making his escape. For this he recieved eight years and served six! Very dangerous man indeed - textbook predatory psychopath.
You're right, but in the 1981 clothes shop rape, the victim's child was only 17 months old (and the victim was pregnant at the time). Also, John Cannan served only 5 years of his paltry 8 year sentence for that heinous rape - and surprise, surprise, raped and murdered soon after his release. He's also suspected of murdering Sandra McCourt in Bournemouth towards the end of his sentence when he was allowed out on day release. When will societies wake up and realise sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated and remain a danger to the vulnerable indefinitely? Rape is the most serious crime there is next to murder - and it can be a very short step from one crime to the other. Sentences for sexual offences should be far heavier - these men are incredibly dangerous, and the public must be protected from them! If John Cannan had got a proper prison sentence of at least 10 years for that terrible 1981 rape, Shirley Banks would be alive (murdered in 1987), and possibly Suzy Lamplugh too, who Cannan is suspected of killing soon after his release from jail in 1986. Incredibly, John Cannan comes up for parole in 2022. I cannot believe he will ever be released (though the release of sex killer Colin Pitchfork shows anything's possible). After his conviction for the kidnap and murder of a woman, Cannan should never get parole. In the US they have the right idea - life means life, and a murder conviction means the killer will die in jail.
@@thebadloser What's the answer for serial sex offenders? It seems society regards a life sentence as out of the question. Yet such people are not changed for the better by a short prison sentence. Some countries use castration (mostly chemical), as a measure to render sex offenders safer once released.
Shame on the woman that basically came across the scene of the man hurting the woman and did nothing...what kind of person does that..poor excuse for a human being, If afraid she could have literally reported it rather than confront the guy. so so wrong. She may have saved the woman's life.
The police had real reservations about that woman's story. She only came forward once the details were out in the public domain. They felt that she may well have been making it all up, possibly for attention.
Polly Klass’s father says the family needs to cooperate to be eliminated early, including a polygraph! Adam Walsh’s dad says the same thing! Don’t be defensive because u will only hold up the works!
Not as intelligent as he himself thought - although he seemed desperate to think he was. In another documentary they highlighted bits from the dating agency video he made where he used words that he clearly didn't understand and got wrong (for example saying sedimentary instead of sedentary). All part of major the chip on his shoulder he appears to have had.
I was on my Duke of Edinburgh award exercise and when we were dropped off at a location to make our way to camp, we were stopped in the minibus and told to take a different route as a discovery had been made. Pretty sure it may have been Shirley. It was near where she was found. What police should have put out was a request for information on anyone seen in a yellow mini driving towards Dead Woman's Ditch on the night she disappeared. My opinion is that she was taken straight there. Cannan needed her mini to get home and with no interior lights - an impossible task of wiping his fingerprints. If he was in Suzies car, he would have left prints. Did police find any prints on the steering wheel? If so, it clearly was not wiped and Cannans would be there if he was the one who drove it and altered the seat.
She rang in work the next day and her print was found in his flat on a note that never left his flat. I think the poor girl was stuffed in the monks chest
The woman not coming forward is absolutely shocking. However, nothing was explained about if there was any physical evidence at that spot; any footprints or blood or hair of another victim? Very strange not to comb that area. All the police did was shout at someone in a car to see if they could be heard 🤷🏼♂️
The police had major reservations about that woman. They felt she may well have been making it all up for attention - she only came forward when the details were in the public domain.
@@traceyclarke5475 The police had major reservations about that woman. They felt she may well have been making it all up for attention - she only came forward when the details were in the public domain.
I appreciate the British policeman’s patience and that they are using their skills at detection to pick apart his story but eventually you wish they’d just tell him to quit his lying or they’ll clobber him with their billy clubs.
That's the kind of ridiculous nonsense that stupid old people say who are clueless about the modern world. Violent crime like that is actually lower now than that it was then.
@@guy4469 Maybe in the 1980's but not today. Going out with a knife or gun and raping someone would get you at least 15 years. Robbery with a weapon would also be at least 5 years. With a previous recrod you could be looking at a life sentence even. I think under UK law today anyone who is convicted of a second serious violent or sexual crime has to be sentenced to life. Also a few years ago they changed the parole process so that you have to serve at least two thirds of a sentence and not half anymore before applying for parole.
Banks jammed driver's side door should have saved her....because he couldn't open it and order into the passenger seat...as was his MO. Maybe he offered to try to un jam it when he saw her setting in the passenger side?
The woman who saw him beating and dragging the lady, and hearing the lady plead for her life and simply drove away! She should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting a criminal. She's got some blame in this murder by simply not caring enough to call the police. I hope karma paid her back for her selfish inaction.
What's not reported here is the spectacular errors the police made with the Suzy Lamplugh case. They failed to properly investigate Cannan at the time, failed to investigate his alibi, failed to properly speak to his exes (one of whom turned out to be an important witness to incriminating things he'd said). Det Supt Hackett ordered his officers to try and eliminate Cannan from Suzy's case and believed that stories in the press linking Cannan to Suzy's murder had been planted by Suzy's family. Hackett had fallen out with Suzy's mother.
@@ThenorthsaceSuzy white Ford Fiesta was a company car and was Untaxted from the 1 AUGUST 1990, around the 2002 remember watching suzy lamplugh documentary. I don't know if it was her car. But it was showing the registration B396 GAN
The police actually thought the woman may have been making it all up. She only came forward once the details were in the public domain, and the police felt she may have been a fantasist who was attention seeking.
Good eye...There's another one in the Larry Bird (sp?) murder reconstruction.....The man found strangled with a scarf at the back of The Old Pump House.
As with so many sex offenders and murderers, it's about control and power more than anything. Cannan clearly had issues with needing to feel power and prestige, so constructed this bizarre persona whereby he could pretend he was a successful, sophisticated and intelligent businessman. His murdering and rape allowed him to feel power and control over his victims. So much of it is traced back to childhood - either being made to feel worthless, or being given a deep sense of self entitlement. Apparently his father was very abusive and aggressive and his mother was smothering. A similar pattern with a lot of other offenders, in one way or another.
He's a sexual predator, and obviously the parole board was softened by his lies to let him out so early for such a horrific rape. Women have little value don't they?
I'm not sure society as a whole understood sex offenders and how they operate. You hear of so many cases back then of children being raped and the offender just getting a fine. Shocking to think that there was no such thing as the sex offenders register until the Blair government in the late 90s.
35:58 Just in case the penny hasn't dropped yet: she's absolutely stark raving mad. Why didn't she alert the Police on the day? Easy: because it never happened.
It's so sad that murder enquiries seem to bring out a lot of delusional attention seekers. It makes the police's job so much harder. I remember seeing another documentary about some woman who was absolutely obsessed that Peter Sutcliffe had come into the café she worked in with an accomplice who she thought was the man who sent in the fake tapes from Sunderland. She was absolutely obsessive and had got into a very long correspondence with Peter Sutcliffe over many years, saying she knew what had happened. It had really taken over her family life too.
Am sure I’ve watched a doc with this guy for the estate agent susie lamplugh a think me kipper he was a suspect this dude and a bloody good one by the look of it
poor shirley held captive in his flat. when her body was found she was wearing the dress that she had bought from top shop, which means cannan forced shirley to put on her new dress during her captivity. was this some kind of sex game.
She was found naked according to news reports. Buttons at the scene were believed to have come from the dress. We don't actually know what she bought as the receipt was never found and items were not (and still not) listed on credit card purchases via bank statements.
Nope, he's not getting out. And he's terminally ill. www.itv.com/news/london/2022-06-15/family-begs-seriously-ill-prime-suspect-in-suzy-lamplugh-case-to-speak
On 9 October 2023 his request for early release was denied by a Parole Board, so he is still behind bars. His change of being released is nil, because he was jailed before from 1981 to 1986 for other sex offences......
@@ramatgan1 Exactly. He certainly couldn't tell police where he bought it and asked police where the auction was. As admitted by the investigating officer Bryan Saunders.
Jeanette Cardinal I'm not too familiar with the facts. I do believe Police have been very reluctant to solve some of these connecting crimes. The evidence is everywhere. No appeals for fresh information on this crime and others.
Jeanette Cardinal Police have made a fatal mistake in keeping a lot from those at the top. They aren't having finances and pensions cut for no reason. It will get worse. They are proving they are not fit for purpose in so many ways.
Jeanette Cardinal The Police were scared. There are other connections around Gangland and I believe police officers didn't want these types knocking on their doors or setting fire to their homes .
He killed Suzy and threw her in a canal in a suitcase 🧳 and a man seen him at 6 o’clock in the morning and they still haven’t send people to look at the water 💧 we’re he threw it . They are a disgrace to human life because if it was there daughter or a family member they would look 👀!!!!!!
you cant say its not worth the paper its written on ,now days whats a cheque .ill send it over my phone .and in sweeden you can have a chip in your thumb for £5000, and pay for things using your thumb .cool
I Watched a lot of documentaries and reports about Suzy Case and in my humble opinion I don't believe she's dead instead chose to leaves The past and her life with some one she's deeply in loved with The possibility of leaving England...
Missing 411 case , Police & TV ALWAYS have a sinister side to a story they cannot solve recomend you go watch the documentary Missing 411 David Paulidies - he also has a YT channel Can am missing project . We NEED ONE IN THE UK !
Shirley Banks spoke to her boss on the phone the morning after she failed to go home, someone phoned for a taxi for a pickup from Cannan's flat, as he sent the driver away it seems it may have been Shirley Banks who rang. Two things there that make me wonder if she willingly went back to his place the night before. It also seems strange her husband although expecting her home that night and with pre-arranged plans with her, did not call the police until the next day and apparently didn't contact anyone else either, friends, family, only her boss but that must have been after 9am. Was he used to her staying out overnight and no phone call to inform him, that is odd to me. My theory is she went back to Cannan's flat for a bit of how's your father, next day she rings up work hungover and makes her excuses, phones a taxi and gives Cannan the brush off. He being possessive and insecure isn't happy and knocks her out after an argument and a bit of pushing and shoving. He then murders her, she may have threatened him with the police after she came to or he wasn't taking any chances, he might have done it in a rage after she indicated their night together was a one-off. The location of the murder, who knows.
If she made the call from Cannans flat it would show on his phone logs? Or police will know it was made. The fact they never used it as evidence suggests it was never made from his flat. Because she was not there? If police had a direct peice of proof, they wouldn't have spent ages trying to get him charged. I'm still dubious about the thumbprint police claim they found on a document. A tax disc maybe but to say it was found on a letter in his property if she was never in it is worrisome in terms of reliable evidence.
Cannan had used a gun on Julia Holman and had used knives. He was probably standing next to her threatening to kill her if she said anything untoward. The fact that someone called a taxi probably meant that she had un-gagged herself and managed to call a taxi but in that case why didn’t she scream the place down ? Cannan had neighbours. Moreover, we know Cannan had handcuffs and rope so she was more likely tied up.
@@user-br3bw7wr2l If a call was made to Shirley's workplace from Cannan's flat there would be evidence of that. It would have led police straight to him. We don't know for sure what Cannan had. I have seen documentaries which show a revolver type gun as his weapon yet I also seen a Crimewatch real CCTV video where somebody resembling Cannan was holding up a premise with a short type pistol handgun. Christopher Berry-Dee alleges Cannan asked a Mr Big (Bristol connections) to get him a gun. I learned of Karl (AKA Mr big in the early 1990s) he was connected to massage parlours too. (Mr big). Odd how nobody knows his surname . The media cannot be trusted. Look at the shyness over Wayne Lomas murder by Bristol post. Why aren't THE Guardian going mad?
i think she had gone for a drink with work mates and then went shoing. her husband thought she must have got squiffy and stayed at a friend's house overnight.
I miss Crimewatch. It was great back in the day
I miss back in the day!
"Piss off" to a gunman 😂 can you get anymore British 😂
Natalie Jones it was funny that, and that little scream!!! Cannan didn't have a comeback on that! He slinked off after that! No in all seriousness she was courageous as he's an evil bastard who deserves to be in a cage..
bascet1 she was made of strong stuff fair play to her!! Bet she had a cup of sugary tea for the shock 🙈
she probably did n't believe it was real. guns are n't that common in the UK,
robert smith I live in Wales,UK, know a few shotgun owners for hunting (licenced) but that's it thankfully! Never heard of anyone with a handgun etc I'd be terrified to live in the US
Whereabouts on the video is that?
That witness seeing and hearing what she did AND not coming forward promptly was just truly unfathomable!
Yeh that done me :/ shockin really
The police were very sceptical of what she said - think they believed she'd made it up and was an attention seeker
Excellent story. I hope he won't be paroled again. They really don't change too much. RIP, Ladies.😢
where I live in Australia there was a murder in 1968 - a young woman named Lucille Butterworth was picked up by a man as she waited for a bus. She was about 19. She has never been found but the police know who did it....a man who later went to prison for the murder of another woman. They know he killed Lucille, (he actually told another prisoner he did it) but because they haven’t found the body and because he won’t confess to the police they haven’t got the proof that they need for a conviction.
The girls parents and her two older brothers and her boyfriend worked for years to try and get a conviction or at least some idea of where her body is but to no avail. Both her parents and one brother have since died without knowing the truth. The man will not be getting out of gaol because of the other murder he committed but he will not come clean and give them closure. The family have suffered greatly over the years and it is so sad.
Great upload. Nice to see people with good manners/vocabulary and speaking clearly.
Totally agree with you.
I often think that I'm the only one who notices these things.
@@FlyAmeliaEarheart It's two of us. It's sad to see how things have changed in just three decades.
I know police get criticised, but in the main they do a good job, lots of paperwork, filing, and leg work was nescessary and mental skill, long before mobile technology
Posh accents were fashionable in those days
Till you get to the comments anyway :P
Cannan is about as "sophisticated" as an otter farting in a lake... -_-
How would u know. Ever seen an otter farting in a lake ?
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Toy Toy - There's probably a TH-cam video of it. I can't find one, though.
Meanwhile, here's an otter looking indignant about the suggestion that s/he would pass wind underwater.
i.pinimg.com/originals/21/08/e5/2108e59a674545f27acb69573c53f1ee.jpg
Cannan certainly wasn't the sharpest piece of cutlery in the drawer. Parking Shirley Banks's Mini virtually on his own doorstep - disguised or not - wasn't the brightest idea. Keeping the vehicle's tax disc in his own car seems crazy. And why hang about in the immediate vicinity after the Leamington Spa incident rather than, say, hopping on the nearest bus or a train?
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I've seen a water-vole fart in a pond and that wasn't sophisticated, if that's any help.
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
Agreed. The dating video he made shows him for the pretentious, narcissistic piece of dirt he really is
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
They say the SLP is Suzy lamplugh the 3 means the third victim the 86 is the year of death and the s the manner of death strangulation. The fact that he was fusing it to another possession of someone he had murdered is quite terrifying. Pretty sure he would have soon be using this to either scope for victims or to add to over the years with different mementos of victims.
9:42 Man walks into a women's dress shop wearing a crash helmet. Kind of a red flag.
Andy JS Right .
And kind of gay
Like fully gay
I´m going nowhere without a black crash helmet on my head. I´m stylish as hell.
Crashy McHelmetface
Narcissism at it’s finest
& psychopathy.
The actor got him off to a tee.
Out in a matter of months.
@@ajs41 nope. He's not getting out.
@@ajs41 hes done 33 years and last year 2023 denied parole.
God he really loved to talk, I wonder what the coppers thought when interviewing him?
He seems to have developed this persona to hide his underlying personality. Trying to make out he was some kind of superior, eloquent person. It seems to have been how he attracted a lot of women too. He's clearly a man with delusions of grandeur and and lot of self entitlement. He seems very much to want to have power, or feel like he has power, over other people in one way or another.
Yep he was an actor .
Omg... forensics have come a long way, looks so odd everyone picking up evidence without gloves and chucking it in the back of a car! Suzy Lampugh, I remember that case so clearly when she went missing, I've often throughout the years checked up to see any progress on her. Sadly her parents passed away without knowing what happened to their daughter. They do have a charity called the Suzy Lampugh trust which helps women. This is the case that hooked me on true crime.
Suzy lamplugh
The charity helps everyone, stalking victims, children, English speakers traveling abroad and lone workers stay safe.
Wonderful production clear logical no repetition and better still no irritating music 😊❤
Christ, the quiet dignity of the parents of that murdered young woman, heart-breaking; what to do with criminal psychopaths, unhuman beings that are wired up all wrong, malevolent and narcissistic but not mentally ill ? Well, execute them for a start, and the world will sleep the sleep of the righteous.....
a thought I often consider. Cluster Bs are beyond a nightmare
However, I'd also add the need for better parenting and the need to address confront dysfunctional, broken families. These create the hotbed for these cretins to emerge
That was her step-mother....just for facts.
I would feed that evil man to a crocodile but its not fair to feed a decent creature like a crocodile poison!
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
I live in Bristol and remember this case so well. My girlfriend of the time used to go late night shopping in the weeks leading up to Christmas (late night opening pre-Christmas was a fairly new concept then) and there was a feeling that this could've happened to any of our partners. Also used to drink and socialise in Clifton Village at the time and knew Richard Banks' face as an occasional drinker in my local. In my opinion John Cannan was the British Ted Bundy (charming, good-looking, intelligent) and would've continued killing indefinitely had it not been for the bungled incident n Leamington Spa.
What this documentary fails to cover in any detail is his prevous rape conviction for which he recieved 8 years. He walked into a shop where a young woman was working alone with her 4-year old son. Cannan locked the door and ordered them both at knifepoint into the back room. As he was preparaing to assault her, the shop doorbell rang and she told Cannan it was her mother, who'd arranged to meet for lunch. Cannan held the child at knifepoint and ordered her to bring her mother into the shop pretending everything was normal and then raped the woman in front of her mother and four-year old child before making his escape. For this he recieved eight years and served six! Very dangerous man indeed - textbook predatory psychopath.
He should have had his knackers removed after that.
Urgh what an evil man.
You're right, but in the 1981 clothes shop rape, the victim's child was only 17 months old (and the victim was pregnant at the time). Also, John Cannan served only 5 years of his paltry 8 year sentence for that heinous rape - and surprise, surprise, raped and murdered soon after his release.
He's also suspected of murdering Sandra McCourt in Bournemouth towards the end of his sentence when he was allowed out on day release. When will societies wake up and realise sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated and remain a danger to the vulnerable indefinitely? Rape is the most serious crime there is next to murder - and it can be a very short step from one crime to the other. Sentences for sexual offences should be far heavier - these men are incredibly dangerous, and the public must be protected from them!
If John Cannan had got a proper prison sentence of at least 10 years for that terrible 1981 rape, Shirley Banks would be alive (murdered in 1987), and possibly Suzy Lamplugh too, who Cannan is suspected of killing soon after his release from jail in 1986.
Incredibly, John Cannan comes up for parole in 2022. I cannot believe he will ever be released (though the release of sex killer Colin Pitchfork shows anything's possible). After his conviction for the kidnap and murder of a woman, Cannan should never get parole. In the US they have the right idea - life means life, and a murder conviction means the killer will die in jail.
@@glamdolly30 True, but he would've still come out and killed other women, just different victims, a few years later.
@@thebadloser What's the answer for serial sex offenders? It seems society regards a life sentence as out of the question. Yet such people are not changed for the better by a short prison sentence.
Some countries use castration (mostly chemical), as a measure to render sex offenders safer once released.
Shame on the woman that basically came across the scene of the man hurting the woman and did nothing...what kind of person does that..poor excuse for a human being, If afraid she could have literally reported it rather than confront the guy. so so wrong. She may have saved the woman's life.
Suzanne Rossi staggering...
Yes, terrible. You'd think the first thing she'd do after witnessing something so horrific was report it.
They were a very elderly couple and it wasn't quite as clear cut as presented.
The police had real reservations about that woman's story. She only came forward once the details were out in the public domain. They felt that she may well have been making it all up, possibly for attention.
I agree. Maybe not as guilty but as bad!
Polly Klass’s father says the family needs to cooperate to be eliminated early, including a polygraph! Adam Walsh’s dad says the same thing! Don’t be defensive because u will only hold up the works!
Poor women to have to come across a true Monster like Cannan
“A very intelligent man.” Not really: he got caught!
Just because someone gets caught for something doesn't make them less intelligent 😂
Lol
He was also stupid enough to commit crimes.
Not as intelligent as he himself thought - although he seemed desperate to think he was. In another documentary they highlighted bits from the dating agency video he made where he used words that he clearly didn't understand and got wrong (for example saying sedimentary instead of sedentary). All part of major the chip on his shoulder he appears to have had.
@@th8257 Agreed. Cannan was exactly the sort of narcissist that he claimed to despise in the dating video
lol "piss off " Cannan walks off calmly thinking "fuckin cunt " disappointment rules ,good on her.
I was on my Duke of Edinburgh award exercise and when we were dropped off at a location to make our way to camp, we were stopped in the minibus and told to take a different route as a discovery had been made.
Pretty sure it may have been Shirley. It was near where she was found.
What police should have put out was a request for information on anyone seen in a yellow mini driving towards Dead Woman's Ditch on the night she disappeared.
My opinion is that she was taken straight there. Cannan needed her mini to get home and with no interior lights - an impossible task of wiping his fingerprints.
If he was in Suzies car, he would have left prints. Did police find any prints on the steering wheel? If so, it clearly was not wiped and Cannans would be there if he was the one who drove it and altered the seat.
Dead Womasn Ditch it was called
@@valuetraveler2026 Yes, I know.
It may have been Sandra Court that was found but it was certainly a body.
She rang in work the next day and her print was found in his flat on a note that never left his flat.
I think the poor girl was stuffed in the monks chest
"Cannan's Marsh" attempted abduction.
HE IS GUILTY AS CHARGED THE E FIT LOOKS LIKE CANNEN HE HAS BEEN PLAYING A CAT AND MOUSE WITH THE COPS FOR YEARS
Amazing work by the coppers!
Ted Bundy's your man...
The woman not coming forward is absolutely shocking. However, nothing was explained about if there was any physical evidence at that spot; any footprints or blood or hair of another victim? Very strange not to comb that area. All the police did was shout at someone in a car to see if they could be heard 🤷🏼♂️
I though that. Why didn't they dig up that area. N that woman hearing that n not reporting it is shocking!!
The police had major reservations about that woman. They felt she may well have been making it all up for attention - she only came forward when the details were in the public domain.
@@traceyclarke5475 The police had major reservations about that woman. They felt she may well have been making it all up for attention - she only came forward when the details were in the public domain.
I remember when she was abducted from car park in bristol ,it was a massive investigation. That john cannon was suspected of other murders too.
I appreciate the British policeman’s patience and that they are using their skills at detection to pick apart his story but eventually you wish they’d just tell him to quit his lying or they’ll clobber him with their billy clubs.
Meow Meow Uprising .Ha Ha Ha. Billy clubs. Not heard that before 👍👍👍
British policeman? Well it wasn't going to be an American one, was it?
John Cannan has a very similar profile to Ted Bundy.
8 year prison sentence for rape and robbery ,if that was today he would get a fine and a police caution .
Lol i doubt it they have clamped down a lot on rape and robbery since then.
For rape and robbery today you'd probably get more like 15 years today.
That's the kind of ridiculous nonsense that stupid old people say who are clueless about the modern world. Violent crime like that is actually lower now than that it was then.
@@tanyard 6years out after 3
@@guy4469 Maybe in the 1980's but not today. Going out with a knife or gun and raping someone would get you at least 15 years. Robbery with a weapon would also be at least 5 years. With a previous recrod you could be looking at a life sentence even. I think under UK law today anyone who is convicted of a second serious violent or sexual crime has to be sentenced to life. Also a few years ago they changed the parole process so that you have to serve at least two thirds of a sentence and not half anymore before applying for parole.
Always lock the car doors, that poor girl 's car door was faulty.
Banks jammed driver's side door should have saved her....because he couldn't open it and order into the passenger seat...as was his MO.
Maybe he offered to try to un jam it when he saw her setting in the passenger side?
Great upload, you got any other crimewatch episodes?
I have others which I will upload
Zenshin Dojo
Do you have crimewatch file armed and dangerous ??
The woman who saw him beating and dragging the lady, and hearing the lady plead for her life and simply drove away! She should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting a criminal. She's got some blame in this murder by simply not caring enough to call the police. I hope karma paid her back for her selfish inaction.
Not exactly guilt ridden either :/ vital sighting too
What's not reported here is the spectacular errors the police made with the Suzy Lamplugh case. They failed to properly investigate Cannan at the time, failed to investigate his alibi, failed to properly speak to his exes (one of whom turned out to be an important witness to incriminating things he'd said). Det Supt Hackett ordered his officers to try and eliminate Cannan from Suzy's case and believed that stories in the press linking Cannan to Suzy's murder had been planted by Suzy's family. Hackett had fallen out with Suzy's mother.
you wont catch that guy in the helmet. he had slippons on and white socks there well fast .
😂
How would those 2 chasers know it was his knife ? They only saw how run away
Look at the car register on the car it’s Suzy name it was him who killed her no if or buts it’s him !!!!
It was Ivor Fenchurch
an appeal court judge and a retrial by jury are two different things so yes adverse publicity could affect a fair retrial, bbc taking twaddle again
Where do you find these crimewatch file programmes mate
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
John canan spews absolute bollocks for hours during interview
Police: thanks for that John.
Suzy white Ford Fiesta (registration: B396 GAN was a company car i saw it back in 2002 in the buckinghamshire area.
is that a true story. is suzy car not evidence.
@@leedummett4412 It was around 2002, it was a white fiesta with the same reg maybe cloned plates
No you didn't stop lying.
@@ThenorthsaceSuzy white Ford Fiesta was a company car and was Untaxted from the 1 AUGUST 1990, around the 2002 remember watching suzy lamplugh documentary. I don't know if it was her car. But it was showing the registration B396 GAN
@@michaellowery1559 Possibly.
They do sell motors on after used in crimes.
It was pretty much a new car.
Alan Partridge gone wrong
AAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
35.50 How on earth can you witness something like that and not report it to the police?
The police actually thought the woman may have been making it all up. She only came forward once the details were in the public domain, and the police felt she may have been a fantasist who was attention seeking.
@John Cooper because it did not actually happen.
He got that helmet back on quickly. 10:21
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
Good eye...There's another one in the Larry Bird (sp?) murder reconstruction.....The man found strangled with a scarf at the back of The Old Pump House.
2.22 Lovely birdsong. Robin?
Yes 😀
As with so many sex offenders and murderers, it's about control and power more than anything. Cannan clearly had issues with needing to feel power and prestige, so constructed this bizarre persona whereby he could pretend he was a successful, sophisticated and intelligent businessman. His murdering and rape allowed him to feel power and control over his victims. So much of it is traced back to childhood - either being made to feel worthless, or being given a deep sense of self entitlement. Apparently his father was very abusive and aggressive and his mother was smothering. A similar pattern with a lot of other offenders, in one way or another.
Interesting how he chose Leamington Spa.. How did he even end up there?
He's a sexual predator, and obviously the parole board was softened by his lies to let him out so early for such a horrific rape. Women have little value don't they?
I'm not sure society as a whole understood sex offenders and how they operate. You hear of so many cases back then of children being raped and the offender just getting a fine. Shocking to think that there was no such thing as the sex offenders register until the Blair government in the late 90s.
MORIARTY.....no bad guy ever called dat
Absolutely Tragic Case
35:58 Just in case the penny hasn't dropped yet: she's absolutely stark raving mad. Why didn't she alert the Police on the day? Easy: because it never happened.
It's so sad that murder enquiries seem to bring out a lot of delusional attention seekers. It makes the police's job so much harder. I remember seeing another documentary about some woman who was absolutely obsessed that Peter Sutcliffe had come into the café she worked in with an accomplice who she thought was the man who sent in the fake tapes from Sunderland. She was absolutely obsessive and had got into a very long correspondence with Peter Sutcliffe over many years, saying she knew what had happened. It had really taken over her family life too.
Or because she'd been drink driving?
3:08 me when someone starts chatting nonsense in the group chat
Can I borrow your hoover? is a great euphemism
To clean his car out *before* dumping a body?
That is how the story goes.
The media are not always honest with the facts though. It does not help.
she handed him an upright and he wanted to clean his car out!
Am sure I’ve watched a doc with this guy for the estate agent susie lamplugh a think me kipper he was a suspect this dude and a bloody good one by the look of it
Interesting
Still not been charged with the murder of Suzie Lamplaugh yet the bastard
poor shirley held captive in his flat. when her body was found she was wearing the dress that she had bought from top shop, which means cannan forced shirley to put on her new dress during her captivity. was this some kind of sex game.
Or maybe she put it on after she bought it lmao
@@Thenorthsace i doubt that. she was on her way home. the dress was probably for another night out with husband richard.
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
She was found naked according to news reports.
Buttons at the scene were believed to have come from the dress.
We don't actually know what she bought as the receipt was never found and items were not (and still not) listed on credit card purchases via bank statements.
Is he out this year?
Nope, he's not getting out. And he's terminally ill.
www.itv.com/news/london/2022-06-15/family-begs-seriously-ill-prime-suspect-in-suzy-lamplugh-case-to-speak
On 9 October 2023 his request for early release was denied by a Parole Board, so he is still behind bars. His change of being released is nil, because he was jailed before from 1981 to 1986 for other sex offences......
@@henkdegroot5872also rumours that he's quite seriously ill
40:20 - the copper pulls an absolute blinder.
reconstruction looks nothing like him
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
@@ramatgan1 Exactly. He certainly couldn't tell police where he bought it and asked police where the auction was.
As admitted by the investigating officer Bryan Saunders.
There is apparently DNA linking Cannan to Suzy Lamplugh and Cannan.
A Ford Sierra.
If Shirley Banks was able to call the cab co., why didn't she call the police. It does suggest that she was at the flat of her own accord.
Jeanette Cardinal I'm not too familiar with the facts.
I do believe Police have been very reluctant to solve some of these connecting crimes.
The evidence is everywhere.
No appeals for fresh information on this crime and others.
Jeanette Cardinal Police have made a fatal mistake in keeping a lot from those at the top.
They aren't having finances and pensions cut for no reason.
It will get worse. They are proving they are not fit for purpose in so many ways.
@ 29.43. that detective is brilliant. for f**ck sake John get on with it. You know I don't believe you.
Jeanette Cardinal The Police were scared. There are other connections around Gangland and I believe police officers didn't want these types knocking on their doors or setting fire to their homes .
Like for forcing cannan to take sodium pentathol & be questioned by a crack military interrogation expert
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
Because that'd stand up in court wouldn't it? We don't live in an episode of the A Team.
@@ramatgan1stop spamming with this! You don't have to repeat it on every comment!
@@th8257 I do , If you can find me & if you can afford me .besides the military do it all the time
PS sorry it took me 3 years to reply :D
Supposedly him that done susie lamplaugh
@@sdmsdm7926 he will
He killed Suzy and threw her in a canal in a suitcase 🧳 and a man seen him at 6 o’clock in the morning and they still haven’t send people to look at the water 💧 we’re he threw it . They are a disgrace to human life because if it was there daughter or a family member they would look 👀!!!!!!
They have actually checked that area. Found nothing.
@@th8257 they haven’t I no her brother and he said they haven’t looked
they saw a man run into the park next to the river when jill dando was shot and they have never found the gun and never stuck a magnet in the river.
Obvious he loves all the attention
Ha ha very dirty canan
Lies, deception and fakery.
But what was the sentence????community service?????
Life imprisonment
He's not getting out. He's terminally ill now.
you cant say its not worth the paper its written on ,now days whats a cheque .ill send it over my phone .and in sweeden you can have a chip in your thumb for £5000, and pay for things using your thumb .cool
gUiLtY of 2
*3:08** she sounds like my crazy ex girlfriends*
He was hot
Sherly banks should have reported to police after te man had a gun pointed at her in the car park what a mistake
That was another victim , Julia , not Shirley Banks . Good for her though she fought back.
cash a what a jack or something whats that ,
guy cash a cheque (a type of payment, hardly ever used now)
Cash a cheque.
49:31 what a weird statement
why?
how have you come to that conclusion ? you either have no kids or you are drunk ?
Why? They're clearly still somewhere in shock and denial.
@@caffrey1967 Yes kids, kill the bastard would be my take.
Quite boring this one, cannon/kipper is psychopath
That mini new reg plates is SLP 386S = Suzi Lampugh.
Can't be just a coniencdence.
@@ramatgan1 's comment is what's boring! Sick of reading it in the replies!
I Watched a lot of documentaries and reports about Suzy Case and in my humble opinion I don't believe she's dead instead chose to leaves The past and her life with some one she's deeply in loved with The possibility of leaving England...
Missing 411 case , Police & TV ALWAYS have a sinister side to a story they cannot solve
recomend you go watch the documentary Missing 411 David Paulidies - he also has a YT channel Can am missing project . We NEED ONE IN THE UK !
Shirley Banks spoke to her boss on the phone the morning after she failed to go home, someone phoned for a taxi for a pickup from Cannan's flat, as he sent the driver away it seems it may have been Shirley Banks who rang. Two things there that make me wonder if she willingly went back to his place the night before. It also seems strange her husband although expecting her home that night and with pre-arranged plans with her, did not call the police until the next day and apparently didn't contact anyone else either, friends, family, only her boss but that must have been after 9am. Was he used to her staying out overnight and no phone call to inform him, that is odd to me. My theory is she went back to Cannan's flat for a bit of how's your father, next day she rings up work hungover and makes her excuses, phones a taxi and gives Cannan the brush off. He being possessive and insecure isn't happy and knocks her out after an argument and a bit of pushing and shoving. He then murders her, she may have threatened him with the police after she came to or he wasn't taking any chances, he might have done it in a rage after she indicated their night together was a one-off. The location of the murder, who knows.
If she made the call from Cannans flat it would show on his phone logs? Or police will know it was made.
The fact they never used it as evidence suggests it was never made from his flat.
Because she was not there?
If police had a direct peice of proof, they wouldn't have spent ages trying to get him charged.
I'm still dubious about the thumbprint police claim they found on a document.
A tax disc maybe but to say it was found on a letter in his property if she was never in it is worrisome in terms of reliable evidence.
Cannan had used a gun on Julia Holman and had used knives. He was probably standing next to her threatening to kill her if she said anything untoward. The fact that someone called a taxi probably meant that she had un-gagged herself and managed to call a taxi but in that case why didn’t she scream the place down ? Cannan had neighbours. Moreover, we know Cannan had handcuffs and rope so she was more likely tied up.
@@user-br3bw7wr2l If a call was made to Shirley's workplace from Cannan's flat there would be evidence of that. It would have led police straight to him.
We don't know for sure what Cannan had. I have seen documentaries which show a revolver type gun as his weapon yet I also seen a Crimewatch real CCTV video where somebody resembling Cannan was holding up a premise with a short type pistol handgun.
Christopher Berry-Dee alleges Cannan asked a Mr Big (Bristol connections) to get him a gun.
I learned of Karl (AKA Mr big in the early 1990s) he was connected to massage parlours too. (Mr big).
Odd how nobody knows his surname .
The media cannot be trusted. Look at the shyness over Wayne Lomas murder by Bristol post. Why aren't THE Guardian going mad?
i think she had gone for a drink with work mates and then went shoing. her husband thought she must have got squiffy and stayed at a friend's house overnight.
RP pronunciation is so annoying, BBC robots