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As a armed professional that carries both on the job and in my personal life. The Smith & Wesson Shield is the epitome of what others are trying to achieve. Thus far I think the Sig 365 is about as close as anyone has come to the shield. My agency has the shield on the approved list and that's what I carry. The Sig 365 has been tested by my agency and is not currently on the approved list. Not to be long-winded but I agree with your assessment of these two platforms. I to give the nod to the Smith & Wesson Shield because I trust my life with it and the life of my clients with it.
Sig hit it out of the park with the P365 features and design. Maximum capacity and minimal size. The trigger breaks at a nice point, not too far back like many other pistols. The only issue a lot of people seem to have is that it may be too small for a lot of people to hold comfortably, which is why those people usually go with the 12 round mag. My hand fits perfectly with the 10 round mag with the extended pinky grip so I'm in love with it. The $250 price tag on the 1.0 shield definitely has me interested in getting one as a backup/beater gun though. I'm sure you can't go wrong with the P365 or the Shield, just pick what fits best for you.
Thank for the review. I went to a gun show and held...The Sig 365, Glock 26, 43, PPQ and M&P Shield 2.0. I must say the shield felt extremely good in my hand. I ended up getting the Shield with the Red CTL built in and must say after some range time Im extremely happy with my choice. The 365 is great in hand but not as good to me in my hand compared to the Shield. Great video
Thank you very much! That's a great assortment of guns you got to handle. I agree that the Shield feels good in the hand and it's a shooter too! Cheers!
Hmm you give the M&P the price point, but then change the sights and trigger. Killing that price advantage. The P365 smaller/lighter and higher capacity. My vote is the P365 . Great video thanks
Thank you very much Dave! Yes, the Shield does have the aftermarket stuff on it. Those were from previous vids but the stock Shield is still awesome. Either way, both guns are great. Chheers!
@@chtomlin *dig duck* has a point which agrees with physics. The SIG P365 slide & handle design may make it a little easier to shoot compared with other *sub-compacts.* But a heavier &/or larger gun is easier to "extremely" easier shoot due to the laws of physics. Note: Unless there is SIG magic involved *Chuck T.* ; )
I used to to have Sigs and carried one everyday for almost nine years. I switched to Smith & Wesson and love the Smith & Wesson Shield. I agree with your pick.
When I first saw this video I agreed wholeheartedly in my appreciation for the Shield. I've had a P365 for about a year. Gradually I've come to the realization that the 365 and my future XL will probably replace every other gun I own in 9mm. They are just that good. I sold a Shield 9 recently still have another one but maybe not forever. The 365 is very good and you can't deny the capacity advantage it has. Love you videos they make the viewer think about what was covered more than others.
Only a matter of time before they make some type of a Shield 3.0 that has a staggered double stack magazine (like the Hellcat/365) and is the same size
They basically did come out with a double stack Shield. The M&P 2.0 Subcompact. It's thicker and slightly longer, but you get twelve rounds for carry and the 17 round full size mags will fit in it for the range. (Also comes with a slip on grip extender for the 15 and 17 round mags) I love mine. They can be hard to find right now, but worth every penny if you can.
Your choice is understandable from a training perspective. I've run 300 rounds through my P365 and I plan on taking a few classes with it to get used to the differences between it and the thicker double stack subcompacts that I am used to. It is fairly snappy but very accurate. After 1,000 plus rounds and a couple of classes, I should feel very confident with it. I hope so because I've already mentally committed.
Love the Shield! Added a Hogue slip on grip, Apex trigger, extended mag release, HYVE mag extension, custom back plate, Olight PL Mini 2 light and night sights. Fun gun to personalize and after 500+ rounds, not 1 misfire after modifications. Love Sig too, both great guns, but can't personalize the Sig like I did with the Shield.
I did the hogue grip, and mag extension for my shield I've carried it for 5 years, and I usually fire a 100 rounds a month, and haven't had any issues. This gun is a rugged little champ.
yeah sig has that proprietary rail i dont like so much. i want to get a custom grip module for my p365xl . i dont need the mag extensions 12 is enough for me and its crazy concealable. also thinking about the sig romeozero rds.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I had winnowed it down to these two for my next purchase. Between you and the Honest Outlaw, I have decided: if I can run across a deal for the M&P Shield 2.0 around 350 or 400 I will choose it and just replace the sights and buy extra mags. But since I have never had a small carry gun, I will have to adjust to whatever I choose anyway. The size adjustment for the P365 will be the only knock against it, and I will have to get used to anything regardless. Therefore, the best choice for me out of the box is the Sig. I have resisted the idea of buying the Sig, partly because I already have the P320 in 9mm and 5" barrel. I don't want to be a fan-boy of any name brand. I'm really just looking for the best within my price range. A CZ Shadow 2 is not in my range and it's too big. I have big, and I can't use them for concealed carry. I think even a 4" barrel will be uncomfortable. I haven't seen CZ competing on the sub compact field, and they would probably be too expensive again anyway. Nope. The P365 has won me, short of a lucky find with the Shield 2.0.
Thanks for making the Video. Great elaboration, and breaking it down. MAC (Military Arms Channel) opened my eyes on the Sig P365. With all the problems Sig is having with it right now, there is no way in hell I"m spending $600, and then, have to send it in for repairs after 800 rounds. The Primer Drag & Broken Firing Pins shit needs to be addressed by Sig BEFORE they send another one out the door. I'll wait until next year on the P365 so they can solve the problems. For now though, I'll run and get the S&W M&P Shield 2.0 for $349.99 {maybe even cheaper), and the extension for 10+1 carry. Hell, who knows. I may not even be interested in the P365 when they do get their shit together.
After you replace the sights and trigger on the shield, it's actually more expensive and you have to do both for it to be in the ballpark. P365 is better quality, smaller, and just a better design. I carry a P365 and I love it. Good job Sig.
sales #s are a good metric, and give the edge to the Shield, per free market objectivity. ill run MP shield over everything else. way more reliable and durable
@@tomsmith2215 I am a Smith wood and steel guy, but never tried their autoloaders. Purchased a .380 Shield EZ for a new female shooter as a gift. I had a hard time letting it go to the intended recipient. I love my P226 but I am a fan of M&P Shield 9mm, plus it fits my lengthy hands better than Sig compacts. Shield is just as ergonomic as a Walther CCP M2 which fits like a glove with Talon grip tape.
I have the 365XL on reserve, but am strongly considering switching to the M&P. It's about $150 cheaper and I don't think the difference is that great. Its an EDC not a range toy.
Before last year, I'd never felt compelled to own a weapon until a stranger decided to come into my home unannounced while I was there. Thankfully nothing bad happened after the confrontation. But afterward, I sat down to TH-cam and started researching hand guns. I decided on one, went and purchased it, asked a friend of mine who had some property so he could teach me how to shoot. Went to the property with 3 other people and took turns shooting a 3" metal flapper from 50'. Nobody there ever fired/owned the gun I bought. Not knowing how proficient they were, after seeing them shoot. I thought, these guys' guns are out of whack. It seemed they couldn't shoot straight. It was my turn. I shot about 50 rounds. To everyone's amazement, I hit the bullseye every time. I'd never fired a handgun before. They didn't believe me. Then they shot my gun with about the same results. I shot theirs, they were all much heavier, bigger grip, etc. I had a more difficult time and couldn't hit the target as well. I am 5'7" and they were about the same. Our hands were all about the same. All I know is, the gun fit my hand well. It was comfortable, it did what I wanted. It shot straight and I could hit what I aimed at. Since then I've put about a 1000 rounds through it. Never a misfire or a jamb. I clean it every 200 rounds or so. I buy whatever FMJ copper that's on sale and never steel at the recommendation of the sales guy where I bought it. The gun, S&W Shield 9mm... not the 2.0. It still shoots like it was brand new and just as well with the same results and couldn't be happier with it. Then again, what do I know?
Very good comparison. My thoughts after this: 1. If you could only have one, the P365 is thinner, smaller, which means the most comfortable and smallest practical and still be 9MM, which opens up your wardrobe. 2. If you could only have one, which is usually the case, the P365 is stainless, which means no rust, even after the finish gets scratched and being handled without wiping down the slide with oil. 3. If you could only have one, the P365 magazine can hold 10 rounds with no size or weight sacrifice, and magazine swaps increase your risk. 4. If you could only have one, the P365's barrel is center line is closer to hand thereby reducing muzzle jump. 5. If you could only have one, the P365 comes with sights that work at night, and thus could also be used for home defense as-is. 6. If you could only have one, the extra $150 for the P365 doesn't matter, and unless you are a gunsmith, if you replace the sights on the Shield, it already costs as much as a P365, without all of the other benefits. 7. From looking at the video it appears the P365 has more clearance for stuff to get into it from the top of the gun than the Shield 2.0. 8. If you conceal and carry other handguns, and are used to having your thumb in the area occupied by the slide on the P365, then you want the Shield 2.0. *Both guns can be ordered with safety features that are compliant for their state. Specs for Shield 2.0: - 20.21 oz. - Length 6.1", height 4.4", width 1.03" - Barrel length 3.1" - Magazine capacity 7 Specs for P365 - 17.8 oz. (However, when loaded with the 3 additional rounds...) - Length 5.8", height 4.3", width 1.00" - Barrel length 3.1" - Magazine capacity 10
This topic could go on for years. The most important thing is that which everyone u choose it has to serve its purpose. That is comfort grip, trigger, sights, rounds etc. Make sure its comfortable and u can shoot actuate, thats the point. It DON'T matter which brand u carry.
The p365 is the best pocket gun but the shield fits the hands a lot better. So I use my p365 as a pocket gun and my shield as a hip gun. I say buy both.
I’m the same. S&W through and through for my whole life. M&P 9 gen 1 is my favorite firearm I own. My primary carry is a 636 J Frame. I’ve been putting off a small semi auto 9 for carry for years. I went back and forth between the M&P shield, Kimber Micro 9, Hellcat, and Sig P365. I held the hellcat and ruled it out instantly as I didn’t like it’s ergonomics. A friend has the Kimber Micro 9 and I loved how it felt, fit, looked, and carried. The only knock was it has 7+1. It came down to the shield and P365. I went P365 as it felt just as good in my hand as the shield but has more ammo capacity, and is a tad more versatile due to its slightly smaller size. I carry the 12 round mag when I carry it OWB and I carry the 10 round flush plat mag IWB or pocket carry. The shield is too big for me to pocket carry, slightly too large for me to feel comfortable IWB carry.
I just bought my first ccw gun a couple weeks ago and I was looking at these 2 plus a couple others . I ended up with the sig 365 tacpac , came with a case , holster and 3 10+1 mags, I also bought 3 15rd mags when I picked up the gun. The sig was more comfortable to me then the others. Found it to be accurate at 30ft and out of the box work flawlessly. Now other family members want one but can’t find one . It was nice when pick up the gun from the store they keep ammo just for gun purchasers so you will have ammunition when you buy your gun .
I purchased that same setup back in December! I tested the trigger and it breaks at 4.6 pounds which is amazing for an OEM trigger. It's now my pocket gun and im glad I purchased the one with the external safety. I love the gun but I still prefer my upgraded shield as a hip gun. I have big hands so I can't shoot the p365 with speed like I can with the shield. It's still a great gun and I think it's the best one for a female. If I had a wife or daughter the p365 is the one I would buy for them. It's basically all you need for Concealed Carry but it's not my top choice because of my hand size. Even with the hogue grip it doesn't feel as good as the shield in my hands. Im red/green color blind so the sights on the p365 doesn't work very well for me. Everyone has different hand sizes and eye's so there really is no perfect gun. Personally I think everyone should own both pistols because they're both awesome. Now I have the perfect pocket gun and the perfect hip gun for Concealed Carry 😁👍. It's good to have more than one small Carry pistol because it's what you're going to carry the most.
Excellent review. So many great choices out there now, all but a few are excellent guns. So many people leave comments how they know the perfect handgun for self defensive carrying. They really only know what they like for themselves because not every gun is the best choice for everyone. I would say that reliability is the most important thing, next, hand size is the biggest factor for determining witch gun to get, what fits a persons hand best. Round count is another factor but carry an extra magazine, something everyone should do incase of mag failures, and the round count becomes less important although still real important in a gun fight. Make sure your choice is small and light enough so you will always have it on you, next, get one that you can hit stuff at close range without aiming, you just point it and shoot, and hit your close target because that is a real gunfight, first hit wins, second place, you're dead. Tactics, not fast draw will get you shooting first, never quick draw into a gunfight, always see what is about to happen and be holding your gun when it does, awareness and tactics not quickness gets your shots on target first, first = winning. You won't have the time or ability to aim with those new night sights, it's a close up, point and shoot game your going to be in, so get a gun you can point and hit, then practice that. If you shoot or dry fire at least twice a week, you can switch gun choices otherwise, stick to just one gun choice. I shoot a lot and go 50/50 between Glock 26 and Glock 43 depends on what I'm waring or the mood I'm in. I am like the G26 best with the +2 base plate, extra 2 rounds is nice but mostly I like that base plate because it's way easier to draw. Good luck with your tactics whatever you do.
That’s the video I was looking for!! I have owned the Shield for about 5 years and I love it. I just ordered he 365 and I can’t wait to start shooting it.
Curry In A Hurry Automotive Mobile Mechanic in my opinion the 365 shoots better and feels a little bit better on my hand. I have small hands, it has less recoil
From Burke in WA.4/20/18. EXCELLENT review. Both guns are top. I pocket carry a shield9 w.green Viridian laser. (Ret.l.e.o.42 yrs.) The SHIELD is available w.external safety if U want one; 365 does NOT. My SHIELD9 carries 10+1 (mag-guts+2). For me, the SHIELD wins. Not 1 failure or issue. It shoots wonderfully and comfortably. It eats ALL ammo 365 can't be found in Seattle area @ this time.
I own them both and love them both. Guns are a funny thing, like many of your followers have mentioned. There is no one size fits all with a firearm. I will never get rid of my shield 9mm, but I'm hoping my 365 will become my edc. I only have 150 rounds through my 365, as I just bought it a week ago. Nov 2018 born on date. There were no failures of any kind for first 150. I hope they really did work out the bugs, I am routing for the 365 to be a reliable gun.
Just came from the range with my new p365. 150 flawless FMJ rounds and 20 flawless rounds of HST. I still prefer the ergos and shootability of my. 45 shield with 185gr rounds but the p365 is a real game changer. Won't really understand the size until u hold it... It's small. Can't deny the size/capacity ratio. Vedder light tuck on thee way.
Congrats on the new score Paul! That’s awesome brother. Glad it running for you! I am hearing more and more reports of the 365s running well so I think the issues early adopters were having has been worked out. I agree about the size vs capacity thing too. Truly may be a game changer. Thank you and cheers!
Lani Wade 😂 I actually like federal too I have hst I think 115 grain in the 19, you like heavier grains and do you like the hydra shock better then the hst?
After watching you shoot both, I noticed that the shield had a better recoil than the 365. The 365 seemed to recoil back and wavered side to side a bit. But the shield was straight back mostly. So you seemed to shoot it more confidently with a repeatedly quicker next shot. I think this is to do with the shorter grip mostly. But the shorter barrel does make the issue worse. I saw the xl 365 does better with the longer barrel. But the short grip is both its best and worse feature in my opinion. The grip on the 365 looks like it would be great for me with my small hands. But I think I'd have the same result and would find the shield to be better to shoot. Thank you for the video. As always your comparison was very well done and I really appreciate hearing your opinion. 😎👍
It was between the Shield 2.0 and the P365 for me. I spent about an hour at the range with each and it really was a toss up - both shot phenomenally. Ultimately I liked the sights and the grip on the P365 enough to buy it, even though I've been a S&W man my whole life. Thank you for your review!
This was literally me 2 months ago as I was buying my first pistol but I grew up like smith and wesson i have their knives and the s&w m&p 15 but the sig was just too good
I have both old versions of each and I was struggling with what I would carry even after range sessions, But your video lead me to the road to nowhere "Ringo Star" no , I will carry the P365, but not ashamed to carry the S&W when need be. Thanks for your eval.
I too use the Shield to back up my 2.0 Compact. At work I carry the M&P40 so I carry a Shield 40 on my vest. Great little guns. I’m sure the SIGs are great, but I’m not going to invest in new holsters, mags and sights at this point.
Thanks for an excellent review. I own a 9mm 2.0 Shield -- love it. As they say, the grass is always greener, so I would like to try a 365, but my skepticism is in regards to mass/weight and recoil. Before buying the Shield, I carried an LCP-II 380 ACP, and the small size and recoil just killed my trigger hand. The Shield solved that problem, and I don't want to regress. Shooting the 365 should tell the tale for me.
First and Foremost, I am older than you so you must do as I say! Please continue Safety checking at the beginning of your video's. It's not for me or any other knowledgeable firearms owner, but for those younger and perhaps new to the shooting world it's good training! I can suck it up. I always safety check and lock the slide or open the cylinder before handing my firearm to another, ALWAY'S it's the proper thing to do! Tough choice I can see why the Shield would be your choice! I'm on the opposite side, smaller hands and body frame so the P 365 wins for me. And yes for me more is better! I kept thinking the Shield ran out of ammo before you really got in to it at the range shoot. Really Good and Honest Review, Thank You for your time and effort here.
I agree about the safety checking and will continue to do it. I totally understand where you are coming from with the small hands and the 365 may make sense for you. Thank you very much for watching and cheers!
Can’t go wrong with the Smith & Wesson Shield. You’re getting an extremely reliable firearm that’s approved by most LE agencies PLUS the occasional factory rebates! My daily is a gen 1 M&P shield 9 however I recently picked up a 2.0 plus for $324.99 after rebate! A far cry from a base Sig 365 @ $499.
For people complaining about you checking to make sure it’s not loaded should not have guns. That’s gun safety 101. I check my guns always even though I know for a fact I put it in the safe unloaded
Good review, just sold a Shield to get the P365. Right now, the Shield is a proven entity and there have been some teething problems with the SIG (they will fix them) so I agree with your assessment. However, I couldn't resist the new SIG...
Love my p365 got it a couple months ago 2021. No issues with it at all. Got a couple 12 round mags, pocket holster, nobody knows I'm carrying it. Best pistol so far in my opinion. They fix all these issues 3 years ago.
I understand what you're saying but to tell you the truth I own the shield and and it's been perfect but still my favorite gun is my H&K p2000sk H&K rocks
Just purchased a P365 with ambi safety for 439.00 . Added talon grips to cover un-stippled portion of the upper grip. The safety is well designed and easy to use. I pocket carry this gun without any issues. 12 rd. Mag makes gripping easy. Purchased a 15 rd. Mag but it is ugly, awkward and flat but having a 16 rd. Backup mag is priceless!
Good points, cheap, don't care if you trash it, and reliable. Nothing to love about it and get attached to. Just buy another one once its worn out or ugly from abuse.
Thanks for the comparison and the comments. You've helped me make up my mind on the purchase. Provided I can find one I'm going w/the sig. really enjoyed it
Great video! Loved the comparison between those two awesome carry guns. I have owned 2 of the original Smith & Wesson Shields (1.0 model) and was pretty impressed with the weapon. However, in your video you make note that you've added a trigger package from Apex, and also changed out the sights. If this had been a straight up stock comparison, hands down the P365 wins. I have my P365 as my EDC, and haven't ever had any malfunctions. I did replace my Springfield XD-S 9mm 4" with the P365. Love the gun, doubt I'll ever change the P365 out for anything else. For me, it's the perfect carry gun.
Thank you very much! Very true that the Shield has some enhancements and out of the box, the 365 offers quite a bit. I still opt for the Shield, but just barely. I agree about the experience and haven’t had function issues with my 365 either. I think that hype is dying down (which is a good thing). Cheers Nate!
Love my Sig P365! I bought the Gen ll. 2k rounds not one problem. I'm 6"3 220 but I have a 33 inch waist. So printing is a big problem. I like wearing figure fitting clothes. So the Sig P365 fit's my every day wear. I trust my EDC P365. The P365 replaced my XD 40. I have strong hands the P365 is one of the best weapons I have shot. The trigger and sights are amazing for a out of the box weapon. Go rent one at your local gun shop/range. You won't be disappointed. Got my Sig p365 for $500.
That 365 is tiny nice sights. I saw your comparison with 43. I thank I'd go with the 365. Just for situations when I can't carry my G19. Good video well done.
Sig cost now $499. 10+1 can be had in 12+1. Smaller in dimension. X-ray sight. Front functional serrations. Teething problems fixed for 2019 models. "Full" rail. Nice vid btw.
Love the review, I went with the Sig. I’ve got small hands, so it couldn’t be any better in my book. Quit apologizing to the trolls and fan boys who won’t listen to logic. Ignore them and they go away.
I have an original run Shield in 9 and after nearly 2,000 rounds it has been absolutely flawless. I have been chasing the “perfect” CCW gun for years and no matter what I buy, I keep coming back to the Shield for size, reliability, accuracy and a proven platform. The 365 is overly concerning with the early run issues. I did upgrade the sights to TruGlo FTOs and I added some grip tape just to give it a little extra girth in my hand. That corrected my pulling-to-the-left groupings. I do with it had higher capacity but the trade off is right on par and realistically, I likely won’t need more than 9 to take care of business. If I do, I grab the backup mag I always carry.
I shoot my original Shield better than the Sig, have shoot over 3300 rounds no issues, and best of all I got it for $224 out the door. No reason to change.
Just for argument sake, by the time an apex trigger & after market sights are installed, the Shield costs as much or more as the 365. Just an observation. Our shields are excellent carry guns. We have no complaints. But this Sig is impressive and has promise.
You are 100% correct! Thankfully the Smith doesn't absolutely have to have the changes, but they are fun. I do agree that the Sig has promise and have really enjoyed testing it. Thank you and cheers!
The stock Shield is just fine. There are people who will spend money on any accessory or any upgrade because they think it will make them shoot better. The joke's on them.
Sold the 365. The grip is just too small. It’s like holding the box toothpaste comes in under a gun. It made me shoot my other handguns poorly because of the adjustment made for gripping it. M&P for sure, and it shoots softer for that second or third follow up round.
@@stiftarcory4364 -- You are over-thinking Robert's comment. The small grip doesn't allow you to get a good purchase with both hands on the gun like you could with a larger grip. The 365 is snappier to shoot because of that. These days there's the Shield Plus...
I've got the shield in 45 and just recently pick up the Sig for the added capacity. I'm torn as I really like the shield. Its bitter and heavier, but it just fits my hands perfectly and I shoot it much better. Maybe I'll shoot the Sig better once I can get some affordable and available ammo thru it!
I have both, the Shield (1.0) and a P365 and have to agree with you. If I had to pick one it would be the Shield. I have been shooting the Sig trying to get used to it but shoot the Shield much better. SOooo, until I get comfortable with the Sig my Shield is my go to carry gun.I did have a Apex trigger installed, not the full kit but it is AWESOME. That said, the trigger on the Sig ia almost as good out of the box.
The Sig was hard to find when it came out because of demand and shortage of guns, today you can get the improved P365. improved because they fixed anything that was wrong with the initial release version. The Sig has a great trigger, and fantastic magazine design. The Sig was the clear winner, price isn't everything.
I have them both! I like them both. Having said that, I agree with you 100% I had two of the Shields when the Sig came out and was on the cover of every Handgun Magazine. I had to have one! I have told my shooting buddies that if I could only have one it would be the Shield and today I saw your well written review. Nice job.
Great review & info. I own both and completely agree. I picked up the 365 about a year ago and it's very nice, but I too had to make adjustments to my normal shooting for it because of it's small size. If you're hands are smaller, then the 365 is probably a wonderful firearm. But for me it was quite challenging to shoot accurately as I'm used to with my other firearms.
I bought a Shield 4 years ago and it was my EDC for awhile, and I liked it just fine. Then a couple years ago I bought the P365, and the Shield pretty much sat in the safe. I know that some people have had issues with the P365, but I've put several hundred rounds through mine and haven't had a hiccup. Not saying there's anything wrong with the Shield...they're two different guns with different pros and cons, but I just like the P365 better. I enjoy shooting it more, carries more rounds and yet still more compact...I use the 12 round mags and have no issues carrying it concealed. I still have the Shield, however it's relegated to the bedside table or my wife's purse.
I have both and love both. Granted I polished the barrel on the shield and did a full apex trigger job on it as well due to mine being the 1st gen shield. Both really are decent carry guns but the p365 definitely has the edge on concealment.
@@KSGunGuy01 Thank you buddy, I really meant it. I see lots of these reviews and yours are the best and I don't have to worry about my little kids hear your words unlike other reviews when they use so much profanities and bad words. take care man!
I'm 6'2" with giant hands and for some reason I shoot my 365 a hair better than I do my glock 19. Probably a combination of great sights and an excellent striker-fired trigger on the sig.
S&W makes some fine firearms, and have even owned a few. The M&P line checks a lot of boxes, but the lack of a magazine safety isn't for me. Maybe it's because I began on slab-sided pistols, but for whatever reason my hands love the shape of the 365 and the X-series. I naturally cover my shooting hand's thumb with the thumb of my supporting hand, and that brings both down and out of the way of the slide. On the 365 with the 12 round magazine, it feels really secure.
After trying out the S&W, Springfield Hellcat, and Sig P365X, I chose the P365 for its small concealable frame, reliability, accuracy, and capacity( mine came with 3, 12-rounds magazines). What's not to like? One drawback, Price! but it is worth it in my opinion.
Excellent video. The Sig P-365 is a nice little pistol but I would never give my Shield up. My reason is simple, for me my Shield does everything I need it to do.
Took my wife to the indoor range yesterday, and had her shoot all the most popular single stack nines, against my Sig P365. I had her shoot two rounds with the Sig, and then two with the competitor. Each time she chose the Sig. Over the Glock 43, the Shield, the Walther, the Ruger, and the XDS. She is five feet tall, and 109 pounds. Having the ability to shoot them all side by side was helpful.
OOps,,, I made it sound like she only shot two rounds total. She shot as many as it took for her to pick a winner, and then test the winner against the next pistol in line. She shot at least ten shots,,, two at a time,,, with each pistol. She just kept picking the Sig. The Glock 43 was second.
I had carried the Shield and M&P 9c original for years depending on my attire. The other day I just edited them to the safe. I loved them, but the 365 is smaller than the Shield and holds 10 rounds. I have the 12 round magazine which is a hair bigger than the 7 rounds in the Shield and a hair smaller than the 8 round Shield magazine. One gun covers all my needs now. As fair as reliability I have over 700 flawless rounds with all types of ammo. I have the version after the fix.
That's awesome! Glad to hear more and more success stories with the 365 running well. I agree, the size vs capacity is fantastic. Thank you and cheers!
At this point in time, 2023, I would've considered the Shield Plus since it has the same ammo capacity as the P365, but I prefer the smaller yet still accurate one. Plus, it's the certified Navy Seals Recommended edc firearm. So, I'm very pleased with my P365. Very light and very concealable!!!
Own both. The Shield gets carried more, although I think the 365 is a great little pistol too. The Shield just has that 'go to war' feeling that is hard to quantify or describe. The 365 is almost too small for my hands, and takes a fraction of a second longer to get a purchase on the gun. I still keep it around for deep concealment b/c it has a tendency to print less than the Shield. Bottom line, see what you shoot with better and go with that.
Love these videos! One suggestion.....when you place them side by side on the table you should have the targets shot by them beside each gun so we can compare them by seeing them at the same time!!!
I carry the same. I think a lot of guys choose magazine capacity over any other feature of a gun. The stats say the average amount of rounds fired in a gunfight is 3.59.
I really like my P365. As of now I have 350 trouble-free rounds. However, I can see noticeable wear on the barrel and denting on the corners of the casing of the barrel opposite the feeder ramp. I also have a Sig M11-A1 and a P226 Legion SAO - both with many, many more rounds through them and they both show less wear than the P365 is showing. I do like the gun and enjoy shooting it. But, I am concerned about the wear…
Carried a Sig 1911 Nightmare Carry for the past 6 years. Wanted to get something smaller just so I'd have options. Really didn't want to move to a smaller caliber with the same capacity as my 1911, so when the p365 came out I jumped on one ASAP.
Finally shot my P365 and Shield 9mm (Non M2.0). Put 150 rounds through the P365 and I am impressed. It performed 100% reliable. Trigger is excellent, but hard to beat the Apex trigger in my Shield. I was more accurate with first shots with my Shield, but due to being more familiar with it since I have carried it for many years now. The P365 was easy to get used to though and it is very accurate. I pretty much see the P365 replacing my Shield at this point. Still going to put a about 400 more rouns through the P365 before I commit. Never thought I would replace the Shield. I don't think I will be selling or trading it off though. As for looks, I think the Sheild wins hands down! The P365 is just not great looking, but hey that is not the point of it. I agree with you on the Shield mag release, it is perfect. Now on the P365 I can't actuate the mag release with my firing hand because it pushed into my palm. Will have to use my non firing hand. No big deal just training. Great video as always, KS!
Great stuff Claymore! Glad your 365 is running well. They really are great guns. I do agree with you about the looks of the Shield. They have great lines! Thank you as always and cheers!
I will say this about my M&P Shield, or the one that my wife carries. We have put way over a 1k rounds through though them, and neither has ever Jammed. Now I did have a mist fire, but it was bc of cheap target ammo and I say this bc, the round that miss fired in mine, I put in my wifes M&P, and it didn't fire in hers either. So IMO, it was a bad cap bc it miss fired in both our M&P's!!!! I will also say, the M&P in the 40 cals for sure, has more slide tension that I've ever felt in a semi auto hand gun!!!
I do have two p365's. I now also have the New P365 XL Which fits a larger hand without having to change the grip. Sig knocked it out of the park with the P365XL
I've been carrying the original shield for five years now. Love that gun, no upgrades except the hogue grip and never had one single malfunction. Shield for the win for me.
I just picked up the Shield 2.0 subcompact Saturday. Both of these were on my list and the Shield was the only one I could find locally. Got it for $533 out the door at a local Mom and Pop Shop with 2 magazines.
Excellent comparison! I just got a shield 2.0 for $330 and then get $50 s&w rebate. The roomy grip on the shield sold me instantly with my gorilla hands over ruger, glock, and sig. All great guns but to me a gun is like shoes, when you find a pair that fit perfect you know it right away!
HOLY OBJECTIVE REVIEW BATMAN. You actually picked a gun OVER the p365. Foregoing the extra size and weight. Wonders will never cease. I knew you could do it.
Love your videos!! I am one of the Glock fanboy wannabes-I loved the look and feel of the 43 and 19- that being said I just could not shoot them accurately- those triggers do not work FOR ME...so they went for a couple Sigs p320 and P365 Back to the point, I was fortunate to get my hands on a 365 and I have the shield 2.0-both stock with night sights My hands are medium size so the 365 grip is fine for me- I think the 2.0 grip is a bit too aggressive for me but I’m getting used to it- I think recoil is about the same in these guns and my experience so far (200 rounds in each) is that the 365 is a bit more accurate- for me! That being said the shield is a bit more fun for me to shoot just because of the grip size- but for EDC I think the 365 goes if only because of the 10 plus 1 I thank God we live in a country where we don’t have to choose just 1! 😊 I LOVE THEM BOTH!! God bless America
Thank you very much Charles! Excellent points indeed and I’m glad they are both running for you! We are living in good times for sure. Thank you and cheers!
KSGunGuy 👍🏻👍🏻 I am literally shooting my p365 and p320 and m&p 2.0 RIGHT NOW! And today I’m shooting the shield 2.0 the best and it definitely has less recoil - but as always your mileage may vary 😊😊 Thank you for the reply sir! Keep up the good work!
I am so glad you live in the United States! I don’t live there, I live in California where, for now, Shield 2.0 and the P365 are NOT allowed to be sold to regular citizens because they do NOT appear on the current roster of allowed for sale hand guns!!! I own and LOVE the first gen Shield. I bought for my 13 year old daughter because she said it felt the best in hand; I am so jealous, I am thinking of getting another for me! I don’t know if I can rent the 2.0 at a range, but maybe I’ll use my passport and travel from CA to the United States soon...
P365 - 10+1, no need to replace the trigger or sights, they're now readily available around $500 & they're running great. Yeah, spend the extra $$$ at the counter for the Sig because you'll spend more getting the S&W up to par. Good vid man.
If you need a firearm with 11 rounds to stop a threat, that means one thing. You need to practice more. The stock trigger and sights on The Shield are just fine. You can spend as much money as you want on accessories and upgrades thinking it will make you shoot better. You only be fooling yourself.
Thanks for the video man, i am in the market for small 9mm for sumertime carry and have been watching all your comparisons on them (walther pps,glock 43, sig p365, etc. but i am leaning towards the shield 2.0). I hope i wont regret it.
Happy to do it! I think you will really like the Shield. It's still my primary carry and I don't see that changing any time soon. Thank you and cheers!
On someone else's review, the Sig 365 was doing something called primer drag, after around 900 rounds, the trigger broke that is the spring related to the trigger broke! In another video, the tip of firing pin broke. What say you about this? Aknown problem?
I have heard that but did not experience it for myself so I can't really speak to it. That said, I do feel it's a "known problem" and should definitely be addressed by Sig. Thank you and cheers!
Ive had my shield 9mm for 4 years now, bought it for $300, no mods, no issues, and is my daily carry, and still looks new. I take it to the range about once a month, eats all types of ammo. I shot off my hollow points about every 3 months.
Bought a shield new in store for $339, the price difference is yugeeee. P365 may be nice but it’s not that nice that it’s worth this much more than the shield.
As a armed professional that carries both on the job and in my personal life. The Smith & Wesson Shield is the epitome of what others are trying to achieve. Thus far I think the Sig 365 is about as close as anyone has come to the shield. My agency has the shield on the approved list and that's what I carry. The Sig 365 has been tested by my agency and is not currently on the approved list. Not to be long-winded but I agree with your assessment of these two platforms. I to give the nod to the Smith & Wesson Shield because I trust my life with it and the life of my clients with it.
I agree! Thank you and cheers!
So now that's been almost a year since your comment is the 365 on the approved list yet?
Its November of 2019. Sig 365 is still NOT approved agencies. I am told.😂
Spring rides on the mag and eventually breaks with the sig. Reliability before capacity or better sights
Sig 365XL FTW. It is the Goldilocks.
Sig hit it out of the park with the P365 features and design. Maximum capacity and minimal size. The trigger breaks at a nice point, not too far back like many other pistols. The only issue a lot of people seem to have is that it may be too small for a lot of people to hold comfortably, which is why those people usually go with the 12 round mag. My hand fits perfectly with the 10 round mag with the extended pinky grip so I'm in love with it. The $250 price tag on the 1.0 shield definitely has me interested in getting one as a backup/beater gun though. I'm sure you can't go wrong with the P365 or the Shield, just pick what fits best for you.
Well said! It’s great that we have so many options. Thank you and cheers!
Thank for the review. I went to a gun show and held...The Sig 365, Glock 26, 43, PPQ and M&P Shield 2.0. I must say the shield felt extremely good in my hand. I ended up getting the Shield with the Red CTL built in and must say after some range time Im extremely happy with my choice. The 365 is great in hand but not as good to me in my hand compared to the Shield. Great video
Thank you very much! That's a great assortment of guns you got to handle. I agree that the Shield feels good in the hand and it's a shooter too! Cheers!
Hmm you give the M&P the price point, but then change the sights and trigger. Killing that price advantage. The P365 smaller/lighter and higher capacity. My vote is the P365 . Great video thanks
Thank you very much Dave! Yes, the Shield does have the aftermarket stuff on it. Those were from previous vids but the stock Shield is still awesome. Either way, both guns are great. Chheers!
But you have to factor sending the sig back to get fixed and the shipping
I address that in the video
@dig duck not so much in this case from reviews though....365 shoots extremely well by most accounts
@@chtomlin *dig duck* has a point which agrees with physics. The SIG P365 slide & handle design may make it a little easier
to shoot compared with other *sub-compacts.* But a heavier &/or larger gun is easier to "extremely" easier shoot due to
the laws of physics.
Note: Unless there is SIG magic involved *Chuck T.* ; )
I used to to have Sigs and carried one everyday for almost nine years. I switched to Smith & Wesson and love the Smith & Wesson Shield.
I agree with your pick.
The Smith and Wesson will save your life better than cigs...
When I first saw this video I agreed wholeheartedly in my appreciation for the Shield. I've had a P365 for about a year. Gradually I've come to the realization that the 365 and my future XL will probably replace every other gun I own in 9mm. They are just that good. I sold a Shield 9 recently still have another one but maybe not forever. The 365 is very good and you can't deny the capacity advantage it has. Love you videos they make the viewer think about what was covered more than others.
Only a matter of time before they make some type of a Shield 3.0 that has a staggered double stack magazine (like the Hellcat/365) and is the same size
I'm in the market for my first carry piece but I just can't get behind the P365 100%. I may just go with a bodyguard for now and hope for that 3.0!!
They basically did come out with a double stack Shield. The M&P 2.0 Subcompact. It's thicker and slightly longer, but you get twelve rounds for carry and the 17 round full size mags will fit in it for the range. (Also comes with a slip on grip extender for the 15 and 17 round mags) I love mine. They can be hard to find right now, but worth every penny if you can.
@@JV-tk9yn I wouldn't get a bodyguard. Go shield or m2.0 compact.
Running Bear same here man hopefully they make something soon! I could see them releasing it this Holiday season
Running Bear so true lol. Sounds just like my Shield I added night sights and the apex trigger/spring kit
Your choice is understandable from a training perspective. I've run 300 rounds through my P365 and I plan on taking a few classes with it to get used to the differences between it and the thicker double stack subcompacts that I am used to. It is fairly snappy but very accurate. After 1,000 plus rounds and a couple of classes, I should feel very confident with it. I hope so because I've already mentally committed.
Thank you very much! The 365 is a great gun for sure. Keep me posted on how it runs long term. I love hearing updates from everybody. Cheers!
Love the Shield! Added a Hogue slip on grip, Apex trigger, extended mag release, HYVE mag extension, custom back plate, Olight PL Mini 2 light and night sights. Fun gun to personalize and after 500+ rounds, not 1 misfire after modifications. Love Sig too, both great guns, but can't personalize the Sig like I did with the Shield.
I did the hogue grip, and mag extension for my shield I've carried it for 5 years, and I usually fire a 100 rounds a month, and haven't had any issues. This gun is a rugged little champ.
How did you put on a Olight with no rail on the shield?
@@drewblack7142 the 2.0 version has a pic rail.
@@KamikazKid Ty
yeah sig has that proprietary rail i dont like so much. i want to get a custom grip module for my p365xl . i dont need the mag extensions 12 is enough for me and its crazy concealable. also thinking about the sig romeozero rds.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I had winnowed it down to these two for my next purchase. Between you and the Honest Outlaw, I have decided: if I can run across a deal for the M&P Shield 2.0 around 350 or 400 I will choose it and just replace the sights and buy extra mags. But since I have never had a small carry gun, I will have to adjust to whatever I choose anyway. The size adjustment for the P365 will be the only knock against it, and I will have to get used to anything regardless. Therefore, the best choice for me out of the box is the Sig.
I have resisted the idea of buying the Sig, partly because I already have the P320 in 9mm and 5" barrel. I don't want to be a fan-boy of any name brand. I'm really just looking for the best within my price range. A CZ Shadow 2 is not in my range and it's too big. I have big, and I can't use them for concealed carry. I think even a 4" barrel will be uncomfortable. I haven't seen CZ competing on the sub compact field, and they would probably be too expensive again anyway.
Nope. The P365 has won me, short of a lucky find with the Shield 2.0.
Thanks for making the Video. Great elaboration, and breaking it down. MAC (Military Arms Channel) opened my eyes on the Sig P365. With all the problems Sig is having with it right now, there is no way in hell I"m spending $600, and then, have to send it in for repairs after 800 rounds. The Primer Drag & Broken Firing Pins shit needs to be addressed by Sig BEFORE they send another one out the door. I'll wait until next year on the P365 so they can solve the problems. For now though, I'll run and get the S&W M&P Shield 2.0 for $349.99 {maybe even cheaper), and the extension for 10+1 carry. Hell, who knows. I may not even be interested in the P365 when they do get their shit together.
Thank you very much! I agree, the issues seem overwhelming. Hopefully Sig can get things back on track. Cheers!
After you replace the sights and trigger on the shield, it's actually more expensive and you have to do both for it to be in the ballpark. P365 is better quality, smaller, and just a better design. I carry a P365 and I love it. Good job Sig.
sales #s are a good metric, and give the edge to the Shield, per free market objectivity. ill run MP shield over everything else. way more reliable and durable
@@tomsmith2215 I am a Smith wood and steel guy, but never tried their autoloaders. Purchased a .380 Shield EZ for a new female shooter as a gift. I had a hard time letting it go to the intended recipient. I love my P226 but I am a fan of M&P Shield 9mm, plus it fits my lengthy hands better than Sig compacts. Shield is just as ergonomic as a Walther CCP M2 which fits like a glove with Talon grip tape.
@@Altekameraden79 I ended going w a p365 but I do like shields. If they did right side safety I'd have got the +
@@tomsmith2215 higher sales for cheaper guns
@@carbonfibercrypto2919 I like shields ended up getting a p365 tho
I love these "versus" video, they are so informative, and withstood time very well.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN MISSING ON MY EDC. TACTICAL CHAINSAW!!!
You can never have too many! Thank you and cheers!
I have the 365XL on reserve, but am strongly considering switching to the M&P. It's about $150 cheaper and I don't think the difference is that great. Its an EDC not a range toy.
Love my Shield! Add to that a lifetime warranty and a better customer service experience and you've got a winner!
Just got a 365 with manual safety, love the crisp feel, reminds me of a 1911, nice!
oddly, SIg does not even list the thumb safety model variants on it's website...
Before last year, I'd never felt compelled to own a weapon until a stranger decided to come into my home unannounced while I was there. Thankfully nothing bad happened after the confrontation. But afterward, I sat down to TH-cam and started researching hand guns. I decided on one, went and purchased it, asked a friend of mine who had some property so he could teach me how to shoot. Went to the property with 3 other people and took turns shooting a 3" metal flapper from 50'. Nobody there ever fired/owned the gun I bought. Not knowing how proficient they were, after seeing them shoot. I thought, these guys' guns are out of whack. It seemed they couldn't shoot straight. It was my turn. I shot about 50 rounds. To everyone's amazement, I hit the bullseye every time. I'd never fired a handgun before. They didn't believe me. Then they shot my gun with about the same results. I shot theirs, they were all much heavier, bigger grip, etc. I had a more difficult time and couldn't hit the target as well. I am 5'7" and they were about the same. Our hands were all about the same. All I know is, the gun fit my hand well. It was comfortable, it did what I wanted. It shot straight and I could hit what I aimed at. Since then I've put about a 1000 rounds through it. Never a misfire or a jamb. I clean it every 200 rounds or so. I buy whatever FMJ copper that's on sale and never steel at the recommendation of the sales guy where I bought it. The gun, S&W Shield 9mm... not the 2.0. It still shoots like it was brand new and just as well with the same results and couldn't be happier with it. Then again, what do I know?
Both guns are great. I've shot both. Own the p265 and many more. Important thing is you own a gun at all and are ready to protect yourself and family.
Good for you for being proactive & arming yourself. We need more good people like you armed and able to protect yourself & others.
Very good comparison. My thoughts after this:
1. If you could only have one, the P365 is thinner, smaller, which means the most comfortable and smallest practical and still be 9MM, which opens up your wardrobe.
2. If you could only have one, which is usually the case, the P365 is stainless, which means no rust, even after the finish gets scratched and being handled without wiping down the slide with oil.
3. If you could only have one, the P365 magazine can hold 10 rounds with no size or weight sacrifice, and magazine swaps increase your risk.
4. If you could only have one, the P365's barrel is center line is closer to hand thereby reducing muzzle jump.
5. If you could only have one, the P365 comes with sights that work at night, and thus could also be used for home defense as-is.
6. If you could only have one, the extra $150 for the P365 doesn't matter, and unless you are a gunsmith, if you replace the sights on the Shield, it already costs as much as a P365, without all of the other benefits.
7. From looking at the video it appears the P365 has more clearance for stuff to get into it from the top of the gun than the Shield 2.0.
8. If you conceal and carry other handguns, and are used to having your thumb in the area occupied by the slide on the P365, then you want the Shield 2.0.
*Both guns can be ordered with safety features that are compliant for their state.
Specs for Shield 2.0:
- 20.21 oz.
- Length 6.1", height 4.4", width 1.03"
- Barrel length 3.1"
- Magazine capacity 7
Specs for P365
- 17.8 oz. (However, when loaded with the 3 additional rounds...)
- Length 5.8", height 4.3", width 1.00"
- Barrel length 3.1"
- Magazine capacity 10
Fast forward to December 2020. Now go find some 9mm ammo.
You can find some, it just takes a while to look around and more expensive. If you had some rounds in reserve before hand, more power to you.
@@jlinka79 Where?
@@McBeakerson Now that's a trip! I can't find any 9mm. But I can get .357 and .38 defensive rounds of which I have plenty! As well as 00 buckshot.
Is it still hard to get ammo? I’m debating a 365 and glock 19/43/42. Hard to find new guns here in retail stores.
It's in safe top shelf on the left there's about 2000 of target ammo left😜
This topic could go on for years. The most important thing is that which everyone u choose it has to serve its purpose. That is comfort grip, trigger, sights, rounds etc. Make sure its comfortable and u can shoot actuate, thats the point. It DON'T matter which brand u carry.
Very good point! Thank you and cheers!
Very helpful. Im shopping and these two were my finalists. Thank you for a great comparison and unbiased viewpoint.
All I own are S&W’s but dam does that P365 look and sound appealing 🤤🤤
I bought the XL version and have to say man the grip and ergonomics are fantastic. I love it so much I stop carrying my VP9SK and the Sheild for it
@@alexalvarado2693 Hey I just recently bought one How do you like it so far and if you don’t mind how much was it
The p365 is the best pocket gun but the shield fits the hands a lot better. So I use my p365 as a pocket gun and my shield as a hip gun. I say buy both.
I’m the same. S&W through and through for my whole life. M&P 9 gen 1 is my favorite firearm I own. My primary carry is a 636 J Frame. I’ve been putting off a small semi auto 9 for carry for years. I went back and forth between the M&P shield, Kimber Micro 9, Hellcat, and Sig P365. I held the hellcat and ruled it out instantly as I didn’t like it’s ergonomics. A friend has the Kimber Micro 9 and I loved how it felt, fit, looked, and carried. The only knock was it has 7+1. It came down to the shield and P365. I went P365 as it felt just as good in my hand as the shield but has more ammo capacity, and is a tad more versatile due to its slightly smaller size. I carry the 12 round mag when I carry it OWB and I carry the 10 round flush plat mag IWB or pocket carry. The shield is too big for me to pocket carry, slightly too large for me to feel comfortable IWB carry.
I just bought my first ccw gun a couple weeks ago and I was looking at these 2 plus a couple others . I ended up with the sig 365 tacpac , came with a case , holster and 3 10+1 mags, I also bought 3 15rd mags when I picked up the gun. The sig was more comfortable to me then the others. Found it to be accurate at 30ft and out of the box work flawlessly. Now other family members want one but can’t find one . It was nice when pick up the gun from the store they keep ammo just for gun purchasers so you will have ammunition when you buy your gun .
I purchased that same setup back in December! I tested the trigger and it breaks at 4.6 pounds which is amazing for an OEM trigger. It's now my pocket gun and im glad I purchased the one with the external safety. I love the gun but I still prefer my upgraded shield as a hip gun. I have big hands so I can't shoot the p365 with speed like I can with the shield. It's still a great gun and I think it's the best one for a female. If I had a wife or daughter the p365 is the one I would buy for them. It's basically all you need for Concealed Carry but it's not my top choice because of my hand size. Even with the hogue grip it doesn't feel as good as the shield in my hands. Im red/green color blind so the sights on the p365 doesn't work very well for me.
Everyone has different hand sizes and eye's so there really is no perfect gun. Personally I think everyone should own both pistols because they're both awesome. Now I have the perfect pocket gun and the perfect hip gun for Concealed Carry 😁👍. It's good to have more than one small Carry pistol because it's what you're going to carry the most.
Excellent review. So many great choices out there now, all but a few are excellent guns.
So many people leave comments how they know the perfect handgun for self defensive carrying. They really only know what they like for themselves because not every gun is the best choice for everyone. I would say that reliability is the most important thing, next, hand size is the biggest factor for determining witch gun to get, what fits a persons hand best. Round count is another factor but carry an extra magazine, something everyone should do incase of mag failures, and the round count becomes less important although still real important in a gun fight. Make sure your choice is small and light enough so you will always have it on you, next, get one that you can hit stuff at close range without aiming, you just point it and shoot, and hit your close target because that is a real gunfight, first hit wins, second place, you're dead. Tactics, not fast draw will get you shooting first, never quick draw into a gunfight, always see what is about to happen and be holding your gun when it does, awareness and tactics not quickness gets your shots on target first, first = winning.
You won't have the time or ability to aim with those new night sights, it's a close up, point and shoot game your going to be in, so get a gun you can point and hit, then practice that.
If you shoot or dry fire at least twice a week, you can switch gun choices otherwise, stick to just one gun choice. I shoot a lot and go 50/50 between Glock 26 and Glock 43 depends on what I'm waring or the mood I'm in. I am like the G26 best with the +2 base plate, extra 2 rounds is nice but mostly I like that base plate because it's way easier to draw.
Good luck with your tactics whatever you do.
Great thoughts! Thank you for sharing and cheers!
That’s the video I was looking for!! I have owned the Shield for about 5 years and I love it. I just ordered he 365 and I can’t wait to start shooting it.
How are you liking shooting them both? I'm deciding now.
Curry In A Hurry Automotive Mobile Mechanic in my opinion the 365 shoots better and feels a little bit better on my hand. I have small hands, it has less recoil
I would go smith for a few reasons. Price, sig recalls, and made in 🇺🇸
I agree! Thank you and cheers!
Sig made in USA too
Sig is better ...facts
@@bonnypalmztv5845
Nope... that's your opinion.
I’m commenting while watching the video. My grandpa hit a target 75 yards away with my P365. SIG has the perfect angle on the grip.
From Burke in WA.4/20/18. EXCELLENT review. Both guns are top. I pocket carry a shield9 w.green Viridian laser. (Ret.l.e.o.42 yrs.) The SHIELD is available w.external safety if U want one; 365 does NOT. My SHIELD9 carries 10+1 (mag-guts+2). For me, the SHIELD wins. Not 1 failure or issue. It shoots wonderfully and comfortably. It eats ALL ammo 365 can't be found in Seattle area @ this time.
That’s awesome Burke! A great gun for sure brother. Cheers!
You can get 365 with safety
My friend has one on order from the west coast army in Belview.
I own them both and love them both. Guns are a funny thing, like many of your followers have mentioned. There is no one size fits all with a firearm. I will never get rid of my shield 9mm, but I'm hoping my 365 will become my edc. I only have 150 rounds through my 365, as I just bought it a week ago. Nov 2018 born on date. There were no failures of any kind for first 150. I hope they really did work out the bugs, I am routing for the 365 to be a reliable gun.
Very well said and I agree! Hopefully your 365 will be flawless. Most are these days. Thank you and cheers!
Just came from the range with my new p365. 150 flawless FMJ rounds and 20 flawless rounds of HST. I still prefer the ergos and shootability of my. 45 shield with 185gr rounds but the p365 is a real game changer. Won't really understand the size until u hold it... It's small. Can't deny the size/capacity ratio. Vedder light tuck on thee way.
Congrats on the new score Paul! That’s awesome brother. Glad it running for you! I am hearing more and more reports of the 365s running well so I think the issues early adopters were having has been worked out. I agree about the size vs capacity thing too. Truly may be a game changer. Thank you and cheers!
What rounds do you use in your shield 45 for carry?
@@chrisd933 if it's still any indention, I carry 165 grain HST in mine
Lani Wade thanks, I bet that’s a good round for it, lately I’ve been carrying a Glock 19
Lani Wade 😂 I actually like federal too I have hst I think 115 grain in the 19, you like heavier grains and do you like the hydra shock better then the hst?
After watching you shoot both, I noticed that the shield had a better recoil than the 365. The 365 seemed to recoil back and wavered side to side a bit. But the shield was straight back mostly. So you seemed to shoot it more confidently with a repeatedly quicker next shot.
I think this is to do with the shorter grip mostly. But the shorter barrel does make the issue worse.
I saw the xl 365 does better with the longer barrel. But the short grip is both its best and worse feature in my opinion.
The grip on the 365 looks like it would be great for me with my small hands. But I think I'd have the same result and would find the shield to be better to shoot.
Thank you for the video. As always your comparison was very well done and I really appreciate hearing your opinion. 😎👍
It was between the Shield 2.0 and the P365 for me. I spent about an hour at the range with each and it really was a toss up - both shot phenomenally. Ultimately I liked the sights and the grip on the P365 enough to buy it, even though I've been a S&W man my whole life. Thank you for your review!
This was literally me 2 months ago as I was buying my first pistol but I grew up like smith and wesson i have their knives and the s&w m&p 15 but the sig was just too good
I have both old versions of each and I was struggling with what I would carry even after range sessions, But your video lead me to the road to nowhere "Ringo Star" no , I will carry the P365, but not ashamed to carry the S&W when need be. Thanks for your eval.
Love my Shield 2.0 ,and her big brother, the Compact 2.0!
Smith is really taking off the gloves this time around, excellent videos. 👍
Well said! I do agree with that 100%. Thank you and cheers!
kmsharley75 that's the combo i rock 2.0c and 2.0 shield in rotation for carry.
I too use the Shield to back up my 2.0 Compact. At work I carry the M&P40 so I carry a Shield 40 on my vest. Great little guns. I’m sure the SIGs are great, but I’m not going to invest in new holsters, mags and sights at this point.
Thanks for an excellent review. I own a 9mm 2.0 Shield -- love it. As they say, the grass is always greener, so I would like to try a 365, but my skepticism is in regards to mass/weight and recoil. Before buying the Shield, I carried an LCP-II 380 ACP, and the small size and recoil just killed my trigger hand. The Shield solved that problem, and I don't want to regress. Shooting the 365 should tell the tale for me.
>> KSGG
That’s awesome Bama! All three are good guns for sure. Glad to have so many choices! Thank you and cheers!
First and Foremost, I am older than you so you must do as I say! Please continue Safety checking at the beginning of your video's. It's not for me or any other knowledgeable firearms owner, but for those younger and perhaps new to the shooting world it's good training! I can suck it up. I always safety check and lock the slide or open the cylinder before handing my firearm to another, ALWAY'S it's the proper thing to do! Tough choice I can see why the Shield would be your choice! I'm on the opposite side, smaller hands and body frame so the P 365 wins for me. And yes for me more is better! I kept thinking the Shield ran out of ammo before you really got in to it at the range shoot. Really Good and Honest Review, Thank You for your time and effort here.
I agree about the safety checking and will continue to do it. I totally understand where you are coming from with the small hands and the 365 may make sense for you. Thank you very much for watching and cheers!
Can’t go wrong with the Smith & Wesson Shield. You’re getting an extremely reliable firearm that’s approved by most LE agencies PLUS the occasional factory rebates! My daily is a gen 1 M&P shield 9 however I recently picked up a 2.0 plus for $324.99 after rebate! A far cry from a base Sig 365 @ $499.
For people complaining about you checking to make sure it’s not loaded should not have guns. That’s gun safety 101. I check my guns always even though I know for a fact I put it in the safe unloaded
@Grey Man which would make you the dude who has a negligent discharge
I just got an LCP 2 for my first carry gun but when S&W comes out with their own "micro compact" 10 or 11 round Shield I'm buying day one.
Hey that's a great idea.i thought of buying either a p365 or a hellcat.but I like s&w so much.im gonna wait now.u got a point
Shield plus is out now
Good review, just sold a Shield to get the P365. Right now, the Shield is a proven entity and there have been some teething problems with the SIG (they will fix them) so I agree with your assessment. However, I couldn't resist the new SIG...
Thank you! I totally understand and hopefully everything will get worked out. Cheers!
Own both, love both. For me EDC P365 all day. 12rounds, no brainer.
Love my p365 got it a couple months ago 2021. No issues with it at all. Got a couple 12 round mags, pocket holster, nobody knows I'm carrying it. Best pistol so far in my opinion. They fix all these issues 3 years ago.
P365 12 round mag ALL DAY
I understand what you're saying but to tell you the truth I own the shield and and it's been perfect but still my favorite gun is my H&K p2000sk H&K rocks
Try the 15 round mag. 👍
Right? I got the tac pac and they gave me 3 15 round mags... not bad for first gun purchase!
with the 365 you can even get a 15rd mag for the 365 i love my 365 also have a glock 42
Late comment but, if you need more than 4 or 5 rounds to get it done, head to the range and practice, I'm at 7+1, all good for me with the Shield.
Just purchased a P365 with ambi safety for 439.00 . Added talon grips to cover un-stippled portion of the upper grip. The safety is well designed and easy to use. I pocket carry this gun without any issues. 12 rd. Mag makes gripping easy. Purchased a 15 rd. Mag but it is ugly, awkward and flat but having a 16 rd. Backup mag is priceless!
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
I love my shield. Fires when I need it too and was super cheap so I don’t care if I thrash it around
Well said! Thank you and cheers!
Good points, cheap, don't care if you trash it, and reliable. Nothing to love about it and get attached to. Just buy another one once its worn out or ugly from abuse.
Thanks for the comparison and the comments. You've helped me make up my mind
on the purchase. Provided I can find one I'm going w/the sig. really enjoyed it
That's awesome Ken! Thank you and cheers!
Great video! Loved the comparison between those two awesome carry guns. I have owned 2 of the original Smith & Wesson Shields (1.0 model) and was pretty impressed with the weapon. However, in your video you make note that you've added a trigger package from Apex, and also changed out the sights. If this had been a straight up stock comparison, hands down the P365 wins. I have my P365 as my EDC, and haven't ever had any malfunctions. I did replace my Springfield XD-S 9mm 4" with the P365. Love the gun, doubt I'll ever change the P365 out for anything else. For me, it's the perfect carry gun.
Thank you very much! Very true that the Shield has some enhancements and out of the box, the 365 offers quite a bit. I still opt for the Shield, but just barely. I agree about the experience and haven’t had function issues with my 365 either. I think that hype is dying down (which is a good thing). Cheers Nate!
Love my Sig P365! I bought the Gen ll. 2k rounds not one problem. I'm 6"3 220 but I have a 33 inch waist. So printing is a big problem. I like wearing figure fitting clothes. So the Sig P365 fit's my every day wear. I trust my EDC P365. The P365 replaced my XD 40. I have strong hands the P365 is one of the best weapons I have shot. The trigger and sights are amazing for a out of the box weapon.
Go rent one at your local gun shop/range. You won't be disappointed.
Got my Sig p365 for $500.
That’s awesome! Im glad you like it Mace. Thank you and cheers!
That 365 is tiny nice sights. I saw your comparison with 43. I thank I'd go with the 365. Just for situations when I can't carry my G19. Good video well done.
Thank you very much Uncle Dan! The 365 has been a real pleasure so far. Cheers!
KSGunGuy 👍
Agreed! I have 800 rds through my sig. Zero problems. The gun is a beast. Its my 24/7 "365" 😂
James Perry yeah it's a great option. I subbed you.
The sights on the sig are one of my favorite features on this gun.
Sig cost now $499. 10+1 can be had in 12+1. Smaller in dimension. X-ray sight. Front functional serrations. Teething problems fixed for 2019 models. "Full" rail. Nice vid btw.
They are indeed fully loaded. I love the X -Ray sights! Thank you and cheers!
Love the review, I went with the Sig. I’ve got small hands, so it couldn’t be any better in my book.
Quit apologizing to the trolls and fan boys who won’t listen to logic. Ignore them and they go away.
I have an original run Shield in 9 and after nearly 2,000 rounds it has been absolutely flawless. I have been chasing the “perfect” CCW gun for years and no matter what I buy, I keep coming back to the Shield for size, reliability, accuracy and a proven platform. The 365 is overly concerning with the early run issues.
I did upgrade the sights to TruGlo FTOs and I added some grip tape just to give it a little extra girth in my hand. That corrected my pulling-to-the-left groupings. I do with it had higher capacity but the trade off is right on par and realistically, I likely won’t need more than 9 to take care of business. If I do, I grab the backup mag I always carry.
Apologies. TruGlo TFO sights.
That’s awesome! I agree, the Shield really is in the sweet spot between small yet shootable. Those TFO sights are very nice. Thank you and cheers!
I shoot my original Shield better than the Sig, have shoot over 3300 rounds no issues, and best of all I got it for $224 out the door. No reason to change.
10 rounds of 9mm in a gun I could just about hang on my keychain. 👍
I own both and having more rounds in a smaller lighter package is a big big selling point so I am going to have to say You Betcha!
11 rounds. 1 in the pipe, 10 in the mag.
Just for argument sake, by the time an apex trigger & after market sights are installed, the Shield costs as much or more as the 365.
Just an observation. Our shields are excellent carry guns. We have no complaints. But this Sig is impressive and has promise.
You are 100% correct! Thankfully the Smith doesn't absolutely have to have the changes, but they are fun. I do agree that the Sig has promise and have really enjoyed testing it. Thank you and cheers!
The stock Shield is just fine. There are people who will spend money on any accessory or any upgrade because they think it will make them shoot better. The joke's on them.
Sold the 365. The grip is just too small. It’s like holding the box toothpaste comes in under a gun. It made me shoot my other handguns poorly because of the adjustment made for gripping it. M&P for sure, and it shoots softer for that second or third follow up round.
So you have Soft hands and can’t handle 9mm recoil, it’s obvious you don’t own a shotgun.
@@stiftarcory4364 -- You are over-thinking Robert's comment. The small grip doesn't allow you to get a good purchase with both hands on the gun like you could with a larger grip. The 365 is snappier to shoot because of that.
These days there's the Shield Plus...
@@stiftarcory4364 L comment Lmao… 😂
have the shield, want the 365
Me Exactly.
I've got the shield in 45 and just recently pick up the Sig for the added capacity. I'm torn as I really like the shield. Its bitter and heavier, but it just fits my hands perfectly and I shoot it much better. Maybe I'll shoot the Sig better once I can get some affordable and available ammo thru it!
I have both, the Shield (1.0) and a P365 and have to agree with you. If I had to pick one it would be the Shield. I have been shooting the Sig trying to get used to it but shoot the Shield much better. SOooo, until I get comfortable with the Sig my Shield is my go to carry gun.I did have a Apex trigger installed, not the full kit but it is AWESOME. That said, the trigger on the Sig ia almost as good out of the box.
The Sig was hard to find when it came out because of demand and shortage of guns, today you can get the improved P365. improved because they fixed anything that was wrong with the initial release version. The Sig has a great trigger, and fantastic magazine design. The Sig was the clear winner, price isn't everything.
I have them both! I like them both. Having said that, I agree with you 100% I had two of the Shields when the Sig came out and was on the cover of every Handgun Magazine. I had to have one! I have told my shooting buddies that if I could only have one it would be the Shield and today I saw your well written review. Nice job.
I haven't had a chance to shoot the Sig but have two Shields and love them. It's a great looking gun and I like your choice.
Thank you very much Aaron! I agree, the Shields are really good looking and great shooters. Cheers!
Great review & info. I own both and completely agree. I picked up the 365 about a year ago and it's very nice, but I too had to make adjustments to my normal shooting for it because of it's small size. If you're hands are smaller, then the 365 is probably a wonderful firearm. But for me it was quite challenging to shoot accurately as I'm used to with my other firearms.
I have not experienced the M&P, but I love my Sig 365!! .. totally awesome gun.
I bought a Shield 4 years ago and it was my EDC for awhile, and I liked it just fine. Then a couple years ago I bought the P365, and the Shield pretty much sat in the safe. I know that some people have had issues with the P365, but I've put several hundred rounds through mine and haven't had a hiccup. Not saying there's anything wrong with the Shield...they're two different guns with different pros and cons, but I just like the P365 better. I enjoy shooting it more, carries more rounds and yet still more compact...I use the 12 round mags and have no issues carrying it concealed. I still have the Shield, however it's relegated to the bedside table or my wife's purse.
I have both and love both. Granted I polished the barrel on the shield and did a full apex trigger job on it as well due to mine being the 1st gen shield. Both really are decent carry guns but the p365 definitely has the edge on concealment.
Best reviews...truly they are and so articulate and polite. Thank you
Thank you very much Ramin! Cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 Thank you buddy, I really meant it. I see lots of these reviews and yours are the best and I don't have to worry about my little kids hear your words unlike other reviews when they use so much profanities and bad words. take care man!
I like a clean channel. Means my family can watch it as well! Thanks again!
I'm 6'2" with giant hands and for some reason I shoot my 365 a hair better than I do my glock 19. Probably a combination of great sights and an excellent striker-fired trigger on the sig.
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
S&W makes some fine firearms, and have even owned a few. The M&P line checks a lot of boxes, but the lack of a magazine safety isn't for me.
Maybe it's because I began on slab-sided pistols, but for whatever reason my hands love the shape of the 365 and the X-series. I naturally cover my shooting hand's thumb with the thumb of my supporting hand, and that brings both down and out of the way of the slide. On the 365 with the 12 round magazine, it feels really secure.
After trying out the S&W, Springfield Hellcat, and Sig P365X, I chose the P365 for its small concealable frame, reliability, accuracy, and capacity( mine came with 3, 12-rounds magazines). What's not to like? One drawback, Price! but it is worth it in my opinion.
Just got mine as well, very happy with it
Excellent video. The Sig P-365 is a nice little pistol but I would never give my Shield up. My reason is simple, for me my Shield does everything I need it to do.
Thank you! Well said about the Shield and I feel the same way. Cheers!
I mean, if you already own it and it works for you, no real reason to buy a new one, whether you think it's a bit of an upgrade or not.
Good point!
For absolute dependability, Shield! Although the 365 has some great features.
Took my wife to the indoor range yesterday, and had her shoot all the most popular single stack nines, against my Sig P365. I had her shoot two rounds with the Sig, and then two with the competitor. Each time she chose the Sig. Over the Glock 43, the Shield, the Walther, the Ruger, and the XDS. She is five feet tall, and 109 pounds.
Having the ability to shoot them all side by side was helpful.
OOps,,, I made it sound like she only shot two rounds total. She shot as many as it took for her to pick a winner, and then test the winner against the next pistol in line. She shot at least ten shots,,, two at a time,,, with each pistol. She just kept picking the Sig. The Glock 43 was second.
I had carried the Shield and M&P 9c original for years depending on my attire. The other day I just edited them to the safe. I loved them, but the 365 is smaller than the Shield and holds 10 rounds. I have the 12 round magazine which is a hair bigger than the 7 rounds in the Shield and a hair smaller than the 8 round Shield magazine. One gun covers all my needs now. As fair as reliability I have over 700 flawless rounds with all types of ammo. I have the version after the fix.
That's awesome! Glad to hear more and more success stories with the 365 running well. I agree, the size vs capacity is fantastic. Thank you and cheers!
At this point in time, 2023, I would've considered the Shield Plus since it has the same ammo capacity as the P365, but I prefer the smaller yet still accurate one. Plus, it's the certified Navy Seals Recommended edc firearm. So, I'm very pleased with my P365. Very light and very concealable!!!
Own both. The Shield gets carried more, although I think the 365 is a great little pistol too. The Shield just has that 'go to war' feeling that is hard to quantify or describe. The 365 is almost too small for my hands, and takes a fraction of a second longer to get a purchase on the gun. I still keep it around for deep concealment b/c it has a tendency to print less than the Shield. Bottom line, see what you shoot with better and go with that.
P365 = 365 days until it's in stock
Hopefully not! Thank you and cheers!
Or until its working right
got mine yesterday finally, works good so far!
Cabela's has them, but you gotta have one near you and you gotta wait for them to ship to the store. They say about 2 weeks, beats 365 days.
Dinglebearry sadly we don't have cabelas in Florida lol
Love these videos! One suggestion.....when you place them side by side on the table you should have the targets shot by them beside each gun so we can compare them by seeing them at the same time!!!
Thank you very much for the suggestion! Cheers!
Have the shield 45 2.0 pc love it awsome little pistol
I agree, the 45 is awesome! Thank you and cheers!
Is it larger than the other shields ?
Slightly
I carry the same. I think a lot of guys choose magazine capacity over any other feature of a gun. The stats say the average amount of rounds fired in a gunfight is 3.59.
i have the shield performance center 45 and love it
I really like my P365. As of now I have 350 trouble-free rounds. However, I can see noticeable wear on the barrel and denting on the corners of the casing of the barrel opposite the feeder ramp. I also have a Sig M11-A1 and a P226 Legion SAO - both with many, many more rounds through them and they both show less wear than the P365 is showing. I do like the gun and enjoy shooting it. But, I am concerned about the wear…
The Shield plus vs. 43x with s15 mags! 😎🇺🇸
Carried a Sig 1911 Nightmare Carry for the past 6 years. Wanted to get something smaller just so I'd have options. Really didn't want to move to a smaller caliber with the same capacity as my 1911, so when the p365 came out I jumped on one ASAP.
That's awesome Lukas! It's a great gun for sure, as is the Nightmare. Thank you and cheers!
Finally shot my P365 and Shield 9mm (Non M2.0). Put 150 rounds through the P365 and I am impressed. It performed 100% reliable. Trigger is excellent, but hard to beat the Apex trigger in my Shield. I was more accurate with first shots with my Shield, but due to being more familiar with it since I have carried it for many years now.
The P365 was easy to get used to though and it is very accurate. I pretty much see the P365 replacing my Shield at this point. Still going to put a about 400 more rouns through the P365 before I commit. Never thought I would replace the Shield. I don't think I will be selling or trading it off though.
As for looks, I think the Sheild wins hands down! The P365 is just not great looking, but hey that is not the point of it.
I agree with you on the Shield mag release, it is perfect. Now on the P365 I can't actuate the mag release with my firing hand because it pushed into my palm. Will have to use my non firing hand. No big deal just training.
Great video as always, KS!
Great stuff Claymore! Glad your 365 is running well. They really are great guns. I do agree with you about the looks of the Shield. They have great lines! Thank you as always and cheers!
Current issues with striker breaking in P365 has me a little worried.
@@82lowe36id That has been resolved.
I will say this about my M&P Shield, or the one that my wife carries. We have put way over a 1k rounds through though them, and neither has ever Jammed. Now I did have a mist fire, but it was bc of cheap target ammo and I say this bc, the round that miss fired in mine, I put in my wifes M&P, and it didn't fire in hers either. So IMO, it was a bad cap bc it miss fired in both our M&P's!!!! I will also say, the M&P in the 40 cals for sure, has more slide tension that I've ever felt in a semi auto hand gun!!!
I do have two p365's.
I now also have the New P365 XL
Which fits a larger hand without having to change the grip.
Sig knocked it out of the park with the P365XL
A good gun, though too soon to determine if anything is knocked out of the park. Thank you and cheers!
I've been carrying the original shield for five years now. Love that gun, no upgrades except the hogue grip and never had one single malfunction. Shield for the win for me.
I own a shield, and find it easy to shoot as well, but have to say the Sig's size, weight, and ten round magazines are pretty sweet features.
Very good points! Thank you and cheers!
The Sig has major reliability issues and the Shield is without a doubt the most reliable pocket 9 ever made!
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
They've fixed the firing pin issues. But, I agree. I love the Shield.
I just picked up the Shield 2.0 subcompact Saturday. Both of these were on my list and the Shield was the only one I could find locally. Got it for $533 out the door at a local Mom and Pop Shop with 2 magazines.
I could tell you were going to pick the M&P after watching you shoot both. You were definitely more accurate with the M&P.
Thank you very much! Yes, I shoot the Shield better for sure. Cheers!
Excellent comparison! I just got a shield 2.0 for $330 and then get $50 s&w rebate. The roomy grip on the shield sold me instantly with my gorilla hands over ruger, glock, and sig. All great guns but to me a gun is like shoes, when you find a pair that fit perfect you know it right away!
Both are good but p365 and the 12 round for me
HOLY OBJECTIVE REVIEW BATMAN. You actually picked a gun OVER the p365. Foregoing the extra size and weight. Wonders will never cease. I knew you could do it.
Batting 50% since I’ve only done 2 comparisons with the 365.
Love your videos!!
I am one of the Glock fanboy wannabes-I loved the look and feel of the 43 and 19- that being said I just could not shoot them accurately- those triggers do not work FOR ME...so they went for a couple Sigs p320 and P365
Back to the point, I was fortunate to get my hands on a 365 and I have the shield 2.0-both stock with night sights
My hands are medium size so the 365 grip is fine for me- I think the 2.0 grip is a bit too aggressive for me but I’m getting used to it-
I think recoil is about the same in these guns and my experience so far (200 rounds in each) is that the 365 is a bit more accurate- for me!
That being said the shield is a bit more fun for me to shoot just because of the grip size- but for EDC I think the 365 goes if only because of the 10 plus 1
I thank God we live in a country where we don’t have to choose just 1! 😊
I LOVE THEM BOTH!!
God bless America
Thank you very much Charles! Excellent points indeed and I’m glad they are both running for you! We are living in good times for sure. Thank you and cheers!
KSGunGuy
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I am literally shooting my p365 and p320 and m&p 2.0 RIGHT NOW!
And today I’m shooting the shield 2.0 the best and it definitely has less recoil - but as always your mileage may vary 😊😊
Thank you for the reply sir! Keep up the good work!
Sweet! Love to hear people out making some noise. Enjoy and shoot straight my friend. Thanks again and cheers!
I am so glad you live in the United States! I don’t live there, I live in California where, for now, Shield 2.0 and the P365 are NOT allowed to be sold to regular citizens because they do NOT appear on the current roster of allowed for sale hand guns!!! I own and LOVE the first gen Shield. I bought for my 13 year old daughter because she said it felt the best in hand; I am so jealous, I am thinking of getting another for me! I don’t know if I can rent the 2.0 at a range, but maybe I’ll use my passport and travel from CA to the United States soon...
P365 - 10+1, no need to replace the trigger or sights, they're now readily available around $500 & they're running great. Yeah, spend the extra $$$ at the counter for the Sig because you'll spend more getting the S&W up to par. Good vid man.
The 365 is a great gun for sure! Thank you and cheers!
If you need a firearm with 11 rounds to stop a threat, that means one thing. You need to practice more.
The stock trigger and sights on The Shield are just fine. You can spend as much money as you want on accessories and upgrades thinking it will make you shoot better. You only be fooling yourself.
Thanks for the video man, i am in the market for small 9mm for sumertime carry and have been watching all your comparisons on them (walther pps,glock 43, sig p365, etc. but i am leaning towards the shield 2.0). I hope i wont regret it.
Happy to do it! I think you will really like the Shield. It's still my primary carry and I don't see that changing any time soon. Thank you and cheers!
On someone else's review, the Sig 365 was doing something called primer drag, after around 900 rounds, the trigger broke that is the spring related to the trigger broke! In another video, the tip of firing pin broke. What say you about this? Aknown problem?
I have heard that but did not experience it for myself so I can't really speak to it. That said, I do feel it's a "known problem" and should definitely be addressed by Sig. Thank you and cheers!
I have both the Shield MP 2.0 9mm and the Sig P365 XL and I love both of them. Great review and video. Good shooting and great reviews!!!
SHIELD ALL THE WAY!! ZERO RELIABILITY ISSUES AND YOU CAN REST ASSURE WHEN YOU PULL A SHIELD TRIGGER IT WILL GO BANG EVERY TIME!! 👍
Ive had my shield 9mm for 4 years now, bought it for $300, no mods, no issues, and is my daily carry, and still looks new. I take it to the range about once a month, eats all types of ammo. I shot off my hollow points about every 3 months.
Bought a shield new in store for $339, the price difference is yugeeee. P365 may be nice but it’s not that nice that it’s worth this much more than the shield.
That’s awesome and I agree! Thank you and cheers!
Until you spend $250 on a new trigger and sights, then the price difference vanishes.