@@jonofla I just think the way people talked sounded unnatural and badly directed. Rex's actor especially didn't seem to have any idea what the context was for some of the important lines he had to yell or emote for, and that's why you get the infamous Rex scream or "JOIN MEEEEEEEEE"
Interestingly, when XC3 was recently revealed, they also revealed its world's name to be Aionios and that it tells the future of both XC1 and XC2. The cover motive is Uraya again, but stubbed with the Sword of Mechonis.
@@gamerofgamers1417 It was cut in half, the top half tore Uraya apart when the universes collided and then became embedded in the land known as Swordmarch.
2:30 For anyone who is curious about what this means and about the full power of the conduit, I'd recommend playing the rest of the Xeno series. Xenogears and Xenosaga (The predecessors to Xenoblade) stories are HEAVILY tied to the conduit (also known as the Zohar) and are also just great games. Much of the confusing descriptions of the conduit were references to those games. They do take place in alternate universes (most likely the ones that Klaus was referring to) but they have A LOT of overlap.
I'm sorry, but that's just incorrect. "Xenogears" and "Xenosaga" have absolutely nothing to do with the story of "Xenoblade" beyond being a spiritual successor. If you actual play "Gears" and "Saga", yes, there are some similarities, such as its shape, the fact that they were found in a lake in Africa at an undisclosed point of the 21st century and that it drew initially attention due to its ability to produce infinite energy, but that's where all similarities end. Once you actually enter the story, their functionalities vary drastically. Namely, neither in "Gears" nor "Saga" the Zohar is a link to any multi-verses. In "Gears", it's the vessel of a god-like entity named the Wave Existence, which keeps it trapped in the realm of the human. While in "Saga" it's literally part of U-DO, the actual God of the "Saga" universe. Yes, Takahashi likes to reuse concepts to previous works here and there, but he's not trying to remake the story from "Perfect Works". No, not even in a "let's change enough stuff so neither Square nor Namco can sue us" kind of way. That just falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. I know tons of fans of Monolith desperately want all three franchises to be part of the same narrative, but that's just wishful thinking.
@@XanderVJ (Xenogears/Xenosaga spoilers, obviously) Firstly, the zohar isn't a vessel in which a god-like entity exists. It is a gateway to a higher alternate dimension where these entities exist. In Gears, the wave existence becomes trapped in this gateway between its dimension and the xenogears dimension. In Xenoblade 2, Klaus says the conduit links to mutliple dimensions including a dimension in which energy is just pouring out of which is how pyra/mythra can use their power. In gears and saga, the zohar connects to a higher dimension in which a god like entity exists which basically serves the same function. Also if you look on the wiki the conduits assets are literally named 'zohar' in the game files. The whole thing with africa was just more proof the conduit and zohar are the same things. In all instances, the zohar/conduit serves as a gateway to other dimensions and an energy source. Just because it isn't stated in gears/saga that the zohar can connect to dimensions other than the one in which the wave existences are in doesn't mean its not possible. I mean I think the evidence is pretty conclusive on this one. In the siren model kit, they also describe the conduit using the same phrases perfect works describes the zohar with, such as MAM (Magenetic Abnormal Matter). Edit: Further proof, both the conduit and zohar were used to destroy earth by sending parts of it to other realms. They really just serve the same function here in the story. Just because the zohar got a redesign and a new part of its abilities that was explained doesn't mean it isn't the zohar.
Super cool video. Another neat point is that when Shulk is shot by Dickson and dies, he enters a dream like state with Alvis, surrounded by outer space, and is brought back to life by him. Just like Pyra brings Rex back to life after he’s stabbed by Jin, the dream like place both Shulk and Rex enter are places their trinity processor counterparts would have data or memory of, being outer space where Ontos last was seen in the original universe and Elysium in the state it was originally designed to be in.
Even as someone already familiar with Xenoblade's timeline, this is a great video to watch. Very informative, well-structured, and a pleasant voice. I'm subscribing!
Takahashi legitimately made lore that can connect Xenoblade to every other universe known to fiction and somehow did it better than Kingdom Hearts ever could
I actually have a headcanon which suggests that Klaus' expirement not only created the XC1 and XC2 universes (and possibly X's), but created the entire Nintendo multiverse aswell. Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Fire Emblem, Metroid, etc were all created from that one experiment.
@@jackjohnson8305 I mean KH3 wasn't terrible gameplay wise. the story was just poorly written or translated I'm not sure but yeah it could get better . Like final fantasy got like waayyyyy better
Couple things: -21st century. 20XX is the 21st century, not the 20th. -When Zanza gave the Telethia intelligence, it wasn’t that he “did not intend to do this”. He absolutely did it on purpose. He means it was a mistake in the sense that he believed he had exhibited poor judgement.
I love how you included the Zohar's discovery info as also the information about the Beanstalks mentioned in the Siren's figure box. Thank you for this great video.
Thank you for this :) got quite lost on some bits of the lore, when it started getting so technological, and this was good to get into my head with Xeno 3 just announced
I think the reason the conduit is described as a magnetic material is because it’s clearly inspired by the monolith placed in Africa in 2001: A Space Odyssey. It’s counterpart (or perhaps it’s the same object) later found on the moon is discovered during magnetic surveys which is why the discovery is known as TMA-1, Tycho Magnetic Anomaly 1 (it’s found in the Tycho crater). The conduit is definitely inspired by 2001’s TMA-1. Well, technically the conduit is inspired by the Zohar from Xenogears and Xenosaga but they’re all the same thing and all inspired by the 2001 monolith. Hell, they named themselves Monolith Soft when they left Square.
I believe that core crystals were originally used as replacements for brain cells, before the conduit had even created a separate universe. Due to their regenerative properties, they caused some of humanity to persist as what are called guldo, when they should have died. They weren't created after the activation of the conduit, but merely repurposed. Amalthus COULD have more than one blade (Minoth, Haze, etc.), but didn't awaken the second aegis core because they would end up just like malos. That's why Addam, his polar opposite, was tasked with awakening it instead.
I’ve seen so many of these videos in the past few days thanks to the recent announcement. What’s making me so excited is how there’s even callbacks to Xenosaga and Xenogears. I can’t explain how fascinating and exciting and just plain wowed I am by all this! September needs to come sooner.
Its been a while since you posted this video, but I still wanted to leave a comment. You managed to tell the story of a very complicated series in less than an hour and did an amazing job at it. There were several plot points that never clicked with me, but thanks to your summary they finally did. Now I can appreciate this series even more. Thank you
If it hasn't been pointed out already I have a small correction. It's not that Zanza didn't intend to grant the Telethia intelligence-he did. It was a "mistake" because in hindsight it turned out to be a bad idea. Great video though
It's mighty interesting that the Conduit is described as a perpetual motion machine. Given what we learned from the XC3 trailer, the world they live in not only is locked in an eternal battle they also seem to be overseen by someone or something called "Ouroboros" -- the snake eating its own tail, a neverending circle. A circle that never stops, like a perpetual machine. If the Conduit still exists in Aionios, whoever oversees this current world, might still be able to harness its power through the ritual of off-seeing fallen soldiers that we have seen in the trailer and harnessing whatever energy comes from the dead or those who fill their clock-like things on their weapons. Though, a perpetual machine like the Conduit wouldn't exactly need an external energy source. I really appreciate your video. Especially for the interesting stuff I missed in XC2. Your explanations had good structure making it easy to follow. Keep up the great work!
But didn’t we see the Conduit disappear in both 1 AND 2’s endings? It shouldn’t be in 3’s universe if it is meant to be the unified universe of 1 and 2.
for me, i've played the first game and never had interest in finishing the second (alongside torna) and have been wanting to play the third - so this vid is SUPER good in explaining all of the xc events swiftly, thanks!
Just thought I’d randomly comment on one of my favourite videos about xenoblade in celebration of the XB3 coming out. Now excuse me well i disappear from the internet for the next 100+ hrs to enjoy another entry in this awesome series.
Good stuff all around! Loved listening to this to get a refresher on these timeliness. And now seeing as how Xenoblade Chronicles 3 seems to be merging the two universes together somehow, I'm very interested to see where this all goes down. I'm subscribing
Given the heavy references to Xenosaga in Future Connected, Klaus' experiment likely opened a portal to what is known in Xenosaga as the imaginary domain, an ethereal world where ether takes on physical shapes, this stands in contrast to the nature of ether in Alrest, which is the real domain, the physical world, where ether is not tangible; this is why ether comes together in the shape of crystals in the Endless Sea, but in Alrest it flows accross the world as an imaterial energy. Considering the worlds have collided in Xenoblade 3 it is likely ether is no longer crystallizing, and to get pure ether it is necessary to extract it from living beings, which is what I'm betting the offseer song does, and the overall purpose of the war between Keves and Agnus, which, following the parallels with Xenogears, are the new sacrificial lambs, except this time it's probably not some third kingdom doing the harvesting, but rather the ether is being harvested to keep the Fog Beasts at bay, using Shulk's ether field technology, which in Xenosaga was called the Hilbert Effect and was used to defeat the Gnosis.
Personally I don't believe the trinity processor created a new universe just for Klaus and Gelea. I believe activating the conduit did indeed create an entirely new universe thats basically a pocket dimension with half Klaus and Gelea being the only inhabits and basicully turned them into gods. Said activation also pulled Ontos into it and he became the overseer of the world and only him, granting Klaus and Gelea monado's but is neutral. That's how I see it, I believe Ontos came into the xenoblade 1 world either at the same time or VERY shortly after.
Fantastic Video. I absoluty love both games, but until now I wasn't completly aware of the fact, that Klaus was already Zanza in XC1 and both games events happens parallel. I'lll definitly replay both game until september. So hyped for XC 3 !!!
Thanks for this I suffer from memory problems and struggled to make sense of the overall story as I could not remember everything through these massive games. However I am a big fan of them and this video has helped me feel more prepared for Xenoblade chronicles 3. Also from your video it sounds like Xenoblade chronicles X was humans who left earth before Klaus created the portal's maybe as explorers or to escape the battles I never finished Xenoblade chronicles X so I don't know the whole story or even remember much of it I only really remember the world the music and characters also I enjoyed what I played. Hopefully it will come to the switch.
I agree that XCX must be connected and could be humans from the base universe/planet. Considering they run into mechanical aliens, this could give weight to the interpretation that the alternate universes/worlds already existed - instead of being created - and Klaus’ events merely linked earth/humans to these other places.
I heard a theory once that maybe the hom's were descendents of the giants who traveled to the lower regions of the bionis and eventually evolved to be very small. After all the tomb inside Tephera cave of that one giant is really small for a giants tomb.
The giants were in reference to large humanoid Titans, like Zanza. However they were also a reference to ancient piloted SKELL armor. Xenoblade Chronicles takes place like 1000 years after Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Which takes place a couple thousand years after Xenoblade Chronicles X. The Homs are human, they just forgot about most of their history. Because humanities historical achieves were destroyed in Xenoblade Chronicles X.
@@TheNewHandleThingIsDumb I did watch the video, but I don't 100% agree with their perspective. Xenoblade is based on the premise of humanity starting over, amongst the relics of our once advanced civilization. There's SO much to say on the subject and I don't want to annoy you with a wall of text. So to keep it short I'll simply say that in Xenoblade 1 zippers exist, and in Xenoblade 2 they haven't evolved beyond buttons. Also Morag's uniform looks like something a soldier from the 1700's would wear, and Rex's diving suit was also modeled after that era. Clearly those are indicators that this is supposed to be a different time period.
@@Slackmana it doesn’t matter if xenoblade 2 is less technologically advanced, they are happening at the same time but in different universes. This is made very clear when you here shulks voice in xc2 when klaus dies
@@lama99654 We don't know if both games are happening at the same time... All we do know is that they exist in different universes/dimensions. The ambiguity behind why the tech is different is just as mysterious as why we hear Shulk's voice. Nothing is definitively explained. Our speculation is currently our best resource. Also I think we hear Shulk's voice, because Shulk is connected to the ultimate cataclysm. I could be wrong about everything i said, and he could be right. just saying that i'm gunna keep an open mind until things are definitively explained.
@@linkalot7415 Yeah, it's awesome to see haha. Your video just showed up in my recommended a couple days after the Direct and I actually just finished Xeno 1 for the first time a couple weeks ago (I played xeno 2/torna first). I had to give this a watch! You're doing great stuff and I plan to check out a few of your other videos as well. The Hammerfell video looks hella interesting. KEEP IT UP KING.
After watching this I’m excited for XC3 because I’m interested to see how it plays out cause it’s supposedly “Ties together the futures of the worlds depicted in XC1 and XC2”. The two sides shown in the trailer also seem to represent each of the games.
Seen fans call it the “Klaus Trilogy,” and that 3 is gonna be the grand finale to that overarching plot line. I’m totally down for that, IF that’s the case. Literally no way to know until we play the game. I admit, it DOES feel like the culmination of the bigger story of Klaus, the created universes, the Alvis/Trinity/Aegis/Monado computer, and the casts of characters that moved these events along. I mean it was hinted at back with “Future Connected” DLC, it’s straight up in the name lol. And now 3 is “Tying the worlds together???” Yeah, this is the finale, I’m joining in on that theory.
You never have to apologize for making long Xeno videos. I have to brush up on my lore for the third game anyways. I have a funny feeling it's going to be the best one yet. Hard to imagine anything better than the first two games. X is pretty decent too.
Not just the Xenoblade, but also other Xeno games' timelines starts with a "conduit." What changes is what the conduit looks like or is labeled - here it is Conduit, in Xenosaga and Xenogears, it's "the Zohar". All the Xeno games are honestly just reworking the same origin story - the "monolith" that drastically alters human technology. Hence "Monolith Soft", the company's name.
@this city is really a city That's a good point. I've always seen Xenoblade Chronicles X as a sort of "pseudo" MMORPG. The Wii U was never powerful enough for one, and this was the closest thing Monolith Soft could probably come up with. That being said, the Lifehold serves as the "monolith" in that game.
Great video, despite having played 1 and 2 twice this cleated up some things I hadn't realised! Also I came here because this video was recommended by another TH-camr called playeressence
Awesome vid, here's some random thoughts: Watching the Orbital ring activate is symbolic of Ouroboros. The Ouroboros plays a heavy part in XC3 as almost every participant of battle (soldiers and mechs) has a "life-clock" fashioned as one. I'm irritated as to how a guldo came in possession of Galea's ID badge. She was in the "womb" of the new universe when things happened, so... how did her ID make it out of that room, off that station, and down to Morthya (Earth?) Did her soul transfer while her body remained and became a guldo? Did a wandering guldo find a spare? It's there for arbitrary plot reasons of "hey, she looks familiar" but the whole thing just doesn't make sense. Then there's Blades. From a franchise perspective, it was awesome how they let all these guest artists go wild and basically make Xenosona, but in-lore, I wish all blades kept the same technoorganic/neo-makina design ascetic. It would be a way less ...creative game, but it would put my mind more at ease if every blade was of that design; or not at all (every blade ever being unique.) However, that gripe made me see a meta parallel between 1 and 2. As with the contrasting forms of life that began in the Zanzaverse, life took contrasting forms on Alrest. The guldo remained as biological abominations, while the etherclouds and core crystals seeded blades. Vaguely, these evolutions of humanity are similar to the lifeforms that Zanza and Mayneth eventually became. Of course, becoming grand titans because they were at ground zero. Lastly, does anyone else think Torna (the titan) has telethia-like features? Namely the wings. The closest XC2 has to a telethia is Amaldus' transformation; in that it features a similar carapace and a row of eyes in the helm. This motif would fit considering that A. Amalthus' conviction was the erasure of mankind, and B. telethia are associated as "endbringers." It seems those destined to "carte blance" mankind take on this form in some fashion. So is it possible that Torna is in some form a telethia? Other than that, the Xenoblade series has me by the balls in terms of lore-presentation. It's like a more digestible Nier.
@@rhettmitchell wait. but wasn't it stated that Torna was the last titan that still birthed blades and thus other Titans? So how could that be that Torna was an "endbringer" if it was the last birthing Titan? Other than the whole thing of no more blades = no more titans = no mo places to live as those around died and fell to the earth under the Eryth Sea. Also with XBC3 coming out I can't wait to see how this timeline will now play out.
I would assume the same thing that happened to Klaus happened to Galea they just got seperated somehow during the even and she ended up down in Morytha totally cut off from Klaus. By the time Klaus began modifying what's left of his body and recreating like she and the remaining survivors desperate to survive had taken core crystals into their bodies horribly mutating into Guldos and losing what remained of their humanity.
Damn, I remember that this video got recommended to me before, but I didn’t realize it was you ^^ Really, really well made video! Definitely a great way to get reminded of all the Lore story-bits. Great watch :)
This Video is Very Underrated more People need see this it opened my eyes to the Lore of the Series it does a good job retelling backstory the of the 2 games in a detailed matter i wonder if XC3 will get one aswell?
We know from xenoblade 3 that the conduit specifically split the Xenoblade universe into two(the 2 we see in xeno 1 and 2) but it's likely that it also linked/ created other universees.
I still think X is a part of 1 and 2. I know its not "YET" cannon. but what if, WHAT IF. X did indeed take place in its own reality, BUT Klaus' activation of the Conduate (Zohar) Caused the event that created the XC1 and XC2 worlds, ALSO crossed over into the X universe and created Mira as well. and that explains how the Mimiosones are still working even though the Spoilers..........................................................................................................................................................Life hold was destroyed!
so with xc3 being now a thing where xc1's and 2's world combining, though shulk probably not creating not a new universe but teleporting the xc1 universe into the xc2 universe using klaus who was partially in both as a preexisting hole in space time to do it without needing specifically to know that there even is such a thing as the xc2 universe, i'm pretty sure that the xc1 universe was just a pocket universe where some amount of ether got blown away out of the xc2 universe creating a new universe which would explain why the xc1 universe is 100% ether while the xc2 one is not and because its a pocket universe with way less matter it makes sense why in that universe is around 10 times faster allowing all of the bionis mechonis war up to thousands years latter the things in xc1 happening in the same time as the stuff from torna the golden country to only hundreds of years letter the things of xc2 happening.
I can't believe that with the context of the Monado being sacred keys that allows users to become Gods and shape the future of their universes, this makes them keyblades.
This video was so helpful before I start playing Xenoblade 3! I'm so curious what other facet of this multiverse the third game could explore, seeing as all three cores, the conduit, and both parts of Klaus's soul have been destroyed -- I have the game I just get back home to my switch on Sunday, so please don't spoil! Anyway, what a cool story that I can't wait to experience!
I have a theory as to why three Monados are present in 1. When Alvis's aegis core was sent to Shulk's world, it was divided into three pieces. One piece went to Zanza and became his Monado, the second piece went to Meyneth and became hers, the third would remain with Alvis and become Shulk's third Monado. Note that they all lack the presence of the aegis core on it. Both the other Aegis swords have the core on them.
I disagree. It is clearly stated by Alvis himself. He IS Monado itself (which means life itself, the creator of the world, the holder of all the power, etc). Alvis is nothing more than a core processor of a computer, along with two others. To use a computer, you simply need access and knowledge of how it works. You give the computer commands, and it uses its power to execute them. Alvis is one of three parts of the computer of the conduit. The weapon “monados” and the conduit “monado” are the exact same thing. Klaus also says in xenoblade 2, “The conduits power is (her) power.” Ontos, Pneuma, and Logos are using the conduit’s, or the “monado”/“Aegis”, power
With the fact that the newly announced Xenoblade 3 being a combined future of Xenoblade 1 & 2, it makes me wonder, "What events caused both universes to merge in some way?" It truly confuses me on this.
Since both games are happening at the roughly the same time, The ending of 2 could have very possibly been the world of xenoblade 1, if by shulk having defeated zanza and transforming their world at the same time rex and crew crossed the rift that landed them and the titans on new continents. Of course, this is all assuming the planet that they live on has been restored, and shulks side of the world may not know that there is in fact "land". Edit: we also have to consider "future connected" here as well, Since it takes place one year after the events of everything else. Maybe it took time for both sides to discover each other? Which is the events that will be told in 3
It’s implied that Shulk and the gang are transported to original earth. Rex and his gang are out there somewhere across the sea. If you recall, Reyn comments that the sea is salty, which wasn’t the case for them in their world.
@@psy8267 See, that is what I'm curious about, is it earth? Or is it a new world alvis created based shulks wish to have no gods and alvis's knowledge of earth before the events of Klaus? We know for a fact that Rex's world is (was?) Earth, or at least the orbital space station is the only remnant of that universe, because there are signs in the hallways that have the letters of what looks like it to say "U.S goverment" right when you leave the elevator and first see the planet and pass the blue security gate I am reading wayyyyyy into this, but it is always fun to speculate! Remember when rex finally met Klaus? At the end of that conversation, he made a remark about finally getting to see mayneth, I think he knew that his universe was nearing it's end.
@@navi8801 Most people I’ve talked to agree that it’s the same Earth Rex is on. It is strange, because that would mean Alvis just moved Shulk to a different world instead of making a whole new one. Maybe Earth (after Rex and company saved the world) fit the description of “a world without gods” where people choose their own futures enough for Alvis to choose that world for Shulk
@@psy8267 You also got to wonder what exactly was running the Xenoblade 1 world in the first place, given it was artificially created. We know it was created by Klaus using the Conduit, indicating the Conduit is the primary source for Xenoblade 1 world's creation, and likely its continuation. So, at the same time as Shulk was defeating Zanza and choosing how to remake the world, the Conduit was disappearing from Alrest, which begs the question of if Shulk or Alvis could have created another world entirely, or even just remodel the current one, given the impending loss of their energy source. The most logical explanation I can think of is that Alvis, instead of making a new world or remaking the Xenoblade 1 world, just erased the construct, possibly including himself, dumping what was left of the Xenoblade 1 world into Xenoblade 2, using the last of the Conduit before it disappeared entirely. It was also probably a fair ways away from Alrest and Elysium, since I think FC would have seen them run into each other had they been geographically close.
I think that the universes from Xenosaga and Xenoblade are connected. Xenosaga begins with a cutscene showing archeologists finding the Conduit (Zohar), and this even is mentioned in Xenoblade. In Xenosaga, they say that earth is no longer a place people can live (refered as Lost Jerusalem) probably because of that same event in which Klauss activates the Conduit. It's also good to mention that Fifth Jerusalem has a structure VERY similar to the Orbital Stations from Xenoblade. There are Space Elevators and an Orbital Ring surrounding it. Man, I wish they make a remake of the Xenosaga Trilogy.
Do the parallel universes of Xenoblade 1 and 2 connect in the birth of a new universe? As it seemed from XB2 ending that all of the Titans and life was brought into that water world shulk created at the end of XB1
Regarding Zanza’s creation of homs, I always interpreted it as a cycle of evolution. Homs simply evolved into an intelligent species by chance but their intelligence prompted Zanza to start the cycle of destruction.
Could one say that maybe the homs is a de-evolved Giant? Since the Giants and the Homs look the most similar? This could be some kind of odd fluke or deliberate dna destruction, created by their own intelligence. They started with this fiddling once they found out one of their own had become an avatar for the god and so, fiddled with their own dna to purposely wreck havoc on it to further limit any chance they could be once more turned into Telethia. And it was only after this happened that the High Entia started the practice of pairing with homs for the sake of diluting the Telethia DNA from the damaged progeny of the Giants to ensure they can't become those horrible beasts again.
After finishing Xenoblade 1 and 2 the way I interpreted the timeline was that Xenoblade 2 happened first, then due to the event of that game it created the world that Xenoblade 1 takes place in…ok now hear me out After part 1 of this video, that being Kalus creating a new universe using the conduit, kalus explains at the end of Xenoblade 2 that he also decided to create the Cloud sea and also mention that titians kept GROWING BIGGER over time. Now these 2 things that Kalus mentioned are extremely important for why I think this is actually one timeline and not parallel universes, but anyways continuing After Rex and friends defeat Malos, Kalus NOW has created the ocean which will replace the cloud sea. Now keep in mind in Xenoblade 1 the ocean is always present because obviously thats where bionis and mechonis are standing, so because of this very simple logic I think Xenoblade 2 is actually before Xenoblade 1 and not in a completely different timeline but if that isn’t enough there’s more The main thing that your probably thinking is that how could we hear Shulk about to finish his battle at the same time that Rex and Malos’s battle is about to conclude. Simple half Kalus is in a different dimension, which dimension is just a fandy word for a different space and or time. So is it that crazy to think that Kalus’s other half just went eons into the future where bionis and mechonis are dead and life has Flourished on top of them and when Shulk is currently having his decisive battle. Please comment if there is anything wrong with this logic or if you agree with or at least see my thought process, I’d love to hear what y’all opinions are
SPOILERS: In the last cutscene of xenoblade 1, it shows the homs being created from Zanza. Unfortunately not evolution because that would have been cool.
@@TheNewHandleThingIsDumb really? I might have to watch that cutscene again. What I am really curious about are the nopon. It's funny how nopon were created in two separate alternate realities
I'm fairly certain that thet said that the homs decended from the Giants. In other words Zanza didn't create them they just evolved from a previous creation of Zanza. This is very similar to how many creature in the prehistoric era were extremely large but then shrank over time into the animals we know today. From what I understand this is mostly to reduce the amount of energy needed to be consumed in order to live. Either way this is likely why Dickson was able to perfectly imitate a homs. Fundamentally they are the same species. He probably just used the powers he gained from Zanza to mimic the evolution the Homs underwent.
Wow…such a great and deep story and really well explained! Love the two parallel universes with the two episodes going on at once. Any idea how they could fit the next sequel in?
Imo there's two possibilities: either they go the route that each game is just another universe Klaus created during the conduit experiment, or the third game is set in the far future of a combined xenoblade 1 and 2 universe. I'd prefer the second option personally
@Is really toasty here I'm not sure, maybe. I think a cool thing they could do with Malos is to make it so that some small amount of his spirit remained inside his monado and that it'll be the weapon the main character uses in xenoblade 3. In this way, in every game of the series, the protag will have wielded the monado of a specific core of the trinity processer (xenoblade 1: Ontos/Alvis, xenoblade 2: pneuma, xenoblade 3: logos
20XX is the 21st century (our current one), not the 20th, which is 19XX centuries from JC start at 1, not 0 therefore, you have to add one the hundreds to get the corresponding century (year 001 AD is the first century)
I’m seeing a lot of people saying that they think Alvis/Ontos entered XC1 after it was created, but I’m confused where this notion came from. Alvis says something along the lines of “I am Monado, I have been here since the beginning and I will persist to the end.” Also the games says he triggered a space time event and I don’t see why that wouldn’t be him either creating XC1’s world or opening a portal to the endless ocean. The end of XC1 shows his ability to create a new world (although I guess it is made of components of the old world as XC3 shows). I’m not really sure it ultimately matters, but I’m just wondering where people get the notion that he was not there at the inception of XC1’s world. Also I wonder where Alvis ends up at the end of XC1. Shulk acts like he disappears after leaving them the world with no need for gods, so I’m wondering if that wish in of itself means that Alvis literally is not allowed in the new world where gods are not needed. Sorry for the ramble. I would love to hear other’s thoughts! Great video!
Small correction the galdos didnt find the core crystals after space time event. they were people that had their brains replaced with them to live longer before the experiment began and then when the experiment happened because they had a core christopheric brain they survived but not as people anymore. the core crystals were originally for that purpose but Klaus repurposed them them. Good vid tho
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LMFAO nice
@@linkalot7415 intro ost?
@@HellFlameGod zanza the divine
@@linkalot7415 THANK U IT TOOK ME YEARS FINALLY IM SUBBING I COULD NOR FIND THE TITLE😭🙏👍
@@HellFlameGod lol, happy to be of help
Seems like the new game is connecting them
Futures Connected, one might say.
Yeah but that they were connected was revealed in 2 I think. At the very end / Credit scene, wasn't it?
I hear the same. I just hope the voice direction is more like 1’s rather than 2’s.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged tbh I didn't mind it in xenoblade 2. It's Was weird at first. I was just weird cause everyone sounded welsh or irish sorry
@@jonofla I just think the way people talked sounded unnatural and badly directed. Rex's actor especially didn't seem to have any idea what the context was for some of the important lines he had to yell or emote for, and that's why you get the infamous Rex scream or "JOIN MEEEEEEEEE"
Interestingly, when XC3 was recently revealed, they also revealed its world's name to be Aionios and that it tells the future of both XC1 and XC2. The cover motive is Uraya again, but stubbed with the Sword of Mechonis.
I thought the Mechonis Sword was destroyed by Zanza's Monado?
@@gamerofgamers1417 It was cut in half, the top half tore Uraya apart when the universes collided and then became embedded in the land known as Swordmarch.
@@gamerofgamers1417 it probably just flew out of the hand of the mechonis once it was destroyed and sunk in the ocean
oh, word?
2:30 For anyone who is curious about what this means and about the full power of the conduit, I'd recommend playing the rest of the Xeno series. Xenogears and Xenosaga (The predecessors to Xenoblade) stories are HEAVILY tied to the conduit (also known as the Zohar) and are also just great games. Much of the confusing descriptions of the conduit were references to those games. They do take place in alternate universes (most likely the ones that Klaus was referring to) but they have A LOT of overlap.
I'd love to play xenogears/saga one day! Thank you for watching!
@@linkalot7415 Yeah ofc, you did a really good job explaining everything!
I'm sorry, but that's just incorrect. "Xenogears" and "Xenosaga" have absolutely nothing to do with the story of "Xenoblade" beyond being a spiritual successor.
If you actual play "Gears" and "Saga", yes, there are some similarities, such as its shape, the fact that they were found in a lake in Africa at an undisclosed point of the 21st century and that it drew initially attention due to its ability to produce infinite energy, but that's where all similarities end.
Once you actually enter the story, their functionalities vary drastically. Namely, neither in "Gears" nor "Saga" the Zohar is a link to any multi-verses. In "Gears", it's the vessel of a god-like entity named the Wave Existence, which keeps it trapped in the realm of the human. While in "Saga" it's literally part of U-DO, the actual God of the "Saga" universe.
Yes, Takahashi likes to reuse concepts to previous works here and there, but he's not trying to remake the story from "Perfect Works". No, not even in a "let's change enough stuff so neither Square nor Namco can sue us" kind of way. That just falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. I know tons of fans of Monolith desperately want all three franchises to be part of the same narrative, but that's just wishful thinking.
@@XanderVJ
(Xenogears/Xenosaga spoilers, obviously)
Firstly, the zohar isn't a vessel in which a god-like entity exists. It is a gateway to a higher alternate dimension where these entities exist. In Gears, the wave existence becomes trapped in this gateway between its dimension and the xenogears dimension. In Xenoblade 2, Klaus says the conduit links to mutliple dimensions including a dimension in which energy is just pouring out of which is how pyra/mythra can use their power. In gears and saga, the zohar connects to a higher dimension in which a god like entity exists which basically serves the same function. Also if you look on the wiki the conduits assets are literally named 'zohar' in the game files. The whole thing with africa was just more proof the conduit and zohar are the same things. In all instances, the zohar/conduit serves as a gateway to other dimensions and an energy source. Just because it isn't stated in gears/saga that the zohar can connect to dimensions other than the one in which the wave existences are in doesn't mean its not possible. I mean I think the evidence is pretty conclusive on this one. In the siren model kit, they also describe the conduit using the same phrases perfect works describes the zohar with, such as MAM (Magenetic Abnormal Matter).
Edit: Further proof, both the conduit and zohar were used to destroy earth by sending parts of it to other realms. They really just serve the same function here in the story. Just because the zohar got a redesign and a new part of its abilities that was explained doesn't mean it isn't the zohar.
@@keelami8688 Yeah, they really went all out and copied and pastied the lore of their previous work in xenosaga XD
Super cool video. Another neat point is that when Shulk is shot by Dickson and dies, he enters a dream like state with Alvis, surrounded by outer space, and is brought back to life by him. Just like Pyra brings Rex back to life after he’s stabbed by Jin, the dream like place both Shulk and Rex enter are places their trinity processor counterparts would have data or memory of, being outer space where Ontos last was seen in the original universe and Elysium in the state it was originally designed to be in.
Even as someone already familiar with Xenoblade's timeline, this is a great video to watch. Very informative, well-structured, and a pleasant voice. I'm subscribing!
Thanks so much!!
@@linkalot7415 what's the name of the ost in the introduction?
@@HellFlameGod Zanza the Divine
Takahashi legitimately made lore that can connect Xenoblade to every other universe known to fiction and somehow did it better than Kingdom Hearts ever could
I actually have a headcanon which suggests that Klaus' expirement not only created the XC1 and XC2 universes (and possibly X's), but created the entire Nintendo multiverse aswell. Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, Fire Emblem, Metroid, etc were all created from that one experiment.
Such a terrible game series, im still upset i spent so much time playing that crap.
@@jackjohnson8305 Why do you feel that way?
@@The_Ninja_Tree Im talking about KH btw not xenoblade.
@@jackjohnson8305 I mean KH3 wasn't terrible gameplay wise. the story was just poorly written or translated I'm not sure but yeah it could get better . Like final fantasy got like waayyyyy better
Couple things:
-21st century. 20XX is the 21st century, not the 20th.
-When Zanza gave the Telethia intelligence, it wasn’t that he “did not intend to do this”. He absolutely did it on purpose. He means it was a mistake in the sense that he believed he had exhibited poor judgement.
Great comment 🎉
We have less than 77 years until Xenoblade is real. 😳
@@corrinflakes9659 Nah, we already live in the 21st century. 2100 would be the 22nd century.
@@olimar3426 Yeah he said less than 77 years. Meaning that we only have *up until* the 22nd century.
I love how you included the Zohar's discovery info as also the information about the Beanstalks mentioned in the Siren's figure box. Thank you for this great video.
This might be the best simplified universal time line I've heard for these games. Thank you so much. :D
Thank you for this :) got quite lost on some bits of the lore, when it started getting so technological, and this was good to get into my head with Xeno 3 just announced
Glad it helped!
@@linkalot7415 can you please help me?
@@HellFlameGod I may be able to
I think the reason the conduit is described as a magnetic material is because it’s clearly inspired by the monolith placed in Africa in 2001: A Space Odyssey. It’s counterpart (or perhaps it’s the same object) later found on the moon is discovered during magnetic surveys which is why the discovery is known as TMA-1, Tycho Magnetic Anomaly 1 (it’s found in the Tycho crater). The conduit is definitely inspired by 2001’s TMA-1.
Well, technically the conduit is inspired by the Zohar from Xenogears and Xenosaga but they’re all the same thing and all inspired by the 2001 monolith. Hell, they named themselves Monolith Soft when they left Square.
I believe that core crystals were originally used as replacements for brain cells, before the conduit had even created a separate universe. Due to their regenerative properties, they caused some of humanity to persist as what are called guldo, when they should have died. They weren't created after the activation of the conduit, but merely repurposed.
Amalthus COULD have more than one blade (Minoth, Haze, etc.), but didn't awaken the second aegis core because they would end up just like malos. That's why Addam, his polar opposite, was tasked with awakening it instead.
I’ve seen so many of these videos in the past few days thanks to the recent announcement. What’s making me so excited is how there’s even callbacks to Xenosaga and Xenogears. I can’t explain how fascinating and exciting and just plain wowed I am by all this! September needs to come sooner.
Its been a while since you posted this video, but I still wanted to leave a comment.
You managed to tell the story of a very complicated series in less than an hour and did an amazing job at it.
There were several plot points that never clicked with me, but thanks to your summary they finally did. Now I can appreciate this series even more.
Thank you
Happy to help - thank you so much for your kind words :) can’t wait to see how the story continues in xenoblade 3
Great! I’m planning to jump in on 3 and knew I needed a proper breakdown ahead of time.
This video needs more views and the channel needs more subscribers. Thank you for making this! Perfect recap to get ready for the new game!!!
Thank you so much!
Excellent video, psyched to find another Xenoblade content creator!
Aw, thank you kind sir!
YOOO watching this to refresh myself to get ready for Xenoblade Chronicles 3!
Awesome to see people watching this video for that purpose!
same
Same.
If it hasn't been pointed out already I have a small correction. It's not that Zanza didn't intend to grant the Telethia intelligence-he did. It was a "mistake" because in hindsight it turned out to be a bad idea.
Great video though
I’ve watched a half dozen videos about this, and this is the first one I felt properly explained the story of the first two games. Thank you
It's mighty interesting that the Conduit is described as a perpetual motion machine. Given what we learned from the XC3 trailer, the world they live in not only is locked in an eternal battle they also seem to be overseen by someone or something called "Ouroboros" -- the snake eating its own tail, a neverending circle. A circle that never stops, like a perpetual machine.
If the Conduit still exists in Aionios, whoever oversees this current world, might still be able to harness its power through the ritual of off-seeing fallen soldiers that we have seen in the trailer and harnessing whatever energy comes from the dead or those who fill their clock-like things on their weapons. Though, a perpetual machine like the Conduit wouldn't exactly need an external energy source.
I really appreciate your video. Especially for the interesting stuff I missed in XC2. Your explanations had good structure making it easy to follow. Keep up the great work!
But didn’t we see the Conduit disappear in both 1 AND 2’s endings? It shouldn’t be in 3’s universe if it is meant to be the unified universe of 1 and 2.
Finally got around to watching this, nice video! Will recommend this to some friends once they've beaten Xenoblade 2
Thank you!
for me, i've played the first game and never had interest in finishing the second (alongside torna) and have been wanting to play the third - so this vid is SUPER good in explaining all of the xc events swiftly, thanks!
Just thought I’d randomly comment on one of my favourite videos about xenoblade in celebration of the XB3 coming out. Now excuse me well i disappear from the internet for the next 100+ hrs to enjoy another entry in this awesome series.
Good stuff all around! Loved listening to this to get a refresher on these timeliness. And now seeing as how Xenoblade Chronicles 3 seems to be merging the two universes together somehow, I'm very interested to see where this all goes down.
I'm subscribing
Thank you!
Given the heavy references to Xenosaga in Future Connected, Klaus' experiment likely opened a portal to what is known in Xenosaga as the imaginary domain, an ethereal world where ether takes on physical shapes, this stands in contrast to the nature of ether in Alrest, which is the real domain, the physical world, where ether is not tangible; this is why ether comes together in the shape of crystals in the Endless Sea, but in Alrest it flows accross the world as an imaterial energy.
Considering the worlds have collided in Xenoblade 3 it is likely ether is no longer crystallizing, and to get pure ether it is necessary to extract it from living beings, which is what I'm betting the offseer song does, and the overall purpose of the war between Keves and Agnus, which, following the parallels with Xenogears, are the new sacrificial lambs, except this time it's probably not some third kingdom doing the harvesting, but rather the ether is being harvested to keep the Fog Beasts at bay, using Shulk's ether field technology, which in Xenosaga was called the Hilbert Effect and was used to defeat the Gnosis.
Personally I don't believe the trinity processor created a new universe just for Klaus and Gelea. I believe activating the conduit did indeed create an entirely new universe thats basically a pocket dimension with half Klaus and Gelea being the only inhabits and basicully turned them into gods. Said activation also pulled Ontos into it and he became the overseer of the world and only him, granting Klaus and Gelea monado's but is neutral. That's how I see it, I believe Ontos came into the xenoblade 1 world either at the same time or VERY shortly after.
Full agreee
The Beginning part of xenesage 1 is the event where they found the zohar, is the same event that happens in xenoblade when they find the conduit.
Fantastic Video. I absoluty love both games, but until now I wasn't completly aware of the fact, that Klaus was already Zanza in XC1 and both games events happens parallel. I'lll definitly replay both game until september. So hyped for XC 3 !!!
Thank you! Im really excited for 3 as well
Thanks for this I suffer from memory problems and struggled to make sense of the overall story as I could not remember everything through these massive games.
However I am a big fan of them and this video has helped me feel more prepared for Xenoblade chronicles 3.
Also from your video it sounds like Xenoblade chronicles X was humans who left earth before Klaus created the portal's maybe as explorers or to escape the battles I never finished Xenoblade chronicles X so I don't know the whole story or even remember much of it I only really remember the world the music and characters also I enjoyed what I played.
Hopefully it will come to the switch.
I agree that XCX must be connected and could be humans from the base universe/planet. Considering they run into mechanical aliens, this could give weight to the interpretation that the alternate universes/worlds already existed - instead of being created - and Klaus’ events merely linked earth/humans to these other places.
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@@yzois lmao
Well you’re not wrong
This comment is very Xenoblade.
@@Alex-lc5dz i disagree.
@@yzois HAH XD Yesss
As a fan of this series I needed this before 3! Cheers mate
Nice job. Can't wait to see how Xenoblade Chronicle 3 fits into all of this.
Thank you very much
GOD THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD MORE PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH THIS!
Thank you so much! Your kind words mean a lot to me
I probably need this tbh, will watch later
I heard a theory once that maybe the hom's were descendents of the giants who traveled to the lower regions of the bionis and eventually evolved to be very small. After all the tomb inside Tephera cave of that one giant is really small for a giants tomb.
The giants were in reference to large humanoid Titans, like Zanza.
However they were also a reference to ancient piloted SKELL armor.
Xenoblade Chronicles takes place like 1000 years after Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Which takes place a couple thousand years after Xenoblade Chronicles X.
The Homs are human, they just forgot about most of their history. Because humanities historical achieves were destroyed in Xenoblade Chronicles X.
@@Slackmana Did you watch the video? Xenoblade 1 and 2 are happening simultaneously, not 1000 years apart.
@@TheNewHandleThingIsDumb I did watch the video, but I don't 100% agree with their perspective.
Xenoblade is based on the premise of humanity starting over, amongst the relics of our once advanced civilization.
There's SO much to say on the subject and I don't want to annoy you with a wall of text. So to keep it short I'll simply say that in Xenoblade 1 zippers exist, and in Xenoblade 2 they haven't evolved beyond buttons.
Also Morag's uniform looks like something a soldier from the 1700's would wear, and Rex's diving suit was also modeled after that era.
Clearly those are indicators that this is supposed to be a different time period.
@@Slackmana it doesn’t matter if xenoblade 2 is less technologically advanced, they are happening at the same time but in different universes. This is made very clear when you here shulks voice in xc2 when klaus dies
@@lama99654 We don't know if both games are happening at the same time...
All we do know is that they exist in different universes/dimensions.
The ambiguity behind why the tech is different is just as mysterious as why we hear Shulk's voice.
Nothing is definitively explained. Our speculation is currently our best resource.
Also I think we hear Shulk's voice, because Shulk is connected to the ultimate cataclysm.
I could be wrong about everything i said, and he could be right.
just saying that i'm gunna keep an open mind until things are definitively explained.
Oh my god so amazingly well explained. Great video sir. Can't wait for XC3!
This video aged well xD A really good summary, so looking forward to a new summary when XC3 comes out ^^
Thank you
Fantastic video my man. Keep it up and I hope to see you grow more and more towards Xenoblade 3's release!
Thank you so much! I actually can't believe this increase in views
@@linkalot7415 Yeah, it's awesome to see haha. Your video just showed up in my recommended a couple days after the Direct and I actually just finished Xeno 1 for the first time a couple weeks ago (I played xeno 2/torna first). I had to give this a watch! You're doing great stuff and I plan to check out a few of your other videos as well. The Hammerfell video looks hella interesting.
KEEP IT UP KING.
The conduit is basically the Zohar, but less complicated lol
Fantastic video mate. I’m caught up a lot more with this all now :)
Great video I really liked your passion for the project. Wishing you the best.
Thank you! I can't express how much your guys' words all mean to Me, this video has been going insane in terms of views
After watching this I’m excited for XC3 because I’m interested to see how it plays out cause it’s supposedly “Ties together the futures of the worlds depicted in XC1 and XC2”. The two sides shown in the trailer also seem to represent each of the games.
As am I!
Seen fans call it the “Klaus Trilogy,” and that 3 is gonna be the grand finale to that overarching plot line. I’m totally down for that, IF that’s the case. Literally no way to know until we play the game.
I admit, it DOES feel like the culmination of the bigger story of Klaus, the created universes, the Alvis/Trinity/Aegis/Monado computer, and the casts of characters that moved these events along. I mean it was hinted at back with “Future Connected” DLC, it’s straight up in the name lol. And now 3 is “Tying the worlds together???” Yeah, this is the finale, I’m joining in on that theory.
Your explanation was incredible!
Thank you so much Mr Quan!
Thank you for this, I needed a good explanation before XC3 released, great video!
You never have to apologize for making long Xeno videos. I have to brush up on my lore for the third game anyways. I have a funny feeling it's going to be the best one yet. Hard to imagine anything better than the first two games. X is pretty decent too.
Not just the Xenoblade, but also other Xeno games' timelines starts with a "conduit." What changes is what the conduit looks like or is labeled - here it is Conduit, in Xenosaga and Xenogears, it's "the Zohar". All the Xeno games are honestly just reworking the same origin story - the "monolith" that drastically alters human technology. Hence "Monolith Soft", the company's name.
@this city is really a city That's a good point. I've always seen Xenoblade Chronicles X as a sort of "pseudo" MMORPG. The Wii U was never powerful enough for one, and this was the closest thing Monolith Soft could probably come up with.
That being said, the Lifehold serves as the "monolith" in that game.
Great video! I was shocked when I saw your sub count. I hope you get the recognition you deserve! This was an awesome summary.
Thanks so much
Alvis says that a new universe was created and that's where they were living at the end of 1, so that's the theory I subscribe to
Great video, despite having played 1 and 2 twice this cleated up some things I hadn't realised! Also I came here because this video was recommended by another TH-camr called playeressence
Wait he recommended by video? WHAT? haha thank you
Do you remember what video it was? Lmao I’m curious now
@@linkalot7415 beginners guide for getting into xenoblade chronicles before xenoblade chronicles 3
Pretty good, not sure I totally agree with all of your conjectures, but all in all well made
Just subscribed, keep up the great Xenoblade content
Thanks!
Starting the video with Zanza the Divine is an instant like
It's funny how nopon evolve into existence in two different timelines
Very nicely explained in a slow and understandable pace ! thanks
the retcon of Alvis as Ontos in the remake is so awesome
13:40 sounds just like when Egil said it, nice reference haha
Awesome vid, here's some random thoughts:
Watching the Orbital ring activate is symbolic of Ouroboros. The Ouroboros plays a heavy part in XC3 as almost every participant of battle (soldiers and mechs) has a "life-clock" fashioned as one.
I'm irritated as to how a guldo came in possession of Galea's ID badge. She was in the "womb" of the new universe when things happened, so... how did her ID make it out of that room, off that station, and down to Morthya (Earth?) Did her soul transfer while her body remained and became a guldo? Did a wandering guldo find a spare? It's there for arbitrary plot reasons of "hey, she looks familiar" but the whole thing just doesn't make sense.
Then there's Blades. From a franchise perspective, it was awesome how they let all these guest artists go wild and basically make Xenosona, but in-lore, I wish all blades kept the same technoorganic/neo-makina design ascetic. It would be a way less ...creative game, but it would put my mind more at ease if every blade was of that design; or not at all (every blade ever being unique.)
However, that gripe made me see a meta parallel between 1 and 2. As with the contrasting forms of life that began in the Zanzaverse, life took contrasting forms on Alrest. The guldo remained as biological abominations, while the etherclouds and core crystals seeded blades. Vaguely, these evolutions of humanity are similar to the lifeforms that Zanza and Mayneth eventually became. Of course, becoming grand titans because they were at ground zero.
Lastly, does anyone else think Torna (the titan) has telethia-like features? Namely the wings. The closest XC2 has to a telethia is Amaldus' transformation; in that it features a similar carapace and a row of eyes in the helm. This motif would fit considering that A. Amalthus' conviction was the erasure of mankind, and B. telethia are associated as "endbringers." It seems those destined to "carte blance" mankind take on this form in some fashion. So is it possible that Torna is in some form a telethia?
Other than that, the Xenoblade series has me by the balls in terms of lore-presentation. It's like a more digestible Nier.
Thanks bro! Those are some very in-depth thoughts... Nice ideas!
The Torna theory is super interesting, but I think it dies too early before we really find out much about it in that way lol
@@rhettmitchell wait. but wasn't it stated that Torna was the last titan that still birthed blades and thus other Titans? So how could that be that Torna was an "endbringer" if it was the last birthing Titan?
Other than the whole thing of no more blades = no more titans = no mo places to live as those around died and fell to the earth under the Eryth Sea.
Also with XBC3 coming out I can't wait to see how this timeline will now play out.
I would assume the same thing that happened to Klaus happened to Galea they just got seperated somehow during the even and she ended up down in Morytha totally cut off from Klaus. By the time Klaus began modifying what's left of his body and recreating like she and the remaining survivors desperate to survive had taken core crystals into their bodies horribly mutating into Guldos and losing what remained of their humanity.
The work that you have done... Thank you 🙏
Damn, I remember that this video got recommended to me before, but I didn’t realize it was you ^^ Really, really well made video! Definitely a great way to get reminded of all the Lore story-bits. Great watch :)
Thank you!
This Video is Very Underrated more People need see this it opened my eyes to the Lore of the Series
it does a good job retelling backstory the of the 2 games in a detailed matter i wonder if XC3 will get one aswell?
We know from xenoblade 3 that the conduit specifically split the Xenoblade universe into two(the 2 we see in xeno 1 and 2) but it's likely that it also linked/ created other universees.
That was very interesting & helpful! Thank you, Sir! 👍
I still think X is a part of 1 and 2. I know its not "YET" cannon. but what if, WHAT IF. X did indeed take place in its own reality, BUT Klaus' activation of the Conduate (Zohar) Caused the event that created the XC1 and XC2 worlds, ALSO crossed over into the X universe and created Mira as well. and that explains how the Mimiosones are still working even though the Spoilers..........................................................................................................................................................Life hold was destroyed!
Yeah.
so with xc3 being now a thing where xc1's and 2's world combining, though shulk probably not creating not a new universe but teleporting the xc1 universe into the xc2 universe using klaus who was partially in both as a preexisting hole in space time to do it without needing specifically to know that there even is such a thing as the xc2 universe, i'm pretty sure that the xc1 universe was just a pocket universe where some amount of ether got blown away out of the xc2 universe creating a new universe which would explain why the xc1 universe is 100% ether while the xc2 one is not and because its a pocket universe with way less matter it makes sense why in that universe is around 10 times faster allowing all of the bionis mechonis war up to thousands years latter the things in xc1 happening in the same time as the stuff from torna the golden country to only hundreds of years letter the things of xc2 happening.
The fact that a British guy narratives this is so Xenoblade-y !
Lmao
20XX AD is sometimes in the 21st century lol.
Great video otherwise xc3 hype
And Xenoblade Chronicles 3 will finally answer, what life without Gods will be like.
Surviving to life, living to survive
Very poetic! And true.
I can't believe that with the context of the Monado being sacred keys that allows users to become Gods and shape the future of their universes, this makes them keyblades.
This was awesome. 10/10 Ty so much
Thank you for your kind words 😊
This video was so helpful before I start playing Xenoblade 3! I'm so curious what other facet of this multiverse the third game could explore, seeing as all three cores, the conduit, and both parts of Klaus's soul have been destroyed -- I have the game I just get back home to my switch on Sunday, so please don't spoil! Anyway, what a cool story that I can't wait to experience!
Going to have to refresh that timeline now that a new game is in the works.
I have a theory as to why three Monados are present in 1. When Alvis's aegis core was sent to Shulk's world, it was divided into three pieces. One piece went to Zanza and became his Monado, the second piece went to Meyneth and became hers, the third would remain with Alvis and become Shulk's third Monado. Note that they all lack the presence of the aegis core on it. Both the other Aegis swords have the core on them.
I disagree. It is clearly stated by Alvis himself. He IS Monado itself (which means life itself, the creator of the world, the holder of all the power, etc). Alvis is nothing more than a core processor of a computer, along with two others. To use a computer, you simply need access and knowledge of how it works. You give the computer commands, and it uses its power to execute them. Alvis is one of three parts of the computer of the conduit. The weapon “monados” and the conduit “monado” are the exact same thing. Klaus also says in xenoblade 2, “The conduits power is (her) power.” Ontos, Pneuma, and Logos are using the conduit’s, or the “monado”/“Aegis”, power
With the fact that the newly announced Xenoblade 3 being a combined future of Xenoblade 1 & 2, it makes me wonder, "What events caused both universes to merge in some way?" It truly confuses me on this.
Since both games are happening at the roughly the same time, The ending of 2 could have very possibly been the world of xenoblade 1, if by shulk having defeated zanza and transforming their world at the same time rex and crew crossed the rift that landed them and the titans on new continents.
Of course, this is all assuming the planet that they live on has been restored, and shulks side of the world may not know that there is in fact "land".
Edit: we also have to consider "future connected" here as well, Since it takes place one year after the events of everything else. Maybe it took time for both sides to discover each other? Which is the events that will be told in 3
It’s implied that Shulk and the gang are transported to original earth. Rex and his gang are out there somewhere across the sea. If you recall, Reyn comments that the sea is salty, which wasn’t the case for them in their world.
@@psy8267 See, that is what I'm curious about, is it earth? Or is it a new world alvis created based shulks wish to have no gods and alvis's knowledge of earth before the events of Klaus? We know for a fact that Rex's world is (was?) Earth, or at least the orbital space station is the only remnant of that universe, because there are signs in the hallways that have the letters of what looks like it to say "U.S goverment" right when you leave the elevator and first see the planet and pass the blue security gate
I am reading wayyyyyy into this, but it is always fun to speculate!
Remember when rex finally met Klaus? At the end of that conversation, he made a remark about finally getting to see mayneth, I think he knew that his universe was nearing it's end.
@@navi8801 Most people I’ve talked to agree that it’s the same Earth Rex is on. It is strange, because that would mean Alvis just moved Shulk to a different world instead of making a whole new one. Maybe Earth (after Rex and company saved the world) fit the description of “a world without gods” where people choose their own futures enough for Alvis to choose that world for Shulk
@@psy8267 You also got to wonder what exactly was running the Xenoblade 1 world in the first place, given it was artificially created. We know it was created by Klaus using the Conduit, indicating the Conduit is the primary source for Xenoblade 1 world's creation, and likely its continuation.
So, at the same time as Shulk was defeating Zanza and choosing how to remake the world, the Conduit was disappearing from Alrest, which begs the question of if Shulk or Alvis could have created another world entirely, or even just remodel the current one, given the impending loss of their energy source.
The most logical explanation I can think of is that Alvis, instead of making a new world or remaking the Xenoblade 1 world, just erased the construct, possibly including himself, dumping what was left of the Xenoblade 1 world into Xenoblade 2, using the last of the Conduit before it disappeared entirely.
It was also probably a fair ways away from Alrest and Elysium, since I think FC would have seen them run into each other had they been geographically close.
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X1 Klaus: Yo being a God is great, yo!
X2 Klaus: *Existence is an infinite merry go round of pain and suffering-*
well one is an asshole god the other a regretful human
I think the homs are decedents from the giants.
Aaaah, the Xenoblade.
"Twentieth century" You mean twenty-FIRST century.
Ty, I am never going to finish Xenoblade 2 so this helps lol
I think that the universes from Xenosaga and Xenoblade are connected. Xenosaga begins with a cutscene showing archeologists finding the Conduit (Zohar), and this even is mentioned in Xenoblade.
In Xenosaga, they say that earth is no longer a place people can live (refered as Lost Jerusalem) probably because of that same event in which Klauss activates the Conduit.
It's also good to mention that Fifth Jerusalem has a structure VERY similar to the Orbital Stations from Xenoblade. There are Space Elevators and an Orbital Ring surrounding it.
Man, I wish they make a remake of the Xenosaga Trilogy.
I find the lack of X in this video disturbing😂 Love seeing the Xenoblade love though!
Thanks! Also I really couldn't have included X, it's not connected to the other games
Do the parallel universes of Xenoblade 1 and 2 connect in the birth of a new universe? As it seemed from XB2 ending that all of the Titans and life was brought into that water world shulk created at the end of XB1
It's not confirmed, but many people speculate that, me included
Guess the third game confirms that now
This is really really good. Im excited for XC3
Thank you!
Regarding Zanza’s creation of homs, I always interpreted it as a cycle of evolution. Homs simply evolved into an intelligent species by chance but their intelligence prompted Zanza to start the cycle of destruction.
So, both his halves had them develop naturally. Once a scientist, always a scientist, I guess.
Could one say that maybe the homs is a de-evolved Giant? Since the Giants and the Homs look the most similar? This could be some kind of odd fluke or deliberate dna destruction, created by their own intelligence. They started with this fiddling once they found out one of their own had become an avatar for the god and so, fiddled with their own dna to purposely wreck havoc on it to further limit any chance they could be once more turned into Telethia. And it was only after this happened that the High Entia started the practice of pairing with homs for the sake of diluting the Telethia DNA from the damaged progeny of the Giants to ensure they can't become those horrible beasts again.
After finishing Xenoblade 1 and 2 the way I interpreted the timeline was that Xenoblade 2 happened first, then due to the event of that game it created the world that Xenoblade 1 takes place in…ok now hear me out
After part 1 of this video, that being Kalus creating a new universe using the conduit, kalus explains at the end of Xenoblade 2 that he also decided to create the Cloud sea and also mention that titians kept GROWING BIGGER over time.
Now these 2 things that Kalus mentioned are extremely important for why I think this is actually one timeline and not parallel universes, but anyways continuing
After Rex and friends defeat Malos, Kalus NOW has created the ocean which will replace the cloud sea. Now keep in mind in Xenoblade 1 the ocean is always present because obviously thats where bionis and mechonis are standing, so because of this very simple logic I think Xenoblade 2 is actually before Xenoblade 1 and not in a completely different timeline but if that isn’t enough there’s more
The main thing that your probably thinking is that how could we hear Shulk about to finish his battle at the same time that Rex and Malos’s battle is about to conclude. Simple half Kalus is in a different dimension, which dimension is just a fandy word for a different space and or time. So is it that crazy to think that Kalus’s other half just went eons into the future where bionis and mechonis are dead and life has Flourished on top of them and when Shulk is currently having his decisive battle.
Please comment if there is anything wrong with this logic or if you agree with or at least see my thought process, I’d love to hear what y’all opinions are
I like to think Homs evolved from the giants over time, as Arglas was hardly the only giant, and it isn’t stated that they were all killed.
SPOILERS:
In the last cutscene of xenoblade 1, it shows the homs being created from Zanza. Unfortunately not evolution because that would have been cool.
@@TheNewHandleThingIsDumb really? I might have to watch that cutscene again.
What I am really curious about are the nopon. It's funny how nopon were created in two separate alternate realities
the monado/key analogy makes alvis having a key choker in the original xc1 make more sense haha
2:12 that's the 21st century, actually
I'm fairly certain that thet said that the homs decended from the Giants. In other words Zanza didn't create them they just evolved from a previous creation of Zanza. This is very similar to how many creature in the prehistoric era were extremely large but then shrank over time into the animals we know today. From what I understand this is mostly to reduce the amount of energy needed to be consumed in order to live. Either way this is likely why Dickson was able to perfectly imitate a homs. Fundamentally they are the same species. He probably just used the powers he gained from Zanza to mimic the evolution the Homs underwent.
The Shimmering Forte only exists in one time-line.
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thanks so much! your videos are pretty great too :)
@@linkalot7415 Ayye! I'm just glad that I'm able to contribute to the community
God these games are so good
It's not hard to assume that war shown at endings of Xenoblade 1 and 2 is the same war at the beginning of Xenoblade X
Wow…such a great and deep story and really well explained! Love the two parallel universes with the two episodes going on at once. Any idea how they could fit the next sequel in?
Imo there's two possibilities: either they go the route that each game is just another universe Klaus created during the conduit experiment, or the third game is set in the far future of a combined xenoblade 1 and 2 universe. I'd prefer the second option personally
@Is really toasty here I'm not sure, maybe. I think a cool thing they could do with Malos is to make it so that some small amount of his spirit remained inside his monado and that it'll be the weapon the main character uses in xenoblade 3. In this way, in every game of the series, the protag will have wielded the monado of a specific core of the trinity processer (xenoblade 1: Ontos/Alvis, xenoblade 2: pneuma, xenoblade 3: logos
@Is really toasty here I don't think Jin is coming back... He's dead bro, sorry
Check out XenoSaga and XenoGears
20XX is the 21st century (our current one), not the 20th, which is 19XX
centuries from JC start at 1, not 0 therefore, you have to add one the hundreds to get the corresponding century
(year 001 AD is the first century)
I believe you
I’m seeing a lot of people saying that they think Alvis/Ontos entered XC1 after it was created, but I’m confused where this notion came from. Alvis says something along the lines of “I am Monado, I have been here since the beginning and I will persist to the end.” Also the games says he triggered a space time event and I don’t see why that wouldn’t be him either creating XC1’s world or opening a portal to the endless ocean.
The end of XC1 shows his ability to create a new world (although I guess it is made of components of the old world as XC3 shows).
I’m not really sure it ultimately matters, but I’m just wondering where people get the notion that he was not there at the inception of XC1’s world.
Also I wonder where Alvis ends up at the end of XC1. Shulk acts like he disappears after leaving them the world with no need for gods, so I’m wondering if that wish in of itself means that Alvis literally is not allowed in the new world where gods are not needed.
Sorry for the ramble. I would love to hear other’s thoughts! Great video!
Small correction the galdos didnt find the core crystals after space time event. they were people that had their brains replaced with them to live longer before the experiment began and then when the experiment happened because they had a core christopheric brain they survived but not as people anymore. the core crystals were originally for that purpose but Klaus repurposed them them. Good vid tho