Is Mahomes more of a game manager than Purdy, do not bail on Lamar Jackson yet | NFL | THE HERD
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- FOXSports.com dives into the game manager label and breaks down why Patrick Mahomes is more of one than Brock Purdy. Colin Cowherd dives into the discussion and explains why the QBs' assignments cannot be compared. Lamar Jackson won his second regular season MVP, his second in six seasons. Watch as Colin explains why he is not bailing on Lamar just yet.
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Is Mahomes more of a game manager than Purdy, do not bail on Lamar Jackson yet | NFL | THE HERD
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NFL fans are hilarious acting like young QBs such as Josh and Lamar “can’t win the Super Bowl” when most QBs in history don’t even get their until they are in their 30s….Patrick Mahomes has spoiled people. Peyton Manning at Lamar’s age had a 3-6 playoff record and lost to Brady 20-3 in the divisional round…
Brady also spoiled everyone. Now you need multiple SBs to be great. I think everyone expected Rodgers to get back and win at least two chips. He's never getting back.
Manning was and is still overrated. More hype than production. Plus the defense absolutely carried him to a second ring, it had nothing to do with him.
@elmerbeltshire7599 Okay buddy, you go out and put up the same stats 😂
@@elmerbeltshire7599how can you say a 7 time first team AP is overrated? That’s a tough argument to make. Sure, Brady was Superman in the clutch but to say Peyton was overrated is quite harsh.
Brady was a full time winner
When you're already comparing a 2nd year QB (Purdy) to patrick Mahomes (Baby-GOAT) well, purdy already won. lmao
I’m pretty sure the comparison is because they’re playing each other Sunday lol
And when Purdy loses, the comparison will go away all together
@@KevinWatson-ns7fi I’m sure you would love that 😂 don’t hold your breath
Exactly Rinn
49ers fans logic. Just showing up and being in the conversation is a W. That’s why they haven’t won a SB in 30 years lol
Lamar v Mahomes reminds me of Payton and Brady. It took a long time for Payton to break through.
It took Peyton 8 years but people forgot that
Exactly...I saw their respective records at the same point in their careers and Lamar and Peyton look eerily similar.
Isn’t it funny how everyone gets the benefit of the doubt, everyone gets excuses except the guy playing mahomes in the Super Bowl 😂
If Dan Campbell could coach at a level above high school,the conversation at the moment would be about who the niners are going to play at QB next year.Its a fickle game.
@@spinmyhead1667purdy already won the qb job. In his rookie year he led the niners all the way to the nfc game and got hurt. He rehabbed and brought them to the bowl the following year. His job is secured. And I would say Dan is much better than a high school coach hence why the lions went that far in the season. Got to give the niners props for winning
@@jwhite5602I agree Brock can be good but he’s still not there individually imo. That lions game was a choke job but you can’t blame the other team for taking advantage of that. Brock did but it wasn’t him carrying its other players too and that’s why he don’t get props
@@HomerunsamSOSA still not there? Ok I guess getting your team that far in consecutive years as soon as you enter the league isn't enough. Or even setting the niners oassing record his second year isn't enough. Or leading in multiple qb statistics wasn't enough either. Smh
How about mentioning that Brock purdy is also a pro bowler Collin!!
Why does he keep moving the goalpost to slam Brock 😂😂😂 wether it’s Brock or Mahomes, being a game manager is NOT a bad thing idc what cam Newton says
What goal post did he move? He’s been consistent on Brock all year he’s not elite. Sure his stats can be argued but if you watch the games Patrick, Josh, and Lamar.. the team goes as they do. Purdy is a middle tier QB being elevated by his teammates. Go watch Dak year one and two highlights. We have seen this before…
@@milliworkz7069 Lamar was carried by his defense.
Who cares with that bum Cam Newton says
@@milliworkz7069so if that’s the case you and everyone else should not blame Brock for when the 49ers lost this season “he’s being carried by his teammates” but then it’s “purdy sucks and deserves all the blame for when they lose” y’all don’t make sense and yes the posts have been moved…..first it was can he win from behind? Then he does it and receives no credit
@@MrRocket100 actually when they lost games is when they had a depleted roster on offense and Brock couldn't elevate the team? Had a few bad games calling him middle tier isn't an insult? Matt Ryan is middle tier won an MVP and choked a Superbowl with Kyle. 🤷
Mitchell was RT. Eric Fischer was LT.
It doesn’t matter if someone is a “game manager” or not. Just win. End of story.
The Chiefs are winning because of their defense but nobody talks about that.
Literally everyone talks about that. You’d have to live under a rock to think nobody talks about that my guy.
whatever you say, car bro.@@applesauze9189
Social media has trained us to think the exception is the rule, and anyone who isn’t the exception is a failure. It’s especially crazy how early we write ppl off smh.
So true, now if a QB doesn't win or get to the SB then it's a failure of a season...it's ridiculous
jordan love lit up KCs defense. the real MVP
Purdy laughed
This is the dumbest take I’ve ever heard 😂😂😂😂😂
If you're up two scores, I want a game manager who plays mistake free football. Mahomes did what was needed to win against the Ravens in the second half.
I don’t get why we are raising Mahomes for getting shut out in the 2nd half…he was doing what he could with a bad offense, but the chiefs offense was still not good. Mahomes wasn’t going 3 and out 3 times on purpose…they couldn’t move the ball on Baltimore. Chiefs defense played great, but their offense kinda got carried.
Chiefs Defense has held the best offenses in check in the playoffs. Its been amazing.
6 rush attempts from RB room though is totally a Ravens imploding thing than anything. It’s absolutely bizarre to do that for the #1 rush team. Extremely suss. Bills ran almost 200 yards the game before and Ravens were like no 😑
@@honey_seeker2353that’s why people can’t convince others this league rigged or the elites putting gag orders on these teams, players and organizations…. There’s no way Baltimore wet the bed like that
Schwartz was not the Chiefs Left Tackle and he never was. He was always the right tackle.
To avoid giving purdy credit we now have to talk about the weapons as the best OF ALL TIME and include lineman as weapons.
No other qb gets this treatment.
Purdy has a terrible o line in pass protection literally ranked 26th😂😂 almost every qb in the nfl has a better linr
@@SoloDoloToker the hate is insane also since when is George kittle a hofer lol
Mahomes can play anyway you want him, he can be a pocket passer, he can be a game manager, he can even run a zone read QB run first style offense. He can literally run any offense which it’s why all of a sudden in the superbowl he stopped passing as much and started pulling the ball and running
Mahomes doesn't need to prove anything to anyone. Just keep playing smart football, deep balls when available, short passes, scrambles, whatever it takes. Just win.
Babysitter comment during game manager explanation @ 2:00 minutes - "Don't call us unless the house is on fire. 🔥😂. Mahomes is running around like a chicken with his head cut off and his hair is on fire. 🔥😂
Hey!! Lets all make up semantic terms and argue their meanings.
I think they meant Mahomes has also been a better game manager in addition to being the driver whereas Purdy has only been a manager so even Mahomes has done a better job at the only thing purdy has done
So it's a good thing when Allen, Herbert, and Lamar all get help from elite talent and good coaches, but it's not a good thing when Brock has it.
Brock is the only QB who has to play 1 v 11 football for some reason
Patrick Mahomes is an unbelievable talent that has dominated the league for years with one of the best coaches in NFL history. It's not surprising that with their experience together and a dominant defense they're in the SB. It is surprising that a second year 7th rounder who has accounted for 78% of his teams offense in the playoffs is. Of course the talent helps but Jimmy and Trey weren't doing what Brock is with the same talent. I hope Purdy balls out and makes everyone eat everything they've said.
My question is, if the quarterbacks switched teams, which would perform better?
Skyy Moore had a big game in the last SB and he's taking Toney's place coming off the IR today. Look for him to play a bigger role than folks are anticipating.
I see the Niner D containing the Great Mahomes while Purdy's MVP performance captures the 49er's 6th Super Bowl Victory. Tight game with a Niner win.
49ers - 27
Chiefs - 20
Purdy - MVP
U mean the team that barely beat 8-8 Green Bay?
Goodfellas is to TJ as Dances with Wolves is to Garret
This year is Maholmes' best because of how he's managed the playoff games this year. The Chiefs experienced some heart breaking losses in the regular season that saw Patrick yelling and throwing a fit on the sidelines. Yet when the playoffs rolled around , the Chiefs are the team to beat. This is the year that Maholmes cements himself as the number 2 QB of all time. Next year, he has a chance to three peat. When he does that, Pat has an argument that he's surpassed Brady as number one. He's so much better than any other QB that's playing right now, it's not even funny.
Yes he is
game manager is 2024's version of "elite" for talking heads to overuse
It’s “ Uncle Colin” now? Smh stop trying to steal Shannon’s swag 👎🏽
Colin's Lamar take was excellent.
It was horrible
He totally ignored the other 3 playoff losses of his career and failed to understand one of Lamar’s playoff wins he threw 170
Yards and 0 TDs and 1 int
I agree with your assessment of Lamar Jackson, but Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, and Jalen Hurts have not won a super bowl championship. Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady are literally roadblocks and Gatekeepers from any quarterback winning a super bowl. I agree with Mr. Cowherd that we as fans and media are spoiled. @haydenfisher7387
@@haydenfisher7387he also had over 100+ rushing yds in that game
The guy who didn't come close to deserving mvp bc he wasn't top 5 in any qb stat?? Purdy had the same number of pass attempts and had MASSIVELY better numbers Lamar also has a way way way better I line 😂😂
What’s the point arguing that someone is a game manager. “Go 49ers “
So much for that best qeapons of all as colin said.
First ballor kittle with his 6k career yards - 4 yards in this game
Trent with a bunch of penalties.
Deebo separated as much as lizzo from a donut
And cmc with a bad fumble
Colin you’re consistently wrong. *Le Sigh*
Its on Mahomes to win the game, its on Purdy not to lose it
Wow, Colin is rock solid. But, I caution everyone that CJ Stroud is out there lurking.
Mahomes and purdy yes they are i ln the Superbowl in the same year..but man they are so different am tired of pipo trying to kinda fail purdy..he has done great in the position put yes the offense fire power is There but u have to deliver the ball..but man mahomes is in a different world...we putting his name in conversations with peyton..brady..after 6 years as a starter ..
Wow he sounds like he's comparing Lebron using excuses to Jordan like he was loaded with weapons.
Dude- Are you saying Mahomes calls all these dink and dunk plays? This is all due to Mahomes. While Purdy gets all the plays from Shanahan. Mahomes get the credit if and when the offense does well and Shanahan get all the credit when the niner offense do well. Do you ever think about what you are saying or you just open your mouth and let it rip?
Aw someone is triggered 😢
The problem with these terms is the definition. What is an MVP or game manager? It changes depending on the agenda uoure pushing or narrative you're creating.
Nonsense debates because the definition is not defined
NFL MVP is an Associated Press Award where 50 of their Sports Journalists vote & whoever has the most votes wins.
All of these shows just regurgitate the same topics. Shyt is crazy.
If Mahomes played for SF they woulda been undefeated this year honestly
So your argument is that Brock Purdy isn't Patrick Mahomes? LOL 🤡
@@bigaesswangmane7804 I painted your mom’s face also. Guess that makes 2 of us 😌
Nope, with the Niners awful o-line (outside of Williams) Mahomes would have been on his back all season. Purdy is much better navigating in the pocket.
@@elmerbeltshire7599 you cannot be serious fam. Purdy is better in the pocket than Mahomes lmao?
Absolutely, does a much better job at escaping pressure and creating opportunities. Watch the tape.@@sleazytooez2313
I think it was Shannon Sharpe who said that if everyone won a championship it would be devalued.
They just making up a stupid headline.....if you take a poll on who you want as a QB in any game with your money on the line and unless its rigged, 99.9% will take Mahomes and that .01 will be purdy relatives and they will be nervous
Stopped this video the second he referenced PFF rankings.
Even if Purdy plays a good game and wins it, he still won't get the credit he deserves. It's amazing how labels can distort perceptions. If Mahomes loses this one, he'll be level with Peyton Manning at four SB appearances and two rings. It might not be fair, but the numbers would match.
Don’t overlook his wheels. Mahomes running killed the Ravens and Niners.
KC’s defense has got them to the superbowl not Mahomes .
Then again hes still not a game manager considering all the other sbs came off of mahomes back
And the refs 😂
I'm excited for the Super Bowl to be over so sports shows can talk about something else again. I'm so over Cheifs and Niners content.
Mahomes gets 61% of his yards from yac....purdys gets 48% from yac.... YEA Purdys not a game manager
Mahomes has an offensive genius as a head coach. Reid was taking teams deep into the playoffs long before Mahomes.
Mahomes gets carried by his defense, running game, and screen plays and he’s “an elite game manager”. Purdy leads back to back second half comebacks and is a crippling game manager… makes sense 👍🏼
Colin's logic is making less and less sense.
O-line is more than one player. So why doesnt he rate KCs Oline vs SF, oh because KC is probably better top to bottom.
Lamar not running that game is fishy to me. 🤷🏽♂️. Im just saying.
OMG Colin accept that Lamar is like Dak and Kirk and he'll never be a champion.
Colin, just admit you've never seen a 49er game. It's fine.
But I really wish the niners were the team that the national media swears they are - stacked roster carrying a bum QB with a great defense as a safety net. B/c then the niners' super bowl chances wouldn't be completely dependent on how Brock plays
Ronaldo would be the best living footballer if Lionel Messi wasn't around.
As a Bengals fan I will 100% take Bengals making to the Super Bowl after Burrow was sacked 70 times during that season over Burrow having had 2 MVPs, but no SB appearances. In my book Bengals/Burrow run to the Super Bowl is more impressive than Lamar being QB/RB (he's amazing at what he does, don't get me wrong) and melting down in the playoffs every single time. TLDR; MVPs are worthless without success in the playoffs.
you could say success in the playoffs don’t mean much if you don’t win it all for some teams. i bet bills fans would agree.
@@xavierholland7519 All that matter in the end is the SB win ofc. But personally I preferred seeing Bengals in the SB after beating KC in overtime if the other option is Burrow reg season MVP and wild card or divisional round exit. If someone rather wants to see their QB win reg season MVPs and no playoff success, that's fine.
george kittle first ballet is the stupidest thing i’ve heard this year. he’s not gonna sniff the hof.
*ballot (ballet is a form of dance)
@@jenniferaceste8823 autocorrect lmao my b
That Lamar Jackson bit was so cringe. So many excuses
Kittle is a not a first ballot HOF
I’m done listening to Colin I believe, his takes have been sensationalistic as opposed to a genuine dive into the numbers or play of the individuals. There are valid criticisms to be made of Purdys game, I just find Colin’s continued omission of evidence against his narrative to be glaring.
once lamar starts losing steps he wont be able to be elite anymore.
So the other QBs are ungame managers
Colin
Baltimore is one of the best run organisations in football and Lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs. Pulling out one loss and making excuses doesn’t cover the other 3 losses. One of his wins he threw 170 yards 0 TDs and an INT. He is a regular season QB at best.
Getting desperate for topics
like sheesh colin don't forget to zip him up and wipe ur mouth when ur done
Hes not wrong tho…
Between him and Nick Wright, I'd be surprised if Brittany gets a turn with her husband at all.
Stats are stats buddy. Cry about it with your HORRIBLE TAKES.
Lamar is a choke artist so far. It's okay to say tell the truth. You treat him with kid gloves.
Leonardo DiCaprio is not a good actor. He’s another child star who’s a bad adult actor.
It's a 100% guarantee the chiefs win the Taylor swift bowl the NFL will make sure of it so bet the chiefs if you want money
Lamar is a stinker
Mahomes led the league in YAC 😂 SHUT UP COLIN
MAHOMES MORE DUMP OFFS THQN PURDY
Mahomes plays the way people think Brock plays.
Brock isn't a game manager, he's a daredevil, and watching him throw can be hair-raising at times
Rankings in passes 20+ yards? Purdy 1st. Rank in passes 30+ yards? Purdy 1st. Rank in passes 40+ yards? Purdy 1st. Purdy is elite, Mahomes is captain checkdown who benefits from having the best coach in the NFL.
@@elmerbeltshire7599agree 100%. Mahomes was in full captain checkdown mode in the AFC title game.
Let's call it what it is: people think Brock is a checkdown king b/c he looks like an unathletic white QB and he was picked last.
If it was Trey Lance making these plays, he'd be called one of the most electrifying players in the league
The 49ers and Rock Nerdy look good because they are in a tomato can conference with just one decent team, three ok teams and the rest garbage so can run up useless stats. KC has to beat hard core teams in every AFC division. Even the AFC worst is better than your NFC #2 seed. Nerdy and the 49ers are over-hyped and will be demolished.
Mahomes plays in the AFC West lol@@JonDavis4678
Lamar will never win a SB. He is not a complete QB. Cant read defense, running around like a chicken.
Tell me you know nothing about the game or the player. I'll take Tom Brady's word over yours about Lamar Jackson. 😂😂😂
If a QB can win 75% of their games and score 28 PPG without knowing how to read a defense, why don’t other teams copy that blueprint to at least have regular season success?
The question isn’t who’s better Mahomes or Purdy, the question is if Mahomes is the best ever then why can’t he do what Brady did.
In the 20 some odd years of his career other than a few years with Moss tell me about the fantastic receivers Brady had.
When did you make excuses for Brady?
The goal post moving for mahomo is insane
Colin stop slurping Mahomes
THE REFS WIN GAMES FOR KC 😮😊😊😮
TLDW: Mahomes elevates his terrible team. Purdy is elevated by his good team. What a terrible take! Purdy played better than EVERY OTHER QB in the league this year. His OWN TEAMMATES are saying that Purdy is elevating them! Wake up, Cowherd. Eyes don't lie.
Looking at the titles of every Fos sports video of late, it's clear that they're just using Mahomes name in every single segment in order to get clicks. Go look back at every clip from the past week from either these guys, First things, and/or Speak. They've literally had a company meeting and said "these idiots will watch anything we attach Mahomes' name too, so use it until it no longer has meaning."
Lamar is still the best QB in the league
Kansas City only beat the Ravens because of the referees look how many Calls They didn't CALL. Kansas City NEEDS THE referees on THERE SIDE TO WIN, LIKE ALWAYS
Thank Zay Flowers for taunting & getting the ball punched out. Thank all your DL'S for committing VERY obvious penalties. Thank VanNoy for not blocking Travis Kelce! GTFOH!
Andy Reid is TRASH, so is possible 1st ballot HOF Travis Kelce. They obviously don't help Patrick at all "according to Colin",.The Chiefs also don't have a good running back or a defence worth a damn. All this of course is utter BS, Patrick is obviously the benchmark player in the league at the moment but you can't ignore the other strengths the team has got!
Brock has led the league in many catagories this season one of them isn't his teammates YAC numbers that is Patrick along with a 4.2 YPA PM to 7.1 YPA BP. Air YPA PM=6.5 BP=8.2. Total team pass YAC% PM=63% BP=50%. Brock is for the most part very accurate, throws with great antisipation and this is coming from analysis from JT O'Sullivans QB school and Chase Daniels channels and just this week, Matt Ryan,Drew Brees and Ryan Leaf all backed these assessments up. These are all former NFL Quarterbacks who have had varied success in the league and understand how difficult it is.
Can we please stop the Brock bashing and just enjoy the fact that Brock has led his team to 2 Championship,s a 4-1 playoff record, the 1 when he was injured 5 minutes into the game, and a Superbowl. All with no relevant pre season reps and coming back from a torn ligament in his throwing arm.
Dude, just finish watching before texting. He literally talk about that at the end of the video.
Colin is on drugs
Colin is a clown
All this 😚🍑 KC is nauseating 🤢
*49ers are the real underdogs*
This clown is becoming the biggest Purdy hater 😂