@@wathsi99 He was editing and realised the section for the filmbooks that Paul watches needed a VoiceOver so he did some for the pre-edit, and rather than rerecord them both another VoiceOver artist DV decided to keep them in. It reminds me of the Hitchhiker's guide voice style.
His wife was also a Bene Gesserit, and denied him a son. All part of the BGs plan to put their Kwisatz Haderach on the throne. But they didn’t anticipate not being able to control him.
>name comes from a location in Greece >name has Italian suffix >current “padishahs” title is Persian >aforementioned padishahs name ‘shaddam’ seems to be based of the Arabic name ‘saddam’ House corrino everyone
Yes, all of that is correct. I think it might be the writers idea to show how far it is happening in the future. They are "loan-words" everywhere from different cultures from the "old earth".
Well of course. In 10 000 years of galactic scale "globalization" (for lack of a better word), all the different cultures, naming conventions, titles, and even language mixes to a point where you couldn't tell them apart.
Padishah literally means "The Great King". This happened after the Dune was published but coincidentally, Saddam Hossein the dictator of Iraq attacked Persia shortly after the Padishah left the throne in the real life (1970-1980s)
Because in the future there are no more "countries" - there are whole PLANETS of humans. So in such a distant future all of the cultures mix and mashed together
Also, this is not exclusive to the Corrinos. The Bene Gesserit also take upon themselves 3 names, one of which Arabic, one Hebrew and one Latin IIRC. Or something along those lines. And the Atreides household also has both Scottish AND Greek motives. It's a multicultural overload.
Really wish DV will also explore the rest of the Great Houses of the Landsraad in his Dune Messiah. So that we can have more of these feature videos of the great houses.
Yeah it would be awesome. At the moment from the movie perceptive the Dune universe feels small but the ending of part 2 showed there is many others out there
Not gonna happen. House Ordos was a playable faction in the Dune RTS games, very popular, but the Herbert Estate did nothing to fully bring them into canon.
@@mattandrews2594house Ordos isn’t the only other noble house in the imperium besides Corrino, Atreidies and Harkonnen though, and they are definitely canon. There is also house Boro, house Ecaz, house Fenring, house Hagal, house Ginaz, house Moritani, house Mutellu, house Novebruns, house Richese, house Taligari and house Vernius.
@@nathantudor5763 And where do we get to see any of those other Houses fully fleshed out? Nowhere. Also you are 100% wrong about Ordos being canon because the Herbert Estate de-canonised their only original source - the old Dune Encyclopedia, and the Dune games themselves don't count because the rights are from the Lynch film only.
@JohnSmith99-zj2lc No one goes up against the Sardaukar and lives. NO ONE. Paul and the Fremen will need to draw upon all of their teachings if they are to survive against them in Part Two.
Im a big fan of IPs doing multimedia in-universe immersive content like this. Its fun. Clever way of explaining the larger lore the movies could’ve gone into. I hope they do more.
0:20 Little innacuracy, the calendar they use (circa 10,000 A.G.) starts with the creation of the spacing guild which happened roughly in the years 10,000-12,000 of our calendar, so it should be roughly 20,000 years ago.
Ummm, that was incredible! Can we release more of these? The voice actor narrating these is perfect - I loved the scene from the first movie when Paul is listening to him describe the Fremen.
The Battle of Corinth took place in 146 BC. This means it was closer to 25 thousand years before the events of Dune. The date 10191 is based on the formation of The Spacing Guild, which occurred approx 15 thousand years from now.
I'd like to know what happened 10,000 years ago when they fought against the machines/ai and ultimately decided to abandon most of the machine/ai dependent devices.
Spoilers, it was known as the Butlerian Jihad. In the original canon, humans went to war against "thinking machines" as they came to be known and it was basically like the future war of Terminator, only on an interplanetary scale and the humans won. After that, thinking machines were seen as such an existential threat to human life that any kind of computing device was banned forever, not only illegal but like an unthinkable cultural taboo. It was humanity's new commandment: "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind." Simple computers and even something as innocuous as a calculator were all prohibited, and anyone caught violating this would be immediately sentenced to death. (I think I remember reading a passage where the Imperium would even sterilize an entire planet if there was anyone found violating this law.) So as thousands of years passed, humans needed to replace the functions that computers served without actually discovering computers/AI again. Humans started to use their own brains for these tasks through a combination of training, genetic engineering, and the psychotropic properties of the spice melange. This is how they produced mentats (Thufir Hawat and Piter de Vries) who were basically human calculators/AI assistants and very knowledgeable. The Bene Gesserit and the Spacing Guild also took over certain functions of computers, like Guild Navigators took over for AI navigation systems on spaceships. The extended series by Frank Herbert's son gives more of the backstory, but I prefer this vague version as it lends more to the imagination. In the expanded universe, there was some kind of super smart AI named Omnius that wanted to rule humanity or something. It's less interesting than it sounds IMO, but I respect Frank Herbert's son for continuing his legacy and trying to add more to the Duniverse.
@@d-_-b8558 That's from the books by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson, which are basically bad fanfic. Here's what Frank Herbert said in Dune: “Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.” Once again, he was writing about ways people with power exploit those without it, not about machines fighting humans on their own. Unfortunately, those two dumbed down Frank Herbert's work and created a lame Terminator rip-off. That's just one reason I will always ignore their work.
@@natmanprime4295 I think OP meant what was said. The Kaaba is a stone building at the center of Mecca, holy to the faith of Islam. The shot at 0:07 reminded me of it, too.
want to know why they don't have computers? Guess what...there are.... books. Soooo many books you can read where it's explained why they don't have computers.
If you'd ever release an extended version of the movies and cover all of the lore with these filmbooks, you'd make all the fans happy. Everyone wants to see the unreleased scenes and nobody cares about the pacing. The original movies exist, an extended cut wouldn't destroy Denis' legacy...
@@alby_alby Yeah, that's what he said. But someone, somewhere, with lots of access and absolutely no permission, slip us a copy. Please. I want to see filmed scenes of Count Fenring.
@@scipio7766 I wish for this too. I think everyone would. It's nice that we already know Thufir is in the scene where Feyd is talking to Baron in the tub from the screenX trailer but it's not enough :(
Another filmbook vignette. Excellent. :-) It's interesting that they weave in themes into the claimed history of House Corrino that are somewhat stylistically similar to the purported history of House Atreides: Claimed descent that goes all the way back to ancient Greece, or at least "ancient Earth" (which, from their perspective, might as well be the same as our present, ha). The Atreides claim this in a mythological manner, perceiving themselves as the descendants of the mythical Atreus (their "House legend", so to speak), while the Corrinos do it (arguably) historically, looking back at the Battle of Corrin. Which they no doubt perceive as tying back either to the ancient Corinth, or the Battle of Corrinth (in the American Civil War), or the setting's Battle of Corrin, during humanity's interstellar era, but still thousands of year prior. Frank Herbert never explicitly noted when the Battle of Corrin took place, or whether the Corrinos ever claimed descent from any particular Earth cultures or lineages, but the Battle of Corrin certainly is where they decided to adopt the name for their dynasty. Personally, when I read the book series already years ago, the Corrinos struck me, culturally at least, as a blend of European and Persian motifs. Terms like "padishah" and "sardakaur" and maybe also the lion motif of their throne point to a Persian or Persian-adjacent historical inspiration. The rest evokes your typical long-lived European dynasties, like the Habsburgs, and so on. As with everything in Dune's "present", when the first trilogy is set, things had long since become so culturally combined and blended that it's hard to seek any definite answers on who the actual ancestors of this or that culture or faction were. The fact that ancient Earth history, modern Earth history, and the thousands of years worth of the history of galactic settlement have all become one big jumble to people in Dune's setting, is both fitting and rather unsurprising. It also makes sense that House Corrino would want to intentionally combine actual ancient history with mythmaking, both Earth-derived and more recent, for their own dynastic propaganda purposes. I think that purpose is pretty clear in the storyline of the film adaptations. Paul's filmbook in the first film referred to the Fremen as "unreliable", which is obviously a very Imperium and House Corrino point of view, of the Fremen only as adversaries or a nuissance. Whereas every culture in the setting, the Fremen included, is actually complex and nuanced, even if they all have their more cynical motivations (some greater than most, the Harkonnen being a particularly extreme example).
The Battle of Corinth actually took place about 20,000 years prior in the Dune universe. The year 10,000 mentioned in the story is based upon a new calendar, that dates from approximately when the war with AI took place, 10,000 years prior, and 10,000 years from now in actual reality.
No, you're over correcting. The events of the first book / movies are 20,000 years in the future. Dated roughly to year 10,000 AG - After Guild. The battle of Corrino was roughly around 1 AG. Hence, 10,000 years before the first book / movies.
@@QuantumHistorianThe Battle of Corinth took place in 146 BC on the Christian calendar. This means it would have taken place approximately 20,000 years before the events in the Dune series
@@tommy35ss There have been *many* battles of Corinth, both before and after that. But you are right, there was one by the Romans on that date which led to the destruction of the city. Apologies for thinking you were talking about something relevant.
@@badyoutuber1986 That's what they hoped would be known. But Sardaukar were definitely involved and key to success, though also a big no-no in the Dune universe, a significant gamble on the Emperor's part.
The planet Corrin, now known as Salusa Secundus, where the Sardaukar comes from, serves as a prison and training ground for the Sardaukar. Those who broke imperial law and were judged guilty were sentenced to imprisonment on the planet. It is believed that the Sardaukar are the children and descendants of those prisoners. Additionally, the Sardaukar has a policy where only the best can reach the status of Sardaukar, and the rest are sacrificed. We see this in the film where those who "lose" are sacrificed, and their blood is marked upon the foreheads of those who "win."
The Emperors perfected the art of Machiavellian politics. They played houses off one another. Used the control of spice to manipulate various houses through choam the monopolist control of trade through out the universe.
0:18 this incorrectly implies the Battle of Corrin was some medieval battle. It was in fact a space battle and although it took place 10,000 years in the past from the perspective of Dune, it happened still happened thousands of years into the future from our time
Fun fact: Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV was known to have a weak immunity to various pathogens, and often came down with various illnesses. the only known cure at the time was more cowbell.
These new films take a minimalist approach. In the books it’s a lion and Harkonnen is a gryphon. In these new films it looks like a Bull to me? For carriono(some say it’s a ship) and the harkonnen it’s a take on their Black Sun for the banner I believe.
I researched some stuff about the harkonnens according to the books. Their sigils are a ram and griffin. Their uniforms are colored blue and orange. Very strange for an industrial heavy and pale house, really. Lol
@@natetendencia yeah the books have loads and loads of great colors. My only dislike of the new films is the muted look but it is what it is. I do wish they went even further with the “game of thrones in space” but that’s just what I picture in my head.
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. The color gold goes hand in hand with house Corrino. The imperial seat was known as the Golden Lion Throne for a reason. They replaced the gold color scheme with silver for some reason. I think they should've contrasted silver and gold. The Sardaukar I wish also looked less brutalist than they do. Villeneuve's Dune is a tad but too minimalistic and brutalistic. The designs are amazing but a bit of grandiosity would really complement them.
just release each book as a one or three season show and be done with it. you have unlimited amount of work. use it smart. I personally would recommend one book, 1 season.
Hard to take the Sardaukar serious as "the most elite fighting force" when they get absolutely steamrolled in every engagement with the Fremen. I get that Dune 2 wanted to showcase "Desert Power" but it came at the cost of what was looking like a really cool faction.
Sardaukar only gets one engagement against the Fremen, in the final battle. They didn't expect such a massive force, so well trained and organized, coming in controlling worms and with NUKES on top of that. They understimated just how much the storm would weaken their shields. Yes "desert power" might be overplayed, but the whole theme of Sardaukar is how they're artificially kept on a rought prison planet to remain "though", but even that isn't enough to rivalize with Fremen who have to spend their entire life surviving Arrakis.
Insufficient data error. Sardaukar warriors are most elite fighting force and the most terryfying thing anyone can face in the known universe. They did what they wanted with Atreides fighters and won most combats with ease. Fremen are totally different thing. They developed as tough and excellent warriors ignored by larger galaxy. Nobody knew how many they were and how tough they become. Sardaukar training program and living regime was one of the greatest secrets of House Corrino and asking too many questions is enough if you want quick and sudden death. Thufir Hawat and baron Harkonnen start to suspect some things in the book, but it is Thufir that figured it out: extremely difficult living conditions plus religious belief of one's superiority. That's how they wanted to use Fremen in the first place. Upt to the Spice crisis nobody suspected how powerful and numerous Fremen really are.
What they left out from the movies is that the Fedaykin are not only people extremely hardened by Arrakis, but also trained by Paul and Jessica in the Bene Gesserit weirding way. The Fremen rivaled the Sardaukar as they were, but getting additional training of the weirding ways pushed them quite above Sardaukar. So yup, it makes sense for the movie to be the way it is, but it's a bit obscure in some key areas. Can't fit all the details on an IMAX film roll.
What is a film book and what is this? The thing Paul listened to about the Fremen in part 1, but can you see more of these? I think part 2 lacked a lot of the "Dune feeling" that part 1 had - in part because it didn't focus on dialog, drama and creating the story and the atmosphere - more focused on action.
The reason the emperor didn't have any sons was because his wife was also Bene Gesserit but she chose not to defy her orders to only bear female child unlike Jessica who gave Duke Leto a son.
exactly. casting him was a big mistake because no one can take him seriously anymore. still liked the movie, but him being in it was immersion-breaking.
There is actually a LOT of footage that was cut out in post-production editing process. The actual runtime of the first Dune movie was around 5 to 6 hours so that alone should give you a rough idea of how much we didn't get to see.
can this guy do the whole original Dune book as an audio recording? Maybe even with Hans Zimmer's music in the background?
It sounds like the editor Joe Walker
@@wathsi99 It is Joe Walker. I really want him to do an audiobook recording, he's got a great voice!
@@wathsi99 He was editing and realised the section for the filmbooks that Paul watches needed a VoiceOver so he did some for the pre-edit, and rather than rerecord them both another VoiceOver artist DV decided to keep them in. It reminds me of the Hitchhiker's guide voice style.
That would be fire. And with Hans Zimmer’s score 😭
I've listened to the audiobook, it's arguably even better
His wife was also a Bene Gesserit, and denied him a son. All part of the BGs plan to put their Kwisatz Haderach on the throne. But they didn’t anticipate not being able to control him.
Incorrect. Jessica was instructed to bear daughters and she went against her orders and kept a son.
@@LycorisThe I was talking about the emperor…which was the point of the video.
His first mistake was to marry a bene Gesserit
@@LycorisThehis wife, the empress is also a bene gesserit who denied him sons
@@LycorisThe some people just want to think they're right. Slow down and comprehend what you're about to reply to.
>name comes from a location in Greece
>name has Italian suffix
>current “padishahs” title is Persian
>aforementioned padishahs name ‘shaddam’ seems to be based of the Arabic name ‘saddam’
House corrino everyone
Yes, all of that is correct. I think it might be the writers idea to show how far it is happening in the future. They are "loan-words" everywhere from different cultures from the "old earth".
Well of course. In 10 000 years of galactic scale "globalization" (for lack of a better word), all the different cultures, naming conventions, titles, and even language mixes to a point where you couldn't tell them apart.
Padishah literally means "The Great King". This happened after the Dune was published but coincidentally, Saddam Hossein the dictator of Iraq attacked Persia shortly after the Padishah left the throne in the real life (1970-1980s)
Because in the future there are no more "countries" - there are whole PLANETS of humans. So in such a distant future all of the cultures mix and mashed together
Also, this is not exclusive to the Corrinos. The Bene Gesserit also take upon themselves 3 names, one of which Arabic, one Hebrew and one Latin IIRC. Or something along those lines.
And the Atreides household also has both Scottish AND Greek motives. It's a multicultural overload.
Really wish DV will also explore the rest of the Great Houses of the Landsraad in his Dune Messiah. So that we can have more of these feature videos of the great houses.
Yeah it would be awesome. At the moment from the movie perceptive the Dune universe feels small but the ending of part 2 showed there is many others out there
Not gonna happen. House Ordos was a playable faction in the Dune RTS games, very popular, but the Herbert Estate did nothing to fully bring them into canon.
@@mattandrews2594house Ordos isn’t the only other noble house in the imperium besides Corrino, Atreidies and Harkonnen though, and they are definitely canon.
There is also house Boro, house Ecaz, house Fenring, house Hagal, house Ginaz, house Moritani, house Mutellu, house Novebruns, house Richese, house Taligari and house Vernius.
Wish they wouldn't have left a whole bunch out of this one lol.
@@nathantudor5763 And where do we get to see any of those other Houses fully fleshed out? Nowhere. Also you are 100% wrong about Ordos being canon because the Herbert Estate de-canonised their only original source - the old Dune Encyclopedia, and the Dune games themselves don't count because the rights are from the Lynch film only.
The Filmbooks Must Flow!!
Fun fact: Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV would often dance across the empty hallways of Opal Palace in his spare time.
You can blow with this
Or you can blow with that
Walk without rhythm
And it won't attract the worm
Fun fact: the Emperor's planned weapon of choice was Shai-Hulud, but Lisan al Gaib beat him to it, so he settled for dancing instead.
Fun fact:Emperor Shaddam Corrino told house of harkonnen he had a Fever for more Cowbell
funner fact: Christopher Walken is a classically trained dancer.
Have you read the novel?
As part of House Corrino, I can confirm this filmbook.
As a member of fremen army, I can confirm his wish got fulfilled by Lisan-al-gaib
As a literal sandworm, I can confirm this as written
As the offical House Corrino cat: meow
@JohnSmith99-zj2lc No one goes up against the Sardaukar and lives. NO ONE. Paul and the Fremen will need to draw upon all of their teachings if they are to survive against them in Part Two.
@JohnSmith99-zj2lc As a Truthsayer only I can confirm the facts
i will gladly pay for a series of these
A series of these was already made, and you can pay for them. It's the books!
@@GarudaPSN You must be fun at parties..
I will gladly pay WB Tuesday for a Dune film book series today💸
@@GarudaPSN Mf, he meant the narrator, and the editing. Not the lore itself.
More of these!
yes
These film books are on a different level, and keeping us interested in Dune
Nothing will allay my interest in Dune
I love the detail that the texts are in Galach
Im a big fan of IPs doing multimedia in-universe immersive content like this. Its fun. Clever way of explaining the larger lore the movies could’ve gone into. I hope they do more.
The ones they made for Game of Thrones were excellent
Let’s goooo back in IMAX for 4/20
THE SPICE MUST FLOW
Lisan al Gaib!
✊🏽
Long Live the Fighters o7
Arabic: لسان الغيب (The tongue of the unseen')
In such perfection, all things move towards death..
As a servant of the imperium, you will bow out my feet..
YOUR FEET?! You’ll be lucky if you keep your head!
well alright, but you know where to stick that gold watch ;)
So happy they made another one of these!
*Cube on Kaitain* : "We are the Corrinos Lower your personal shields and surrender your thopters."
And all in Walken's peculiar manner of speech.
0:20 Little innacuracy, the calendar they use (circa 10,000 A.G.) starts with the creation of the spacing guild which happened roughly in the years 10,000-12,000 of our calendar, so it should be roughly 20,000 years ago.
It's saying that particular battle was 10,000 years before the events of Dune. NOT that Dune is 10,000 years into the future.
Please be kidding...
Ummm, that was incredible! Can we release more of these? The voice actor narrating these is perfect - I loved the scene from the first movie when Paul is listening to him describe the Fremen.
i want more these kinds of filmbooks about dune
Thank you for continuing with these video. Excellent use of the lore. It truly deepens the experience.
Whoever designed Irulan's outfit *chef's kiss*
The Battle of Corinth took place in 146 BC. This means it was closer to 25 thousand years before the events of Dune. The date 10191 is based on the formation of The Spacing Guild, which occurred approx 15 thousand years from now.
it's not referring to the battle of corinth, but rather corrin
@@cs5476 That does make more sense. It does definitely say Corinth on the video though.
@@tonywildchid Yeah, in this case Corrin was the final battle of the Butlerian Jihad against the Thinking Machines.
@@teencommentyou mean against the humans using thinking machines to enslave other humans? 🤨
I don't know what to tell you my guy, this dude definitely says corrin.@@tonywildchid
the last line got me..😁 symbolizing the peaceful transition of power
I'd like to know what happened 10,000 years ago when they fought against the machines/ai and ultimately decided to abandon most of the machine/ai dependent devices.
read the books bro, but yeah they had problems with AI that hated humans
Spoilers, it was known as the Butlerian Jihad. In the original canon, humans went to war against "thinking machines" as they came to be known and it was basically like the future war of Terminator, only on an interplanetary scale and the humans won. After that, thinking machines were seen as such an existential threat to human life that any kind of computing device was banned forever, not only illegal but like an unthinkable cultural taboo. It was humanity's new commandment: "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind." Simple computers and even something as innocuous as a calculator were all prohibited, and anyone caught violating this would be immediately sentenced to death. (I think I remember reading a passage where the Imperium would even sterilize an entire planet if there was anyone found violating this law.)
So as thousands of years passed, humans needed to replace the functions that computers served without actually discovering computers/AI again. Humans started to use their own brains for these tasks through a combination of training, genetic engineering, and the psychotropic properties of the spice melange. This is how they produced mentats (Thufir Hawat and Piter de Vries) who were basically human calculators/AI assistants and very knowledgeable. The Bene Gesserit and the Spacing Guild also took over certain functions of computers, like Guild Navigators took over for AI navigation systems on spaceships.
The extended series by Frank Herbert's son gives more of the backstory, but I prefer this vague version as it lends more to the imagination. In the expanded universe, there was some kind of super smart AI named Omnius that wanted to rule humanity or something. It's less interesting than it sounds IMO, but I respect Frank Herbert's son for continuing his legacy and trying to add more to the Duniverse.
@@d-_-b8558 cool
Well according to this video the battle of corrinth was 10000 years ago 🥴
@@d-_-b8558 That's from the books by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson, which are basically bad fanfic. Here's what Frank Herbert said in Dune:
“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
Once again, he was writing about ways people with power exploit those without it, not about machines fighting humans on their own. Unfortunately, those two dumbed down Frank Herbert's work and created a lame Terminator rip-off. That's just one reason I will always ignore their work.
Estou amando esses filmsbooks, por favor façam mais
Eu também
Bruh i just wanna keep watching!!! This is addictive
That’s so cool! Please do some of Princess Irulan’s writings
"The strongest military force in the Galaxy: The Sardaukar"
Paul and the Fedaykin: Bet
we never fully see House Corino seat, that's straight up the Kaaba
*khyber?
@@natmanprime4295 I think OP meant what was said. The Kaaba is a stone building at the center of Mecca, holy to the faith of Islam. The shot at 0:07 reminded me of it, too.
@@matthewmoulton1 i know what ka'aba is, i just dont get the grammar
Don't the books says the Harkonnen dwell in a big cube? It's taken over by the Bene Geserit later.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5tsTrump Tower.
the house of wavy robes
They really don't want to mention the Butlerian Jihad huh
want to know why they don't have computers? Guess what...there are....
books. Soooo many books you can read where it's explained why they don't have computers.
House of Butler is house Corrino renamed later. They had major keyrole in defeating machines.
How often do you read modern history and someone mentions a past event that happened 5 thousand years before..
As someone who never read the books, I genuinely enjoyed Part 1 & 2 and seen both in IMAX this year.
If you'd ever release an extended version of the movies and cover all of the lore with these filmbooks, you'd make all the fans happy. Everyone wants to see the unreleased scenes and nobody cares about the pacing. The original movies exist, an extended cut wouldn't destroy Denis' legacy...
We want the director's extra long cut.
"never gonna happen" - Dennis V
@@alby_alby Yeah, that's what he said. But someone, somewhere, with lots of access and absolutely no permission, slip us a copy. Please. I want to see filmed scenes of Count Fenring.
@@scipio7766 I wish for this too. I think everyone would. It's nice that we already know Thufir is in the scene where Feyd is talking to Baron in the tub from the screenX trailer but it's not enough :(
Cool little detail that the text is written in Galach. At 0:30 for instance it says Sardaukar Armed Forces and Weaponry
0:14 map of Ottoman Empire ? 😅
i think it’s eastern roman empire
The map used old name of roman province prob from antiquities era, so not ottoman
I hope they continue doing these going to “Messiah.” Film books for the Spacing Guild and the Bene Tleilax would be awesome.
I like how we first heard this narrator's voice in Dune Part One (2021).
Another filmbook vignette. Excellent. :-)
It's interesting that they weave in themes into the claimed history of House Corrino that are somewhat stylistically similar to the purported history of House Atreides: Claimed descent that goes all the way back to ancient Greece, or at least "ancient Earth" (which, from their perspective, might as well be the same as our present, ha). The Atreides claim this in a mythological manner, perceiving themselves as the descendants of the mythical Atreus (their "House legend", so to speak), while the Corrinos do it (arguably) historically, looking back at the Battle of Corrin. Which they no doubt perceive as tying back either to the ancient Corinth, or the Battle of Corrinth (in the American Civil War), or the setting's Battle of Corrin, during humanity's interstellar era, but still thousands of year prior. Frank Herbert never explicitly noted when the Battle of Corrin took place, or whether the Corrinos ever claimed descent from any particular Earth cultures or lineages, but the Battle of Corrin certainly is where they decided to adopt the name for their dynasty.
Personally, when I read the book series already years ago, the Corrinos struck me, culturally at least, as a blend of European and Persian motifs. Terms like "padishah" and "sardakaur" and maybe also the lion motif of their throne point to a Persian or Persian-adjacent historical inspiration. The rest evokes your typical long-lived European dynasties, like the Habsburgs, and so on. As with everything in Dune's "present", when the first trilogy is set, things had long since become so culturally combined and blended that it's hard to seek any definite answers on who the actual ancestors of this or that culture or faction were. The fact that ancient Earth history, modern Earth history, and the thousands of years worth of the history of galactic settlement have all become one big jumble to people in Dune's setting, is both fitting and rather unsurprising.
It also makes sense that House Corrino would want to intentionally combine actual ancient history with mythmaking, both Earth-derived and more recent, for their own dynastic propaganda purposes. I think that purpose is pretty clear in the storyline of the film adaptations. Paul's filmbook in the first film referred to the Fremen as "unreliable", which is obviously a very Imperium and House Corrino point of view, of the Fremen only as adversaries or a nuissance. Whereas every culture in the setting, the Fremen included, is actually complex and nuanced, even if they all have their more cynical motivations (some greater than most, the Harkonnen being a particularly extreme example).
Honestly, was not expecting this movie to be better than the first. But wow. Can't wait for the next part!
and it wasn't better than the first one.
The Battle of Corinth actually took place about 20,000 years prior in the Dune universe. The year 10,000 mentioned in the story is based upon a new calendar, that dates from approximately when the war with AI took place, 10,000 years prior, and 10,000 years from now in actual reality.
I thought that was a pretty glaring mistake on their part.
No, you're over correcting. The events of the first book / movies are 20,000 years in the future. Dated roughly to year 10,000 AG - After Guild. The battle of Corrino was roughly around 1 AG. Hence, 10,000 years before the first book / movies.
@@QuantumHistorianThe Battle of Corinth took place in 146 BC on the Christian calendar. This means it would have taken place approximately 20,000 years before the events in the Dune series
@@tommy35ss There have been *many* battles of Corinth, both before and after that. But you are right, there was one by the Romans on that date which led to the destruction of the city. Apologies for thinking you were talking about something relevant.
@QuantumHistorian They clearly referenced the Battle of Corinth in the video so not sure what you are referring to as 'not relevant'.
This presentation makes me feel like I'm about to hop in my AC
Underappreciated comment. I see you, Raven
It is interesting that the map shows Mare Mediteraneum or the Mediterranean Sea. You can clearly see the Adriatic and Croatias coastline.
the entire book kept saying his army is so and so fierce and formidable, but I feel they are just a group of 'elite stormtroopers'.
They killed House Atreides. But underestimated the Fremen, because they did not expect that so many are alive
Wasn't it the harkonen forces that assassinated lato?
@@badyoutuber1986 That's what they hoped would be known. But Sardaukar were definitely involved and key to success, though also a big no-no in the Dune universe, a significant gamble on the Emperor's part.
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These are so cool! WB should make more it's essentially free (very entertaining) advertising
The first years of House Corrino must be made a min series they was beasts from what i read
Thank you. Really loved both movies.❤❤
The planet Corrin, now known as Salusa Secundus, where the Sardaukar comes from, serves as a prison and training ground for the Sardaukar. Those who broke imperial law and were judged guilty were sentenced to imprisonment on the planet. It is believed that the Sardaukar are the children and descendants of those prisoners. Additionally, the Sardaukar has a policy where only the best can reach the status of Sardaukar, and the rest are sacrificed. We see this in the film where those who "lose" are sacrificed, and their blood is marked upon the foreheads of those who "win."
The Emperors perfected the art of Machiavellian politics. They played houses off one another. Used the control of spice to manipulate various houses through choam the monopolist control of trade through out the universe.
Reminds me of Templin Institute videos. Liking this.
0:18 this incorrectly implies the Battle of Corrin was some medieval battle. It was in fact a space battle and although it took place 10,000 years in the past from the perspective of Dune, it happened still happened thousands of years into the future from our time
Fun fact: Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV was known to have a weak immunity to various pathogens, and often came down with various illnesses. the only known cure at the time was more cowbell.
Can't wait for Part 3
I thought the house corinno sigil is a golden lion. Same thing for the harkonnen sigil. Weird.
Harkonnen is some type of bird mythical thing, Corrino is a lion.
These new films take a minimalist approach. In the books it’s a lion and Harkonnen is a gryphon.
In these new films it looks like a Bull to me? For carriono(some say it’s a ship) and the harkonnen it’s a take on their Black Sun for the banner I believe.
@@eradic It's a griffin in the books.
I researched some stuff about the harkonnens according to the books. Their sigils are a ram and griffin. Their uniforms are colored blue and orange. Very strange for an industrial heavy and pale house, really. Lol
@@natetendencia yeah the books have loads and loads of great colors. My only dislike of the new films is the muted look but it is what it is. I do wish they went even further with the “game of thrones in space” but that’s just what I picture in my head.
I wish there was more gold
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. The color gold goes hand in hand with house Corrino. The imperial seat was known as the Golden Lion Throne for a reason. They replaced the gold color scheme with silver for some reason. I think they should've contrasted silver and gold. The Sardaukar I wish also looked less brutalist than they do. Villeneuve's Dune is a tad but too minimalistic and brutalistic. The designs are amazing but a bit of grandiosity would really complement them.
Why is this not in the movie? If this movie by any chance have an extended version of it, I'd definitely rewatch it on IMAX!
Love this filmbooks
Also the narrator for these sands like the actor who played Gueney Haddock in the Dune mini series from the early 2000s.
please give us an audiobook with this voice! This is so cool!
I love this Filmbooks series ❤
I need more of these ASAP 😭👏🏻💙
I love it please keep posting more
just release each book as a one or three season show and be done with it. you have unlimited amount of work. use it smart. I personally would recommend one book, 1 season.
Give me more of this!
I wish they let Christopher Walken have the same military uniform Shaddam from the original film.
To formally militaristic as opposed to political.
At first I thought it was crazy that these houses and families have lasted for ten thousand years, but then I remembered: Bene Gesserit.
Watching this reminded me that we could've had a movie where it's just endless monologuing under a different director.
This was awesome and I need more lol
Anyone has a plan how the game is named what Shaddam IV. and Irulan played in the movie and is shown in 0:54 ?
It’s called Cheops. It’s basically their version of chess.
Hard to take the Sardaukar serious as "the most elite fighting force" when they get absolutely steamrolled in every engagement with the Fremen. I get that Dune 2 wanted to showcase "Desert Power" but it came at the cost of what was looking like a really cool faction.
Sardaukar only gets one engagement against the Fremen, in the final battle. They didn't expect such a massive force, so well trained and organized, coming in controlling worms and with NUKES on top of that. They understimated just how much the storm would weaken their shields. Yes "desert power" might be overplayed, but the whole theme of Sardaukar is how they're artificially kept on a rought prison planet to remain "though", but even that isn't enough to rivalize with Fremen who have to spend their entire life surviving Arrakis.
Insufficient data error. Sardaukar warriors are most elite fighting force and the most terryfying thing anyone can face in the known universe. They did what they wanted with Atreides fighters and won most combats with ease. Fremen are totally different thing. They developed as tough and excellent warriors ignored by larger galaxy. Nobody knew how many they were and how tough they become. Sardaukar training program and living regime was one of the greatest secrets of House Corrino and asking too many questions is enough if you want quick and sudden death. Thufir Hawat and baron Harkonnen start to suspect some things in the book, but it is Thufir that figured it out: extremely difficult living conditions plus religious belief of one's superiority. That's how they wanted to use Fremen in the first place. Upt to the Spice crisis nobody suspected how powerful and numerous Fremen really are.
What they left out from the movies is that the Fedaykin are not only people extremely hardened by Arrakis, but also trained by Paul and Jessica in the Bene Gesserit weirding way. The Fremen rivaled the Sardaukar as they were, but getting additional training of the weirding ways pushed them quite above Sardaukar.
So yup, it makes sense for the movie to be the way it is, but it's a bit obscure in some key areas. Can't fit all the details on an IMAX film roll.
They steamrolled all,other armies
Duke Leto was building an army that could stand up to them
Which made him dangerous
Wrong
They conducted raids against Ferman compounds and ferman did attacks on them
Little fun fact, the voice you hear in the video is actually the editor for both dune part 1 and 2!
Older Daughter! They setting things up for the future
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>battle of corrin
> saws balkan
> we are finally relatable
wake up babe new filmbook just dropped
You call your mom babe? 😂
I love these vids, makes me think of the Assassin’s Creed 2 lore clips as you play the game
I love these so much
I love you
i need that Director's cut NOW
"Peaceful" transition of power
Weeell abooout that
The cube shaped building looks like the planned Mukaab in Riad.
It's the imperial seat of the galaxy and it's most likely inspired by the Ka'aba.
Love this (voice) actor
He’s the editor
FOR THE EMPEROR!!
It is interesting they didn’t have any establishing shots of this planet. They just had them walking around the garden and a couple of interiors.
This is the coolest thing ever..
What is a map of South-East Europe doing in this video?
Are they also from Greece? ( The map showed was greece same as Atreides )
I don’t know why they showed a map of Greece and soldiers with handheld shields. The Battle of Corrin took place on the planet Corrin
What is a film book and what is this? The thing Paul listened to about the Fremen in part 1, but can you see more of these? I think part 2 lacked a lot of the "Dune feeling" that part 1 had - in part because it didn't focus on dialog, drama and creating the story and the atmosphere - more focused on action.
House Corrino reminds me of the Byzantine and Holy Roman Empire.
GIVE ME MORE OF THIS!!
Thank goodness the new show corrects the timeline that was clearly incorrect in this video
man this is just like armored core 4 mission briefing
I wish we could have seen more of Kaitain and the hall of throne in the movie.
0:14 actually it would be 20,000 years ago. Dune takes place 10,000 years after the butlerian Jihad, which happened 10,000 years from now.
The reason the emperor didn't have any sons was because his wife was also Bene Gesserit but she chose not to defy her orders to only bear female child unlike Jessica who gave Duke Leto a son.
all I hear when I see Christopher Walken is "More Cowbells"
exactly. casting him was a big mistake because no one can take him seriously anymore. still liked the movie, but him being in it was immersion-breaking.
Paul atredies is actually the paternal great great grandson of Elrood IX, so he does have a legitimate claim to the throne
I wish there was a filmbook AR app.
Idk if there is much footage for extended cuts of both films but if Warner Bros has that, please, please, release them 🙏.
There is actually a LOT of footage that was cut out in post-production editing process. The actual runtime of the first Dune movie was around 5 to 6 hours so that alone should give you a rough idea of how much we didn't get to see.
@@maazahmed506 cutting hawat from part 2 was so dumb even though i like the movie a lot, i think his bits in the book are super interesting
@@Paccyd33 I agree. Dune should have gotten the Game of Thrones treatment (not the one that season 7 and 8 got though lol).