2021 Volkswagen Arteon SEL Premium R-Line - POV Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ค. 2024
- MSRP: From $46,995
Horsepower: 268 hp
Torque: 258 lb-ft
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder
Tire size: P245/35R20
MPG: 20 city / 31 highway
Curb weight: 3,955 lbs
0:00 Walkaround
6:39 POV Driving Impressions
9:57 Harman Kardon Sound System Test
12:26 Driving Impressions (continued)
14:17 Final Thoughts
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The arteon exterior is the best looking vw imo
I think it’s a trend with mainstream brands having one premium vehicle in their lineup. Toyota has the premium Venza, which feels like a Lexus, Nissan has the premium Murano, which feels like an Infiniti, etc
Mk7 golf GTI is the best looking
I prefer the original cc.
It's literally an A4 with a VW badge
@@RyanRoadReaper A4 is longitudinal engine, Arteon is transverse engine. But yeah basically the same car other than being on different architectures
This car is rare and beautiful. Although I barely see any on the road, kudos to VW for not giving up on it. Great Review!
In Poland there are shit ton of them xD
I was just looking at them online. The dealerships don’t have any. I bet there’s a shortage of parts. Also, they’re kind of expensive. Not to mention VWs are unreliable. I’ll never buy one again, but I’ll lease one. That way I can give it back before the electrical problems, oil consumption/leaks, and failing timing chains start happening.
@@85funnyguy I have this exact car and never had a single issue once. I’m tuned as well. Never seen a check engine light.
sedans are going extinct in US. many are looking for SUV or trucks.
@@MikeMUFC91 How long have you had yours, interested in one of these for my next car.
There is actually an easier and quicker way to turn off the lane keep assist. You have to press the button on the end of the left steering wheel stalk and it brings up a menu in the digital dash cluster. The lane keep assist is the top option so you just press the OK button on the right side of the steering wheel and it’s turned off.
Lmao “ you have to go deep in the menus, and go through a couple of settings (almost crash)” 🤣
This is the best review of the 2021 Arteon that I've seen thus far - detailed and honest. Great job!
The volume knob pointing up at all times is so relatable.
When it comes to car reviews, your channel is one my favorites. Always looking forward to your videos. Keep up the great work.
My Arteon Premium R-line is such a head turner. Constantly getting comments and stares. I'm in love with it.
Just about to get an Arteon. What colour is yours?
@@georgewatson6871 Magnaese Gray Metallic. I chose the 2020 because I wanted those beautiful turbine wheels.
Just got mine....beautiful car
Also has the VW You're TDI love it
Toureg TDI
Very good and unique review. I like how you mention the long term quirks that may get annoying. Genuine / honest review. Thank you!
This is like a less expensive Audi A5. I really enjoy the hatchback design!
This was actually cannibalizing A5 sales, hence it's not going to be offered in EU anymore
This is like couple of grand less vs a5 sportback. No competition Audi wins everytime.
Just bought a 2021 SEL Premium last week. Awesome car with great looks and nice technology. This car is replacing a 2008 BMW 528i that I purchased new thirteen years ago. I am a German car enthusiast and love my BMW but there are a few things that BMW is doing now which I don’t like. The first thing is unless you are purchasing a black or white exterior paint job then you are paying extra for any metallic paint. Second is run flat tires. I don’t like them as I prefer a traditional spare and RFT’s are expensive. The third thing is a base 530 car which runs you over 50k comes with vinyl (sensatec) seating covers. To get to the Napa line of leather you have to jump two trim levels which takes the car to over 60k. My Arteon has Napa leather seating, a full size spare with the matching wheel, and there was no up charge for pyrite silver metallic on the exterior. To me this is an awesome car which I got at 42k and free money from VW credit.
Congrats, sounds like you got a nice deal on it. I was just at the dealer for service yesterday and peeked in the interior. I could see it being a comfy daily/road trip vehicle. I like the exterior a lot, too.
I traded my 2016 A7 for 2021 VW Arteon Rline, not gonna lie the interior is pretty good but fun part does not match Audi. It is pretty lazy of the start, and deley between smanualy shifting gears is anoying. There is a lot of things in this car that VW should have and could have done better. For starters should not gone fully digital for all the adjustmants. Should have kept a lot of nobs.
42 k ?! Was that OTD or plus fees?
Hi, how is it holding up now 3 years later? Ty
Thanks for another great review. I currently drive a super-clean Avalon with a killer Focal sound system and, as a wedding photographer whose car gets frequently used as a luxury Uber, I REALLY like the space & storage matrix they've put together here. Due to historical reliability, I'm always drawn to an Avalon or ES350 but this car is compelling to me. It's not a GTI, but no car with a big backseat will ever be a GTI. I'll probably get an ƒ-Sport ES350, and just admire Arteons at the stop light. Fun to drive? Everything's a sports car compared to an F-150 or Ridgeline.
Im not sure if it's the TH-cam algorithm or ive not been searching properly but I'm ticked that I just found this channel. Subbed after two vids. Commentary useful, keeps focus on what I wanna see, and no corniness lol. (Also the shank comment on the Passat video had me rolling. Can't unsee it now)
I think this is the most Beautiful car in the world
Picking mine up today!! Can't wait.
For all those who have an issue with the price, I hear you, but take a look at what they are actually selling for. The VW dealer near me has them advertised for more than $6,000 below msrp. That really changes the equation!
Few interesting things I found for North American market was:
1. Port injection per press release
2. Tri zone AC standard on all variants . Avalon has only dual zone.
3. Bottle holders & glove box has padding.
I think SE which is under 35k is the best variant to go with. Got the chance to test drive arteon se & accord 2.0 yesterday and I personally liked fit and finish of vw is excellent. Doors are heavy, camera has more clarity and infotainment has best contrast & audio sound is very nice. Accord 2.0t runs on 87 octane which saves money in pump, very soft & comfortable seat. One thing I observed Honda offers ota update which is very nice.
thank you for this.. I was contemplating whether to get this or an A5.. this review helps a ton.
Nice POV Topher! love the arteon!! I want one of these when I grow up sometime.
The reverse camera popping out, it doesn't get dirty. As a canadian midway thru winter the amount of times of ive had to wipe the camera vs the mk7 golf which is 5 years old has never needed to be cleaned.
Nice video! I was wondering maybe in the future you could do a pov drive about the new 2021 golf gti. Would make a great video!
To turn off Lane keep assist you press the button at the very top of the left steering wheel stock. It brings up the safety assist menu in the dash. You can turn off/on any safety assist. Same as other VW's.
What fantasy land do manufacturers think we live in? In any major city you would have a bent rim within a week with this wheel and tire combo. Bring back the 17 and 18 inch wheels.
Europe where they dont get winters like the midwest
I came here to see the updates to the Arteon because I have the 2019. I didn’t realize this channel was based in metro Detroit until I saw the St. Joe’s Sports Dome!
the price is OUCH. coming from someone who used to own a GTI. thats well into Audi/BMW money. this car's biggest problem is the existence of the A5 sportback which most ppl will spend the extra for
As long as these depreciate quicker than an A5, they'll be a great low mileage used car. I'd imagine by this time next year this same car with 15k miles will cost 26-27k
I had a 2018 GTI SE 6M. I cross shopped this car, Alfa Stelvio, Acura RDX A-Spec.... and bought a Kia Stinger GT1 RWD.
@@intrinsicimagery If I had to, there's no way I could decide between a Stinger and a G70. You've got more rear leg room in the Stinger, but the G70 is so much better looking.
@@PacoRobbins the G70 is blah. And the Stinger was $8200 off sticker after wrestling with the dealer.
@@intrinsicimagery The whole liftback thing is the turn off for me with the Stinger. Ultimately, I think the G80 would be the vehicle I'd go with. Especially with the updated look and the 3.5 engine.
That Foot Clapping Ritual...🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Oh my god how related I feel that you clean your shoes before getting in the car, nobody understands why I do this. 😭❤️
I really like the sound of the door shutting. Also, I prefer it with the turbine wheels. In my opinion. 🙃
I actually really like the exterior and interior, but yeah - hard to pick this over an A5 or even a Stinger, especially with the new 300hp 2.5Ls coming out
Mantap mobil ini ulasan anda sangat bermanfaat...semoga lebih terinci lg contoh tes kecepatan 0-100 kmj dll...menariknya anda perdengarkan suara saund sistem di tiap mobil ulasan,sangat bermanfaat bro👍👍
I assume that new 8 speed is ZF's torque converter unit?
Nice video as always mate!
The arteon looks like a good buy, let down a bit by the hefty price tag
Always got fire music 🔥🔥🤙🏼
Volkswagen usually gets one thing right. And thats pricing. But this time, they screwed it up. Nobody's should pay that money for a Volkswagen accord.
I think if you check your local dealer a SEL R-Line with AWD is about $38K-$39K, the price of an Accord with far more premium features and AWD that isn't available on the Accord.
The Honda Accord is nowhere near the Arteon league, but have you checked out the price on a Toyota Avalon which doesn’t even come in AWD? I doubt you did.
@@DeniJasmina not for anything, but the Avalon is a big comfortable boat that isn’t trying to come off as performance oriented, it’s a dressed down Lexus. This Arteon is a dressed up Passat masquerading as performance oriented luxury option, when it’s neither sporty or luxurious. As far as premium regular cars not manufactured by luxury brands, the Avalon blows the Arteon out of the water with the cabin materials and has an advantage of 33hp and 9 lb-ft torque with a reliable V6. I’ve driven both, and my friend’s Arteon felt like the Passat I had for two weeks as a budget airport rental when I was on vacation. Lastly, the tech offered in the Avalon at $43k is far superior than what’s offered in this VW, which has tech from generations ago and costs $48k. I see very few Avalon’s on the road, so it doesn’t surprise me that it’s being discontinued after this year, but I see ZERO of this car on the road and I’m dumbfounded that it’s still around. Hell, a fully loaded Mazda 6 turbo costs $12k less than this Arteon and blows it out of the water.
As far as the Accord is concerned, there’s a reason why it’s cheaper than the Arteon. With that said, there’s also a reason why it’s more expensive used 😂
This car looks very close to the VW Virtus (made in Brazil) which I have one. The GTS model, 1.4 litre with 150 HP and almost the same interior features.
Nice cars... the Arteon and mine. hehe
Regards from Brazil.
okhere is my opinion on it and to point out some of the things that you missed in your 1st 6 minute review. First of this year I went from 2010 CC ,which I had for couple of years, to 2016 Audi A7, which by the way is an excellent 4 door performance car, the supercharge in that engine makes a lot of difference comparing it to turbo, literally instant power and super fast!. I could not even imagine how rs7 would feel. That being said I had a break down, even though it had only 46k miles on it and the break down cost me 5300$ to fix it, it was software/electronic issue that pretty much controls everything in that car. If you gonna buy Audi make sure it is brand new or get every possible coverage you can get when buying used one. That made me to go back to a dealership after only 4 months and find something else. I decided to go with 2021 VW Arteon R line. The main reason I decided on it was because of the looks, It resembles A7 pretty close, also all the tech in it is very similar to what my A7 had so it was pretty easy to get used to navigating through it. I had that car for 2 weeks now and I have few things to say. 1st of even though it has 268 hp of the line is super slow! There is no that instant kick the Audi had even with all drives, it takes about 1 to 1.5 seconds for Turbo to kick in and then you can feel little kick but whoever you gonna race they will already be car and a half ahead of you and you will always have to play catch up game, 2nd thing that anoyes me is delay between gear changes! Even when you put in "manual" so you can shift gears on shift pedals there is a huge delay between each gears. Another thing it is pretty big car but the outside mirrors feel really small comparing it to my CC and A7. Now in my own opinion for these issues i brought up 49k is definitely not worth it. Another thing what is annoying even when you go to main settings and you turn off all the assist features off and then once you stop and turn off your car and go back in all of them will be back on so you have to do it again before leaving. All this has to be done before you start driving because once you drive you can not navigate anything in car setting, it is locked due to "your safety" which is so stupid because you also have passenger who can play with all that. A7 you could do anything you wanted while driving. As far as line assist goes you can actually press button on your left nob where high beams are and you will get the screen pop up and you can actually turn it off right there with pushing ok button, so you do not need to do that in mail screen in the middle as you said. Also what you were wrong about, the spare tire is doughnut tire, it is not same size as on the car. Another annoying thing are all the controls are touch screen for everything so you have to be right on it to adjust. even if is as simple as increasing your temp, when driving is almost impossible to get it right because your hand moves around. VW SHOULD HAVE LEFT ACTUAL NOBS FOR STUFF LIKE THIS! and yet they leave manual adjustment for steering wheel tilt, it is not adjustable by pushing the button like in A7. Same it goes with controls on the steering wheel, you have to be right on it or you will push the wrong button. Another bad thing is the trim at the bottom of doors feels really cheep and it seams like it will eventually pop out or bent outwards. Now the good things I like: steering wheel is super nice, it feels superb in your hands, even better than A7's felt, ambient lights are cool to and you can adjust it to any color you like. It looks very nice at night in the door panels and around dashboard. A lot of room, seats are comfortable and actually dont feel cheap, Another good thing you can open and close your trunk with foot movement under the bumper, you can also start the car remotely as well so it will be nice in the winter. Also another cool thing when you start your car at night it does little headlight display so it is entertaining to watch it from inside the car and you also have LED stripe across the entire front bumper. So overall I do not thing it is worth 49k, I also thing that engine is way too small for that car, it should have been at least V6 or perhaps inline 5 with supercharger, the car should have minimum of 300hp, it actually handles desent so no changes there. The only reason I got it because I wanted something brand new and German so I can have varanty till I pay it off and then I can buy brand new Audi. I would give 6/10 for this car overall score, it could definitely been better with few things, but it is much much better than a lot of other VW models.
You can toggle the safety systems via the digital dashboard w/ the steering wheel controls. You can use an OBD Eleven to turn on Adaptive Lane Assist, which makes the system so much better. I do not know why VW does not activate it for the American market.
Worth noting that discounts here in the Seattle area of both the mid-trim SEL R-Line and the top trim SEL Premium R-Line are currently discounted by $6000 or more. That brings the transaction price of the R-Line with optional AWD down to that of a fully loaded top trim Honda Accord and a bit less than a Camry XSE with a V6 engine, neither of which offer AWD. At $42,000, the top trim SEL Premium is only slightly more than a top trim Camry.
Just guessing that compare to my 18 golf r. On the left stock there's a button on the outside tip. Click it. Brings a menu up. Turn off lane keep.
Amazing content
Just so you are aware… you can access lane assist within the steering wheel buttons. You can turn it on and off through there.
Lane keeping assist can be easily accessed if you press the Turn Signal lever. You have an physical button and you have all the assist option on the digital cluster. You don’t have to go thru the menu at all
You can click the button on the end of the turn signal to quickly access your assist systems
Fun fact about the Arteon is it was actually manufactured in Germany!
actually it was not, it was just assembled in Germany, engine is Hungary, transmission is Japan, US/Canada part content is 1%, Germany part content is only 45%!
You can set it on your DD using your wheel buttons, i had the same problem but played around and sorted it
I really love this vw!!!
Amazing car . tons of torque
Bro, the user manual is supposed to be in that "something going on up there" slot in the glovebox.
no, because you cant open it. That is the first thing I thought too with mine. I bought mine brand new with 60 miles on it (standard after factory) and the user manual was tucked in between seats.
@@Vedad24 interesting. I've used two quite new vw golfs and they both have similar slot which is perfect for the user manual
@@Pekesh90 Yeah it looks like it would be perfect fit but there is no way to open it. I found that really odd.
@@Vedad24 Checking in here, I picked up my brand new Arteon last Saturday, exactly the same as this car here, I cannot fathom what that part of the glovebox is for. It also has what looks like a rotary temperature dial in there as well. Can't find anything in the handbooks to point to what it is.
I think the biggest problem with this car is that the interior is too similar to all the other VWs, even those that cost half as much. Hard to justify close to $50k when it shares half of its interior with a Jetta or Golf. But it’s beautiful and I hope they keep producing it.
Great review comparing the positives with the negatives, pricing and other car comparisons.
I see the Arteon compared to the Audi A5 a lot. Now, I may represent just a small percentage of shoppers with 2 young kids in car seats, but with this in mind, the A5 can not even be considered in the conversation. The difference in rear seat leg room is a full 5 inches!! The Arteon even has a 3" advantage on the A7. The folks out there who are familiar with how massive rear facing car seats are understand.
Must be a new mode, never seen that kind of vw interior.
One thing to note is that this has the IS38 2.0t like the Golf R and S3 meaning with something like a JB4 you're near 350hp. Audi A4 and A5 only have the IS20 turbo like the GTI.
Great in between luxury/mainstream Car!
I can't wait to lease that car!
Loved the random Doug DeMuro shout out. 😅
You can push the little asisst button on the indicator lever then its off.
When are the honk tests coming in?
Really weird how the lane keep and safety stuff is buried in a menu now. In my 2020 GLI there's a button on the steering wheel that goes directly to it.
Oh yeah and the gauge illumination being in the infotainment is annoying. I miss how it was a dial in my GTI.
Is the optical disc player still retained inside the glove compartment? Camera was moving too fast......
i’m just waiting for you to drive a hellcat on the channel LMAOAO
😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let's take it for a spin ,next thing smoked tiers
He has
@@Pantallideth94 wasn’t it a scat pack tho
@@rajarafe8736 type in topher hellcat
How does this compare to the Regal GS? Looking for a new commuter car (mostly highway)
10:17 THAT HAS GOT TO BE THE MOST FACTUAL THING IVE EVER HEARD, my brother had a 2013 a4 that dude ALWAYS had it tilted and it bugged the life outta me
Couldn't agree more, I have a Polo and every time someone changes the volume using the nob, I adjust it so it's straight up and use the steering wheel buttons to put the volume back to where they changed it.
I really want one of these cars but the price is just very steep and there's no sport model in the US so I can see why there not all over the place but I'm still considering to pick on up soon
Definitely now worth. Probably if they have priced around 35k, would have been great
The problem with VAG cars is that they're all made from the same parts bins using different marques to carpet bomb every price point from SKODA/SEAT to Audi. You described the problem perfectly, at the upper price brackets for VW, you might aswell buy the Audi equivalent.
Absolutely LOVE mine. Picked up last Saturday, same car but black. I agree with a few things Topher said but I disagree about the sound system. It sounds fantastic once you play around with the settings. Transmission is fine too. Ignore the price. You can get them under MSRP. I got a great deal.
Do you still love yours a year later?
I totally agree with your dislikes about it . I literally have the same compliments about it
That compartment under the temperature controls is a wireless charger.
I haven’t driven anything than a VW since 2009. 🤔 That was my first VW. I’d love a truck but dam, they’re too costly. VW’s are awesome.
It’s basically a longer Golf R. I guess if you like longer cars then it’s a good option, though I think the R is cooler and plenty functional.
Do the steering touch buttons work with gloves?
I don't know what VW is thinking with the new generation vehicles... touch screens everywhere
Topher. Which sounds better; HK or Fender audio?
The shift looks like last gen's Porsche 911 991
Does the rear view cameras also allow the option of the top down view as well when in reverse.... like a split screen like the Infiniti? I’ve only seen the basic rear camera turn on when in reverse on videos.
theres a 360" view
So you would definitely take the TLX SHWD advance over this even with the small back seat, no spare, and less cargo room?
There is supposed to be a 300hp version of the Arteon coming soon…
The smiley face can’t be unseen
i really like wagon arteon, nicest on market
Great car
I own a 2013 Volkswagen CC and the Arteon is an upgrade to the CC (but from a A3 to A5) the turbo lag is normal I'm not sure why they continue to deal with this in the new model but it didn't happen a lot in the CC which was quite annoying but one thing you need to test out there is a sport mode just drop the gear down to the S and you're going to be impressed .
I had a b7 Passat. I miss it, but the oil consumption was just too much.
@@85funnyguy Exactly it will eat your oil up so I keep it in economy mode for long distance driving
Sounds like it has more road noise than expected?
2023 adds 30hp for a total over 300hp and also adds DSG. Basically it's a Golf R in a fastback body. Has the same 2.0T 7DSG 4MOTION.
Do a tune with the 2021 and you’re over 300hp easy
which sound system is better? this arteon or mazda3?
(08:43) - (08:48) The way that red Jeep teleported was pretty cool.
Be thankful he edited out his farts. What is he supposed to do, NOT order Chipotle bowl?
@@BoopSnoot That works too.
I blame lag.
That's actually VW's old interior tech. The one that still worked properly 🤣
It’s not old interior tech it’s got car 2x it can communicate to other Volkswagens
I think it's the sweet spot. The newer VW's, notably the Mk8 Golf, are moving to capacitive-touch or touch-slider controls. I like that the infotainment and tech in this car still has volume and fan speed controls that are physical. I own a 2020 GLI, and it mostly is carry-over from the Mk7 Golf but has been re-skinned and re-arranged a bit. It's actually quite similar to what is in the Arteon - however, I actually get a steering-wheel button to turn off safety stuff since I have an older-style steering wheel.
My 21 Arteon does the same thing with the vented seat. It turns on by itself if I get out of the car and back in and start up within like 15 minutes. It's weird
Will it ever shut up with warning noises whenever you open the door or touch a button? It would be pretty annoying for me.
That’s a beautiful vehicle. Looks like an Audi with a VW badge!
It's also similarly priced, would much rather have an Audi. This model makes no sense.
@@a1staksauce Just for the Audi badge lol
@@ATH-camChannelwithNoName have you been in the A5? The materials are much nicer, the tech is better, more luxury features and not for that much more. You have to be dumb to get an arteon.
@@a1staksauce Obviously lol. I’m just joking
@@a1staksauce Looking at spec comparisons, I think there is a case for the Arteon in that it has the interior space of an A7 for cheaper than an A5. I’d still get the A5 over the Arteon, but my perspective is that of a single male that uses his back seat maybe twice a year. I could see Arteon being more appealing for someone who could use the backseat.
I have a 17 passat and the volume knob kills me too.
Outside is awesome but inside is just ok. But overall is a really good product.
Just bought my wife a 2021 for her birthday i hope she likes it
were you cruising in minnnesota bro ?
does this same car have LED lightnings in interior
(08:13) The way you said “car” was pretty funny
So the lane assist menu doesnt come up in the dash with your steering wheel controls anymore?
yes it does
Does the U.S get the shooting brake version?
Can you at least turn off lane keep assist with voice commands?
All these "assists" combined with touch screens are so much more dangerous than not having them, or at least have some physical controls you can memorise. It's madness.
Is this better than Avalon or Maxima? I still can’t wrap my head around your statement that GTI is better than Arteon. GTI is two segments lower.
Really nice car how much is it please
Why don't more brands make sedans that open like hatchbacks? (or hatchbacks that look like sedans, if you prefer)