You used Tanya’s seeking guidance dash wrong. It’s literally the forward forward dash that gets buffed and she also gets access to the MKX up teleport. Also the teleport always hits as an anti air
I’m using her with Stryker so I can get more 50 50’s you can def combo into Stryker grenades but u have to adjust the timing, I also tried her with Jax and his grab combos very easy after drill but not a big fan of lack of low mix. But ground pound plus her Tarzan kick allows you to get alot of chip damage into unblock able pretty safely.
The teleport after her buff isn’t the dash they referred to in the move list. You can dash cancel by using normal attacks instead of blocking with Tanya when she’s buffed
I main tanya, I don't consider her to be super strong or anything by any means, but I feel that you are missing a lot of things about her: - Yes, her damage is low, because she is not supposed to have high damage. She has crazy range with her 3, and even her F2 mid is really good range. She'd be S+++ if she'd be able to deal 430+ dmg along with her range. - Yes, she may not work that well with Sareena (even though she can go over 400dmg with double Sareena), but this is again nothing special. Many characters don't work with Sareena. Tanya works best with Goro, so far. With Goro, not only that her armor becomes +12 on block, but she can also extend it and deal over 200dmg (not bad for an armor wake-up). - She can easily charge-up her buff after a hard knock-down or even while pressuring. You can easily do F2 - charge - F211 - charge or anything along the lines of that. The charge acts like a cancel, similar to the parry of kotal kahn in mk11, as it's really fast. I never felt the charge to be tedious or anythin. - Having the charge up at all times is NOT a requirement, but rather an extra option. There are times when you'd rather stay at distance against certain characters, and the dash will not even help you that much, you're better off playing keep-away. - Yes, the opponent can duck under you 3. But that's where the mid comes into play. Your F2 has about half the range of your 3. They will want to duck your 3, and that gives you easy access to open the opponent with a dash F2, - Her parry is quite lacking, yeah, I'm not seeing it used too much. But again, that does not define a character. If anything, it's again just an extra option. These being said, I don't consider tanya to be weak, but maybe she could use a little buff to be closer to the big top characters. However, if buffed too much, she could easily take over as her kit is strong. Also, as a note, I feel that in your videos you could include learning from other players. At the moment, Dragon is playing a pretty damn solid Tanya against other top players and he's having success with her. If you'd watch at least 10 minutes of Dragon playing Tanya you'd understand the character 5 times better than doing the in-game combo trials. Fun Fact: Ashrah is really close to tanya, playstyle-wise. She also has a long-range high and higher damage (can get closer to 400 dmg with ease), but she lacks a good mid and proper zoning tools (Tanya's projectile really isn't that bad). I mained ashrah before tanya, and when I discovered tanya I happily traded the extra damage for extra tools.
I love this. And I agree. She needs only a few adjustments and she’ll be super solid. Would love her drill to be a low or even become low using a meter. This adds more mixup potential for her. I avoid using drill unless it’s via combo Bc it’s super punishable. I think her parry and charge should be used more by the players interchangeably. When you start to use both skills, opponents begin to become more defensive. Sometimes they think you’re charging so they’ll try to attack you and you’re actually doing the parry and vice versa. Her parry is best during some wakeups but mainly during short strings especially if they are blocked. The only thing to worry about are characters who’s combos start with lows. A good opponent will clock it eventually.
I honestly think her parry is kinda dirty lol Parries throws, anything mid and high. Having it be weak to lows and jump ins/overheads is pretty fair. One of the best times to use it for me is in the corner or you being cornered where you they’re gonna mashing you. It almost always catches them off guard cuz only thing you gotta guess in that situation is if they’re mixing you low lol
Tanya is really good. Keep an eye on Dragon. He is playing her with Goro. Remember that I said she was good. You are gonna start to see her show up real soon. She is gonna take time to properly develop.
I did a little trial with Tanya to get an idea of how she works, mostly because there was a daily mission that says "enter practice mode 5 times" so I decided to give a few characters a little overview. Her B2 alone can be used as a combo extender because it works like a boomerang and, to my surprise, her F4 can be followed up with her B2 for a short meterless combo. Still Tanya's damage is pretty low and while her parry does charge her glowing disk after a successful block, it needs a good reason to spend a bar for the push unless you are able to act immediately after the parry with a forward dash.
Bb2 can be followed up with the 3 overhead OR 2, 1+3 for a basic combo or full combo with 1 meter used. Also great for anti airs at very long distances.
I like how they finally gave Tanya a unique weapon there's not anything stolen from other characters in the series. Also like the energy aspects of her moves and projectiles instead of fire stuff characters using fire are over used and more combat and need something else.
She had a hunting boomerang on MK4, exclusive to her. Boomerangs are/were used as weapons by Australian natives and hunters nowadays. Don't ignore stuff for your convenience.
@@redacted2275”don’t ignore stuff for your convenience” do y’all really how y’all be sounding over a fucking game?😂 no one remembers that ducking boomerang
Tanya has had a very rough path through MK1, first her design that a lot of people didn't like and now that she is very weak in competitive but to be honest I still like her and I hope she gets the improvments she deserves.
@@LastPrimeGaming So black women who do not look like her are not “true” black women? Talk about being accidentally racist and utterly offensive. Anyway, there are pretty women in every race that everyone can like. There are also not so good looking people in every race that most people aren’t going to identify as pretty. Tanya happens to be the not so pretty category where most people do not see it as an attractive design.
@@LastPrimeGaming Her new design does not disappoint me but I prefer the previous one. Also, not all black people that have African ancestry have to have that style. Her previous Egyptian ethnicity looked better in my opinion.
@@eufrosniad994 the point Tanya been melanin so as a stated people don’t like how she originally look because before weave their hair was like that I stand on what I said
all they need to do to make her better in my opinion is the ability to teleport shouldn't have a meter burn and you shouldn't have to charge to use the ability
and certainly more DAMAGE my god.. she doesn't do any damage and it's frustrating to have a raiden deal 50% while i struggle to reach 35% with a kameo and meter spent
I think her teleport needs fine tuning. Sometimes I’m ported behind the enemy, other times I remain in front of the enemy. It’s quite frustrating. I know they’re limiting tanya Bc of how her teleport was super busted in MKX. I don’t mind the meter burn for teleport to damage. Bc I like to mix up the regular and meter versions to trip up opponents.
Say UnderDawg you mind if you go more in-depth about the various Kameo? Cause I have NOT seen any videos where anyone talk about what makes each one unique and I think that would be really helpful. Also I hear you can Meter-burn some Kameo Moves. In example I hear you can Meter-Burn Jax grab but also you can Meter-burn Cyrax’s too. Can all Kameos be enhanced?
i've paired Tanya with Frost. Her standing 3 max range into Frost's ground freeze will combo.. FROM MAX range. At max range, it's also unpunishable, unless you're playing someone like Liu Kang or Mileena that have specials that can punish. F,2,1,1,2 -> the last option is an overhead; Frost's ground freeze is a low; this gives her a bit of a mixup. It's really all about experiment and trying out the right kameo's. Personally, I don't think her teleport dash should require installs and wish she had her old split kick as an overhead for a mixup.
MK1 looks more and more inciting when I watch these videos. I'm very much not afraid to be beaten because I play a Low tier and this character seems interesting to me. Good work.
Great video! I’ve been tryna play as her and I’ve been finding it pretty difficult but idk anything about frames and all. ANYWAY. PLEASE look at Shang tsung and shujinko, they have some of the weirdest potential in the game. you could use Shang Tsung to become the other fighter, while shujinko copies the other fighters special moves as well, you could just completely combo someone using their own move set as a kameo and your own. Just insanely interesting to me.
Tanya move set is different you have too really practice with her to know her combo set and she has good reach with her staff like ashra and baraka it honestly depends on the player and there are so many old school fughters coming back there's better mains
Me personally I’m 40-16 in kombat league with Tanya 😂 and a few of those losses were cause of black screen. I wouldn’t say she’s as bad as everyone makes her out to be cause I haven’t lost many sets with Tanya and she’s easy for me to play. But hopefully they buff her more if everyone thinks she’s bad lol 😂
I came to here as a Jade replacement, I like her huge toolkit and the fact that not many are overly familiar with her options helps. She needs a bit more damage and she will be fine. When it comes to Kameo usage, they player has the choice to use Kameo as Kombo extender or to make some of her unsafe specials/moves safer. The second one seems a better option. So in summary she doesn't need a buff, she is fine, around mid tier for this game.
tanya is so overlooked in this game it’s actually unbelievable, she has arguably one of the best neutral games, possibly the best mid in the game, crazy staggers and decent combo damage and on top of all that really good chip damage. her spinning dash thing is full screen, her projectile enhanced eats other projectiles, there’s so much to this character. with her insane mid and ridiculous range i highly suggest you try this character out i easily got grandmaster with this character
Do you think they will have kotal kahn back I mean mileena mention him in a intro diolouge as him now being the general and named droped in the story also there is ermac reptile in the game and ferra as a kameo and general shao is no longer general of outworld and like you said last video all the ending might be true I think the next dlc story mode if there is a story mode I think will be a civil war in out world with kotals army back?
Totally heard he was gonna be a stance fighter this time, got a standing stance and the infamous wheelchair stance, yeaaaa that wheelchair stance is gonna be OP
Tanya is a solid defensive ranged character. Using the right cameo can make her harder to approach. Also the forward 4, you can combo that to many things. I agree on the damage buff.
@@_slyphI think Goro is best. He’s great at adding plus frames to all of her strings and specials on block. Some will think it’s their turn on certain strings and it’s not. He’s also great with mixups. You may get an opponent who crouch blocks a lot! Goro has a move that launches crouching opponents (or during aground string). I like using it if players start to read my b344. And stay blocking low.
same, but it's what they did to her personality I hate the most, I could live with her redesign and ugly hairstyle, and even live with the fact the ruined her playstyle giving her no low or overhead specials when that was her iconic feature since her introduction in MK4... But I just can't get over what they did to her personality, she went from being one of the most charming and likeable characters to super unlikeable.
I think they altered her completely different in terms of gameplay! She has no tonfas, no pyromancer powers, no split kick! She has new moves, weapon and magic and that’s a shame….Other than her drill kick nothing is like Tanya we knew and loved! I do like her gameplay but that’s not Tanya…her design on the other hand is perfect for her as a black woman!
It’s hard out here being a Tanya main. She has a great mid but she’s only a whiff punish character. You’re not opening up anyone who’s good at the game with her pressure
@@chaosgamer7348why would you take any risks with her? Amazing mid great staggers and cyra xlets her get the buff Inbetween f211 and she is still plus after. And f2 being forwarded advancing gives her awesome neutral. She is very good :D
I spent time learning Tanya’s combos and tbh it is very tough opening up enemies with her readable start up combos. Raiden Johnny cage and smoke spank me so many different fast attacks but Tanya still spanks I’m 9-2 rn in KL
I miss the days where fighting games weren't all about frame data and tournaments. It was fun going to the local arcade to play MK2 or SF2 and not worry about crap like that. But that was 30+ years ago, so I must be old.
I agree, I just watch most of these videos on mute. I love the action of the game, the graphics are beautiful. The technical talk turns me off completely.
Right. But she can combo from almost full screen. I put her w/ Frost and convert 30-34% off every touch into oki and/or Frost ball corner pressure. She's not bad, just unorthodox.
No she can't. Dash cancel standing 3 is the longest range normal in the game by a wide margin. With her buff up, it's hitting from 8/10 of a screen away and is special cancelable into a full combo on hit. On block the teleport gives you stagger pressure and mix. Pair that with frost kameo and you have a 50/50 cuz if you neutral duck the standing 3, you risk getting combo'd by the low frost kameo. If you say that other characters have better strengths/gameplans, I agree with you. But nobody does what she does better than she does.
@@MiketheNerdRanger listen if they buff her thats fine because thats my main but if she gets any significant buff she will be top 5 and one of the most annoying characters to play against.
@@kinte476when did u start your Tanya frost team I’ve been doing it since the game released and I’ve never ran into another Tanya frost only Tanya and Serena u probably fought me and took my whole flow
"for anyone not aware, the frame data in the move list is completely wrong" Wait, really? Dang, for Tanya or for everyone? If it's wrong for everyone then I'm in trouble lol, I've been using that so much as a frame of reference
Can you say again in another video how realy awful is the 'kombo menu'? Shao Kahn has all start-up wrong (at least on pc). Also, Havik has some realy looong numbers on the damage. As you said on previous videos, they kinda rush the game to release on date. You worked with animations and 3D design, you know how hard is to fix or to do something in a rush. I'm a programmer, I also know this kinda pressure, if they left that behind, it's because they had to fix something realy bad. But they also know that the fighting game players seek first this informations.
Just in case anyone still thinks “Terrible Tanya” is bad, I’m Grandmaster rank in Kombat League with Tanya and Jax. W/L 46-17 🔥 15 game win streak in KL. Ranked #914 in the world on Xbox
I seen dragon using tanya vs sonic foxs raiden video and even sonic foxs thumbnails says shes cooking him lol,dragon used goro as her tag partner and he was doing some amazing stuff with the two characters
A tanya just got 9th at CEOTaku lol. I don't think she's bad she's just "boring" to some I guess. I also feel that a lot of people are super deep into and blinded by the low hanging fruit that is "damage" in this game. Eventually damage and REAL dirty stuff will get nerfed or changed and you're just left with mostly neutral, resets, solid damage and fundamental play and a lot of folks won't know what to do when their "combo doesn't kill". She's not bad, just not in the current common "meta" yet aka damage
i love tanya but it’s so frustrating playing her when all you’re doing is hitting people that block cause she has 0 mixups and one mid, and then once you do get a combo in it’s unrewarding cause of her low damage
Lots of ways to get the hit with her, actually. I'd suggest you watch Dragon's matches or some of the recent tournaments, like Pluralmite in top 24 of CEOtaku. Goro assist helps a ton.
Tanya in mk11 was GOLD. Even her look was amazing. I love Tanyas look here too, but her moveset was so much better and easier to pull off combos in MK11.
I just beat a baraka and cyrax main in Kombat league. He was 44-15 until he tasted the wrath of my Tanya and Jax alliance. 43-16 but Tanya is “soo bad” apparently 😂
@@_slyph that’s who I started with. Frost is great with Tanya, especially when staggering her forward 2,1,1,2 string which ends in overhead, you could stagger forward 2,1,1 into low freeze for a mind game, while also shortening the string to just forward 2 and grabbing to keep your opponent guessing
@@baconlord_FGC It’s not predictable for Tanya. The window for canceling is odd because you can do it right at the beginning or somewhere near the third hit.
@@ZaryasBestFriend no you can wait as late as the last hit in 11 and still get drill. Just dial the 11 in real fast and you have plenty of time to see if it connects
Holy crap. This was one of the most comprehensive and well made videos I've seen about Tanya. You really hit the nail on the head with her strengths and weaknesses. Big Thumbs up!
I’m not interested in most of the roster with my luck the one person I want to main probably will not be good. I’m pretty excited for Takeda but he’s not even out yet so I’ll probably be playing low tier once again that seems to be my thing.
Tanya has always been one of my hard mains and I’m trying to learn everything i possibly can before I enter real online with her. This is the first game where she isn’t insanely powerful, but she is still hella fun and have a very eye catching dog visual moveset. Sadly people hate black women in video games and Tanya will not be played as much because she isn’t racially ambiguous anymore and isn’t top tier. I have and always will love this character and I’m rocking with her for better or for worse. I wish the female ninjas received the same amount of love as the males. #teamTanya
I sincerely doubt people are avoiding Tanya cause she is black lol geras is getting a ton of love. I personally avoided Tanya cause she’s kind of bitchy, she just isn’t a cool or interesting character.
So P2 combos don't work the same way as the P1 combos, and they can't even get the correct frame data in the move list? What is NRS even doing, goddamn
Ngl I’ve used Tanya and Tanya isn’t bad at all. Her staff is really what u have to use in order to beat your opponent. UPPERCUTS!!! Use those ESPECIALLY with the staff she has
Can you please explain why her F4, (air)2, (air)1, (air)DB4... doesnt work on for example Rain or Khan??? Like what. Ppl tell me to get better. But it works consistent on other opponents. Im going crazy thanks
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Hey dawg, do you hate neck? Why did you crop every single character's neck in your thumbnails?
Buff Prince Rain 👑💜
@@PiccoloNamexio Her neck is all there lol. I just raised her torso up behind her to make it goofy (like the googly eyes)
Why Tanya is terrible
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming do kitana next
You used Tanya’s seeking guidance dash wrong. It’s literally the forward forward dash that gets buffed and she also gets access to the MKX up teleport. Also the teleport always hits as an anti air
She does amazing with goro. My friend uses goro after her drill kick and it makes me watch a cutscene
I’m using her with Stryker so I can get more 50 50’s you can def combo into Stryker grenades but u have to adjust the timing, I also tried her with Jax and his grab combos very easy after drill but not a big fan of lack of low mix. But ground pound plus her Tarzan kick allows you to get alot of chip damage into unblock able pretty safely.
The teleport after her buff isn’t the dash they referred to in the move list. You can dash cancel by using normal attacks instead of blocking with Tanya when she’s buffed
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I main tanya, I don't consider her to be super strong or anything by any means, but I feel that you are missing a lot of things about her:
- Yes, her damage is low, because she is not supposed to have high damage. She has crazy range with her 3, and even her F2 mid is really good range. She'd be S+++ if she'd be able to deal 430+ dmg along with her range.
- Yes, she may not work that well with Sareena (even though she can go over 400dmg with double Sareena), but this is again nothing special. Many characters don't work with Sareena. Tanya works best with Goro, so far. With Goro, not only that her armor becomes +12 on block, but she can also extend it and deal over 200dmg (not bad for an armor wake-up).
- She can easily charge-up her buff after a hard knock-down or even while pressuring. You can easily do F2 - charge - F211 - charge or anything along the lines of that. The charge acts like a cancel, similar to the parry of kotal kahn in mk11, as it's really fast. I never felt the charge to be tedious or anythin.
- Having the charge up at all times is NOT a requirement, but rather an extra option. There are times when you'd rather stay at distance against certain characters, and the dash will not even help you that much, you're better off playing keep-away.
- Yes, the opponent can duck under you 3. But that's where the mid comes into play. Your F2 has about half the range of your 3. They will want to duck your 3, and that gives you easy access to open the opponent with a dash F2,
- Her parry is quite lacking, yeah, I'm not seeing it used too much. But again, that does not define a character. If anything, it's again just an extra option.
These being said, I don't consider tanya to be weak, but maybe she could use a little buff to be closer to the big top characters. However, if buffed too much, she could easily take over as her kit is strong.
Also, as a note, I feel that in your videos you could include learning from other players. At the moment, Dragon is playing a pretty damn solid Tanya against other top players and he's having success with her. If you'd watch at least 10 minutes of Dragon playing Tanya you'd understand the character 5 times better than doing the in-game combo trials.
Fun Fact: Ashrah is really close to tanya, playstyle-wise. She also has a long-range high and higher damage (can get closer to 400 dmg with ease), but she lacks a good mid and proper zoning tools (Tanya's projectile really isn't that bad). I mained ashrah before tanya, and when I discovered tanya I happily traded the extra damage for extra tools.
I love this. And I agree. She needs only a few adjustments and she’ll be super solid. Would love her drill to be a low or even become low using a meter. This adds more mixup potential for her. I avoid using drill unless it’s via combo Bc it’s super punishable.
I think her parry and charge should be used more by the players interchangeably. When you start to use both skills, opponents begin to become more defensive. Sometimes they think you’re charging so they’ll try to attack you and you’re actually doing the parry and vice versa. Her parry is best during some wakeups but mainly during short strings especially if they are blocked. The only thing to worry about are characters who’s combos start with lows. A good opponent will clock it eventually.
I think that he should analyse deeper the character and watch some game beforme making the vidéo. He missed so many things. Great analyses though
I honestly think her parry is kinda dirty lol
Parries throws, anything mid and high. Having it be weak to lows and jump ins/overheads is pretty fair. One of the best times to use it for me is in the corner or you being cornered where you they’re gonna mashing you. It almost always catches them off guard cuz only thing you gotta guess in that situation is if they’re mixing you low lol
Tanya is really good. Keep an eye on Dragon. He is playing her with Goro. Remember that I said she was good. You are gonna start to see her show up real soon. She is gonna take time to properly develop.
Exactly she’s good but doesn’t fit peoples she’s a good whiff punisher
I did a little trial with Tanya to get an idea of how she works, mostly because there was a daily mission that says "enter practice mode 5 times" so I decided to give a few characters a little overview. Her B2 alone can be used as a combo extender because it works like a boomerang and, to my surprise, her F4 can be followed up with her B2 for a short meterless combo. Still Tanya's damage is pretty low and while her parry does charge her glowing disk after a successful block, it needs a good reason to spend a bar for the push unless you are able to act immediately after the parry with a forward dash.
Bb2 can be followed up with the 3 overhead OR 2, 1+3 for a basic combo or full combo with 1 meter used. Also great for anti airs at very long distances.
I like how they finally gave Tanya a unique weapon there's not anything stolen from other characters in the series. Also like the energy aspects of her moves and projectiles instead of fire stuff characters using fire are over used and more combat and need something else.
She had a hunting boomerang on MK4, exclusive to her. Boomerangs are/were used as weapons by Australian natives and hunters nowadays. Don't ignore stuff for your convenience.
@@redacted2275nobody give a shit about Australia lmfao
@@redacted2275 she also had the Kobu Jutsu in deception, Armageddon, and mkx
@@user_666_Tanya has definitely had some of the coolest weapons between her tonfas, naginata and this tri-staff 😃
@@redacted2275”don’t ignore stuff for your convenience” do y’all really how y’all be sounding over a fucking game?😂 no one remembers that ducking boomerang
Tanya has had a very rough path through MK1, first her design that a lot of people didn't like and now that she is very weak in competitive but to be honest I still like her and I hope she gets the improvments she deserves.
Bruh Tanya is black so here design is what a true black woman would look like .
@@LastPrimeGaming exactly racism is running ramped.
@@LastPrimeGaming So black women who do not look like her are not “true” black women? Talk about being accidentally racist and utterly offensive.
Anyway, there are pretty women in every race that everyone can like. There are also not so good looking people in every race that most people aren’t going to identify as pretty. Tanya happens to be the not so pretty category where most people do not see it as an attractive design.
@@LastPrimeGaming Her new design does not disappoint me but I prefer the previous one. Also, not all black people that have African ancestry have to have that style. Her previous Egyptian ethnicity looked better in my opinion.
@@eufrosniad994 the point Tanya been melanin so as a stated people don’t like how she originally look because before weave their hair was like that I stand on what I said
all they need to do to make her better in my opinion is the ability to teleport shouldn't have a meter burn and you shouldn't have to charge to use the ability
Plus more direction on the teleport
and certainly more DAMAGE my god.. she doesn't do any damage and it's frustrating to have a raiden deal 50% while i struggle to reach 35% with a kameo and meter spent
I think her teleport needs fine tuning. Sometimes I’m ported behind the enemy, other times I remain in front of the enemy. It’s quite frustrating. I know they’re limiting tanya Bc of how her teleport was super busted in MKX. I don’t mind the meter burn for teleport to damage. Bc I like to mix up the regular and meter versions to trip up opponents.
Say UnderDawg you mind if you go more in-depth about the various Kameo? Cause I have NOT seen any videos where anyone talk about what makes each one unique and I think that would be really helpful. Also I hear you can Meter-burn some Kameo Moves. In example I hear you can Meter-Burn Jax grab but also you can Meter-burn Cyrax’s too. Can all Kameos be enhanced?
Rooflemonger made a video covering all the kameos
i've paired Tanya with Frost. Her standing 3 max range into Frost's ground freeze will combo.. FROM MAX range. At max range, it's also unpunishable, unless you're playing someone like Liu Kang or Mileena that have specials that can punish. F,2,1,1,2 -> the last option is an overhead; Frost's ground freeze is a low; this gives her a bit of a mixup. It's really all about experiment and trying out the right kameo's.
Personally, I don't think her teleport dash should require installs and wish she had her old split kick as an overhead for a mixup.
MK1 looks more and more inciting when I watch these videos. I'm very much not afraid to be beaten because I play a Low tier and this character seems interesting to me. Good work.
Great video! I’ve been tryna play as her and I’ve been finding it pretty difficult but idk anything about frames and all. ANYWAY. PLEASE look at Shang tsung and shujinko, they have some of the weirdest potential in the game. you could use Shang Tsung to become the other fighter, while shujinko copies the other fighters special moves as well, you could just completely combo someone using their own move set as a kameo and your own. Just insanely interesting to me.
Tanya move set is different you have too really practice with her to know her combo set and she has good reach with her staff like ashra and baraka it honestly depends on the player and there are so many old school fughters coming back there's better mains
For the next video do you think you could do reiko? I don’t think hes horrible but he has some issues
The drill kick needs to be low NOT mid, and she needs a teleport. Otherwise I'm riding with her until they bring Jade back 🥺
Me personally I’m 40-16 in kombat league with Tanya 😂 and a few of those losses were cause of black screen. I wouldn’t say she’s as bad as everyone makes her out to be cause I haven’t lost many sets with Tanya and she’s easy for me to play. But hopefully they buff her more if everyone thinks she’s bad lol 😂
Tanya seemed like she has a decent move set. That air projectile could be powerful
It’s very good
Combo starters suck tho
@@poopbutt6241nah they don’t I use her she’s good
@@JDFlyyno she’s not
@@poopbutt6241 if you say so 😂😂 I play her and currently at grand master rank
Sub zero got nerfed hard
He still has every tool you need. 50/50, zoning, counter zoning, 33% for 1 bar. He’s fine lol
Buff Rain 👑💜
@@JamesPlaysGames-tm5oein the beta sub Zero was anoying as hell so i see why they nerfed it
Finally
That sucks buff Scorpion! 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
I came to here as a Jade replacement, I like her huge toolkit and the fact that not many are overly familiar with her options helps. She needs a bit more damage and she will be fine. When it comes to Kameo usage, they player has the choice to use Kameo as Kombo extender or to make some of her unsafe specials/moves safer. The second one seems a better option. So in summary she doesn't need a buff, she is fine, around mid tier for this game.
Wait huh?? The very first tournament I watched which had titanium tigers (top ranked on MK1 rn). Tanya made it to the finals
this is why i just wait for pros to just comment on it
Yeh I don’t what he is on
@@LawPoppy Tournaments and pros are the best way to learn a character true strengths and weaknesses. That or a true ride or die for that character.
Agreed. Check out K7's list. Much more accurate. @@kingcombo9799
tanya is so overlooked in this game it’s actually unbelievable, she has arguably one of the best neutral games, possibly the best mid in the game, crazy staggers and decent combo damage and on top of all that really good chip damage. her spinning dash thing is full screen, her projectile enhanced eats other projectiles, there’s so much to this character. with her insane mid and ridiculous range i highly suggest you try this character out i easily got grandmaster with this character
her combo damage is anything but decent. It's way below average
@@lam9090 31% for no meter is decent, and 36 with meter is also decent, she has pretty oppressive offense
Do you think they will have kotal kahn back I mean mileena mention him in a intro diolouge as him now being the general and named droped in the story also there is ermac reptile in the game and ferra as a kameo and general shao is no longer general of outworld and like you said last video all the ending might be true I think the next dlc story mode if there is a story mode I think will be a civil war in out world with kotals army back?
i think we can skip this one
@@paulovcg10ong i will be annoying if he takes up a slot
Totally heard he was gonna be a stance fighter this time, got a standing stance and the infamous wheelchair stance, yeaaaa that wheelchair stance is gonna be OP
Tanya is a solid defensive ranged character. Using the right cameo can make her harder to approach. Also the forward 4, you can combo that to many things. I agree on the damage buff.
What’s the best cameo
@@_slyphI think Goro is best. He’s great at adding plus frames to all of her strings and specials on block. Some will think it’s their turn on certain strings and it’s not. He’s also great with mixups. You may get an opponent who crouch blocks a lot! Goro has a move that launches crouching opponents (or during aground string). I like using it if players start to read my b344. And stay blocking low.
@@sjont ok
Tanya is a great character, I just loved the klassic design for her :( was my favorite mkx dlc character
same, but it's what they did to her personality I hate the most, I could live with her redesign and ugly hairstyle, and even live with the fact the ruined her playstyle giving her no low or overhead specials when that was her iconic feature since her introduction in MK4... But I just can't get over what they did to her personality, she went from being one of the most charming and likeable characters to super unlikeable.
She shines mostly in combos and basic attacks. Her range is unmatched and she requires almost 0 meter for heavy combos
She is actually top 5 now if combined with Goro 👍
@@TrueUnderDawgGaming i almost never use Goro, but he does look interesting lol
I think they altered her completely different in terms of gameplay! She has no tonfas, no pyromancer powers, no split kick! She has new moves, weapon and magic and that’s a shame….Other than her drill kick nothing is like Tanya we knew and loved! I do like her gameplay but that’s not Tanya…her design on the other hand is perfect for her as a black woman!
It’s hard out here being a Tanya main. She has a great mid but she’s only a whiff punish character. You’re not opening up anyone who’s good at the game with her pressure
So true smh. She’s high risk, low reward… VERY punishable and the damage isn’t all the way there compared to others.
Tanya is perfect for people who know how to play neutral
I've seen many videos of people dominating with her.
@@chaosgamer7348why would you take any risks with her?
Amazing mid great staggers and cyra xlets her get the buff Inbetween f211 and she is still plus after. And f2 being forwarded advancing gives her awesome neutral. She is very good :D
I spent time learning Tanya’s combos and tbh it is very tough opening up enemies with her readable start up combos. Raiden Johnny cage and smoke spank me so many different fast attacks but Tanya still spanks I’m 9-2 rn in KL
you can also pair tanya with goro and use his up punch to make her spnning kick or drill kick safe
I miss the days where fighting games weren't all about frame data and tournaments. It was fun going to the local arcade to play MK2 or SF2 and not worry about crap like that. But that was 30+ years ago, so I must be old.
The thing is that you still do not have to worry about that. You only need to worry if you are trying to play the game competitively
@@Sergio-wc1wn True, it's more that it seems like the gaming culture has shifted so far in that direction that it all feels foreign to me now
@@schw0373just enjoy the game man! I get your point but at least we can decide how we want to play!
I agree, I just watch most of these videos on mute. I love the action of the game, the graphics are beautiful. The technical talk turns me off completely.
Tanya is not bad at all. She has one of the best neutrals in the game. She just doesn’t do 50 dmg a touch. 😂
Right. But she can combo from almost full screen. I put her w/ Frost and convert 30-34% off every touch into oki and/or Frost ball corner pressure.
She's not bad, just unorthodox.
Well sure, but she needs buffs. She can still be beat in most of those regards by way too many other character and kameo combinations.
No she can't. Dash cancel standing 3 is the longest range normal in the game by a wide margin. With her buff up, it's hitting from 8/10 of a screen away and is special cancelable into a full combo on hit. On block the teleport gives you stagger pressure and mix.
Pair that with frost kameo and you have a 50/50 cuz if you neutral duck the standing 3, you risk getting combo'd by the low frost kameo.
If you say that other characters have better strengths/gameplans, I agree with you. But nobody does what she does better than she does.
@@MiketheNerdRanger listen if they buff her thats fine because thats my main but if she gets any significant buff she will be top 5 and one of the most annoying characters to play against.
@@kinte476when did u start your Tanya frost team I’ve been doing it since the game released and I’ve never ran into another Tanya frost only Tanya and Serena u probably fought me and took my whole flow
Tanya might be bad but remember how many times my boy Reiko has been beaten up in the campain
I just need you talk about my boy Scorpion. I’m seeing allot of people say he’s not that different from MK11 but he doesn’t have his swords.
"for anyone not aware, the frame data in the move list is completely wrong" Wait, really? Dang, for Tanya or for everyone? If it's wrong for everyone then I'm in trouble lol, I've been using that so much as a frame of reference
The frame data on the move list screen is unreliable, but the frame data from the display in the corner is accurate, weirdly enough
Can you say again in another video how realy awful is the 'kombo menu'? Shao Kahn has all start-up wrong (at least on pc). Also, Havik has some realy looong numbers on the damage. As you said on previous videos, they kinda rush the game to release on date. You worked with animations and 3D design, you know how hard is to fix or to do something in a rush. I'm a programmer, I also know this kinda pressure, if they left that behind, it's because they had to fix something realy bad. But they also know that the fighting game players seek first this informations.
It baffles me that in mkx Tanya is one of the best characters to play with. How is she going to suck on this game but 2 games back she was fun
Cause devs realised how op she was and had to change her completely
Just in case anyone still thinks “Terrible Tanya” is bad, I’m Grandmaster rank in Kombat League with Tanya and Jax. W/L 46-17 🔥 15 game win streak in KL. Ranked #914 in the world on Xbox
I just realized I haven't seen a SINGLE video online of Tanya in MK1 until now.
Bro pls make a guide on nitara I’ve been waiting on your guides
She can relaunch on the kick 4 times in the corner back triangle >x >forward triangle > square square > triangle forward grapple low grapple
Some characters have a map advantage depending on how short or long and position in screen I noticed
This game should be popular in India here much people don't know about this game this game can catch level of Marvel and DC
creating smoke raiden Jhonny: always safe
tanya: she's just there
I seen dragon using tanya vs sonic foxs raiden video and even sonic foxs thumbnails says shes cooking him lol,dragon used goro as her tag partner and he was doing some amazing stuff with the two characters
U say that yet dragon won like 2 games out of the like 10 against sonic bsff
A tanya just got 9th at CEOTaku lol. I don't think she's bad she's just "boring" to some I guess. I also feel that a lot of people are super deep into and blinded by the low hanging fruit that is "damage" in this game. Eventually damage and REAL dirty stuff will get nerfed or changed and you're just left with mostly neutral, resets, solid damage and fundamental play and a lot of folks won't know what to do when their "combo doesn't kill". She's not bad, just not in the current common "meta" yet aka damage
I'm currently main-ing Smoke, but i want to pick up anpther one. Who should it be that's not really hard like Kenshi/Shao Khan
Her damage needs to be scaled. Most characters can hit 37%+with one bar she’s barely hitting 31 max
I actually love playing Tanya with scorpion kameo, super fun!
Nobody plays her bc of how they made her look 🥲
i love tanya but it’s so frustrating playing her when all you’re doing is hitting people that block cause she has 0 mixups and one mid, and then once you do get a combo in it’s unrewarding cause of her low damage
Lots of ways to get the hit with her, actually. I'd suggest you watch Dragon's matches or some of the recent tournaments, like Pluralmite in top 24 of CEOtaku. Goro assist helps a ton.
Fax she’s ass lol
Looking at Reptile, his acid spit is weird too. Surprise enhanced does not leave acid on the floor.
Trust me, none of MK1 fighters is bad, each one is sick at his/her own way, but none is bad.
Buff Tanya's grill to match the face model. Then give her some moves
She needs help but she's actually not that bad. And can be played very safely. You also misunderstood her teleport
Buff scorpion , he needs an overhead or his 3 kicks back that lead to his opener .
As someone who mains Kitana, she needs a buff. She has the most pretty combos I’ve seen her have in ages and that shit does not do damage
After this video please search for the Mortal Kombat 4 Tanya! She really is so much better. 🙂
Still better than sup-zero dmg
5.MK Deadly Alliance 4.MK Trilogy 3.MK Armageddon 2.MK11 1.MK1 this was hard to do😅
Tanya is good I love her play set.
I'd like to know if Shang Tsung terrific or terrible.
Definitely terrific but if you corner Shang you can bully him
Buff Rain 👑💜
I wouldn't be surprised if the game gets a pass in two to four weeks giving some improvements to a few characters.
Tanya is amazing some folks suck at using her that’s all
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Ashrah: "Hold my beer"
Sangue frio just won a tourney with Tanya in Brazil
Dragon went to grand finals with Tanya as well
The way I'd never struggle if Underdawg ever did get hired by NeatherRealm lmao
Please buff sub zero,what the hell,his mix up isnt real,damage is crap,clone cool down is crazy,he needs some love.
Because Ed Boon and his team aren't fans of Sub-Zero.
Tanya in mk11 was GOLD. Even her look was amazing. I love Tanyas look here too, but her moveset was so much better and easier to pull off combos in MK11.
You mean mkx?
@@megbro10 MKX, yes. Thank you.
@@SnoopVee I totally agree with your comment though!!
Baraka is s tier. Do him next please
Guess my main Tanya looking reworked come tomorrow!
Finally it’s back!
I beg of you to try to stagger f2. there are more types of mixups in the game then just overheads and lows
Let’s be honest, some of y’all are only putting Tanya at the bottom because y’all are racist. I said what I said.
Who would make a good Kameo for her? I been using goro but I think it's time for a change lol
This Tanya skin is so cool!
So that merer burn drill kick can get that air combo but youll have to meter burn jump just to get uo there!
I’d recommend making her drill projectile invincible
Glad to see this is back
I just beat a baraka and cyrax main in Kombat league. He was 44-15 until he tasted the wrath of my Tanya and Jax alliance. 43-16 but Tanya is “soo bad” apparently 😂
It was 3-1 btw
What her best cameo
@@_slyph right now her best Kameos are Goro, Jax, and Frost. I have to experiment more with subzero, scorpion, cyrax, and sektor kameos
@@tomaealtair I’m using frost now
@@_slyph that’s who I started with. Frost is great with Tanya, especially when staggering her forward 2,1,1,2 string which ends in overhead, you could stagger forward 2,1,1 into low freeze for a mind game, while also shortening the string to just forward 2 and grabbing to keep your opponent guessing
all they need to do is make her forward 2,1 1 easier to hit confirm into a special and she'll be alright
This. The timing on the drill kick feels very unpredictable. Seems like I have to commit to it from the start or do it on a whiff punish.
it's already a very easy hit confirm
@@baconlord_FGC So you do it right after the first hit then?
@@baconlord_FGC It’s not predictable for Tanya. The window for canceling is odd because you can do it right at the beginning or somewhere near the third hit.
@@ZaryasBestFriend no you can wait as late as the last hit in 11 and still get drill. Just dial the 11 in real fast and you have plenty of time to see if it connects
Maybe you should have spent a little more time with the character before hitting record lol. This is kind of a nothing video.
Holy crap. This was one of the most comprehensive and well made videos I've seen about Tanya.
You really hit the nail on the head with her strengths and weaknesses. Big Thumbs up!
Tanya just appeared on CEOtaku top 24!
I’m not interested in most of the roster with my luck the one person I want to main probably will not be good. I’m pretty excited for Takeda but he’s not even out yet so I’ll probably be playing low tier once again that seems to be my thing.
Tanya has always been one of my hard mains and I’m trying to learn everything i possibly can before I enter real online with her. This is the first game where she isn’t insanely powerful, but she is still hella fun and have a very eye catching dog visual moveset. Sadly people hate black women in video games and Tanya will not be played as much because she isn’t racially ambiguous anymore and isn’t top tier. I have and always will love this character and I’m rocking with her for better or for worse. I wish the female ninjas received the same amount of love as the males. #teamTanya
I sincerely doubt people are avoiding Tanya cause she is black lol geras is getting a ton of love.
I personally avoided Tanya cause she’s kind of bitchy, she just isn’t a cool or interesting character.
new tanya wishes she had these levels of reach
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Do Reiko next!
So P2 combos don't work the same way as the P1 combos, and they can't even get the correct frame data in the move list? What is NRS even doing, goddamn
Ngl I’ve used Tanya and Tanya isn’t bad at all. Her staff is really what u have to use in order to beat your opponent. UPPERCUTS!!! Use those ESPECIALLY with the staff she has
Her buff also gives her more range
Didn't look like it did when I tried it. I stood at a range where her standing 3 just missed, activated the buff, and it still misses.
@@SuperJJParker dash cancel with an attack
Revetleafing and dragon play her really well
Can you please explain why her F4, (air)2, (air)1, (air)DB4... doesnt work on for example Rain or Khan??? Like what. Ppl tell me to get better. But it works consistent on other opponents. Im going crazy thanks
It's weird to hear that it doesn't work on those characters, but the combo you should be doing is F4, F4, dahs, 2, 1+3, into special ender.
Dw ppl, remember what happened to Shao Kahn in MK11, She could the be the most broken characacter in the future :)
Tbh i thought the poll was about the character as a character not her gameplay
Someone people don't know how to use her she's my go to character
Plus ive been seeing her in tier list for people saying shes s plus tier
I saw people put geras, but that man is NOT bad. Hes got some major dirt
Umm So you havent seen Dragon's Tanya??
So far who are the least played characters in MK1 besides Tanya?
Havik and Reiko