There's a fascinating article in The Economist about Eileen Gu, the Winter Olympic champ who suddenly decided to compete for China instead of the U.S., despite being raised and living in the United States. She's a vocal BLM supporter and advocate for female empowerment, but refuses to even mention, let alone criticize, a single one of China's many human rights violations, past and present. And corporate sponsors are pouring in. She was already the third highest earning female athlete before winning her first Olympic gold this week.
I saw her gold medal performance live. Every time the camera pans to Eileen the American announcer is saying: Eileen Gu, the San Francisco born skiier now representing China to help promote winter sports for young woman in China. Not sure why they need to prop up her presence for representing another country, when we all know that it's about the money.
A vocal BLM supporter? BLM thinks communism is awesome. The founders have publicly stated they are "trained Marxists". Of course all that comradship went out the window when the 90 million dollars from naive liberals came pouring in. No one knows where the money even is. Based on personal experience with a grassroots Marxist organization, they are either buying guns or frittering it away on themselves. Probably both.
Sounds like your typical leftist grifter a$$hole. I hope she is never allowed to return to America. Those who give up (at least some form of) liberty for rampant and blatant authoritarianism should pay the price.
"racism," "vaccine," "homophobic," there are countless words in the US dictionary that have been radically changed from their original meaning in the name of political correctness. The woke culture is one of the most dangerous things facing America right now. Kudos to Mr. Weiwei. I just bought his book.
Vaccine is still a vaccine, but otherwise you're right. There was a transwoman interviewed a while back who said that men who don't date her are transphobic...
If you unironically think that 'woke culture' is one of the most dangerous things facing the US, I can't take you seriously. The culture war is a manufactured distraction built around social constructs like race and identity to distract from class war.
@@ucuniversity2869freedom is the upholding of the Bill of Rights. The First Amendment of free speech and press, the Fourth Amendment of the right to privacy, etc. Nowadays neither side, rich or poor, have freedom.
Something a lot of people do not understand about this mans father Ai Ching is that in china, poetry is deeply connected to politics, warfare and statecraft. It is a cultural force. So there is a deeply culturally traditional element about the art and about his story. It connects into the deep roots of chinese classical history.
I'm glad Ai makes the point that authoritarianism can exist in democracies. Much of the discourse on authoritarianism in Western democracies treats "democracy" and "authoritarianism" as antonyms, with the implication being that democracy in and of itself is anti-authoritarian. In reality, it's more accurate to think of "dictatorship" as the opposite of "democracy," as both are systems of government, whereas authoritarianism is more of a philosophy or a practice than a particular system. As such, authoritarianism can exist under any system, whether it is a democracy, dictatorship or anything else.
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I loved my visitation to his exposition in Brazil, even made several university essays about him and China. What a great artist he is, a courageous genius.
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Ironically it was a friend of mine who later went off to College and got brainwashed into being a hardcore SJW that put Ai Weiwei on my radar I think she has since forgot he exists.
@@bryanitza-chulopez1658 Don't tell me what I mean -- I mean what I wrote. "A police state describes a state where its government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties." - Wikipedia
@@jdinhuntsvilleal4514 he must have been born after the L.A. riots that erupted when the cops who beat Rodney King were acquitted. The ones that mention BLM usually support the police state.
@@bryanitza-chulopez1658 The majority of police are willing to suppress innocent citizens if they are asked to. It's happening in cities throughout the western world. They are perfectly willing to comply with tyranny.
I have a couple feelings about what he said: - Regarding the racial divide in prisons, this is complicated and definitely cannot be compared to, say, the Uighur situation. Economic well being is a pretty universal indicator as to whether or not someone ends up in prison. Generational wealth (or a lack thereof) is a major factor, but I'd say the #1 factor is schooling not preparing a large number of AA for climbing the social ladder. - Regarding PC curbing political speech, yes. Yes it does. It's not to the point of China yet but at this point, the left seems to have a "with us or against us" mentality. We libertarians belong to the center, but the left lumps the center in with the right. Sometimes we even end up compared with the far right, which is a tactic to instill fear of being called certain names. PC is a dangerous road to go down, and I take what Ai said as a warning. We need to have the mental constitution to resist their attacks and be the ones to define ourselves.
A Libertarian who thinks that (presumably public) schooling is what makes a person capable of improving their own lives or not? And that if they don't, and turn to predatory criminality, this is the fault of the (public) schooling? Interesting sort of Libertarian.
Let's just speak truth... Crime statistics show what Skin Color Group has the highest Criminal element. Who would you expect to be in prison? Such statistics are never mentioned, and will soon disappear. They don't match the official "narrative" Should Wt people be put in prison to provide for equality of outcomes.
@@23wtb It's a statistical indicator. I'm an individualist but I believe that schooling in general tends to poorly prepare people for the real world. The quality of schools have a macro statistical impact on success. If I were to take this concept to extremes, you're probably not going to get any millionaires coming from uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. What makes a libertarian is not ignoring society's impact on success, it's defining how much government should get involved. (edit: for the record, I'm for school choice)
@@reasonablespeculation3893 True, however there is a vital distinction to be made here. Based on American Black's past successes, despite discrimination, the overwhelming evidence for their modern lack of successes points towards welfare as the cause, and discredits any sort of argument promoting racial inferiority. This welfare culture is now growing in all US racial groups, and we will all pay the price for it.
The odd thing in America is we have a provision in our constitution to legally do something about it. But, those who most admire that provision also support the authoritarian apparatus.
See I don't think you should be banned for that, partly because it then people like me get an opportunity to explain that grouping people up by some physical trait is wrong, whether you're a woke racist or just the regular kind. People are not groups, groups are not people, each person must be considered as an individual.
Like most smart people, Ai makes the mistake of believing he is an expert in everything. Yes, we have problems in the US, but to compare the US's prison population demographics and people having access to arms to China's authoritarianism smacks of No True Scotsman. I believe he is generally right and can attest first hand what authoritarianism looks like, but someone who says the US's "gun problem" (which is an outright fabrication) is part of the US being an authoritarian state injures their own credibility. I am pro-freedom for everyone, it's not a contest. How about we just resist authoritarianism and government power which go hand-in-hand across the board?
I would argue that the right to bear guns is the only thing stoping the authoritarians as of now. As soon as that’s abolished then it’s going downhill. Also about what he said on the fact that black people are in prison more than whites, I think he forgets to take into account the cultural reason why that happens. I agree that the west is facing , or will face an authoritarian kind of government in the future, but I didn’t agree with some of the other things he said in relation to the west. Nonetheless, it was good listening to him.
The 2nd amendment crowd doesn't understand that our government will have the allied nations militaries in America if there is any attempt to revolt. The 2nd amendment isn't stopping anything.
I don't agree with Ai Weiwei basically blaming the US for the large number of Black people in the prison system. His conclusion is as innacurate as if Ai Weiwei said "the devil made them do it". Human beings regardless of race must take responsibility for the legal consequences of their own actions.
Well you have to remember the media propaganda machine in America is running on full blast, everyone gets influenced by some of it. But yes I other than that, I agree with most everything he said.
I'm not sure he was blaming us, just pointing out the Chinese government's likely response to criticism. He didn't really say whether it was accurate or justified.
Should change his name to Tu Quoque because that is his and China's fallacy. Nor is it unreasonable to have black people in jail when they commit the most crimes. That being said, our system is far from just and it should be rebuilt from the ground up to benefit human rights and men's rights.
The Chinese government _also_ trumps up charges against the people it incarcerates. So saying they commit "crimes" doesn't mean much as long as the laws are as they are.
@@remyllebeau77 prosecutors don't just try for charges that make sense for the alleged crime. their incentive lies in getting as many convictions as possible so they just throw a whole bunch of charges at the suspect and see what will stick. their goal is not justice its just "good" looking numbers. so there are likely a LOT of people in jail for bullshit charges rather than legitimately serious crimes.
@@SubieNinja As for the drug war and marriage stuff I agree and that's why I said the system needs a serious overhaul. No system that results in well over 90% plea bargains for state and federal can be real justice.
@@SubieNinja see, heres the thing. there is an incentive for the american legal system to throw more people into prison. The private prison industrial complex makes whats going on in xinjiang look like a garden shed operation. Just go read up on the kind of things the US uses prison labour for.
That a lot of Blacks are in jail is regrettable, but the vast majority are there because they are criminals; they are not jailed for political reasons (unlike many in Chinese jails who are there for disagreeing with the CCP on some issue). But the U.S. still has little grounds to criticize China for human rights abuses, as long as it allows the crime of abortion to legally occur thousands of times each day, so Mr Ai's point stands.
I have to disagree with you on Black Americans being prisoners because they're criminals. A lot of the criminal behavior was created by post civil war southern Democrats, or Dixiecrats. Jim Crow era laws were put in place to oppress black Americans and strip away their rights to bear arms and their ability to vote. CIA operatives created the heroin and crack epidemic to dismantle the family unit, and the welfare state incentived and solidified that destruction.
I gained respect for him when he mentioned assange. And the hypocrisy of the US. I find a true authoritarian regime to at least be more honest than one that pursues worse goals while claiming freedom and democracy
@@EricsWorlds isn't it more accurate to say the government betrayed the American public by spying on them unconstitutionally for example and whistle blowers are necessary to protect the public from an overreaching state?
When he complains about black people in prison in the Isa is where he loses me. This is a country where everyone is equal before the law. I don't believe that he has looked into many of the individual cases where people who happen to have pigmented skin rob and murder others. That is not the same as the Chinese government imprisoning people for criticizing their lack of rule of law.
He cites our right to bear arms and arresting black criminals as evidence of our disregard for "human rights". So, I would think the NBA would be onboard, if not for their prioritizing China CP over even leftist US objectives.
Chinese uprisings are over land and wage disputes which are perfectly legitimate. These western ones are just cause people got nothing better to do than fight for an ideology.
@@hughmungus2760 are you fucking kidding me? The point was that demonstrations happen just as much in tyrannies as in "democracies". If you think that people in the west are protesting over ideology you need to take a little stroll beyond the aspects of your TV screen. The US is fast becoming a heavily indebted third world country.
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I will not watch the Olympics in China. I have no idea why they are there? I am a grace Christian and believe man needs a Savior to forgive sin, but I am still shocked at man’s inhumanity to man, man’s tendency to Lord over other men for power and money.
Well there are several reasons why the black jail population is huge, and most of it happens not to be discrimination, but socio-economic and cultural. But I don't agree with oil wars etc, but the US is pretty firm, we will smuggle weapons etc for freedom, although we have our own agenda at the same time. And unfortunately that had hurt out allies in the past. The Kurds in Syria, the Afghans, etc. But we're not creating genocidal issues on human rights. And i agree that our prison population is too high, and a lot of that is just due to the erosion of privacy and the laws in the 90s prison reform bills etc. But china's population has tons of criminals and scammers and only political dissidents are arrested. China had no platform to speak on
Actually the US is very much responsible for genocides going on right now with sanctions that deprive people of vital medical and food aid and the destabilization of countries that refuse to go along with US foreign policy
"So many black people in jail" ahh right, yes, those people that actually commit violent crimes, theft, drugs so get sent to prison, vs someone that writes a post on social media and gets abducted by the government. Amazing comparison Ai.
really sad thing is black culture is broken and black people are slowly becoming a token forgotten people like the native americans while the new slaves are being brought across the border by coyotes and moved across the country by the us government.
Let us be clear about United States‘s jail numbers other countries do not tell you how many people are in their jail and if it’s less than us it’s because if you end up in a foreign jail You don’t come out alive or executed very quickly so please remember that when we look at the numbers of people in jail on top of our a very high population here
While you watch this hit piece on China, remember the Olympics were held in Beijing and you're still complicit. Doesn't matter how much you complain until your actions change.
All modern states are authoritarian by nature. There are rules enforced with violence defining how you can drive your car, who you can marry, what drugs you can take, what weapons you can use to defend yourself, what marketing claims you can make, how you can cross the road. Our day to day lives are also defined by authoritarian forces (our employers) who define what we can wear, what time we have to get up, what we can and cannot say to our coworkers. Only fringe people with a delusional understanding of human nature seriously think an anarchist society would be a better one to live in. The Chinese system is not preferable to liberal democracy but authoritarianism is relative, not binary.
Difference is theoretically the majority in a democracy decides which rules we want in our society. Whereas in authoritarianism it's usually one person or a group of persons deciding the rules for everyone else. I know where I'd rather live.
This guy has clearly never had his windshield smashed while working in Watts. Respect for liberty is what China does not have. Respect for the law is what we have here in the US.
I hear his point but a prison population isn't indicative of authoritarianism. People being imprisoned for bad reasons is a sign of authoritarianism. (Bad reasons being publishing something the establishment doesn't like)
@@thegeneralist7527 that's another example of a bad imprisonment. I am trying to differentiate assault, rape, murder and theft against wrongthink and not agreeing with unconstitutional orders
@@ImOlCraig Most non-whites are in US prisons because of drug offenses. Many just smoked pot. I'm Canadian and pot has been decriminalized as it has been in some states. Canada also has a huge opioid problem, but the laws are pretty lenient as they are for most non-violent crimes. People self medicating with drugs means the state should start asking why are people doing this, not demonizing and imprisoning them. Torture is morally wrong, but it is also ineffective in extracting useful intelligence or changing people's behavior. Torture is stupid. But if you play with the bull you might get the horn.
@@thegeneralist7527 the war on drugs needs to be cut off. Personally, I think it would be decriminalized and allowed to be prescribed. I also think it should be given treatment similar to alcohol. But I don't want any of my tax dollars paying for drugs or alcohol of anyone. I don't want them going to jail for it, but if you want govt assistance, you should be using all the money you do have to improve your life before anyone is asked to help you. But I'm super big on responsibility
@@ImOlCraig I agree. Right now the government is the biggest enabler. If people had to stand on their own two feet there wouldn't be all these weird problems.
Do you also say Osterreich with a German accent for Austria? Or La France with a French accent? Or Polska for Poland? Or Helvetia for Switzerland, not forgetting the Romansch accent? Or Hellas for Greece? Sorry, but it annoys the shit out of me when someone wants to be a stickler about the Anglicized version of another country's name when I know damn well s/he isn't consistent about applying the same rule to every country in the world. Hell, I bet you don't even say Chin instead of China.
(Hard 'j' in Beijing is AMERICAN ENGLISH pronunciation, by the way). So, we also don't pronounce Poland with 'ah' sound like pollen-d, for example. It's a long 'o' as in old.
He made a snide remark about US prisons and conflates it with racism but leaves out very relevant factual data such as the demographic that commits crimes. Should we just turn a blind eye to violations of law? How many of that world leading incarceration number are actually not guilty?
According to the Chinese government, all the people in their camps/prisons also violated the law. No reasonable person is saying we should let murders/thieves/rapists go free, but there are significant number of people in jail for victimless crimes. Example: war on drugs
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He lost me once he's talking about moral equivalency between China and US. Feel free to criticize both (something you can only do the US btw). But interestingly that's not what we are seeing. There are many who criticize the US but refuse to speak out against human rights abuses in China. Or even worse they tacitly condone it. Consider the NBA that embraces BLM but would never even say one word against china.
Um correction: until recently, you could criticize the country you were living in openly, if your views were A) left/progressive B) you were living in the Western world. This is changing as we speak: UK and the EU are establishing what's essentially a "truth police" and the collapse of proper journalism and the raise of "social" media has lead to an illusion of "free" speech where you can criticize what and who you want - it's just that nobody will hear you ...while you are totally unaware of this, meaning "criticizing" the government isn't really happening any more as (big) technology is used to marginalize, isolate and ridicule all critical voices.
The average america has little power to change what happens in america, but has absolutely zero power to change what happens in china. So why not advocate for change that is actually possible?
And yet Katherine Mangu-Ward of Reason was on Bill Maher last week saying that the United States was the most Libertarian country. Also, there are about 500,000 black people in US prisons for crimes (if those things should be considered crimes is another debate) VS 1 Million Uyghurs in re-education camps solely based on their religion. These are two very different things. Finally, much of what is being called censorship in this country is actually the market place of ideas. Joe Rogan says something dumb, Spotify's stock drops and people protest. That is the free market. In China, the government straight up does not allow certain speak. The US is not perfect, but to compare us to China is false.
Your first point about prisons is good and thoughtful (we should revisit the why of some laws) but your second point misses the mark. Spotify's stock didn't drop due to "Joe Rogan's dumb ideas" but rather a coordinated political attack by private money and mild government pressure. This is less a marketplace of ideas as it is a battlefield of ideologues.
@@davidgood840 Actually, Spotify has not dropped Rogan and I don't think they will. He makes them way too much money for that. I think the words "private money" in your response is correct. Individuals voted with their dollars. I am not sure I have seen any government pressure on this at all, but I am open to being wrong on that. Rogan is not the only person out there spreading misinformation on COVID (see all of Fox "News") he just is the most high profile. So we know what the US response was to this. In China, Joe Rogan would have disappeared for months and been sent through the Chinese "reeducation process" before making a state sponsored statement. Or China would have made him disappear forever and removed his name from the internet, like they did here to Ai Weiwei.
We know. I came from Mexico and freedom isn't free. It comes at the cost of your nephew being beaten to death In a robbery or sisters disappearing and you hoping that they are dead and not suffering. You don't know the privilege that is having security over freedom.
- ended slavery - right of blacks to vote - right of women to vote - civil rights movement for blacks (largely) - interracial marriage - equal rights movement for women - homosexual marriage Oh yeah, we ignore the log in our own eye.
That's your takeaway from the video? You must really hate the US. Your post reads like a Lebron James statement on Communist China. Forced "re-education" of Uyghurs is moral equivalent of disproportionately black prison population? Forced organ "donation" on Falon Gong dissidents is the same? The ChiCom crackdown and brutal beatings of dissidents is the same as how US authorities stood back to allow 2020 riots to cause over 20 deaths (not by LEOs), 1000s of injuries to LEOs, and $5 billion in uninsured damages? ...and even if you assert these actions are the same, it doesn't make what Communist China is doing right.
this, as you have expressed it, is untrue and a terribly dangerous fallacy. people need an organized society, just as ideas need form. a _state_ is the way things (events, circumstances) are disposed. _authority_ is not essentially despotic; it is authorship, i.e. the act of organizing ideas.
@@hughmungus2760 if the state where abolished my guess is society would be quite used to and willing to defend itself from other states. What would be in it for any other state to engage in such a campaign? Especially considering when their people see that it's a possible to abolish their state.
@@gorgthesalty I imagine the decentralization of authority into smaller and smaller units has already occurred if the state has been abolished. It's probably the primary reason why the state has been abolished because it's no longer necessary, it's become obsolete.
@@gorgthesalty I see no reason to believe that peace officers would not exist in a stateless society. Police on the other hand are primarily law enforcement and the law is primarily criminal in that it violates people's property rights. The state is a very poor form of governance. It primarily serves itself.
There's a fascinating article in The Economist about Eileen Gu, the Winter Olympic champ who suddenly decided to compete for China instead of the U.S., despite being raised and living in the United States. She's a vocal BLM supporter and advocate for female empowerment, but refuses to even mention, let alone criticize, a single one of China's many human rights violations, past and present. And corporate sponsors are pouring in. She was already the third highest earning female athlete before winning her first Olympic gold this week.
It's all about _looking_ virtuous without actually being virtuous.
I saw her gold medal performance live. Every time the camera pans to Eileen the American announcer is saying: Eileen Gu, the San Francisco born skiier now representing China to help promote winter sports for young woman in China. Not sure why they need to prop up her presence for representing another country, when we all know that it's about the money.
@@Woodside235 Yes, and its all about power whilst looking like compassion.
A vocal BLM supporter? BLM thinks communism is awesome. The founders have publicly stated they are "trained Marxists". Of course all that comradship went out the window when the 90 million dollars from naive liberals came pouring in. No one knows where the money even is. Based on personal experience with a grassroots Marxist organization, they are either buying guns or frittering it away on themselves. Probably both.
Sounds like your typical leftist grifter a$$hole. I hope she is never allowed to return to America. Those who give up (at least some form of) liberty for rampant and blatant authoritarianism should pay the price.
"racism," "vaccine," "homophobic," there are countless words in the US dictionary that have been radically changed from their original meaning in the name of political correctness. The woke culture is one of the most dangerous things facing America right now. Kudos to Mr. Weiwei. I just bought his book.
You should see the Woke dictionary on New Discourses. Many of these redefinitions are the antithesis of their actual meanings.
Two of those were always charged
Vaccine is still a vaccine, but otherwise you're right. There was a transwoman interviewed a while back who said that men who don't date her are transphobic...
@@omital-ittna1200 I recommend looking at the definition of vaccine on the wayback backmachine. Its unfortunately also affected.
If you unironically think that 'woke culture' is one of the most dangerous things facing the US, I can't take you seriously. The culture war is a manufactured distraction built around social constructs like race and identity to distract from class war.
Sad that people care more about money than freedom. This man is a treasure to all freedom loving people.
Sadly money is what makes you free in our society
"What is freedom without money" ... that's what people in China say.
If you think the world runs on greed, you're still at least partially brainwashed. The world runs on fear and ego.
Are tou a socialist? You know everything you have is due to capitalism. That is the core of conservatism, capitalism and the individual.
@@ucuniversity2869freedom is the upholding of the Bill of Rights. The First Amendment of free speech and press, the Fourth Amendment of the right to privacy, etc. Nowadays neither side, rich or poor, have freedom.
Something a lot of people do not understand about this mans father Ai Ching is that in china, poetry is deeply connected to politics, warfare and statecraft.
It is a cultural force. So there is a deeply culturally traditional element about the art and about his story.
It connects into the deep roots of chinese classical history.
That's true I guess, but what do you mean by that ?
So his father was a master strategist that could've toppled the Mao regime?
art is war. what do you think nationalism is about? shared culture. exporting that culture. art is war
I'm glad Ai makes the point that authoritarianism can exist in democracies. Much of the discourse on authoritarianism in Western democracies treats "democracy" and "authoritarianism" as antonyms, with the implication being that democracy in and of itself is anti-authoritarian. In reality, it's more accurate to think of "dictatorship" as the opposite of "democracy," as both are systems of government, whereas authoritarianism is more of a philosophy or a practice than a particular system. As such, authoritarianism can exist under any system, whether it is a democracy, dictatorship or anything else.
I always wondered what happened to him. Glad he's okay
Iirc he’s living peacefully in Portugal
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@*Hérétic he lived in the UK and Portugal dumb dumb, he owes nothing to america
I loved my visitation to his exposition in Brazil, even made several university essays about him and China. What a great artist he is, a courageous genius.
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This guy ought to have a discussion with Jordan Peterson about standing up to political correctness
No thanks. Mr. Word Salad would say a lot without saying anything anyway.
That would be a good convo.
I’d sign the petition
Would love to hear that conversation from those two great thinkers.
@@_Solaris They both clearly value freedom of speech and see PC as a form of controlling people.
Ironically it was a friend of mine who later went off to College and got brainwashed into being a hardcore SJW that put Ai Weiwei on my radar I think she has since forgot he exists.
Typical...unfortunately that seems to be the way of things. At least one side is consistent in terms of what they choose to champion.
Have a friend who is at stanford and is now a massive sjw. Funny how that works
What do you mean? Liberals are like ai wei wei's biggest fans
He is totally correct about where the United States is currently.
Im working with Ai Weiwei for an upcoming artist exhibit about diaspora. What a great man.
Hope it will work well. He's not fighting for China only but for all of us.
The world needs more brave men like Mr. Weiwei. Everything he said in this video was 100% true and easily verified.
Just FYI, in Chinese the surname comes first, so it's more accurate to say "Mr. Ai". 😃
He should go on Joe Rogan's podcast.
America is creeping in this direction every single day
Doesn’t feel like it’s creeping. It feels like it’s racing
He’s right about the US, and more and more people are realizing it.
This is why freedom is so important. Government should be as small as possible
I've been saying we live in a police state for at least a couple of decades now.
You mean authoritarian state, there’s been a heavy amount of anti-police sentiment that has been rampant ever since the BLM riots.
@@bryanitza-chulopez1658 Don't tell me what I mean -- I mean what I wrote.
"A police state describes a state where its government institutions exercise an extreme level of control over civil society and liberties." - Wikipedia
@@jdinhuntsvilleal4514 he must have been born after the L.A. riots that erupted when the cops who beat Rodney King were acquitted. The ones that mention BLM usually support the police state.
@@bryanitza-chulopez1658 is one of the things that BLM got right. Stop over-policing, stop the war on drugs, stop zoning and other systemic racism
@@bryanitza-chulopez1658 The majority of police are willing to suppress innocent citizens if they are asked to. It's happening in cities throughout the western world. They are perfectly willing to comply with tyranny.
I have a couple feelings about what he said:
- Regarding the racial divide in prisons, this is complicated and definitely cannot be compared to, say, the Uighur situation. Economic well being is a pretty universal indicator as to whether or not someone ends up in prison. Generational wealth (or a lack thereof) is a major factor, but I'd say the #1 factor is schooling not preparing a large number of AA for climbing the social ladder.
- Regarding PC curbing political speech, yes. Yes it does. It's not to the point of China yet but at this point, the left seems to have a "with us or against us" mentality. We libertarians belong to the center, but the left lumps the center in with the right. Sometimes we even end up compared with the far right, which is a tactic to instill fear of being called certain names. PC is a dangerous road to go down, and I take what Ai said as a warning. We need to have the mental constitution to resist their attacks and be the ones to define ourselves.
A Libertarian who thinks that (presumably public) schooling is what makes a person capable of improving their own lives or not? And that if they don't, and turn to predatory criminality, this is the fault of the (public) schooling? Interesting sort of Libertarian.
@@23wtb good point, just remember to not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Let's just speak truth... Crime statistics show what Skin Color Group has the highest Criminal element.
Who would you expect to be in prison?
Such statistics are never mentioned, and will soon disappear. They don't match the official "narrative"
Should Wt people be put in prison to provide for equality of outcomes.
@@23wtb It's a statistical indicator. I'm an individualist but I believe that schooling in general tends to poorly prepare people for the real world. The quality of schools have a macro statistical impact on success.
If I were to take this concept to extremes, you're probably not going to get any millionaires coming from uncontacted tribes in the Amazon.
What makes a libertarian is not ignoring society's impact on success, it's defining how much government should get involved. (edit: for the record, I'm for school choice)
@@reasonablespeculation3893 True, however there is a vital distinction to be made here. Based on American Black's past successes, despite discrimination, the overwhelming evidence for their modern lack of successes points towards welfare as the cause, and discredits any sort of argument promoting racial inferiority. This welfare culture is now growing in all US racial groups, and we will all pay the price for it.
The odd thing in America is we have a provision in our constitution to legally do something about it. But, those who most admire that provision also support the authoritarian apparatus.
Except they actually don’t unless it’s for them and theirs anyone else… well watch above
I can't criticize the group that does the vast majority of crime without getting banned for it. That's pretty authoritarian to me
See I don't think you should be banned for that, partly because it then people like me get an opportunity to explain that grouping people up by some physical trait is wrong, whether you're a woke racist or just the regular kind. People are not groups, groups are not people, each person must be considered as an individual.
That PBS lady couldn't have been too happy with his response about "Politically Correct language." LOL that was terrific.
Like most smart people, Ai makes the mistake of believing he is an expert in everything. Yes, we have problems in the US, but to compare the US's prison population demographics and people having access to arms to China's authoritarianism smacks of No True Scotsman. I believe he is generally right and can attest first hand what authoritarianism looks like, but someone who says the US's "gun problem" (which is an outright fabrication) is part of the US being an authoritarian state injures their own credibility. I am pro-freedom for everyone, it's not a contest. How about we just resist authoritarianism and government power which go hand-in-hand across the board?
I would argue that the right to bear guns is the only thing stoping the authoritarians as of now. As soon as that’s abolished then it’s going downhill. Also about what he said on the fact that black people are in prison more than whites, I think he forgets to take into account the cultural reason why that happens. I agree that the west is facing , or will face an authoritarian kind of government in the future, but I didn’t agree with some of the other things he said in relation to the west. Nonetheless, it was good listening to him.
You are correct. He knows very little about the USA.
I think what he's saying is just because china is bad doesn't mean the US is good.
The 2nd amendment crowd doesn't understand that our government will have the allied nations militaries in America if there is any attempt to revolt. The 2nd amendment isn't stopping anything.
@@jasonlacroix6083 Ummm… Vietnam. That is all.
I don't agree with Ai Weiwei basically blaming the US for the large number of Black people in the prison system. His conclusion is as innacurate as if Ai Weiwei said "the devil made them do it". Human beings regardless of race must take responsibility for the legal consequences of their own actions.
The drug war imprisoned blacks. The drug war is jut an oppresion.
@@hershgoel7733 Less than half of inmates are there for drug related offenses.
Well you have to remember the media propaganda machine in America is running on full blast, everyone gets influenced by some of it. But yes I other than that, I agree with most everything he said.
I'm not sure he was blaming us, just pointing out the Chinese government's likely response to criticism. He didn't really say whether it was accurate or justified.
@@hershgoel7733 it imprisoned whites. The only issue is do they deserve to be in jail or not? Skin color is irrelevant to that question
Should change his name to Tu Quoque because that is his and China's fallacy. Nor is it unreasonable to have black people in jail when they commit the most crimes. That being said, our system is far from just and it should be rebuilt from the ground up to benefit human rights and men's rights.
The Chinese government _also_ trumps up charges against the people it incarcerates. So saying they commit "crimes" doesn't mean much as long as the laws are as they are.
@@ShankarSivarajan Also? I don't think the stats in America are fabricated.
@@remyllebeau77 prosecutors don't just try for charges that make sense for the alleged crime. their incentive lies in getting as many convictions as possible so they just throw a whole bunch of charges at the suspect and see what will stick. their goal is not justice its just "good" looking numbers. so there are likely a LOT of people in jail for bullshit charges rather than legitimately serious crimes.
@@SubieNinja As for the drug war and marriage stuff I agree and that's why I said the system needs a serious overhaul. No system that results in well over 90% plea bargains for state and federal can be real justice.
@@SubieNinja see, heres the thing. there is an incentive for the american legal system to throw more people into prison. The private prison industrial complex makes whats going on in xinjiang look like a garden shed operation.
Just go read up on the kind of things the US uses prison labour for.
Oh, I know it ... The Earth is infested with high-heeled bureaucrats pushing tiny little pens across big books of rules... -CJ
That a lot of Blacks are in jail is regrettable, but the vast majority are there because they are criminals; they are not jailed for political reasons (unlike many in Chinese jails who are there for disagreeing with the CCP on some issue). But the U.S. still has little grounds to criticize China for human rights abuses, as long as it allows the crime of abortion to legally occur thousands of times each day, so Mr Ai's point stands.
I have to disagree with you on Black Americans being prisoners because they're criminals. A lot of the criminal behavior was created by post civil war southern Democrats, or Dixiecrats. Jim Crow era laws were put in place to oppress black Americans and strip away their rights to bear arms and their ability to vote. CIA operatives created the heroin and crack epidemic to dismantle the family unit, and the welfare state incentived and solidified that destruction.
He is right.. Don't ever doubt it.
I gained respect for him when he mentioned assange. And the hypocrisy of the US. I find a true authoritarian regime to at least be more honest than one that pursues worse goals while claiming freedom and democracy
Stick a rainbow flag on it, it's good to go... Even arms manufacturers, oil companies & banks have figured that one out
Oh you’re a fan of traitors got it.
@@charlytaylor1748 what a dumb comment.
@@EricsWorlds aha, you will be the vanguard of the next war. Dead is dead I suppose
@@EricsWorlds isn't it more accurate to say the government betrayed the American public by spying on them unconstitutionally for example and whistle blowers are necessary to protect the public from an overreaching state?
How perfectly he describes America today.
He cites our right to bear arms and arresting criminals as examples of our not being really concerned with "human rights"
When he complains about black people in prison in the Isa is where he loses me. This is a country where everyone is equal before the law. I don't believe that he has looked into many of the individual cases where people who happen to have pigmented skin rob and murder others. That is not the same as the Chinese government imprisoning people for criticizing their lack of rule of law.
i wonder if i can order an NBA jersey with Ai Weiwei's name on the back
I bet you could get one custom made fairly cheaply. But most people would have no idea what it meant.
It would be made in China
He cites our right to bear arms and arresting black criminals as evidence of our disregard for "human rights". So, I would think the NBA would be onboard, if not for their prioritizing China CP over even leftist US objectives.
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That old cartoon of "ism" is a word to word what happens to intellectuals in big government.
China has a good 50k "local uprisings" a year. Jan 6 the, truckers...
Chinese uprisings are over land and wage disputes which are perfectly legitimate. These western ones are just cause people got nothing better to do than fight for an ideology.
@@hughmungus2760 are you fucking kidding me? The point was that demonstrations happen just as much in tyrannies as in "democracies". If you think that people in the west are protesting over ideology you need to take a little stroll beyond the aspects of your TV screen. The US is fast becoming a heavily indebted third world country.
Such a great book and artist!
He has one thing very wrong. More blacks are in jail because they are criminals, not because they are poltical prisoners.
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I will not watch the Olympics in China. I have no idea why they are there? I am a grace Christian and believe man needs a Savior to forgive sin, but I am still shocked at man’s inhumanity to man, man’s tendency to Lord over other men for power and money.
He knows da Weiwei
Why do the still photos look like claymation?
because it is a recreation using models?
Surprising that more people aren't taking a stand against China.
Well there are several reasons why the black jail population is huge, and most of it happens not to be discrimination, but socio-economic and cultural. But I don't agree with oil wars etc, but the US is pretty firm, we will smuggle weapons etc for freedom, although we have our own agenda at the same time. And unfortunately that had hurt out allies in the past. The Kurds in Syria, the Afghans, etc. But we're not creating genocidal issues on human rights. And i agree that our prison population is too high, and a lot of that is just due to the erosion of privacy and the laws in the 90s prison reform bills etc. But china's population has tons of criminals and scammers and only political dissidents are arrested. China had no platform to speak on
Actually the US is very much responsible for genocides going on right now with sanctions that deprive people of vital medical and food aid and the destabilization of countries that refuse to go along with US foreign policy
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!!!
Do one on Julian Assange and Daniel Hale. Your hypocrisy is revolting!
"Authoritarian state" is superfluous.
That we are even debating this tautology is a sign there is a problem! Lol!
Freedom to choose is an illusion- if someone else is making the choices for you.
4:28 that's what I realised the west doesn't have all the answers even if it points at China. 5:21 he's right.
Great video
Most Americans know they're in an authoritarian state. They simply believe in and agree with it. Authoritarianism that is.
The world isn't watching the Olympics 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh, I’m quite aware.
Interesting 🤨 video of Reason newspaper 📰 and magazine !
So true!
Incredible
"So many black people in jail" ahh right, yes, those people that actually commit violent crimes, theft, drugs so get sent to prison, vs someone that writes a post on social media and gets abducted by the government. Amazing comparison Ai.
Perhaps you should seriously listen to all the words of someone who suffered oppression, instead of only the words you like hearing.
@@CostasAn A) I listened to it all B) I'm not even American so I don't like hearing only specific parts
really sad thing is black culture is broken and black people are slowly becoming a token forgotten people like the native americans while the new slaves are being brought across the border by coyotes and moved across the country by the us government.
I got to the false equivalency part and that ruined it for me.
Whatever happened to the cutting room floor?
Did he just criticize the US for not being free because we have the right to bear arms and arrest criminals (who are disproportionately black)?
Yup.
Let us be clear about United States‘s jail numbers other countries do not tell you how many people are in their jail and if it’s less than us it’s because if you end up in a foreign jail You don’t come out alive or executed very quickly so please remember that when we look at the numbers of people in jail on top of our a very high population here
I seen this firsthand in third world countries. And sometimes they had more freedom than we do
While you watch this hit piece on China, remember the Olympics were held in Beijing and you're still complicit.
Doesn't matter how much you complain until your actions change.
We aren't
Some of us are seeing the tipping point
All modern states are authoritarian by nature. There are rules enforced with violence defining how you can drive your car, who you can marry, what drugs you can take, what weapons you can use to defend yourself, what marketing claims you can make, how you can cross the road. Our day to day lives are also defined by authoritarian forces (our employers) who define what we can wear, what time we have to get up, what we can and cannot say to our coworkers. Only fringe people with a delusional understanding of human nature seriously think an anarchist society would be a better one to live in. The Chinese system is not preferable to liberal democracy but authoritarianism is relative, not binary.
Difference is theoretically the majority in a democracy decides which rules we want in our society. Whereas in authoritarianism it's usually one person or a group of persons deciding the rules for everyone else. I know where I'd rather live.
This guy has clearly never had his windshield smashed while working in Watts. Respect for liberty is what China does not have. Respect for the law is what we have here in the US.
Therein lies the problem. Too many people respecting unjust laws and cheering on the violent arm of the government when they uphold those unjust laws.
Lol what? I’m sure all those smash and grab rats in California have “respect for the law” 😂😂🤣🤣
I get confused about who he's referring to half of the time. Is it the narrator or Ai?
"Censorship."
Ya hear that TH-cam?
I hear his point but a prison population isn't indicative of authoritarianism. People being imprisoned for bad reasons is a sign of authoritarianism. (Bad reasons being publishing something the establishment doesn't like)
Lol! Just try breaking a COVID rule and tell me that is not authoritarianism. They have outlawed the sniffles.
@@thegeneralist7527 that's another example of a bad imprisonment. I am trying to differentiate assault, rape, murder and theft against wrongthink and not agreeing with unconstitutional orders
@@ImOlCraig Most non-whites are in US prisons because of drug offenses. Many just smoked pot. I'm Canadian and pot has been decriminalized as it has been in some states. Canada also has a huge opioid problem, but the laws are pretty lenient as they are for most non-violent crimes. People self medicating with drugs means the state should start asking why are people doing this, not demonizing and imprisoning them. Torture is morally wrong, but it is also ineffective in extracting useful intelligence or changing people's behavior. Torture is stupid. But if you play with the bull you might get the horn.
@@thegeneralist7527 the war on drugs needs to be cut off. Personally, I think it would be decriminalized and allowed to be prescribed. I also think it should be given treatment similar to alcohol. But I don't want any of my tax dollars paying for drugs or alcohol of anyone. I don't want them going to jail for it, but if you want govt assistance, you should be using all the money you do have to improve your life before anyone is asked to help you. But I'm super big on responsibility
@@ImOlCraig I agree. Right now the government is the biggest enabler. If people had to stand on their own two feet there wouldn't be all these weird problems.
pronunciation note: the 'j' in Beijing is hard j, as in Jack, not soft, as in Jacques.
Do you also say Osterreich with a German accent for Austria? Or La France with a French accent? Or Polska for Poland? Or Helvetia for Switzerland, not forgetting the Romansch accent? Or Hellas for Greece? Sorry, but it annoys the shit out of me when someone wants to be a stickler about the Anglicized version of another country's name when I know damn well s/he isn't consistent about applying the same rule to every country in the world. Hell, I bet you don't even say Chin instead of China.
(Hard 'j' in Beijing is AMERICAN ENGLISH pronunciation, by the way). So, we also don't pronounce Poland with 'ah' sound like pollen-d, for example. It's a long 'o' as in old.
You'd best start believin in totalitarian dystopias my friend, you're in one!
He made a snide remark about US prisons and conflates it with racism but leaves out very relevant factual data such as the demographic that commits crimes. Should we just turn a blind eye to violations of law? How many of that world leading incarceration number are actually not guilty?
According to the Chinese government, all the people in their camps/prisons also violated the law. No reasonable person is saying we should let murders/thieves/rapists go free, but there are significant number of people in jail for victimless crimes. Example: war on drugs
@@jumboshrimps4498 -- Thousands die annually from over-dosing on recreational drugs, so I'd hardly call dope dealing a victimless crime.
Every state is no difference
With the "push to do" world we're in. Modern countries boycotting the armies. Somebody has to press that button. They want Fall guys
It could be censored here any day.
His book is available here now, but if censorship continues as it has been, it may not be soon enough
We want to talk about Western Gulag where ppl cant go outside without wearing face pampers. thnx
He’s talking about blacks in US as if they are some kind of political prisoners.
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Is it just me or did the thumbnail look like Chinese Alec Baldwin?
Lol yeah
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He lost me once he's talking about moral equivalency between China and US. Feel free to criticize both (something you can only do the US btw). But interestingly that's not what we are seeing. There are many who criticize the US but refuse to speak out against human rights abuses in China. Or even worse they tacitly condone it. Consider the NBA that embraces BLM but would never even say one word against china.
1 political party more than China. Both pro corporate and pro war.
Um correction: until recently, you could criticize the country you were living in openly, if your views were A) left/progressive B) you were living in the Western world.
This is changing as we speak: UK and the EU are establishing what's essentially a "truth police" and the collapse of proper journalism and the raise of "social" media has lead to an illusion of "free" speech where you can criticize what and who you want - it's just that nobody will hear you ...while you are totally unaware of this, meaning "criticizing" the government isn't really happening any more as (big) technology is used to marginalize, isolate and ridicule all critical voices.
The average america has little power to change what happens in america, but has absolutely zero power to change what happens in china. So why not advocate for change that is actually possible?
I think I just added a book to next to read list.
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His treatment by government sounds like daily government treatment of beat dead dads in the LACS gulag system.
Reminds me of the power of the printing press
Is the world watching the Chinese Olympics? I know I'm not.
I didn't waste a single minute watching, or reading about, it.
Well, it finally happened. We now have sentient AI
Fueling algor.
Maybe many of us do know it.
I really appreciated the willingness to confront hypocrisy given that keeping-it-in-perspective punchline at then end.
And yet Katherine Mangu-Ward of Reason was on Bill Maher last week saying that the United States was the most Libertarian country. Also, there are about 500,000 black people in US prisons for crimes (if those things should be considered crimes is another debate) VS 1 Million Uyghurs in re-education camps solely based on their religion. These are two very different things. Finally, much of what is being called censorship in this country is actually the market place of ideas. Joe Rogan says something dumb, Spotify's stock drops and people protest. That is the free market. In China, the government straight up does not allow certain speak. The US is not perfect, but to compare us to China is false.
Your first point about prisons is good and thoughtful (we should revisit the why of some laws) but your second point misses the mark. Spotify's stock didn't drop due to "Joe Rogan's dumb ideas" but rather a coordinated political attack by private money and mild government pressure. This is less a marketplace of ideas as it is a battlefield of ideologues.
@@davidgood840 Actually, Spotify has not dropped Rogan and I don't think they will. He makes them way too much money for that. I think the words "private money" in your response is correct. Individuals voted with their dollars. I am not sure I have seen any government pressure on this at all, but I am open to being wrong on that. Rogan is not the only person out there spreading misinformation on COVID (see all of Fox "News") he just is the most high profile. So we know what the US response was to this. In China, Joe Rogan would have disappeared for months and been sent through the Chinese "reeducation process" before making a state sponsored statement. Or China would have made him disappear forever and removed his name from the internet, like they did here to Ai Weiwei.
We know. I came from Mexico and freedom isn't free. It comes at the cost of your nephew being beaten to death In a robbery or sisters disappearing and you hoping that they are dead and not suffering.
You don't know the privilege that is having security over freedom.
If you are not free, you are not secure.
Free Julian
The US is always pointing out the splinter in everyone else's eye while we ignore the log pole sticking out of our own eye.
- ended slavery
- right of blacks to vote
- right of women to vote
- civil rights movement for blacks (largely)
- interracial marriage
- equal rights movement for women
- homosexual marriage
Oh yeah, we ignore the log in our own eye.
That's your takeaway from the video?
You must really hate the US. Your post reads like a Lebron James statement on Communist China.
Forced "re-education" of Uyghurs is moral equivalent of disproportionately black prison population?
Forced organ "donation" on Falon Gong dissidents is the same?
The ChiCom crackdown and brutal beatings of dissidents is the same as how US authorities stood back to allow 2020 riots to cause over 20 deaths (not by LEOs), 1000s of injuries to LEOs, and $5 billion in uninsured damages?
...and even if you assert these actions are the same, it doesn't make what Communist China is doing right.
I don't know it? I thought it was authoritarian since I read v for vendetta
6:12 = virtue signaling
Every state is to some degree authoritarian. It's what a state is, and why it should be abolished.
this, as you have expressed it, is untrue and a terribly dangerous fallacy. people need an organized society, just as ideas need form. a _state_ is the way things (events, circumstances) are disposed. _authority_ is not essentially despotic; it is authorship, i.e. the act of organizing ideas.
Brilliant, You abolished the state, Now a foreign power that has a state ends up conquering you
@@hughmungus2760 if the state where abolished my guess is society would be quite used to and willing to defend itself from other states. What would be in it for any other state to engage in such a campaign? Especially considering when their people see that it's a possible to abolish their state.
@@gorgthesalty I imagine the decentralization of authority into smaller and smaller units has already occurred if the state has been abolished. It's probably the primary reason why the state has been abolished because it's no longer necessary, it's become obsolete.
@@gorgthesalty I see no reason to believe that peace officers would not exist in a stateless society. Police on the other hand are primarily law enforcement and the law is primarily criminal in that it violates people's property rights. The state is a very poor form of governance. It primarily serves itself.