Anatomy of a WW2 Bomber (and How to Build One)
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- How to Build a WW2 Strategic Bomber!}
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Part 1 Design Specs - 5:05
Part 2 The Engine - 8:04
Part 3 The Airframe - 11:26
Part 4 The flight model and control surfaces - 13:50
Part 5 The Weapons - 15:40
Part 6 (Not named but this seems like an optimal point for a 6th part, and he said 6 parts so...) Cinematic and testing - 19:00
THanks
Ah, someone did it for me lol
@@messier82ac Quick, steal his work and make it look like you did it lol
You need a 0:00 intro
Thank you
You know what I find nuts, the Lancaster's bomb load was considered ridiculously large for it's time yet less than 25 years later the Buccaneer would carry an even larger bomb load at transonic speeds. The rate of progress never ceased to amaze me
And its carrier compatible!
Even earlier than that, the fully loaded weight of a Westland Wyvern was comparable to that of a fully loaded C-47.
Many times have I pointed out to people that a single fighter jet can often carry well over the bombload of the biggest bombers of WW2. It's ridiculous to think about.
Or how about the F-111, which could carry over thirty thousand pounds of payload also just 25 years later, but at almost twice the speed of sound. Pretty crazy...
Buccaneer is such a funny plane name to me. Like just say it. Buccaneeeeeeeer!
Featherless? ✅
Biped? ✅
Behold, a MAN
this is a HUMAN!!!1!!!1!!
- featherless ✅
- biped ✅
and he is STILL NOT paying TAXES!!!!1!!1!1!1!
@@mentally.not.stable393lol. I wouldn't pay either, if i could 😢
Diogenes the GOAT
Aw hell sonny you don’t need those fancy automated turrets, back on my day all we had was a rear mounted Lewis gun and we really gave the Kaiser hell.
Back in my day we used are pistols like real meeeen
If you don't step out onto the wing and joust or resolve to fisticuffs, can you say you're a real ace?
@@V3RTIGO222 aye I once saw a man split in two whilst boxing two Huns on the wing of his snipe (bloody good man he was)
Airplanes are a damn gimmick sonny! All you really need is a good .577 Martini Henry. We really gave those Zulus hell.
All this global war nonsense could've been avoided if Chamberlain had taken a stroll to Berlin and challenged Hitler to a duel
It's always nice getting a little physics-, aerospace-, or history lesson in the beginning of your vids, keep doing it please.
You forgot the memes
I agree, I’d like actual lesson videos too
I love these hypothetical designs. I would love a cold war war era build like this
she build my anatomy until everything gets Messier
Real
So looking at it, bo is smack dab in the middle of wolf pack territory (ignoring how it's presence would affect that) so I woukd assune bo woukd have a large number of maritime patrol/asw aircraft.... wonder what they would look like.....
Yeah ive never thought of that, I'd love to see a seaplane or something like the PB4Y Privateer
Probably Messier's take on the Shackleton.
I never thought of that! That would make a very fun video if I were to break out of aviation/flyout TH-cam. Either that, or I'll just build the marksman into a maritime patrol aircraft with different engines, a modified bomb-bay, and a gigantic extending radar to replace the current air-to-ground setup. (Wait that's just the shackleton)
@@messier82ac Hear me out: Airborne. Wolfpack.
U-569 makes the contact and lead them
U-94 scores a kill in the dark
U-124 sinking four in two approaches
406 suffers failure on launch again
He finally used different music in the building montage so we don't go insane
It may not seem like it, but sourcing music is one of the hardest parts of making videos. My subscription to Artlist.io is the only reason why we haven't gotten the exact same music as when I started yt last year
@@messier82ac omg, my favorite youtuber just acknowledged my existence. Mom, get the camera
Defo no Pink Floyd fan eh! 😂😂😂
Hear me out, different Era of music for their respectful aircraft to that era
I understand making a v22 osprey stealth would be hard so I am asking for something more reasonable. Supersonic v22 osprey with jet engines 👍
That would be dope as fuck
Look up the AV-42 kestrel
@@TriggerVR657 vtolvr enjoyer spotted
It really reminds me of the Nakajima G8N1, especially the high caliber turret guns.
I thought the same thing, the only difference is that the middle gear is in the tail. War Pain veteran like this comment.
It’s important to remember the difference between strategic bombing and terror bombing: strategic bombing is when *we* do it, terror bombing is when *they* do it.
I used to love the He-111, that little blurb in the beginning is making me reconsider.
Yeah, it’s a cool plane, but it’s targets and methods were ultimately decided by nazis, so you kind of have to disconnect the plane and the people who operated it.
videos similar to this with other types of planes from other eras would be a great series. and you dont even have to make specific aircraft for these, you can use fotage from your other videos if said plane fits
I think the brief history piece at the beginning worked well to establish why we wanted the design specs we want. How short/long it should be is probably worth experimenting with but putting the design goals in a context from the very start works well I think.
Messier a flyout tip to make better curved pipes for exhaust is to select all of the edit points and move it to be on top of the default location then you can rotate it from the base making a ring (-thickasfrick taught me that so i can not clame this idea but i can spread the idea)
18:50 HE SAID THE THING
Looks cool, looks like an F7F Tigercat crossed with a Lancaster
"this is the best damn bomber i have ever flight" - some historical figure in aviation history
Yes! Another Messier upload! Easily one of my favourite on the site
amazing videos as always messier! you inspired me to design an aircraft on paper, Thanks fot being so entertaining, you're amazing!
amazing work dude!
16:13 i thought he was going to say that the aircrafts primary purpose was to save lives
Yo history videos sound great, i would love that
you design really looks like a lengthened combination of a b32 dominator and a a26 invader, def looks the part of a hypothetical world war two strategic bomber, wonderful work
Strategic bombing IS terror bombing. One of the biggest strategic advantages of strategic bombing was intended to be the diminishing of enemy morale, so that can't be a key difference. Terror bombing was just a propaganda term invented during WW2 to galvanise support from civilians and sew negative sentiments towards the enemy.
Debatable as strategic bombing ostensibly intends to only target military targets with the intent of removing the enemys ability to use or produce military assets... But the accuracy of such mass bombing campaigns effectively makes such distinctions moot if not meaningless especially with the use of incendiary weapons.
@@V3RTIGO222 Also the fact that most factories and other industrial and manefactoring area are 'likely' to located near dense civilian area (idk people might want to not travel far from their workplace or something), plus horrible accuracy of any type of high release boming equal... yeah.
But they are clear intend of something between high-up directly order to bomb clearly civilians area and order bomb industrial areas anyway but are aiming at the same thing and might have some same effect but they are difference.
Actually, the allied calculus behind the logic of strategic bombing in Europe was that a mathematics model found out that Axis industrial capacity could be crippled by making people homeless by bombing them. Breaking morale was more of a side effect than the main purpose.
The german bombings of Britain would be terror bombings, since they targeted morale
Came for the bomber design, stayed for the history lessons, keep it up 👍
I'm having a really shitty day, and I didn't realize how much a new video from you would cheer me up
I'm planning on designing a long-range bomber in simpleplanes, I'm sure some might think the game is a bit dated but I don't care it's fun as fuck and the second game is coming out next year
Make a stealth aircraft as it would have been possible/applicable in WW2
Messier, this is your Magmum Opus. It's so beautiful and detailed I love it
Another added advantage of night bombing is that civilians tend to be asleep and therefore have a harder time getting to bomb shelters, leading to an "increased strategic value" per raid.
Mix the documentary chunks just like you did. Splice it in. This is dope
ATTENTION, LOTS OF TEXT!
Hello, I just wanted to say that I loved this design. However, there are a few changes I would make to this model, the main one being no pressurization.
Now, I admire your idea of making an aircraft that would be safer for the crew, so they wouldn't have to face -50°C cold, but there are three, maybe four, problems with that: the cost(the b-29 cost 3 billions of dollars for the program alone), the production line, the weight because of the pressurization and last but not least the German insistence(jets).
However, not everything is super negative reviews, far from it, I know this is just a "simplified" model, there are still things I would like to improve the aircraft's capabilities. The towers would be a twin 20mm to wreck anny german fighter, regardless they size or speed. The engines could have a interesting design that it was used in the fw 190 that's the use of a fan between the propeller and engine which would allowed to hide the air intakes above the engine(there's a channel named Greg that explain it better than me) and there's some minor improve such a nose upper bubble for star navigation, like that one in the b-17, a bomb bay door similar to the b-24(because it has less drag), some windows behind the cockpit for radio operator and fly engineer to look at the engines, air filters, fuel injection if u are crazy and the fw 190 nose to make it look cool
Overall this it's just my opinion, in the end i not even a aeronatic engineer so u can ignore with you want( just don't attack please😢), i just a boy that love warbirds, and some heavy ones, it's your plane so do the way u prefer.
Try make a fighter that can also be used by the navy, or just for the navy😅
My great grandfather actually flew a Lancaster in the Second World War, he made it through the entire thing. Wish I could have met him, apparently he was a lovely man.
God I love this channel
Ah, ze flugabwehrkanone. The original "fuck everything in that direction" gun
I'd LOVE to see documentaries from you dude!
Looks like an Avro Shackleton and kind of works like a late model B-29 with the high altitude bombardment at night.
I love watching these videos and just pretending I understand what you're talking about when it comes to building the plane
I want to see how you would redesign the F-104 Starfighter in Flyout, make it a worthy fighter instead of a coffin with wings. Maybe give it modern avionics too
Beautiful, gotta make one myself sometime
Mr messier i think that although historical vids would be fun, its an interesting way to bump your video schedule from 3 weeks to 3 months
Something to think about, radar jaming was also a thing in ww2, the mosquito was partially used in this role
Also, the Bomber Video was excellent!
It looks very similar to the B-32 Dominator, which would have been used over Japan in 1946 to prep the battlespace in support of the invasion. Great video!
amazing
Fuckin love your vids man. Your voice is very soothing
I would love a history lesson from you
"most internal combustion engines run on internal combustion"
You know sometimes I wonder and dream of an idea of what WW2 would have looked like if we gotten missiles systems early... like imagine if some madman went back in time and just went absolutely ham in designing, then building missiles; all so he could see a P-51 shoot aim-9s at helpless Bf-109s.
Looks pretty much like the type of bomber that would've been designed mid war and saw service in 46-49, only to do basically nothing before being scrapped cause jets are a thing now.
Great build tho!
Bro finally dropped
I would honestly love if you did documentaries.
Figured out a reason why they would have the expensive engines and such. It’s because a good portion of the raid would happen at during the day. They reached Germany. It would still be there be barely light or just had sunset so there’s a chance that they might encounter patrolling fighters in route.
Something I think you need is a World War II Maritime strike aircraft. I mean your island is well in Ireland. It lives dies by the world’s oceans so American strike, and patrol aircraft would be needed.
I'd love to see more "tutorial-like" videos
When I saw that Stealth Cessna thumbnail, my first thought was "Stealthssna." 😂😂😂
I'd like to see you build the perfect wwii night fighter
Me watching him talk about nautical miles and engines:
Nerd!
Also me in question:
So the letters in the name of a B-17 say where it was made, BO meaning Boeing (Seattle, WA), DL meaning Douglas (Long Beach, CA), and VE meaning Lockheed Vega (Burbank, CA) so that would mean the B-17F75BO was made in Seattle. And the letters on the fuselage defined what bomb group, I’m too lazy to pull up my files about it.
But flying to Messier 82 in one would take billions of years!
about forced induction and intercooling, heat from the exhaust gases have little effect on manifold pressure, as they do not come into contact with the impellor wheel of the turbo.
Must heat in relation to turbocharging comes from physically compressing the air. Compressing air increases its heat as its the same thermal energy in a smaller space. "Heat soak," while certainly not completely negligible, is quite small.
Goated Diogenes reference 🔥
I would love to see him make a ground effect plane
our glorious Bo's Airforce continues to grow its arsenal.
Bro mixed the B-32 Dominator and the Lancaster like we wouldn’t notice 😅
"most internal combustion engines work on internal combustion"
incredible
We need a stealth version of this
U should make an interceptor next
Where did you get the historical imagery of aircraft from?
I’m pretty sure American bombers were affected by interceptors as much as British bombers but it was daytime soooo it kinda increased casualties more from both flak and fighters
Would it be possible to replace the bombs with auxiliary fuel tanks?
How far would the range be if one filled up all that interior space with more fuel?
What's the turret armament on this? I saw the 15 mm for the 4 quad turrets but the 2 tail turret cannons look a little heavier.
The Chain Home radar system was active during the Battle of Britain. Also did you know that some turbocharged aviation radials also have a single stage supercharger in series with the turbo so any attempt to cool the intake air prior to the supercharger is a wasted effort with the supercharger just putting more heat into your carefully cooled intake air. Speaking of your obsessive focus on charge and exhaust cooling, some mighty big aero engines did just fine with what little cooling one intercooler could cope with. Having so many coolers between the exhaust and intake... For one thing, use heat resistant steels in the tube(s) carrying the exhaust gasses, insulate it well, and don't cool it as your taking energy away from the turbocharger.
Do some studies on the big engines like the P&W Double Wasp, Wright Duplex Cyclone and the sleeve valve 18 cylinder Bristol Pegasus..
Also, you are going to need great volumetric efficiency, like either 4 valves per cylinder or sleeve valves; putting in a bunch of space and volume flow wasting radiators to get more power is going to not work as great as you think. There's a ton of very thin but very cold air up at 29K, as long as your aircooled engine(s) have a well designed internal cooling duct and cowling, and a cooling flaps that don't induce too much drag..
And then there is the real biggie: Be prepared to have all your whiz-bang recip engine tech be rapidly become irrelevant in less than 10 years time as the jet turbine and more importantly the gas turboshaft/prop start to surpass all your reinventing the wheel. it's inevitable, the first C130 flew when, 1954? With 3000 hp per engine in less weight, size, and complexity.
Requesting a supersonic stealth VTOL fighter that uses canard rotor wing technology for VTOL flight but turns into an oblique wing for forward flight. Has thrust vectoring and adaptive cycle engines
Definitely gonna steal these engines, They are beautiful. The nacelles and landing gear as well. 😂😭 I cannot make nice detailed parts like these but I can take other stuff or kit bash extremely well. I can draw and make blueprints extremely well its just the execution into flyout, I’m dogwater.
Cape Girardeau won't forget this one!
Looks uncannily like the Martin XB-33A Super Marauder
Would fins on the exposed exhaust help substantially enough with heatsoak to matter?
Yeah but the drag and weight induced from even one fin wouldn’t be worth vs just keeping it flat.
Pls do the documentaries in your free time
20:21 white text on a white background nice job mann xD
You should make a tank with functional tracks
Is there a reason the rudder turning string thingy is off-center? (Sorry I don't know what it's called)
Fighter pilots make movies, bomber pilots make history
I just joined the discord server but I cant find the plane file, where can I find it?
Could you do a tutorial to fly out and its basics because there are no good ones I can find.
Now for fighters, interceptors, naval aircraft and attack aircraft (WE WANT DIVEBOMBERS).
This reminds me a bit of the XB-32.
Reminds me a lot of the Avro Shackleton.
Want to fly it! Important questions though. Does it have heaters, a coffee maker, and a piss lily? 10+ hours in the lass mandate this...
i am surprised you didnt include Schnellbomber, aka the best kind of bomber because unlike the other kinds these were built by competent people. because defensive gunners until radar controlled guns, were hopelessly useless against an attack from interceptors.
also they look so fucking sleek.
Dude just casually designs a twincharged 14-cylinder rotary piston engine. What did you do today?
yo i have challenge for you to make a late ww2 carrier fighters with reverse swept wings that is vary maneuverable
13:30 nice Diogenes reference
Messier, could you give the range in freedom units?
”Big Guns that point up”
Remote controlled turrets. Gunner head still sticks out in the cupola.
My favorite type of Aircraft designs has to be the twin engines with turrets/gunners on them
And my favorite aircraft of all time goes the the P-61 Black Widow due to its unique top quad 50 turret and it's overall design...except the round nose I kinda hated that part but it's whatever
I wonder what your fictional nation would make of a twin engine heavy fighter
for anyone wondering the text at 20:17 says 8-ton bombbay
You could build a "fast bomber" like the ones the Germans had in WW2.
At 11:00 when setting all the parts to the None texture resolution, you could've just give into the craft files and delete all the blank textures. Would barely take a minute
11:09 DOUBLE WASP MENTIONED
I FUCKING LOVE THE GRIN OF "FUCK YOUR A6M"