torsen.com/how-it-works/ These are the planet pinions in the differential that change positions ; crossed axis helical gears on type A, parallel axis helical gears on type B and modified parallel axis gears in a planetary configuration (more compact) in type C
Они все осуществляет блокировку, но делают это немного по-разному за счет конструкции. Есть конструкция quaife, есть torsen. Они разные, но часто их называют одним именем - torsen. Судя по А В C, есть и ещё какие-то другие реализации дифференциала повышенного трения.
I agree! In my opinion, the best 4wd system ever made for a car (for use in daily basis) is the Quadra drive system that can be found in Jeep Grand Cherokee 1999-2004.
@@samin2173 I trust Qd1 a bit more. The Qd 2 uses electronic lsd and takes help of the antispin system (brakes). I don´t want my car to brake and lose power in a tricky situation. The Varilok axles that comes with Qd1 is bulletproff. The LSD in them is claimed to "lock" up to 98%. I never had problem with this sytem..
Super że nie zapomniałeś o V8 w automacie. Fajnie by było zobaczyć Quattro E-Tron na rolkach i czy soft od trakcji jest równie dobrze napisany jak w Tesli
A question about Haldex quattro, why Gen III Haldex was not appeared in quattro? E-tron's quattro has 2 version, one is that rear axle only has 1 electric motor, another is the one that rear axle has 2 electric motor used on Audi RS e-tron GT.
Hello! Could you please help me identify the type of center differential on my Audi A4 B8.5, 2013, quattro, manual gearbox 0b2? Is it Torsen type C or crown gear differential?
Which one is on the 2001 Audi b5 s4 ? Is it the open on the front, open on the back, with middle 50/50 torque split ? Believe the 1998 one in the video ?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersnot every b5 quattro has center torsen b it depends on if its automatic transmiton or manual the automatic has torsen b the manual has torsen a. For example i have audi a4 2.4 quattro b5 5-speed manual and its the same part number on the torsen diff than on the audi 80 b3 quattros amd it looks like torsen a also there are some videos on youtube from guys who dismantle there center diff on the b5 manual and ther is a torsen a
I dont know which center differential has my fathers A5 2009 with 0B5 stronic gearbox but there is some strange behave at low speed full left or right steering turns. Car hardly moves, you have to press accelerator pedal hard.
How can the r8 have a haldex system when haldex can only sent 50% to the rear and only applies to transversely mounted engines? Its more like a quattto ultra, similar to an x drive
Haldex is a clutch-pack. Engine is in the back of the car (behind the driver), car is rwd based. Driveshaft goes from the engine to front differential. Haldex connects the driveshaft with front diff.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i wasnt questioning about the set up, rather the unit used. Haldex supposedly can only sent 50% to the opposite differencial, and the engine has to have a particular set up. Anyways
Actually there is comprehensive evidence both from rallying and track that the Quattro system has been supreme compared to anything else. It was great and special back at the days, nowadays the competition is much more harder. But Quattro defined the 4wd systems for normal cars and proved it's worth and functionaliy in a way that is undeniable. In my mind that is the Quattro legacy.
@@samin2173 Soon there will be another video about Quattro systems in rally cars. And when it comes to rallying - people tend to forget that in rallies Audi was winning only with RWD cars. And that wasn't easy, in 1983 they even lost whole championship with RWD Lancia. Audi has popularized awd systems for normal cars but definitely not defined cause there were more advanced awd systems before 1980.
@@samin2173 At present, I think that the development of AWD systems using LSD and electronic differentials(like Landrover or BMW X-Drive) is better than mechanical 4WD mechanisms such as Quattro and Subaru's AWD.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's right, but it's a shame that Audi sometimes looks worse than BMW or Land Rover, perhaps because Audi can't abandon the feature of a mechanical AWD
Chinese Audi users really hates quattro ultra because it has lost the factor of similar to RWD, Torsen CSM has the spilt of 40 to front and 60 to rear.
*UPDATED VERSION OF QUATTRO GUIDE: 1980-2023*
th-cam.com/video/FADv7oPPgMY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Jo_BnLVVE_e_Xhfl
Please, test on rollers c3 quattro with manual lock differencials
Great job as always!
What are the differences betweeen torsen type A, B and C?
torsen.com/how-it-works/
These are the planet pinions in the differential that change positions ; crossed axis helical gears on type A, parallel axis helical gears on type B and modified parallel axis gears in a planetary configuration (more compact) in type C
Они все осуществляет блокировку, но делают это немного по-разному за счет конструкции.
Есть конструкция quaife, есть torsen.
Они разные, но часто их называют одним именем - torsen.
Судя по А В C, есть и ещё какие-то другие реализации дифференциала повышенного трения.
Excellent! Waiting for the same guide for Subaru Symmetrical AWD. Dziękuję i pozdrawiam.
Dzięki, pozdrawiam!
Great job! Thx!
Test all generation of Honda/Acura SH-AWD, pls!
Here's SH-AWD : th-cam.com/video/nsmp4NFCn-k/w-d-xo.html
Now here is a challenge, please do a similar video about Jeep 4wd systems.
It's gonna be a liiitle bit more complicated :) check this out for starters: www.wikiwand.com/en/Jeep_four-wheel-drive_systems
I agree! In my opinion, the best 4wd system ever made for a car (for use in daily basis) is the Quadra drive system that can be found in Jeep Grand Cherokee 1999-2004.
@@J1I9M7M4Y What about QD2, some say it is even better?
@@samin2173 I trust Qd1 a bit more. The Qd 2 uses electronic lsd and takes help of the antispin system (brakes). I don´t want my car to brake and lose power in a tricky situation. The Varilok axles that comes with Qd1 is bulletproff. The LSD in them is claimed to "lock" up to 98%. I never had problem with this sytem..
Odnośnie numer 7- 2005 to tu jest mała nieścisłość. Wersja C występował tylko w RS4 w pozostałych dalej B 50:50.
2005 to data, kiedy po raz pierwszy pojawił się C. Później stosowano go w wielu modelach, w zasadzie to do dziś jest w użyciu.
Super że nie zapomniałeś o V8 w automacie.
Fajnie by było zobaczyć Quattro E-Tron na rolkach i czy soft od trakcji jest równie dobrze napisany jak w Tesli
V8 w automacie to przypuszczanie najsprawniejsze Quattro w historii.
Co do E-Tron - szukamy!
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers chodzi o zastosowany rodzaj centralnego mechanizmu różnicowego i torsen na tyle?
@@sagittarius-tk4hj Tak, centralny dyfer ze sprzęgłem, czyli zakres pracy od otwartego do zblokowanego. No i torsen z tyłu.
Thanks!
Hello can you tell me about Audi a6 c5 2.7t Quattro SIX manual gearbox 2000 year about “front” and “center” please?
Hello, front open, center torsen T-2.
excellent video
Thanks!
A question about Haldex quattro, why Gen III Haldex was not appeared in quattro? E-tron's quattro has 2 version, one is that rear axle only has 1 electric motor, another is the one that rear axle has 2 electric motor used on Audi RS e-tron GT.
Haldex III was reserved mainly for Volvo. I don't know the reasons.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers OK
What type of quattro does my A6 C7 2013 3.0tdi 245hp have? Thank you
That should be torsen C.
Hello! Could you please help me identify the type of center differential on my Audi A4 B8.5, 2013, quattro, manual gearbox 0b2? Is it Torsen type C or crown gear differential?
What engine and what market it is, Europe, NA?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Europe, 1.8 tfsi CJEB, gearbox code NSN
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Europe, 1.8 tfsi CJEB, gearbox code NSN
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers CJEB 170 hp, Europe
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers European market, CJEB 170 hp
Can you tell me what that front differential was again?
This one tells it a few times more: th-cam.com/video/FADv7oPPgMY/w-d-xo.html
Why do Q7 use 58:42 torque split ?
I don't know the details. That was some modification made by Borg Warner for better offroad capabilities.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ok.
Hello, i have an Audi a6 c6 4f 2010 3.0tdi manual, what diff do i have? Torsen C ?
Hello, that will be torsen B.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks mate!
Ktoś może wyjaśnić termin "dog clutch"?
U nas to się zwie sprzęgło kłowe chyba. Generalnie zero-jedynkowe, czyli albo zapięte, albo rozłączone, nie ma stanu pośredniego.
So which Torsen is better on older Audi models let's say from A4 b5 to b7? Do you prefer Haldex over Torsen on older Quattro models?
I would say that both torsens (A, B) are the same good. In older Quattro models torsen is better choice, haldex systems weren't well tuned those days.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yo thanks :-)
Hello, which system does the 2022 A4 45tfsi use?
Hello, quattro ultra.
The worst ultra quattro🤮
Thanks for the videos! I'm aways checking! What would the system on a 2013 A4 Avant 2.0 TFSI with a 7 speed dual clutch transmission?
Thank you! That will be torsen C.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers you skipped 2000-2004
@@fiddibelow What exactly did I skip?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers is the 2000 and up same as the 98 or is it thorsen how does it work what is it etc
@@fiddibelow Nothing is skipped. It is torsen B since 1994. 1998 says about models with transversely mounted engines.
wow just realize the popular 02x transmission is from 1994. sold up to 2009 in the cabrio b7.
nope. you are refering to 01e which changed to 02x in 2005. nevertheless both great transmissions
Which central differential is used in 2019 b9 s4? Is it Torsten c or crown gear?
Torsen C.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks, much helped!
Which one is on the 2001 Audi b5 s4 ? Is it the open on the front, open on the back, with middle 50/50 torque split ? Believe the 1998 one in the video ?
Front and rear open, center torsen B 50/50.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollersnot every b5 quattro has center torsen b it depends on if its automatic transmiton or manual the automatic has torsen b the manual has torsen a. For example i have audi a4 2.4 quattro b5 5-speed manual and its the same part number on the torsen diff than on the audi 80 b3 quattros amd it looks like torsen a also there are some videos on youtube from guys who dismantle there center diff on the b5 manual and ther is a torsen a
@@mattiasss1993 Thanks, I'll check the specifications to confirm it.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok you can check it. if you needs some informarion i can tell you some.
I cant find anywhere what type of quattro i have in my 2010 sportback a5 2.0 tfsi 155kw
Torsen C.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks!
Audi a5 2.0 tfsi s tronic 2014
Jaki rodzaj torsena? Dzięki za pomoc
Torsen C (SM).
what type quattro i have? I have 1994 audi 100 c4 2.6l v6 automatic
Torsen A.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks👍
I dont know which center differential has my fathers A5 2009 with 0B5 stronic gearbox but there is some strange behave at low speed full left or right steering turns. Car hardly moves, you have to press accelerator pedal hard.
It has Torsen C. I don't know the reasons for such behaviour.
Nie do konca rozumiem. Czyli w A6 C5 3.0 2003r mam haldexa?
Nie, tam jest torsen.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Dzieki za odpowiedz. A Czy przod 50 i tyl 50?
@@madon999 Tak, torsen B.
How can the r8 have a haldex system when haldex can only sent 50% to the rear and only applies to transversely mounted engines? Its more like a quattto ultra, similar to an x drive
Haldex is a clutch-pack. Engine is in the back of the car (behind the driver), car is rwd based. Driveshaft goes from the engine to front differential. Haldex connects the driveshaft with front diff.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i wasnt questioning about the set up, rather the unit used. Haldex supposedly can only sent 50% to the opposite differencial, and the engine has to have a particular set up. Anyways
@@loukasantoniou8054 Haldex has nothing to do with the engine. It is just a clutch-pack pack, one of many types.
on RS6 C8 Quattro ultra ???
No, torsen CSM.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollerscaron gears?
@@Bender10598??
The fact that I learned from this video:
Quattro technology is not as great or special as its brand image and reputation.
Actually there is comprehensive evidence both from rallying and track that the Quattro system has been supreme compared to anything else. It was great and special back at the days, nowadays the competition is much more harder. But Quattro defined the 4wd systems for normal cars and proved it's worth and functionaliy in a way that is undeniable. In my mind that is the Quattro legacy.
@@samin2173 Soon there will be another video about Quattro systems in rally cars. And when it comes to rallying - people tend to forget that in rallies Audi was winning only with RWD cars. And that wasn't easy, in 1983 they even lost whole championship with RWD Lancia. Audi has popularized awd systems for normal cars but definitely not defined cause there were more advanced awd systems before 1980.
@@samin2173 At present, I think that the development of AWD systems using LSD and electronic differentials(like Landrover or BMW X-Drive) is better than mechanical 4WD mechanisms such as Quattro and Subaru's AWD.
@@scu549 Nowadays Audi and Subaru are mainly using electronically controlled awd systems.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's right, but it's a shame that Audi sometimes looks worse than BMW or Land Rover, perhaps because Audi can't abandon the feature of a mechanical AWD
Weird ! R8 alsu use clutch pack to make torque split between front and rear
Do you know about the audi 90 IMSA racecar's differential? That one seemed to be the best quattro for the road.
That was torsen.
Torsen is best
There are better diffs.
Chinese Audi users really hates quattro ultra because it has lost the factor of similar to RWD, Torsen CSM has the spilt of 40 to front and 60 to rear.
All fans of quattro hates ultra, because is fwd with engaging rwd when its need, and ultra quattro wants overheat, and have to much problems.
@@generationx227 I couldn't agree more on that
No ale jak mogłeś się pomylić w tym: PRDN, przecież zawsze jest PRND
Grafika poglądowa z sieci, średnio mi się chciało to przerabiać - nic nie wnosi.
Kurła po polsku tez mógłbyś wrzucać te filmiki.
Urban19941 hehe większość tutaj zagraniczni, a jak Polanscy to umieć English hehe
To chociaż lektora lepszego dajcie :P
Great, informative video, but what's wrong with your voice?
It's far away from professional speaker.