REV'IT! Echelon GTX Pants Review
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- rvz.la/3QBmrec | REV'IT! Echelon GTX Pants
Constructed from various GORE-TEX fabrics, the REV'IT! Echelon GTX Pants offer comprehensive weatherproofing. The knees come equipped with CE Level 2 SEESOFT armor while CE Level 1 SEESOFT protectors line the hips. An adjustable waist belt helps personalize fit while connection zippers are compatible with the Echelon GTX Jacket.
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I wish more pants incorporated real belt loops.
What’s the difference between this and the Poseidon 3 GTX? You mentioned this being somewhat more off-road focused, but what does that mean in terms of features, or fit? Also curious to know which option is better vented?
Hello! Do I understand correctly that this model has the same leg length for all sizes and is short 32, normal 34 and long 36?
Hi, if I wear these pants with Sidi Adventure boots, will there be any gaps between the knee protector and the boot? Or will the tibia be completely covered?
We've found that there is usually about 1-2" between the armor and the top of most ADV boots in these pants, including the Sidi Adventures.
Do they fit over real offroad boots like alpinestars tech7?
Yeah, we tested it out with a few models. It is definitely tougher (they seem designed for narrow off-road boots), but doable over the Tech 7s especially. - Pat
Здравствуйте! А, что лучше противостоит истиранию Ripstop 400 или Cordura 400?
Does it have an insulating layer for winter use?
Nope, just the main exterior so you'd have to BYO-mid layers for cold months. - Pat
Hello! Can you please tell me the length of the trousers shown in size L is normal? And what is the length of the inseam of the man’s leg in this video?
We used the standard sized inseam for the LG and the model normally is a 32-34" inseam.
400d won't survive a 1 foot skid on pavement. A little disappointed. So your protected from briars. CE level 2 armor is good. But road rash is tough.
FWIW: Denier rating doesn't really equate to slide time. CE AA 400D Gore fabric is tested on the Darmstadt machine to slide as long as most leathers and sport leathers on the market. CE A even goes farther than 1 foot in a slide since its ~45kmh down to zero without breaking through the fabric. Cool machine to watch if you'd like to learn more on it.
@@patrickmchugh8039 Do you have any documents actually supporting the "400D Gore equaling most leathers on the market" claim? Otherwise, this is a dangerous comment to make.
For reference: Motocap's testing of the 400D gore chassis of the Klim Carlsbad shows 14.6 times LESS abrasion resistance than the leather patches on the same garment...
@@ezsteel78yeah, the documents are sewn into the garments. A PPE cannot have the CE AA tag without the fabric having been tested to that standard first on a Darmstadt machine. Therefore, since the 400D Gore has that (or any other fabric with CE AA rating like 600D poly etc), it has been tested and met the same standards for abrasion (in the eyes of the EU) as some leathers on the market. Since they don’t release the test results though, all we know is pass/fail and from that baseline, we can lump them into one “abrasion level” category. I personally aim for textile with leather elbows or shoulders for my gear, but that’s just me.
@@patrickmchugh8039 I am sure you are aware that the rating is a threshold rating. Two garments being AA by no means demonstrates that one is equal to the other. Exactly like two impact protectors being level 2 means nothing when comparing them, because that is also a threshold rating. In fact, some level 2 protectors (e.g. ~8kN like in some Sas-tec armor) offer more than 2 times the force attenuation of other level 2 protectors (e.g. ~20kN like in some Spidi warrior armor).
All AA means is that the garment achieves some predefined minimum: it survived the drop on the machine at the rpm necessary to get the rating.This is all. AA is a actually a fairly low bar in terms of abrasion resistance, you can get that with cordura cotton which is 86% cotton (see Spidi AA single layer jeans, for example). Surely you don't believe cordura cotton has the same sliding time as leather? The test is also an unloaded drop, which some people will tell you disqualifies it as a real world metric altogether since fabrics burst on impact much easier when loaded, and a falling body does load them.
Second, two garments may have completely different slide times (both above the required minimum), but still be rated AA because of their seam strength being similar. Seam strength is an additional requirement for getting a rating, independent of sliding time.
Third, the manufacturer applies for a specific rating. It is not a rating they get after thorough testing. You want AA, you test for AA only. A garment might be worth AAA, but the manufacturer may only care for A, in order to be able to sell on the EU market. If they would apply for AAA and happen to fail, they would then need to re-apply and pay for AA testing, so they aren't particularly
In conclusion, leather is in a completely different stratum when it comes to abrasion resistance, so it is not particularly responsible to imply any sliding time equality here. Even less so if you don't have any concrete data to back such a claim.