Can we fix the DEAD Atari Tempest Arcade? - PART 1 - How to replace the Molex/AMP edge connector,
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I am so sick of looking at that dead Tempest. In this video we are going to try and fix it once and for all!
#1 - Atari AR-II R29 resistor and why it blows. Sense circuit.
#2 - How to replace the edge connector on an arcade game
#3 - How to use a molex crimper to replace an edge connector
#4 - 6100 monitor issues. Is it a PCB issue? Or is it a monitor issue?
#5 - A visit to Adam at One Circuit
#6 - Viewer Mail - เกม
I play a drinking game with every time john says "guys" you drink. I'm usually hammered within the first 20 mins of his videos. Keep it up John love the videos.
The Arcade looks a bit spooky with all the lights and games off, Halloween came early this year. Not too long back after seeing you use those wire strippers so often I picked up a pair off of amazon. Best wire strippers I'd ever used in my life. Strips the wire perfectly each time without fail. I never would have known about them if I'd never run across your channel.
Great vid as always! I have subbed to Adam's channel awhile back...you guys are great!
I love watching these and when John feels like he's got it, I check the time stamp and there's still 40 minutes left in the video. lol. :P
About arcade games in fast food joints, my first encounter with the original Mortal Kombat 1 arcade machine was when it was just hitting the arcades and somehow the McDonald's in the next town got a hold of one. My buddy's girlfriend worked there and we would go by there after working 3rd shift and dropped tons of quarters in that wild game. Then some kids came in and got upset because it didn't have fatalities turned on. We were like, "What the heck is a fatality"? They laughed at us and directed us to the local mall where we found out and the rest is history. Now I have a Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 cabinet in my house, lol!
We also had a Neo Geo arcade cabinet along with the Hurricane and T2 pinball machines at the local bowling alley. I played it so much that I later on 1CC Art of Fighting, Soccer Brawl and Samurai Shodown without problem. :)
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Thanks, Thomas! :)
John's Arcade Game Reviews & Tech Love this! John's a stand up guy!
Big Trouble is supposed to be over the top and cheezy, as it's an homage to those crazy supernatural Hong Kong kung fu classics from the 70:s and early 80:s.
It's a little scary to see the board smoking like that. One day you're proud of your collection, the next you've got the whole fire department on your front lawn.
you should have turned the brightness up on the monitor to override the spot killer. you would have been able to see if it was working at all.
yeah. I thought of that after. PART II. :)
That's something useful I unintentionally figured out on my own as well.
btw u are my fav watch on youtube thanks bro for the great vids
We did miss you!
You said it backwards. The Mortal Kombat guys are like Big Trouble guys.
Big Trouble In Little China is a great movie. I'm sure you just picked the wrong moment to watch it. The right way to watch that movie is to queue it with other B movies like Escape From NY/LA, any from John Carpenter really, The Evil Dead, or the classics like Poltergeist, the exorcist, The Omen, Pet Cemetery and practically anything from the 80's. You should gather with friends a weekend and do an 80's party with those movies, arcade and music triangulating the depeche - social distortion - the police spectrum ^__^ EDIT: Maybe the IRobot has a bug? An Insect shorting the board? ^__^ 48:00 is an excellent project for Johnsucks.
If Buffet(t) hasn't replaced that Molex crimper by now, he's not nearly as resourceful as we all think he is.
44:21 - 44:26 when the arcade operator has officially went nuts.
Several games down? John, your basement is turning into JOW's garage. Time to get a crew out there to fix everything. ;) See ya at Grinks in a couple weeks! ~jimbodeanny
Wooooooot
It's NAM-75 for the Neo Geo / MVS and it's one of the launch games for the NG from 1989 / 1990. And yes it's still an awesome game :).
Thumbs down because Big Trouble In Little China is amazing.
SO CHEESY! :)
That's *why* it's great.
TheTurnipKing I WILL FINISH IT. :)
Big trouble in Little China was awesome especially at the time it came out it blew me away as a kid !
John Carpender+Kert Russel+martial Arts+supernatural activity/legends = cant loose combo
You kinda need to watch Big Trouble In Little China in the context of some of the other classic 1986 movies
"hmmm ....long pause ......I feel like we definitely fixed something here" ............but its still not working :) classic....But if in doubt give it a clout...you crack me up John made my Saturday morning thx
It's not that he has something (to) hear, Harney, but he thinks he has something _here_.
I came this |->
Can't make Grinker's, although I would LUV to go,.. but me and the wife will be in Chicago that weekend for the pinball expo.......I think it's time for a new John's Arcade shirt!!
Too bad you can't make it. I need to get working on the shirt design. #SOON
Hi John- re your viewer mail and the Xbox. You can get an adaptor called a KADE, which is a great programmable device. You need to hack a controller cable to essentially make a USB extension cable.
The OCD in me wants to go through your audio file and scrub out all those mic bumps :) Good video though, as usual.
You'll have to get that podcast in before the Pats game right Joe.
Gleam the cube! nice decks
$350 for that neo was a good deal! It's nice! I have a dedicated 6 slot it needs a little work on the control panel. Do you know if you still can get the lights that are behind the mini marquees?
I never saw any arcade games at Burger King or McDonalds, But I remember pretty much every Pizza Hut around here up to the mid 90s had multiple NeoGeo games in them.. I almost thought Pizza Hut had a contract with them at the time..
John's right, you have to solder your arcade wiring to the xbox controller pcb to use cabinet controls.
Hey John, I had the same Tempest problem... chatter but no video at all. The problem was F600 fuse in the monitor. That is a 3A fast-blo. I replaced all 6 transistors and F600 and it totally fixed the problem. Also check F700. You may have already checked those off-camera, but there are 4 fuses on that 6100 board that could be bad. :)
+Brad Oldham oh wow. Thanks. I thought about this after too. I'll check them asap.
Oh yes.... and spot killer LED was on.
+Brad Oldham my fuse was blown. I replaced it and it blew instantly. So... I need some transistors. :) Thanks for the tip!
Cool! I thought you recently replaced the transistors on that thing.... guess not. I'm assuming you will use the 20 amp transistors that Ian recommends. That's what I did with mine.... 20 amp must last longer than the 10 amp ones. :)
Brad Oldham I replaced them 3 years ago. :(
xarcade has an adapter for their arcade sticks it works awsome.
In one of your slightly earlier videos, I, Robot was already going wrong. There were some strange white horizontal lines flashing across the screen in the attract mode. Looks like failing video ram perhaps?
Awesome movie, watch it again.
49:18 For a project like the XBox arcade, you're probably as well to buy a new build cabinet and stick it in that, rather than butchering a classic. There's tonnes of places online that will sell you arcade cabinet kits.
However, I would add that the original XBox probably isn't best suited to be used inside a cabinet just because it really wants to be plugged into a TV, and a CRT TV for best results. So you'd have to mount a TV chassis inside the cabinet in place of the original monitor.
Xbox coinops is probably best used with a TV and custom arcade stick enclosure.
do a repair vid on the irobot game, would love to see what the issue is with coin mech and joystick
haha, the smoke smell. In our lab we call it "the sweet smell of success"!
oh no. broken Arcade chaos
Ed, you can pick up the Radica-Gamester-Reflex-Arcade-Stick-2001 it's easy as fuck to hack. basically take it apart and connect extenders to the wires. Plus it comes with the buttons and the dope stick if it's going to be a dedicated XBOX arcade. You can get them for like $50 on ebay, but local game shops should be much cheaper.
Won't this pins snap into the original housing, after you extract the old ones? I just rebuilt the connectors on a project Tempest I'm currently "unconverting".
+Michael Brower no. The old housing is for amp pins. Obsolete. It's easier to just do it with a new connector
There is a arcade stick that works with the original xbox. X-Arcade makes an adapter for their controllers.
45:59 I'm thinking it could be an artifact of faulty RAM. If stuff like the coin door and the joystick are memory mapped, a faulty RAM could be returning erroneous values.
Not Burger King, but my Pizza Hut growing up had a ms pacman cocktail.
Hey John,
This isn't exactly viewer mail worthy, so figured id ask here, Is there a reason why you don't use Bob Roberts that much anymore?
20:30 lower right of the edge connector. i see a group of 4 (square) empty holes on the old connector. On the new connector there are 5 empty holes. the (brown?) wire is shifted up one spot possibly?
its really hard to tell, but i am looking at the pinout on KLOV, and it might be the (E 2.4khz clock) wire/pin i'm talking about. Camera angle makes it hard since i don't get a good look at that side.
buggin' the hell out of me like the whole row may be shifted up one spot, but it's hard to tell
+commandtheline there was one populated pin on the old connector that had no wire. Just the pin.
that's good I was sure I was seeing something turns out that's exactly what it was supposed to be
When are you going to do the TMNT arcade game?
After the MKII and here and there.
At one point in the I, Robot testing reboots, it flashed BAD RAM. Don't know if this means anything for you though!
Hi, just come across a cool game on MAME. It's called Gun Ball, it's a cross between Smash TV and a pinball game. Have you played it? Gun Ball is also know as Nitro Ball.
John my name is Max Brogan!
35:10 - THANK YOU JOHN. Everyone kept trying to tell me to watch that piece of crap movie. I even convinced my WIFE to watch it, if you can imagine that. She was pissed. We watched the entire thing thinking it might improve, it doesn't. Its a piece of crap from start to finish. I honestly hate that movie with a passion.
the Grand champ game OLD B/W 70`s TTL, Midway has a simuler raceing game in 70`s
just a answer to the Xbox question ...yes john your right you can hack a controller but the pads are super small,and you gotta watch the grounds or it goes wacky..best to ground ea button individualy ..its best to use a off brand type..also if your not good with solder you can buy a xarcade and Xbox adapter for it and gut the xarcade and transfer buttons and joys to the cabinet...another option is ultrimarc sells a adapter that goes from the Xbox to the older version ipac2 w the ps/2 plug...there is also the joy 2 key option encoder you can make...here's the link to video...there's a forum for this too if you Google hope it helps
th-cam.com/video/El2gYKyLANY/w-d-xo.html
pace yourself bro dont get burned out so many projects and web stuff going on at once ..... its ok to put u first once in a while
hey ed i would use an flashing red LED from the power switch and the green power or 5v rail email me i can help
are vector games harder to keep working
John, did you ever buy a cab that had a bad smell coming from it, opened it up and discovered that there was a dead hobo inside it, next to the PCB? If so, and I am not saying that this happened to me, what did you do about the body? Hypothetically speaking.
lucky!
Sell the cab to someone else on Craigslist.
I usually donate the bodies to the local colleges.
Hello John,
missing you this week.
Check your mic there are a lot of rustling noises.
Yeah I know. That was weird. Just in the beginning.
a smart power strip would turn everything on at once
Working on getting a tempest today $200 no picture. Cab looks decent. Good deal? This will be my second arcade(super Neo 29 4 slot)
If it's complete, YES!
Awesome, thank you for your help. Can't wait to check out the new video when I get home.
Those wire strippers are bad and would not be IPC certified. They essentially pull the wire and rip the plastic off (only two flat blades on top and bottom of a round wire, the blades barely contact). When the plastic stretches, if any is left behind, it could hinder the crimp when the pin is put on. This happened to me when stripping about 250 wires to put into wago style screw terminals, and I had to search through and find out which wires weren't making contact.
Get a pair of stripmasters with round blades, Same "auto strip" concept, but much more reliable. Plus, if the blades ever dull, they are replaceable. Been using mine for years, and they still work like new.
+Tony Mancini I've never had issues with them. I'm not working on Missile defense systems. :)
Fair enough, John. I just like to open up conversation and share knowledge. You never know when you'll have a "I'll never go back to that!" kind of moment. Keep on keeping on, really enjoying your videos. I know it's mostly a hobby for you, but you are creating a video archive of these machines that really doesn't exist right now. So happy to see this knowledge being preserved and passed on
damn John I thought you were dead lol
Got Tempest and I Robot on my Raspberry pi. I Robot is fun once you get the hand of it. Wanted to put Mad Planets on there too but Mapping the control scheme on a pi is quite impossible.
On the subject of an XBOX arcade machine, Don't As I learned with my Raspberry Pi you're better off if you just get a PC and built a MAME machine out of that.
I HAVE A TEMPEST(NOT WORKING) AWSOME GAME MY ALL TIME FAVORITE IS ZOO KEEPER WOULD LOVE TO TRADE IF POSSIBLE
I have a mariobro arcade where is the power source
I almost dread watching the video. I know how tedious it is to do this. lol
Thank God! You didn't film every pin. I have the same crimpers and strippers, a must have for this task.
That would be not smart. :) It took forever!
JOHN FINISH BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA!!
Put a LV2000 upgrade board to that monitor.
ahhhh ahhhh lol i would just cut strip and solder to a new connector one at a time ,,, crimping freekin nightmare
working on my tempest ive tested the power brick and everything tested ok the whe n i started to test the game board ,everthing that was supoosed to be 5v is like .803 v what the f
Is your AR power supply bad?
wow i really appreciate the reply, as soon as i can gonna join gotta go back through the vids to find out how to test the ar power supply as if i know wtf that is ,am determined to figure it out our site is a big help the fact that you got back to me in about 5 hrs is truly amazing this is the first arcade gaqme ive ever aquired was given to me for cleaning out a horribly disgusting was told it was working when they put it there and i couldnt turn it on till i got it home when i turned it on the marque turned on and a little dot in the middle of the screen could use any pointers thanks again for the reply after tomorrow i should be a member thanks agiain
At one point, the screen flashed bad ram.
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For the Xbox controller. I bought a KADE arduino device, flashed it with Xbox original and simply wired it up to my control panel just like an ipac. Then I bought a USB to Xbox control port adapter for a couple bucks on ebay. Easy.
how do u get these I can't find a way to order one
i use brook universal pcb in my cabinet. best way to use the buttons+stick :)
Just google KADE. Go to their store and you can purchase one for as cheap as thirty-five bucks. WAY cheaper than the Brook Universal PCB.
I've looked for kades store and it shows tpage is no longer
In stock. Twenty-nine dollars. northamerica.emukade.com/product/kade-miniarcade/
double dragon works in a drawer lol
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Go gators.