Atari Tempest Fix Part #2 - 6100 Monitor rebuild Transistors Sockets and LV2000

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    Atari Tempest Fix Part #2 - 6100 Monitor rebuild Transistors Sockets and LV2000
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  • @Duke_Togo_G13
    @Duke_Togo_G13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's funny how you say in the video that you are gonna stop here.. When there is a ruler on the floor that says the bull starts here.. Pointing at the Tempest. 😂😂

  • @dvv45
    @dvv45 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great as always! enjoy learning about this stuff. Hope you get tempest working soon. thanks for all you do, john

  • @lmiddleman
    @lmiddleman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done with the clearly drawn sheets for the transistor info. Voltages on one page, diagram on the other... perfect for this video.

  • @evilash570
    @evilash570 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    John you should build a garage test bench on the channel, it would be a bit of work, and would be fun to watch. It would also save you hauling monitors, parts, boards etc back and forth from the garage to the basement. Work on everything at the bench, test it, then take it to the basement to install, saving your back, and muscles, and leaving much more time for "Titto's" and popcorn!

  • @ldisc66
    @ldisc66 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I salute your due diligence, sir.

  • @Darryl603
    @Darryl603 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, John! Sometimes what you can do is hold the part down with a pair of pliers or whatever else I have laying on the bench that's got some weight to it. For wires, I let the wire hang off the edge of the bench a little with the weight on it to keep it from moving. On large heat sinks, I've used a combination of the desoldering iron and my soldering iron to heat the lug. I definitely use some flux there because it separates from the surrounding pad better. Thanks and see you next time...

  • @bneyens
    @bneyens 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2 hours and 35 minutes! You ruined my afternoon John!!!! No more work for me : )

  • @cpnnpr
    @cpnnpr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode John! So much knowledge being demonstrated here. A great resource for the community. If you ever make it out to Portland retro Gaming Expo, let me be the first to buy you a beer.

  • @scottfindlay2625
    @scottfindlay2625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fly tying clamps work wonders for small PCB boards for soldering.. also, get some desoldering braid, it is great to have as another way to remove solder

  • @exiles_dot_tv
    @exiles_dot_tv 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kept thinking I was getting phone notifications through this entire video lol.

  • @HelloKittyFanMan.
    @HelloKittyFanMan. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Where are my balls? I lost my BALLS!" Haha, John, that's funny!

  • @TheRatman2010
    @TheRatman2010 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    John is king of soldering to me

  • @Nyhetskanaler
    @Nyhetskanaler 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos nice jobb

  • @MrHarney
    @MrHarney 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx John ...

  • @crimsondragon20
    @crimsondragon20 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your laugh sounds like a mad scientist

  • @sewashburn0529
    @sewashburn0529 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, a new shirt design for Christmas would be great! Maybe green or red this time? A different Pac-Man color shirt each time would be interesting. I didn't get the Brown Paint shirt but I did get the one with your thumb on the back.

  • @aaronjackson6305
    @aaronjackson6305 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love ur vids

  • @ukxvc
    @ukxvc 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Epic journey with the monitor but I think you addressed multiple issues here. You just have to keep chipping away at each possibility eliminating as you go. You'll crack it in the end.
    Thanks for reading out my viewer mail pal! Made up with that. :)

  • @victorclausson4039
    @victorclausson4039 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a new name for your show: John Socket Video Games ;)
    Great vid, John!

  • @JeffWaldronArcade
    @JeffWaldronArcade 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wanted to know what the reason was for cutting above the solder. Does it cause more cold solder joints if you don't?

  • @craiggilchrist4223
    @craiggilchrist4223 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you wire an in-line resistor to your screwdriver?

  • @lasvegasira
    @lasvegasira 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After the success of the "brown paint" shirt, your next one should be "Where Are My Balls???"

  • @n.h.s.a.d.m.
    @n.h.s.a.d.m. 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You'll figure it out eventually. You can do it!

  • @thicklyspread
    @thicklyspread 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love looking at back of jon's hat

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It likes looking at you.

  • @mazenblue3790
    @mazenblue3790 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa, 2 and a half hours!

  • @firebird8600
    @firebird8600 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    20 seconds in, and I'm already wondering if you are going to turn the arcade on anyway like the last video.

  • @nicklocascio3109
    @nicklocascio3109 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    from the troubleshooting guide on the lv2000 web page, it looks like you are either missing the +33 volts that gets regulated down to 25v or the lv2000 has a dead regulator. need to check if the lv2000 is getting the +33v since you have -25v already. looks like the red wire going to the lv2000 from R100 on the deflection board is the +33. if you got that, then the smd regulator on the lv2000 may be bad. to test the out put of the +25 on the lv2000, check the voltage on the top tab of the smd voltage regulator on the right side of the lv2000. the regulator has 3 pins on bottom, and top has a tab. the tab is voltage out. pin 3 should also be voltage out. hope this helps.

  • @lovieuru
    @lovieuru 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you pick this up in Fremont?
    I swear that's my cab I sold not to long ago!

  • @D4ftChunk
    @D4ftChunk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you found your balls! Now does Phillip know you have his screws?

  • @rlenk702
    @rlenk702 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next video should be Elite Popcorn Machine clean up - Part One. LOL.

  • @Phaegian
    @Phaegian 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Where are my balls?!!" lol

  • @huberthoward536
    @huberthoward536 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey john i like your video and i would like to know if you ever thought about getting a
    cherry master machine i work on a lot of them my self and i in joy playing them to
    the boards are getting harder to find and pin out on some of them is getting harder
    to find have you ever worked on any of the boards

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    power drift update is interesting. if whole CP is dead and properly connected, sounds like a board issue.
    I will have to dig through the schematic and look for a common point of failure for entire Control Panel out of curiosity.

  • @stevelarkins7002
    @stevelarkins7002 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    +John's Arcade Game Reviews. PNP and NPN does not stand for positive, negative, positive and positive, negative, positive. It is the layout of the silicon conductor and the doping type ie. N-Type and P-Type Doping of the silicon.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not my understanding and what I've read. us.brainboxes.com/faq/items/what-does-npn-and-pnp-mean

  • @garylucas637
    @garylucas637 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why the black & white vector monitors are more dangerous to discharge than the color ones? One would think the color ones are more dangerous because of the color stages in the circuit. Also I wondered why vector monitors differ from standard monitors. I always thought that all monitors operate the same with raster lines to form an image and its just the circuitry that makes the images differ.

  • @lukilladog
    @lukilladog 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something that used to kill vertical transistors on some tvs were bad caps before them, maybe you should check that.

  • @JackLucasCaffrey
    @JackLucasCaffrey 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully The Tempest Get's Fixed Soon.

  • @erictech343
    @erictech343 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That first diode you tested...looked like a your meter was reading dead short. I know it was in-circuit, but I'd call that suspect.

  • @DamianReloaded
    @DamianReloaded 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    **makes coffee**

  • @rlenk702
    @rlenk702 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    John, do you have to buy a new LV 2000 or can you shotgun some of the parts on it?

    • @MattyMosArcade
      @MattyMosArcade 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think there is an upgrade you can buy

  • @tigheklory
    @tigheklory 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr. Do! is a better Dig Dug. It has way more depth of play.

    • @brado426789
      @brado426789 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed.... I do have a Universal Mr. Do cab, but I still want a Dig Dug. :)

    • @tigheklory
      @tigheklory 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brad Oldham I get it, it's just that the game is really easy and gets boring fast.

    • @brado426789
      @brado426789 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr. Do is way better. I play it almost daily

  • @MrFavoritesf
    @MrFavoritesf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you found your two balls...haha

  • @PecanPie1102
    @PecanPie1102 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you john, call Ian and do a vid with him and fix it Together. So many good memories. Nyc

  • @rcawesome4123
    @rcawesome4123 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say it might just be a good idea to replace everything but the tube yoke and fly back but that's just me I have a junk board you can use for parts if you want it it's yours

  • @joesmoe71
    @joesmoe71 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish someone like Dezbaz would find a way to make a reliable, universal vector monitor.

  • @benmmaddog
    @benmmaddog 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also remember not to test the fuses on a metal surface . LOL :)

  • @TheRealSasquatch
    @TheRealSasquatch 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    check the diodes and the polarity of any electrolytic caps.

  • @jesset061084
    @jesset061084 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is John from am a big fan and would luv to meet him someday

  • @vbaros22
    @vbaros22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey John how about an ugly Christmas arcade Tshirt too?

  • @nubowner1
    @nubowner1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A chisel tip would do a lot better of a job on those larger pads vs the conical tip that you currently have on your iron.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I know. I am very much used to my tip and using the side of it.

  • @davidannett3322
    @davidannett3322 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    holy shit john's using flux

  • @CSIG1001
    @CSIG1001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many watts an hour to run all those game? 3.26 gigawatts?

    • @lasvegasira
      @lasvegasira 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      1.21 gigawatts...

  • @WastingMyPotential
    @WastingMyPotential 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    After 1 week of trying to fix my Star Wars.... I could only get a picture in the bottom corner. I changed everything.. twice.... Everything still tested good. So I decided to change the lv2000 And bam back to normal.. Also, the new LV2000 came with tiny heatsinks... I repeat the new LV2000 came with tiny heatsinks. So it seems like this is a known problem...

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Wasting My Potential were you getting 33v into the LV2000? I heard about the heat sinks

    • @WastingMyPotential
      @WastingMyPotential 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure, when I figured it out I had my multimeter at the office... After several nights of reworking the problem and trying to figure out why I was such a moron, ironically, I ended up swapping the deflection and HV boards from my Tempest one at a time to narrow down the problem that (would have done this right away but the Tempest was not originally at my house when I started fixing the Star Wars) the game worked with the deflection board switched. I noticed that only one light was on.. on the LV2000.. I was always under the impression that the LV200 was bulletproof so I did not originally think to check it.. Ordered a replacement and it came with the heatsinks... The old one lasted about 1 1/2 years with the game on at least 48-72 hours a week... Originally, when the monitor went out I thought it was an HV problem or a game PCB problem causing a chain reaction of sorts because the symptoms did not match anything on the faq... My symptoms were as soon as I turned the game on... there was a bunch of chatter.. some ticking... then the screen started to flicker more than usual went unstable then wacky and then dead... Pulled the chassis and fixed a few parts... F600 was blown a diode and resistor on the HV cage went bad found some questionable connections ect. ect.. Even though the chassis transistors tested good I still changed them for good measure since I could not figure out the problem... When I started the game I had some strange shapes (not an image of the game) in the corner just like you... The issue that kept throwing me for a loop was that I could not adjust the B+ above 76-80 volts dc... I tested and tested over and over and nothing.. B+ was still low whatever I did or changed... I tested everything in the B+ circuit and it tested good.. At that point it was obvious that I was just a complete moron... I was about to throw in the towel when after narrowing the problem down to the deflection board.. I thought to look at the only part I didn't test.. Duh.... Thats when I noticed the light on the LV2000... In my case, I do not know if the LV2000 took out some parts or if a bad part took out the LV2000... Check to see if you can adjust your B+ or if it is too low... A bit buzzed... hope this makes sense.

  • @Lord_Verge
    @Lord_Verge 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    John couldn't find his balls...

  • @CaesarNeptuneStudios
    @CaesarNeptuneStudios 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will my viewer mail appear in a video? I sent it like 1 week ago

  • @alexandersmith7583
    @alexandersmith7583 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    check the flyback

  • @alexandersmith7583
    @alexandersmith7583 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    it could be the chasis

  • @RWL2012
    @RWL2012 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second! 😄

  • @youvsyou945
    @youvsyou945 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn't need to take the heat sinks off.

  • @Riz2336
    @Riz2336 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn dude after all that and it wasn't fixed

  • @hannonm
    @hannonm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think adam needs to take a look at the audio board and pay another visit.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      audio board?

    • @hannonm
      @hannonm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the power to it

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Amy Marie oh. Power drift.

    • @hannonm
      @hannonm 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup the pinout is in error.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?! ?

  • @johnsmith-xw4ez
    @johnsmith-xw4ez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16 GB = 17,179,869,184 Bytes.

    • @johnsmith-xw4ez
      @johnsmith-xw4ez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      16,000,000,000 = 14.90116119384765625 GB. Computers works in binary. So 16 * 2^30 = 17,179,869,184.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are you guys talking about this? :) Cause I said I have a 60 GB SD CARD?!?

    • @johnsmith-xw4ez
      @johnsmith-xw4ez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're wrong, There's 8 Bits in one Byte & 1024 Byte in 1 Kb, 1024 Kb in one Mb... There's no Memory in earth has exactly 16,000,000,000 Bytes, it's impossible. In a Mac a Gb has 1,000,000,000 Bytes, Because a Mac is a "friendly" Computer. Look in your HDD, A cluster has 4096 Bytes (4*1024) not 4000 Bytes, 16,000,000,000 = 14.90116119384765625 GB.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MAKE IT STOP

  • @goahead2402
    @goahead2402 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    20

  • @JaydenB2081
    @JaydenB2081 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    T

  • @atariforever2002
    @atariforever2002 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Throw this junk 6100 in the garbage and go to a G08.

    • @Johnsarcade
      @Johnsarcade  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +atariforever2002 those are way worse!

    • @atariforever2002
      @atariforever2002 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, I was led to believe that also. But at this point I'm thinking you might come out ahead...

    • @SlyTheFloof
      @SlyTheFloof 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi john its me again just to let you know you forgot something in your popcorn machine also can you please toss the kernels away it could get moldy

    • @SlyTheFloof
      @SlyTheFloof 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks and keep it up