A Surveillance network appliance for local small business. Its good for deploying a network for customers, for example, offering home IT services. Fewer parts, less bricks, one device to manage - it would make offering tech support as a service easier.
The 3-in-1 router costs just $10 less (current amazon US prices) than a OC200, R605, SG2210P combo which would net an equivalent or better result, so what is the pitch here? saving a bunch of power cords and space? but then again, the switch portion of it does not have typical switching functionality, such as LAG/LACP, so this is more of a router-with-poe thing. Feels like this should have been a $199 product to attract more people into the omada ecosystem. at $269 i just don't see the appeal
I think space savings and for peopel who want WiFi only which from what I've seen at customer sites. Most people don't give a flip about hard wiring things all they care about is WiFi. It's better that it exists than it not existing giving us/other potential customers options.
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In my region it's cheaper then buying things separately.
I don't think this is an accurate comparison. The R605 has 256M RAM vs 1G RAM. I'm not sure how much RAM the Omada service will need but (OC200 doesn't specify RAM). I wish TP-link would list the actual CPU hardware in their specs. Oddly there are several specs where the R605 routing/VPN functions outperform the ER7212. I think in general it's best to purchase separate components anyway, especially since this device limits the number of Omada devices, especially only two switches.
You might also want to install this device in a structured media enclosure, where it could be advantageous to have a single integrated device. Features of this device seem suitable for a robust home setup like that where the AP limit won't be an issue.
I really like the er 7212 but i also do hope for an updates version with a bit more power, sfp+ instead of sfp and at least 2 2,5G Poe+ Ports. This would be the absolut banger for every home buyer
@@SPXLabs for me personally i wouldn‘t even need wifi since i‘d buy 2 EAP 670 or 660 HD‘s. The total POE Power-Budget already is very good with 110W (already more than unifi USW 24) but a bit more would be great like 150W. You‘d have the perfect setup to begin with omada and lator on you could add a 10G switch for all the special stuff like a homeserver etc. All your Security cameras could be powerd by this little device. I‘m still not sure what to buy omada or unifi but since ubiquiti Standard POE switches have such a low poe budget you‘d need to buy the pro stuff and pay more than twice than tp-link 🙇🏽♂️
You can bind a vlan interface to a port number, you just can't have any acl rules apply to your vlans. I thought I could get away with upgrading an existing network with 2x 24 port dumb switches. Had to buy a tl-sg2008p switch to get anything to work like it should.
hello could u do a new video on this router with more detail on load balancing or fail over specially when using more then 2 ISP also how would i have a specific device or group of device to use a specific ISP and how do i send a specific WiFi to a specific AP Thanks
yes you can, you can make different Rate limits, The rate limit profile can be applied to settings of SSID, Client, and Portal (Hotspot > Local User and Hotspot > Voucher). When a client matches multiple rate limit rules, the rule with the minimum value will take effect.
On these omada controllers(or devices that ship omada controller software), What happens if you reach the advertised limits on the number of APs or switches it can support ? Does it refuse to add any more devices or does the performance degrade considerably?
Not sure. I assume you just can't add anymore devices but seeing as how you only have 8 ports and a 110 watt power budget you wouldn't be able to add 10 PoE devices anyway.
@@SPXLabs Not asking you to try because it'll be a lot of work to wire it up but TP link should be significantly more clear on stuff like this. :/ And yess, you can't add more than 8 poe devices but you can have lots of omada controller compatible devices connected to switches downstream from this er72712pc
Hey, can I use deco devices as AP with omada? Can you create. Video on it? As with deco we can not configure multiple wans, I was wondering.l, can we use omada with deco AP
@@SPXLabs Thank you! Didn't expect such a quick reply. Buying colored power cables for a cage and our current TP-Link needed an adapter, was just curious if I would still need it.
Can you help me with something, i bougt Omada ER605, my ISP gave me two set of public IP addreses, one is upstream to ISP router and second block is for my usage. Can i program my router like mikrotik to work with my 2 public IP addreses that ISP assigned me
If I understood your question right, you need a managed switch hub for the ER605 to split the 2 public IP addresses the ISP gave you. From there you can assign to WAN and WAN1 of the ER605.
@@bmallillin ISP provided me with media converter and /30 block for connection to their upstream router and second address is /32 which is my public IP address for personal use. /30 is filtered from them and is only for use for connection to their upstream router.
@@SPXLabs the "switching" part of the device , vlans and the fact that they cannot communicate, like an exception and I thing that only two switches can be added , also some compared the price vs having a c200 and it was cheaper and faster having them separated
Ugh… no longer interested in gigabit switches. This is 2024, mobos come with 2.5gb NICs now. TP-Link needs to up their router game if they want to keep up with standalone OPNSense and PFsense products.
Dude I totally feel you. The dawn of multigig internet is upon us. More and more people now have 2.5G and 5G internet. I said the same thing about Alta Labs like 2 days ago
Pvid is primary vlan id. So if the port is a member of multiple vlans, any untagged traffic will default to the pvid.
PVID is port VLAN ID that a device needs to be a member untagged, the default VLAN ID is normally 1.
You need that if you want to tie a VLAN to a specific port/port group.
A Surveillance network appliance for local small business.
Its good for deploying a network for customers, for example, offering home IT services.
Fewer parts, less bricks, one device to manage - it would make offering tech support as a service easier.
Nice video as always! Thanks for your continued coverage on these cool devices.
Wouldn't be possible without you. So give yourself a pat on the back!
The 3-in-1 router costs just $10 less (current amazon US prices) than a OC200, R605, SG2210P combo which would net an equivalent or better result, so what is the pitch here? saving a bunch of power cords and space? but then again, the switch portion of it does not have typical switching functionality, such as LAG/LACP, so this is more of a router-with-poe thing.
Feels like this should have been a $199 product to attract more people into the omada ecosystem. at $269 i just don't see the appeal
I think space savings and for peopel who want WiFi only which from what I've seen at customer sites. Most people don't give a flip about hard wiring things all they care about is WiFi. It's better that it exists than it not existing giving us/other potential customers options.
In my region it's cheaper then buying things separately.
I don't think this is an accurate comparison. The R605 has 256M RAM vs 1G RAM. I'm not sure how much RAM the Omada service will need but (OC200 doesn't specify RAM). I wish TP-link would list the actual CPU hardware in their specs. Oddly there are several specs where the R605 routing/VPN functions outperform the ER7212. I think in general it's best to purchase separate components anyway, especially since this device limits the number of Omada devices, especially only two switches.
You might also want to install this device in a structured media enclosure, where it could be advantageous to have a single integrated device. Features of this device seem suitable for a robust home setup like that where the AP limit won't be an issue.
Thanks for the teardown. I love this kind of teardown. Do also have some teardown of some of the latest AP ?
Yeah same here. Opening things is fun. Yes, yes I do.
I really like the er 7212 but i also do hope for an updates version with a bit more power, sfp+ instead of sfp and at least 2 2,5G Poe+ Ports. This would be the absolut banger for every home buyer
All of that plus built in wifi would make it an insanely competitive product.
@@SPXLabs for me personally i wouldn‘t even need wifi since i‘d buy 2 EAP 670 or 660 HD‘s. The total POE Power-Budget already is very good with 110W (already more than unifi USW 24) but a bit more would be great like 150W.
You‘d have the perfect setup to begin with omada and lator on you could add a 10G switch for all the special stuff like a homeserver etc. All your Security cameras could be powerd by this little device.
I‘m still not sure what to buy omada or unifi but since ubiquiti Standard POE switches have such a low poe budget you‘d need to buy the pro stuff and pay more than twice than tp-link 🙇🏽♂️
I was thinking more of competing with the Ubiquiti Unifi Express. Or something like the Flint 2.
But either way all that stuff sounds good.
You can bind a vlan interface to a port number, you just can't have any acl rules apply to your vlans. I thought I could get away with upgrading an existing network with 2x 24 port dumb switches. Had to buy a tl-sg2008p switch to get anything to work like it should.
That's something I hopefully showed/alluded to in this video. Maybe it wasn't clear though.
I sell lots of these at work !! paired to a EAP650 !
Hell yeah brother!
They need to update this design with 4 2.5Gb PoE+ Lan ports and a 180w power budget.
I’d imagine that is in the future. But who knows.
hello could u do a new video on this router with more detail on load balancing or fail over specially when using more then 2 ISP also how would i have a specific device or group of device to use a specific ISP and how do i send a specific WiFi to a specific AP Thanks
Unfortunately I cannot as I held a giveaway and someone won it as a prize.
Thank you so MUCH. I've been struggling with the router all day. Like subscription❤❤❤
there are very few videos on this router
I wish it support at least 1000BASE-X standard for the SFP. Now I struggle to resell this router😢😢😢
Wow, no heat sink for the CPU? I would put one though.
It is a bit odd. Hopefully it doesn't have any real impact on anything. I wish that was something I could test for...
Great video ! question about the client area.. can i cap (download and upload) on specific clients without creating a VLan?
Not that I’m aware of
yes you can, you can make different Rate limits, The rate limit profile can be applied to settings of SSID, Client, and Portal (Hotspot > Local User and Hotspot > Voucher). When a client matches multiple rate limit rules, the rule with the minimum value will take effect.
Secondest! Nice!
There is a call out to you in this video. It's really subtle :)
@@SPXLabs lol plain text ;-) appreciated
It was truly unintentional but it worked out
On these omada controllers(or devices that ship omada controller software), What happens if you reach the advertised limits on the number of APs or switches it can support ? Does it refuse to add any more devices or does the performance degrade considerably?
Not sure. I assume you just can't add anymore devices but seeing as how you only have 8 ports and a 110 watt power budget you wouldn't be able to add 10 PoE devices anyway.
@@SPXLabs Not asking you to try because it'll be a lot of work to wire it up but TP link should be significantly more clear on stuff like this. :/
And yess, you can't add more than 8 poe devices but you can have lots of omada controller compatible devices connected to switches downstream from this er72712pc
That’s true for sure. I’d actually love to try but I don’t have enough Poe devices or switches lol. I sort of have been selling them off over time
It's strange that interface ports can't be configured at the ports section.
Indeed
damn I wish it had a couple of 2.5/10Gb ports
Yeah…. You gotta pay extra for that
nah, get omada sdn and run it on an old pc/VM with dualnnics or one dual or more port nic.
self hosted all the way baby!
Which Monitor You currently using?
Hey, can I use deco devices as AP with omada? Can you create. Video on it?
As with deco we can not configure multiple wans, I was wondering.l, can we use omada with deco AP
You can use any device with this just don't expect to be able to control them with the Omada SDN controller.
Hi Mate
More Power to your channel.
Can I PLUGin a nonPOE device to the port, is it SAFE? the power will not pass through?
It is safe. The ports (really the devices) negotiate speeds, power, and several other things as you connect them.
Is the power cord going into the ac/dc converter brick a C13 or mickey mouse style plug?
C13
@@SPXLabs Thank you! Didn't expect such a quick reply. Buying colored power cables for a cage and our current TP-Link needed an adapter, was just curious if I would still need it.
Guy I lied! I’m sorry it’s Mickey Mouse!!! I was looking at the wrong thing
@@SPXLabs Thanks for the update!
Sorry sorry!
Can you help me with something, i bougt Omada ER605, my ISP gave me two set of public IP addreses, one is upstream to ISP router and second block is for my usage. Can i program my router like mikrotik to work with my 2 public IP addreses that ISP assigned me
I'm sorry I have no experience with this.
@@SPXLabs tnx :)
If I understood your question right, you need a managed switch hub for the ER605 to split the 2 public IP addresses the ISP gave you. From there you can assign to WAN and WAN1 of the ER605.
@@bmallillin ISP provided me with media converter and /30 block for connection to their upstream router and second address is /32 which is my public IP address for personal use. /30 is filtered from them and is only for use for connection to their upstream router.
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33w in standby?? Seems very high.
If you don’t use Poe and turn it off it will drop to 13 watts or so. But yeah I could see how that’s a lot
In other words, they created a consumer router
Yup pretty much.
After reading reviews from Amazon from people who install small business i am not considering this product anymore.
Anything in particular or just over arching?
@@SPXLabs the "switching" part of the device , vlans and the fact that they cannot communicate, like an exception and I thing that only two switches can be added , also some compared the price vs having a c200 and it was cheaper and faster having them separated
@boxfabio ahh okay yeah. The boot time is faster on the OC200 for sure.
Ugh… no longer interested in gigabit switches. This is 2024, mobos come with 2.5gb NICs now. TP-Link needs to up their router game if they want to keep up with standalone OPNSense and PFsense products.
Dude I totally feel you. The dawn of multigig internet is upon us. More and more people now have 2.5G and 5G internet. I said the same thing about Alta Labs like 2 days ago
With the specs it seems under powered hardware.
How so?