WHO’S THE BEST TWO COLOR COMMANDER IN cEDH THIS TIME-KRARK|SAKASHIMA vs KINNAN vs WINOTA vs SHORIKAI

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  • This week we’re trying to figure out who the best 2 color commander is in cEDH once again
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  • @Dracomandriuthus
    @Dracomandriuthus ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Bright stone counts ALL goblins in play, not just goblins you control. Notably Dockside is a goblin, so there's 3 goblins in play

  • @dantebeleren
    @dantebeleren ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Got a laugh at Tyler not getting to play Kinnan. Makes a person wonder if the game would have been different if the pilots of each deck was different.

    • @hellproof2379
      @hellproof2379 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Got a buddy that plays a version of kinnan that’s pretty close to Tyler’s. Deck is strong but it’s for sure not easy to pilot lol

    • @TheRDRipley
      @TheRDRipley ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love this. Makes the game more interesting. I recommend doing stuff like this when playing with friends very entertaining

  • @squishyiguess
    @squishyiguess ปีที่แล้ว +51

    When all of your spells were exiled by MBT, if I'm not mistaken you won the flip on Heat Shimmer, which would have copied it. From there you could have Heat Shimmered Imp Recruiter, tutored Spellseeker, used Spellseeker to tutor a cantrip, and start drawing cards. Nate seemed to have exiled the Dress Down as well, which would have let you continue going off that turn.
    Fun video! I love my little goblin lad and his rogue best friend!

    • @Insharai
      @Insharai ปีที่แล้ว +13

      five head. I love storm, but this deck gives me a headache xD There's sequencing, and then there's "how many trigger tokens do I have" The only deck that requires a fifth playmat for the stack xD

    • @erikgrundy
      @erikgrundy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I believe Nate *didn't* exile the dress down, but Dylan's copy of MBT did. So yeah, it could have worked

    • @MGOxPsykomantis
      @MGOxPsykomantis หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the winning line was spellseeker into a Overmaster or Ponder. Or even SpellSeeker into a Twinflame, and cast it on sakashima hoping to win/lose

  • @RumpledNutskin
    @RumpledNutskin ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I love Cam's goofy laugh at the beginning 😂

    • @veldin4108
      @veldin4108 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cams goofy moments and his laughs are one of the highlights of the channel

  • @joedunkelberg5054
    @joedunkelberg5054 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everyone was so distracted by Tavern Squingler they didn't notice Dylan saying "Storm Killin Artist" that whole turn and more. 😆

  • @kenlikescarbs
    @kenlikescarbs ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I desperately need a Tavern Squingler alter

  • @grain_death
    @grain_death ปีที่แล้ว +5

    krark sakashima makes me feel like an ant trying to comprehend a skyscraper, my brain is too small for this

  • @peakaboo6452
    @peakaboo6452 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a krark player , I think i might go grab spell seeker instead,then grab GP for card draw engine cause u get mana from tavern / storm klin anyway, you still can heat shimmer spell seeker in case that your gitaxian probe get counter or u dont have enough counterspell.
    (Ken said that when u have a lot of engine with krarkshima u should go with more value than go win instantly win)
    (I’m a big Dylan fan watcg this channel for a long time, (I didn't mean to make you feel bad. Just want to recommend for people who want to try playing krarkashima , Cause it might have better ways to play it out .)
    Always love you guys videos ❤️❤️✌️✌️

  • @Cha0sRising90
    @Cha0sRising90 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for keeping the fun flubs in your videos! It is always fun watching friends have fun 😊

  • @starnesnj97
    @starnesnj97 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Not having Yuriko seems criminal.

    • @ArcRaiyne
      @ArcRaiyne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This 💯

  • @Spirited_skiing
    @Spirited_skiing ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It’s been a bit since I’ve seen krarkashima, it was almost refreshing to watch it again. Not that I want to see it/or play against it more lol

  • @kellyperry5009
    @kellyperry5009 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was a fast one! What do you all think of the one ring in cedh?

  • @jonathanyoung2771
    @jonathanyoung2771 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Idk if it would've changed anything but wouldn't the brightstone make 3 mana each time since there's a dockside in play as well?

  • @Hashbrown1682
    @Hashbrown1682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the word Dylan was looking for with Dockside being a catch card is *Equalizer*

  • @justusnation66
    @justusnation66 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Dylan, 4:40, brightstone counts ALL goblins om the field. Your 2 krarks and cams dockside means its at least 3 red

  • @mariochavero5390
    @mariochavero5390 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been 2 days since I watched this video came back to comment how funny that "I'm Cam" moment was hahahahaah wtf keep the good content guys :)

  • @TheNineteeners
    @TheNineteeners ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool game. I really do not understand how it ended but I know it was cool. Would love to see some more in depth explanations of cEDH wins, it took me a long time to properly figure out Thassa's Oracle properly.

    • @cjm8836
      @cjm8836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kiki jiki targets zealous conscripts to make a token copy of it which comes in and targets Kiki jiki as the creature to untap and take control of. From there you. Just keep making zealous copies untapping the Kiki each time and then when you have enough, move to combat and swing out with all the zealous conscript copies

    • @augustcross2305
      @augustcross2305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The slightly confusing part of the ending is that Cam had assembled MULTIPLE ways to combo into infinite combat steps.
      He sacrificed the Ranger Captain of Eos to activate its ability, preventing his opponents from casting noncreature spells that could stop him (some kind of instant that would remove his key creatures). In this case, the key creature is Combat Celebrant. Its ability lets you Exert it while you're declaring it as an attacker. As you're tapping it to attack, you can say that you are "exerting" it, which means it wouldn't untap during the start of your next turn, and in exchange, it untaps all of your other creatures and gives you a 2nd combat step. BUT, exert only prevents it from untapping during the start of your turn and won't stop you if you untap it some other way.
      So, Cam could technically do stuff with the enter-the-battlefield trigger of Zealous Conscripts, because it says to untap the target creature as a part of the effect, meaning that the Combat Celebrant would be untapped during the extra combat to attack and exert all over again. However, he realized that he had other, simpler combos assembled at that point.
      With Rionya OR Kiki-Jiki, he could do similar cheats to exert Combat Celebrant an infinite number of times until he's attacked his opponents down to 0. Let's say Cam attacks and exerts his Combat Celebrant. Before he moves on and does anything else, he can activate Kiki-Jiki to create a copy of Combat Celebrant with haste. When he goes to his 2nd combat (from the Celebrant's exert ability), Combat Celebrant's Exert ability also untaps other creatures, including the Kiki-Jiki. So during the 2nd combat, he can do it all over again... He attacks with the copy of Combat Celebrant that he made using Kiki-Jiki's ability and then he exerts it to get a 3rd combat, but now that his Kiki-Jiki is untapped again, he can make a NEW copy of Combat Celebrant to use on the next extra combat step. Over and over...
      A simpler version is possible with his Rionya, since it creates copies of his creatures without even tapping. Every time he starts a new combat, Rionya's "at the start of your combat" will trigger and give him a new copy of Combat Celebrant to exert and get his next combat step.

    • @augustcross2305
      @augustcross2305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm realizing I probably could have given an even simpler explanation, but I hope the comment helps nonetheless!

    • @antonypistachio5476
      @antonypistachio5476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@augustcross2305 Not even. He went the even simpler route and just copied Conscripts over and over with Kiki and took control of his Kiki every time untapping it. No need for extra combats when they die in one combat.

  • @sylviekling508
    @sylviekling508 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Happy Play to Win day everyoneee

  • @zaneearldufour
    @zaneearldufour ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shorikai is such an awesome commander for a UW Control fan

  • @SpitePlays
    @SpitePlays ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice music choice towards the end. Also awesome decks love to see shorikai

  • @cakgrim
    @cakgrim ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content! Your videos have helped me to play better in CEDH. Would love to see BloodPod again!

  • @SqueezeBurger
    @SqueezeBurger ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't spell Winota without WIN, BABYYYYY

  • @deggles
    @deggles ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yuriko may not be the best 2 color deck, but it’s still the best 2 color deck

  • @alanschellenberger9356
    @alanschellenberger9356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Krarkashima is a wild deck. I swear everytime I play against it, it presents a win every turn. Any tutor gets jeskas will + gamble and, well, then it's breach o'clock.
    This pod was great for Winota though. Krark forces the blue decks to save/spend resources stopping it, and Winota gets ignored. Had Dylan been on a non-proactive storm deck I think Winota would have been perceived as archenemy and had a much harder time

  • @lazerdemowolf
    @lazerdemowolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I believe at 4:16 Dylan should have 4 triggers after the win. 1 from the original cast by storm kiln, 2 from tavern after the win and 1 more from storm due to the copy by the win.

  • @ImaBearEtc
    @ImaBearEtc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    play to win in the morning? Day absolutely made

  • @Manifibell
    @Manifibell ปีที่แล้ว

    Winota is amazing! I have version of her as well. Never seen myself as a Boros cedh player, but she is really fun.

  • @Draco137YT
    @Draco137YT ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing those OG print Relinquished and Black Luster Soldier used sleeveless kinda hurt

  • @danielchaves9664
    @danielchaves9664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice win by Cam, but Dylan had the funniest turns

  • @vladsergref
    @vladsergref ปีที่แล้ว

    7:10 you got a point that man is squinjling

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow you went Kinnan and Winota - you actually went the 2 best 2 color commanders! Amazing! Historic first!

    • @RitzyJ
      @RitzyJ ปีที่แล้ว

      Yuriko is just as good based on tournament results 🙃 rankings prolly go something like 1. Winona 2. Kinnan 3. Yuriko

  • @zchadowhd
    @zchadowhd ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a really cool one to see. I love storm!

  • @Lumautis
    @Lumautis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was super thrown off the whole time not seeing tyler in kinnan. 😂

  • @signisakanades1329
    @signisakanades1329 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That win on Heat Shimmer would have copied it and you would get to make a copy of something, in this case potentially a metamorphed recruiter right? Was that part missed?

    • @matthewspear2053
      @matthewspear2053 ปีที่แล้ว

      The heat shimmer was exiled so it couldn't be copied.

    • @tonyanthony6915
      @tonyanthony6915 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The copy is still created. Krark still sees the spell even if it is not on the stack, hence why you can lose a flip returning it to hand and still copy it. He could've copied Imperial Recruiter grabbing Spellseeker and found a card draw spell through that.

    • @matthewspear2053
      @matthewspear2053 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tonyanthony6915 you're right, my bad

    • @signisakanades1329
      @signisakanades1329 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better than Card Draw, Could have found Void Snare to bounce the Drannith, and the spellseeker to find some other wincon (or the Mind's Desire in Hand)

  • @anthonyfinnimore7394
    @anthonyfinnimore7394 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved watching Dylan try not to laugh after having clearly not pulled himself together during the intro takes. Love seeing how much you guys enjoy making this!! 😂

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Boros... you have come far in these last few years. I remember when you were a meme. in casual, Boros has always been strong, but not like this. I remember losing hard to Aurelia the war leader and such back in the day. we had a player in my playgroup that just loved playing boros.
    Winota is very powerful, but is it better than Kinnan? maybe... not sure.

  • @Morristung33
    @Morristung33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you guys do more LOTR cedh decks ?

  • @joshthiedeman4484
    @joshthiedeman4484 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if you tried to just go off with twin flame into arbitrary amounts of krark, probably more likely to win, then can use the mage as a third backup to win the game.

  • @joskajiri
    @joskajiri ปีที่แล้ว

    "thats why we aired it :dddd" 💖

  • @marlonlam6959
    @marlonlam6959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Krarkashima turns the stack into a cluster fuck everytime 😂

  • @danielvarano7163
    @danielvarano7163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winota! Always looking for more deck tech

  • @user-yh4td5vi6y
    @user-yh4td5vi6y ปีที่แล้ว

    Please add more sleeves to the merch shop they're so sick!

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว

      Check again, we have more! just updated!

  • @bigsil9922
    @bigsil9922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there discord, been loving the content but couldn't find one.
    Seperately the one off slightly more casual game a few weeks ago was awesome, would definitely love to see some more of those every so often.

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Discord access is given on patreon at the $1 level!

    • @bigsil9922
      @bigsil9922 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@PlaytoWinMTGAppreciate the reply 😎 might be getting a new supporter real soon hahaha

  • @DrkNinja_
    @DrkNinja_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 47 seconds in and I just want to take it a guess that it's either going to be Krark/Sakashima or big daddy Kinnan. Tyler's Kinnan list is insanely resilient, but Krark is extremely explosive

  • @Highwang
    @Highwang ปีที่แล้ว

    Tavern Sqwinglier is a great online name.

  • @alanoftheinfinite
    @alanoftheinfinite ปีที่แล้ว

    Best breakfast show on weekends

  • @DrkNinja_
    @DrkNinja_ ปีที่แล้ว

    God damnit Dylan! Stop making Winota so good! Great job Cam for getting the dub, and protecting your win

  • @Razzia334
    @Razzia334 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next week - which Yisan deck is the best in cEDH

  • @BuleGamer96
    @BuleGamer96 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both krark, sakashima and winota are a madnes, funny game

  • @M_orcan
    @M_orcan ปีที่แล้ว

    my favourite treasure card: Tavern Squidward

  • @bruvaroni
    @bruvaroni 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Based solely on results it's captive kingpin I believe

  • @PrimeShifter
    @PrimeShifter ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally my favorite, the one I have an attachment to :krarkashima:.!!

  • @thebombgoesboom1
    @thebombgoesboom1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Krark, the thumbless my beloved

  • @ryanheinbach6374
    @ryanheinbach6374 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a simple man. I see Winota, I click like

  • @somiarus
    @somiarus ปีที่แล้ว

    taigam turns is also pretty good

  • @frankdetank9126
    @frankdetank9126 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I missed a video, sorry 😢. Have you considered making a best enchantress deck in cEDH video?

  • @psyonicpanda
    @psyonicpanda ปีที่แล้ว

    Equalizer is what the Dockside was.

  • @lokumo13
    @lokumo13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “You and I did a lot kore this game.” “That’s why we aired it.” Lmaooo
    Honestly, Winota is a POWER HOUSE, but tbh, with tournament metas skewing things here and there, esp with Kinnan and Krarkshima, Winota lost a bit of steam.

    • @jorjor500
      @jorjor500 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s also one of those things where the deck struggles when it can’t get a Winota to actually stick, and many people will tunnel her down until she’s off the board. (Which is probably the right play)

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Dylan where did you get those krark trigger tokens from?

  • @gunnarwuher
    @gunnarwuher ปีที่แล้ว

    "All interaction and FATTIES" - Kinnan.
    That needs to be a shirt lol

  • @playatrex209
    @playatrex209 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing Kinnan with all that mana and nothing to do with it feels like a crime🙏

  • @stefanschmid5994
    @stefanschmid5994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Teysa, Orzhov Scion

  • @jankzgsoldier9396
    @jankzgsoldier9396 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... Winota is cool... I'll give you that. But is the deck as stylish as the glorious hypnotoad... 😏 aka, ya boy GITROG!!

  • @alexandermalarkey3773
    @alexandermalarkey3773 ปีที่แล้ว

    I expected to see ob nixilis is crazy to me

  • @dimitriosdoulgeris4659
    @dimitriosdoulgeris4659 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dylan would actually generate 3 mana because it says for all goblins on the battlefield. Dockside plus 2 Krarks.

  • @baconboyvsgaming8983
    @baconboyvsgaming8983 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think krark is still better seeing how fast Dylan went off in one turn with 2 on the board was crazy

  • @MrNiri
    @MrNiri ปีที่แล้ว

    Were did you get the krak trigger tokens? Cheers from Denmark 🤟🏻

  • @theratboy_
    @theratboy_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I (assume) you all use proxies, are they just printed out and slipped in the sleeves infront of real cards? or are they physical cards?

  • @jroby8787
    @jroby8787 ปีที่แล้ว

    How often do you have fit the theme of the episode so Tyler can play kinnan

    • @jroby8787
      @jroby8787 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ong Tyler didn’t even play kinan

  • @MikeBelew
    @MikeBelew ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm no pro, by any means, but right now it seems like Winota just runs away with games when people don't have interaction FOR the Winota player. This game everybody blasted everything they had on krark/saka and winota just waltzed away.
    What's the play to disrupt the winota player while also keeping other decks from running away with the game?

  • @elijahmendez1476
    @elijahmendez1476 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m team Yuriko and Winota. So I’m satisfied with the dub😤✌🏾

  • @chronics23
    @chronics23 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your ritual wouldve made 3 mana per since there was a dockside on the field!

  • @starchaser6024
    @starchaser6024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is cam so fucking beautiful. Not a joke the guy is literally a male model.

  • @carboncuber3147
    @carboncuber3147 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the best 2 color deck in cEDH is obviously a Cromat deck with 99 lands. (/s)

  • @kyledarling9931
    @kyledarling9931 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Kinnan!

  • @Olivia-ev9hk
    @Olivia-ev9hk ปีที่แล้ว

    When I saw the title my mind just immediately replaced "two color" with Winota. Gameplay did not dissapoint.

  • @1s2dl3
    @1s2dl3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you guys think of prosper?

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good game. Hate watching Krark but glad of the results of this game and the best deck did win!

  • @rimesgaming9558
    @rimesgaming9558 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey cam can you play yuriko the tiger shadows?

  • @SoulSilencer89
    @SoulSilencer89 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the best 2 color deck in cEDH is either winota or yuriko

  • @MISFITSERAPH
    @MISFITSERAPH ปีที่แล้ว

    Squindular. Did I spell that right?

  • @kevintiemann6875
    @kevintiemann6875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yuriko…just because

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't cam just combo off with kiki jiki and zealous conscripts

  • @MOBYDICK2121
    @MOBYDICK2121 ปีที่แล้ว

    New video idea : super clickbaity title but it’s 13 minutes of Dylan and Cam fucking up the intro

  • @willzang3000
    @willzang3000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoa

  • @lavuair
    @lavuair ปีที่แล้ว

    Best 2 color, and no dimir listed?

  • @user-mm5vq4sf4j
    @user-mm5vq4sf4j ปีที่แล้ว

    greasefang best deck

  • @chriswilliams2559
    @chriswilliams2559 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn't Tyler playing kinnan?!?!?!

  • @bloopereell
    @bloopereell ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta get the new Ob-Nixilis, Captive Kingpin for two color Rakdos. Nuts new commander

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton ปีที่แล้ว

    No Gitrog?

  • @bubblebeeovg8874
    @bubblebeeovg8874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cam says "I hate English" me who had to learn it and speaks German u have no idea how hard a language can be mate

  • @SAIBOT64
    @SAIBOT64 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could have won possibly with Krark/sakashima still

  • @fungalgg2831
    @fungalgg2831 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I find the discord?

  • @freerunner1953
    @freerunner1953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm gonna comment nothing of relevance to see if I get a like.

  • @tomhinkle6411
    @tomhinkle6411 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How dare you say dockside should be white. You gotta give us mono red players something 😭

  • @idkgrim
    @idkgrim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No Meren, no carin' 😴

    • @idkgrim
      @idkgrim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe a little caring, as a treat

  • @Fogshaper
    @Fogshaper ปีที่แล้ว

    bois i'd clap y'all mindless on grolnok

  • @alleertmen3
    @alleertmen3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This game is made possible by 4 terribly annoying commanders

  • @Z3RO458
    @Z3RO458 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought Niv was the choice booooo