This movie is so underated, the visual, the music, the special FX are so great. Brandon Routh is excellent in the title role, great superheros movies is not about action only...!👍
That's because Routh extensively studied Christopher Reeves who absolutely nailed the charisma of Superman from the comics/cartoons, and that's what the new movies get so wrong.
Actually, if I can rebuttal 😂 I don’t think the story is the problem. I can think of a bunch of stuff wrong with this film, like Kate Bosworth as Lois or some of the pacing, but the story is not one of them. If you handed me this script, I would’ve thought this was a good movie, because you have to think that this is an homage to the Donner films and it’s the story of Superman’s comeback. In that respect, the story is good. It’s just the execution
The movie has great moments & visuals but overall it’s not a good movie. & Lex Luthor’s plan is trash & laughable 😂😂😂. Not to mention when he punches Supes & knocks him back like 20 feet 🤣.
All lies. She doesn't love him, only what he can do (particularly for her). She has no purpose as a character other than being arm candy and being the consistent damsel in distress that he drops everything for
nah this lois only loves supes cause his fame and powers. Hence the reason she doesn't know who clark is and clark never revealed his true identity. Even after having a child...
“How could you leave us like that?” Did you not just hear what Superman said, he heard that his planet was out there. He’s one of the last of his kind, if I were him I would’ve taken the same chance to see IF even some of my race were still alive
It is a pity Superman doesn't tell her that. But she really cought him of guard because at the same time he feels that as humans raised him maybe he owes them more. But at the same I think he hoped to find out what led to fall of his civilization and if there is any technology that would improve people's lives
Lois wouldn't or didn't expect Superman I should say to just take off without saying goodbye first, but he did, and because of it, Lois felt hurt and confused over his absence. (Can you imagine the love of your life someone you seemingly cared deeply for, would pack up their things and disappear ?) I'm not saying Superman owes the world an explanation for his reasoning to leave and comeback and expect everyone to welcome him in with open arm's ( with the exception of Lois of course) but that's what he did. 🤷🏽♂️ I understand Lois's disposition here. She still loves him.
As would I. After all, his home planet is gone and the whole world needs Superman. If I were Superman, I wouldn't bother trying to go back to a planet that has been obliterated
@@harrisonneves6007 He was lied to by so called astronomers that made it look like Krypton wasn’t totally destroyed and that there was the possibility of other Kryptonian survivors. Had he known conclusively about it beforehand, he wouldn’t have gone.
Fogjuicer How do you not know the man you are in love with just because of a pair of glasses and hair that is combed forward and to the side. She was the smartest person on the show
@@sharonpowell1969 Perception. She views superman as strong, courageous, Kind to a fault, and charismatic. She views Clark as... Clark. That is tall but a big goofball who is still very much a kansas farm boy adjusting to the city.
@@speedy2490 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. If you are friends with someone, you get to recognize the sound of their voice at least. So much so that if you hear them in another room, you know who it is. Once Lois had spent any amount of time with both Clark and Superman, she should have realized that they were the same person. Say what you want about Green Lantern, but I liked how they addressed the obvious. A mask didn't keep Carol from recognizing Hal considering the fact that she had known him for most of her life.
Well, to counteract that argument, she thinks of Clark as more of an acquaintance. Keep in mind that in this movie, Clark keeps trying to catch up with Lois and Lois doesn’t even bat an eyelash to that. She doesn’t interact with Clark as often as we think. Her most interaction with Clark in these films was in Superman II and even that was erased by a stupid kiss.
Watch this and it shows you why people dont recognize him as Superman immediately. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtNUu6Lf9mVU&ved=2ahUKEwiJ9s2r_sLmAhVQCM0KHdeBBf0Qo7QBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw0rcnyV3oUu88_0NbSPuVmP
OMO goshywoshy no way. Reeve was a beautiful man. Watch the scene where he visits Lois in her garden apartment. Reeves facial structure was much nicer.
IT sucks at how great he was and how he channeled Reeves' Superman; but at how garbage the plot and direction of this movie was. Such wasted potential.
Yeah, it's kinda the same for me. But it needs to be Brandon. He did it spot on, and the music and suit, Yes! But when I see Henry or the other ones, I don't have the same feelings. We just need Brandon as superman again.
@@MatthewMurdockLawyer He bowed out and for good reason. He has a wife and a family. Brandon is a family man and a genuinely good person with a warm and kind heart. When I was a kid and saw rhis I didn't know that he was married and had kids. But even now, he will always be my Superman.
I don't think people REALLY understand that ‘Superman Returns’ (2006) was a direct sequel to ‘Superman 2.’ That's why Luthor knows where the Fortress of Solitude is and how Superman knocked up Lois. Most people I hear say that they just didn’t really like how Brandon Routh portrayed Superman, but Brandon Routh captured the spirit of Chris Reeves perfectly. He looks just like him at that age (Reeves was also in his late 20s during the filming of the first 2 movies) and totally sold me on this being the same boy scout/awkward dork character from those films. I agree Kate Bosworth was miscast being too young to play Lois (she was 23, while Margot Kidder was older than Reeves during the earlier movies), but as far as acting goes she, much like Routh, captured old Lois very well. Luthor seducing a rich old lady to get him out of jail and inherit her money sounds like something he'd do in the past movies. It's absurd comedy! A staple of the old films. And most people complain that the ending was quick and convenient when that was the case with the earlier films as well (time reversal, anyone?). Overall, I love this movie and it gets more shit than it deserves.
No thats why the movie sucks. Superman 2 ends with superman promising the world that he will never let them down again only for the dude to abandon earth less than like 2 weeks later. Its gotta be that way considering lois would be pregnant with his baby. Its like how at the end of the dark knight how gordon makes this big speech about how batman will be gothams watchful protector only for the dark knight rises to say he gave up being batman that very night and abandoned gotham for nearly a decade. Shit writing trumps all.
@@TheMovieHowze I love this movie but that one thing I cant stand. Even if Krypton was back. Why would Superman leave everything he's made here to chase a ghost world he's only heard about from Jor-El. There's no way he would fit there given his Earth culture also. It just seems like an excuse to push the film along, create artificial drama and call it Superman Returns.
@@christopherwashi because he’s an alien. No matter how long he’s lived on earth and how human his heart is he simply is not physically human. He doesn’t even age the same as humans. Why do kids want to find their bio parents when they already have parents? Add heat vision, flying and super speed and strength that’s more than enough to make someone feel ostracized. He wants to know more about his heritage. He literally has no one else to turn to other than his dead dad.
@@christopherwashi as foreign as he would be, hed at least be with people who are like him and can teach him more about his heritage than what his father's artificial intelligence tells him..a lot of people can relate to that actually
@@christopherwashi It wasn't in the final cut of the film but the idea was that not only had astronomers found Krypton, they'd found it intact. It had never blown up. Superman is the adoptive son of the Kents. He loves them, they're the only parents he's ever known but a lot of adopted children want to know where they came from and if possible, reconnect with their birth family. That's the crux of the whole thing. What Superman doesn't know though is that the astronomy story was fake. Lex Luthor planted the story, hoping to send Superman to his death. That bit was in the video game but it was part of the idea for the movie.
I will always love this superman movie. Always!! Brandon was the perfect superman. Sad he didn't get a second chance at it. You could tell who was Clark (clumsy and nervous) and who was supes (assertive and a hero). I love Henry, but he couldn't pull off the split of personality thing. Clark acted like supes the whole time.
Especially now that Lex Luthor has moved on from his original scheme to get rid of California and now steal Superman's crystals from his fortress and now wants what demigod Prometheus wanted
Imagine if someone had come up top looking for her and just found her shoes... they would probably think that she had jumped off the roof or something!
Kate, Brandon... and everyone, of the rest of the cast, and crew - you were a part of cinematic perfection. So much went on within this film - so much it went over many's heads. But certainly not mine nor millions of others! Cheers
Lol she was pissed Superman smashed and dashed. But he had a good reason to leave and plus had he known he got her pregnant he probably wouldn’t have left
nr99 that was pretty creepy when you think about it, it was my fav superman movie for sure but if you think about it... isnt jor-el and his mom watching over him..? even if they arent thats creepy to think jor-el couldve interrupted them while they were having sex
Considering Brandon had to follow in the shadow of Chris Reeves he did a great job. I love that FlashbackFM does these in their proper wide screen format.
@@rainbow8569 they were selected because their approximate looks matched the original type that the creators had in Mind, actually an idealization of their desired mix between a Jewish Superhero (from where there is Biblical precedent) and an Irish Circus strongman, included the similarity of outfits they worn since the XiX century. The reason why light blue was chosen was also the same as done by Circus acrobats, back in the Day they also knew the effects that electric-blue-like has, it gives an impression of being faster in moves than clad in any other colors. The red cape was also, the one that Romans wore flying on the wind on a Triumphal parade across their city center. The combination of red&blue was also the one some athletic clubs were adopting for their sports teams in the Victorian Age
@@adventureszindagi891he's the best personality of superman: gentle yet serious. I would feel safe with him. I can't say this about Henry Cavill's superman tho.
Problem is they tried to recreate the original movies. Roth kind of looks like Christopher Reeve and sounds a lot like him, but he just doesn't play the character as well. He has no emotion in his face or voice. I'm sure most people just didn't like the fact that he seemed like a cheap knock off of Reeve. Truth is Christopher Reeve will always be Superman, and nobody will play the roll better. With that said, I really wanted a sequel to see what happened with his son, and was hoping that his acting improved. They could have made a cool sequel with little Superkid.
They had the right tone. They had a good Superman and a pretty good Lex Luthor. They just shot themselves in the foot by following the original almost beat by beat.
Thomas Fleig They did that because Superman Returns is a sequel to Superman 1 and 2, but what it does do is cut out Superman 3 and 4 from the continuity.
@@thefurrybastard1964 No, this is essentially the Kingdom Come Superman whose lois basically died the same way. CW simply don't have the rights to use the Name 'Joker'
The Batman It’s not since that wouldn’t make any sense. Superman would absolutely call Joker a reject and it’s just a line that was written to get around not saying his name. It’s not that deep.
To, everyone, involved in SR's creation. Thank you. Such a lovely, hopeful, caring masterpiece on film. It has not been improved upon really. Not sure if it ever can. Thank you again.
@@adriboy01 nah man of steel is mediocre like literally it got Clark Kent wrong and superman wrong like he’s treated as a Jesus figure the entire time with the movements and all also not to mention superman is a complete war dog like he didn’t even care if there were civilians everywhere he was just fighting and bashing zod and the kryptonite into buildings and everywhere.
Just saw this on netflix and its as good as it was when i saw it for the first time. Really good quality all throughout the film, in terms of visuals, detail, sound effects etc. They don't make em like this anymore
Lois: The world doesn’t need a savior...and neither do I. What are you talking about, Lois!? You wouldn’t survive 5 minutes without Superman. For the past 5 years, you’ve probably been saved by Batman.
With all the bullshit talk/questioning the relevance Superman in modern day, _this movie's "world doesnt need a savior" narrative will likely become more & more relevant as time goes on._ Wish it got a legit sequel. I know Brandon is down for another go at the cape.
Superman "What do you hear?” Lois “Nothing” Superman “I hear everything. You say the world doesn’t need a savior, but every day, I hear people crying for one
Brandon put so much of his heart and soul into this role it was so incredibly fulfilling to see him reprise it for Parts 2-3 (...plus a tiny bit of Part 5...) to the CW's massive Arrowverse crossover event "Crisis on Infinite Earths".
Lois tells superman that she doesn't need a savior, well when the plane was nose diving at over 800mph, plummeting to her certain death, she surely needed a savior then
I just love how everything in this movie is a melancholic and darker version of the 1977 movie, from the interview to the flight to Luthor’s “evil plan”. I mean, sure, it could’ve been executed better, but the idea itself is awesome.
Ikr. And it is not emotionless like MoS. I just wish the dialogue more lively. And my favourite is of course the father-son moment. I like when the writer humanize super heroes. That's why I can never understand with avenger and justice League. It seems like robot movie for young adult male.
No those events still happened, on this earth, just slightly forward in time Originally they took place in 1978 but here they took place in 1998, Superman 2 happens in 2000, and a year later Clark leaves in 2001, goes missing for 5 years and returns in 2006. It wouldn’t make sense if it was in real time because Lois, Lex, Jimmy and the others would be really old and to prove this even further look at the technology
He sure was. This SM had finer control over his powers. I do like Cavill, too. But notice how he lifts both of them and Lois doesn't even notice. He vaporizes shards of glass, hears everything, lifts Kitty's car ever so gently. He is strong and powerful, but doesn't act like some strongman. He embodies the humanistic, friendly neighbor qualities Reeve wanted us to take away from the character.
It's too bad James Gunn is dead set on casting newbies for his Universe, would have liked to have seen Routh as Superman on the big screen again. Crisis was awesome.
*I GOT HIS AUTOGRAPH. I WROTE A LETTER SAYING I LOVE HIM AS SUPERMAN, AND BECAUSE HE PLAYS THE TRUMPET, I TOLD HIM I PLAY PIANO AND WOULD LOVE TO JAM WITH HIM ONE DAY. HE GAVE ME MY FAVORITE POSE AND SAID "I HOPE YOUR PIANO IS GOING WELL". I FRAMED IT.*
This is the superman I grew up with. I miss him(yes, I know, he reprised the role on the Cw shows, but that isn’t the same. This should’ve gotten a sequel.)
Sorry but I felt Lois had every right to be pissed at Superman in this movie. He knocked her up then disappeared to leave her to raise their hybrid child.
Yeh but he left for a important reason! Something that was bigger than him, also he handled all this afterward like a man, he didnt get involved again, he didnt boot out that human guy and take his son back, he stayed away but he let her know "I'm always around".
Yes,he needed to find out if there were anymore survivors of his home planet,Krypton,when astronomers said they found it and Superman had to see it with his own eyes.
Sorry, no. She was being petty and allowing her personal relationship to dictate her story. She used the story to vent her personal frustrations and sold enough people on the idea to get a Pulitzer. Maybe she didn't need Superman, but the world very much did. He is more than just the guy who saves people. He has to be, because he can't realistically save everyone. He represents the best in people, as do many extraordinary people in the real world.
Brandon Routh was a great Superman in the vein of Chris Reeve. He even speaks like him. I wish he had another chance to play Superman in a better film.
@@trevonpernell0814 Nah, Smallville was too much unnecessary teen drama (no truth, justice, and the american way apparently) and Tom played it well, so glad Routh was in superman returns instead.
@@speedy2490 Makes sense. I do think that Routh should've been used for the small screen instead of the big screen, considering that he wouldn't have had as much of a hard time to try to fill in the shoes of Christopher Reeve.
Christopher Reeves will always be my #1 Superman. This movie was in the works for years and its too bad Reeves never got to play him again. But I think Brandon Roth nailed it! He captured the essence of Superman the way Reeves did and gave a great performance.
Subarna Figo No, he watched her tuck it in there earlier, when she was talking to Clark about something and for some stupid reason dumped her purse out onto the floor.
Brandon did an excellent job in the acting of the character, he was perfect in that role. Scenes like this, he owns the screen and does it naturally. He wasn't as great as Henry at the physicality part, fight scenes, etc. If they could combine the two of them, you'd have a perfect Superman.
To be clear,I only have watch this scene but this is my opinion. To be honest,superman is not obligated to stay there forever and protect them. He has his own life and have the freedom to do whatever he wants. He doesn't have the responsibility to protect them. He didn't sign up to be their protector,he only does it out of pure goodness. So no one can actually blame superman for leaving. He is carrying a responsibility which he isn't obligated to carry in the first place. Like you can be good at fighting,but you are not obligated to be a police officer or a security guard. You can choose whatever you want to be. Just like how superman also has a choice Of course it would be nice to have a man like him protecting the city. But the people have to remember he is not obligated to protect them so they cannot blame him for not doing the job as it isn't his job at the first place. They should be grateful that he is willing to use his powers for good without anything return instead of just blaming him for having the freedom to choose to go somewhere else. Omg,he has feelings too. He is not the people's bodyguard 24/7
He wouldn't have to ask me twice! Wouldn't have to say 'please.' I'd go wherever he wanted to take me. Any-freakin-time! I really need another Brandon Routh Superman movie. He's incredible as both Clark and Superman.
The need to go back and see Brandon Routh in his prime at 24 as Superman. He is so magnificent and I get lost in his princely face. I miss this classic Superman, we never saw him again after the Henry Cavill type
“How could you leave us like that?” “Well thing is Lois, I heard that they found remains of my home planet and there might be other Kryptonian survivors out there too. Remember Zod and his crew? I had to try didn’t I? Wouldn’t you if you thought you might not be the only survivor of your race?”
In Superman's defense, Lois didn't tell him about Jason being his child which is why she's mad at him. Plus, Superman had a lot of questions about his homeworld that he needed answered. I know what I'm going to say will earn me some hate, but Lois is being selfish.
I get it on both sides, Lois has every right to be hurt, but superman’s also justified in wanting to see the remains of krypton as he feels lonely and alienated as he’s the last of his kind, both of their feelings are perfectly valid
I thought this was good. But the director was trying to redo Superman the movie. And not everyone got that or got that he was trying to bring Superman to not only adults but to a new Generation. Also the studio wanted to make more then half a billion in the U.S.
No offense to Henry Cavill or the Tyler fellow, but Brandon Routh is Christopher Reeves reborn, and should have continued playing Superman for the next 20-25 years, in SnyderVerse, ArrowVerse, the current family drama show, and GunnVerse.
I 100% agree, I hope he gets to play superman again through an elseworlds project, when he returned in Crisis on infinite earths, his universe was destroyed and then rebooted, this allows DC to bring Brandon Routh back and do anything they want as he now has a clean slate, they can even use the multiverse reboot to separate his universe from Christopher Reeve’s universe
@@p.p3152 Yeah... I mean, I can't fathom why they did not bring Routh back for this SuperFather show at least. He is the perfect age to play the father of two kids.
The world needs this kind of Superman. Gentle, kind, polite.
He has experience
Much better than homelander and Omni man
@@Karlebow571 That's an understatement. Don't you think?
Well James Gunn was gonna do it now
Nope the world needs Homelander
Routh got the perfect balance of charming charismatic Superman with contemplative and burdened Superman. He’s my favorite.
@loulie1997 - I think him and Christopher Reeve were both good "Supermen"
I'm doing my best!😢 I don't have his abilities! I wake up in agony
Yes he was totally
This movie is so underated, the visual, the music, the special FX are so great. Brandon Routh is excellent in the title role, great superheros movies is not about action only...!👍
That's because Routh extensively studied Christopher Reeves who absolutely nailed the charisma of Superman from the comics/cartoons, and that's what the new movies get so wrong.
@guyverjay your brain is horrible.
@guyverjay the horrible that s you hater blind go away
Actually, if I can rebuttal 😂
I don’t think the story is the problem. I can think of a bunch of stuff wrong with this film, like Kate Bosworth as Lois or some of the pacing, but the story is not one of them. If you handed me this script, I would’ve thought this was a good movie, because you have to think that this is an homage to the Donner films and it’s the story of Superman’s comeback. In that respect, the story is good. It’s just the execution
The movie has great moments & visuals but overall it’s not a good movie. & Lex Luthor’s plan is trash & laughable 😂😂😂. Not to mention when he punches Supes & knocks him back like 20 feet 🤣.
It's amazing how these two love each other. Lois isn't just the girl Superman saves, she is the one who knows him better than anyone.
true
All lies. She doesn't love him, only what he can do (particularly for her). She has no purpose as a character other than being arm candy and being the consistent damsel in distress that he drops everything for
nah this lois only loves supes cause his fame and powers. Hence the reason she doesn't know who clark is and clark never revealed his true identity. Even after having a child...
@@ammolator You do know this movie is a part of Christopher Reeve's Superman continuity where Lois actually knows Clark is Superman?
“How could you leave us like that?”
Did you not just hear what Superman said, he heard that his planet was out there. He’s one of the last of his kind, if I were him I would’ve taken the same chance to see IF even some of my race were still alive
It is a pity Superman doesn't tell her that. But she really cought him of guard because at the same time he feels that as humans raised him maybe he owes them more. But at the same I think he hoped to find out what led to fall of his civilization and if there is any technology that would improve people's lives
Lois wouldn't or didn't expect Superman I should say to just take off without saying goodbye first, but he did, and because of it, Lois felt hurt and confused over his absence. (Can you imagine the love of your life someone you seemingly cared deeply for, would pack up their things and disappear ?) I'm not saying Superman owes the world an explanation for his reasoning to leave and comeback and expect everyone to welcome him in with open arm's ( with the exception of Lois of course) but that's what he did. 🤷🏽♂️ I understand Lois's disposition here. She still loves him.
As would I. After all, his home planet is gone and the whole world needs Superman. If I were Superman, I wouldn't bother trying to go back to a planet that has been obliterated
Isn’t supergirl out there somewhere?
@@harrisonneves6007
He was lied to by so called astronomers that made it look like Krypton wasn’t totally destroyed and that there was the possibility of other Kryptonian survivors. Had he known conclusively about it beforehand, he wouldn’t have gone.
"Clark?"
"Just a guy I work with, with your exact height and build and face, but with glasses."
Fogjuicer How do you not know the man you are in love with just because of a pair of glasses and hair that is combed forward and to the side. She was the smartest person on the show
@@sharonpowell1969 Perception. She views superman as strong, courageous, Kind to a fault, and charismatic. She views Clark as... Clark. That is tall but a big goofball who is still very much a kansas farm boy adjusting to the city.
@@speedy2490 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. If you are friends with someone, you get to recognize the sound of their voice at least. So much so that if you hear them in another room, you know who it is. Once Lois had spent any amount of time with both Clark and Superman, she should have realized that they were the same person. Say what you want about Green Lantern, but I liked how they addressed the obvious. A mask didn't keep Carol from recognizing Hal considering the fact that she had known him for most of her life.
Well, to counteract that argument, she thinks of Clark as more of an acquaintance. Keep in mind that in this movie, Clark keeps trying to catch up with Lois and Lois doesn’t even bat an eyelash to that. She doesn’t interact with Clark as often as we think. Her most interaction with Clark in these films was in Superman II and even that was erased by a stupid kiss.
Watch this and it shows you why people dont recognize him as Superman immediately. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtNUu6Lf9mVU&ved=2ahUKEwiJ9s2r_sLmAhVQCM0KHdeBBf0Qo7QBMAB6BAgAEAI&usg=AOvVaw0rcnyV3oUu88_0NbSPuVmP
this superman is the most adorable and handsome one of them all
Too late. He's The Atom/Ray Palmer on Arrow/The Flash/The Legends.
Mm, that's debatable. Tom Welling is close rival if you ask me.
OMO goshywoshy no way. Reeve was a beautiful man. Watch the scene where he visits Lois in her garden apartment. Reeves facial structure was much nicer.
Noah Roma Henry Cavill is hot too
How to comapre him with Reeve?
I don’t care what anyone says, I love Brandon as Superman!
he's not a bad Superman, but not as good as Christopher Reeve
@@gregorbegger9291 well, duhh
HE'S BETTER LOOKING
IT sucks at how great he was and how he channeled Reeves' Superman; but at how garbage the plot and direction of this movie was. Such wasted potential.
Too bad he’s atom now
Brandon was-and still is-my ultimate Superman crush. I became a huge Superman fan because of him.
Yeah, it's kinda the same for me. But it needs to be Brandon. He did it spot on, and the music and suit, Yes! But when I see Henry or the other ones, I don't have the same feelings. We just need Brandon as superman again.
@@MatthewMurdockLawyer He bowed out and for good reason. He has a wife and a family. Brandon is a family man and a genuinely good person with a warm and kind heart. When I was a kid and saw rhis I didn't know that he was married and had kids. But even now, he will always be my Superman.
This man is beautiful 😍
Superman looks good no Homo
Yes
Christopher reeve is the best looking Superman of em all.
I don't think people REALLY understand that ‘Superman Returns’ (2006) was a direct sequel to ‘Superman 2.’ That's why Luthor knows where the Fortress of Solitude is and how Superman knocked up Lois.
Most people I hear say that they just didn’t really like how Brandon Routh portrayed Superman, but Brandon Routh captured the spirit of Chris Reeves perfectly. He looks just like him at that age (Reeves was also in his late 20s during the filming of the first 2 movies) and totally sold me on this being the same boy scout/awkward dork character from those films.
I agree Kate Bosworth was miscast being too young to play Lois (she was 23, while Margot Kidder was older than Reeves during the earlier movies), but as far as acting goes she, much like Routh, captured old Lois very well.
Luthor seducing a rich old lady to get him out of jail and inherit her money sounds like something he'd do in the past movies. It's absurd comedy! A staple of the old films.
And most people complain that the ending was quick and convenient when that was the case with the earlier films as well (time reversal, anyone?).
Overall, I love this movie and it gets more shit than it deserves.
No thats why the movie sucks. Superman 2 ends with superman promising the world that he will never let them down again only for the dude to abandon earth less than like 2 weeks later. Its gotta be that way considering lois would be pregnant with his baby. Its like how at the end of the dark knight how gordon makes this big speech about how batman will be gothams watchful protector only for the dark knight rises to say he gave up being batman that very night and abandoned gotham for nearly a decade. Shit writing trumps all.
@@TheMovieHowze I love this movie but that one thing I cant stand. Even if Krypton was back. Why would Superman leave everything he's made here to chase a ghost world he's only heard about from Jor-El. There's no way he would fit there given his Earth culture also. It just seems like an excuse to push the film along, create artificial drama and call it Superman Returns.
@@christopherwashi because he’s an alien. No matter how long he’s lived on earth and how human his heart is he simply is not physically human. He doesn’t even age the same as humans. Why do kids want to find their bio parents when they already have parents? Add heat vision, flying and super speed and strength that’s more than enough to make someone feel ostracized. He wants to know more about his heritage. He literally has no one else to turn to other than his dead dad.
@@christopherwashi as foreign as he would be, hed at least be with people who are like him and can teach him more about his heritage than what his father's artificial intelligence tells him..a lot of people can relate to that actually
@@christopherwashi It wasn't in the final cut of the film but the idea was that not only had astronomers found Krypton, they'd found it intact. It had never blown up. Superman is the adoptive son of the Kents. He loves them, they're the only parents he's ever known but a lot of adopted children want to know where they came from and if possible, reconnect with their birth family. That's the crux of the whole thing.
What Superman doesn't know though is that the astronomy story was fake. Lex Luthor planted the story, hoping to send Superman to his death. That bit was in the video game but it was part of the idea for the movie.
Love how she says the world don’t need Superman but he litterally changed her destiny and saved her after she died so like come on now
I will always love this superman movie. Always!! Brandon was the perfect superman. Sad he didn't get a second chance at it. You could tell who was Clark (clumsy and nervous) and who was supes (assertive and a hero). I love Henry, but he couldn't pull off the split of personality thing. Clark acted like supes the whole time.
She was wrong. The world needs Superman. More than ever.
More than the world know
Especially now that Lex Luthor has moved on from his original scheme to get rid of California and now steal Superman's crystals from his fortress and now wants what demigod Prometheus wanted
@@harrisonneves6007 "What did my father always used to tell me?"
@@GLUBNOIR You're losing your hair?
@@harrisonneves6007 Before that
she cries and upset because she misses him so much..and because she loves him so much...
Imagine if someone had come up top looking for her and just found her shoes... they would probably think that she had jumped off the roof or something!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 hilarious comment
Michael Harrington
But then they’d look down and find no body
@@Homeboy_Brando boy, ain't nobody gone look down?
The Slingshot Kid
Why not? You never looked down a building before?
@@Homeboy_Brando I'm afraid of heights...
Kate, Brandon... and everyone, of the rest of the cast, and crew - you were a part of cinematic perfection. So much went on within this film - so much it went over many's heads. But certainly not mine nor millions of others! Cheers
Lol she was pissed Superman smashed and dashed. But he had a good reason to leave and plus had he known he got her pregnant he probably wouldn’t have left
Layah Jhene kinda ties in together with Superman II were they had sex at the Fortress of Solitude.
nr99 that was pretty creepy when you think about it, it was my fav superman movie for sure but if you think about it... isnt jor-el and his mom watching over him..? even if they arent thats creepy to think jor-el couldve interrupted them while they were having sex
@@99annanic But he didn't have his powers at that point
"smashed and dashed"
He could have at least told her about his trip to krypton. As a partner, she deserved to know that.
Considering Brandon had to follow in the shadow of Chris Reeves he did a great job. I love that FlashbackFM does these in their proper wide screen format.
I can see the shadow of Christopher Reeve from Brandon Routh ...
IF THERE'S A SHADOW THAT MEANS EITHER HE'S NOT A GOOD ACTOR OR THIS ROLE WAS NOT MEANT FOR HIM.
It is funny how reeves, routh and cavill do look similar in some way
@@libanisanunez4056 jesus
@@rainbow8569 they were selected because their approximate looks matched the original type that the creators had in Mind, actually an idealization of their desired mix between a Jewish Superhero (from where there is Biblical precedent) and an Irish Circus strongman, included the similarity of outfits they worn since the XiX century. The reason why light blue was chosen was also the same as done by Circus acrobats, back in the Day they also knew the effects that electric-blue-like has, it gives an impression of being faster in moves than clad in any other colors. The red cape was also, the one that Romans wore flying on the wind on a Triumphal parade across their city center. The combination of red&blue was also the one some athletic clubs were adopting for their sports teams in the Victorian Age
@@libanisanunez4056 If it's meant to be a continuation of Reeve's Superman then yes it is a good thing.
This movie has aged like fine wine
It's my favorite Superman movie. It is a poem, a work of art.
Man of Steel is a computer game compared to it.
Brandon's face was made to be Superman.🦸♂️
I don't know about his personality but like his face and Ilove his gentleness
@@adventureszindagi891he's the best personality of superman: gentle yet serious. I would feel safe with him. I can't say this about Henry Cavill's superman tho.
The similarity between Christopher Reeve and Brandon Routh is unnaturally accurate.
What a lovely scene.
This movie got so much right , a few tweaks and it could have been a classic.
Agreed. i reallly like it. I don't dislike any Superman film except maybe Superman 4 but then again I havent seen it so I can't judge.
"Would"?
Is...
Problem is they tried to recreate the original movies. Roth kind of looks like Christopher Reeve and sounds a lot like him, but he just doesn't play the character as well. He has no emotion in his face or voice. I'm sure most people just didn't like the fact that he seemed like a cheap knock off of Reeve. Truth is Christopher Reeve will always be Superman, and nobody will play the roll better. With that said, I really wanted a sequel to see what happened with his son, and was hoping that his acting improved. They could have made a cool sequel with little Superkid.
They had the right tone. They had a good Superman and a pretty good Lex Luthor. They just shot themselves in the foot by following the original almost beat by beat.
Thomas Fleig
They did that because Superman Returns is a sequel to Superman 1 and 2, but what it does do is cut out Superman 3 and 4 from the continuity.
Crisis On Infinite Earths crossover confirmed that this Lois died offscreen along with Jimmy Olsen & Perry White after being gassed by Joker. RIP.
According to the CW episode in question he was called the Reject. If it'd been the Joker, Superman would have named him as such.
@@thefurrybastard1964 No, this is essentially the Kingdom Come Superman whose lois basically died the same way.
CW simply don't have the rights to use the Name 'Joker'
Sasuke2ss They weren’t given permission by the CW. It’s not that they don’t have the rights because WB owns it all.
@@DanV900 Could be a dig at the Joker movie.
The Batman It’s not since that wouldn’t make any sense. Superman would absolutely call Joker a reject and it’s just a line that was written to get around not saying his name. It’s not that deep.
This is my fave superman movie. I was baffling my eyes out
To, everyone, involved in SR's creation. Thank you. Such a lovely, hopeful, caring masterpiece on film. It has not been improved upon really. Not sure if it ever can. Thank you again.
this movie and Batman begin should have been the start of the DCEU
This is a sequel to the Christopher Reeve movies
I agree. Those movies should have started the DCEU.
No lol. Man of Steel, even with some flaws in it, is a much better movie than this.
@@adriboy01 well I disagree
@@adriboy01 nah man of steel is mediocre like literally it got Clark Kent wrong and superman wrong like he’s treated as a Jesus figure the entire time with the movements and all also not to mention superman is a complete war dog like he didn’t even care if there were civilians everywhere he was just fighting and bashing zod and the kryptonite into buildings and everywhere.
I wish Brandon continued as Superman
I also love him as Superman.Hope he will get another movie of Superman.
What a great scene , Superman is a good and moral hero , it gives me the feeling of wanting to cry .
haha the "you really shouldn't smoke" is a direct reference to the equivalent scene in superman 78. I just came from watching that clip.
Just saw this on netflix and its as good as it was when i saw it for the first time. Really good quality all throughout the film, in terms of visuals, detail, sound effects etc. They don't make em like this anymore
Yeah, everything is Darkness and Deconstruction nowadays.
@@bradleyrenfroe2776 lol
This was so beautiful movie..sense of spiritual bonding..love this movie.😘
Lois: The world doesn’t need a savior...and neither do I.
What are you talking about, Lois!? You wouldn’t survive 5 minutes without Superman. For the past 5 years, you’ve probably been saved by Batman.
Joshua Taylor And when he can’t be arsed it’s Green Arrow, Flash or Wonder Woman.
Meanwhile in 2008
Batman:WHERE ARE THEY!
I CAN'T WITH THESE COMMENTS! 😂
The most handsome superman actor for me
The world doesn't need Superman? If she'd asked the people on that plane he saved, I bet they'd strongly disagree with her.
Lol, that included her‼️
Brandon,so handsome...
You know I remember this was one of my favorite Superman movies when I was a kid like about 7 or 8
LOIS and CLARK are MADLY in love with each other. They SHOW in their look. It says it all!!
With all the bullshit talk/questioning the relevance Superman in modern day, _this movie's "world doesnt need a savior" narrative will likely become more & more relevant as time goes on._
Wish it got a legit sequel. I know Brandon is down for another go at the cape.
Lois: "The world doesn't need a savior, and neither do I."
Superman: "Well you sure seemed to need one earlier today on the airliner, bitch!!"
😂
Superman: "I've got a jet airliner for you that begs to differ".
God damn, these comments! 😂
Mr. Snyder...this is the personality superman needs to have
Nolan's idea was to have superman sent zod into a phantom zone
Oh brother
I believe what you should say is..
Mr. Snyder, this is the superman actor we need to have
Brandon plays Superman really well
Superman "What do you hear?”
Lois “Nothing”
Superman “I hear everything. You say the world doesn’t need a savior, but every day, I hear people crying for one
Brandon put so much of his heart and soul into this role it was so incredibly fulfilling to see him reprise it for Parts 2-3 (...plus a tiny bit of Part 5...) to the CW's massive Arrowverse crossover event "Crisis on Infinite Earths".
Lois tells superman that she doesn't need a savior, well when the plane was nose diving at over 800mph, plummeting to her certain death, she surely needed a savior then
I just love how everything in this movie is a melancholic and darker version of the 1977 movie, from the interview to the flight to Luthor’s “evil plan”.
I mean, sure, it could’ve been executed better, but the idea itself is awesome.
Ikr. And it is not emotionless like MoS. I just wish the dialogue more lively. And my favourite is of course the father-son moment. I like when the writer humanize super heroes. That's why I can never understand with avenger and justice League. It seems like robot movie for young adult male.
No those events still happened, on this earth, just slightly forward in time
Originally they took place in 1978 but here they took place in 1998, Superman 2 happens in 2000, and a year later Clark leaves in 2001, goes missing for 5 years and returns in 2006. It wouldn’t make sense if it was in real time because Lois, Lex, Jimmy and the others would be really old and to prove this even further look at the technology
Lois: (tries to keep the fire on for her to smoke).
Superman: "You know, you really shouldn't smoke, Ms. Lane."
Maisam Abbas the first time I saw this movie I was like is Superman blowing out the lighter?.
He sure was. This SM had finer control over his powers. I do like Cavill, too. But notice how he lifts both of them and Lois doesn't even notice. He vaporizes shards of glass, hears everything, lifts Kitty's car ever so gently. He is strong and powerful, but doesn't act like some strongman. He embodies the humanistic, friendly neighbor qualities Reeve wanted us to take away from the character.
Didn't Chris Reeve do this with Margot Kidder's Lois? Even checked her lungs with his X-Ray vision, and saw that they were OK.
It's too bad James Gunn is dead set on casting newbies for his Universe, would have liked to have seen Routh as Superman on the big screen again. Crisis was awesome.
James Gunn did say there will be elseworld projects, maybe Brandon Routh can return as Superman for one of those🤷♂️
@@p.p3152 It'd be nice, I was always a fan
"how can you leave us like that?" Also meant lois and their son
*I GOT HIS AUTOGRAPH. I WROTE A LETTER SAYING I LOVE HIM AS SUPERMAN, AND BECAUSE HE PLAYS THE TRUMPET, I TOLD HIM I PLAY PIANO AND WOULD LOVE TO JAM WITH HIM ONE DAY. HE GAVE ME MY FAVORITE POSE AND SAID "I HOPE YOUR PIANO IS GOING WELL". I FRAMED IT.*
HELL YEA. I'm thinking about writing to him as well at some point
@@MatthewMurdockLawyer Do it. He is a great person.
This is the superman I grew up with. I miss him(yes, I know, he reprised the role on the Cw shows, but that isn’t the same. This should’ve gotten a sequel.)
Same, grew up with him as well. And he should get another chance. He's perfect for the role!
Look at that built, Brandon is definitely Superman. I love cavill's Superman too btw.
Sorry but I felt Lois had every right to be pissed at Superman in this movie. He knocked her up then disappeared to leave her to raise their hybrid child.
Yeh but he left for a important reason! Something that was bigger than him, also he handled all this afterward like a man, he didnt get involved again, he didnt boot out that human guy and take his son back, he stayed away but he let her know "I'm always around".
Yes,he needed to find out if there were anymore survivors of his home planet,Krypton,when astronomers said they found it and Superman had to see it with his own eyes.
Why don't people understand that Clark didn't know Lois got pregnant?
She's not really pissed as she is hurt at or by him.
Sorry, no. She was being petty and allowing her personal relationship to dictate her story. She used the story to vent her personal frustrations and sold enough people on the idea to get a Pulitzer. Maybe she didn't need Superman, but the world very much did. He is more than just the guy who saves people. He has to be, because he can't realistically save everyone. He represents the best in people, as do many extraordinary people in the real world.
Brandon Routh was a great Superman in the vein of Chris Reeve. He even speaks like him. I wish he had another chance to play Superman in a better film.
Now could you see Routh as Supes in Smallville instead of Tom Welling?
I'm pissed we never got a sequel...this movie was up against pirates of the Caribbean that year. Didnt meet expectations and the studio moved on.
@@trevonpernell0814 Nah, Smallville was too much unnecessary teen drama (no truth, justice, and the american way apparently) and Tom played it well, so glad Routh was in superman returns instead.
@@speedy2490 Makes sense. I do think that Routh should've been used for the small screen instead of the big screen, considering that he wouldn't have had as much of a hard time to try to fill in the shoes of Christopher Reeve.
@@trevonpernell0814 He does fit the small screen as seen in legends.
“The world doesn’t need a saviour” oh but it does, it really does.
The Superman 4 speech covers this topic really well, imo. The world really doesn't need a savior.
I like the story line, EXEPT Superman and Lois having a child together. Too early for going that approach.
Christopher Reeves will always be my #1 Superman. This movie was in the works for years and its too bad Reeves never got to play him again. But I think Brandon Roth nailed it! He captured the essence of Superman the way Reeves did and gave a great performance.
I love the movie...i think it's one of the best of superman
Love that I’ve already x-ray visioned you reaction after he says the right pocket..
Subarna Figo No, he watched her tuck it in there earlier, when she was talking to Clark about something and for some stupid reason dumped her purse out onto the floor.
The one thing I can never understand is how does she not see Clark in Superman.
The only difference is the glasses.
And the hair is exactly the same
Superman: "I read the article, Lois... Why did you write it?"
Lois: *We need Kong, the world needs him.*
AHDJDJSBDBDJDSKKXCK THE CHEMISTRYYYY THEYRE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL COUPLE OMG
Brandon Routh is a beautiful man.
This should have been done as the man of steel new storyline and everything all cuz he was a great superman
Brandon did an excellent job in the acting of the character, he was perfect in that role. Scenes like this, he owns the screen and does it naturally. He wasn't as great as Henry at the physicality part, fight scenes, etc. If they could combine the two of them, you'd have a perfect Superman.
SM wasn't about 'fighting'... his character was never brought to life to be that... rather to be 'protector'.
2.50 I absolutely love that background score
I remember this was the first movie I watched in cinema😭😭😭
This Superman movies was so underrated. I liked both Lois and Clark. Henry is amazing too and the characters in the script are good too.
Man when she says how could you leave us like that, she wasn’t talking about the planet.
To be clear,I only have watch this scene but this is my opinion.
To be honest,superman is not obligated to stay there forever and protect them. He has his own life and have the freedom to do whatever he wants. He doesn't have the responsibility to protect them.
He didn't sign up to be their protector,he only does it out of pure goodness. So no one can actually blame superman for leaving. He is carrying a responsibility which he isn't obligated to carry in the first place.
Like you can be good at fighting,but you are not obligated to be a police officer or a security guard. You can choose whatever you want to be. Just like how superman also has a choice
Of course it would be nice to have a man like him protecting the city. But the people have to remember he is not obligated to protect them so they cannot blame him for not doing the job as it isn't his job at the first place.
They should be grateful that he is willing to use his powers for good without anything return instead of just blaming him for having the freedom to choose to go somewhere else. Omg,he has feelings too. He is not the people's bodyguard 24/7
And that what she said to him, I'm sure that hurt him bad.
Brandon routh is the best Superman there is the perfect man of steel and no one can replace this character cause he is the greatest of all.
That face, that body and that confidence, so hard to imagine that later in the film Supes would be beaten to a pulp by Lex and his goons
He was in a very weakened state, due to exposure to Kryptonite.
Lol, "Clark?" Superman is the ultimate gaslighter.
I think he played the best Superman...he reminds me so much of Christopher Reeves, Hollywood didnt know how to utilize Routh what a shame.
Imagine canonically getting killed by the Joker later on in this universe
He wouldn't have to ask me twice! Wouldn't have to say 'please.'
I'd go wherever he wanted to take me. Any-freakin-time!
I really need another Brandon Routh Superman movie. He's incredible as both Clark and Superman.
Totally agree with your whole comment, Brandon is and always will be my favorite superman
I give the Brandon Routh Superman ten million Stars he is epic 😄
Is it just me or can I not imagine Christopher Reeve or the O.G Lois Lane saying these lines?
I would love to see Brandon return and do All Star Superman live action.
Great work making this movie
Still the greatest superhero of all time. 18 April 1938 until Infinity.
So lane had sex with Superman and still can't tell that he is kent
Yes, and she is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter to boot.
+Yash Rawat YOU do not pay all that much attention to detail.
I wonder if she tells him to put on glasses to make it kinky.
Montesama314 Or to relive her stupidity
The need to go back and see Brandon Routh in his prime at 24 as Superman. He is so magnificent and I get lost in his princely face. I miss this classic Superman, we never saw him again after the Henry Cavill type
It's sad to know this Superman's fate is very terrible
"Clark ?"
"Just a guy I work with."
Ouch, not even friend zoned. Work zoned.
That hurt him too
"The world does not need a savior." Said the karen who needed a lot of saving in this movie 🤷
Give the poor girl a break.
He’s back guy for crisis
“How could you leave us like that?” “Well thing is Lois, I heard that they found remains of my home planet and there might be other Kryptonian survivors out there too. Remember Zod and his crew? I had to try didn’t I? Wouldn’t you if you thought you might not be the only survivor of your race?”
"The world doesn't need a savior.. and neither do i"
Yeah keep telling that yourself when he saved your ass from that plane crash..
2007 ❤syperman returns was through the roof
you cut the most important part out!
_you say the world doesn’t need a saviour, but hear people beg for one_
In Superman's defense, Lois didn't tell him about Jason being his child which is why she's mad at him. Plus, Superman had a lot of questions about his homeworld that he needed answered. I know what I'm going to say will earn me some hate, but Lois is being selfish.
I get it on both sides, Lois has every right to be hurt, but superman’s also justified in wanting to see the remains of krypton as he feels lonely and alienated as he’s the last of his kind, both of their feelings are perfectly valid
I thought this was good. But the director was trying to redo Superman the movie. And not everyone got that or got that he was trying to bring Superman to not only adults but to a new Generation. Also the studio wanted to make more then half a billion in the U.S.
No offense to Henry Cavill or the Tyler fellow, but Brandon Routh is Christopher Reeves reborn, and should have continued playing Superman for the next 20-25 years, in SnyderVerse, ArrowVerse, the current family drama show, and GunnVerse.
I 100% agree, I hope he gets to play superman again through an elseworlds project, when he returned in Crisis on infinite earths, his universe was destroyed and then rebooted, this allows DC to bring Brandon Routh back and do anything they want as he now has a clean slate, they can even use the multiverse reboot to separate his universe from Christopher Reeve’s universe
@@p.p3152 Yeah... I mean, I can't fathom why they did not bring Routh back for this SuperFather show at least. He is the perfect age to play the father of two kids.
ya brandon is awesome as superman and the way he plays Clark Kent seems like a spiting image of Christopher Reeve.
My favourite it film is superman returns
My favourite it actor is Brandon routh
i need to rewatch this superman