U can still fight Harpys even WO the buggy as certain points along the edge of the desert have exposed desert away from the quicksand that still trigger desert mobs.
With magic breath the cave is a one stop trip if anyone wants to get magic breath go to the northern cave in the where abouts you can get Pandora's box and bad breath and manipulate the woman to use bad breath or was it the sting ray but either way it's definitely around those two
I can confirm for anyone wondering that using an elixer on dragon zombie is a guaranteed way to get Pandora's box. He uses it as a final attack when he dies and since an elixer causes death towards, it triggers guaranteed.
@@jakea3950 Elixirs guarantee Pandora's Box because they also max MP. Phoenix Downs , X-potions, and other curative items may not leave it with enough MP to cast.
Pandora's box is a final attack of the first zombie dragon you get to in the game, just like shadow flare for ultima weapon. So waiting around for it to use it is pointless, even counter productive if there's a chance it runs out of mp. Elixir kills it which is why it worked.
@@kaxeniakristelle7887 If I remember correctly it is an AOE so you should be able to put them all on one or put one on each of the active party members and it should work either way
2:54 if you have won the Shinra HQ mayor’s mini game by guessing the word on the first try you will be rewarded the elemental materia, equipping this with fire materia will nullify beta damage to the character you assigned it to. Helping you learn this enemy skill.
Additionally, put ur characters in the back row and use Tranquilizer's on them to give sadness. They'll take next to no damage. Poison the boss and ur good to g
The Harpy from which you can learn Aqualung remains available after you lost your buggy, but with a twist. You can still meet one in the surrounding area... with a Chocobo Lure. That's right, one of the chocobo encounters around Gold Saucer has a Harpy in it.
Also you can get in the desert with a gold chocobo, but if you've got one of those then you've already had access to the other method the entire time :P
A few comments: - Your character does not need to have a 4 multipier level to learn L4 Suicide (same goes for L5 Suicide). - The chocobo that appears with two levikrons is always level 16. - Zolom will only kick out characters that attack it, so have your learner solely on cure duty and they'll be fine.
Yeah none of my characters are Lvls dividable by 4. I still got it. The monsters only cast Lv4 Suicide when they are about to die. I got it right away.
The Enemy Skill materia is the most underrated materia. Big Guard and White Wind are so freaking powerful. Big Guard casts wall+haste buy for a costly 35 MP. White Wind fills the parties HP to the casters current HP. So if your HP is 3645 of a total 8442 everyone will get 3645 as well cure any negative status effects. Great spell.
Enemy Skill literally paved the way for basically every Blue Mage skill in the future, it reshaped an entire class/job. I'd say its one of the most important materias in FF7.
@@mnsn_4nth lmaooo no.. switch version is the same as every other "remastered" version, the watered down puss easy mode... PS1 version Is superior In every way
@@NeoAmonSeraphimExcept you waste the best years of your life to watch some animations in the original. Also being harrassed by random encounters makes the game only minimally harder and is more annoying than anything else. The insta limit cheat is kinda cheap though, but you don't have to use it.
L4 Suicide and L5 Death do not have to "land" on a character whose level is a multiple of 4/5. I'm positive I've learned it before when the attack misses. All that has to happen is the attack being "thrown" at the character, like all of the other skills.
The thing about Pandoras Box. It is true that you only get the one chance. But the trick to make the Zombie Dragon use it is to kill it immediately as fast as you can. Also, L4 Suicide can also be found in the area outside Bone Village. Best way I found to get Chocobuckle is in the Mideel area. The Chocobos levels there are always a multiple of 4.
Run away exactly 2222 times and NO MORE. Then when your party has maxed out HP later, you can cast chocobuckle on yourselves to INSTANTLY ENGAGE ALL LUCKY 7S MODE WHENEVER YOU WANT @_@
This sounds dope. One of my 100%FF7 files has a lv 99 cloud with 877mp so i can hp/mp switch materia, take it off, then use potions+high potions to start any battle with 7777s
or save yourself some grinding and run 1111 times and use it twice. but ultimately its a useless strat because you're reduced to 1 hp at the end of battle and this game is so easy there are way better strats that dont require hours of grinding
Great video, but here are some corrections/tips: 1) If an enemy skill is used on you and it misses, you still learn it. Accordingly, there is no need to worry about what level your characters are at to learn L4 Suicide and L5 death. Your video implies that if you level your whole team to 99, then you made these skills unable to be acquired, but thankfully that’s not the case. 2) For Magic Hammer, you don’t need to complete the Wutai mission first. Simply stay in the green grass area immediately where the tiny bronco lands without going toward Wutai, and you’ll fight the razorweeds that have it. 3) Death force can be used on the crater enemy that casts roulette to ensure that he doesn’t accidentally kill himself before you learn the skill. 4) Pandora’s box is the final attack for the first dragon zombie you encounter. You will 100% have it cast on you if you use an elixir on him, so that technique is perfectly effective. 5) Though you correctly noted that Pandora’s box and Trine are the only truly missable skills to have on all 4 materia, you might mention that the Battle Arena at Gold Saucer has Stilva, which you can manipulate to cast trine on you. However, crucially, enemy skills CANNOT be learned in the battle arena. Items you get from morphing opponents count, but enemy skills for some reason are unable to be learned. Trine is indeed annoying to get on all 4 materia, as the only way to do this is to delay ascending the Pagoda in Wutai until you have all 4 materia, meaning purposefully waiting to get Yuffie’s 4th level limit break and Leviathan materia. 6) Chocobos around the chocobo farm that spawn with the configuration you showed always are at level 16.
The Trine on 4th materia thing was always annoying to me, so now I just use Black Chocobo to add it in when reaching that point (obviously playing the PC version). I much prefer doing Wutai right after Rocket Town on "Disc 1".
Chocobuckle used to be insanely OP in the Japanese original version. It was fights ran away from TIMES your level. The level multiplier was removed from all subsequent releases.
I think dragon zombie does indeed only cast Pandora's Box as a final attack. But, you're right, once, per game, when you FIRST KILL one, it'll cast it. I'm fairly sure because I remember killing one of these only once in a run, all the way down to Jenova Synthesis, and it pretty much finished the fight with Pandora's Box too.
I remember driving myself insane trying to get this enemy skill. Cid had added effect-contain in his weapon (a massively underrated combo) and it always turned the dragon zombies to stone in 1 hit. They cant cast PB if you petrify them. Cannot believe I never thought to kill one by other means.
You don't have a fire ring the first time you reach the midgar zolom. Just equip elemental+fire materia on your armor and that halves the fire damage. Equip Talisman for extra +10 spirit and use it all on Barrett. You're good to go.
Elemental+fire materia on a piece of armor, inflict sadness, have the char with e skill to only use normal attacks/heals while others use bio and spells for more damage, zolom kicks out the player who's done the most damage. Which will generally be the bio caster and just keep pumping out spells then finish it off with a beta. Do this and I guarentee you'll get beta everytime the first time.
Also of note, the only way to master all 4 enemy skill materias is to not do the Yuffie sidequests til after you get the Highwind. Godo is the only one left with Trine after you've gotten the first 3 pieces and most people do the Yuffie sidequest right away, preventing Trine from ever being learned on the 4th piece. Purely for completion purposes as there is zero benefit to having more than 3 enemy skill materias.
You will still learn L4 Suicide even if player misses. There is a cue when the character learns it... He or she spins around instead of the usual reaction when got hit or missed.
@2:10 the level of the chocobo is tied to what enemies it appears with. So if you know that you don't need to use sense. Still this is awesome content, thank you.
Choco buckle can be used to trigger 7777 easily, just escape 22, 122, 222, 322 etc times and use it on a character with 999hp using MP swap materia, then just use potion or hi potion and heal to 7777. Easiest set up in my opinion. Unless you are willing to run away 2222 times then you can use it directly on a 9999 hp character to trigger it immediately.
Haha wow didn't expect a reply from a 2 years old comment. You just swap your HP back to more than 8000 by removing the MP to HP materia (use HP to boost your hp if you don't have enough), so you will be left with 777 HP, use potion (100 HP per use so 70 of potion for 7000 + your 777) or HI potion (14 Hi Potion to 7000 HP) heal yourself to 7777
You can get all the "kill" skills even if you're not the right lvl, like L4 suicide and L5 death. You don't need to be a lvl divisible by that lvl. You even showed that when you learned L5 death with cloud. He didn't die but still learned the skill. Also if you can't Death force on the unit with enemy skill you can learn death roulette with worrying about dying. It also works for the other 2 death skills.
Pandora’s Box is a final attack, so just kill the Dragon Zombie before he runs out of MP and he’ll always cast Pandora’s Box the first time you fight him. You have to have all four E. Skills equipped and none of them connected.
Not sure if this works on newer versions of the game but if you are hunting enemy skills exclusively putting all the materia that need to absorb that skill on the same character means they will all learn it, however if you equip a materia that already has it none will gain the skill.
Fun fact: You can, in fact, return to the Gaea Cliffs if you choose to snowboard, walk through the glacier and back up the cliffs. There is even a special bit of dialogue if you go to the very top and try to enter the crater while the barrier is active. You then run all the way back to the Glacier and can exit via that icy roller coaster room and walk back up to Icicle Inn. I have only done this on disc 2, after getting the Highwind. I don't know if it can be done on disc 3.
here's a trick I learned a while back: with 9999 health, and the chocobuckle skill, run away exactly 2222 times, then attack the character with 9999 life with chocobuckle, giving them 7777 health, making every attack do 7777 damage to the enemy. very handy if you wanna kill some tough enemies, because remember, with 100 hits, that's 777700 damage, so if you have the lucky 7 and kotr combined with hp absorb (all of these maxed out btw), then have counter with mime, again, maxed out, you can use kotr on ruby weapon and go have some lunch, return and he is dead since he counters with utima and that will create a cycle where you attack, making ruby attack, making you attack, refilling your life, making ruby attack and so on.
You don't need to be a level divisible by 4 in order to get L4 Suicide. The attack will "miss", but you'll still learn it. Also, fun fact: The Japanese version of Chocobuckle was FAR more useful. Basically the formula for determining damage was how many times you run away from battle times your current level. Needless to say, it wouldn't take all that long to reach the max of 9999, which made it one of the best spells in the game. For whatever reason they nerfed the crap out of it for Western releases, and now it's essentially useless (unless you're completely insane and/or have way too much time on your hands).
You can easily manipulate Ark Dragon to learn Flamethrower in the Mythril Mines. It has a 3/4 chance to use Flame Thrower on any given turn, and if it does, it always targets the party member with the highest current HP. So make sure your Enemy Skill materia is on the person with the highest current HP, and you'll learn it 100% of the time. Since Flamethrower does quite a lot of damage for this point in the game, you can also use this target-manipulation to train limit breaks for particular characters, too.
So I've been playing around with the dragon zombies apparently if you use white wind on them in does 9999 and the fight is over I did get Pandora's box on 3 enemy skill materia and I'm cool with that thanks a bunch for the upload helped a lot
12:25 interesting that Manipulate in this version (PS1?) didn’t have Magic Breath enemy skill available; in my iPhone version of FF7, the Dark Dragon has three skills available within one battle, and Magic Breath is the third. 👍🏻 great video!
Crap, you kind of beat me to it lol. But yes this is true, you just need to have the Chocobo Lure and you'll find a Harpy with a Chocobo. This is also how you can learn Aqualung if you miss the other opportunities.
I read that apparently Pandora's Box is an attack the dragon zombie will use as its Final Attack, so by giving it an elixir you are basically ensuring they will have enough MP to cast it... it seems.
Not sure about that...I've never tried the Elixir method but since it apparently works I can only surmise that perhaps the damage done by the healing takes precedence over the potential loss in MP so it is able to immediately use PB(?). I say this because Elixirs also restore MP as well as HP but other forms of restoring MP, such as Ethers and Turbo Ethers actually drain the undead monster's MP. I'm just speculating because it is kind of bizarre that Elixirs wouldn't deprive the DZ of it's MP if Ethers can. 🤔🤔
From my experience of doing 2 runs and getting all e skills: The only things I have to be worried about in terms of missables are to equip yuffie with the e skill materias that DON'T have trine before fighting godo, and to make sure all 4 materias are equipped on an alive party member when defeating a dragon zombie. Roulette was legit annoying to get on my first run. It took so long because it's purely rng who it hits, but the second time around I got it quickly Imo the e skills are extremely easy to get
These videos are definitely very helpful for ff7 and there so good, next time I play ff7 I’m definitely gonna collect what I have missed out in my last play through. Also I like the music in the background of your videos they are very good music.
Chocobuckle does NOT require L4 suicide and a susceptible chocobo, but it does make it much easier. You just really have to feed it a mimett (or sylkis I believe) green, and get it to within 1/32 of its HP with a single attack, without killing it. I did it on a lvl 13 chocobo using ???? enemy skill and moving materia around/drinking potions to make my character have 129 points missing from full HP. Also, Midgar Zolom can miss with Beta, and you'll still learn it. Might take some tries, but if you for some reason don't have fire+elemental on armor, it can be done as soon as you get there. Another way is to go back and pick up the fire ring from the cave next to Mythril Mine as soon as you get the buggy. You automatically take it back with you when being "stowaway" from Costa Del Sol. Yeah, Shinra isn't much for logistics and manifests....
2:54 - I always grind within Mithril Cave to learn Beta before reaching Juno. Stealing Ethers from those Dragon like creatures makes it really easy to reach necessary L3 Limit Breaks for Cloud (Meteorain) and Aeris (Planet Protector) It's a bit of a pain in the ass but it pays off, since you will only need to grind that much again within the final dungeon (in order to get the Master Materia set)
Just wanted to point out something. You don't actually need to be at a level divisible by four to learn L4 suicide. Found that out by accident when I was level 17. The attack doesn't have to hit you for you to learn it, which helps if you want to grind early on.
Regarding White Wind it can also be learnt from the Wind Wings at Whirlwind Maze. The caveat being that you have to cast Confuse on them as they cannot be manipulated. Naturally, even when the spell hits you are relying on luck because even if they do use the skill chances are it'll use it on itself (if it doesn't attack itself first) so you would have to repeat the process. Edit: You're correct in that the Jersey's will never use ??? after being attacked but that's because of a bug. They only use the ???? in their magic immune, default position of left arm lowered, right arm raised. Attacking them with magic in their physical immune, right arm lowered, left arm raised position was supposed to make them flip their arms again but due to a bug it doesn't work that way and they _NEVER_ use the skill when they are immune to physical attacks. That said Behemoths also use ???? but obviously you don't encounter them until Sector 8.
The enemies that appear with the Chocobo will tell you what the level is. I believe that it has to be two of the same enemies. Also, you can actually get Beta easily, but you need to have Elemental Materia from the Mayor of Midgar. Unfortunately, you have to guess his password correctly the first guess, or he won't actually give you the Elemental Materia. Also of note the Midgar Zolom will kick out the party member who has done the most damage to him at the point he ejects a party member. If you have the Elemental Materia, pairing it with Fire will halve, negate, or absorb Fire damage to the character. The easiest way I found is to use Aerith, put her in the back row and give her a Tranquilizer. It will make any physical damage negligible and will make Beta way less or a threat. Then, throwing Beta back will do more damage
If only Pandora's Box and Angel Whisper were available earlier, they'd be properly top tier. Angel Whisper in particular would be INSANELY useful if we didn't get it ten minutes before the end credits roll.
You can get magic hammer before yuffie side quest using green patch of land beside the shore area the tiny bronco Lands at, and harpy (aqualung) is still accessible after loosing the buggy by fighting one grouped with a chocobo at the tracks near gold saucer.
I remember long ago that I manipulated a Dragon Zombie once and could only do it once which was before it casted Pandora's Box. I was surprised at this because I learned it could also cast Shadow Flare at the time. Of course after I got it to cast both in the battle mentioned then killed it. No other DZs could be manipulated which I found strange. Might have something to do with the PB coding as well.
I love this channel. Please keep it up! This is also my favorite game of all time. I have an ff7 tattoo and so does my twin brother. Could you perhaps do an early game steal guide? Hardedge, Atomic scissors etc. Any ideas for changing up your play throughs? I love experiencing the game in a whole new way. Restricting materia choices, weapons, characters Or just any particular "builds" besides "becoming overpowered as quickly as possible" - as fun as that is I've done it so many times. Anyways I'll pretty much watch anything ff7 related so thanks for the content
In my complete weapon guide I show the weapons you can steal early in the game. I would suggest playing the PC version of the game with the new threat mod. I think you'd really like it.
Laneface oooo that is a good idea. I completely forgot about New Threat. I just got a new pc. My old one was absolute ass and would have probably had trouble running Doom let alone FF7. I just started Demons Souls and once I'm done Ima be all over that. Thank for the tip.
Actually, you might not need a character to have a level divisible by 4 to get the L4 Suicide ES, I just got it and I have Cloud equipped with the ES Materia, and he's Lvl 17.
Instead of fleeing 9,999 times with chocobuckle, flee 2,222 times. Then cast it on a character with 9,999 HP and now when they're fully healed and you cast chocobuckle on them to put them into the all lucky 7s status and deal almost half a million damage.
L4 suicide does not require a character at a divisible by 4 level to learn. You do NOT need to kill the midgarzolom to learn beta. If one party member had been kicked from the fight when your other party dies you get put back on the edge of the March with your one kicked out member alive and well, you also will have learned beta. Aqualung does not require manip but it can help speed up the process. Careful when getting desthforce, you can soft lock the game if you do a specific spell combination in the fight with the adamantoises When getting bad breath there is a hidden room with a ribbon in the climb up the mountain, equip it to your enemy skill character then have them cast white wind after. L5 death is the same as L4 suicide, the character does NOT need to be a lvl divisible by 5 Pandora’s box is not a coding error, it was intentional since it is such a powerful move.
I'll be honest - I've only gotten the full set once, for the Steam achievement for all mastered materia. Other than that, I don't really see the need for ALL of them, so I generally just get the ones I like and the ones that are easy to find - White Wind, Trine, Beta, Flamethrower, Aqualung, Shadow Flare, and so on.
Realistically, the only enemy that would equal the player’s level by the time they reach endgame is Emerald Weapon, and even then the damage would be just around 2000 range
i'd like a video on best bang for your buck enemy skills, stressing which ones are skipable and which are worth the effort but thats just me idk if its worth time making a video on. maybe even best bang for your buck missable items/ enemy skills
The last enemy skill is from an enemy pronounced poy-en-seta. It is a flower I believe. I think it is a spanish flower because the two ll's in the word are pronounced as a y like in spanish. The more you know!
You can get roulette very early in the game, in the area outside Corel, with those Jokers. They have the same appearance as death dealers but dark color
I really appreciate the video, and with that the choice of music, but personally I think the music should be just a tad quieter whenever you're not speaking.
FUN FACT: There is a good news and bad news when fighting Midgar Zolom after he casts Beta should you fail. The good news is that should the 2 party members die with an ejected party member, it does not result to a Game Over. Instead, you go back to the starting point. The bad news is of course you will not learn Beta after the battle.
No you can't that's not how the Enemy Skill materia works. You can learn the same skill on more than one ES materia so long as the skill in question isn't already on another and, unless _I'm_ remembering wrong, so long as they aren't on connected slots.
Matra Magic 0:54
L4 Suicide 1:18
Chocobuckle 1:48
Beta 2:54
Flame Thrower 4:00
Laser 4:25 12:12
Aqualung 4:59
Big Guard 5:35
White Wind 5:55
Frog Song 6:26
Death Sentence 6:51
???? 7:22
Trine 7:54
Death Force 8:22
Magic Hammer 8:46
Magic Breath 9:05
Bad Breath 9:37
Goblin Punch 10:03
Shadow Flare 10:25
Dragon Force 12:10
L5 Death 12:33
Pandora's Box 13:02
Roulette 14:55
Angel Whisper 15:20
U can still fight Harpys even WO the buggy as certain points along the edge of the desert have exposed desert away from the quicksand that still trigger desert mobs.
@@matthewobrien290 That worked, thanks :)
hey if you ever do the FF15 breakdown let me know - I can finish EVERYTHING (lvl 120,ALL hunts,sidequests, and royal arms) in 80 hrs
With magic breath the cave is a one stop trip if anyone wants to get magic breath go to the northern cave in the where abouts you can get Pandora's box and bad breath and manipulate the woman to use bad breath or was it the sting ray but either way it's definitely around those two
Yes Elixir on Zombie Dragon is 100% Pandora's Box.
I can confirm for anyone wondering that using an elixer on dragon zombie is a guaranteed way to get Pandora's box. He uses it as a final attack when he dies and since an elixer causes death towards, it triggers guaranteed.
Awesome Ty 👍
Makes sense and looks by design cause old trick using stuff like elixer or pehonix down on dead stuff lol
@@jakea3950 Elixirs guarantee Pandora's Box because they also max MP. Phoenix Downs , X-potions, and other curative items may not leave it with enough MP to cast.
Pandora's box is a final attack of the first zombie dragon you get to in the game, just like shadow flare for ultima weapon. So waiting around for it to use it is pointless, even counter productive if there's a chance it runs out of mp. Elixir kills it which is why it worked.
Is it AOE or do I put all enemy skills on one person and manipulate?
@@kaxeniakristelle7887 If I remember correctly it is an AOE so you should be able to put them all on one or put one on each of the active party members and it should work either way
2:54 if you have won the Shinra HQ mayor’s mini game by guessing the word on the first try you will be rewarded the elemental materia, equipping this with fire materia will nullify beta damage to the character you assigned it to. Helping you learn this enemy skill.
Additionally, put ur characters in the back row and use Tranquilizer's on them to give sadness. They'll take next to no damage. Poison the boss and ur good to g
Elemental only nullify elemental damage in level 2, in level 1 reduce the damage in 1/2
The Harpy from which you can learn Aqualung remains available after you lost your buggy, but with a twist.
You can still meet one in the surrounding area... with a Chocobo Lure.
That's right, one of the chocobo encounters around Gold Saucer has a Harpy in it.
Pro tip
Also you can get in the desert with a gold chocobo, but if you've got one of those then you've already had access to the other method the entire time :P
Even better: There's a tiny corner of the desert that's outside the quicksand, so you can get harpy fights whenever.
A few comments:
- Your character does not need to have a 4 multipier level to learn L4 Suicide (same goes for L5 Suicide).
- The chocobo that appears with two levikrons is always level 16.
- Zolom will only kick out characters that attack it, so have your learner solely on cure duty and they'll be fine.
Yeah none of my characters are Lvls dividable by 4. I still got it. The monsters only cast Lv4 Suicide when they are about to die. I got it right away.
Zolom kicks the bio caster I believe
You can even see it in the video, Tiffa was killed but Cloud still does his 'learned an enemy skill' spin.
Zolom will kick out he first character that attacks it after the zolom stands up, to be specific
@@callmeshaggy5166 can confirm
Enemy Skill, and Blue Mages in the series are my sentimental favorite. Something appealing about learning monster skills.
The Enemy Skill materia is the most underrated materia. Big Guard and White Wind are so freaking powerful. Big Guard casts wall+haste buy for a costly 35 MP. White Wind fills the parties HP to the casters current HP. So if your HP is 3645 of a total 8442 everyone will get 3645 as well cure any negative status effects. Great spell.
Idk about it being “underrated” definitely OP tho.
How's it underrated?
Literally everyone knows it's op. Lol
What do you mean underrated? Every1 knows it's the best Materia since 1997.
Enemy Skill literally paved the way for basically every Blue Mage skill in the future, it reshaped an entire class/job. I'd say its one of the most important materias in FF7.
Barrier and MBarrier are not great in 7 because of how the bar is set up. In the Remake, they're great.
If you keep releasing FFVII content, I’ll keep watching.
As someone playing FFVII again on Switch, this video is excellent
Awesome version on switch, maybe the best
@@mnsn_4nth lmaooo no.. switch version is the same as every other "remastered" version, the watered down puss easy mode... PS1 version Is superior In every way
@@NeoAmonSeraphimExcept you waste the best years of your life to watch some animations in the original. Also being harrassed by random encounters makes the game only minimally harder and is more annoying than anything else. The insta limit cheat is kinda cheap though, but you don't have to use it.
L4 Suicide and L5 Death do not have to "land" on a character whose level is a multiple of 4/5. I'm positive I've learned it before when the attack misses. All that has to happen is the attack being "thrown" at the character, like all of the other skills.
Enemy skill is THE BEST materia.... I'm obsessed with getting them all!
Bio is second favourite
The thing about Pandoras Box. It is true that you only get the one chance.
But the trick to make the Zombie Dragon use it is to kill it immediately as fast as you can.
Also, L4 Suicide can also be found in the area outside Bone Village.
Best way I found to get Chocobuckle is in the Mideel area. The Chocobos levels there are always a multiple of 4.
Best materia in the game imo. One slot, maximum versatility, and the skills you can get are usually way op for the level you get them.
Run away exactly 2222 times and NO MORE. Then when your party has maxed out HP later, you can cast chocobuckle on yourselves to INSTANTLY ENGAGE ALL LUCKY 7S MODE WHENEVER YOU WANT @_@
This sounds dope. One of my 100%FF7 files has a lv 99 cloud with 877mp so i can hp/mp switch materia, take it off, then use potions+high potions to start any battle with 7777s
or save yourself some grinding and run 1111 times and use it twice. but ultimately its a useless strat because you're reduced to 1 hp at the end of battle and this game is so easy there are way better strats that dont require hours of grinding
@@Boothenson better yet run 1 time and just use it on yourself 2222 times
@@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312 yes! Good strat
Or you could just get good!
Rather than looking endlessly with Sense for the right Chocobo.......The Chocobo that appears with 2 levrikons. This Chocobo is ALWAYS LEVEL 16
Razor Weeds can be encountered BEFORE the Yuffie sidequest.
Right by the beach is a grassy peninsula. They are located there.
@@bahamutskingdom Yup!
Pandora's Box on the Zombie Dragon is a death attack similar to that of Ultimate Weapon's shadow flare.
Great timing. I was just on FF7 lol. You and 4-8 Productions are my favorite FF7 channels! Looking forward to watching you make videos for the remake!
I'm very grateful to you for posting these videos. They're high quality FF7 videos that just straight up needed to be posted and you did it well!
Great video, but here are some corrections/tips:
1) If an enemy skill is used on you and it misses, you still learn it. Accordingly, there is no need to worry about what level your characters are at to learn L4 Suicide and L5 death. Your video implies that if you level your whole team to 99, then you made these skills unable to be acquired, but thankfully that’s not the case.
2) For Magic Hammer, you don’t need to complete the Wutai mission first. Simply stay in the green grass area immediately where the tiny bronco lands without going toward Wutai, and you’ll fight the razorweeds that have it.
3) Death force can be used on the crater enemy that casts roulette to ensure that he doesn’t accidentally kill himself before you learn the skill.
4) Pandora’s box is the final attack for the first dragon zombie you encounter. You will 100% have it cast on you if you use an elixir on him, so that technique is perfectly effective.
5) Though you correctly noted that Pandora’s box and Trine are the only truly missable skills to have on all 4 materia, you might mention that the Battle Arena at Gold Saucer has Stilva, which you can manipulate to cast trine on you. However, crucially, enemy skills CANNOT be learned in the battle arena. Items you get from morphing opponents count, but enemy skills for some reason are unable to be learned. Trine is indeed annoying to get on all 4 materia, as the only way to do this is to delay ascending the Pagoda in Wutai until you have all 4 materia, meaning purposefully waiting to get Yuffie’s 4th level limit break and Leviathan materia.
6) Chocobos around the chocobo farm that spawn with the configuration you showed always are at level 16.
The Trine on 4th materia thing was always annoying to me, so now I just use Black Chocobo to add it in when reaching that point (obviously playing the PC version). I much prefer doing Wutai right after Rocket Town on "Disc 1".
Actually feel good getting Pandora's Box back in the day when I first played this game. Only cast once per game is crazy!
Awesome video! No frills, no bullshit, straight to the point. Good job! 👍🏾
Chocobuckle used to be insanely OP in the Japanese original version. It was fights ran away from TIMES your level. The level multiplier was removed from all subsequent releases.
You think they would have just changed the multiplier to like 1/8-1/2 or something instead of removing it entirely...
you know so much about FF7, fair play my man, you are the don
Are you saying you're going to send him a blonde, cross dressing soldier?
I think dragon zombie does indeed only cast Pandora's Box as a final attack. But, you're right, once, per game, when you FIRST KILL one, it'll cast it. I'm fairly sure because I remember killing one of these only once in a run, all the way down to Jenova Synthesis, and it pretty much finished the fight with Pandora's Box too.
I remember driving myself insane trying to get this enemy skill. Cid had added effect-contain in his weapon (a massively underrated combo) and it always turned the dragon zombies to stone in 1 hit. They cant cast PB if you petrify them. Cannot believe I never thought to kill one by other means.
Big Guard and White Wind/Regen are pretty much all you need to make it through most fights.
Solid video. Thank you, Laneface
Use it against Emerald weapon and laugh at Aire Tam Storm.
White Wind always replaced Cure no matter how many playthroughs I do.
Easiest way to get Beta is to equip whoever has the enemy skill materia with a fire ring, Beta wont do any damage and you'll still learn the skill.
Oh yea thank u
You don't have a fire ring the first time you reach the midgar zolom. Just equip elemental+fire materia on your armor and that halves the fire damage. Equip Talisman for extra +10 spirit and use it all on Barrett. You're good to go.
@@Ressuu you don't have elemental materia either the first time you meet him 🤔
@@jakea3950 Yes, you do, there's one in the Shinra tower.
Elemental+fire materia on a piece of armor, inflict sadness, have the char with e skill to only use normal attacks/heals while others use bio and spells for more damage, zolom kicks out the player who's done the most damage. Which will generally be the bio caster and just keep pumping out spells then finish it off with a beta.
Do this and I guarentee you'll get beta everytime the first time.
Feeding the dragon zombie an elixir totally worked for me. He immediately cast Pandora’s box and I was able to learn it. Thanks for all your help!
Also of note, the only way to master all 4 enemy skill materias is to not do the Yuffie sidequests til after you get the Highwind. Godo is the only one left with Trine after you've gotten the first 3 pieces and most people do the Yuffie sidequest right away, preventing Trine from ever being learned on the 4th piece.
Purely for completion purposes as there is zero benefit to having more than 3 enemy skill materias.
You will still learn L4 Suicide even if player misses. There is a cue when the character learns it... He or she spins around instead of the usual reaction when got hit or missed.
@2:10 the level of the chocobo is tied to what enemies it appears with. So if you know that you don't need to use sense. Still this is awesome content, thank you.
Yup. I just wait until it shows up with the blue elephant things. Those are always LV 16.
@@kevinwozniak3308 The blue elephant things and the two ostrich looking enemies both work. If it's accompanied by the grass enemies, it won't work.
I remember first playing FF7 and getting Pandora’s Box down the path to Jenova and I didn’t know it was a one safe file thing
Choco buckle can be used to trigger 7777 easily, just escape 22, 122, 222, 322 etc times and use it on a character with 999hp using MP swap materia, then just use potion or hi potion and heal to 7777. Easiest set up in my opinion. Unless you are willing to run away 2222 times then you can use it directly on a 9999 hp character to trigger it immediately.
777 hp does not trigger lucky 7s
Haha wow didn't expect a reply from a 2 years old comment. You just swap your HP back to more than 8000 by removing the MP to HP materia (use HP to boost your hp if you don't have enough), so you will be left with 777 HP, use potion (100 HP per use so 70 of potion for 7000 + your 777) or HI potion (14 Hi Potion to 7000 HP) heal yourself to 7777
This was really great, I can remember going crazy trying to get all the enemy skills 🤔
You can get all the "kill" skills even if you're not the right lvl, like L4 suicide and L5 death. You don't need to be a lvl divisible by that lvl. You even showed that when you learned L5 death with cloud. He didn't die but still learned the skill. Also if you can't Death force on the unit with enemy skill you can learn death roulette with worrying about dying. It also works for the other 2 death skills.
Pandora’s Box is a final attack, so just kill the Dragon Zombie before he runs out of MP and he’ll always cast Pandora’s Box the first time you fight him. You have to have all four E. Skills equipped and none of them connected.
Not sure if this works on newer versions of the game but if you are hunting enemy skills exclusively putting all the materia that need to absorb that skill on the same character means they will all learn it, however if you equip a materia that already has it none will gain the skill.
Actually, L4 Suicide CAN be learned even though your level isn't divisible by 4 as it hits you but fails. I did and it worked.
Fun fact: You can, in fact, return to the Gaea Cliffs if you choose to snowboard, walk through the glacier and back up the cliffs. There is even a special bit of dialogue if you go to the very top and try to enter the crater while the barrier is active. You then run all the way back to the Glacier and can exit via that icy roller coaster room and walk back up to Icicle Inn.
I have only done this on disc 2, after getting the Highwind. I don't know if it can be done on disc 3.
Using the Elixir on the Dragon Zombie actually worked and I got the Pandora’s Box for all of my Enemy Skill Materia.
This video definitely deserves a subscription alone!
here's a trick I learned a while back:
with 9999 health, and the chocobuckle skill, run away exactly 2222 times, then attack the character with 9999 life with chocobuckle, giving them 7777 health, making every attack do 7777 damage to the enemy. very handy if you wanna kill some tough enemies, because remember, with 100 hits, that's 777700 damage, so if you have the lucky 7 and kotr combined with hp absorb (all of these maxed out btw), then have counter with mime, again, maxed out, you can use kotr on ruby weapon and go have some lunch, return and he is dead since he counters with utima and that will create a cycle where you attack, making ruby attack, making you attack, refilling your life, making ruby attack and so on.
You don't need to be a level divisible by 4 in order to get L4 Suicide. The attack will "miss", but you'll still learn it.
Also, fun fact: The Japanese version of Chocobuckle was FAR more useful. Basically the formula for determining damage was how many times you run away from battle times your current level.
Needless to say, it wouldn't take all that long to reach the max of 9999, which made it one of the best spells in the game. For whatever reason they nerfed the crap out of it for Western releases, and now it's essentially useless (unless you're completely insane and/or have way too much time on your hands).
You can easily manipulate Ark Dragon to learn Flamethrower in the Mythril Mines. It has a 3/4 chance to use Flame Thrower on any given turn, and if it does, it always targets the party member with the highest current HP. So make sure your Enemy Skill materia is on the person with the highest current HP, and you'll learn it 100% of the time.
Since Flamethrower does quite a lot of damage for this point in the game, you can also use this target-manipulation to train limit breaks for particular characters, too.
So I've been playing around with the dragon zombies apparently if you use white wind on them in does 9999 and the fight is over I did get Pandora's box on 3 enemy skill materia and I'm cool with that thanks a bunch for the upload helped a lot
12:25 interesting that Manipulate in this version (PS1?) didn’t have Magic Breath enemy skill available; in my iPhone version of FF7, the Dark Dragon has three skills available within one battle, and Magic Breath is the third. 👍🏻 great video!
1:37 that greenish-blue UI you have in many of your clips is so pretty. I wonder what the RGB values are, I'd love to use it.
Aqualung can be learned before the buggy. East of gold saucer is an area where you can find Harpys, on the meadow where the chcocobo tracks are 🤙
Crap, you kind of beat me to it lol. But yes this is true, you just need to have the Chocobo Lure and you'll find a Harpy with a Chocobo. This is also how you can learn Aqualung if you miss the other opportunities.
I read that apparently Pandora's Box is an attack the dragon zombie will use as its Final Attack, so by giving it an elixir you are basically ensuring they will have enough MP to cast it... it seems.
Not sure about that...I've never tried the Elixir method but since it apparently works I can only surmise that perhaps the damage done by the healing takes precedence over the potential loss in MP so it is able to immediately use PB(?). I say this because Elixirs also restore MP as well as HP but other forms of restoring MP, such as Ethers and Turbo Ethers actually drain the undead monster's MP. I'm just speculating because it is kind of bizarre that Elixirs wouldn't deprive the DZ of it's MP if Ethers can. 🤔🤔
You can use the Fire Ring to easily survive Beta.
Right, but in early game you dont hace a fire ring. I've been 10 hrs to get beta :')
@@reyrafa6636 just skip the first fight with the zolom, then come back after getting the buggy cause you'll want the mythril and bolt ring anyway
elemental-fire in armour, sadness, back row and help you survive also.
Also you can find a harpy if you equip a chocobo lure and walk around on the chocobo footprints by the gold saucer
Thanks! I forgot about this and those serpents are refusing to use aqualung on me.
Great guide man been following this for 5 years
Great vid! You can walk at the border of the corel desert before you get the buggy to get aqualung early or after the buggy disappears
From my experience of doing 2 runs and getting all e skills:
The only things I have to be worried about in terms of missables are to equip yuffie with the e skill materias that DON'T have trine before fighting godo, and to make sure all 4 materias are equipped on an alive party member when defeating a dragon zombie.
Roulette was legit annoying to get on my first run. It took so long because it's purely rng who it hits, but the second time around I got it quickly
Imo the e skills are extremely easy to get
All the completionists out there thank you sir
These videos are definitely very helpful for ff7 and there so good, next time I play ff7 I’m definitely gonna collect what I have missed out in my last play through. Also I like the music in the background of your videos they are very good music.
Chocobuckle does NOT require L4 suicide and a susceptible chocobo, but it does make it much easier. You just really have to feed it a mimett (or sylkis I believe) green, and get it to within 1/32 of its HP with a single attack, without killing it. I did it on a lvl 13 chocobo using ???? enemy skill and moving materia around/drinking potions to make my character have 129 points missing from full HP.
Also, Midgar Zolom can miss with Beta, and you'll still learn it. Might take some tries, but if you for some reason don't have fire+elemental on armor, it can be done as soon as you get there. Another way is to go back and pick up the fire ring from the cave next to Mythril Mine as soon as you get the buggy. You automatically take it back with you when being "stowaway" from Costa Del Sol. Yeah, Shinra isn't much for logistics and manifests....
2:54 - I always grind within Mithril Cave to learn Beta before reaching Juno. Stealing Ethers from those Dragon like creatures makes it really easy to reach necessary L3 Limit Breaks for Cloud (Meteorain) and Aeris (Planet Protector)
It's a bit of a pain in the ass but it pays off, since you will only need to grind that much again within the final dungeon (in order to get the Master Materia set)
Just wanted to point out something. You don't actually need to be at a level divisible by four to learn L4 suicide. Found that out by accident when I was level 17. The attack doesn't have to hit you for you to learn it, which helps if you want to grind early on.
So then, what are the requirements?
@@stripedrajang3571 just wait for them to use it. Whether it hits or not, you'll learn it.
I see.
Regarding White Wind it can also be learnt from the Wind Wings at Whirlwind Maze. The caveat being that you have to cast Confuse on them as they cannot be manipulated. Naturally, even when the spell hits you are relying on luck because even if they do use the skill chances are it'll use it on itself (if it doesn't attack itself first) so you would have to repeat the process.
Edit: You're correct in that the Jersey's will never use ??? after being attacked but that's because of a bug. They only use the ???? in their magic immune, default position of left arm lowered, right arm raised. Attacking them with magic in their physical immune, right arm lowered, left arm raised position was supposed to make them flip their arms again but due to a bug it doesn't work that way and they _NEVER_ use the skill when they are immune to physical attacks. That said Behemoths also use ???? but obviously you don't encounter them until Sector 8.
This game has been out for a Bazzillion years and I still learn stuff about it.
This is great! Playing ffvii for the second time currently so this will come in handy 😁
The enemies that appear with the Chocobo will tell you what the level is. I believe that it has to be two of the same enemies. Also, you can actually get Beta easily, but you need to have Elemental Materia from the Mayor of Midgar. Unfortunately, you have to guess his password correctly the first guess, or he won't actually give you the Elemental Materia. Also of note the Midgar Zolom will kick out the party member who has done the most damage to him at the point he ejects a party member. If you have the Elemental Materia, pairing it with Fire will halve, negate, or absorb Fire damage to the character. The easiest way I found is to use Aerith, put her in the back row and give her a Tranquilizer. It will make any physical damage negligible and will make Beta way less or a threat. Then, throwing Beta back will do more damage
zombie dragon always cast "Pandora's box" on death but if you exaust its mp he cant cast it. thats were the problem is,
If only Pandora's Box and Angel Whisper were available earlier, they'd be properly top tier. Angel Whisper in particular would be INSANELY useful if we didn't get it ten minutes before the end credits roll.
Even if the enemy misses attacking via E. Skill, it can still be learned. One sign is that the party member spins around.
Battle text will say "ENEMY SKILL .....X....... LEARNED"
You can get magic hammer before yuffie side quest using green patch of land beside the shore area the tiny bronco Lands at, and harpy (aqualung) is still accessible after loosing the buggy by fighting one grouped with a chocobo at the tracks near gold saucer.
whoa... i had no idea thats what manipulate did, i thought it just kept them from attacking you by facing the other way lol
Thank you for this video!I got all of the skills very easily!
15:16
Tifa: "Yay! I learned it!"
Also Tifa: >dies
its 100x funnier that she just flopped dead with no animation
Tried to use an elixir on dragon zombie and boom pandora's box, thanks so much!!!
I remember long ago that I manipulated a Dragon Zombie once and could only do it once which was before it casted Pandora's Box. I was surprised at this because I learned it could also cast Shadow Flare at the time. Of course after I got it to cast both in the battle mentioned then killed it. No other DZs could be manipulated which I found strange. Might have something to do with the PB coding as well.
You sure you're not misremembering? Because Dragon Zombies are immune to being manipulated unless it was bugged out, maybe?
I love this channel. Please keep it up! This is also my favorite game of all time. I have an ff7 tattoo and so does my twin brother. Could you perhaps do an early game steal guide? Hardedge, Atomic scissors etc. Any ideas for changing up your play throughs? I love experiencing the game in a whole new way. Restricting materia choices, weapons, characters Or just any particular "builds" besides "becoming overpowered as quickly as possible"
- as fun as that is I've done it so many times. Anyways I'll pretty much watch anything ff7 related so thanks for the content
In my complete weapon guide I show the weapons you can steal early in the game. I would suggest playing the PC version of the game with the new threat mod. I think you'd really like it.
Laneface oooo that is a good idea. I completely forgot about New Threat. I just got a new pc. My old one was absolute ass and would have probably had trouble running Doom let alone FF7. I just started Demons Souls and once I'm done Ima be all over that. Thank for the tip.
Actually, you might not need a character to have a level divisible by 4 to get the L4 Suicide ES, I just got it and I have Cloud equipped with the ES Materia, and he's Lvl 17.
Learning all this for the remake!
You can actually get Magic Hammer right after you get Death Force on that same Wutai area at the green area, rather than waiting after Yufie's quest.
Was about to say this. Yeah you can learn it at the most southern grassy tip on the wutai continent
Instead of fleeing 9,999 times with chocobuckle, flee 2,222 times. Then cast it on a character with 9,999 HP and now when they're fully healed and you cast chocobuckle on them to put them into the all lucky 7s status and deal almost half a million damage.
This channel is so dope
Thank you for not having an annoying voice.
Lol
This video filled me with nostalgia 😊
2:38 Sir, you underestimate the mundane stuff I do with my free time. I will one day make Chocobuckle an absolute world-ender!
😂
L4 suicide does not require a character at a divisible by 4 level to learn.
You do NOT need to kill the midgarzolom to learn beta. If one party member had been kicked from the fight when your other party dies you get put back on the edge of the March with your one kicked out member alive and well, you also will have learned beta.
Aqualung does not require manip but it can help speed up the process.
Careful when getting desthforce, you can soft lock the game if you do a specific spell combination in the fight with the adamantoises
When getting bad breath there is a hidden room with a ribbon in the climb up the mountain, equip it to your enemy skill character then have them cast white wind after.
L5 death is the same as L4 suicide, the character does NOT need to be a lvl divisible by 5
Pandora’s box is not a coding error, it was intentional since it is such a powerful move.
These are so relaxing.
I'll be honest - I've only gotten the full set once, for the Steam achievement for all mastered materia. Other than that, I don't really see the need for ALL of them, so I generally just get the ones I like and the ones that are easy to find - White Wind, Trine, Beta, Flamethrower, Aqualung, Shadow Flare, and so on.
Goblin Punch actually 8x damage if the user's level = the target's level and it costs 0 mp. But... that takes it from 100% to about 95% useless, so...
Realistically, the only enemy that would equal the player’s level by the time they reach endgame is Emerald Weapon, and even then the damage would be just around 2000 range
i'd like a video on best bang for your buck enemy skills, stressing which ones are skipable and which are worth the effort but thats just me idk if its worth time making a video on. maybe even best bang for your buck missable items/ enemy skills
The dragon zombie will cast Pandora's Box once you kill it, but only once per save file, just as you said
I know everything there is to know about the OG FF7, but i find myself watching videos like this because i want to relive it somehow.
Buy the Playstation Classic Mini. It comes with FF7 on it. I was wanting to play ff7 again forever and I found the mini. It is great
Old times are the best times Bruvs.
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out of these, the most useful I've found so far is Beta and Big Guard
Nah magic hammer! It steals 100mp from the enemy and gives it back to the caster
The last enemy skill is from an enemy pronounced poy-en-seta. It is a flower I believe. I think it is a spanish flower because the two ll's in the word are pronounced as a y like in spanish. The more you know!
You can get roulette very early in the game, in the area outside Corel, with those Jokers. They have the same appearance as death dealers but dark color
Those do not do roulette
finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Joker_(Final_Fantasy_VII)
Such a great video. It was very helpful. Thanks
Chocobuckle took so long. It'd always run right before I threw the greens so I ended up wasting them lol.
I really appreciate the video, and with that the choice of music, but personally I think the music should be just a tad quieter whenever you're not speaking.
FUN FACT: There is a good news and bad news when fighting Midgar Zolom after he casts Beta should you fail.
The good news is that should the 2 party members die with an ejected party member, it does not result to a Game Over. Instead, you go back to the starting point.
The bad news is of course you will not learn Beta after the battle.
From what I remember, you can cast enemy skills on your self to learn them on the other enemy skill materias. Might be remembering wrong tho.
No you can't that's not how the Enemy Skill materia works. You can learn the same skill on more than one ES materia so long as the skill in question isn't already on another and, unless _I'm_ remembering wrong, so long as they aren't on connected slots.
I played so many times this game and never full one of this materia but ill gonna fix it thx
I always get Beta as soon as it's available. It kills anything for a long time and is great for grinding limit breaks early on
I dont remember is dragon zombie casts pandora box before dying, but if you use flash instakill you can recover all hp and mp to undeads enemies
I don't think that the buggy disappears, neither does the tiny bronco, if I'm not mistaken, they stay where you last left them