I personally think you should incorporate short/full hop needles into your edge guarding toolkit for spacies. I helps cover those pesky side b recoveries and helps cover low up Bs when you are out spaced and are running from the other side of the stage. Takes practice to dodge the platforms and not lose your needles to nothing. Also I would say 80% of the cast can be chain grabbed by sheik at various percents, so you could be taking more percent in your down throw strings. Going hand in hand with the chain grabs would be learning your tech chase followups. Otherwise just have fun with the learning process, she is not as braindead as people want you to think.
People call her braindead because you can place gold with 0 competitive smash knowledge by just sprinting at people and pressing A. Easy to do well, par to master.
@@EmissaryOfSmeagolas a puff newbie she dies really quickly and im not good a hitting rest combos i think here technical level isnt nearly as high as fox just all the basics short hop etc. but its more outsmarting your oponent. At top level its gonna be hard atleast against fox and marth
Love these types of videos! I’m curious as to how much you analyzed other Sheik players’ sets during this, if any. I know you mentioned how you did research for certain matchups, and I wonder if watching what other players did was part of that.
pretty often people's least favorite stage is their best win rate in Bo3 since it'll mostly come up as an opponent counterpick--basically only against subset of opponents you already beat
As a dual spacie main that plays sheik for fun (crazy I know), two of the biggest things I learned was that holding down and just being good at tech chasing is broken. Additionally, I think the best way to improve punish on species is to recognize when a tech chase situation is possible and capitalizing on that (i.e will my f-tilt confirm into another f-tilt or are they really close to the ground). Obviously I can just say "get good" at tech chasing, but that's just some homework a person has to figure out. In terms of tech chasing from my perspective, I always like to wavedash forward after down throw if they move forward or wavedash back/in-place if they move behind. I hope all these tips help!
29:30 - don't beat yourself up over losing "unlosable" matchups or 80/20s. Those assume that you know the matchup and what to exploit. First time ever playing bowser with shiek, and that bowser has probably played that matchup 100s of times. Not crazy to lose.
I've been playing unranked for about a year and I still don't know how to play against Capt. Falcon. But this video makes me want to try ranked finally. I play Sheik as well.
Would love to see you try this with Peach, been tryna learn her myself but she's so much different than any other character I've played prior, with her float tech and such
Your best winrate stage is FoD because you never choose it. So games against wayyy better opponents go to your fav counter-picks (aka not FoD) and your games that you were gonna win anyways have the enemy counterpick to FoD. Basically, it’s a statistics and selection bias example, and it’s kinda proof that stage pick matters much less outside of the top level
but why would they choose fod if its not their strongest pick? and if i truly was bad at fod wouldnt fod be a lower winrate? genuine question. or is sheik just good on paper playing fountain of dreams?
It may be their strongest counterpick but if they already lost game 1 to you they'll likely lose game 2 aswell no matter the stage, so if you never pick FoD then you're only playing on it generally when you're playing against someone worse than you or at least worse at that given matchup. Its pretty rare to run into someone you go even with on Slippi most times its either you beating them over and over or them beating you over and over.
I like these videos alot, even if I don't care about the game (starcraft). It's just a shame you don't get any traffic going anymore. I get that everybody wants the "old" kind of videos back. We all miss lud and papa's mid level melee banter. But you can only do so many of those. I don't think just uploading gameplay is gonna do much in the long run, if there's no gimmick/mod. Good on ya ludvix, wish ya the best.
appreciate the feedback! and its nice that u get my sentiments, those type of videos (the banter) prob will come back once in awhile in the future, right now i really enjoy improving/story telling styles more nowadays, and im trying to improve the videos itself as much as i continue uploading, i appreciate the comment :)
@@Ludvix I'm glad to hear you're still having some fun making and experimenting with videos on here. YT really is a tough game, not even talking money or algorithm. Keep it up bud. Just don't force yourself.
I just smoked the entire video. It was very entertaining to see the grinding, especially if it is a character that you are not normally used to play. It helps you a lot with the neutral game and some of that is transferred to your main. And as always, good video Lud =D
Ive found Fox to definitely the hardest character to figure out how to beat as Sheik as well, feels like you have be on the defense but if they’re super fast you can’t even do that On the flip side Jigglypuff is the easiest matchup for me even though Sheik loses to her too. You just have to outplay the Jigglypuff at their own game carefully spacing out back-airs and mixing in your other tools like needles
I really like these videos where you pick up some random thing and try to become good with it. Super inspiring and good at showing how the best way to reach the top quick is to start.
As an on again off again shiek player, try wavedashing forward/back and ftilting against falcon. Youll catch alot of nairs and approaches, and you can dashback if you whiff! Also, ita really easy to get powershields against falco. Duck under, and then shield as the lazer goes over. Youll power shield for free and can convert it into a grab.
34:03 As a Luigi player, using needles as Sheik can be really oppressive and hard to deal with because he relies so heavily on ground game. So if I had an idea for an easy fix, get better at using needles against Luigi and you will do much better in the future. Also, you were on FD but if you can find a way to camp platforms against Luigi by light-shielding you basically just win against Luigi because he has no counter-play in the air. Other than that, you just have to play a really good neutral and generally just try to not engage Luigi, don't disrespect him but you just want to play really defensively and he will never get in.
as a marth main I'd want to take shiek to yoshi's potentially if stadium or fd are off. to get into marth you have do a lot of platform movement with jumping needles. jumping needles on the ground work until they don't to get grabs. also boost grab would beat dashdance if you want to approach. but cc marth's aerials and dtilt into grab is great because it limits marth to just position wins or grabs.
As a Marth main, it is REALLY refreshing to see somebody outside of the Marth/Sheik sphere point out how EASY it is for Sheik to beat Marth. That matchup is BROKEN. The fact that a new Sheik doesn’t even struggle with Marth until Gold rank shows just how simple it is for Sheik to beat Marth. That matchup is either 55/45 or 60/40 at top level, but at the intermediate, I would even go as far as to say that it is 70/30. Absolutely a braindead matchup. I’ll play people who boot up Unranked as Sheik, but if I beat somebody and then they switch to Sheik because they want a braindead win and an undeserved taunt, I just taunt and disconnect.
Same I struggle against Sheik at mid-level and can put up a better fight with my way-less experienced falco. Kinda makes sense from this vid, as it seems Sheik has a harder time dealing with lasers / punishing falco than I thought
Yeah I’m pretty bad and play 10x more marth than Sheik but I just go sheik vs marth and do better than I would do in the ditto. I think it really is just because killing marth as sheik is a lot easier than vice versa especially at a low level where marth kill setups are less common.
15:32 Can't speak for anyone in Melee, but from playing a lot of Smash 4 and Smash Ultimate online (in the for glory modes), I'll tend to be playing with a character that I have fun with and am fairly competent with, but isn't my main, and if I play against someone who is actually good and either beats, or nearly beats me, I'll switch over to my main for a "real challenge", since I would have been holding back using a non-main character. Like, "now I'll show you my real power", or something like that lol
Sheik is commonly described as having a "bad" recovery, but from my perspective after playing the character for years I don't quite quite agree with the objective description of bad. Sheiks recovery is unique in the sense that it has polarizing strengths and weaknesses. Her ability to control and snap to the ledge is second to only spacies with shine turnaround, and the sami stall (I think that's what it's called, which is the same technique as shino stalling but instead of poofing above the ledge with hitbox you simply drop ledge a bit lower and regrab with the upwards part of up b) can be done in a way that gives her full intangibility, as well as resetting her ECB to give you a more consistent perfect ledgedash. Its great for stalling, very hard to contest unless done with a perfect callout, and can be mixed up very well to create a tight execution test for an edgeguarding opponent. The biggest downsides to the recovery are how it loses to rinse and repeat edgeguards, a la fox bair off ledge, but this is where the new school of Sheiks like jmook and krudo have shown innovations. Sheiks recovery is only bad when it is used on it's own, but many of it's issues can be mitigated with amsah teching and slideoff DI's, not to mention the ever elusive edge cancel poof and various angles and shortens that box players have started to cook with. She's similar to falcon in the sense that the flaws and limitations in their recoveries often drive their players to higher levels of technical skill and creativity in spite of it.
I think it's mainly that Sheik's recovery is one of the only exploitable parts of her kit is why it gets mentioned so much, but it's definitely not worse than Falcon.
@@WhoPlaysMc Oh yeah she definitely has a much better time than Falcon. Just using the comparison as an example of aspects of the character that are gradually getting pushed farther and farther in terms of how top players are learning to patch up the inherent weaknesses with godlike tech skill
its not a win button but its not hard to understand sheik and how to play her if you just understand melee. or tech chase regrabs which is not hard to do at all and was largely absent in the video. sheik is really hard to deal with as spacies unless you know how to actually play and dont just spam muscle memory. very hard to actually be good with sheik against good spacies
lmao I love the first Falco game. "How do people play this matchup? I literally cannot do anything." As somebody who just kinda plays Melee every once in a while for a little fun on Slippi, and a Sheik player, this was very nice to hear. Glad it's not just me.
The matchup can be really annoying. But platforms are sheik’s best friend when it comes to finding openings and avoiding laser. Fox is definitely a harder matchup for sheik, but I find Falco so much more annoying.
Good video, but might be worth adding some stuff like music or maybe jazz it up a little with a story, because I feel like the narration is currently a little dry. A narrative of how you got better with the character might be good, or something. Still good video though 👍
Bro don't even feel bad about losing to that Bowser. I've played against Osufan multiple times and that guy is a low rank DEMON. I don't think I've won against him at all yet he's a hard knowledge check for sure
I feel like it's common practice in fighting games to look at other players' matches of your character, especially when you know what areas and matchups you're struggling with. Is "I'll just grind it out" a more common sentiment for smash players?
I have never played slippi ranked so im not sure how stage bans work on there, but you lost game 1 in your first match and then counterpicked fox to pokemon stadium. that is never a good idea. Dreamland, battlefield, or fountain would all be better
@@Ludvix low ceiling means fox up air and upsmash kills hella early as well as yoshis and FD+FD also has no platforms to land on while recovering meaning you get killed off recovery more frequently, I talked about this in my comment too :3
@@Ludvix also adding on to this, ps has much further away side blast zones than bf does, so fair's kill power is nerfed. sheik loves to kill horizontally whereas fox loves to kill vertically, ps does a lot for fox and not much for you
"Why do people do this" in regards to switching characters, it's for the same reason you talked about how difficult it is for you to fight Falco as Sheik. I main both Sheik and Marth, and in general I just think it's "easier" to deal with the Spacies as Marth, but it's way easier for me to deal with another Sheik with Sheik as it is with Marth.
I think you need to go into uncle punch and practice your reaction tech chasing in combo mode I like reaction tech chasing spacies using F and D tilt once they are at knock down percent for the move Tech chasing is such a huge part of Sheik's game, and I just didn't see much tech chasing from you even though you were doing a lot of other great stuff :)
Ya know, it always surprises me when i see a Fox like the one at the start make silly mistakes that should be a death sentence even for mid-level play, and then for some reason they can do things like ledge dashing Like, i regularly see players on unranked who can shield drop and ledge dash (admittedly basic tech at this point) and then i still beat them (when i cant do either tech). I'm not saying you shouldn't learn all the tools available, but its emblematic of an issue of prioritization that i guess has existed since the dawn of fighting games. Heck, someone like Borp should put all that to rest: game sense is how you win, not by out-muscling your opponent
sheik is pretty simple tbh just hit ur tilt combos and chaingrabs and implement spacing, but also be ready to scrap and tech chase as well. Edgeguards include the use of needles, run off fairs, back air from ledge, even nair. She can get pretty technical, so she definitely gets hard to actually MASTER what with her abysmal recovery as well as advanced techniques such as her poof tactics and turnaround needles, but its hard for me to imagine Sheik being difficult at low level. You're messing up pretty big on some of the basic concepts.
Nope, but there is many guides out there for that. I would look into softmodding a wii since that’s super easy and fast and also check FBM for a CRT tv near u some people give them away or check ur local melee discords, they can help u out and they might live super close to u too
I guess that against bowser you just chaingrab him untill 90% and then go for the stock, cz sheik has a free chaingrab in most of the low tiers Edit: Ices are really hard, iirc, Chudat have never been defeated by a Sheik
what game should i do next? (it has to have some form of a ranked mode / or a certain character)
Does Rivals of Aether have a ranked? Idk
Bugsnax
im not going to say that you should play Quake
but Quake is a video game
and Quake Champions is free
and bhopping and circle jumping is cool
How about Rocket League?
@@honk1419 Let's Revive Quake Champions, as a _meme_
If you want to keep practicing Sheik at all feel free to hit me up with questions! I'd be down to offer some insight on the character
I personally think you should incorporate short/full hop needles into your edge guarding toolkit for spacies. I helps cover those pesky side b recoveries and helps cover low up Bs when you are out spaced and are running from the other side of the stage. Takes practice to dodge the platforms and not lose your needles to nothing. Also I would say 80% of the cast can be chain grabbed by sheik at various percents, so you could be taking more percent in your down throw strings. Going hand in hand with the chain grabs would be learning your tech chase followups. Otherwise just have fun with the learning process, she is not as braindead as people want you to think.
People call her braindead because you can place gold with 0 competitive smash knowledge by just sprinting at people and pressing A. Easy to do well, par to master.
Not even a single Puff in 200 games, wow.
I’m blessed
I think this might be a statement about both how unpopular Jigglypuff is and how hard she is at mid level (not a jiggs player btw)
@@simanolastname2399 a lot of Puff haters say she's easy, but I wouldn't really know about how things change from low skill to mid level.
@@EmissaryOfSmeagolas a puff newbie she dies really quickly and im not good a hitting rest combos i think here technical level isnt nearly as high as fox just all the basics short hop etc. but its more outsmarting your oponent. At top level its gonna be hard atleast against fox and marth
A whole Sheik video without a single mention of "chaingrab" or "tech chase"
I read Sheik as Shrek and thought we were gonna get a fusion with Super Slam
Lmao same
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Love these types of videos! I’m curious as to how much you analyzed other Sheik players’ sets during this, if any. I know you mentioned how you did research for certain matchups, and I wonder if watching what other players did was part of that.
it twas
pretty often people's least favorite stage is their best win rate in Bo3 since it'll mostly come up as an opponent counterpick--basically only against subset of opponents you already beat
hold up, "my WIFE called me". That's crazy if it's that true
As a dual spacie main that plays sheik for fun (crazy I know), two of the biggest things I learned was that holding down and just being good at tech chasing is broken. Additionally, I think the best way to improve punish on species is to recognize when a tech chase situation is possible and capitalizing on that (i.e will my f-tilt confirm into another f-tilt or are they really close to the ground). Obviously I can just say "get good" at tech chasing, but that's just some homework a person has to figure out. In terms of tech chasing from my perspective, I always like to wavedash forward after down throw if they move forward or wavedash back/in-place if they move behind. I hope all these tips help!
21:00 shoutout to scarlott for waiting ❤😊
29:30 - don't beat yourself up over losing "unlosable" matchups or 80/20s. Those assume that you know the matchup and what to exploit. First time ever playing bowser with shiek, and that bowser has probably played that matchup 100s of times. Not crazy to lose.
Love this type of video. Very entertaining and meditative to watch you figure this out
I've been playing unranked for about a year and I still don't know how to play against Capt. Falcon. But this video makes me want to try ranked finally. I play Sheik as well.
Would love to see you try this with Peach, been tryna learn her myself but she's so much different than any other character I've played prior, with her float tech and such
Yep, Peach is underrated as hell. You can feel people slowly losing braincells throughout the match the more you down smash lol.
@@ThePsymonator yeah bro check out my 40% peach combo * down smashes one time *
I REALLY like this video format, it's like a sped up version of the journey i have before me. Would love to see it with more chars. (Marth)
16:55 That was Bab Activated lol you had no chance. Check out his combo videos!
23:53 same as the first gannon you fought at the beginning of the video, 70 or so matches later
of course the first captain falcon you fight is bab
Was that really Bab? Bab is ranked grandmaster, what would he be doing fighting a Gold player
dope concept homie! sick you played a character you weren't super comfortable with at first
Your best winrate stage is FoD because you never choose it. So games against wayyy better opponents go to your fav counter-picks (aka not FoD) and your games that you were gonna win anyways have the enemy counterpick to FoD. Basically, it’s a statistics and selection bias example, and it’s kinda proof that stage pick matters much less outside of the top level
but why would they choose fod if its not their strongest pick? and if i truly was bad at fod wouldnt fod be a lower winrate? genuine question. or is sheik just good on paper playing fountain of dreams?
It may be their strongest counterpick but if they already lost game 1 to you they'll likely lose game 2 aswell no matter the stage, so if you never pick FoD then you're only playing on it generally when you're playing against someone worse than you or at least worse at that given matchup.
Its pretty rare to run into someone you go even with on Slippi most times its either you beating them over and over or them beating you over and over.
I like these videos alot, even if I don't care about the game (starcraft). It's just a shame you don't get any traffic going anymore.
I get that everybody wants the "old" kind of videos back. We all miss lud and papa's mid level melee banter.
But you can only do so many of those. I don't think just uploading gameplay is gonna do much in the long run, if there's no gimmick/mod.
Good on ya ludvix, wish ya the best.
appreciate the feedback! and its nice that u get my sentiments, those type of videos (the banter) prob will come back once in awhile in the future, right now i really enjoy improving/story telling styles more nowadays, and im trying to improve the videos itself as much as i continue uploading, i appreciate the comment :)
@@Ludvix I'm glad to hear you're still having some fun making and experimenting with videos on here. YT really is a tough game, not even talking money or algorithm.
Keep it up bud. Just don't force yourself.
I just smoked the entire video. It was very entertaining to see the grinding, especially if it is a character that you are not normally used to play. It helps you a lot with the neutral game and some of that is transferred to your main. And as always, good video Lud =D
Ive found Fox to definitely the hardest character to figure out how to beat as Sheik as well, feels like you have be on the defense but if they’re super fast you can’t even do that
On the flip side Jigglypuff is the easiest matchup for me even though Sheik loses to her too. You just have to outplay the Jigglypuff at their own game carefully spacing out back-airs and mixing in your other tools like needles
I really like these videos where you pick up some random thing and try to become good with it. Super inspiring and good at showing how the best way to reach the top quick is to start.
As an on again off again shiek player, try wavedashing forward/back and ftilting against falcon. Youll catch alot of nairs and approaches, and you can dashback if you whiff! Also, ita really easy to get powershields against falco. Duck under, and then shield as the lazer goes over. Youll power shield for free and can convert it into a grab.
34:03 As a Luigi player, using needles as Sheik can be really oppressive and hard to deal with because he relies so heavily on ground game. So if I had an idea for an easy fix, get better at using needles against Luigi and you will do much better in the future. Also, you were on FD but if you can find a way to camp platforms against Luigi by light-shielding you basically just win against Luigi because he has no counter-play in the air. Other than that, you just have to play a really good neutral and generally just try to not engage Luigi, don't disrespect him but you just want to play really defensively and he will never get in.
as a marth main I'd want to take shiek to yoshi's potentially if stadium or fd are off. to get into marth you have do a lot of platform movement with jumping needles. jumping needles on the ground work until they don't to get grabs. also boost grab would beat dashdance if you want to approach. but cc marth's aerials and dtilt into grab is great because it limits marth to just position wins or grabs.
Would love to see this with different characters or even different games. rlly good video format.
As a Marth main, it is REALLY refreshing to see somebody outside of the Marth/Sheik sphere point out how EASY it is for Sheik to beat Marth. That matchup is BROKEN. The fact that a new Sheik doesn’t even struggle with Marth until Gold rank shows just how simple it is for Sheik to beat Marth.
That matchup is either 55/45 or 60/40 at top level, but at the intermediate, I would even go as far as to say that it is 70/30. Absolutely a braindead matchup. I’ll play people who boot up Unranked as Sheik, but if I beat somebody and then they switch to Sheik because they want a braindead win and an undeserved taunt, I just taunt and disconnect.
Same I struggle against Sheik at mid-level and can put up a better fight with my way-less experienced falco. Kinda makes sense from this vid, as it seems Sheik has a harder time dealing with lasers / punishing falco than I thought
Yeah I’m pretty bad and play 10x more marth than Sheik but I just go sheik vs marth and do better than I would do in the ditto. I think it really is just because killing marth as sheik is a lot easier than vice versa especially at a low level where marth kill setups are less common.
15:32 Can't speak for anyone in Melee, but from playing a lot of Smash 4 and Smash Ultimate online (in the for glory modes), I'll tend to be playing with a character that I have fun with and am fairly competent with, but isn't my main, and if I play against someone who is actually good and either beats, or nearly beats me, I'll switch over to my main for a "real challenge", since I would have been holding back using a non-main character. Like, "now I'll show you my real power", or something like that lol
7:43 his internet mightve just cut out
When fox is recovering just throw lots of needles to interrupt his starting animation on his recovery
Sheik is commonly described as having a "bad" recovery, but from my perspective after playing the character for years I don't quite quite agree with the objective description of bad. Sheiks recovery is unique in the sense that it has polarizing strengths and weaknesses. Her ability to control and snap to the ledge is second to only spacies with shine turnaround, and the sami stall (I think that's what it's called, which is the same technique as shino stalling but instead of poofing above the ledge with hitbox you simply drop ledge a bit lower and regrab with the upwards part of up b) can be done in a way that gives her full intangibility, as well as resetting her ECB to give you a more consistent perfect ledgedash. Its great for stalling, very hard to contest unless done with a perfect callout, and can be mixed up very well to create a tight execution test for an edgeguarding opponent. The biggest downsides to the recovery are how it loses to rinse and repeat edgeguards, a la fox bair off ledge, but this is where the new school of Sheiks like jmook and krudo have shown innovations. Sheiks recovery is only bad when it is used on it's own, but many of it's issues can be mitigated with amsah teching and slideoff DI's, not to mention the ever elusive edge cancel poof and various angles and shortens that box players have started to cook with. She's similar to falcon in the sense that the flaws and limitations in their recoveries often drive their players to higher levels of technical skill and creativity in spite of it.
I think it's mainly that Sheik's recovery is one of the only exploitable parts of her kit is why it gets mentioned so much, but it's definitely not worse than Falcon.
@@WhoPlaysMc Oh yeah she definitely has a much better time than Falcon. Just using the comparison as an example of aspects of the character that are gradually getting pushed farther and farther in terms of how top players are learning to patch up the inherent weaknesses with godlike tech skill
Finally someone showing that this character is not a Win Button and you need to know what are you doing to be good with he (or she)
its not a win button but its not hard to understand sheik and how to play her if you just understand melee. or tech chase regrabs which is not hard to do at all and was largely absent in the video. sheik is really hard to deal with as spacies unless you know how to actually play and dont just spam muscle memory. very hard to actually be good with sheik against good spacies
ggs man i was the bowser
the first one 💀
U a legend
lmao I love the first Falco game. "How do people play this matchup? I literally cannot do anything." As somebody who just kinda plays Melee every once in a while for a little fun on Slippi, and a Sheik player, this was very nice to hear. Glad it's not just me.
The matchup can be really annoying. But platforms are sheik’s best friend when it comes to finding openings and avoiding laser.
Fox is definitely a harder matchup for sheik, but I find Falco so much more annoying.
It's no wonder you lost to that first Falcon. It was frigging bab
Don't worry that Bowser was just a genius
My favorite part was when he said “it’s sheik’n time” and sheiked all over them. Truly another classic Ludvix moment
Do you guys like seriously find this funny ?
Why is this still a thing
@@fayssega yes, no need to break the ambiance
I always see comments like this and somehow it hasn’t got old yet
Npc ass comment
If you’re far from the ledge then a down tilt or a no fast fall nair ledge cancel might cover it.
Good video, but might be worth adding some stuff like music or maybe jazz it up a little with a story, because I feel like the narration is currently a little dry. A narrative of how you got better with the character might be good, or something. Still good video though 👍
This series of videos is alot of fun to watch (except when he played lily. Watching bad versions of your main is always hard)
needles are gg
chain is a good troll tool
Bro don't even feel bad about losing to that Bowser. I've played against Osufan multiple times and that guy is a low rank DEMON. I don't think I've won against him at all yet he's a hard knowledge check for sure
I feel like it's common practice in fighting games to look at other players' matches of your character, especially when you know what areas and matchups you're struggling with. Is "I'll just grind it out" a more common sentiment for smash players?
I have never played slippi ranked so im not sure how stage bans work on there, but you lost game 1 in your first match and then counterpicked fox to pokemon stadium. that is never a good idea. Dreamland, battlefield, or fountain would all be better
What’s wrong with PS compared to bf?
@@Ludvix low ceiling means fox up air and upsmash kills hella early as well as yoshis and FD+FD also has no platforms to land on while recovering meaning you get killed off recovery more frequently, I talked about this in my comment too :3
@@Ludvix also adding on to this, ps has much further away side blast zones than bf does, so fair's kill power is nerfed. sheik loves to kill horizontally whereas fox loves to kill vertically, ps does a lot for fox and not much for you
Not a bad overall ranking for just 200 ? Pretty damn good
That bowser is from my region. Playing him weekly is so rough LOL
8:00 bro, I am a complete beginner, but glad to see spacies fk up everyone. They are the only unfun matchup to play against for me.
"Why do people do this" in regards to switching characters, it's for the same reason you talked about how difficult it is for you to fight Falco as Sheik. I main both Sheik and Marth, and in general I just think it's "easier" to deal with the Spacies as Marth, but it's way easier for me to deal with another Sheik with Sheik as it is with Marth.
until they counter pick u back
definitely look at the ninja a complete sheik guide and practice getting your bairs to land with the hitbox you actually want
(Any tilt) into (any ariel) is such a hard conversion….
Please do another one of these as another character you haven't played yet. Maybe falcon would be sick?
I loved the video! I'm a newb and a sheik main. How do you find win rate match ups and win rate on maps information?
its called slippipedia, its a great app
@@Ludvix thanks!
Sheik: easy my dude,super easy
how to edgegaurd as shiek: needle
1. Uncle Punch
2. Armada shine training
3. Pick Shiek
Mindless flowchart edgeguard, perfect for handwarming too
Oh that’s a great idea!
I think you need to go into uncle punch and practice your reaction tech chasing in combo mode
I like reaction tech chasing spacies using F and D tilt once they are at knock down percent for the move
Tech chasing is such a huge part of Sheik's game, and I just didn't see much tech chasing from you
even though you were doing a lot of other great stuff :)
I like how sheiks walk is faster than Zelda’s run
This would be me, but for luigi or the other low tiers
Ya know, it always surprises me when i see a Fox like the one at the start make silly mistakes that should be a death sentence even for mid-level play, and then for some reason they can do things like ledge dashing
Like, i regularly see players on unranked who can shield drop and ledge dash (admittedly basic tech at this point) and then i still beat them (when i cant do either tech). I'm not saying you shouldn't learn all the tools available, but its emblematic of an issue of prioritization that i guess has existed since the dawn of fighting games. Heck, someone like Borp should put all that to rest: game sense is how you win, not by out-muscling your opponent
@17:33 casually playing against bab in gold 1
sheik is pretty simple tbh just hit ur tilt combos and chaingrabs and implement spacing, but also be ready to scrap and tech chase as well. Edgeguards include the use of needles, run off fairs, back air from ledge, even nair.
She can get pretty technical, so she definitely gets hard to actually MASTER what with her abysmal recovery as well as advanced techniques such as her poof tactics and turnaround needles, but its hard for me to imagine Sheik being difficult at low level. You're messing up pretty big on some of the basic concepts.
Ludvix only beats Papa Johns!
28:34 "we got the same character select screen" bro you are playing the same CHARACTER 😭
naw das zelda
Ludwig
Bro you're married now??
Now do one for puff, the easiest character tech skill wise.
Love this series
Starving rich family's assassin trained daughter
Best falco plays brain dead character
How does he get the missed l cancel color when he misses? Id love to know when I miss
Look up “gecko code miss L cancel” for a better visual guide, but u right click ur iso and look for the checkbox
good job luvdix
how do you play melee online?
Check out my “absolute beginners guide” goes over that :)
@Ludvix thank you, do you have a video explaining how to play one gamecube/wii on 2 TVs?
Nope, but there is many guides out there for that. I would look into softmodding a wii since that’s super easy and fast and also check FBM for a CRT tv near u some people give them away or check ur local melee discords, they can help u out and they might live super close to u too
Abuse grabs and tech chases more against spacies
Shiek is tough for doc. Shiek Fair is really good against Marios.
Do you play on keyboard? I swear i heard a keyboard in the background.
does this mean that you'll be taking matches off of Papa J's yoshi?
dope video man.
I'd say you don't grab enough.
Probably her most annoying feature.
Mostly throw spacies down and floaties up.
number 1 rule of EZ mode sheik usage: CHAINGRAB ANYTHING YOU CAN CHAINGRAB. Literally day 0 sheiks abuse this xD
sheik may be overloaded but…. yeah shes pretty cool😊
whada guys think? what should he have done? leave your comments below.
Good vid. Play zelda! Just use downsmash, fair/bair and jab.
lost twice to bowsers... all you have to do is needle grab pummel down throw grab pummel down throw....... upsmash
always downthrow tech chase big bodies like dk or bowser
Sheik has always been easy in lower to mid level
after that Sheik gets a lot more difficult because of the average neutral & horrible recovery
O yeah? If sheik is the easiest character to learn how come I keep losing? Checkmate
Why am I watching this LMAO
22:38 but it IS though xD
I guess that against bowser you just chaingrab him untill 90% and then go for the stock, cz sheik has a free chaingrab in most of the low tiers
Edit: Ices are really hard, iirc, Chudat have never been defeated by a Sheik
She's the exact opposite in ult online lmao
10:16 this person was just playing on boxx. they’re not actually good
Based 100 gec peach main
where are people playing this online smash bros?
I have a guide out for it :)
ludvix you have a wife 😭😭😭 I thought we were the same age
How do you play ranked on this game?
Watch my video “melee beginners guide”
This is good content
Chess video def inc.