I lived a lot of my 40+ years of polishing with a twisted wool pad a 2-speed Makita polisher and brown body shop style rough compound, and very few choices unless you were deep into the show car circuit and no TH-cam...I was able to perfect my technique because of the lack of choices, today I am making art with these new pads and polishes/paint sealants, it is way easier to make a car look nice today than the 1970's-80's... I am still using a Rotary polisher although I do use a DA style polisher for certain parts of the job...Thanks for the video...
Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your comment. It is true, things have changed a lot recently and those of us who have been around for a few decades remember a time where you just had to "make do" and figure out how to make what you had work because there was no other choice. It is a great time to be anyone who polishes stuff! More choices, better products, and products that are designed to make the job easier and less taxing on the operator.
I just used the wool pad on a Duetto, 5 inch plate. I used it on a 2016 Honda Civic, black and a daily driver. I paired the pad with Rupes All in One. Even with moderate to light defects, it worked great!!! My daughter was overwhelmed by just that little cutting that occurred in defect removal. It left such a shine. I cannot wait to get a sealant and wax on it. Thanks guys for all the tutorials and confidence that comes with them. Please, keep them coming and stay the course.
Thanks for watching - just to be clear, the wool pads shown in this video are designed only for rotary. If you're using wool with the LHR12E Duetto and UNO Protect we'd recommend our yellow D-A Wool (part code 9.BW150M) or D-A Blue Wool (part code 9.BW150H). Also, the UNO Protect all in one has sealant in it already. No need to top it - you're protected for 90 days + with the application you've done.
Used these pads today on an unknown clear coat. I would say on the medium scale. Spot on everything you said. I will be getting the twisted pair for boats and the cut and finish for nearly everything else. Love it!
More videos with all three of you guys please. Your like super smart versions of the three stooges and I do mean that with much respect. you work well together. Educate but make it fun at the same time = more views. Like ads, make them funny and people will watch them. One thing I know costs me a bit of time but delivers the tiniest wool scratch pattern/buffer trails is refining as I cut with wool or any pad, cleaning the crap out of it with air and lowering that RPM, faster arm speed (learned that from you Jason - thanks) Too many detailers just want cut then deal with the mess afterwards. Id rather refine the shit out of my first step and make the next one or two steps all about gloss and not fixing marks. I love using lighter compounds and finishing polishes with wool to prevent the build up of dry pasty compound and paint residue on the fibres that causes scouring. The fibres work better with a liquid thats wetter and lubricates very well to keep the fibres moist not stuff like Farecla G3 paste of the past and all that pine oil in it. I love Super fine grade wool and would love to try some NSW or Tasmanian ultra fine grade 10 micron wool on a polisher. There's a suggestion for you. Superb finish quality potentially but maybe I will be proven wrong. Would be great to have a range of wools for rotary. 0.5 inch, 1 inch, 1.5 and 2 inch pile heights. 0.5 for mad cut. maybe its a bad idea, you would know better than me but just a thought. Like a Surbuf pad but ultra short wool material instead. I will not reply to some videos for a while, let others have their say. Your the smart guys Im just passionate.
Great video, I have LHR15, LHR75r, and now got an LH18ens rotary. Can blue DA wool pad be used on rotary for cutting, it looks fairly similar to cut and finish blue wool pad
Thanks for posting your question. Can? Yes... it will attach and work. Should? Probably not. The foam composition for the DA pads interface is not really well suited to rotary application and tends to deteriorate quickly. Also the fibers of the Cut & Finish are far more effective on a rotary tool.
Rupes, just ordered my 2nd Rotary of yours, i absolutely love that unit, most Boat Detailers do not even know it exists. On Gelcoat, why not do some educational videos, I know gelcoat can be a mystery to alot of Big time detailers but I think it would differentiate You guys
Thanks for the input. We actually are very active in the marine market both at the OEM and reconditioning level. We have even begun to conduct marine centric training at our BigFoot Academy. Be on the lookout for more gelcoat centered content in the future.
What would be recommend on 3000 grit da cut on fresh paint. Mostly restoration work is what we do so we must level the clear and bring out that shine. Would love to here your expertise on your system. Prefer to stick with the rotary products.
Thanks for posting your question. It comes down to a question of paint hardness, which can vary so wildly it is hard to make a one size fits all recommendation. On a softer paint system, using rotary, our foam pad range would typically have no issue removing a 3000 grit mark. On something harder, like the paint we had to work on in this particular video or something like PPG EC530 you're probably looking to go more with the Cut & Finish Wool Pad to get through a 3000 grit mark efficiently.
@@RUPES Wondering if you can confirm something for me, can you confirm the thread size on the 19E rotary is 5/8 for the USA, and 14MM for Europe? I'm trying to find out what it is for Canada
Would depend on the paint, but in a lot of cases if you get the combo right you should be able to refine from that twisted wool to a foam pad in one step, at worst 2 additional steps. On a medium or softer paint a single foam pad step would fully remedy the artifact left by the twisted wool.
Also worth mentioning - it depends a lot on what your target finish is. In many shops technicians will switch tools entirely, and follow the rotary+wool cut with something like the LHR21 and yellow wool to finish out the panel. In other cases they'll step down using only rotary products.
We don't hear a lot about dusting with rotary coarse. Make sure you're not overloading the pad, that you're not over cycling the compound, and your spurring or blowing the pad out. It has a long open time, but in our experience rotary users tend to run long, even longer than what most compounds are designed for. If it continues to be an issue please reach out to our team so we can get you in touch with our team to have a conversation about it in more detail and help solve the issue. www.rupesusa.com/contact-us
Compound amount is a variable and will depend on your technique, the size of the pad you're running, the type of pad, the drag created by the paint, ambient conditions, etc. The best advice is "only enough to get the job done". Since you are experiencing dusting try using less than you currently are and monitor your results. If you experience any negative effect from the reduction then return to the previous amount and try reducing your cycle times instead. Fine tuning for a condition like dusting comes down, to some degree, testing and eliminating variables.
@@RUPES Thx. Do you also offer a compound for gelcoat. The xc1 is specifically formulated for Rupes Random Orbital LHR series and gear driven LK900 polishers. Is there a compound for rotary ?
@@RUPES Thank you very much. One last question. The Scorpio E would be also very interesting for our company. Which orbit would you recommend for gelcoat(wet sanding)? Your videos are great. Pherhaps you can also focous on marine applications in your videos. The demand(boat detailing) in Europe is getting higher and higher.
For sanding 6mm tends to be the most popular. We have a lot of marine related content planned. Just takes a bit more planning to get a boat into our facilities. Stay tuned and make sure you are subscribed for updates!
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I lived a lot of my 40+ years of polishing with a twisted wool pad a 2-speed Makita polisher and brown body shop style rough compound, and very few choices unless you were deep into the show car circuit and no TH-cam...I was able to perfect my technique because of the lack of choices, today I am making art with these new pads and polishes/paint sealants, it is way easier to make a car look nice today than the 1970's-80's... I am still using a Rotary polisher although I do use a DA style polisher for certain parts of the job...Thanks for the video...
Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your comment. It is true, things have changed a lot recently and those of us who have been around for a few decades remember a time where you just had to "make do" and figure out how to make what you had work because there was no other choice. It is a great time to be anyone who polishes stuff! More choices, better products, and products that are designed to make the job easier and less taxing on the operator.
I just used the wool pad on a Duetto, 5 inch plate. I used it on a 2016 Honda Civic, black and a daily driver. I paired the pad with Rupes All in One. Even with moderate to light defects, it worked great!!! My daughter was overwhelmed by just that little cutting that occurred in defect removal. It left such a shine. I cannot wait to get a sealant and wax on it. Thanks guys for all the tutorials and confidence that comes with them. Please, keep them coming and stay the course.
Thanks for watching - just to be clear, the wool pads shown in this video are designed only for rotary. If you're using wool with the LHR12E Duetto and UNO Protect we'd recommend our yellow D-A Wool (part code 9.BW150M) or D-A Blue Wool (part code 9.BW150H).
Also, the UNO Protect all in one has sealant in it already. No need to top it - you're protected for 90 days + with the application you've done.
Used these pads today on an unknown clear coat. I would say on the medium scale. Spot on everything you said. I will be getting the twisted pair for boats and the cut and finish for nearly everything else. Love it!
Great to hear!
More videos with all three of you guys please. Your like super smart versions of the three stooges and I do mean that with much respect. you work well together. Educate but make it fun at the same time = more views. Like ads, make them funny and people will watch them. One thing I know costs me a bit of time but delivers the tiniest wool scratch pattern/buffer trails is refining as I cut with wool or any pad, cleaning the crap out of it with air and lowering that RPM, faster arm speed (learned that from you Jason - thanks) Too many detailers just want cut then deal with the mess afterwards. Id rather refine the shit out of my first step and make the next one or two steps all about gloss and not fixing marks. I love using lighter compounds and finishing polishes with wool to prevent the build up of dry pasty compound and paint residue on the fibres that causes scouring. The fibres work better with a liquid thats wetter and lubricates very well to keep the fibres moist not stuff like Farecla G3 paste of the past and all that pine oil in it. I love Super fine grade wool and would love to try some NSW or Tasmanian ultra fine grade 10 micron wool on a polisher. There's a suggestion for you. Superb finish quality potentially but maybe I will be proven wrong. Would be great to have a range of wools for rotary. 0.5 inch, 1 inch, 1.5 and 2 inch pile heights. 0.5 for mad cut. maybe its a bad idea, you would know better than me but just a thought. Like a Surbuf pad but ultra short wool material instead. I will not reply to some videos for a while, let others have their say. Your the smart guys Im just passionate.
The man the myth the legend! Todd Helme everybody 😊
Это лучшие шерстяные круги которые я пробовал за 10 лет работы. Супер
Yes. It was helpful. Great to see them side by side
Glad it was helpful!
Rupes are the best , happy i stop work with Chimical guys pads . wool pads are the moster
Great video, I have LHR15, LHR75r, and now got an LH18ens rotary. Can blue DA wool pad be used on rotary for cutting, it looks fairly similar to cut and finish blue wool pad
Thanks for posting your question. Can? Yes... it will attach and work. Should? Probably not. The foam composition for the DA pads interface is not really well suited to rotary application and tends to deteriorate quickly. Also the fibers of the Cut & Finish are far more effective on a rotary tool.
in that case, are the pads from the rotary machine better for Dual Action because they will last longer
Gel coat! More gel coat in your vids please👍🏻
Noted! We actually have something in process about gelcoat surfaces. If there is anything more specific you want to know or have us cover let us know!
Rupes, just ordered my 2nd Rotary of yours, i absolutely love that unit, most Boat Detailers do not even know it exists. On Gelcoat, why not do some educational videos, I know gelcoat can be a mystery to alot of Big time detailers but I think it would differentiate You guys
Thanks for the input. We actually are very active in the marine market both at the OEM and reconditioning level. We have even begun to conduct marine centric training at our BigFoot Academy. Be on the lookout for more gelcoat centered content in the future.
What would be recommend on 3000 grit da cut on fresh paint. Mostly restoration work is what we do so we must level the clear and bring out that shine. Would love to here your expertise on your system. Prefer to stick with the rotary products.
Thanks for posting your question. It comes down to a question of paint hardness, which can vary so wildly it is hard to make a one size fits all recommendation. On a softer paint system, using rotary, our foam pad range would typically have no issue removing a 3000 grit mark. On something harder, like the paint we had to work on in this particular video or something like PPG EC530 you're probably looking to go more with the Cut & Finish Wool Pad to get through a 3000 grit mark efficiently.
So if I were to start with the blue foam as the 1st step would I then need to go with the yellow as a 2nd step or the white with the uno shine?
Great question...?
Really liked this, thanks for the comparison
Thanks for watching!
@@RUPES Wondering if you can confirm something for me, can you confirm the thread size on the 19E rotary is 5/8 for the USA, and 14MM for Europe? I'm trying to find out what it is for Canada
5/8. Tools from Canada come from our US factory
@@RUPES Thanks very much, I just ordered one, and wanted the thread size so I could order the right extensions to use smaller pads.
Is the polish size of 6 x pad size;
6 pads laid out like 2 rows of 3 or,
6 pad lengths in each direction, ie 36 pads in a square?
Visually obviously.
Approximately 6x the size of the pad, as in an area equivalent of 6 pads (2 pads x 3 pads roughly in this case)
Should you jump from your whool twisted to coarse foam pad or do you have to do 3 steps always
Would depend on the paint, but in a lot of cases if you get the combo right you should be able to refine from that twisted wool to a foam pad in one step, at worst 2 additional steps. On a medium or softer paint a single foam pad step would fully remedy the artifact left by the twisted wool.
Also worth mentioning - it depends a lot on what your target finish is. In many shops technicians will switch tools entirely, and follow the rotary+wool cut with something like the LHR21 and yellow wool to finish out the panel. In other cases they'll step down using only rotary products.
How do I bring down the dusting on the rotary coarse compound? Water?
We don't hear a lot about dusting with rotary coarse. Make sure you're not overloading the pad, that you're not over cycling the compound, and your spurring or blowing the pad out. It has a long open time, but in our experience rotary users tend to run long, even longer than what most compounds are designed for. If it continues to be an issue please reach out to our team so we can get you in touch with our team to have a conversation about it in more detail and help solve the issue. www.rupesusa.com/contact-us
@@RUPES what’s the amount I should be using on the blue coarse foam pads and the twisted blue wool pads?
Compound amount is a variable and will depend on your technique, the size of the pad you're running, the type of pad, the drag created by the paint, ambient conditions, etc. The best advice is "only enough to get the job done". Since you are experiencing dusting try using less than you currently are and monitor your results. If you experience any negative effect from the reduction then return to the previous amount and try reducing your cycle times instead. Fine tuning for a condition like dusting comes down, to some degree, testing and eliminating variables.
Nice video, thanks👍
Thanks for watching
Which Pad would you recommend for gelcoat?
Either of the wool depending on level of defect/oxidation.
@@RUPES Thx. Do you also offer a compound for gelcoat. The xc1 is specifically formulated for Rupes Random Orbital LHR series and gear driven LK900 polishers. Is there a compound for rotary ?
Our standard rotary compounds perform excellent on gelcoat.
@@RUPES Thank you very much. One last question. The Scorpio E would be also very interesting for our company. Which orbit would you recommend for gelcoat(wet sanding)? Your videos are great. Pherhaps you can also focous on marine applications in your videos. The demand(boat detailing) in Europe is getting higher and higher.
For sanding 6mm tends to be the most popular.
We have a lot of marine related content planned. Just takes a bit more planning to get a boat into our facilities. Stay tuned and make sure you are subscribed for updates!