I’m mad I saw a meme that said Boyz II Men make music for men trying to get to first base while Jodeci makes music for the men already at dudes shorty house humpin 😫🤣🤣🤣
I was Mike’s waitress back in the day at Moody’s on the Pike in Philly . He was very nice and left me a generous tip. Something I’ll never forget. I pray everything works out for him and children.
Mike was The Fourth Member of Boyz ll Men , but Overall he was one of The Top two Bass Singers in The Entire Motown Legacy , amongst Melvin Franklin of The Temptations.
Yeah, but the difference between Mike and Melvin from the talent Temptations was, Melvin was ride or die member and leader and mentor of this successful group, MATTERS PEOPLE PEACE&LOVE
Boyz ll men had a very brief appearance in the new edition movie. I literally blinked and they were gone. But it wasn't their movie so it is what it is. Otherwise it would've been a 4 hour movie
I thought that too. They were portrayed in new edition. I can't remember if Boyz II Men inspired their name or Bel biv davoe. Either way, the part they played made it seem like we should expect to see the direction Boyz II Men went in after that conversation with new edition. I'm still waiting
I live with Multiple Sclerosis and it's horrible the first place it attacks is your back, I feel bad this had to end his career and friendship 😩😢🙏🏾wishing them all the best we need music like this in 2023💙
I totally understand Mike, not wanting to disclose his diagnosis. I was diagnosed with MS at 29, it's so hard. I had to share my diagnosis, when I loss my vision due to MS. Prayers to him and his family.
I know they felt stupid when "I'll Make Love to You" became one of the biggest hits. They needed to give Babyface an apology for how they treated him. Yes, their first album was successful but they wasn't as successful as Babyface.
in their behind the music interview and in several subsequent interviews when asked about it Shawn always mentions that they tucked their tails in their legs and called him to apologize. They been cool and never doubted him ever since. seems to me everybody else likes bringing it up though, especially after that Dallas Austin interview
I don't think they disrespected him personally, but I do know they weren't feeling the song and not because it wasn't good but it had the same type vibe as "End Of The Road" but they have worked with Babyface plenty of times since then even after Motown. Marc Nelson also wrote songs with and for Babyface and his artists which is how he became a part of Az Yet, Az Yet were signed to LaFace and were put together by Babyface. Which is why that didn't last, there was no chemistry or brotherhood there by them being put together as a group and not naturally formed into a group
Michael is literally the sweetest. He deserves the world. His band members need to understand that he can’t give his all bc he still has health issues.
@@ShaGemDropper i don’t care what nobody says, Shawn, Nate & Wanya are selfish and until this happens to them they won’t understand what mike is going thru.
I got to give props to Michael Bivins from The Super Group New Edition and Bell Biv Devoe for discovering and putting Boyz II Men on the map and being a good businessman at the same time straight underrated he don't get his credit like he should
I think the other 3 members egos were a lil hit by Michael's voice and attractiveness. Plus, he always seemed to be the most down to earth and friendliest of the group. I wish him well and I pray that he gets his time to shine again 🙏🏽✨
Mike is the sweetest one out of the group. My friends took pictures with him and he wasn't stuck up. They were touring with Mc Hammer and TLC back then.
I was really hurt when Michael was no longer in the group. I just expect to hear his bass voice in the songs and nobody can duplicate him. Since they're supposed to be full grown men now, they need to sit down in person and talk to each other about what happened and what needs to happen. I'd love to see him rejoin them. It's just not the same without him.
No. As much as I loved him...he wanted no parts of the group when it wasn't as poppin like back in the day. Then they did that cover album & got a Vegas gig he wants back in....nah my good brother.
I refuse to pay to see Boyz ii men live without Mike. They need to humble themselves, have some compassion, and be thankful for how much he helped their success. Until he's back I could care less about them.
Depression is a thing. It’s so messed up, it can ruin everything it comes near. I can relate, I struggle with it. My prayers go out to this group, been a fan since 1991.
@@OfficialTruDru oh wow I didn't know that. Its not too far fetched though based on Brandy's side of how their relationship was. She was in love with him and he basically moved on without her knowing.
@@OfficialTruDru I always thought he was with brandy for publicity (maybe she had more feelings for him than he had for her 🤷🏾♀️), but I remember that love triangle between him, brandy and adina howard (which had an effect on her career)
Poor Mike! Hasn’t seen his children in 7 years. He was my favorite of the group. My brother has MS so I have a soft spot for Mike because I can’t imagine the pain he is going through
The original lineup of Boyz II Men is a prime example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Wish health issues and ego trips had not killed their enormous success.
The fact that they officially unincluded him to receive a Hollywood Star is unsettling to me... especially when he was on ALL their gold platinum and diamond albums... after he left they couldnt even go gold anymore and yet they don’t give him a fuckin STAR? that’s actually disturbing
Thank you RRG for this video, I always wondered what happened to Mike from Boyz II Men. He definitely was the voice that stood out in the group. Their harmonies were unmatched. 🙌🏾🙌🏾
He has the best voice! But they say they don't really need him because Nathan is a baritone as well. That's how their sound has been able to stay the same throughout the years 😔
This is really sad and disappointing. I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis at age 39 and I know how it feels for people to worry more about money and themselves more than your well being. :-( Sorry you had to go through that Mike... you still have fans out here!! :-)
That’s sad and disappointing to learn they had bad attitudes and alienated writers like the legendary Babyface?!!! What a privilege to work with him! An honor to get one of his songs. I would’ve loved for them to have a longer run on top.
I 1 million percent agree. From the temptations, to Freddie Jackson, to Keith sweat, jodeci , and boys 2 men. unfortunately, the r&b music has died. Much like rap. Just really a shame that has happened
Growing up an 80’s baby and a pre-teen/teen of the 90’s, B2M were LITERALLY the soundtrack of my LIFE!!! I always wondered what happened to them as a group and Mike and for some reason, I always compared them to not only the Temptations, but in being more specific, Mike to Melvin of the Temptations. From his beautiful deep singing voice and even down to his medical condition. I thought he and Melvin had the same condition/disease. So great hearing his story! You never let us down and always provide us with truthful and informative content!
Mike ALWAYS stood out to me. I do remember when he used a cain and he walked with a slight limp; but he was so Rico Suave about it you can see he didn't let that hinder anything. As soon as he started talking in his bass boosted, big tree stump dck voice I was like "Wanya, Shawn, Nathan WHO??" LOL! He also has a nice smile. I like that he was loyal to the band and he didn't dip out the first chance he got. God bless him for that.😁
My bff Jason live in Calli and he has a home girl that was a video model. The things Misty said about the brothers was shocking. Wayne thinking he was the shit likes to go after Nate's girls. She wasn't interested in Nate like that but they exchanged numbers and kept in touch. Wayne was doing what competitive young men do and they ended up fighting, like for real. Thats how she knew Nate was fed up because they were platonic although it was obvious he wanted more. She's actually in Mint Conditions video Whoa. It happened around that time because they were on tour.
Don't know how true this is but one thing I noticed is that everyone that worked with them complained about their inflated egos after becoming successful. Your gift and ambition as well as drive to succeed is essential and important but your character is the foundation that everything else is built on. Basically a lousy character can bring everything else crashing down...
Money doesn't change people, it just enhances who you are. Also seems that Motown tends to take advantage of new artists. How many times have we heard those horrible things about them.
Based on the clip that they showed of Kandi's interview, it seems that she was uneasy about going into depth with their encounter. She kind of let them pull it out and cosign on what the interviewers said. They do seem like they were jerks back then.....everybody aint lyin.
I know, one of my best friend's brother has lived with MS all of his life. I haven't bought an album by then since their second album because I heard the stories. Friends of mine who met them over the years can speak to that fact. Battling back to back major illnesses plus therapy informs you who are the real friends and family in your life especially when money is involved!
MS is a bitch. I've lost my job,woman, ability to drive, ability to stand longer than 10 mins(if that),I'm 39 using a cane/walker and bathroom problems. I can go on but... MS is a beast that's tore me up, especially in the head. Thankfully my kids keep me sane. All you can do is stay strong and battle on.
They never wanted a new 4th member. They knew they would make more money and profit with just three members. They only wanted Mike around for the 20-year anniversary. After that end,they gave him a sorry deal he knew he wouldn't take. That's why Mike is not in the group because they felt like he could have did more.
So sad you would take advantage of your partner knowing his circumstances. And really don't care for their music. Real bad attitudes . Since someone is sick you take advantage.
Mike was my absolute favorite member ! Bay-beeee..you don't even understand LOL... As a Phillygirl in the 90s, I was around their age, and I was obsessed with Boyz to Men & everyone knew it... and man I had the HUGEST crush on Mike. I had all their albums- in English & Spanish . It’s funny how life turns out, the irony is that years later - I wound up having his son as my student in class! Crazy right ?! This was a great video- very eye opening 🌟 I wish him the best...he seems like a really nice guy!
A parent that separates their children from their former spouse/partner is wicked. If you have issues with each other hash that out separately don't drag the children into it. All you do is continue this vicious cycle from generation to generation.
I think it's crappy that the three remaining in the group did an album with some of the old songs and took Mike's part out. You just don't do that. I'm glad I have the songs with his part in it.
Sad to hear about Mike's medical condition. Sending prayers! I'm a firm believer that prayer changes things! In Jesus Name 🙌🙌❤️ And also give you the strength you need to get through your wilderness. As far as your singing partners, they definitely should be a bit more understanding and encouraging. You all have supported each other for so many years. No one knows what may fall in their door steps. God is able to do the impossible. Always enjoyed you all music. 🎵🎶 Much love to all. Praying 🙏🙏🙏❤️
A praying American citizen is one of the wonders of the world really. Because that country is proving to be modern day Babylon and it just blinds her people from seeing the light
Thanks for confirming! I was always told that Mike had to abandon the group because he had lost his voice through laryngitis or something.... NOW I KNOW THE TRUTH.
All I can say is WOW! What a great group ... and prayers and love go out to mike! Mike, try to understand why the guys have no choice but to contractually protect themselves. In any event, all four of you are fabulous in my book!
Mike has always been my favorite in the group. I remember having the HUGEST crush on him when I was a teenager... without his voice, they're just boyz... ❤ ya still Mike
I use to love I mean absolutely love Boys 2 Men until I seen Nathan at the mall when I was teenager he was so mean/rude when I asked him for a autograph that was a lesson taught for me with celebs And Mike was handsome his voice ❤😍🔥
That does not surprise me about Nathan being rude and mean too. My one friend is related to Shawn and she told me that he think he is better then everyone in his family. When she need help and he would not help her
Wow. That's why I never even attempt to approach a celebrity. If they care rude I will instantly never watch anything with them in it...lol. I'd rather just not know.
Yes Nate is rude he was arguing with me in my inbox because I responded to a post about why I think Mike is not in the group. Nate literally inboxed and then blocked me after I told him hes proving my point by arguing with me.
There's a Vladtv interview with Dallas Austin saying how Boyz II Men was complete a-holes towards everyone including Babyface. Don't let the good guy images fool you..
Without “Bass” Mike, there’s no Boyz ll Men. What a shame to hear they haven’t been humble as they should have been. Be humble & grateful! Get MIKE back & start making sweet music again already!
How could they have forgotten that Babyface wrote "End of the Road" for them and that was a major hit on both their first album and "Boomerang" Soundtrack?!
Regardless of what transpired within this phenomenal group. I am forever grateful for their music. It has helped me create some awesome memories, that the songs where a part of my teen years, back in the 90's. WOW !!!!
I feel they have NO empathy for Mike. Why he got to sell his soul to be back in the band to ensure they're good. His health is more important. The 3 guys are just lame. I'm rooting for Mike ❤🙏🏾 his been through it ❤🙏🏾 ❤🙏🏾
@@JahleeyahKalonji And your so right. That's when they started to rub out when Mike left. And I agree if Mikes back I'm all the way in . Because he is and always will be the bass and back bone of Boyz 2 Men. Period ❤
I was SOOOOO in love with Mike. Ironically, I ended up getting diagnosed with MS shortly before he did. MS is no joke, and many ppl don't understand the real toll it takes on your body and mind. I have had to retire from my career because of it. I feel his pain. OAN, it amazes me that Nate tries to act like Dallas Austin is lying about how horrible they were! And now, Kandi has said the same. When I was in college, they came for a concert, and fans couldn't wait to see the show. The show was lackluster, and for the ppl who had backstage passes, they were treated like we were beneath them. I mean, HORRIBLE, arrogant, nasty! All except for Shawn. Mike wasn't as bad. But that WANYA...OMG--horrible person, and Nate wasn't far behind. It was so bad that ppl were throwing their CDs and cassettes in the trash on campus. This was mid 90s LOL.
wow after watching this I don’t know if I could listen to their music anymore. Sorry to hear about your MS condition. I think Mike was brave to finally tell the world he has MS. It was cruel of his ex wife to cut off his relationship to their kids tho. That’s messed up
@@sarabennett6295 thank you so much. I agree. I hope they can mend the father/children relationship. Life is short. May they all find peace and healing.
So sorry to hear of your diagnosis. I have fibromyalgia and had to give up my nursing career because of it. So I understand the devastation illnesses like these cause physically and emotionally. Positive vibes and wishes for better days❣
@@courtneygooden9609 Exactly. I'm sorry for what you're going through. I truly feel your pain. It's hard to commit to 100% when your days are so unpredictable. As you said, some days, we can't feel our arms, legs, feet...can't walk. Wishing you health and healing.
Please be advised, just if anyone didn't know, the masterminds behind The Boyz 2Men Volume Two album, were SuperProducers TIM KELLY and BOB ROBINSON. The duo of Tim&Bob, whom was given the major task by Dallas Austin to produce that sophomore album, which became their most highlighted award winning album.
Out of all the boys, Mike was always my favorite bass singer. I'll give you that, but overall, I do hope that Boys2Men will keep staying together throughout anything else. In my eyes, they always had a type of brotherhood together. Stay strong boys, and every one else too. Stay strong. We are in this thing together, and the sad part about having ME is that it's both unpredictable and there is no cure for it yet. I know because both me and my mom have it as well. Stay Strong. 🙏
I will always say young brothers and sisters cannot handle $$$$!! Period. I am a huge Babyface and Dallas fan. Man those are supposed to be our elders and gate keepers how can you be disrespectful to them?? Sigh
that part in the Jackson 5 movie where Boyz II Men sing is one of my favorite parts 😍 I hate that Mikes not in the group anymore though. they sound perfect together ❤
I went to their concert before the pandemic and they were really great! But it was very different to not hear Mike do the bass in some of their earlier hits.
Chronic health problems like MS are EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to live with. Once the systems show, your life is not the same in Any capacity. Healthy people don't understand... they needed to be more empathetic to Mike's situation.
They still have great voices. But they dont have that same sound without Mike, if you listen to their early stuff, Mike's baritone voice had its importance. Especially when theyd sing acapella.
Good luck Mike. You guys made great music. Better days and better music! Always reminds me of a better time and place than where we are all in now. Peace and love brothers. Good luck to all you guys.
Hey! Glad this came on my feed on YT! I hope everything works out for Mike’s relationship with his children. Thank you for sharing this information with, I never really knew what happened with Boyz to Men. 🙂
I was blessed enough to meet and hang out with Mike out here in LA and hes one of the most down to earth celebrities I have ever dealt with back in my promoting days, I was calling him Mr. Mccary and he told me to just call him Mike. I hope hes doing great and it would he great to run into him again.
Thank You for the great video! There has NOT been a time when I watched one of your video’s that’s been nothing but...great! Than You for all the time you put into making your videos! I had not followed boyz to men music as closely as some friends. I did like their music tho. It really sucks to hear that they had that “better than” attitude in the recording studio. It sucks when people come from singing in the boys bathroom to mega-stardom. And, Mayb forget where they have come from? Idk.
Dallas Austin don't get enough acknowledgement. He was apart of the shift in production in the music sene coming into the early 90's, hip hop r&b and rap was changed. Give that man his flowers, TLC, ABC (another bad creation) ect. He was most definitely apart of the sound of the early to mid 90's alone with Teddy Ralley, Jermaine Dupre and Dr.dre.
I’m mad I saw a meme that said Boyz II Men make music for men trying to get to first base while Jodeci makes music for the men already at dudes shorty house humpin 😫🤣🤣🤣
😩😩😩
OMG 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's what I love about R&B, especially 90s R&B, there's something for everyone 😂
I laughed!😫😫😫😫
@@Jaheartsjonas 😂😂 literally for everyyyyoneeee 🤣🙌🏾 for the lovers and the wham bam folks
I was Mike’s waitress back in the day at Moody’s on the Pike in Philly . He was very nice and left me a generous tip. Something I’ll never forget. I pray everything works out for him and children.
Hey!!!! I worked @ Moody's too!!!! R.I.P. Mr. Moody🙏🏿
Was that all he gave you? 🤔
@@LilacStar82 God bless you!
@@MsQueen215 A trailblazer! One of the first black business owners of his kind in the community!🙂
That's crazy Sheila, I stopped through there last night. It's now called MOONLIGHT CUISINE!
Mike was The Fourth Member of Boyz ll Men , but Overall he was one of The Top two Bass Singers in The Entire Motown Legacy , amongst Melvin Franklin of The Temptations.
I always said he was the modern day Melvin!
I always said he was the modern day Melvin!
Yeah, but the difference between
Mike and Melvin from the talent
Temptations was, Melvin was
ride or die member and leader
and mentor of this successful
group, MATTERS PEOPLE
PEACE&LOVE
Facts
Sssooooooooooo many forget that about this man and they are not given the proper recognition for it either
Someone needs to put out a Boyz II Men movie just like they did New Edition. I think it would be good!!
Yes
Boyz ll men had a very brief appearance in the new edition movie. I literally blinked and they were gone. But it wasn't their movie so it is what it is. Otherwise it would've been a 4 hour movie
Facts
great idea
I thought that too. They were portrayed in new edition. I can't remember if Boyz II Men inspired their name or Bel biv davoe. Either way, the part they played made it seem like we should expect to see the direction Boyz II Men went in after that conversation with new edition. I'm still waiting
I live with Multiple Sclerosis and it's horrible the first place it attacks is your back, I feel bad this had to end his career and friendship 😩😢🙏🏾wishing them all the best we need music like this in 2023💙
How do they expect someone with MS to "give 100%?" 😮
I live with MS as well it is indeed horrible its a pity rhe other mwmberS didnt understand
I have it also. It's horror some days and I don't wish it on any person.
I totally understand Mike, not wanting to disclose his diagnosis. I was diagnosed with MS at 29, it's so hard. I had to share my diagnosis, when I loss my vision due to MS. Prayers to him and his family.
May God continue to bless you
@@futurefind674 Blessings to you and thank you so much. I can only imagine what you have endured and more. Strength and prosperity to you.
I’ve met someone that said juicing helped them recover from being in a wheelchair while going through their ms. Praying for you❤❤❤
Praying for you 🙏
@@letitiacooper98 Thank you!
I know they felt stupid when "I'll Make Love to You" became one of the biggest hits. They needed to give Babyface an apology for how they treated him. Yes, their first album was successful but they wasn't as successful as Babyface.
Babyface and L.a.Reid also wrote End of the road.
in their behind the music interview and in several subsequent interviews when asked about it Shawn always mentions that they tucked their tails in their legs and called him to apologize. They been cool and never doubted him ever since. seems to me everybody else likes bringing it up though, especially after that Dallas Austin interview
I don't think they disrespected him personally, but I do know they weren't feeling the song and not because it wasn't good but it had the same type vibe as "End Of The Road" but they have worked with Babyface plenty of times since then even after Motown. Marc Nelson also wrote songs with and for Babyface and his artists which is how he became a part of Az Yet, Az Yet were signed to LaFace and were put together by Babyface. Which is why that didn't last, there was no chemistry or brotherhood there by them being put together as a group and not naturally formed into a group
Exactly and I’m sure they did. Sad!!
I know the money they got probably gave cover to their stupidity
Michael is literally the sweetest. He deserves the world. His band members need to understand that he can’t give his all bc he still has health issues.
👏🏾 thank u!!! I think the only people who really understand this are people who experience debilitating pain as well!!!
@@ShaGemDropper i don’t care what nobody says, Shawn, Nate & Wanya are selfish and until this happens to them they won’t understand what mike is going thru.
Facts...I have MS as well 🙏🏽
But G.O.D.☝🏽 is good🤍
But the fact that he has moved on and doesn't bother them makes him even more special.
@@kennishaestes3610 I hope everything is alright with you love. ill pray for you
I got to give props to Michael Bivins from The Super Group New Edition and Bell Biv Devoe for discovering and putting Boyz II Men on the map and being a good businessman at the same time straight underrated he don't get his credit like he should
He got the $$$$ tho, apparently he took most of the money from there first album
Don’t forget another bad creation
@@esh5168 That's a fact
@@18hallmark True
He beat his artists the same way NE got beat...
I think the other 3 members egos were a lil hit by Michael's voice and attractiveness. Plus, he always seemed to be the most down to earth and friendliest of the group. I wish him well and I pray that he gets his time to shine again 🙏🏽✨
He definitely was more down to earth.
He was so handsome
I think this really is the heart of their problem
Amen. Michael is gorgeous and I would love to wear his voice😩😩😩 just sucks because they’re all wicked talented and are better together
Mike is the sweetest one out of the group. My friends took pictures with him and he wasn't stuck up. They were touring with Mc Hammer and TLC back then.
I was really hurt when Michael was no longer in the group. I just expect to hear his bass voice in the songs and nobody can duplicate him. Since they're supposed to be full grown men now, they need to sit down in person and talk to each other about what happened and what needs to happen. I'd love to see him rejoin them. It's just not the same without him.
AGREE, THEY WERE MISSING SOMETHING! MICHAEL VOICE MADE MY MOUTH WATER, AND IM BEING
.. (😉APPROPRIATE)
They need to have a reunion with him. I would love to see them all back together.
I'm all about the four part harmonies. Mike's bass voice was everything. All four of them were BEYOND epic together! Good times! 😍
No. As much as I loved him...he wanted no parts of the group when it wasn't as poppin like back in the day. Then they did that cover album & got a Vegas gig he wants back in....nah my good brother.
@@lacetide1227 They were in highschool
"I've not been a father anymore, I'm just a man with kids." That's deep. No pun intended.
Honestly & when you have no control over it that hurts more.
Shit😔
thats why you have to choose your woman very wisely n patiently which is still not a bulletproof method,smh
@@questorbit3303 Honestly because you gotta put your personal feelings aside for your kids but a lot of people aren't strong enough to do that.
Sad!
Babyface only writes and produces the best music out there! How dare they disrespect him!
Makes no sense at all! 🤦🏾♀️
That was really cold what they did
entitled brats..
Shows you what fame does to a person/ppl...turns some into entitled, egotistical & arrogant ppl.
@michael bruno 😂😂😂😂
I refuse to pay to see Boyz ii men live without Mike. They need to humble themselves, have some compassion, and be thankful for how much he helped their success. Until he's back I could care less about them.
Same here it’s jus not the same without him
RIGHT
FACTS!!
Same here
Like they're going to miss your money.
Depression is a thing.
It’s so messed up, it can ruin everything it comes near. I can relate, I struggle with it. My prayers go out to this group, been a fan since 1991.
We still standing!! #F*%kMS
MS is devastating
Thanks for the update. Its sad to see this confirm the rumors of them being rude to other Artist, including Mike. Shame on them!
Ikr it’s so sad that they let the fame get to their heads 😩
@@Lanaxparillaxwife typical
@@Lanaxparillaxwife What a waste.
@@danavixen6274 don’t say that 😩
@@Lanaxparillaxwife Had to. Tired of good groups dissolving because of crappy attitudes.
I cannot believe they disrespected thee Legendary hitmaker Babyface. “We don’t need your help”, I’m sorry what???
It's unbelievable! I always admired this group. I'm sad to know this! :(
Allegedly I would like to hear Babyface confirm this
@@nosindisomyeni Only sensible come here, folks just hear things and run with it.
@@TOKSVISIONZ I'm not sure if the disrespected Babyface or not but this isn't the first time I'm hearing about their attitude.
I love their music. It's disheartening to hear that so many people experienced them as basically being jerks.
Yeah I heard Brandy was preggo for Wanye and she Aborted the Baby
@@OfficialTruDru oh wow I didn't know that. Its not too far fetched though based on Brandy's side of how their relationship was. She was in love with him and he basically moved on without her knowing.
@@OfficialTruDru I always thought he was with brandy for publicity (maybe she had more feelings for him than he had for her 🤷🏾♀️), but I remember that love triangle between him, brandy and adina howard (which had an effect on her career)
Yep. I felt that way when they said that Cicely Tyson was the biggest bitch. I looked at her differently.
@@yourhusbandismyboyfriend1714 What? Who said that about our queen?
Mike played such an intricate role in boyz2men. The group aint shit without a bass singer.
I totally agree.
Real talk!
Yeah all they do is remake shit nowadays. Last good album was Full Circle and that was released 20 years ago.
Without the base they sound off
Real talk
Poor Mike! Hasn’t seen his children in 7 years. He was my favorite of the group. My brother has MS so I have a soft spot for Mike because I can’t imagine the pain he is going through
And I thought Jodeci was the r&b bad boys. Boyz 2 Men had the choir boy image and was Aholes behind the scenes. Hilarious!😅
LOL right.. Boyz II Men had the image, but JODECI were really the country choir boys at heart 😅😅 they just had the bad boy swag down pat..
@@KishBish right
Right! Lol
@@KishBish
Yes honey- Great Point💯👏🏽
Yeah they had that preacher's kid mentality.
Girl you be doing your research! That's why I love your channel
Thank you!! ❤️
My first time over here I'm almost 2 the end of the video thinking She put work N2 this ! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
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The original lineup of Boyz II Men is a prime example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Wish health issues and ego trips had not killed their enormous success.
But it always does... sad
@@Chitownhomestead Same with En Vogue. Very sad. 😔
Not all of the original lineup.
@@CleanMusicLover229 Ok. With the exception of the Az Yet member.
The fact that they officially unincluded him to receive a Hollywood Star is unsettling to me... especially when he was on ALL their gold platinum and diamond albums... after he left they couldnt even go gold anymore and yet they don’t give him a fuckin STAR? that’s actually disturbing
He was there
This group is a classic for dropping great music in the 90.You can't replace mike. His voice is everything.
He was best looking man in that whole group😂 never knew it was a b2m without him and I was born in 86.🤷🏾♀️
I agree
Same & I was born in 79 thingz that make ya go hmmmmmmm🤔
"And Wanya was "Squirt"" listen, I'm mature all that...but I chuckled at that part 🤣🤣. I know, I have to get my mind out the gutter 😞🤣
Evan G I fell out laughing too when I heard the nickname"Squirt" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
yep
Yeah you really do my guy lol
It’s an old people’s saying
Me to 🤔
Thank you RRG for this video, I always wondered what happened to Mike from Boyz II Men. He definitely was the voice that stood out in the group. Their harmonies were unmatched. 🙌🏾🙌🏾
He has the best voice! But they say they don't really need him because Nathan is a baritone as well. That's how their sound has been able to stay the same throughout the years 😔
This is really sad and disappointing. I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis at age 39 and I know how it feels for people to worry more about money and themselves more than your well being. :-( Sorry you had to go through that Mike... you still have fans out here!! :-)
That’s sad and disappointing to learn they had bad attitudes and alienated writers like the legendary Babyface?!!! What a privilege to work with him! An honor to get one of his songs. I would’ve loved for them to have a longer run on top.
Babyface will run you dry. Look what he did to TLC
Attitude bad !
Boyz 2 men are never the same without Mike
Nate and Shawn sounded absolutely awful at the Soul Train Music Awards a few years ago 🙉😖. Wanya saved that performance when he came in after them.😬
Totally agree 💯
It’s a movie when you post these vids!!!!!
LOL we try!
Yes!!
Yes!!
bruhhhh
So good!
He was my favourite. That voice....girrrllll!!!!
The best voice!
Like a younger version of Melvin Franklin of Tempations !
That second album was amazing!! R&B hasn't been the same since the early 2000's
Facts
I 1 million percent agree. From the temptations, to Freddie Jackson, to Keith sweat, jodeci , and boys 2 men. unfortunately, the r&b music has died. Much like rap. Just really a shame that has happened
Growing up an 80’s baby and a pre-teen/teen of the 90’s, B2M were LITERALLY the soundtrack of my LIFE!!! I always wondered what happened to them as a group and Mike and for some reason, I always compared them to not only the Temptations, but in being more specific, Mike to Melvin of the Temptations. From his beautiful deep singing voice and even down to his medical condition. I thought he and Melvin had the same condition/disease. So great hearing his story! You never let us down and always provide us with truthful and informative content!
Mike ALWAYS stood out to me. I do remember when he used a cain and he walked with a slight limp; but he was so Rico Suave about it you can see he didn't let that hinder anything. As soon as he started talking in his bass boosted, big tree stump dck voice I was like "Wanya, Shawn, Nathan WHO??" LOL! He also has a nice smile. I like that he was loyal to the band and he didn't dip out the first chance he got. God bless him for that.😁
Big tree stump 😂😂😂
I swear, I love you KIKI... whoever you are🤣🤣💀
@@GoldenGraham25 she always leaves the best comments 🤣
Chile not tree stump 🍆 voice 😂😂
@@GoldenGraham25 I love you too😁♥️
I wish yall could see my face right now ... Finding out my #1 loved group were a bunch of a-holes is blowing my mind.
...Allegedly 😩
@@rrg I met Kandy. She was awesome. If she says they were jerks...I’ll believe it
Can't judge a book....
You shouldn’t be shocked a lot of these artist are the same way I’ve heard so many stories about many singers acting this way.
My bff Jason live in Calli and he has a home girl that was a video model. The things Misty said about the brothers was shocking. Wayne thinking he was the shit likes to go after Nate's girls. She wasn't interested in Nate like that but they exchanged numbers and kept in touch. Wayne was doing what competitive young men do and they ended up fighting, like for real. Thats how she knew Nate was fed up because they were platonic although it was obvious he wanted more. She's actually in Mint Conditions video Whoa. It happened around that time because they were on tour.
He was always my favorite of the group.
He was my favorite, too.
@Gilbert Gonzales, and he LOOKS like a man!! I absolutely love tall, dark and handsome!
@Gilbert Gonzales, well, alright, LOL!!!
Don't know how true this is but one thing I noticed is that everyone that worked with them complained about their inflated egos after becoming successful. Your gift and ambition as well as drive to succeed is essential and important but your character is the foundation that everything else is built on. Basically a lousy character can bring everything else crashing down...
Forever will be a fan of Boyz ll Men.
Money doesn't change people, it just enhances who you are. Also seems that Motown tends to take advantage of new artists. How many times have we heard those horrible things about them.
You must haven't seen today's 20 yr old... Lbs
Just about everyone in Motown had issues. They are some crooks over there.
Facts 💯
EVERY artist had issues with Motown. I would never sign to them.
Kandi just said they were the hardest group to work them.
We included that in the video 😊
@@rrg Sorry! I commented before watching.
Based on the clip that they showed of Kandi's interview, it seems that she was uneasy about going into depth with their encounter. She kind of let them pull it out and cosign on what the interviewers said. They do seem like they were jerks back then.....everybody aint lyin.
@@jaerich02 cause I guess she just didn’t want to be rude but Dallas Austin said it all.
Yup. Her and Dallas Austin.
Boyz II Men were my whole teens! Thanks for a fantastic video! 💕
This group Boyz II Men just isn’t the same without Mike. Prayers going up for Mike.
They are one of the few groups that didn’t try to replace an original member, that is truly a rarity in that business❤️.
Multiple sclerosis will take everything from you. Stay strong Mike
I thought she said scoliosis 😐
@@smithereens1693 At first, he thought the pain was from scoliosis, but was later diagnosed with MS. She said it later in the video.
I know, one of my best friend's brother has lived with MS all of his life. I haven't bought an album by then since their second album because I heard the stories. Friends of mine who met them over the years can speak to that fact. Battling back to back major illnesses plus therapy informs you who are the real friends and family in your life especially when money is involved!
MS is a bitch. I've lost my job,woman, ability to drive, ability to stand longer than 10 mins(if that),I'm 39 using a cane/walker and bathroom problems. I can go on but... MS is a beast that's tore me up, especially in the head. Thankfully my kids keep me sane. All you can do is stay strong and battle on.
@@cwag4674 look up a herbalist name Patrick Delves
They never wanted a new 4th member. They knew they would make more money and profit with just three members. They only wanted Mike around for the 20-year anniversary. After that end,they gave him a sorry deal he knew he wouldn't take. That's why Mike is not in the group because they felt like he could have did more.
They asked their fans if they should bring in a 4th member and the fans said nope!
@@rrg Yeah! Fans don't like replacements
@@rrg No,the fans was really the 3 band members.
So sad you would take advantage of your partner knowing his circumstances. And really don't care for their music. Real bad attitudes . Since someone is sick you take advantage.
That’s not the reason. The man is sick
I wish they could work it out cuz I really miss Mike he was my favorite in the whole group blessings to all of them💕💕💕
yup, no Mike, no group
@@JahleeyahKalonji Elsa. Update
Mike was my absolute favorite member ! Bay-beeee..you don't even understand LOL... As a Phillygirl in the 90s, I was around their age, and I was obsessed with Boyz to Men & everyone knew it... and man I had the HUGEST crush on Mike. I had all their albums- in English & Spanish . It’s funny how life turns out, the irony is that years later - I wound up having his son as my student in class! Crazy right ?! This was a great video- very eye opening 🌟 I wish him the best...he seems like a really nice guy!
A parent that separates their children from their former spouse/partner is wicked. If you have issues with each other hash that out separately don't drag the children into it. All you do is continue this vicious cycle from generation to generation.
Absolutely! A complex web she's weaving. Poor Mike! I wish him divine help for all his troubles.
I tell ppl all the time don’t sleep on that IMAGE! It’s an IMAGE not their real life!!!
Exactly! They are no different from actors.
Is it just me or did it seem like Eddie Levert was not surprised when Kandi said Boyz II Men was difficult to work with
Right! He was like "Was it....the...attitude? 🤔 " He knew exactly what the deal was 😂😂
Because his sons and Marc Gordon (Levert) were making music when boyz ii men came out and they even performed on the same stage
he already knew and wanted to steer her to say it smh
*sips tea*
Lemme tell all of y'all something, you don't even know how much I LIVED for B2M as a teen!
I think it's crappy that the three remaining in the group did an album with some of the old songs and took Mike's part out. You just don't do that. I'm glad I have the songs with his part in it.
Sad to hear about Mike's medical condition. Sending prayers! I'm a firm believer that prayer changes things! In Jesus Name 🙌🙌❤️ And also give you the strength you need to get through your wilderness.
As far as your singing partners, they definitely should be a bit more understanding and encouraging. You all have supported each other for so many years. No one knows what may fall in their door steps. God is able to do the impossible. Always enjoyed you all music. 🎵🎶 Much love to all. Praying 🙏🙏🙏❤️
A praying American citizen is one of the wonders of the world really. Because that country is proving to be modern day Babylon and it just blinds her people from seeing the light
I was just asking about what happened to bass man from Boys 2 Men.....and here this is. Thank you!!!
Yay! Hope you enjoy it!
They watching 👀
Thanks for confirming! I was always told that Mike had to abandon the group because he had lost his voice through laryngitis or something.... NOW I KNOW THE TRUTH.
He has back problems. That's why he left.
He's got MS
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He lost his voice
And the Oscar for best celebrity coverage goes to RRG!!!!!! Yay!!!!!
Thank you!!! ❤️
@@rrg
I second that motion..
I subscribe to your Chanel after watching one of your review..
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Keep them coming I am all in.
Very yay!
All I can say is WOW!
What a great group ... and prayers and love go out to mike!
Mike, try to understand why the guys have no choice but to contractually protect themselves.
In any event, all four of you are fabulous in my book!
Mike has always been my favorite in the group. I remember having the HUGEST crush on him when I was a teenager... without his voice, they're just boyz... ❤ ya still Mike
I use to love I mean absolutely love Boys 2 Men until I seen Nathan at the mall when I was teenager he was so mean/rude when I asked him for a autograph that was a lesson taught for me with celebs
And Mike was handsome his voice ❤😍🔥
That does not surprise me about Nathan being rude and mean too. My one friend is related to Shawn and she told me that he think he is better then everyone in his family. When she need help and he would not help her
Wow. That's why I never even attempt to approach a celebrity. If they care rude I will instantly never watch anything with them in it...lol. I'd rather just not know.
Yes Nate is rude he was arguing with me in my inbox because I responded to a post about why I think Mike is not in the group. Nate literally inboxed and then blocked me after I told him hes proving my point by arguing with me.
There's a Vladtv interview with Dallas Austin saying how Boyz II Men was complete a-holes towards everyone including Babyface. Don't let the good guy images fool you..
Same exact thing happened to me when I saw Nathan in like 2006. Rude af
Eddie Levert looks WONDERFUL 💖💕💖🥰
Don't he though!?🤗
I think it was Shawn who was quoted saying they are the “most popular unpopular group” and now I know why!
Wow he really said that? Lol
Without “Bass” Mike, there’s no Boyz ll Men. What a shame to hear they haven’t been humble as they should have been. Be humble & grateful! Get MIKE back & start making sweet music again already!
Sad….Egoes will kill any group
How could they have forgotten that Babyface wrote "End of the Road" for them and that was a major hit on both their first album and "Boomerang" Soundtrack?!
Oh wow he wrote that too!
@@adwoaa7419 Yes, indeed!
Uhhh baby girl Babyface did not write End of the Road is a remake of the original from the Cooley High movie.
I didn’t know they had diva attitude’s . But you know what I believe it. So sad
Nathan was ready to throw hands with Dallas lmfaooo. They were the oldest looking 20 somethings I've seen
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LOL
Y’all gotta chill because they’re here reading the comments 😩
@@rrg 🤓🤓😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Excellent content as always! Never knew they behaved like that!?? Thank you so much 💕
Regardless of what transpired within this phenomenal group. I am forever grateful for their music. It has helped me create some awesome memories, that the songs where a part of my teen years, back in the 90's. WOW !!!!
I feel they have NO empathy for Mike. Why he got to sell his soul to be back in the band to ensure they're good. His health is more important. The 3 guys are just lame. I'm rooting for Mike ❤🙏🏾 his been through it ❤🙏🏾 ❤🙏🏾
yup, if Mike isn't in the group, I won't be buying a ticket to see them...somethings missing and it's Mike....
@@JahleeyahKalonji And your so right. That's when they started to rub out when Mike left. And I agree if Mikes back I'm all the way in . Because he is and always will be the bass and back bone of Boyz 2 Men. Period ❤
I’m cheering for Mike too! The other guys need to come down off the high horse and get over themselves and let Mike back in the group.
@@kandikane923 I’m not sure Mike want to be back in the group. That’s a lost cause at this point.
Alll these 90 groups are~LEGENDS~
They sure are..it upsets me they don't get the recognition they deserve. After all the hard work these 90's singers/groups have put in.
Facts
I was SOOOOO in love with Mike. Ironically, I ended up getting diagnosed with MS shortly before he did. MS is no joke, and many ppl don't understand the real toll it takes on your body and mind. I have had to retire from my career because of it. I feel his pain. OAN, it amazes me that Nate tries to act like Dallas Austin is lying about how horrible they were! And now, Kandi has said the same. When I was in college, they came for a concert, and fans couldn't wait to see the show. The show was lackluster, and for the ppl who had backstage passes, they were treated like we were beneath them. I mean, HORRIBLE, arrogant, nasty! All except for Shawn. Mike wasn't as bad. But that WANYA...OMG--horrible person, and Nate wasn't far behind. It was so bad that ppl were throwing their CDs and cassettes in the trash on campus. This was mid 90s LOL.
wow after watching this I don’t know if I could listen to their music anymore. Sorry to hear about your MS condition. I think Mike was brave to finally tell the world he has MS. It was cruel of his ex wife to cut off his relationship to their kids tho. That’s messed up
@@sarabennett6295 thank you so much. I agree. I hope they can mend the father/children relationship. Life is short. May they all find peace and healing.
So sorry to hear of your diagnosis. I have fibromyalgia and had to give up my nursing career because of it. So I understand the devastation illnesses like these cause physically and emotionally. Positive vibes and wishes for better days❣
I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2012 and I literally can’t walk sometimes. NOBODY understands unless they have lived with it!
@@courtneygooden9609 Exactly. I'm sorry for what you're going through. I truly feel your pain. It's hard to commit to 100% when your days are so unpredictable. As you said, some days, we can't feel our arms, legs, feet...can't walk. Wishing you health and healing.
Please be advised, just if anyone didn't know, the masterminds behind The Boyz 2Men Volume Two album, were SuperProducers TIM KELLY and BOB ROBINSON. The duo of Tim&Bob, whom was given the major task by Dallas Austin to produce that sophomore album, which became their most highlighted award winning album.
I never knew that they were that disrespectful that it didn't stop them from being the best RnB group of the 90s
Out of all the boys, Mike was always my favorite bass singer. I'll give you that, but overall, I do hope that Boys2Men will keep staying together throughout anything else. In my eyes, they always had a type of brotherhood together. Stay strong boys, and every one else too. Stay strong. We are in this thing together, and the sad part about having ME is that it's both unpredictable and there is no cure for it yet. I know because both me and my mom have it as well. Stay Strong. 🙏
I’m early!!! Yassss I’ve been hearing to many stories about them being A holes!
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Why people look to celebrities for gratification I’ll never understand.
@@edieselentertainment I know you not talking to me. Lol who’s looking for that?
I will always say young brothers and sisters cannot handle $$$$!! Period. I am a huge Babyface and Dallas fan. Man those are supposed to be our elders and gate keepers how can you be disrespectful to them?? Sigh
Nathan said it was all lies so...who knows lol
Well Dallas is not their elder.
I don't care what color, race you are almost no youngsters gonna handle money and fame the right way.
Gatekeepers, is not a good thing.
@@chickenfkeryay I will have to agree with that as well
that part in the Jackson 5 movie where Boyz II Men sing is one of my favorite parts 😍 I hate that Mikes not in the group anymore though. they sound perfect together ❤
Soooooo that scene from the movie was a reflection.
You mean New Edition - right?
@@HardCold-Alquan No, I dont.
I went to their concert before the pandemic and they were really great! But it was very different to not hear Mike do the bass in some of their earlier hits.
Honestly, sonically they never sound the same after Mike gone.
I wish he had solo parts in BoyzIIMen
They should still be producing their special kind of music! Loved this group!!🎶🎵🎼🎤🎧🎙
Yes RRG . Come thru with the Boyz II Men drama
Y’all are the queens of gif context 😂😂 that chilli gif while addressing Dallas is classic lol
LOL thank you!
Okay!! i thought I was the only one who caught that!!
so perfect!
@@mikelowry2865 lol nope , they’re so petty I love it 🤣🤣 done user Dallas baby mama on the shade lol
@@KishBish right I look forward to the gifs as much as the story at this point lol
Chronic health problems like MS are EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to live with. Once the systems show, your life is not the same in Any capacity. Healthy people don't understand... they needed to be more empathetic to Mike's situation.
Hard to do that when the person isn't being honest with what's going on with them.
They still have great voices. But they dont have that same sound without Mike, if you listen to their early stuff, Mike's baritone voice had its importance. Especially when theyd sing acapella.
Girl I was just listening to Boyz II Men yesterday and was wondering what happened to the fourth member. And here you come with the video lol
We're always on time 😉
Yall do a great job researching, and I like how yall don't exaggerate details. Also I like the unusual celebrities yall pick to do stories on!
Thank you! ❤️❤️
Good luck Mike. You guys made great music. Better days and better music! Always reminds me of a better time and place than where we are all in now. Peace and love brothers. Good luck to all you guys.
Hey! Glad this came on my feed on YT! I hope everything works out for Mike’s relationship with his children. Thank you for sharing this information with, I never really knew what happened with Boyz to Men. 🙂
I was blessed enough to meet and hang out with Mike out here in LA and hes one of the most down to earth celebrities I have ever dealt with back in my promoting days, I was calling him Mr. Mccary and he told me to just call him Mike. I hope hes doing great and it would he great to run into him again.
Who's here after Kandi Burress talking about how difficult Boyz II Men were to work with?
Link?
Is that true are they really difficult to work with.
Um.....has she ever heard of the OTHER 3 members of Xscape? Which is primarily in my opinion why they broke up.
@@larrymarshall8900 Dallas Austin even said it.
@@joshuamcdowell9745 facts tho
I want to see more of this interview with Kandi😍😍😍.. Xcape has to be on yall list!!! THANK❤YALL FOR YOUR VIDEOS..
The interview is saved on @eddielevertsr Instagram ❤️ and you're welcome!
50 candles will always be my song!🤗💕
They wouldn't be shit without that,"Injection fellas".
LOL
Rite!!!! 😂😂😂
Thank You for the great video! There has NOT been a time when I watched one of your video’s that’s been nothing but...great!
Than You for all the time you put into making your videos!
I had not followed boyz to men music as closely as some friends. I did like their music tho. It really sucks to hear that they had that “better than” attitude in the recording studio. It sucks when people come from singing in the boys bathroom to mega-stardom. And, Mayb forget where they have come from? Idk.
i enjoyed this,i love when the videos are longer
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Such a shame they couldn't work something out. Such a talented group of men. One of my favorite groups.
I met several Nathan's throughout my life....they were all jerks and hypocrites 😆
Yikes lol
You are not a very good logical decision maker.
Well that’s your fault 😂😂😂seems like you dating the same man
@@marilyn1984 I hate you , 🤣 lmao.
@@cadillacdeville5828 jkjk girl you gotta change 😂😂😂😂
Dallas Austin don't get enough acknowledgement. He was apart of the shift in production in the music sene coming into the early 90's, hip hop r&b and rap was changed. Give that man his flowers, TLC, ABC (another bad creation) ect. He was most definitely apart of the sound of the early to mid 90's alone with Teddy Ralley, Jermaine Dupre and Dr.dre.
And Monica!! Dallas Austin is a talent!