We opened up for B2M on their Australia tour back in 1994 and I must say the three were very arrogant no hello the entire tour except MM he was a true gentlemen always go out of his way to say hello, I have a video of him where he came into our change room and gave a us all advice and he even prayed for us before we took the stage man that really fired us up!! Bless you MM and I hope you get your money they owed you...
Mike was always cool even when I would see him in Logan. I don’t know what really happened far as Mike but the 3 would always speak negatively about Mike’s illnesses
That's good to hear about him. Arrogance is so disgusting. I've always believed that arrogance comes from shortcomings people aren't willing to deal with. I'm sorry all of your experience wasn't great.
Chronic health problems can sap your motivation. And if you’ve never had any major health issues, it’s difficult to relate to someone who is suffering with it.
MICHAEL WILL ALWAYS BE THE GLUE TO BOYZ II MEN!! I understand your pain. I live with 3 chronic illnesses and people will never understand your health issues. Continue to stay prayed up & may God send many blessings.❤
I have MS and no one can walk in our shoes. It is a very humbling disease. People are often ignorant and say you don't look sick not knowing the physical limitations and emotional struggles we have because of our physical constraints.🙏🏽🙏🏽
Everyone says that they’re very negative and everyone can’t be lying. Their character has apparently always sucked before they blew up. Money simply magnifies the already horrible character people have.
Maybe it was how Mike from NE played them and they might have thought to be this way instead of letting anyone ever get away with doing it to them again it's just a thought being that I have heard the same stories. If you remember when he was on Iyanla he said himself he didn't tell them and they thought he was missing shows to be home with his family which isn't bad but being in their profession to make money the had to tour and be on the road
Being Called Negative Translates as They Weren’t Allowing anyone to Control Them and Fought to Use their own Creative Abilities! Yes men are viewed as, and Usually Said to be Charming!
Did y'all not hear how they were, they even left a bad taste in Babyface's mouth where he didn't want to work with them again. Then the song he produced for them became a major hit. And Wanye is something else.
@@LetsTalkAboutIt-i9hbabyface produced So many MORE songs for them after “I’ll make love to you” were they/ are they arrogant? Yeah probably, a lot of celebrities have super egos
Mike is and always will be a Boyz to Men member. We need our old school groups to squash any beef and or conflict and grow to move forward with the great mucis we once loved. They may be our only hope for real music today.
Kandi was asked a few years ago about the who was the worst she had worked with and she named Boys II Men. She relayed her story in a way that wasnt crazy, but just honest. Then Wayna responded in another interview in a way that was disrepectful. It was a perfect example of what people have been saying about them. The funny part is, he made sure to try and tear down Kandi's talant and her career, like she is a hasbeen or just a reality star. Meanwhile, BIIM are having to cancel shows at smaller venues and Kandi just got off a successful tour and she is producing broadway plays.
When she wins a Grammy, and has her most played songs in Billboard history (more than 3 songs) at a time when the internet didn't exist, then she can try to talk about Boyz II Men. Definitely the best of all time.
@@tiagoleonardobraga7188You must be living under a rock cos Kandi Burruss has a Grammy and producing plays on Broadway, has a chain of restaurants, amongst other many accolades. Nice try!😅
@@tiagoleonardobraga7188Kandi is also a very talented songwriter and singer. She’s written hit songs for people like Beyonce, TLC, Pink, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake, Alicia Keys, Xscape, Mariah Carey, Ariana Grande and many others. Plus her networth is over $30 million and counting plus other businesses too. Show respect where it’s due and quit talking tosh!🙄
I have 2 brothers with MS. It is no joke and there is no substitute for the pain and suffering. I’m sure none of the members of the group knew or dealt with any one who’s Had MS so I’m sure they were ignorant to the fact.Remember the situation with TLC when T-Boz suffered with sickle-cell anemia? That’s another body deteriorating disease that cause immense pain and suffering. Her band members were sensitive to her issue. All in all, I pray they work it out and do what they do best. Make the greatest music. Age has a way of correcting people and their toxic ways.
I remember playing the cd with “on bended knee” and recording that song onto a cassette tape and gave it to my gf as an apology. That cd was huge among young teens all across America. That was a time in my life I wish I could go back to as an 11-12-13 year old with no worries in life other than just wanting to grow up faster and now I find myself wanting time to slow down or reverse so that I can actually enjoy that time instead of rushing it and worrying about stuff that didn’t even matter. Mike was always my favorite
If I was Mike, I wouldn't want to, they turned their backs on him at a crucial time in his life. He can forgive them but it would be foolish to do business with him.
@@LetsTalkAboutIt-i9h Mike said it himself that he didn't tell them nor his wife that he had MS. That's pretty much on him. If you don't know what's wrong with someone and they seem unmotivated what else can you do. That being said, their sound isn't the same without Mike.
I 🙏 PRAY that these Gentlemen can have positive coversations that will provoke Honesty & Fogiveness. Potentially, leading to a Group Reunion. Remeber B2M, that Your Faithful Fans LOVE ❤ Each of You Individually & Collectively. Yet, Your Gifts WORK BETTER as a WHOLE UNIT. ❤
Everybody couldn’t be lying on B2M. I believe everything Dallas said about them bc I’ve heard this too many times about them being arrogant. They must be some real butt holes.
Only Dallas & khandi said something bad about them Mariah carey loves working with them tim&Bob even said boyz to men where cool yea I heard the stories about babyface but babyface even still cool with them With any artists regardless who they are you gonna have e people that like you & that don't like you
As someone from a small group that watched Boyz II Men closely. I know how hard group chemistry can be. I hope these guys can work it out, it ain’t always easy.
Somebody please help me understand this so-called "Betrayal" Mike speaks of... Mike gets sick, tells no one even the group, decides to leave the group with no explanation, the group gets pissed but still tries to accommodate Mike, he does not reciprocate, gets on tv to talk shit about the group, we know the rest....
They thought he was being lazy and didn't want it nomo granted after he left the group they found out he was sick but they still proceeded to say these things about him then when he got his mind and health better and tried to come back they wanted to give him a contract because of his health he wasn't reliable and he wouldn't be a complete fourth member like he wasn't there from jump that's the betrayal
I never seen not one article on him talking negatively on the group, but the other three their attitude showed in them after he left. Before they didn’t come across like that before to me. My opinion. J/s He was sick!🐍’s
These guys came down with what I like to call David Rufin/Bobby Brown syndrome. Ninjas forgot what got them there and thought they individually were bigger than the group. 💯
@rasavastar308 The group got them where they were not Bobby, in fact his decision to make one good album is exactly what has kept NE out of the Rock N Roll hall of fame where they belong, and it was Ralph and Jonny who did all the heavy lifting. I'm glad to see them working together for the last couple of years and hopefully we'll get another NE project or two before it's all said and done.
I don't know what happened but I do know when Mike left the group it just didn't feel the same anymore. They probably would have had better success going solo.
Truth, they saw what happened to New Edition (Mike Bivins) and understood how to secure there brand. Why let someone write and produce what you can. Its business, but if the artist pushes back, they are difficult. BoyzIImen II was a solid album and they did it there self.
The classroom story is complete B.S. Nate and Marc both went to the high school for Creative and Performing Arts in Philly. A whole buncha people sang really well and sang ALL THE TIME, so nobody was throwing them outta classrooms for singing. Gimme a break! Wanya actually got kicked out of the school and had to finish at Overbrook High. Boyz II Men was just one of a whole lotta groups at the school with singers who were extremely talented They were blessed with an incredible career, and we are all super proud of them.
I’d be willing to work with M Bass.. I was in the studio when he was working with Keith Martin and voices of theory, but never got an opportunity to sing for him.
Mike was the ONLY straight-appearing member of the group, and the most handsome, so clearly they were jealous. After he left, I lost interest in the group, completely.
I’m CERTAIN It Was Wanya Voicing Most Of That. Nate Had An Interesting Demeanor About Him As Well. I Did A Japanese, Toyota Commercial With Them And Wanya DEFINITELY Wanted Folks To Know We Were Wherever We Were At Those Particular Times. Shawn Was A Little On The Quiet Side, And Was Pretty Cool. Mike Was My Dude!!! Whenever I Decided To Walk Around In Between Shoots, He Was Like, “Where You Goin, Bro??” I’d Just Say, Walking Around, And He’d Say, “Let Me Walk With You. I Want To Get Away From This Like You Do” We Were At A Place Called, Gerard College In Philly, And They Told Us That There Were Elementary & Junior High School Children There And For Us To Be Quiet. And Here Goes, Wanya Belting Out These Loud Ass Sounds, And Some Of The Children Started Looking Out The Windows. Someone FINALLY Announced That It Was Boyz II Men, And The Children Went Crazy, Naturally. THIS MUTHA’F’ER WAVED TO THEM AND SAID, “Man, They All Over Playin Themselves” I Wanted To Hook Ol Boiii, And His Bodyguard And Mike Saw Me, And Mike Grabbed Me, Giggled And Said, “Yo, Take A Walk With Me Real Quick” He Then Said, “Man, Thats How He Acts” I’m Like, THEY ARE KIDS, FAM!!!! My Bad For The Rant..It’s My Way Of Co-Signing Kn Their Sucka Shiiiit
My husband asks me about attending a B2M concert my answer is NO if Michael is not performing too!!! He was my favorite so if he not there, I’m not there periodttt!!! ❤
I’ve been around these guys, they are very arrogant and egotistical. I couldn’t understand why because as a heterosexual man, even I can understand the reason women gravitate towards certain types of men yet these dudes were not attractive, so I couldn’t comprehend the appeal besides the music. This is not me being jealous, this is me not liking people who don’t display humility.
Lies! Michael, himself, said he left the group and didn’t respond after he received his diagnosis. He refused to respond because he was self-loathing. Michael said he didn’t tell the group about his illness, the group found out through someone else. He didn’t tell his brothers, they found out from someone else, and everyone was in their feelings.
That was on him because he didn't tell them for years why he left the group he jst up and left no explanation or nothing so they cnt be there for u if they aint knw wht was going on with u medically..and at least they still paid u most would hav cut u out of da money period..Tht was jst miscommunication..They should be able to mend n get back together
Ain't too many guys today that can sing and speak deep. The last one to do that was Melvin Franklin of The Temptations. Barry White spoke deep, he didn't sing deep.
I hope he gets back into the group. It will help him with his depression I would think. But what do I know 🤷🏾♂️. Can't imagine what MS does to you. Still my favorite groups
I miss mike he completes the group for me both are wrong on two fronts mike should have told them and they shouldn't have handle the situation that way i detect them still holding back some truth on the matters at hand i wish they would reunite still being alone isn't easy seems to me wife gone kids gone is very bad diagnosis for suicide trust i live alone i know how it feels when everything is against u stay strong mike 😃👍👊🏿🇯🇲🙏🏼
Absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be brothers. This is a life altering condition, mentally and of course physically. Shameful behaviour. I hope they can fix this sad situation.
Nobody knows how and what MS does to you mentally and physically unless you've been through it. It probably was really hard for Mike being young dealing with this altering disease that affected his mind, body, and soul. So there's always 3 sides to a story.
@ he eventually made it public and let his so called brothers know In 2016. And the support was nonexistent. When you are truly brothers you should be there through the good and the bad. Period. This is a life changing condition and it would’ve been extremely difficult to even come to terms with this himself. But at the least you want the love and support of your brothers.
@@Eshaper in 2016 he both revealed to everyone for the first time that he had MS and said that there was no support. Before this moment, the guys didn't know that he had MS, so of course there was no support because he just up and left without revealing anything. Of course it's a life changing condition thats hard to deal with but he literally said that he didn't tell the guys that he had it and this was the first time that they knew that he had it.
Fortunately i got to see them in concert. Unfortunately,i saw them in concert in NZ but minus Michael. Bonus,K-Ci & Jojo were the opening act. Non bonus,B2M still sounded madd,but a true fan will know its not the same without the 4! Still blessed to have seen them Still proud to have been around these songs.
His health, ego and pride I’m sure played a role in not being as motivated as the other guys. That had to have weigh heavily on his shoulders. To have the world in his hands and being told by doctor, he could lose it all just by walking would be a heavy burden for anyone to bear and he chose to keep it to himself. Boyz II Men is a great group without him, but they are an amazing group with him and I hope that they’re able to put everything aside and give us all what we want which is the original band members back together again making the great music that we all know and love. This will be exciting to see if it came together in 2025.
Sounds like the problem was a Michael McCary problem, didn't tell the guys or his wife what was wrong with him, stopped answering their phone calls, he's definitely the one who betrayed everyone, then tried to play the victim, just sad!
Yeah, I'm still confused on this one. Even though I wasn't a big fan of their music ,I'll give them a little grace if they weren't aware of Mike's medical issues at the time.
@@magadexaba6108my EXACT RESPONSE… 😔MS is a rough disease…should he have told them YES… but sometimes Pride & embarrassment… get in the way!!! Once they knew…. where was the love/support ??? Sad😒
So it should be 4, this group needed Micheal’s base vocals, also Micheal was the one that kept on at Micheal Bivins for a shot at the spotlight for the 4 of them. I hope they’ve sorted their crap cause they are explosive together!!
I don’t believe that the contract offers in the R&B genre are lucrative enough to support groups. When you have between 3 - 5 grown people with families all needing to eat off of a check that looks like a solo act’s check? Conflict will ensue….
@@tiffanyhofer7554 This is the truth. Music is different now because of music being consumed digital along with streaming apps. Compensation is way different for the artists now. Vocal groups are becoming a thing of the past. Now bands can still exist because people who play instruments can still make a living outside of album sales, streaming, and touring.
Well, I can definitely understand their frustration with Mike repeatedly missing rehearsals & performances & wanting him to sign a contract that would hold him to his word to get back in the group!!!
@@QueenAnitaSoul1 I just gave my opinion IF they are speaking facts, but if they aren’t, then Mike made the correct decision to BOUNCE! However, I’ve been in the Music Industry since 1995 & I’ve definitely heard a few negative stories about Boyz ll Men!!!
@@michaelallen8112 Agreed!!! Once a recording artist’s record sales fall off it’s very difficult to regain that momentum if 2 years or more go by. I was the Guitarist for the 90’s R&B Male Group “Hi-Five” in 2022 & we opened up for “Boyz ll Men” & when I met them backstage they seemed cool!!! They definitely rocked their set & so did WE!!!🙏🏽🙌🏽💪🏽😂 “Hi-Five Still Got it by Music Lover on 8/9/22 I saw them in California with their live band and Boyz II Men. When I tell you the show was great I mean it. The vocals were so good! Not to mention the great dancing and the love band. They put on a great show can’t wait to see them again.”
@@7777Lace HI Five hard to not envision them with Lead Member Thompson that pass. Glad u doin well & work with our fave groups growing up. What's next for u ?? Also, u need link up with Architect out the Bay, when u get a chance
I preferred their sound with mike period!
I AGREE. It's NOT the same sound without MIKE!
His voice 🥰
FACTS!!!
I CONCUR!!!
We opened up for B2M on their Australia tour back in 1994 and I must say the three were very arrogant no hello the entire tour except MM he was a true gentlemen always go out of his way to say hello, I have a video of him where he came into our change room and gave a us all advice and he even prayed for us before we took the stage man that really fired us up!!
Bless you MM and I hope you get your money they owed you...
Mike was always cool even when I would see him in Logan. I don’t know what really happened far as Mike but the 3 would always speak negatively about Mike’s illnesses
That's good to hear about him. Arrogance is so disgusting. I've always believed that arrogance comes from shortcomings people aren't willing to deal with. I'm sorry all of your experience wasn't great.
Michael was my favorite one in the group!❤
Chronic health problems can sap your motivation. And if you’ve never had any major health issues, it’s difficult to relate to someone who is suffering with it.
God help us, we pray🙏
Mike should’ve been honest about his condition with his band mates and wife. This tension could’ve been avoided.
@@djtopaz stop telling people what they “should” do. Your desperate need to control others has already ruined your relationships. Do better.
@@CaiusMartius-gf8 ok
MICHAEL WILL ALWAYS BE THE GLUE TO BOYZ II MEN!! I understand your pain. I live with 3 chronic illnesses and people will never understand your health issues. Continue to stay prayed up & may God send many blessings.❤
They will never be the same without him
I totally agree ❤
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Disagree. They are still 🔥. He wasn’t really a factor.
Thank you!!! They are unbalanced without him.
Their sound is not complete without Mike's voice
Dallas Austin is a huge underrated producer!!
He’s legendary
Yes he is legendary and Chili’s son’s father. Just found that out.
Genuine dude, good family man.
Having multiple sclerosis will definitely change your life because nobody understands us... Enjoyed watching you cover my fav group🥰
That's so true, unfortunately
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They were good. 👍🏾
I have MS and no one can walk in our shoes. It is a very humbling disease. People are often ignorant and say you don't look sick not knowing the physical limitations and emotional struggles we have because of our physical constraints.🙏🏽🙏🏽
Everyone says that they’re very negative and everyone can’t be lying. Their character has apparently always sucked before they blew up. Money simply magnifies the already horrible character people have.
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Maybe it was how Mike from NE played them and they might have thought to be this way instead of letting anyone ever get away with doing it to them again it's just a thought being that I have heard the same stories. If you remember when he was on Iyanla he said himself he didn't tell them and they thought he was missing shows to be home with his family which isn't bad but being in their profession to make money the had to tour and be on the road
Being Called Negative Translates as They Weren’t Allowing anyone to Control Them and Fought to Use their own Creative Abilities! Yes men are viewed as, and Usually Said to be Charming!
Did y'all not hear how they were, they even left a bad taste in Babyface's mouth where he didn't want to work with them again. Then the song he produced for them became a major hit. And Wanye is something else.
@@LetsTalkAboutIt-i9hbabyface produced So many MORE songs for them after “I’ll make love to you” were they/ are they arrogant? Yeah probably, a lot of celebrities have super egos
One person said friendship, one called the others brothers. Deep
Correction: Boyz II Men was formed in the late-80s and released their debut single and album in 1991...not 1995.
noticed that right away also..like HUH
@@Dizzle0919 tbh an incorrect fact like always automatically invalidates the video
@@dnd_twozee3409 I suspect that a lot of this stuff is A.I.-generated.
Right!
Yeah, belbivdevoe , at their peak, I think pretty much mentored them
Mike is and always will be a Boyz to Men member. We need our old school groups to squash any beef and or conflict and grow to move forward with the great mucis we once loved. They may be our only hope for real music today.
I will always love Big Mike ❤ the group isn’t the same without him
Make Male Groups Great Again 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 ( Without Egos )
Kandi was asked a few years ago about the who was the worst she had worked with and she named Boys II Men. She relayed her story in a way that wasnt crazy, but just honest. Then Wayna responded in another interview in a way that was disrepectful. It was a perfect example of what people have been saying about them. The funny part is, he made sure to try and tear down Kandi's talant and her career, like she is a hasbeen or just a reality star. Meanwhile, BIIM are having to cancel shows at smaller venues and Kandi just got off a successful tour and she is producing broadway plays.
The nerve of them the blatant disrespect
When she wins a Grammy, and has her most played songs in Billboard history (more than 3 songs) at a time when the internet didn't exist, then she can try to talk about Boyz II Men. Definitely the best of all time.
@@tiagoleonardobraga7188You must be living under a rock cos Kandi Burruss has a Grammy and producing plays on Broadway, has a chain of restaurants, amongst other many accolades. Nice try!😅
@@tiagoleonardobraga7188Kandi is also a very talented songwriter and singer. She’s written hit songs for people like Beyonce, TLC, Pink, Ed Sheeran, Justin Timberlake, Alicia Keys, Xscape, Mariah Carey, Ariana Grande and many others. Plus her networth is over $30 million and counting plus other businesses too. Show respect where it’s due and quit talking tosh!🙄
SO HE WAS SICK AND IF YOU SUFFERED WITH THAT TYPE OF PAIN. "MS" YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED. UNDERSTANDING.. PRAYING 🙏🏿
PREACH ❤❤
He didn’t come forward about it until later
Clearly said he didn't tell them why he left.
I really hope he comes back. Their sound hasn't been the same without him.
Betrayal is a Philly music community tradition.
Yes it is and I'm from Philly they will betray each other quicker than the wind blows
Ooooh word?!!
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They need mike for that boys to men sound.
I have 2 brothers with MS. It is no joke and there is no substitute for the pain and suffering. I’m sure none of the members of the group knew or dealt with any one who’s
Had MS so I’m sure they were ignorant to the fact.Remember the situation with TLC when T-Boz suffered with sickle-cell anemia? That’s another body deteriorating disease that cause immense pain and suffering. Her band members were sensitive to her issue. All in all, I pray they work it out and do what they do best. Make the greatest music. Age has a way of correcting people and their toxic ways.
Dallas Austin is not the only artist/writer to say the exact same thing about BIIM
Kandi said the same thing
Mike was the glue that stuck with the business!
I remember playing the cd with “on bended knee” and recording that song onto a cassette tape and gave it to my gf as an apology. That cd was huge among young teens all across America. That was a time in my life I wish I could go back to as an 11-12-13 year old with no worries in life other than just wanting to grow up faster and now I find myself wanting time to slow down or reverse so that I can actually enjoy that time instead of rushing it and worrying about stuff that didn’t even matter. Mike was always my favorite
Mike isn’t only a talented singer and nice looking man, but he was the most charismatic of the group
Yessss he was the MOST HANDSOME one in the group!!!❤
They were kids in the 90’s so having egos makes sense
❤ Never break something that working ❤
They needed Mike because he was the only normal looking dude 😂
Straight Facts. Always said Mike was the only normal looking one😂😂😂😂😂😂
Right, Shawn looked like Grover from Sesame Street, Nate looked like Mushmouth from fat Albert and Wanyan looked like Mr Potato Head
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would and will not see them in concert if Mike isn't there. If New Edition can forgive Bobby Brown for all of his shenanigans, then why can't they.
If I was Mike, I wouldn't want to, they turned their backs on him at a crucial time in his life. He can forgive them but it would be foolish to do business with him.
@@LetsTalkAboutIt-i9h Mike said it himself that he didn't tell them nor his wife that he had MS. That's pretty much on him. If you don't know what's wrong with someone and they seem unmotivated what else can you do. That being said, their sound isn't the same without Mike.
....and SaltNPepa with Spinderella
Still if he was like that they could of tried harder he was a brother sir !!!@kingstonellington817
This. Ill skip the Sistahs until Spin gets some respect@chookz
I 🙏 PRAY that these Gentlemen can have positive coversations that will provoke Honesty & Fogiveness. Potentially, leading to a Group Reunion. Remeber B2M, that Your Faithful Fans LOVE ❤ Each of You Individually & Collectively. Yet, Your Gifts WORK BETTER as a WHOLE UNIT. ❤
This was perfectly said.
The music hasn't been as good since he left the group
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That's because Babyface no longer was writing for them. Boyz II Men was a pure vehicle for Babyface hits!!!
Everybody couldn’t be lying on B2M. I believe everything Dallas said about them bc I’ve heard this too many times about them being arrogant. They must be some real butt holes.
They come off like the type of dudes most level headed women wouldn’t go for because they can’t fight or fuck.
Only Dallas & khandi said something bad about them
Mariah carey loves working with them tim&Bob even said boyz to men where cool yea I heard the stories about babyface but babyface even still cool with them
With any artists regardless who they are you gonna have e people that like you & that don't like you
Money and success make you who you really are
I hope he returns I miss mike
Mike passed away some years ago
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Yo, what are you talking about??? And where did you get that info from? Michael McCary is STILL HERE!!! SMDH!🤨
no he did not he's alive what are you talking about
Spreading lies @bighdagreat2260
@@7777Lace🤔🤔
As someone from a small group that watched Boyz II Men closely. I know how hard group chemistry can be.
I hope these guys can work it out, it ain’t always easy.
The way it’s worded here makes it sound like Nate handed out diss tweets back in ‘94. 😂
I just commented this. Too many anomalies
Yeah, they are amazingly talented. But I've heard from various sources that they are nightmare to work with.
They kind of disrespected the ladies of TLC back in the day.
@@maxday1000 Yup! And Kandi Buress, also.
@@maxday1000what?! Wow I did not know that! 😮
They gave Baby Face a hard time when he was working with them
Yup mean to xscape@platinumstar8
Somebody please help me understand this so-called "Betrayal" Mike speaks of...
Mike gets sick, tells no one even the group, decides to leave the group with no explanation, the group gets pissed but still tries to accommodate Mike, he does not reciprocate, gets on tv to talk shit about the group, we know the rest....
And they actually still paid him when he couldn't make shows while they were touring before he left.........
They thought he was being lazy and didn't want it nomo granted after he left the group they found out he was sick but they still proceeded to say these things about him then when he got his mind and health better and tried to come back they wanted to give him a contract because of his health he wasn't reliable and he wouldn't be a complete fourth member like he wasn't there from jump that's the betrayal
@@briannamays314Very true.
I never seen not one article on him talking negatively on the group, but the other three their attitude showed in them after he left. Before they didn’t come across like that before to me. My opinion. J/s He was sick!🐍’s
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These guys came down with what I like to call David Rufin/Bobby Brown syndrome. Ninjas forgot what got them there and thought they individually were bigger than the group. 💯
Facts!!!
BOBBY WZ BIGGER THAN THE GROUP 🤷🏾♂️
@rasavastar308 The group got them where they were not Bobby, in fact his decision to make one good album is exactly what has kept NE out of the Rock N Roll hall of fame where they belong, and it was Ralph and Jonny who did all the heavy lifting. I'm glad to see them working together for the last couple of years and hopefully we'll get another NE project or two before it's all said and done.
@@rasavastar308came here to say this
Narrator: Get your facts correct. They emerged years before 1995.
I don't know what happened but I do know when Mike left the group it just didn't feel the same anymore. They probably would have had better success going solo.
I believe Dallas was telling the truth
Mike really should have been honest about his condition.
Why would he be honest when he felt like they wasn't trustworthy
@@michaelallen8112 If you're not honest, people are left to come to their own conclusions.
Truth, they saw what happened to New Edition (Mike Bivins) and understood how to secure there brand. Why let someone write and produce what you can. Its business, but if the artist pushes back, they are difficult. BoyzIImen II was a solid album and they did it there self.
I love them altogether but they are just as good with 3. Attended a show in Biloxi. Outstanding
They have been out since 1990 I love in Philly in the early 90's they were poppin
'91
The classroom story is complete B.S. Nate and Marc both went to the high school for Creative and Performing Arts in Philly. A whole buncha people sang really well and sang ALL THE TIME, so nobody was throwing them outta classrooms for singing. Gimme a break! Wanya actually got kicked out of the school and had to finish at Overbrook High. Boyz II Men was just one of a whole lotta groups at the school with singers who were extremely talented They were blessed with an incredible career, and we are all super proud of them.
Facts ! my cousin went to school with them also
Still always my favorite music group 😁
Wanya, Shawn & Nathan: “We want you back in the group”
Michael: “Baby, I’m sorry”
I’d be willing to work with M Bass.. I was in the studio when he was working with Keith Martin and voices of theory, but never got an opportunity to sing for him.
Love that song Say It
Kandi said, they did her Wrong.
Mike was the ONLY straight-appearing member of the group, and the most handsome, so clearly they were jealous. After he left, I lost interest in the group, completely.
Ill make love to you was NOT on Cooley High album
So many anomalies in this story. I'm getting the impression that tweets were being sent in the 90s.
But how can you leave your partner for 13yrs who's in a serious health problem. Terrible human
I’m CERTAIN It Was Wanya Voicing Most Of That. Nate Had An Interesting Demeanor About Him As Well. I Did A Japanese, Toyota Commercial With Them And Wanya DEFINITELY Wanted Folks To Know We Were Wherever We Were At Those Particular Times. Shawn Was A Little On The Quiet Side, And Was Pretty Cool. Mike Was My Dude!!! Whenever I Decided To Walk Around In Between Shoots, He Was Like, “Where You Goin, Bro??” I’d Just Say, Walking Around, And He’d Say, “Let Me Walk With You. I Want To Get Away From This Like You Do” We Were At A Place Called, Gerard College In Philly, And They Told Us That There Were Elementary & Junior High School Children There And For Us To Be Quiet. And Here Goes, Wanya Belting Out These Loud Ass Sounds, And Some Of The Children Started Looking Out The Windows. Someone FINALLY Announced That It Was Boyz II Men, And The Children Went Crazy, Naturally. THIS MUTHA’F’ER WAVED TO THEM AND SAID, “Man, They All Over Playin Themselves” I Wanted To Hook Ol Boiii, And His Bodyguard And Mike Saw Me, And Mike Grabbed Me, Giggled And Said, “Yo, Take A Walk With Me Real Quick” He Then Said, “Man, Thats How He Acts” I’m Like, THEY ARE KIDS, FAM!!!! My Bad For The Rant..It’s My Way Of Co-Signing Kn Their Sucka Shiiiit
My husband asks me about attending a B2M concert my answer is NO if Michael is not performing too!!! He was my favorite so if he not there, I’m not there periodttt!!! ❤
I’ve been around these guys, they are very arrogant and egotistical. I couldn’t understand why because as a heterosexual man, even I can understand the reason women gravitate towards certain types of men yet these dudes were not attractive, so I couldn’t comprehend the appeal besides the music. This is not me being jealous, this is me not liking people who don’t display humility.
I share these exact sentiments. IMO Silk and Shai have better vocal ability and far more attractive members.
I don't know what happened between Boyz to men and my lil cuzn from Detroit Uncle Sam but they made some awesome music with my cuzn ❤❤❤
Oh yeah uncle sam album was dope
Lies! Michael, himself, said he left the group and didn’t respond after he received his diagnosis. He refused to respond because he was self-loathing. Michael said he didn’t tell the group about his illness, the group found out through someone else. He didn’t tell his brothers, they found out from someone else, and everyone was in their feelings.
Right now, there's on the Masked Singer.😂
That was on him because he didn't tell them for years why he left the group he jst up and left no explanation or nothing so they cnt be there for u if they aint knw wht was going on with u medically..and at least they still paid u most would hav cut u out of da money period..Tht was jst miscommunication..They should be able to mend n get back together
Bring back Mike, it's just not the same without him
Wow. They are my high school soundtrack
You can't blame the other guys for Michael, he did not tell them. Hell, he didn't tell his wife. All they knew was he was acting funny. 🧐
Deep tone brother he is. The rest of the brothers has that average skippy skippy tone. Love the deep tone voices
Ain't too many guys today that can sing and speak deep. The last one to do that was Melvin Franklin of The Temptations. Barry White spoke deep, he didn't sing deep.
NOBODY in B2M has "average" tone in ANY form...are u crazy?
@ If you say so🎼
They assholes but definitely not average "them Boyz got talent"
@STREAM2UJA LOL right!!! It's best the brutha just said he's being biased for liking the "deep" form of singing...😏
Very stupid video caption I'd say. Went through the whole video didn't say what Mike was right about.
You got the song order wrong
Bro if you didn’t tell them what was going on what else would you expect?
There is a reason they are now a nostalgic act!
NOW EVERYBODY HATING ON BOYS TO MEN. EVERY GROUP GOES THROUGH PROBLEMS
They think they better than mike because he sings bass, three🤡🤡🤡
I hope he gets back into the group. It will help him with his depression I would think. But what do I know 🤷🏾♂️. Can't imagine what MS does to you. Still my favorite groups
If they don't KNOW what is wrong. How could they handle it RIGHT!?
I’ve heard members from the group talk about his Multiple Sclerosis back when he first left the group
I miss mike he completes the group for me both are wrong on two fronts mike should have told them and they shouldn't have handle the situation that way i detect them still holding back some truth on the matters at hand i wish they would reunite still being alone isn't easy seems to me wife gone kids gone is very bad diagnosis for suicide trust i live alone i know how it feels when everything is against u stay strong mike 😃👍👊🏿🇯🇲🙏🏼
You stay stay strong as well my love
Absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be brothers. This is a life altering condition, mentally and of course physically. Shameful behaviour. I hope they can fix this sad situation.
How is it disgusting when he didn't tell them that he had the condition?
Nobody knows how and what MS does to you mentally and physically unless you've been through it. It probably was really hard for Mike being young dealing with this altering disease that affected his mind, body, and soul. So there's always 3 sides to a story.
@ he eventually made it public and let his so called brothers know In 2016. And the support was nonexistent. When you are truly brothers you should be there through the good and the bad. Period. This is a life changing condition and it would’ve been extremely difficult to even come to terms with this himself. But at the least you want the love and support of your brothers.
@ I know!
@@Eshaper in 2016 he both revealed to everyone for the first time that he had MS and said that there was no support. Before this moment, the guys didn't know that he had MS, so of course there was no support because he just up and left without revealing anything. Of course it's a life changing condition thats hard to deal with but he literally said that he didn't tell the guys that he had it and this was the first time that they knew that he had it.
Mike must’ve thought he was David Ruffin 😂
I hope so 🙏🏾 they made good music.😊
Glad they mad up❤🎉
NATE WAS THE ARROGANT ONE
All 3 are arrogant, but I agree that Nate Morris is the biggest A hole of the group.
Fortunately i got to see them in concert.
Unfortunately,i saw them in concert in NZ but minus Michael.
Bonus,K-Ci & Jojo were the opening act.
Non bonus,B2M still sounded madd,but a true fan will know its not the same without the 4!
Still blessed to have seen them
Still proud to have been around these songs.
To not be friends no one is ashamed
That's Nasty Work
His ego surpassed his ability to be honest!!
His health, ego and pride I’m sure played a role in not being as motivated as the other guys. That had to have weigh heavily on his shoulders. To have the world in his hands and being told by doctor, he could lose it all just by walking would be a heavy burden for anyone to bear and he chose to keep it to himself. Boyz II Men is a great group without him, but they are an amazing group with him and I hope that they’re able to put everything aside and give us all what we want which is the original band members back together again making the great music that we all know and love. This will be exciting to see if it came together in 2025.
Sounds like the problem was a Michael McCary problem, didn't tell the guys or his wife what was wrong with him, stopped answering their phone calls, he's definitely the one who betrayed everyone, then tried to play the victim, just sad!
Love was very strong with couples back in those days
SOO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT A BLACK WOMAN LEAVING HER HUSBAND WHEN HE NEEDS HER. AND THEY GET MAD WHEN WE GO OVERSEAS.
Boyz 2 Men should make a few gospel albums. That song they did for "The Prince of Egypt" was a good start.
Yeah, I'm still confused on this one. Even though I wasn't a big fan of their music ,I'll give them a little grace if they weren't aware of Mike's medical issues at the time.
What happened when they got aware?
@@magadexaba6108my EXACT RESPONSE… 😔MS is a rough disease…should he have told them YES… but sometimes Pride & embarrassment… get in the way!!! Once they knew…. where was the love/support ??? Sad😒
So it should be 4, this group needed Micheal’s base vocals, also Micheal was the one that kept on at Micheal Bivins for a shot at the spotlight for the 4 of them. I hope they’ve sorted their crap cause they are explosive together!!
I'm not ready to hear this....
I stopped listening to them, after Mike left. Mike was/is my favorite!!
Tim Kelley And Bob Robinson (Tim and Bob) did most of II if I’m not mistaken.
WAIT!!!! TWITTER WASNT AROUND BACK THEN TO MAKE TWEETS UNLESS YOU'RE SAYING HE MADE THE TWEETS AFTER THE VLAD INTERVIEW
There are no more male r&b groups or female r&b groups. R&b isn't what it used to be.
I don’t believe that the contract offers in the R&B genre are lucrative enough to support groups. When you have between 3 - 5 grown people with families all needing to eat off of a check that looks like a solo act’s check? Conflict will ensue….
@@tiffanyhofer7554 This is the truth. Music is different now because of music being consumed digital along with streaming apps. Compensation is way different for the artists now. Vocal groups are becoming a thing of the past. Now bands can still exist because people who play instruments can still make a living outside of album sales, streaming, and touring.
My 4 favorite songs were on bended knees and water runs dry,never,human
It started with Mark Nelson. Keep it real.
I have tromendous respect for these guys ie Boyz to Men
They were more than fine without Dallas Austin
Entire 90s?just the early to mid 90s
Well, I can definitely understand their frustration with Mike repeatedly missing rehearsals & performances & wanting him to sign a contract that would hold him to his word to get back in the group!!!
How do you know that's accurate ?
@@QueenAnitaSoul1
I just gave my opinion IF they are speaking facts, but if they aren’t, then Mike made the correct decision to BOUNCE! However, I’ve been in the Music Industry since 1995 & I’ve definitely heard a few negative stories about Boyz ll Men!!!
@@7777LaceWhat group we grew up on gonna be making a return soon
@@michaelallen8112
Agreed!!! Once a recording artist’s record sales fall off it’s very difficult to regain that momentum if 2 years or more go by.
I was the Guitarist for the 90’s R&B Male Group “Hi-Five” in 2022 & we opened up for “Boyz ll Men” & when I met them backstage they seemed cool!!! They definitely rocked their set & so did WE!!!🙏🏽🙌🏽💪🏽😂
“Hi-Five Still Got it
by Music Lover on 8/9/22
I saw them in California with their live band and Boyz II Men. When I tell you the show was great I mean it. The vocals were so good! Not to mention the great dancing and the love band. They put on a great show can’t wait to see them again.”
@@7777Lace HI Five hard to not envision them with Lead Member Thompson that pass. Glad u doin well & work with our fave groups growing up. What's next for u ?? Also, u need link up with Architect out the Bay, when u get a chance