A couple of small rules mistakes. First, when you bust in battle, you do not move your leader's strength to zero, only your battle strength. Second, the "increase strength" cards in the tea party phase (little swords) increase your leader's strength, not you battle strength. This is a great game and not nearly as complicated as people are making it seem in the comments. Once you start playing, it flows nicely.
I came here to say the same thing. Keep in mind she had a prototype so it's possible the rules changed from then to now but either way thanks for clarifying.
I also want to add, that after the madness token is blocked by a shield, it is only placed back into a bag (without any redraw). This is better, because you can play more safe if you want to :) I really like this update from rulebook v1.20 :)
The aesthetic of the game looks great, but these rules and setup seem real complicated. I’m sure it probably flows once you get used to it, but I fear introducing this to new people
I feel the same way. I'm all for learning a complicated game. I don't mind putting in the time to learn something like this, but introducing it to new people is a problem for me.
i don't even think it looks that complicated, i just think the gameplay isn't worth what complication it does have. I'd just rather play Quacks of Quedlinburg and get to it a lot quicker
cptawesome Quacks is sometimes criticized for not having interaction between players. A friend played it this weekend and said that you were invested in the other players’ battles because you can gamble on which of the other players will win battles you’re no involved in. He said it was smoother than it sounds when it’s e planned verbally.
Games looks fun and well produced. To get the nice version with the plastic discs, distinct meeples, & 3D printed character standees it costs $115 and you have two large boxes (you get both upgraded chips and cardboard chips) with $20 worth of shipping. Otherwise almost everything is cardboard and still costs $50. There is definitely a lot in the box but i have a hard time paying the high price tag for this particular game. I hope I don't regret passing on this one.
This game is a lot of fun, and they have changed the rules in post production since this video came out. The gameplay is much clearer now (still a little fiddly, but nowhere near what it was.)
This indeed - for some reason - seems overly complicated... And I say that while games like "On Mars", "Lisboa", "The Gallerist" or "Cerebria" and such are leading my top 10 list. I'm confused, but maybe, maybe that was the plan all along!? xD
Look I am all for complicated games but this game will leave you mad as a Hatter from what I'm seeing, also really looking forward you guys doing more villainess videos
Very good explanation! Clear voice, good speed, interesting intonation, nice cuts and video detail insertions. The game isn't my direction, but I will look some of your other videos, just for this good critics.
First off this game looks super complicated and being a beginner gamer myself I'm not too sure if I could get other people to play with me that won't get bored and/or frustrated trying to figure out the game. Second of all I will get it anyway because I absolutely love Alice in Wonderland and the game looks gorgeous. Third her shirt, her shirt is adorable.
This game looks really good! Also, while complicated, I'm not turned off by the rules. I think that is because of the art quality and narrative context made by Skybound Games for the game itself. That said, one might say that the rules were designed to drive players to...madness?
Either I'm really stupid or this game seemed extreeeemely complicated because I understood none of it. I guess I'll wait until the gameplay video is uploaded!
Yeah, I think it's going to take more time to set up then to play it. I love the idea of this game but it would need to be much more bigger/dense for this many rules.
You spin the Wheel of Mayhem to go up the Ladder of Chance. You go past the Mud Hut, through the Rainbow Ring to get to the Golden Monkey, you yank his tail and boom - you're in Paradise Pond!
The Quakalope video made it much easier to understand. The game has several things going on but individually they are all quite simple But just doesn't come across as that XD
In other words, this game is: Drafting + area control + deck building + additional rules to make it asymmetric Drafting - you choose what you want to do from the available options Area Control - you score points primarily from having the most power in an area Deck building - you want to upgrade your bag of chips with better chips as the game goes by Asymmetric - each character plays slightly different than the others
I'm new to board games and looking to pick up my second one. This game is absolutely beautiful but holy crap, the rules. Rules seem so complicated. Don't know how I'm going to try and get friends to join me on this if I'm already lost. I'll just have to wait and see
Yes this game looks like it is a lot. To be honest it is easy to play and just a ton of options for you to have when playing. Now it does take quite a bit of time to play especially with first time players. But if you like a hefty game and don't mind 2hrs of game play, then this game is for you.
Reading it over now. I think you just reset battle strength to 0. However the animation shows the leader strength being reset to 0. 😅 love your videos ❤
This may be a silly question but as it’s been two years since this video and I’ve only recently had my kickstarter copy arrive.. are the rules still the same? 😅🤔
I look forward to the GtG of this one. I watched the Skybound Games stream & couldn't quite follow it, but an edited playthrough should sort that out. Also, what's Oshi's favourite cocktail I wonder?
Quick question for anyone that might know: Is LA By Night no longer a part of G&S? I saw them streaming with a S4E2 title on the World of Darkness Twitch channel. I couldn't track down any references to a season 4, so I'm curious to what this show's standing is.
I think they've split off to World Of Darkness everywhere now (there's a YT channel of the same name) but I'm not sure whether new episodes will still appear here too.
Hi Becca, i have two questions about rules: 1) you set the leader strenght at 0 (on the sword space)... but the rulebook says to set it on the '1' space, and this is visible also on the image at page. 4 (E); 2) you say that if a player have no more supporters in a battle region, they are busted... but the rulebook says 'if you have no UNITS left...", so this includes also leader and wonderlandians; 3) you say that if you are busted, the leader strenght fall to 0... but in the rulebook this one is not mentioned. Maybe is there an updated rulebook different than the printed one included in the box? Thank you!
A good overview, but in a game like this the devil is in the details. It would be great if you could do a more detailed dive into faction leader upgrades and what the cards do in detail.
This looks like an over-complicated and over-produced mess with a pasted on theme. Seems like little to no strategy with random luck draws and die rolls.
Well, go watch ManVsMeeple if this is unclear. It was for me, and I can see that I'm not alone. Link: th-cam.com/video/19A1hI_02SI/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_title
Today I'm leaving feedback of my personal experience. It's not meant to be disrespectful in any way, these are just my personal experience and thoughts. I think it's a shame that while your content is high quality as far as hosting, set and filming/editing goes, I always end up going to other sources for "how to play" videos. While most of them aren't nearly as nice to look at, a game as complex as this should be introduced more thoroughly. Take some time to really show off the material, for example. Make little interludes with suggestions for token storing, or comments about the characters and such. The density of information thrown at me always makes me turn away. There are already a number of channels out there doing the "super quick rules" thing. In this setup I'd prefer a more thorough look at the game, an actual introduction. This video has my head spinning half way in and now I'm once again off to find an alternative that I will find easier to watch and grasp.
What’s happened to this channel? There used to be so many updates with games and live action RPG... now just one or 2 updates a week? Kinda disappointed. I viewed this channel as the best geek and gaming channel on TH-cam. I can’t say that anymore. :(
A couple of small rules mistakes. First, when you bust in battle, you do not move your leader's strength to zero, only your battle strength. Second, the "increase strength" cards in the tea party phase (little swords) increase your leader's strength, not you battle strength.
This is a great game and not nearly as complicated as people are making it seem in the comments. Once you start playing, it flows nicely.
I came here to say the same thing. Keep in mind she had a prototype so it's possible the rules changed from then to now but either way thanks for clarifying.
@@TheBlakeWhitaker oh ya, fair point😊
I also want to add, that after the madness token is blocked by a shield, it is only placed back into a bag (without any redraw). This is better, because you can play more safe if you want to :) I really like this update from rulebook v1.20 :)
After listening to these rules i can understand why everyone in wonderland is a bit mad.
Wow the artwork just looks gorgeous. Take my money!
The aesthetic of the game looks great, but these rules and setup seem real complicated. I’m sure it probably flows once you get used to it, but I fear introducing this to new people
Desfore My thoughts exactly.
The setup is just a no go for me
I feel the same way. I'm all for learning a complicated game. I don't mind putting in the time to learn something like this, but introducing it to new people is a problem for me.
i don't even think it looks that complicated, i just think the gameplay isn't worth what complication it does have. I'd just rather play Quacks of Quedlinburg and get to it a lot quicker
cptawesome Quacks is sometimes criticized for not having interaction between players. A friend played it this weekend and said that you were invested in the other players’ battles because you can gamble on which of the other players will win battles you’re no involved in. He said it was smoother than it sounds when it’s e planned verbally.
Games looks fun and well produced. To get the nice version with the plastic discs, distinct meeples, & 3D printed character standees it costs $115 and you have two large boxes (you get both upgraded chips and cardboard chips) with $20 worth of shipping. Otherwise almost everything is cardboard and still costs $50. There is definitely a lot in the box but i have a hard time paying the high price tag for this particular game. I hope I don't regret passing on this one.
Wow how simple to set up and play.....
This game is a lot of fun, and they have changed the rules in post production since this video came out. The gameplay is much clearer now (still a little fiddly, but nowhere near what it was.)
This indeed - for some reason - seems overly complicated... And I say that while games like "On Mars", "Lisboa", "The Gallerist" or "Cerebria" and such are leading my top 10 list. I'm confused, but maybe, maybe that was the plan all along!? xD
Look I am all for complicated games but this game will leave you mad as a Hatter from what I'm seeing, also really looking forward you guys doing more villainess videos
Very good explanation!
Clear voice, good speed, interesting intonation, nice cuts and video detail insertions.
The game isn't my direction, but I will look some of your other videos, just for this good critics.
I'm not gonna lie, I zoned out a little at the begining because I thought this was the Cones of Dunshire.
First off this game looks super complicated and being a beginner gamer myself I'm not too sure if I could get other people to play with me that won't get bored and/or frustrated trying to figure out the game. Second of all I will get it anyway because I absolutely love Alice in Wonderland and the game looks gorgeous. Third her shirt, her shirt is adorable.
It took me way too long to realize this was just a competitive deckbuilder.
Oh yeah..... Deck building
My question is
Did it need to be this complex?
chip builder
I think its called „bag builder“, but i would have prefered a deck builder 😢
This game looks really good! Also, while complicated, I'm not turned off by the rules. I think that is because of the art quality and narrative context made by Skybound Games for the game itself. That said, one might say that the rules were designed to drive players to...madness?
Either I'm really stupid or this game seemed extreeeemely complicated because I understood none of it. I guess I'll wait until the gameplay video is uploaded!
Yeah, I think it's going to take more time to set up then to play it. I love the idea of this game but it would need to be much more bigger/dense for this many rules.
It is fitting though, that a game about Wonderland be overly complex and confusing
You spin the Wheel of Mayhem to go up the Ladder of Chance. You go past the Mud Hut, through the Rainbow Ring to get to the Golden Monkey, you yank his tail and boom - you're in Paradise Pond!
After about 3 minutes I stopped watching because it was too confusing.
The Quakalope video made it much easier to understand. The game has several things going on but individually they are all quite simple
But just doesn't come across as that XD
In other words, this game is:
Drafting + area control + deck building + additional rules to make it asymmetric
Drafting - you choose what you want to do from the available options
Area Control - you score points primarily from having the most power in an area
Deck building - you want to upgrade your bag of chips with better chips as the game goes by
Asymmetric - each character plays slightly different than the others
This game is a blast. Me and my two sons love it. Thank you
Best rules summaries on the Tube.
wow that looks great. i love the pink and black colours. the board game looks alright too.
"In this fantastical fight for frivolity..." I want to know how many times it took to say that one :) Great video! Thanks for showing us how to play!
Awesome video Becca and team. Keep up the great work.
I'm new to board games and looking to pick up my second one. This game is absolutely beautiful but holy crap, the rules. Rules seem so complicated. Don't know how I'm going to try and get friends to join me on this if I'm already lost. I'll just have to wait and see
Looks very interesting. Thanks for your clear explanation !
Yes this game looks like it is a lot. To be honest it is easy to play and just a ton of options for you to have when playing. Now it does take quite a bit of time to play especially with first time players. But if you like a hefty game and don't mind 2hrs of game play, then this game is for you.
Hi saw that the video is 2 years ago old... i assume more rules have been changed
Thanks for a great, succinct how to play!
I'd play this if it was a video game. It would be so much less complicated if a good portion was automated
6:24
If you bust your leader strength is reset to 0?
Reading it over now. I think you just reset battle strength to 0. However the animation shows the leader strength being reset to 0. 😅 love your videos ❤
This may be a silly question but as it’s been two years since this video and I’ve only recently had my kickstarter copy arrive.. are the rules still the same? 😅🤔
I'm interested on the background music you use. Any links so I can enjoy hearing it?
I look forward to the GtG of this one. I watched the Skybound Games stream & couldn't quite follow it, but an edited playthrough should sort that out.
Also, what's Oshi's favourite cocktail I wonder?
Does anyone know where I can buy this game? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Kickstarter has a link.
Does anyone know what music is playing in the background? It sounds pretty nice especially for this game 😮
I see those meeples!
This game looks fun as hell.
but on ks page is written 2-5 players 0:11
Also worth noted. 5 players, 4 characters available :D
Yes I know, for now, but still :D
A major mistake in this tutorial is you do not reduce your leader's strength after busting, just your Strength marker on the battle track.
Where can I buy this game? I can't find it anywhere, only the closes Kickstarter page
Is it just me or does it oozes bad tackled on design all over it?
Quick question for anyone that might know: Is LA By Night no longer a part of G&S? I saw them streaming with a S4E2 title on the World of Darkness Twitch channel. I couldn't track down any references to a season 4, so I'm curious to what this show's standing is.
I think they've split off to World Of Darkness everywhere now (there's a YT channel of the same name) but I'm not sure whether new episodes will still appear here too.
Hi Becca, i have two questions about rules:
1) you set the leader strenght at 0 (on the sword space)... but the rulebook says to set it on the '1' space, and this is visible also on the image at page. 4 (E);
2) you say that if a player have no more supporters in a battle region, they are busted... but the rulebook says 'if you have no UNITS left...", so this includes also leader and wonderlandians;
3) you say that if you are busted, the leader strenght fall to 0... but in the rulebook this one is not mentioned.
Maybe is there an updated rulebook different than the printed one included in the box?
Thank you!
You are correct! Becca likely had a prototype version of the rulebook that had differences. All the things you mentioned are indeed correct!
game looks like Rising Sun in Wonderland theme. Becca though looks gorgeous as always lovely outfit 👌🏾
Andre Dewitt Her looks have nothing to do with this rules overview.
A good overview, but in a game like this the devil is in the details. It would be great if you could do a more detailed dive into faction leader upgrades and what the cards do in detail.
Queen Becca Scott is the one and only Queen of Hearts! ❤❤❤
This looks like an over-complicated and over-produced mess with a pasted on theme. Seems like little to no strategy with random luck draws and die rolls.
Well, go watch ManVsMeeple if this is unclear. It was for me, and I can see that I'm not alone.
Link: th-cam.com/video/19A1hI_02SI/w-d-xo.html&feature=emb_title
Throw all the mechanics together and hope for the best.
Have the rules been revised since this video or are the rules still the same? Just ask so I don’t ask people to watch this learning the wrong ones 🤗
Clear and easy to understand. Thank you!
Wow, my 8 year old is really gonna dig this!! 😨
6 mins in and I still dont know whats the win condition or even the goal of the game
I got a different set of stuff for my version and mine is a five player game.....
Rebbeca FTW
Is TableTop coming back?
No
Adam Hostetler What happen to TableTop?
@@DarkSlayer977 Will Wheaton and G&S had a falling out after G&S was bought by Legendary Entertainment
Is Becca the last person making content for this channel?
I miss the table top game videos
Reminds me of Quacks & Blood Rage / Rising Sun, but way wayyy more overly complicated. I’m sure it will do well.
Beautiful game. Too much setup for my taste.
Today I'm leaving feedback of my personal experience. It's not meant to be disrespectful in any way, these are just my personal experience and thoughts. I think it's a shame that while your content is high quality as far as hosting, set and filming/editing goes, I always end up going to other sources for "how to play" videos. While most of them aren't nearly as nice to look at, a game as complex as this should be introduced more thoroughly. Take some time to really show off the material, for example. Make little interludes with suggestions for token storing, or comments about the characters and such. The density of information thrown at me always makes me turn away. There are already a number of channels out there doing the "super quick rules" thing. In this setup I'd prefer a more thorough look at the game, an actual introduction. This video has my head spinning half way in and now I'm once again off to find an alternative that I will find easier to watch and grasp.
why must we make games so complex, Off with their heads!
I guess it’s because we have too many games with simple Mechanics and they all are super similar to each other but with a different theme
Tea Party Cards. Don't you mean "Tea Cardies"? :P
Vsauce says "hi"
Hmmm doesn't look like my cup of tea
(Get it!? 🤣)
Are the cones a metaphor? Well, yes and no...
How do we get more WIl Wheaton and Tabletop?
I miss Wil but Becca does a great job! She explains so good the games and the game play´s are great
@@aliceplaysboardgames1888 Wasnt trying to say shes bad. I just miss the tabletop show.
@@bola31 we all do... but he´s not coming back. It´s time to move on!
It's been a looooooong time. Get ovvvvvver it.
I just love Alice in the wonderland it was the best and the looks awesome
Is this Becca's alter-ego Reb?
OMG this looks unnecessarily complicated 😮😮
don't keep oshi waiting
Looks stunning, the game is ok too
What’s happened to this channel? There used to be so many updates with games and live action RPG... now just one or 2 updates a week? Kinda disappointed. I viewed this channel as the best geek and gaming channel on TH-cam. I can’t say that anymore. :(
Women go crazy 'bout a shard quest man!
this game is a HUGE nah! imagine teaching your friends who only see you once every 2 weeks lol
This board game gave me an idea for a tabletop rpg campaign. I’m going to have to work on this...
Geek & Sundry
Teach me all games plz
I have no idea of what I just watched xDDD
Becca is Queen of Hearts, she got mine long time ago...
ribbon/scarf/choker
i dig it
I’m here for the sweet, sweet cringe. And because the Queen of Hearts commanded it.
That game looks too busy :/
Eye candy
Game looks good too.
So cute host❤
Just seeing this on a table convinced me to avoid the game. Who has the table space needed for this thing lol??
It’s a table hog for sure…but the game is so incredibly fun. Don’t let the size stop you from experiencing it.
2+2= 4, is all I learned
Why is almost every game 4 players or less? Pffft. As a group of 5 we immediately skip any games that we can't all play. Pitty.
This game is 5 players
So….why wasn’t she wearing rabbit ears, or dressed like Alice? 😂
Oof, thanks, Beka, but no thanks.
I applaud anyone who has the patients to play these games, they do look fun. Catan is as far as I go.
Cute host xo
Jesus christ, Cones of Dunshire must have been simplified version of this. It almost feels like a parody of a board game.
why is she so cute
For anyone wondering about the weird scarf, it's because Shayna Bazsler bit the back of her neck during the last WWE RAW
I feel like she's making up everything on the spot and it isn't real.
I was not prepared for this amount of ignorance here in the comments.
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This theme doesnt make sence for the game : /
Way too complicated.
Honestly seems dull.
U need to move the teleprompter slightly closer to the camera
Why make the red queen so ugyl!? Instead of a harley queen like queen.