Lucy Letby: the full story of the serial killer nurse
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- Lucy Letby murdered seven babies, attempted to murder six others and there are allegations of more.
She was the young nurse nobody would have suspected, working with the most vulnerable of tiny lives in the neonatal unit.
She eclipses Myra Hindley and Beverley Allitt to become the worst child murderer in British modern history.
The families she destroyed remain private but the case raises nationwide issues because of the shocking way NHS managers dismissed the concerns of doctors who were trying to raise the alarm.
Instead of listening and calling the police, managers are reported to have accused them of mistreating the nurse and forced them to apologise.
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Those hospital managers should be charged and tried for the part they played in assisting Letby to murder helpless babies.
Joint enterprise
Jail them
RIGHT YOU ARE, BUT THE WHOLE FRICKEN COUNTRY IS COWBOY-STYLE LOW-LIFE ATTITUDE
Well said
they clearly had inappropriate relationships with her. this is so sad! managers tend to protect their staff who do "favorable" things.
Hospital Managers should never overrule clinicians when it comes to patient safety!
100% agree!!!
100%!!!!
Sadly, that is not how it works
Politician ministers bosses overrule doctors in the system
There should be cross checks, but in hospitals, doctors should have the final word
I can't believe anybody would would F######g do this!!! :(
@@bengrindell7693 it's not the first instance of this kind, and sadly, not the last
I was born at 27 weeks with hydrocephalus and a brain bleed. I spent 4 months in the NICU. The nurses and doctors saved my life. I was supposed to be blind, deaf, and unable to walk. Today I am a happy, healthy wife and mother. Those men and women were angels. This woman is an absolute disgrace to the medical field. She violated her oathe of first do no harm to those innocent babies fighting for their lives. It makes my blood boil. I pray that the parents of those sweet angels can find some kind of peace and healing some day. My deepest condolences go out to them. This is just heart breaking.
🙏❤️🙏
God blessed you for sure🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Not to mention the babies who did survive some of them now have long-term injuries and require care for the rest of their lives because of what she did
Only doctors take the hippocratic 'do no harm' oath but get your meaning❤
The fact that high up management kept it a secret for so long it’s disgraceful!
They should be accountable too!
They most definitely can be tried for abetting a criminal since by not only not reporting the murders but also keeping it hidden they encouraged her to continue her killing spree. Prosecutors should most definitely charge those who are accountable with abetting a criminal as reads in UK law:
"Whosoever shall aid, abet, counsel, or procure the commission of any indictable offence, whether the same be an offence at common law or by virtue of any Act passed or to be passed, shall be liable to be tried, indicted, and punished as a principal offender."
Absolutely! They would be in country .
They did not act on the concerns because of perceived sexism. Modern culture, the belief that criticisms of women are all based in misogyny is responsible for all these deaths.
That's how hospitals work. Helping people is secondary, money comes first.
An invitation to the world from Kazakhstan : Quantum physicists from all over the world must unite to find a way to recreate a video image of events that took place in a certain space. Revolutionary technology for viewing history. Is this not possible ?.
I find it disturbing that senior managers made Staff sign a letter to apologise for their suspicions of LETBY'S conduct.
It's terrible 😭 Xxxx
Maybe they are with her
She was the ward bike for the managers..
They didn't want to lose their play thing.
I find it disturbing she didn't even have to go court 🙄how can a person who killed multiple children have the right not to face her victims?
They have a lot to answer for; they certainly have blood on there hands!
Why is management not being held accountable? Why do they still have jobs? This is horrendous
The management all left when she got arrested. Hopefully they will be held to account.
Absolutely disgusting! you cannot put friendships and relationships above a job involving babies lives. The fact they offered a different job is disgusting. They need to be tried.
This is normal for the UK in general. No consequences. There be this inquiry it will take years, then a public inquiry more years. It is already 6 years.
Because nobody wants to fill out paperwork to replace them.
Complicit. Should be on manslaughter charges.
I work as a pediatric emergency trauma nurse. I care from those from birth to adulthood. The first oath we take is to do no harm. She knew what was doing, trophied it even. She is a monster, deserving the harshest justice for these life’s lost and those permanently altered by this monster. She is no nurse. She is a murderer.
From Kazakhstan: I think this situation deserves a mass peaceful rally. The right to conceal the cause of the crime and not to be present at the time of sentencing is a mistake. It is wrong for a criminal against society to have the right to do so in front of society. The public should have access to information about his life in prison online at any time. Because now there is no reason to block it, the technology is advanced, there are video cameras that support online connection. Such an opportunity is comforting to many residents. There should always be an opportunity to learn from the antisocial offender's later life. Forward Britain.
You're a "pediatric emergency trauma nurse" ... yet basic English seems to have gotten the better of you? like, what's up with: "she knew what was doing" ... "life's"? > *lives ... like, it's basic English Laura, do you need a couple days off work to get some rest? I'm honestly concerned for you sweetheart. 🤣
@@rustyneedles3743
They’re, there, their.
I see you’re are a real fan of the English language. I truly apologize and appreciate your expertise and concerns to address my grammatical errors.
Thank you sincerely for the correction and life advice, “sweetheart”. 😉
"It" is a demon in a human body. I just don't understand how evil in human bodies can exist in this world, no words!
@@rustyneedles3743 I'm glad you said it because I was about to. They must have lowered the education requirements to become a "pediatric emergency trauma nurse"!
I’ve witnessed nurses fired for MUCH less than these horrific crimes - the administration that covered for her should be investigated as well- what favors was she doing for THEM to get them to protect her as much as they did?! It doesn’t make sense otherwise 🤨
You should see what Royal Preston Hospital cover up also
Her head game on another level
@@gloriahavland9844 the case just makes me sick
How do I properly file a report against a nurse?
@@catwoman2596 in the UK or outside?
There’s PALs that you can contact
BUT one thing that is tricky is say for instance you went to a hospital and saw many staff members, even some who look alike or have similar names or if they didn’t give you their name or their accent made it hard to understand or pronounce the name etc
Then it’s hard to know who to report
Also it can be hard if you don’t know if there was CCTV or anyone to corroborate your story as it can be your word against another
Also the process can be long so the alleged staff member can be like: oh come on it was ages ago, and I see so many people, how am I supposed to remember X?
And they can also be like: well it was ages ago so how do we know X still remembers it all?
Sometimes it goes on so long and if you do get an apology it might not even be from the alleged person
Sometimes it can be a “sorry you feel that way,” which is a sorry not sorry
Occasionally they might admit to errors or say they take it on board, but whether they do or not is questionable
It’s very tough, got stories that would shock you
Good luck to you though 🤗
We all need a full PUBLIC INQUIRY. We MUST have this.
To say the same.... Lessons must be learnt...
I'm so surprised she's not American 🇺🇸
No you need dozens of private and separate investigations to break through this one, could thwart one big public investigation as easily as killing a kid, even so; police in my country have trouble snuffing me up, not affraid 🖕😇🫒🕎
What about a public inquiry into millions of deaths from the poison ?
@@Hellndegenerates Corona virus was caused by men in New York and Florida, they gifted everyone a star (what people kill kids for) and stole them all back away, this has a woeful affect on destiny and immunity, also strangely connected to your capacity to breathe 😅 they had a three week summer break in the most beautiful hashassain Babylonian realm and woke up off the shores of a very sick and troubled world, even so; they still admire Babylon and all my unlawful wife's delicacies 😭🫒🕎
Crimes against children are the most heartbreaking. Not protecting an innocent little baby is so hard to fathom.
I don’t see why they are the most. They are heartbreaking but so are many crimes against adults.
@@yacovlk7924 Are you dumb?
@@yacovlk7924
Newborn babies in ICU are completely defenceless. Adults are generally able to defend themselves.
I’m assuming you don’t have children, which is probably for the best.
Oh shut up
I agree, therfore include the nurses who administered the poison j4b to children
Having your child stay in a neonatal unit is terrifying, the atmosphere is so hard to describe, I remember sobbing over my baby boy, feeling utterly useless.
At one point I was in the lounge trying to compose myself and the other parents either looked just as broken as I felt or full of hope, to think people like Lucy exist in these settings is just horrific
From Lucy Letby to Wayne Couzens, white-on-white crime is an issue that must not be swept under the carpet any longer.
Condolences to the families.🥲
@@jp3630 What was swept under the carpet?
This is it. I keep telling myself this isn't true. My boy was in this unit too. I'm so crushed witnessing this.
I used to work in that area ...it is heartbreaking to go though this, but I hope that you had a happy ending. So many of the doctors in that unit were so dedicated. It was amazing.🕊️
SamanthaK, I'm so sorry you had to experience the stress of NICU, but believe me when I say that this is an horrific event that was last seen over 30 years ago.
I've been in NICU for over 25 years, cared for thousands of babies, and people like Lucy do not exist in these units.
Only Lucy existed in that unit, it is a demonic crime and she will never see the free light of day again.
All the best.
How could she “refuse to come to court”? I’ve never heard of UK prisoners being allowed to decide if THEY want to attend their trials or not…is that really a thing?
It seems OK with the BBC and ITV that bad people can hide to avoid their terrible unforgivable behavior. The worlds gone terribly wrong!
I think she'll probably refuse to go to prison as well!😄
Yes, it’s within the law for them to refuse to attend court.
If she refused to leave her cell, the people giving impact statements should have all been brought to her cell and made their statements there.
@@lizziewalker7844 It is within the individual judge's power to order them into court. This judge failed...badly. He failed those families in their healing process by not seeing that they could give their victim impact statements to the Letby monster's face.
As an adult icu nurse and as a mother lost a newborn daughter.. the level of disgust and how evil this woman is.. words are not enough to express it
Yes, sadly, people like yourself will be disgusted. I also feel angry for the time it took.
fucking hope not once is enoug h@@sandradenise2283
@@sandradenise2283As far as normal world rules you are nuts 😅
@@nanucit Repeat: Everyone has been here before.
@@sandradenise2283 Repeat: you are nuts
Those who covered it up deserve no less hate than the killer. They value profits and reputation over human lifes.
Let's just throw in 75% of the worlds population who in the same position to profit would do the same. Politicians are the worse. Correction, abo rtion doctors are worse than politicians, but just slightly because they rely on each other.
Most people put profit and reputation over other people's lives so it's pretty normal
most people have done some thing that could harm others, like throwing a piece of rock away out of anger, if it didn't hit, fine, but if hits, that's a crime(just giving example, I can't list all of them)@@zeusthegodandtheonly
It's a tough job, but don't give up the fight, the police need to get Letby out of jail temporarily. The deaths in the hospital are said to be accidents and actually natural causes, and Letby must be fooled. He has to temporarily "work" again in the hospital. Hidden video cameras in the room and stop as soon as the killing starts! command speaker should work. When the psychopath Letby returns, he inevitably tries to commit another murder for the pleasure of killing a baby. This serves to obtain the most accurate evidence.
Criminal activities deserve criminal prosecutions
The hospital managers should be in court for negligence. They protected this killer. They are to blaim like the nurse for murder.
yes all of them need to go. Avoid this hospital.
Blame
Wife and I are having a very difficult time conceiving, trying for years, I can't imagine someone taking the gift of life away from parents and the world. Absolutely heart breaking. She should be locked away forever.
Children are not gifts, they are just human beings. Bringing them into this world thinking they are gifts is not only an irresponsible act but also selfish.
@@foodie_nightoscalm down hero! Women are actually made to have children, it's still not dangerous or invalidating!
Live a normal healthy life and things will be fine 💐
@@juandavidtorresbedoya1330you’re absolutely right.
My son was on the neo natal unit when he was born. We put our complete trust in the medical staff. The team that worked on my son were angels on earth and he is now a healthy 14 year old. I cannot begin to imagine what these parents went through, my heart breaks for them .
I was a nicu baby when I was born, and we have pictures that the lovely staff took of me while caring for me (it was the 90s, and they didn't permit mothers to sleep at the hospital back then, so she had to go home each night as I stayed in my box) with little "look at me! I'm having a bath and being such a good baby about it!"
Thinking about how easily someone like Lucy Letby could have harmed me or anyone else there, and gotten away with it because of how vulnerable and alone in their care they'd be gives me chills.
You really do put all trust in medical staff, and it's really alarming how people like Lucy can wiggle their way into that profession and seem like a normal person, when really they're a cold-blooded killer.
That’s damn stupid. Trusting strangers. What would you have done if someone like her was there?
ENGLAND IS THIS
@@RouxHarbour
ENGLAND IS THIS
@@AnimatedBlast
ENGLAND IS THIS
If you’re accused of a crime this hideous, you should be suspended indefinitely until a verdict is decided. Ridiculous she was allowed to carry on working 3 more years after the first suspicions.
I think they eventually moved her to a desk job
innocent until proven guilty. Of course precautions should be put in place but you cant punish someone on mere accusations
She went on to kill more
@@akaakaakaak5779 Precautions which should have led to her being removed, albeit probably on full pay for that time.
@@akaakaakaak5779 she was proved guilty
I have been a nurse for 30 years. This is appalling. The hospital management needs to be taken to task for the decisions they made which allowed this to go on. No sentence imposed can ever make up for the harm, the cruelty, inflicted on the babies and their families...and also on the decent, doctors, and nurses who worked on those units. Many, many years ago, here in Columbus, Ohio, a medical resident was murdering patients at OSU Medical Center. His name was Dr. Swango. The medical center covered it up. Dr. Sawngo went on his way from OSU with good references and continued to harm and kill in other hospital settings, in other states, and later overseas. The hospital did not want the notoriety or any lawsuits so concerns and complaints about Swango being dangerous were swept under the rug. The world, today, seems to have an increase in sick people (who appear normal) posing a danger in caring professions. Policies, procedures, and laws need to be put in place requiring hospitals, nursing homes, etc. to safely remove any employee who is suspected of harming patients or putting them at risk.
She's a coward took a life of someone who cant defend themselves. What a monster evil human being!!!
To hear that senior manages wanted to move her BACK to the Neonatal unit after all that!! Just shocking. Someone at that hospital needs to be held accountable.
lucy letby ....a night time magician......a witch......charming all those around itself.......to cover it's true dark nature.......don't judge a book by it's cover......things aren't always as they seem.....selah!!..Pause & Think on this🤔
Indeed it's terrible Xxxx
Hindsight is 20/20 vision. She was not charged or convicted of any wrong doing at the time so what was the management to do without siding with the doctors and discriminating against her? There was no real evidence pointing to her as a murderer at the time. Doctors are wrong all the time, they are not gods. Even the case against her in court was circumstantial and it took ages for the jury to reach a verdict.
IMAGINE going through all the pain of delivery just for ur baby to get murdered.these parents need to sue no one deserves this
And some of those poor little babies died horribly too 😪
@@arturius7534 Of course it would have been. That's an understatement!
Perhaps your empathy levels are low so you're not able to grasp how painful the attacks and dying would have been for some of those little babies.
@@blue15443 Your trolling is too obvious. It shows us a sad and bored attention seeker.
Next time try more subtlety.
😢 it really is terrible. Xxxx
@blue15443 so you say parents should get into units and try or force a nurse to do her job properly??!! How can you even think of blaming parents?!
It’s so tragic and unbelievable the way the hospital managed this. Those poor parents. I’ve worked briefly in a large inner city nicu when training as a midwife and the staff were the most committed and caring team . To think a team member would murder these tiny souls is beyond belief 😢
video record every thing and never leave medical staff alone with vulnerable people, including babies. This way you can make them accountable and keep them in check.
Obviously the Hospital doesn't want to be liable and accountable. They think themselves first. Their reputation. Their business. It's horrific and disgusting.
Society is as disturbed as that nurse. If you can say what she did was deplorable yet support this same thing via abortion then you’re a hypocrite, as disturbed as that nurse.
It does not matter if this nurse murdered a baby or if a baby was murdered by abortion clinics and the mom… the result is the same, a murdered deceased baby.
Murder has no stipulations.
Murder is murder and abortion is murder.
Thanks Captain Obvious!
Society should make sure that the NHS managers who would not listen or act upon advice from the consultants, should be punished for their inaction and incompetence. Their negligence resulted in babies being murdered and should be imprisoned and their pension rights revoked.
These obscenely overpaid, useless bastards, are the reason that the NHS is failing…😡
Same can be said for so-called politicians…
Why did she do it is she crazy
How it went on so long someone knew or more than one knew something was very wrong
@@gretahassock8914 they did know but they didn't want to believe it. They're just as accountable as she is and therefore should serve no less a sentence.
Edit: not nhs workers that blew the whistle but were ignored. They did nothing wrong. Maybe they could've done more but did they really HAVE to? If their suspicions are dismissed from higher ups it's like a form of gaslighting even though admins know almost nothing.
Those consultants could've picked up the phone and called the police themselves, they chose not to. They share equal blame with management.
My heart breaks for all of the parents whose lives were shattered because of the disgusting acts of this monster. 😢
Kill and child in the belly... "My heart breaks"... Kill a child after birth... "You wicked, evil person".... hypocrites
They should do some digging in care homes too. A lot of white British carers and nurses are getting away with murder. BUPA Care Homes.
@@luyolomify How do you think you know this?
@@luyolomify White?
@@luyolomifya lot of black mums
Eat the weakest in the litter lol
Disgusting what she did!! Abs it shocked me to hear she tried to do this to twins, but failed, but succeeded in 3 identical triplets!! I can't even imagine what those parents are abs have been through. My heart goes out to EVERY SINGLE FAMILY affected by this devil!! 💔 😢
For someone who claims she did nothing wrong, she seemed not at all surprised the police were there to arrest her.
To learn that the managers and hospital senior leadership wanted to reinstate this monster to the neonatal clinic is absolutely shocking and should be questioned and there has to be a public enquiry. Heads will roll.
I believe they resigned. But they need to be held accountable!!!
Maybe even jailed.
It's all about the money. They had a position to fill and had their stupid heads in the sand
I have chronic illness and I see this in NHs sadly. Management covers up incidents and nothing is done
They simply don’t care and their priorities are definitely not the patients
*_Senior paediatrician Dr Stephen Brearey told the trial that the day before that incident, he told Ms Rees he and his colleagues were ‘not happy’ with Letby because of the number of baby deaths and collapses during her shifts._*
*_Ms Rees has now released a statement saying she wasn’t given enough information to justify removing Letby from her duties._*
*_She says Karen Townsend, the director of urgent care at the hospital, and Ravi Jayaram, a consultant who was the clinical lead for neonates and paediatrics, told her there were concerns about Letby’s clinical practices._*
*_Ms Rees says she was told at this stage that Dr Brearey thought Letby should be removed from the neonatal unit._*
*_The retired nursing chief says in her statement: "I immediately went to find Ravi Jayaram and Stephen Brearey in order to obtain more information about the allegations that had been made."_*
*_"I went straight away as it was a Friday afternoon, and I was conscious that staff would be going home for the weekend. I wanted to find out what the concerns were."_*
*_She says she went to the office the two men shared but Dr Brearey wasn’t there._*
*_Ms Rees continues: "Ravi wouldn’t give me any information to explain why Lucy Letby should be removed from the unit. He said nothing about air embolus, or over-feeding."_*
*_"He did not even mention babies dying and Lucy Letby being present. He just asked for Lucy Letby to be removed from the neonatal unit."_*
*_Ms Rees says she felt she ‘urgently’ needed to speak with Dr Brearey about concerns around Letby._*
*_After she got hold of him, she explained to Dr Brearey that she needed more information before she could remove a nurse from the neonatal unit._*
*_Ms Rees added: "Stephen Brearey was measured throughout. I said that if there were issues, then I needed to know what they were."_*
*_"Despite that, he refused to give me any more information. He said that he had evidence, but he refused to show it to me."_*
As they should.
Nothing less than a public inquiry is adequate! The parents deserve nothing less.
Not just the parents - we all need and deserve nothing less. How can we trust the NHS ever again to take care of our most precious ones?
Public inquiry into Midazolam Matt and Co. who killed millions of our elderly 2020 on!
What’s a public inquiry when they don’t even have the common sense to install cameras ? Useless pathetic garbage
Even public enquiries can be useless. The covid one is inept.
you brits love a public inquiry. how pathetic. public inquiry are nothing but a way for those who failed victims to feel good about themselves
Why would a hospital keep turning a blind-eye?
American Charles Cullen (R.N. killed patients in multiple hospitals for more than a decade), the American hospitals behaved exactly the same way the British hospital behaved in the Lucy Letby case. A hospital is "a business". Administrators in the U.S. with Cullen and in the UK with Letby protected their insurance policies not their patients. That's why the killings were able to occur for so long. Doctors that worked with both these nurses testified to the hospital superiors' but the hospital administrators are salaried with an additional bonus. Administrators were not interested in reporting the events to the authorities. They just kept moving them from job to job and they killed where ever they worked.
It is sickening that the manager waited that long why they didn't listen to the Doctors concerns?? He should be charged too
Doctors could call police too
@@edwardvalivonis23And they'd have been fired for doing so, and managers would have turned the police away.
The doctors went through the proper channels to report it, management refused to believe it and forced them to apologise. Disgraceful.
I would willing risk my job and reputation, if l thought it would save a life. A paediatric consultant is a powerful figure..he should have gone to the police IMO
@@jessicaellina3878easy to say when you actually not in that position
The suspicions were not of her pissing in the coffee machine. It was suspicions of her being involved in the death of the babies!!. Yet all they did was move her to a different department. A serious investigation must take place. The hospital managers have a lot to answer for!.
She should have been suspended from the hospital entirely.
Exactly. Imagine working with a colleague who is suspected of killing babies. Messed up situation!
Lucy Letby and board managers are Whites, doctors who raised concerns were Asians or Arabs. They were not taken seriously and they did everything to protect one of their own. They even forced a senior doctor to apologize in writing and to her face.
Lucy Letby and board managers are Whites, doctors who raised concerns were Asians or Arabs. They were not taken seriously and they did everything to protect one of their own. They even forced a senior doctor to apologize in writing and to her face.
Every single new NHS staff member should have a psychological evaluation before working in care. I’m an ex nhs employee. I saw one to many times how SOME nurses treat patients… this is when a monster is allowed to study medicine and there are ( in my opinion) still monsters working in the NHS.
We should now realize evil doesn't always look ugly.
Justice has NOT been served. Not entirely. Those that let her continue working while suspicions were being raised need to be prosecuted as well. Had they removed her as soon as someone said something a few of those babies would be around today. HUGE FAIL on their part.
Yup, they need to go to prison.
very few people comprehend human beings true nature. unless u are born again of the holy spirit...you are an evil entity.
Agree entirely. The managers need to be held to account. I am 😢 crying
She will die in prison (In segragation) at the tax payers expense. Not enough punishment for me tbh. I nearly lost my young daughter, who was treated at the Countess. Thanfully Letby was too young to be there. The Countess consultants saved my daughters life ...and no doubt mine as well. Can we please talk about the useless managers though??
@@256Justinian I’m not “born again of the Holy Spirit” as u say and I’m certainly not evil.
My nephew was born in that hospital in January 2016, thankfully he never crossed paths with this woman but it still makes me sick to think it was a possibility. Condolences to all the families, may they finally find healing.
Remember when you raise up nurses in a culture that's against Christian and Bible,
children and women by anti-life and anti-traditional marriage.
@@callmekirkland8huh?
@@jessicabrewer89 weird abortion virtue signaling
@@callmekirkland8????? What sort of comment is that !!!!!
Why didn't those who felt suspicious from the beginning call the police themselves?! Why did they have to wait for hospital managers? I don't understand this AT ALL.
Hospital must be held accountable
Lesson learned: Call the police when there is an unexpected death of a baby. We do it for the elderly in care homes who are in the last lap of their lives, Why not apply it to babies who are just beginning their lives.
Or get the autopsy ASAP. Then get them involved. That's what that Georgia couple had to do
Also lesson learned, there is something completely wrong with the internal culture of that organization from the top down. All of the people who decided not to call the police should be jailed for manslaughter for starters.
From Kazakhstan: It is wrong to give this woman the right to keep the reasons for the crime a secret. It is necessary to determine the cause of the crime. After that, it is necessary to inform the English and Kazakh people about the reason for the crime. The whole nation has not yet achieved what it wants. People's desires are underfoot. The public should have the right to watch a live broadcast of this woman's life in prison whenever they want. Such a broadcast will comfort the English and Kazakh people. English and Kazakhs have the right to know why this woman committed this crime and to watch her punishment in prison on live video whenever they want. English and Kazakh people are very angry with this woman.
@@nurbeknaimanhow knowing ’why’ would change anything?
Why would anyone care about a serial killer’s ’reasons’ to murder innocent babies?
A serial killer may give you her/his personal ‘logic/justification’ for murdering people, but the real reason is for psychologists and other professionals to investigate.
This woman will rot jailed for life. She is the kind of monster not one in prison can tolerate near by. She may not live for long in any prison.
Exactly why was it not the case straight away discussing
The parents should club together and sue the senior managers that were protecting Lucy Letby despite receiving several concerns raised about her involvement in these murders by paediatricians.
Parents are in pain
They could to that or these people have addresses no? Get me? Don't expect the system that protected these people to be any use in bringing them to heel.
"club together"? how dumb a statement is that. You assume peoples lives, people's money. Jeez there's no hope.
All you can think about is money. 😂
**Concerns raised by Paediatricians about her involvement in these murders.**
The culture of hiding mistakes in hospitals are very alarming . They punctured, however they kept hiding it and denying me treatment until I collapsed and a doctor finally blew the whistle! I was then in hospital for 2 weeks and they forbid that doctor from entering my room!
I work for an aged care home and one of the carers has been witnessed and reported multiple times for abusing, bullying residents and staff. Somehow the manager refuses to fire her, she even rewarded her insists she is a “good worker” it’s really, really weird. Reports to the government have even been made and the manger just keeps on protecting the staff member instead of the residents. The abusive carer is a masculine, really loud, mean obnoxious and aggressive worker. She bullies all the new carers, tells them they will be fired if they are “not fast enough” and she man handles frail elderly residents and forces them to cares they don’t want to do in the specific time she makes them. I don’t know why managers like people like this. I wish the police would be involved but nothing has happened.
Any one accused of murder should be in court for the verdict, they should not be given an option
Guess I’ll go around accusing fucking everybody of murder then. Wouldn’t that be fun to see random people in court?
I absolutely agree. Strap her and wheel her in there, if necessary.
This country is soft, just like its judicial system! Absolute laughing stock of a country.
Agree 😢
“Should she have been stopped sooner?” 😮 I think it’s fair to say the question is “WHY wasn’t she stopped sooner?”
Management should be held responsible
No manager NHS or child social services when kids murdered ever been even charged.this is Tory Britain, full pay suspension plus early retirement 6 million pound pension
Totally agree. The other staff ( doctors and nurses) suspected her. The management should have at least looked into the reasons why they did and informed the police.
When you are talking about life and death of tiny babies, yes you would think so
The most tragic and interesting thing about this is that years ago there was another very similar case with a female nurse on a maternity ward. This feels like a repeat of the case of beverly allit.
What was the case called
@@lildino1351 beverly allit, "angel of death"
Refuse to be in trial🥴??In that case,Would she be able to refuse to go to the prison too???Dear British ppl,I need your explanation please😊
I used to work with nurses who would tell the unit clerk to just ignore the call light their patients would push for help. "They just want their drugs" they would say. About CANCER patients. Not all nurses are heros.
Thank you .
That's awful. Honestly i often wonder why some choose to be in a career like this which requires service yet don't have an ounce of compassion in their body.
agreed. The hospital i went to sent me home with sepsis cause they were too busy and just didnt care, you could see i was very unwell as my entire body was swelling and shutting my airways! luckily i was rushed to another hospital in a different town and given life saving surgery, but if i hadnt been i wouldve died from neglect cause they just didnt care & wouldve left a 2 year old child alone. I really dont trust hospitals anymore.
Yes I believe it attracts women who want to care, but those who like to see people suffer, I wouldn’t have the heart to see people dying and in pain.
@@AliceSykesFromWalkerland That is so aweful, Im glad you went somewhere else ❤️
The senior management needs to be held accountable 100%. Unacceptable for a killing spree to go on for so long when there was red flags everywhere.
I agree!!! They removed her from the NICU and put her in a fucking office job!!! Then .. for 9 fucking months the people in charge of NICU tried to get her back!!! 😡😡😡
And absolutely there should be a fucking inquiry. My God 😡😡😡
Somethings off with Senior management not sure what it is what was her relationship with the person or people 🤔
@@robinlowery100 she was smiley apparently. Imagine.
100%? Would you settle for 95%?
@@dahof2789I'd settle for that. Letby is definitely 100% responsible for her actions and the Management were then negligent. Constant internal enquiries before the Police were contacted
So the head of a hospital just went out and gave an ordinary “I’m sorry” speech and that’s all?! Who covered all the deaths must be investigated including this head of a hospital himself!!!
He's a cold hearted unsympathetic monster
Sorry but not sorry attitude
Absolutely disgusting
My daughter was in the NICU for 27 days and she had a different nurse every shift. I don’t understand how she got away with this for long. As a mother I would want answers!!!!!
The story, other than this foul woman murdering babies for a very long time with what looked a lot like total impunity, is how health service managers allowed it to happen. The doctors and consultants warned them. They didn't listen. And worse, they made them apologise to her. Where are they now? In well-remunerated, cushy jobs.
My partner is a nurse and from everything I’ve heard, hospital management staff are a dangerous mix of incompetent and arrogant. The money the NHS parts with to employ these leeches is staggering and ALL they do is try to protect and justify their own employment, often at the expense of clinical staff.
These managers should be doing time for their part in this!
@@olivergosling3668 The money that senior health service managers receive is staggering. They have no clinical experience, at all, but tell professionals who are qualified up to the hilt how to do their jobs. It's a hideous state of affairs.
i live in ireland, health service here is exact same, it gets 20 billion a year in funding and gets worse and worse, the head of the Irish health service is on almost 500 grand a year and the previous one had an army chauffeur
@@jordan3405Not according to the verdict. This is the one time I support the death penalty. Some people just shouldn't be allowed to live any longer.
@@jordan3405
Yeah, ok...
Flat earther too?
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This is what happens when you have managers who have no idea of what actually goes on within a ward, and has no medical background. And their number one go to will always be, to cover up anything damaging.
The managers certainly deserve the criticism for their part, but it's very easy for the concerned doctors to pass the blame and responsibility on to them. Everyone has a part to play and if they had serious concerns about Tracy Letby and the senior management weren't listening to them, why didnt they go to the police? This is a criminal matter and if they were concerned then they should have done what was necessary
@@garyambrosini1427in hindsight I’m sure those doctors and paediatricians are asking themselves that same question. I suspect they feared for their jobs. The NHS machine chose those useless f**kers to be their senior management.
@@garyambrosini1427 The doctors in question now have regrets over that. They were trying to go through the proper channels and thought at the time they were doing what was right.
Don't fool yourself. Esteemed physicians can be, and in great many instances are just as bad
I totally agree
Life in prison? That is so wrong. Rewarding this person by making the public pay to take care of her for the rest of her life.
Its insane
Hopefully, she’ll get what she did to those babies.
Revenge isn't justice. @@margot_46
This hospital must shut down for ever .No parents will go there after such horrific gruesome murder to helpless infant .
Let's be clear - the managers that allowed this to happen are not the same as the striking doctors, who are the people who raised the alarm bells.
Feel so sorry for UK Doctors. What a crappy career
I get what you're saying, just one small thing: It's a crappy career in the UK! Almost any other 1st-world country it is valued for the life-saving profession that it is. Here you have to have a big heart and be very altruistic to stay in the NHS. That isn't sustainable when the profession simply isn't being well-compensated or well-respected. Most will, as they have done, leave for better paying countries. @@HassanPoyo
@@HassanPoyo A lot of UK doctors have great careers and are very happy in their work.
@@It-is-me...Melsiethis would be easier to believe were it not for the endless strikes we’re seeing from both junior and senior doctors with massive mandates for such strikes.
Who are these people sir I always thought they were high ranking doctors
Oh god, this is a horrendous story. I'm a former longterm ( Aussie) nurse, and being a whistleblower is v difficult. From my personal experience. Authorities take ages to move and then seem to want to prove the whistleblower wrong. You need nerves of steel to get through it. Non medical staff working as 'managers' is a big problem .They have a business mindset, not medical. You can't relate to them at all. In the 'good old days' we had med and former med staff working in those roles. Hospitals are not businesses! They are institutions where lifesaving is paramount. Patients are everything and having cruel and neglectful nurses terrify you. Patients depend on you so much. You are all they have. Those poor babies and their parents. May she never see the light of outside world again. Likely she will need heavy protection also. She shouldn't be given it. Since when do we let baby murderers live? Vile monster...
Good words.
I don't think this has anything to do with non-medical staff. This has to do with incompetence, laziness, bad judgment, only caring about reputation and being completely clueless about what matters.
@@carmenl163if they weren't non-medical they may have had a better understanding and mindset when being presented with the raised concerns....the expectation is a medical person would act accordingly to the concerns.
Non medical management showed their inability and ignorance by their attitude and behaviour
@@leannemackenzie3814 I see your point, but from my experience it's not necessary for a manager to have in dept knowledge of the field he's working in. What he needs is to trust his experts in the field. It's flat out dumb to ignore their knowledge. The manager is good at managing, that's his expertise. The medics are good at healing people, that's their expertise. It's only just getting a mess when people start interfering with the expertise of others.
Some of the managers were ex-nurses so took Letby's side against the doctors. I know and have met hospital managers and lots are ex-clinical staff.
My condolences to the families affected.😢
It is unfathomably shocking how management dragged their feet on this matter.
Failings by managers........they were told of suspicions and never acted on them, disgusting!!!!
They should be charged they are guilty by association. If they had not been in the positions they were in (association) she would not have got away with it as long as she had.
because she's a woman.
I don't really get the staff that raised suspicions isn't that something you would go to the police with in the first place
THE ENTIRE MANAGEMENT NEED TO BE SACKED!!!!!!!!!
they need to be charged
“She was given a desk job in the patient safely department.” Wow
I get sexual affairs vibes between her and the management.
I know! Unbelievable.
Not even Jimmy Carr could make that one up!
It's messed up big time 😭😭.
@@bassc unless those who dare to criticize them.
I had a traumatic birth with my daughter and a midwife took her for a while so i could sleep i woke up and panicked but she brought her back for safe and sleeping. It just shows that we have to trust these people with our children to keep them safe and care for them and to think someone could murder newborn babies is unthinkable
I also hope that the investigation team gets any support they need after conducting such a terrible case
Whistleblowers need to go to the police first, before anyone with a vested interest in covering it up. And EVERYONE who deliberately ignored the Drs needs to be criminally charged with child endangerment, manslaughter or something appropriate. It is absolutely horrendous that management refused to bring in the police or independent investigators as soon as credible allegations were made.
You obviously have a very fairy tale image of the police and an even more naive outlook. Police never give issues raised on a good day. Do you honestly think the police would take the whistle blower with any seriousness.
💯 Right, Big Cover Up Went On With Letby,?? Wonder Why?
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Rotherham, they went to the police first ,second ,third annon .
I cannot agree with you more. Shame on the suits for protecting this psycho and enabling her to murder so many babies. They should be in jail. For life.
NO one is going to be made accountable for allowing so many deaths to happen. those innocent babies are dead and their parents will grieve until they go to their graves.
Doctors close ranks. Theres a serious lack of accountability in medicine.
She was probably paying into the union and those at the top would have been petrified incase they got sued ..
I agree. I’ve had over 12 years of being in medical care, and there are continual mistakes that no one ever gets chastised for, no one is ever accountable and more importantly nothing ever changes, it hasn’t changed with my poor health journey, it hadn’t changed when my grandma died alone in hospital in pain as she wasn’t given paint relief she was due, she was bullied, I was bullied, by ‘caring’ nursing staff, doctors who don’t listen, it’s all just lip service all the time, and the trauma that it leaves people with is too great. Healthcare when you have money is so very different. I’m so sick of the nhs.
@@perseus431they all stick together, you’re right.
@@perseus431 Before you carry on. Just know the media cover these stories because the end game is to privatize the NHS. The implication is 'well the NHS CAN'T FUNCTION'.
except that is not the case you will find psychopaths in any walk of life.
The CEO of the hospital needs to be given a life time sentence, the others senior management need to get 15 to 20 years to make this exemplary.
The hospital administrators should be charged with aiding and abetting in murder of the babies who died after doctors alerted them.
The hospital Director's who ignored the consultant's warnings must be dismissed and lose not only their positions but pensions. This was a monstrous woman who was murdering babies at will, those hospital officials who ignored the warnings from Consultants also have these deaths in their hands. My heart goes out to all the families concerned. Doctors should be in charge of hospitals not pen pushers.
I think the clot resigned. 🎉
According to the law, no one is responsible with their possessions or pension for their actions. So it's not gonna happen
if a bin lorry driver accidentally kills people he faces the full force of the law , but hospital directors appear to be a protected species. negligence is negligence whether by a cleaner or a surgeon. no double standards should be allowed.
No manager NHS or child social services when kids murdered ever been even charged.this is Tory Britain, full pay suspension plus early retirement 6 million pound pension
ARREST THEM
Whistleblowers must be listened to and protected.
Whistle blowers often are made to be the criminal, look at Ed Snowden. USA's most wanted
Everyone who has worked in health knows that whistleblowers get sacked, Maybe not immediately, but they are now a marked card and get pushed out. Management will go to levels you would not believe to cover their own arses. So the fact they covered this up does not surprise me unfortunately
In all these killer nurse cases the hospital's so terrified of liability continue to sweep these murders under the rug despite evidence and co-workers pointing the finger. It's disgusting and these hospital's need to be held accountable. 😡
Hospital management should also be arrested
Their turn may well come, during the upcoming investigation/enquiry.....
It's beyond belief that anyone could be so evil and even think about doing something like this. A cold, calculating psychopath.
Humans have always been capable of this evil
Don't forget cowardice since babies are the easiest targets
She knew what she was doing was wrong , even she portrayed herself as an evil horrible person, so I dont know whether shes a psycho or not , a psycho dont have second thoughts about the harm caused , precisely because they dont have them , they lack the moral brakes normal people are used to pump the moment these parasitic thoughts creep into their minds., so she seems to have a bit of conciensce but sadly not enough to make her stop , anyways psychopathy is a spectrum ranging from people affected by psycho tendencies to full blown psychos,
@@EstradaDuran-sg6co how do you know i was an incel dude? , what gave me away ?
Sociopath.
the neglect on the part of managers is unbelievable.
Indeed Xxxx
They need to be ARRESTED
If she ain't getting executed...than there is no true justice.
I think the doctors should be sued for Failing to have the Decency and Resolve to call the police themselves!!! SHAME
Disgusting behaviour by the Senior Managers here, and so typical of today's society where no-one seems to be held responsible and no consequences are suffered by those who transgress. Sickening. Those managers who CHOSE to ignore the concerns of her colleagues, should also be prosecuted. 😡😡😡
You think these people are bad and arrogant the story about a comatose woman in a care facility got pregnant with one of the people that was supposed to take care of her she was a native American woman who was put in the facility by her family a few years ago and all of sudden the staff discovered she was about to give birth and the punished the guy about two years later even with DNA proof they still allowed him to work somewhere else, as a result of everything,this happened in Arizona and it was I think last year that they finally had him arrested and I did try to get anyone else who would listen to me about the baby after that trash pile is out he can legally take the baby away from her family, and the facility decided after the legal wrangle of everything they closed a much needed children's hospital in order to save money the amount of people that are literally inhuman and they just care about reputation only same goes for sny organization that does thing's like this, what about the BBC hiding the fact that a children entertainer was a freaking pedophile and refuse to stop him until someone had enough sounds about right at this facility there and they're is thousands of not millions of the same people everything and they're not even going to do anything about it until.... And in Louisiana the court let a known child rapist take custody of his child away from his victim and she was threatened with a false police report if she said anything her daughter is the same age as she was when this thing raped her and he's friends with law and half the judges in Louisiana she finally came forward on a news show about everything she even admitted she had a fake ID and he followed her and guess, so many cases where the rapist gets custody of the children mostly in the USA all legal 🤦🏻♀️🤬😓😥🕊️🙏🌷☦️✝️😭 for those precious little angel's who died under her watch and we know where she is going asap 🥵🥵🥵🥵👹👹👹☠️💩
The management of this hospital has just as much blood on their hands as Lucy. They cared more about their reputation and job security than saving BABIES lives!!!! Lucy is clearly psychotic. What is their excuse?????
And their fat pay packets and bonus's.
As what David Morrison has once said, “The standard you walk past is the standard you accept”. It’s a shame the hospital management has allowed this killer victimised several innocent lives. They are as guilty as Lucy.
Clearly psychotic? Are you a trained psychiatrist or psychologist? Or are you playing the race card in a despicable way? She is murdering scum who killed innocent babies and you are defending her because she is white. How sick are you?
Exactly Xxxx
GREED!!!!!
Whoever has the heart to kill such innocent beings are monsters. Crime against children are so heartbreaking.
I appreciate your perspective, people are quick to conclude with little insight.
How is she allowed the RIGHT not to turn up for her trial at the end ? They should have dragged her by her eyelids .. showed no empathy or basic human rights for her victims what a disgrace .. I hope those in management are SACKED and stripped of their pensions
and she was like; Could you push the police car seat forward I had Knee injuries and the police all polite like; ok my dear Princess as you wish we'll make you comfortable do not worry; wtf
Agreed!
She should've had to sit for every minute of the court proceedings.
The hospital’s reputation was not more important than the lives of so many babies that have been murdered by this evil devil.! I hope she is never let out of prison
they tried their best to get her back on the ward..unbelievable....prosecute them
She will be dead in prison by inmates
The fairytale Beauty and the beast. This woman's case beauty is the beast.
Hypocrisy of modern UK. Recently woman who murdered baby deliberately in 3rd trimester ny taking abortion pills get out of jail. Feminazis trying to portray her as a victim. Abortion without questions asked legal till 6 months. Abortion in case of possibility of Down syndrome legal till birth.
And now their reputation looks worse than if they had sorted this out properly in the first place. Just pure laziness of senior management not wanting to deal with 'drama'.
This has to be a full Public Enquiry ...if not enquire the people who think it isn't viable. After 3 difficult births by CS by my good wife my Daughter very nearly died of Menginitis at a very early age. Alderhay looked after her ( After excellent care by the Countess team) and thankfully she fully recovered. Having been at the cusp of a child death I really feel for the famillys. We....the public demand answers off the "Perfect Untouchable" NHS. Most( But not all ) in that trade are angels, after this I don't trust the mangement 1 Jot!
There’s never only one nurse working alone in a NICU
This is criminal. The people responsible for this murderer staying in post for so long should go to jail.
As with many other female serial killers, people are surprised because of how seemingly innocent and normal they appear. Wolf in sheep's clothing comes to mind. So chilling
I was more surprised that she was not American 🇺🇸
I wonder if stories of her childhood/teen years will come out, was there something that people saw? Her parents what role did they have in keeping her employed there, what are there work careers - there is just so many questions to be answered.
@@feartheghostinme675absolutely not, bc the US is too litigious for this to happen. It can happen in the UK because they have socialized medicine. US hospitals are mainly for-profit entities, usually part of huge corporate IDNs (integrated healthcare delivery network of many physicians groups, outpatient & inpatient facilities). We have a tremendous amount of data & any anomaly is tracked in real-time. Attorneys & compliance officers also review it. If this happened in a for-profit hospital, it would go out of business, hence it would not happen in modern US facilities. There have been incidents with traveling nurses, home health aides, & so forth, however, since they are harder to track
thats the thing....
@feartheghost- WHAT?? Why? How strange to say that.
I’m in administrative management in an industry far less important than healthcare. These sort of accusation? I don’t care what it costs. I don’t care how it hurts PR. I don’t care about anything besides the need to investigate immediately. There is no excuse.
And jail the managers who disregarded the warnings.
The recurring dismissal of suspicions of infants being murdered is systemic psychosis beyond comprehension. Prison for those so called "managers".
The nurse gaslighted them. There are nurses who are put in pedestals because they are masters of manipulation and the managers think they do no wrong. The pets.
@@javayna2353 If this is all that is the problem then they should come out and say so, however I think something more coordinated and sinister is at work.
@@javayna2353
She doesn't have magical powers I promise. With all these signs and the persistent pattern of preventing the involvement of the police and effort to keep here on the ward there is just no excuse for the managers. Manslaughter.
I don’t see why they couldn’t be charged accessory and malpractice himself. And if that’s not possible, what about a personal liability suit against those managers. I am in the health field and that’s what I teach my students everybody’s responsible at the end of the day for proper care.
Pets!! Precious Pets - they can do no wrong. LOL I agree.@@javayna2353
The hospital executives and senior management should be held accountable. Especially after considering the past events such as Beverly Allet and Baby P etc, the safeguarding procedures that were put in place after those incidents, this should never have happened. In my opinion, they are as guilty as she is.
How many of the hospital executives and senior management will suddenly leave on holidays or leave the health system altogether to avoid being asked to attend a .... potential....public inquiry?
Within childcare in the UK, whistleblowing is not only encouraged, it is expected and is actually your duty at all reputable settings. If it were ever found that a colleague is behaving in a way that would put children at risk and you suspected it yet did nothing, you are also liable for prosecution should something happen. You report to a national body, not your employer so there can be no 'sweeping it under the carpet' as seems to have happened here! Why is a similar system not employed within an organisation as large as the NHS? Some of those managers responsible for some extremely poor decision-making should be held accountable. Their poor choices are directly responsible for the death of several babies. Isn't that manslaughter? Yes, there MUST be a public inquiry. Everything needs to be out in the open and those managers need to apologise to the paediatricians and anyone else who tried to alert to the danger that this evil psycho posed to those poor, helpless babies and their parents, as well as facing the consequences of their actions.
This is truly a very sad case especially for the babies that was killed by Lucy ,the parents and extended families that is mourning the loss.Praying for the babies that survived and hoping that there is not much damages done to them.May God give them peace in their hearts 😢
life could be miserable and perhaps you’re already feeling hopeless at times, but that’s not a justification to harm others. Hurting someone who has not done you wrong can never be justified. That’s just pure evil.
She wasn’t hurting, I mean good lord she was going out dancing and sending cards to the parents. Psychopaths don’t care.
@kcrob1977 💯 that's the epitome and definition of a psychopath. It's not remorse it's her completely disordered mind and the disillusionment to send letters to the parents. No matter what - the facts are is that she is void of empathy and awareness of others pain - in other words a psychopath. A truly sad case 😢
An infant to boot
ITS HILARIOUS THAT YOU ARE LECTURING SOMEONE WHO HAS LOST THEIR MIND. If she had logical thinking, you think she would've still done this? You're ridiculously naive and it's saddening
@@mingyuhuang8944 Nope. WHAT IS HILARIOUS AND SADDENING IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO THINKS THAT EVIL DEEDS LIKE THIS SHOULD BE NORMALISED, and what she did should be understood and justified as she was not thinking logically. And that the world should just accept that and move on. Easy to say bullshits if it didn’t happen to you.
Management are as responsible as she is as they allowed her to continue committing this dreadful crime.
If you have information to support your contention you should go to the police.
There is more than sufficient information on media for police to act on it.@@noelpucarua2843
They should be sacked for mismanagement.
@@noelpucarua2843they knew for two years about those twin babies. One was injected with air (into the bloodstream) and the other was injected with insulin. They KNEW that for two YEARS before doing anything.
If I thought my colleague was murdering people I would go to the police, not my line manager
Everyone is focused on the nurse..........where is the outrage at the hospital? How did she murder a minimum of 7 babies, had several people bring forward their concerns, and it still didn't get her removed from direct patient care???
Senior management should resign. It requires accountable and responsibility.
Resign? Nah, they need to be taken to court.
I can't get over the hospital Managers saying they are sorry, when they had several opportunities to prevent what happened. How do they sleep at night?
Exactly, they are equally responsible for allowing such a demon to go rampant on a killing spree. I am horrified that evil in it's purest forms come as a nice rosy, innocent looking woman. May "it" be punished and put away like the cancer that it is.
But Feminism and quotes are soo important..! Just follow the agenda despite evil women are haunting 🤷🏼
@@OmmerSyssel That's what's terrifying about it. You don't know what kind of quiet serial killers with innocent happy smiles institutions are hiring and hiding amongst our midst.
If the senior doctors were so concerned about the link between the increased death rate and Lucy Letby then why didn't any of them go to the police? Surely anyone that suspects children are being murdered would do that immediately, whether their boss says to or not. The doctors also have a duty of care and would be trained in child safeguarding and yet didn't raise the alarm to anybody else when they knew hospital bosses were ignoring them. Considering the inquiry won't be public and witnesses won't be compelled to give evidence they'll probably get away with it too. I'm not saying she's innocent but there are plenty of others who are guilty in this too that will probably, unfortunately escape the punishment they deserve and surely it's not true justice until all responsible are held accountable
had 3 kids and I was near a heart attack watching my missus with all 3...these medical people can be so cold in a families most vulnerable days..I am not the only one who feels this way