The management need to be in prison too. They protected her, even though the evidence was right in their faces. They also, made the doctors who made complaints, apologize to her. Simply outrageous.
There seems to be no justice for "important" people in the UK anymore, be it the management in this case, or the lying politicians who caused the entire Brexit. The management should have been given a trial too, absolutely
She got a WLO life sentence for each and every offence, including the attempted murders. This judge is making damn sure she never walks free again. Kudos to him!
And now the hospital managers who covered this up need to face jail time too. Absolutely disgusting how they tried to cover it up and make out she was a victim who needed apologising to. Send them down too as they're as guilty of murder as she is.
Agree.. I wonder how many of the deaths attributed to Letby were also due to the understaffing and excess patient load.. Letby is said to have cared for thousands of babies; Brit stats I have read put a high death rate of 5 per thousand, higher than the 2 per thousand "norm" indicating there would have been less than no deaths for the period in question not attributed to Letby.
These kinds of things don't just happen and certainly not in a good culture, clearly that entire place is toxic for this to have taken place for so long. A lot has been covered up for sure.
@@graemejoyce5629 By ONS statistics the death rate on the ward went up after she was removed from the ward. Many discrepancies, dodgy statistics and scientific testimony given by doctors (not scientists as is the norm). She was convicted on circumstantial evidence and if anyone believes it was as black and white as the press put forward then you need to look into how insulin levels and air in the abdomen can be caused by resuscitation attempts. I am not saying she didn't do it but the evidence was tenuous and it is possible she was used as a scapegoat for intrinsic and widespread failures in care at that hospital. At some point she will appeal and perhaps more of the true nature of the failures at the hospital will be revealed.
They themselves can’t be guilty of murder, but truly a serious lack of judgment, lots of denial, and probably trying to save face but in this case that completely backfired… if they have any empathy I’m sure they will feel the gravity of their decisions and how they could have stopped more deaths. That is punishment in and of itself.
Same sir I had a full term but very sick baby in NICU for over a week. It was a living nightmare, can only imagine a fraction of how these poor parents have had to relive their babies deaths again now knowing that they could’ve survived. Absolute monster. I’m so grateful we both were lucky enough to have actual compassionate and caring nurses help our babies. I’ve a healthy 14 year old daughter now. My heart absolutely breaks in half for these families 💔
@@Slaeowulf Absolutely. We can't forget that. Neonatal units are the safest places for at risk babies to be and the vast majority of staff give them the best care possible. My own neonatal unit baby is now a strapping 18 year old young man, but I'll never forget the feeling of just wanting him with me when he was in there.
How does a convicted killer have the right to not show up to her own sentencing? This is crazy and I’m pretty sure no judge would allow that in the United States.
@@yacovleviand I disagree with you. Why should there be any light at the end of the tunnel for someone like her when she snuffed out those poor babies chance at ever seeing any light at all & subjected them to eternal darkness? Even the death penalty would be too good for her. She should be given the Guantanamo style treatment on a daily basis & I'm normally against such things.
Checking up on bereaved parents and their facebook accounts? That is definitely sadism and extremely disturbing. She obviously really enjoyed doing this. True evil. Sickening!
@nicolad8822 It's kind of obvious if "the suits" knew, then doctors knew also...they should be struck off, the medical doctors. I'm aware the others aren't medical........OKAY.
The management people who allowed Letby to continue her murder spree despite her exposure by doctors should be prosecuted. Their professional licenses should be permanently revoked.
The irony is that the managers don’t need a license… they just turn up with a business degree or most times even without that. They have no regulatory body.
I’m still amazed that the doctors who were certain she was killing babies, didn’t go direct to the police when it became apparent that management weren’t acting upon the suspicions they’d raised. There comes a point where doing the right thing comes before being worried about causing a bit of a stir in head office.
@@RustyLongPipe Yeah its bizarre. If they were were sure they should of all signed something stating she should be removed. I've seen this work in other employment.
@@johnespinoza7730 - If they don’t have the death penalty in the UK, this needs to be an exception…. Imagine going through 9 months of pregnancy, labor and birth. Having bought a crib, car seat, clothes, etc. just for that motherfucker to just mercilessly kill him/her 😤
My sister died at 12 weeks to a chromosome issue when I was 8 years old. My family and I were devastated. I know it’s all relative but I can only imagine how much more devastated the families of the victims might be feeling feeling when they found out their babies were murdered. My heart goes out to you.
It's just awful. And some of them died so horribly and in a lot of pain too. It's beyond my comprehension how those poor parents can come to terms with what happened to their babies.
Believe it or not this isn’t about you or your sob story. Also your sister wasn’t MURDERED by the Nurse so it’s completely irrelevant. Every single fucking time something like this happens and it gets posted on social media there’s always someone in the comments saying “look at me everyone! Listen to my sob story and how much I’ve suffered! Give me your sympathy and caring too! I exist too you know?!” 🤦🏻♂️😑 Such disgusting, selfish, self centred narcissistic behaviour. Go post your sob story somewhere where it’s actually relevant and people actually asked to hear it. 😑
What's even worse is those who didn't die but have to live with life altering as such problems. Think I heard one of them has been left with cerebral palsy, that's awful!
I agree.. Every day thousands of children are murdered by their mothers choosing not to use easily available contraception ,but society tells you that it is acceptable. Could I suggest that Lucy is suffering from some horrible mental disease and the willing murderers of thousands of children should simply keep their legs shut or use freely available contraception paid for by me and others, the tax payers. Get off your high horse because you are no better
"Karma", "souls", "RIP" and prayer hands all in one line?! Pretending that *_real-world_* atrocities can be paid off in fictional realities devalues them. This happened to real people; it affected and will affect real people in the real world. (Only the religious can look at a tragedy and see an opportunity for a sales pitch.)
At one point this Judge sounded like his voice was breaking with emotion. Condolences to all the victims and families and prayers of strength to all of them xx
She should have had no choice but to appear in the courtroom and listen to the parents and the judge. She gave up her right to say no when she harmed the first child.
She would spend a comfortable life in UK women's prison. It's more like a day care with more facilities than prison. Prisoners get playstation in uk prisons I heard, what a mess.
@@blackpanthar906 if she had to be dragged in by guards, kicking and screaming and undermining the dignity of the court you’d be fine with that? If she was shouting abuse at the judge? Or mocking the bereaved families? Give this some thought. Is physically wrestling defendants into court going to end well? Also, “British prisons are like holiday camps” is ignorant tabloid nonsense. Stop believing what you read in the Sun and mail.
As a nurse myself it’s so hard to believe that a trained nurse would do this horrific crime Every cell in a nurses body is usually to care and help the vulnerable, not to murder them !what an Absolute nightmare of a human she is If there was a death penalty she would deserve it
As a neonatal nurse in the states, this case has completely shocked me! Idk how anyone does this. God bless these little angels and their families! Rest in peace little ones ❤
@@cheesball96 no you don’t, but I understand every aspect of a NICU and it’s shocking that 1. She was able to get away with it, 2. To know the inner workings of the nurse, patient and family relationship and choose to still do this and 3. To take an oath and still think this was best way forward for her. The thought of overfeeding, air embolisms or insulin injections to knowingly mortally wound these babies is mind blowing! Why? Why after several years of being a nurse? What changed? I think nurses everywhere are facing such difficult times but we have to look at why this happened and how to create workflows and procedural guidelines to quickly negate this ever happening again.
@@koricelestedesignsdefinitely the manager of the hospital at the time has now been suspended. I’m sure they’ll be a serious case review. It’s absolutely shocking the way this was dealt with. Rip poor babies
Justice won’t be served until management and those who brushed off the red flags are held accountable too. They could have prevented more deaths and they should be ashamed of themselves. 😢
@@Matt-bs9ym Matt this wont resolve things, violence begets violence. You need to calm down, what she did was horrible, she cannot be rehabilitated but death penalty will achieve nothing. Remember, violence begets violence, do not keep it going with your actions.
As someone who works in the NHS as a nurse. I think it is very important for employers to perform psychiatric screening for anyone working in healthcare. While it is true that there are massive staff shortages, healthcare employees hold human lives in their hands. I would not be surprised if there are a lot more cases out there that have not been discovered or covered up by hospital management.
The NHS is currently advocating systematic poisoning of the population. You must have seen the adverts. Big pharma are very happy and most doctors and nurses seem happy to comply nowadays.
This is one of the most professional judges I have ever seen. Calm, eloquent, and emotionless. He doesn't go on a personal tirade and spew out opinion pieces like we often see from Judges from the United States.
My daughter, born 3 month premature, spent 4 months in neo natal intensive care in the most serious cases bay. The nurses and doctors did a magnificent job. She's healthy today, she's 27 years old. I cannot forgive that evil woman for what she did. It's not my job and I would never do it. For the parents I have no words, because the pain and despair they are feeling, doesn't have words apt to describe them. Those words don't exist. I can only give them a mental hug from the bottom of my heart. I wish you all the best and to heal your pain. I'm so sorry. P.S. Please forgive my English, it's not my first language.
There was no other sentence the judge could have given her for this horrible crime. I hope she suffers every single day just like the parents are of these poor babies
You said it correctly @@Mark5mith it's an unforgivable crime. It is an unforgivable act in this life and the next, no restoration for this living soul.
It's terrifying to think that if she had only done this once, twice, maybe even 3 times or when she was switched to day shifts she could have gotten away with it. The hospital wanted to sweep any suspicion under the rug to save face. They only took it to the police when they were backed into a corner. This is what happens when you privatize what is meant to be a public service. Business mattered more than the lives of all those babies that were killed. This crime and the fact that it was allowed to continue speaks of a wider culture within the corporate public sector in the UK, public servants can do no wrong and they investigate themselves unless they are backed into a corner and it becomes more detrimental to them to hide the truth.
What has privatisation got to do with any of this? This was not a private hospital but an NHS Trust hospital - the envy of the World, so people keep telling us.
When a crime is suspected the police should be consulted IMMEDIATELY and, if necessary undercover surveillance/additional security put in place. This is not just a matter of professional incompetence is for medical personnel to investigate.
I thought the same Maxine. They could have put a hidden camera in the unit, while she was on duty. I heard that 5 paediatric consults notified and expressed concern over this evil woman to the bosses. They didn't do nothing for 3 months. They didn't take this seriously. Absolutely awful.
The judge is so well spoken through out his sentencing .I trust the managers will also be charged .They who made Doctors apologise to Letby and covered up delaying the police being informed .Their action would have save some . This is some justice and may those who closed their eyes be dealt with next .
I am glad you said that. Too many people on here are presuming their guilt. As you say the proper course would be to file charges and leave it to another court and jury.
@@AndrewStead-wv4pobro why blame God when you have free will, God gave us free will. You choose what you do with your free will, you can’t blame Him. Surely there is God if humans can’t punish her. Surely she will be punished by God. Moral laws exist because there is God. If there was no God then people wouldn’t even have existed.
My daughter died 3 days old of cot death in 1999. Ive never got over it. How will the parents of these kids go on. She needs removing from this planet.
@@steventotsrusselldj.Would have needlessly increased the emotional state of everybody. She is going to die in prison, that's what matters. Let her fade into nothing rather than sustain a celebrity status for her.
I remember reading about her years ago when she first got arrested and my wife was pregnant with our first daughter. It broke my heart to think about what those parents would have been going through with a newborn death, let alone finding out later it was potentially a murder and so could've been stopped. And now it's come to this - guilty and never walking free again. Properly scary character.
Serial killers are - especially those without empathy or remorse. I guess because most "ordinary" people (that is, psychologically ordinary - which covers quite a spectrum) simply cannot get through to them - it is as if we spoke different languages... no more like are from different planets, for people with different languages at least have intelligible body language.
I do not understand how it is possible that this filthy woman got away with it and was not present to receive the sentence for her crimes.She should have been forced to be present just as she was present to give her hypocritical and cynical condolences to the parents of the babies she murdered.
Yes but it would not have brought the babies back. I think it better convicts are present for sentencing but they cannot be forced, lest we have shambolic scenes in court - which would be distressing for all. Whereas someone sentenced to less might be "bribed" by threats of more rime in gaol if they refused to attend or misbehaved, there is little leverage over whole-lifers. Perhaps putting an Audio-video feed in their cell (with no off switch for them) and maybe a video camera might be the best alternative.
@@MiscellanyTopTechnically they can be forced to attend by the Court, and use of "reasonable force" is allowed, but a decision to do so is going to come down to the prison service as to if/how they can secure that attendance. No excuse to not make the attendance happen in this or other high-profile cases. Video link is also already an acceptable alternative to physical attendance at sentencing, so again no excuse for not doing that at the very least.
I know what you mean, but honestly would hearing her speak from a hymn sheet prepared by her legal team, expressing "regret" and "remorse", be any comfort to those grieving parents, I think it would just be patronising, empty, and vacuous words to follow etiquette of court proceedings. As much as we wanted her to be present to hear victim impact statements. I think she has already left the building in more ways than one.
My husband said she should have been executed, but I think spending the whole of her life in prison having to be isolated from other prisoners who hate her and want to attack her, and having to totally waste her life with no hope of freedom at all is a much worse punishment.
You can hear the judge's voice cracking near the end, I don't think anyone could've given that sentence without thinking of such disturbing imagery. What a tragedy.
I don't know how true this is because I was told this as opposed to it being reported, but apparently one of the managers retired from his fat pay packet after a no confidence vote after she was arrested and got his one million pound pension.
Turning a blind eye is what took place: The directors, management and the regulatory system failed because of arrogance to protect the system and not the patients, you have to ask yourself how can this go on and not be known or some form of knowledge about what was taking place was not known, the system failed these children and failed the parents, they must be held accountable. This is systemic problem to avoid liability.....
@@Bailiol Some have said what she did was 'inhuman'. I haven't been following this case but surely she is mentally unwell to be capable of doing this? ie (outside human norms)
They tried their best to cover it up. One doctor had to apologize to her because he raised his suspicions. Finally she's where she belongs in a horrible jail cell for life. Ameen
Psychopaths are bored, they need stimulation -think of her vile glee over her power ( checking out parents, on Facebook, etc). These people are truly aliens, with only outward human form
I wish we could have a world where people are friendly and peaceful, not a world of evil and chaos. Our world should be a place of hope, friendliness and love.
Now that she’s convicted, the public enquiry ought to focus on the corrupt NHS executives in the hospital and board who protected and apologised to her! All of this to the detriment of its patients and those who fund public services. They used HR rules and PC legislation to protect her, whilst damaging the very people these rules were apparently introduced to protect. This case speaks volumes to the issues with Britain currently. We live in a upside down society where the innocent are victimised and harmed and the evil among us are protected. Sickening
Very well said. This is not only in Britain. This is in every single corner around the world. And for whatever it’s worth, these family are at least are being some how vindicated, and given the voice they deserve. There’s no words to describe the world we live in these days…
Turning a blind eye is what took place: The directors, management and the regulatory system failed because of arrogance to protect the system and not the patients, you have to ask yourself how can this go on and not be known or some form of knowledge about what was taking place was not known, the system failed these children and failed the parents, they must be held accountable. This is systemic problem to avoid liability.....
This was incredibly hard to listen to, so I can't even begin to imagine how hard it was for the parents and family members. My heart goes out to them and I hope after this hearing they'll be able to start the healing process... I'm just wondering if a mandatory annual psycho-analysis for all and any staff member who works with vulnerable people, would make it possible to identify evil, sick and disturbed people like this?
One annual psycho analysis wouldn’t guarantee picking up this type of psychopathy, plus it would be costly. Senior management (The CEO at the time), needs to be held accountable for protecting her.
Excerpt taken on 14.09.2024.The daily Telegraph online: Dr Jayaram said the “only concern raised about Lucy was she had been exposed to so many deaths” and there was a feeling that “it might be traumatic for her”. When asked if he heard any suggestion that Lucy had been deliberately harming babies, Dr Jayaram said there was “no objective evidence to suggest that at all”. He added: “The only association was Lucy’s presence on the unit at the time. Anything else is speculation.”
I can understand that if only one doctor had complained, it might have been thought to be a personal vendetta against a nurse, but several of them?! Those in power really should have looked further into this much sooner. I really can’t understand why they just assumed she was the one telling the truth, when it was defenceless babies that were involved.
Why indeed. This is very disturbing. Cameras should have been installed and she should have been monitored. Shame on the NHS management. Pray for the families left to deal with this. All trust is gone. Dark days indeed. 🙏❤️
Stats of babies dying from normal accidental staff error were kept from the jury and no psychologist was allowed to review her diary to see if it was a confession or just therapeutic self blame writing as asked by her counsellor.
This is so sad for all the families and staff at the hospital as well as the jury who had to endure this case. I hope the families can take some small comfort that her life is now effectively over. RIP little angels. 🙏
Excellent speech. As a British with African roots and as a GP I am proud of the British judiciary system. The judge executed this excellently. I have never seen anything like this he is very intelligent and a great asset to the judiciary system
Yes and all of the psychopaths who work within the NHS in order to torment the vulnerable....There are some wonderful NHS workers of course, but many have a superiority complex and are on a power trip....
Turning a blind eye is what took place: The directors, management and the regulatory system failed because of arrogance to protect the system and not the patients, you have to ask yourself how can this go on and not be known or some form of knowledge about what was taking place was not known, the system failed these children and failed the parents, they must be held accountable. This is systemic problem to avoid liability.....
The evidence against this sadist is clear. Having been a nurse for over 42 years, and now retired, I am appalled at her behavior, which can only be defined as psychotic. I am not surprised by the management defending her, as I have seen this in my own career.......nurses working with low standards of care not even counseled for their behavior and allowed to even further their career whilst others work tirelessly and with true dedication not to receive any commendation for their efforts, save for the thanks of their patients. I have had the privilege of working with many of the latter. What does surprise me is that a cover-up had to have been created. Why did the physicians not go to the police themselves since this proved to be such a heinous crime? While I understand that not following the "chain of command" could very well have led to their dismissal from the hospital......wasn't it in the best interest of both the safety of the children under the care of the hospital and the family members to do so in spite of it? Surely this would supersede any fear of a loss of employment!
Psychotic is not the right word, nothing about this is psychotic in nature. This is evil in its purest form. Psychosis is nothing of the sort, it's a mental illness. Lucy is not and was not mentally unwell.
Ca n people like yourself stop misusing the word psychotic. psychosis is a serial mental health condition where u have hallucinations and delusions. It's very traumatisingfor the person. You mean psychopath. Not psychosis. Even then still, she shows no signs meeting the criteria for Anti social personality disorder. Can people like you stop using mental health and clinical terms to describe everything? To have ASPD or psychosis u need to meet criteria for the symptoms? U people need to stop assuming everyone who does bad things has these symptoms. She has no signs of ASPD other than lack orf remorse. You was a nurse but don't know the difference between psychosis and psychopath. K
This is not looking good for the establishment. Evidence is accumulating, among other things, about bacterial and viral outbreaks in the unit, incompetence of prosecution expert witnesses, abuse and mispresentation of statistical data and inadequacy of insulin lab tests and there are innocent explanations for the diary notes and internet searches. Maybe she was a normal young woman, with a normal friendship group, who actually cared and was doing her best in a badly managed unit with poor doctors and this is a witchhunt.
My heart goes out to all of the parents who entrusted their babies to the care this evil woman, Thankfully we do have some Judges who enforce the full force of law.
The Doctors who raised concerns, were bullied by the management. Were the top management involved? That Hollywood baby blood adrenochrome harvesting theory doesn't seem so off now, does it.
They have no feelings. They look on emotions as a negative part of legal machinery because a lot of legal people have little emotional intelligence. They "get off" on judging not understanding and they think the Law is above us all keeping us from perpetrating rather than it serving us. Legal system needs a good overhaul..
Now lock up those managers who chose to ignore the consultants/ doctors for fk knows what? They have blood on their hands and anyone else who turned a blind eye.
@Bootneck777 If they were told there was likely a psychopath killing babies in the ward, and they try to keep the suspected individual in the ward ignoring concerns of multiple doctors etc, they are responsible. Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
@@wedwardes..They already have the guy in charge resigned his job got a 1 million pounds golden handshake and then offered a higher position and higher wage in the NHS
This was the only appropriate sentence given British law. I don't know if we'll ever fully understand why she did this but she is right where she belongs. Hopefully she can fade from view forever and the attention she sought in life escapes her forever in prison. The attention should go where it belongs - on these beautiful angels whose lives she so callously took.
Suspicions no matter how unthinkable should be acted on especially where the most vulnerable are at risk. Rest in peace little babies. My deepest sympathies to the families 😢
Where these monsters come from is irrelevant, she would be a monster where ever she came from. Places don't make monsters, people make places. She alone is responsible for the creature she has become!
That's the problem, it takes the small minority to give the rest of the people living in a town or city the wrong reputation, take Rotherham as an example.
I hope now the families of those poor babies can hopefully try to find some peace. It won’t bring them back, but at least this monster won’t hurt another baby ever again.
Yer, this doesn't work. They have it in some US states but the problem is the defendant has nothing to lose. So they can shout, interrupt and argue. Typically they will just shout I am not guilty, make false allegations etc. In the US they sometimes even gag and shackle people, but then their groaning and movements make it all about them.
Hospital administrators and medical professionals surely need to be charged with some sort of criminal neglect and/or homocide. Some of the evidence during this trial has demonstrated time and again, failures to prevent harm, in spite of growing evidence and, at a minimum, looked like unfortunate coincidences that should not have been tolerated. I’m only late to these crimes, but the evidence I’ve heard in relation to Baby I, is absolutely horrifying and I cannot fathom how things were able to progress to baby names so far down the alphabet, it is truly shocking. The heartbreak and distress for these families at the loss and harm to these babies is unimaginable. At a minimum they must have some recourse to sue individuals/organisations. It will never bring back their babies or undo the trauma and pain for their losses. It will be an acknowledgement of the undue suffering and trauma facilitated in part by the organisations and practitioners in positions meant to protect and care for their babies. They absolutely failed in their duty.
I have nothing but the deepest sadness and sympathy for the parents of her victims. To have that ultimate trust betrayed is incredibly hard to comprehend. What a sad day.
She deserves what she gets my hear goes out to the family's she hurt my son was in a neonatal unit for 3 months when he was born and it was extremely difficult time and we put our trust in the hospital staff that took care of him and they was angels and I am so grateful to them what I can't understand is why she would do it all those helpless babies on the ward makes a normal person want to cry not hurt them why did she do it
When people argue for the death penalty for things like this; they forget to realise it will be a swift & easy way out for her. She deserves to be thrown into a cell to rot & suffer for the next 50 years!
She is a disgrace, robbing those kids of all of their potential and possibilities of happiness and joy. Condolences to the families and deep sympathy for the families with surviving children bearing lasting physical effects. ❤
Option 1) The judge and jury are right and she is guilty Option 2) This is repeat of previous cases such as Rebecca Leighton and Lucia de Berk, two nurses falsely accused of similar things. Sometimes the guilty are released, and sometimes the innocent are imprisoned. I hope the jury made the right decision either way.
@@Release-the-resistance So everyone around her was conspiring against her to make her take the fall for their own incompetences? Why then was she hovering around each bereaved family like a bad smell both in person and online?
@@DeadDave That's just false. We have been through that so many times but as you said that 6 months ago and there has been a sea-change in the evidence of this case, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Why? How does a human being do this to a helpless baby. She will have many years to contemplate her actions. Hopefully, she admits her responsiblity in these horrible crimes.
Why did management allow it to happen also. She is evil to the core and was protected by management. This is what happens when our NHS is being privatised by people who only care about profit and not the patients.
I once worked as a NICU RN early in my career. The nurse is always held to the highest standard and considered the most trusted of professions. This changed once during 911/2001 to our great firefighters. To all parents who know this horrific evil I am so deeply troubled and praying for nurses all over the world to stay away from the profession if you do not have goodness and love in your hearts especially caring for little precious babies who have a strong will to live. May God bless the parents and the siblings who do not have their brothers or sisters because of a very evil person masquerading as a NICU RN 😢😢😢
Those damn Hospital administrators should be taken to task and officially punished for their recalcitrant remissness. I guarantee in the US they would have been fired posthaste and sued for tens of millions of dollars
Agrees make the higher ups accountable for not taking this issue seriously. 1 death would’ve raised any alarm bells 2 deaths should’ve resulted an automatic investigation
@@dread1262 in this day of age you don’t often expect a serial killer being a nurse. But hey happy 2023 remember if the last 3 years were utter chaos expect the most unexpected to happen in the following years
Why’s that? They’re following guidelines. They have to remain impartial, courteous and professional. It’s not for them to state anything other than the facts established throughout the trial. It must be objective, no personal feelings or opinions. They then impose sentence as per the criteria set out in the extant guidelines.
I’m always amazed as to how judges can make a sentencing whilst keeping completely calm and unemotional - especially for a sickening case like this one. Yes, I know it’s their job to appear reserved and collected but on a human level, it’s remarkable.
Indeed. They are well established barristers in their own right, and have had very successful careers leading up to being appointed as a Justice on the bench. They’ve seen it all - over many decades.
It's literally the maximum possible punishment. Before someone says "Death Penalty", a whole-life order actually worse, because she will spend her whole life in prison and die in prison, which logically will mean she spends longer in prison than she would if she received the death penalty.
@@haventjotaclue What she’s saying is she deserves the death penalty, and she does. But not a quick death, a slow agonising hacking off of the head by a Mexican cartel.
This should be the death sentence NOT life in prison. A life for a life. Why keep her alive in the prison system and use up resources of the tax payers?
So, potentially 40-50 years in isolation as they won't let the other prisoners anywhere near her. Seems like a reasonable amount of time to ponder on the heinous crimes she has committed.
Her not being required to turn up to court for the victim impact statements, or for sentencing, another example of the too great attention paid to the perpetrators of crimes, rather than to their victims 😠😠😠😠
I hope the directors of the hospital that would not listen to the pediatricians get some punishment as well. They are guilty of derelict of a solemn duty.
I was 29 or 30 weeks pregnant when she was convicted. A terrible and upsetting case. My anxiety levels were already through the roof. I needed an emergency section in 2019 with my daughter being born at 36 weeks, I developed preeclampsia and HELLP syndrome. So for my second pregnancy I was super high risk, my placenta meant I needed another early section, planned this time and I was awake but still when she was convicted I burst into tears. I know this is a rare and upsetting case but I’ve been in the position of trusting Neo natal nurses and possibly needing it for my son in the coming months. He was born safely at 36+4 and did need Neo natal help. I cannot thank the staff at Warwick hospital enough. They are the reason twice I’m alive and I have two healthy babies. Coventry further assisted my son with CPAP for 2 days. This is the first time I’ve seen this video, I couldn’t stand to watch it at the time. My boy is 12 weeks old, Lucy Letby does not represent the true dedication and professionalism that exists in our NHS today.
Have you heard the news of the lethal bacteria infection that was in those baby units that no one reportedly mentioned at the trials? What can one do for Lucy? Surely, when such evidence comes to light her conviction could be overturned superfast??? Please help her if it's in your power.
This reminds me of a story my mother told me when I was born in 96, she said a midwife made sure no other staff was around and quietly told her "under no circumstances, do not let anyone take your baby to be given treatment, if they won't let you be present and make sure to double check what the treatment is for". Makes you wonder, how even on smaller scales, what some staff will do. I'm by no means attacking the good nurses, doctors and other hospital staff out there, but having seen a lot of questionable behaviour in hospitals, staff need to be given a safe space to report potential misconduct without threat or fear. I remember an older nurse looking worried just telling me I should speak to PALS after serious gross negligence was perpetrated that lead to me having a single orchiectomy.
The management need to be in prison too. They protected her, even though the evidence was right in their faces. They also, made the doctors who made complaints, apologize to her. Simply outrageous.
Agreed
Yes, they did and probably was her charms too.
Put them under the Jail.
If the nurse was a different ethnicity they would of been sacked straight away!
There seems to be no justice for "important" people in the UK anymore, be it the management in this case, or the lying politicians who caused the entire Brexit. The management should have been given a trial too, absolutely
She got a WLO life sentence for each and every offence, including the attempted murders. This judge is making damn sure she never walks free again. Kudos to him!
Now sort out the management who refused to listen to the doctors worries about her.
@@jake751chief exec is sitting happily in his £750k home enjoying his £1.5m NHS pension
One whole-life sentence means you are never coming out.
@@StephenC-1908Whole life!
She will die in prison.@@StephenC-1908
Those who covered her up and made senior pediatricians "draw a line" between themselves and this monster deserve a life sentence as well!!
And now the hospital managers who covered this up need to face jail time too. Absolutely disgusting how they tried to cover it up and make out she was a victim who needed apologising to. Send them down too as they're as guilty of murder as she is.
Agree.. I wonder how many of the deaths attributed to Letby were also due to the understaffing and excess patient load.. Letby is said to have cared for thousands of babies; Brit stats I have read put a high death rate of 5 per thousand, higher than the 2 per thousand "norm" indicating there would have been less than no deaths for the period in question not attributed to Letby.
These kinds of things don't just happen and certainly not in a good culture, clearly that entire place is toxic for this to have taken place for so long. A lot has been covered up for sure.
The hospital managers need to first be sacked then jailed
@@graemejoyce5629 By ONS statistics the death rate on the ward went up after she was removed from the ward. Many discrepancies, dodgy statistics and scientific testimony given by doctors (not scientists as is the norm). She was convicted on circumstantial evidence and if anyone believes it was as black and white as the press put forward then you need to look into how insulin levels and air in the abdomen can be caused by resuscitation attempts.
I am not saying she didn't do it but the evidence was tenuous and it is possible she was used as a scapegoat for intrinsic and widespread failures in care at that hospital.
At some point she will appeal and perhaps more of the true nature of the failures at the hospital will be revealed.
They themselves can’t be guilty of murder, but truly a serious lack of judgment, lots of denial, and probably trying to save face but in this case that completely backfired… if they have any empathy I’m sure they will feel the gravity of their decisions and how they could have stopped more deaths. That is punishment in and of itself.
As a father that once had a baby on a neo natal ward my stomach churns and heart bleeds for the parents 😢
I hope "once had" means you've got a lovely, healthy baby now. Congratulations!
@@Slaeowulf I have a lovely, healthy 13 year old now !!
Same sir I had a full term but very sick baby in NICU for over a week. It was a living nightmare, can only imagine a fraction of how these poor parents have had to relive their babies deaths again now knowing that they could’ve survived. Absolute monster. I’m so grateful we both were lucky enough to have actual compassionate and caring nurses help our babies. I’ve a healthy 14 year old daughter now. My heart absolutely breaks in half for these families 💔
@@Slaeowulf Absolutely. We can't forget that. Neonatal units are the safest places for at risk babies to be and the vast majority of staff give them the best care possible.
My own neonatal unit baby is now a strapping 18 year old young man, but I'll never forget the feeling of just wanting him with me when he was in there.
My little boy was in the Liverpool womens neonatal in 2014 and 15 this is absolutely heart stopping that she's done this. One absolute evil woman x
How does a convicted killer have the right to not show up to her own sentencing? This is crazy and I’m pretty sure no judge would allow that in the United States.
Or Australia
She should have no rights she is not human
Well what's the point when it's a judge and no jury of your peers trial?
Cowardice.
What ? Shes not even there ? Lol thats effed up
She is a danger to society and the judge is absolutely correct with her sentence
Hi Mike yep he is spot on she does not deserve freedom at all
@@andydixon2980 they meant with Lucy's sentence.
It’s a pity that the death penalty was not available to him to hand down as her sentence
It’s just a white wig. I’m pretty sure the judge identifies as “he” though.
@@yacovleviand I disagree with you. Why should there be any light at the end of the tunnel for someone like her when she snuffed out those poor babies chance at ever seeing any light at all & subjected them to eternal darkness? Even the death penalty would be too good for her. She should be given the Guantanamo style treatment on a daily basis & I'm normally against such things.
Checking up on bereaved parents and their facebook accounts? That is definitely sadism and extremely disturbing. She obviously really enjoyed doing this. True evil. Sickening!
You are so right. I was blown away by that.
That alone proves how sick she is & how she derived pleasure from her victim's parents' pain.
Pity theres no death sentence ,if there was shed be a prime candidate i think
She should never see the light of day again just a pity there is no death sentence
@@paulday4237 death sentence gives her an out, let her rot in a cell is better.
Hearing that what she did caused the infants to experience extreme pain just reduced me to tears. She truly is sadistic.
3203; Managers turned a blind eye!!! They should be criminally prosecuted!!!
Oh me too. I’ve watched and listened to true crime for years and never has anything shaken me like this. Poor little mites. How could she!
yes, it's unbelievable what she did to those babies, she needs to be 'sectioned!'
Don't be so dramatic.Tears?I don't think so.
@@nonsensetalk8953it's called empathy you clearly don't have it so you wouldn't know what she means
The managers who ignored this should be in jail.
💯 should be in jail also facing life
Again, innocent until proven guilty. If there are criminal cases to answer, yes there should be prosecutions but let us wait to see what follows.
They should be now investigated and struck off. Who on earth has any faith in that hospital now.?.
@@leaveittothedivaStruck off what? Most aren’t medically trained.
@nicolad8822 It's kind of obvious if "the suits" knew, then doctors knew also...they should be struck off, the medical doctors. I'm aware the others aren't medical........OKAY.
The management people who allowed Letby to continue her murder spree despite her exposure by doctors should be prosecuted. Their professional licenses should be permanently revoked.
They'll resign and get a £1m payoff and £1m per annum pension.
The irony is that the managers don’t need a license… they just turn up with a business degree or most times even without that. They have no regulatory body.
@@wedwardesIts a joke right !!!
I’m still amazed that the doctors who were certain she was killing babies, didn’t go direct to the police when it became apparent that management weren’t acting upon the suspicions they’d raised. There comes a point where doing the right thing comes before being worried about causing a bit of a stir in head office.
@@RustyLongPipe Yeah its bizarre. If they were were sure they should of all signed something stating she should be removed. I've seen this work in other employment.
May she receive justice her fellow inmates will bestow upon her ⚖️
She will be protected in jail ...
They can’t protect her forever someone will get to her.
I agree
@@johnespinoza7730 - If they don’t have the death penalty in the UK, this needs to be an exception…. Imagine going through 9 months of pregnancy, labor and birth. Having bought a crib, car seat, clothes, etc. just for that motherfucker to just mercilessly kill him/her 😤
Her fellow inmates will soon realise she is innocent
My sister died at 12 weeks to a chromosome issue when I was 8 years old. My family and I were devastated. I know it’s all relative but I can only imagine how much more devastated the families of the victims might be feeling feeling when they found out their babies were murdered. My heart goes out to you.
and your sister will look down on you and know that her memory lives on in you
It's just awful. And some of them died so horribly and in a lot of pain too. It's beyond my comprehension how those poor parents can come to terms with what happened to their babies.
Believe it or not this isn’t about you or your sob story. Also your sister wasn’t MURDERED by the Nurse so it’s completely irrelevant. Every single fucking time something like this happens and it gets posted on social media there’s always someone in the comments saying “look at me everyone! Listen to my sob story and how much I’ve suffered! Give me your sympathy and caring too! I exist too you know?!” 🤦🏻♂️😑
Such disgusting, selfish, self centred narcissistic behaviour. Go post your sob story somewhere where it’s actually relevant and people actually asked to hear it. 😑
Guess what bro.... your sister was a mongo
My condolences my friend.
May your sister rest in peace ❤
Killing a baby... the worst Karma possible.. purest innocent souls murdered.. my heart goes out to the families that are going through this.. RIP 🙏
What's even worse is those who didn't die but have to live with life altering as such problems. Think I heard one of them has been left with cerebral palsy, that's awful!
Bad karma indeed. She's going to be a huge target in prison. She'll be sleeping with one eye open for the rest of her life -if she lasts that long!
I agree.. Every day thousands of children are murdered by their mothers choosing not to use easily available contraception ,but society tells you that it is acceptable. Could I suggest that Lucy is suffering from some horrible mental disease and the willing murderers of thousands of children should simply keep their legs shut or use freely available contraception paid for by me and others, the tax payers. Get off your high horse because you are no better
"Karma", "souls", "RIP" and prayer hands all in one line?!
Pretending that *_real-world_* atrocities can be paid off in fictional realities devalues them. This happened to real people; it affected and will affect real people in the real world.
(Only the religious can look at a tragedy and see an opportunity for a sales pitch.)
One baby, was only a day old.
At one point this Judge sounded like his voice was breaking with emotion. Condolences to all the victims and families and prayers of strength to all of them xx
For real😢
She should have had no choice but to appear in the courtroom and listen to the parents and the judge. She gave up her right to say no when she harmed the first child.
Agree, but supposing she was laughing or shouting or constantly shouting abuse at parents?
They need to bring the death penalty back
HA..HA
WELL SAID SIMON.
Human rights everyone has them 😅
Now let's go for the fat cats that took her side they need to face the full wrath of the law
Totally agree.
@@trishsavage5790definitely
Ruin them
‘Fat cats’ - well said!
Take every penny from them, all their houses and all their possessions. Then make them live in a FEMA camp.
No bordering sadism. She is a sadist, delighting in her actions, reveling in them. Sick.
She speaks highly of you
i am not sure there were any crimes committed in the first place
@@paulrichards6894 you friends with the killer
@@terrytownsend5583 are you a troll??
Those that protected this vile xxxx should also face the same.
Is appalling that the murderer has the right to not show her face for her sentencing!!!
How would you make her attend?
@@charlespirate1 By driving her to the court in a police van.
She would spend a comfortable life in UK women's prison. It's more like a day care with more facilities than prison. Prisoners get playstation in uk prisons I heard, what a mess.
@@blackpanthar906 if she had to be dragged in by guards, kicking and screaming and undermining the dignity of the court you’d be fine with that? If she was shouting abuse at the judge? Or mocking the bereaved families? Give this some thought. Is physically wrestling defendants into court going to end well?
Also, “British prisons are like holiday camps” is ignorant tabloid nonsense. Stop believing what you read in the Sun and mail.
@@blackpanthar906but that doesn’t mean that fights won’t happen
As a nurse myself it’s so hard to believe that a trained nurse would do this horrific crime
Every cell in a nurses body is usually to care and help the vulnerable, not to murder them !what an
Absolute nightmare of a human she is
If there was a death penalty she would deserve it
Maybe… just maybe… it was a cover up for NHS negligence.
As a neonatal nurse in the states, this case has completely shocked me! Idk how anyone does this. God bless these little angels and their families! Rest in peace little ones ❤
You don’t need to be a neonatal nurse to be shocked by another nurse killing 7 babies.
@@cheesball96 no you don’t, but I understand every aspect of a NICU and it’s shocking that 1. She was able to get away with it, 2. To know the inner workings of the nurse, patient and family relationship and choose to still do this and 3. To take an oath and still think this was best way forward for her. The thought of overfeeding, air embolisms or insulin injections to knowingly mortally wound these babies is mind blowing! Why? Why after several years of being a nurse? What changed? I think nurses everywhere are facing such difficult times but we have to look at why this happened and how to create workflows and procedural guidelines to quickly negate this ever happening again.
Imagine being so cowardly that you only harm babies
@@koricelestedesignsdefinitely the manager of the hospital at the time has now been suspended. I’m sure they’ll be a serious case review. It’s absolutely shocking the way this was dealt with. Rip poor babies
Very sad and unfortunately not the first time, she just killed more.
She's going to die in prison, but I'd be very surprised if it's going to be a natural death.
don't count on it. Beverely Allitt is still alive, and that was 30 years ago
@@richardhunter132the prison will have her protected, she's already on suicide watch.
She's going straight on numbers and won't see a general population wing ever. She's got a massive target on her back...
Myra Hindley, Rose West, Beverly Allitt...they all survived and even prospered in prison. I don't imagine Letby will be an exception.
@@richardhunter132 Isn't she in Broadmoor?
I’m glad justice is served in this case. I feel so bad for the parents who lost their babies.
Justice won’t be served until management and those who brushed off the red flags are held accountable too. They could have prevented more deaths and they should be ashamed of themselves. 😢
Justice wasn't served. They should have the death penalty
@@Matt-bs9ym Matt this wont resolve things, violence begets violence. You need to calm down, what she did was horrible, she cannot be rehabilitated but death penalty will achieve nothing. Remember, violence begets violence, do not keep it going with your actions.
@@YKKY you're wrong. Zero reason for her to be alive.
@@Matt-bs9ym the likewise for you
As someone who works in the NHS as a nurse. I think it is very important for employers to perform psychiatric screening for anyone working in healthcare. While it is true that there are massive staff shortages, healthcare employees hold human lives in their hands. I would not be surprised if there are a lot more cases out there that have not been discovered or covered up by hospital management.
The NHS is currently advocating systematic poisoning of the population. You must have seen the adverts. Big pharma are very happy and most doctors and nurses seem happy to comply nowadays.
A whole lot of COVID plandemic cases for sure
how much do abortion doctors get paid hypocrites
Agreed.
Absolutely 💯 ditto to screening people working for the police.
This is one of the most professional judges I have ever seen. Calm, eloquent, and emotionless. He doesn't go on a personal tirade and spew out opinion pieces like we often see from Judges from the United States.
Thankfully our Judges in the United Kingdom are civilised and have class.
@@charlesedwards4160Thankfully most of our judges*
@@50milliondownthedraintonym16id delete your comments before you get doxxed little boy
That is because your judges are politically appointed and UK ones are not.
yea it weirds me out seeing how informal us judges are sometimes .
My daughter, born 3 month premature, spent 4 months in neo natal intensive care in the most serious cases bay. The nurses and doctors did a magnificent job. She's healthy today, she's 27 years old.
I cannot forgive that evil woman for what she did. It's not my job and I would never do it. For the parents I have no words, because the pain and despair they are feeling, doesn't have words apt to describe them. Those words don't exist. I can only give them a mental hug from the bottom of my heart. I wish you all the best and to heal your pain. I'm so sorry.
P.S.
Please forgive my English, it's not my first language.
Your English is magnificent btw!
Well said. You speak for so many of us who are outraged by this crime.
@@amphetaimee Thank you, Aimee. You are so sweet and kind.
@lawrencegoldworm Thanks, Lawrence.
There was no other sentence the judge could have given her for this horrible crime. I hope she suffers every single day just like the parents are of these poor babies
I'm not sure she going to do well in prison, it's an unforgivable crime.
You said it correctly @@Mark5mith it's an unforgivable crime. It is an unforgivable act in this life and the next, no restoration for this living soul.
@@gisfdlc9210God forgives all who truly repent
@@Mark5mithwe can only hope the staff make sure she doesn't die so it's never ending beatings by other inmates.
Yes there is, the death sentence which is exactly what she deserves!
It's terrifying to think that if she had only done this once, twice, maybe even 3 times or when she was switched to day shifts she could have gotten away with it. The hospital wanted to sweep any suspicion under the rug to save face. They only took it to the police when they were backed into a corner. This is what happens when you privatize what is meant to be a public service. Business mattered more than the lives of all those babies that were killed. This crime and the fact that it was allowed to continue speaks of a wider culture within the corporate public sector in the UK, public servants can do no wrong and they investigate themselves unless they are backed into a corner and it becomes more detrimental to them to hide the truth.
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So scary
Unfortunately ii's the same story across all our British institutions.
What has privatisation got to do with any of this? This was not a private hospital but an NHS Trust hospital - the envy of the World, so people keep telling us.
how would it have made a difference if it was a private or public hospital?
Horrible woman. She deserves to rot in prison
Very original
When a crime is suspected the police should be consulted IMMEDIATELY and, if necessary undercover surveillance/additional security put in place. This is not just a matter of professional incompetence is for medical personnel to investigate.
Have you seen the news about the behaviour of UK police?
I thought the same Maxine. They could have put a hidden camera in the unit, while she was on duty. I heard that 5 paediatric consults notified and expressed concern over this evil woman to the bosses. They didn't do nothing for 3 months. They didn't take this seriously. Absolutely awful.
I was surprised that there is not cctv over each incubator?
Managers to busy hushing up the medics....
I agree the management did not put into place the most basic child protection procedures
The judge is so well spoken through out his sentencing .I trust the managers will also be charged .They who made Doctors apologise to Letby and covered up delaying the police being informed .Their action would have save some . This is some justice and may those who closed their eyes be dealt with next .
Hi Helen crimes like this is so brutal and I am glad she got life in prison and the best bit is she will never ever be released. There is a god
@@chrisdawson6156 , if there's a God, then why does he allow evil like this too happen in the first place!?.
@@AndrewStead-wv4po no idea but when I say there is a god something good always comes out of something bad
I am glad you said that. Too many people on here are presuming their guilt. As you say the proper course would be to file charges and leave it to another court and jury.
@@AndrewStead-wv4pobro why blame God when you have free will, God gave us free will. You choose what you do with your free will, you can’t blame Him.
Surely there is God if humans can’t punish her. Surely she will be punished by God. Moral laws exist because there is God. If there was no God then people wouldn’t even have existed.
The Baby killer never even had the guts to show up in court.....
My daughter died 3 days old of cot death in 1999. Ive never got over it. How will the parents of these kids go on. She needs removing from this planet.
I agree. No place on earth for her. Jail is such bullshi* punishment for those tyes of evil people.
So sorry for your loss god love u .xxx
I dunno, getting abused and beaten by guards and prisoners every day for the next 40 or 50 years seems better than a quick death.
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That would be too easy for her. She received ideal justice.
The Judge is an absolute legend and so spot on - You Sir, take the biggest bow!
He didn’t order her to appear in court though did he ? Si in my opinion he is a snowflake.
@@steventotsrusselldj.Would have needlessly increased the emotional state of everybody. She is going to die in prison, that's what matters. Let her fade into nothing rather than sustain a celebrity status for her.
Bit of an over reaction. What else was he supposed to do with a serial killer?!
A legend???
Take a bow???
The judge did his job, no more, no less.
Justice was served.
@@steventotsrusselldj.That would require each and every affected parent present to be near her. Not a good idea.
Now get this hospital administration and the doctors above her into court
I remember reading about her years ago when she first got arrested and my wife was pregnant with our first daughter. It broke my heart to think about what those parents would have been going through with a newborn death, let alone finding out later it was potentially a murder and so could've been stopped. And now it's come to this - guilty and never walking free again. Properly scary character.
Serial killers are - especially those without empathy or remorse. I guess because most "ordinary" people (that is, psychologically ordinary - which covers quite a spectrum) simply cannot get through to them - it is as if we spoke different languages... no more like are from different planets, for people with different languages at least have intelligible body language.
I do not understand how it is possible that this filthy woman got away with it and was not present to receive the sentence for her crimes.She should have been forced to be present just as she was present to give her hypocritical and cynical condolences to the parents of the babies she murdered.
Yes but it would not have brought the babies back. I think it better convicts are present for sentencing but they cannot be forced, lest we have shambolic scenes in court - which would be distressing for all. Whereas someone sentenced to less might be "bribed" by threats of more rime in gaol if they refused to attend or misbehaved, there is little leverage over whole-lifers. Perhaps putting an Audio-video feed in their cell (with no off switch for them) and maybe a video camera might be the best alternative.
@@MiscellanyTopTechnically they can be forced to attend by the Court, and use of "reasonable force" is allowed, but a decision to do so is going to come down to the prison service as to if/how they can secure that attendance. No excuse to not make the attendance happen in this or other high-profile cases. Video link is also already an acceptable alternative to physical attendance at sentencing, so again no excuse for not doing that at the very least.
@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 Thank you very much. Cheers.
I know what you mean, but honestly would hearing her speak from a hymn sheet prepared by her legal team, expressing "regret" and "remorse", be any comfort to those grieving parents, I think it would just be patronising, empty, and vacuous words to follow etiquette of court proceedings. As much as we wanted her to be present to hear victim impact statements. I think she has already left the building in more ways than one.
Got away with it? She's going down for life!
My husband said she should have been executed, but I think spending the whole of her life in prison having to be isolated from other prisoners who hate her and want to attack her, and having to totally waste her life with no hope of freedom at all is a much worse punishment.
May Lucy Letby rot in prison and never have a days peace, evil beyond words
The management made the consultants apologise to her. Bring the management to justice
You can hear the judge's voice cracking near the end, I don't think anyone could've given that sentence without thinking of such disturbing imagery. What a tragedy.
Take away the pension and retirement benefits of the managers who allowed this to happen by ignoring complaints made by the doctors.
PUT THEM IN PRISON FOR LIFE ALSO.
I don't know how true this is because I was told this as opposed to it being reported, but apparently one of the managers retired from his fat pay packet after a no confidence vote after she was arrested and got his one million pound pension.
Won’t happen sadly. Despite their shocking lack of care, there’s so many people in the Uk who think the NHS are beyond reproach
Take everything from them and send them to a FEMA camp.
Turning a blind eye is what took place: The directors, management and the regulatory system failed because of arrogance to protect the system and not the patients, you have to ask yourself how can this go on and not be known or some form of knowledge about what was taking place was not known, the system failed these children and failed the parents, they must be held accountable.
This is systemic problem to avoid liability.....
It’s hard to fathom how someone can hurt a baby. Absolutely evil.
Hope the women in prison terrorise her
They will she won't last long
@@Bailiol Some have said what she did was 'inhuman'. I haven't been following this case but surely she is mentally unwell to be capable of doing this? ie (outside human norms)
@@Bailiolwhy you defending this monster?
@DaveG420,millions of medics are killing babies every day and naming it ''healthcare".Do you find THAT hard to fathom?
@@Bailiol and nothing more or nothing less?
She forfeited any rights when she killed the first baby, she should have been in court to face her sentencing.
Also I believe THE PEOPLE THAT CONTINUED TO ALLOW HER TO PRACTICE- even after many of her colleagues; bought up their suspicions.
They tried their best to cover it up. One doctor had to apologize to her because he raised his suspicions. Finally she's where she belongs in a horrible jail cell for life. Ameen
It’s just so heart reaching. Why? What on earth would make someone do such a thing? To the most vulnerable.
That’s what I want to know I couldn’t imagine doing such a thing to such an innocent soul
She is sick in the head thank goodness she will never ever be released
Yes, heart wrenching indeed, so sad.
Psychopaths are bored, they need stimulation -think of her vile glee over her power ( checking out parents, on Facebook, etc). These people are truly aliens, with only outward human form
I wish we could have a world where people are friendly and peaceful, not a world of evil and chaos. Our world should be a place of hope, friendliness and love.
I can totally agree with that
Now that she’s convicted, the public enquiry ought to focus on the corrupt NHS executives in the hospital and board who protected and apologised to her! All of this to the detriment of its patients and those who fund public services. They used HR rules and PC legislation to protect her, whilst damaging the very people these rules were apparently introduced to protect. This case speaks volumes to the issues with Britain currently. We live in a upside down society where the innocent are victimised and harmed and the evil among us are protected. Sickening
Agree totally, they should be charged with corporate manslaughter
Agree. Now for the enablers.
Parents should sue the hospital imo.
Very well said. This is not only in Britain. This is in every single corner around the world. And for whatever it’s worth, these family are at least are being some how vindicated, and given the voice they deserve. There’s no words to describe the world we live in these days…
Turning a blind eye is what took place: The directors, management and the regulatory system failed because of arrogance to protect the system and not the patients, you have to ask yourself how can this go on and not be known or some form of knowledge about what was taking place was not known, the system failed these children and failed the parents, they must be held accountable.
This is systemic problem to avoid liability.....
@@john.a.gonsalves3731you are correct ego and did not want to be provën wrong
This was incredibly hard to listen to, so I can't even begin to imagine how hard it was for the parents and family members. My heart goes out to them and I hope after this hearing they'll be able to start the healing process...
I'm just wondering if a mandatory annual psycho-analysis for all and any staff member who works with vulnerable people, would make it possible to identify evil, sick and disturbed people like this?
If a person is worried about someone's behaviour in any profession it is the managers job to look into it.
One annual psycho analysis wouldn’t guarantee picking up this type of psychopathy, plus it would be costly. Senior management (The CEO at the time), needs to be held accountable for protecting her.
He needs to be trialed, that would set a president and make NHS senior management take note.
precedent@@sighfly2928
@@jake751 Surely it is the responsibility of everyone
Excerpt taken on 14.09.2024.The daily Telegraph online:
Dr Jayaram said the “only concern raised about Lucy was she had been exposed to so many deaths” and there was a feeling that “it might be traumatic for her”.
When asked if he heard any suggestion that Lucy had been deliberately harming babies, Dr Jayaram said there was “no objective evidence to suggest that at all”.
He added: “The only association was Lucy’s presence on the unit at the time. Anything else is speculation.”
Well picked up Philip. Shows how flakey this doctor has acted.
I can understand that if only one doctor had complained, it might have been thought to be a personal vendetta against a nurse, but several of them?! Those in power really should have looked further into this much sooner. I really can’t understand why they just assumed she was the one telling the truth, when it was defenceless babies that were involved.
I would bet it happens many times in all walks of life especially the police ,education and the NHS.
Why indeed. This is very disturbing. Cameras should have been installed and she should have been monitored. Shame on the NHS management. Pray for the families left to deal with this. All trust is gone. Dark days indeed. 🙏❤️
They believed her because she was a woman
The management that knowingly protected her from investigations and hid evidence deserve to accompany her in her new journey for life.
Lucy Letby I feel is a scapegoat for her employers!!
Stats of babies dying from normal accidental staff error were kept from the jury and no psychologist was allowed to review her diary to see if it was a confession or just therapeutic self blame writing as asked by her counsellor.
And she didn't appear at the sentencing? How is that even an option? Guilty criminals should be dragged into the courtroom...
That doesn't work because they just scream they are not guilty and cause a scene.
@@davedavids57I understand why families want this but it could all go wrong - the person could laugh,shout abuse who knows ?
This is so sad for all the families and staff at the hospital as well as the jury who had to endure this case. I hope the families can take some small comfort that her life is now effectively over. RIP little angels. 🙏
Talk too much judge!!! Stating the obvious… just read the damn sentence!!!
Sad for some of them at this hospital . Not for various management and chief executive. Because money seems to be more important then a child's life.
Excellent speech. As a British with African roots and as a GP I am proud of the British judiciary system. The judge executed this excellently. I have never seen anything like this he is very intelligent and a great asset to the judiciary system
And now it is time to talk about the curruption in the NHS
Yes and all of the psychopaths who work within the NHS in order to torment the vulnerable....There are some wonderful NHS workers of course, but many have a superiority complex and are on a power trip....
Yep tally the list
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Turning a blind eye is what took place: The directors, management and the regulatory system failed because of arrogance to protect the system and not the patients, you have to ask yourself how can this go on and not be known or some form of knowledge about what was taking place was not known, the system failed these children and failed the parents, they must be held accountable.
This is systemic problem to avoid liability.....
The evidence against this sadist is clear. Having been a nurse for over 42 years, and now retired, I am appalled at her behavior, which can only be defined as psychotic. I am not surprised by the management defending her, as I have seen this in my own career.......nurses working with low standards of care not even counseled for their behavior and allowed to even further their career whilst others work tirelessly and with true dedication not to receive any commendation for their efforts, save for the thanks of their patients. I have had the privilege of working with many of the latter. What does surprise me is that a cover-up had to have been created. Why did the physicians not go to the police themselves since this proved to be such a heinous crime? While I understand that not following the "chain of command" could very well have led to their dismissal from the hospital......wasn't it in the best interest of both the safety of the children under the care of the hospital and the family members to do so in spite of it? Surely this would supersede any fear of a loss of employment!
She also had an affair with a hospital doctor! My parents are both doctors and they are obviously angry and sad at what Lucy Letby did.
Psychotic is not the right word, nothing about this is psychotic in nature. This is evil in its purest form. Psychosis is nothing of the sort, it's a mental illness. Lucy is not and was not mentally unwell.
As a nurse I absolutely would've called the police myself. I wouldnt of waited for management to get around to it.
Ca n people like yourself stop misusing the word psychotic.
psychosis is a serial mental health condition where u have hallucinations and delusions. It's very traumatisingfor the person.
You mean psychopath. Not psychosis. Even then still, she shows no signs meeting the criteria for Anti social personality disorder.
Can people like you stop using mental health and clinical terms to describe everything?
To have ASPD or psychosis u need to meet criteria for the symptoms?
U people need to stop assuming everyone who does bad things has these symptoms. She has no signs of ASPD other than lack orf remorse.
You was a nurse but don't know the difference between psychosis and psychopath. K
@@jenniferharper-christas4825 Was it not made to look like the doctors were bullying her as cover up?
This is not looking good for the establishment. Evidence is accumulating, among other things, about bacterial and viral outbreaks in the unit, incompetence of prosecution expert witnesses, abuse and mispresentation of statistical data and inadequacy of insulin lab tests and there are innocent explanations for the diary notes and internet searches. Maybe she was a normal young woman, with a normal friendship group, who actually cared and was doing her best in a badly managed unit with poor doctors and this is a witchhunt.
Spot on Len
MANAGMENT MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
It is very likely they will be after the upcoming enquiry and investigation.....
My heart goes out to all of the parents who entrusted their babies to the care this evil woman, Thankfully we do have some Judges who enforce the full force of law.
Beautifully cited your comment was spot on.
The Doctors who raised concerns, were bullied by the management. Were the top management involved?
That Hollywood baby blood adrenochrome harvesting theory doesn't seem so off now, does it.
my baby was killed by a nurse that got paid to abort it after i got raped at 14....whats the difference? abortion ward is in maternity ward hypocrites
I don't know how the Judge can hand down his judgment with a straight face!
They have no feelings. They look on emotions as a negative part of legal machinery because a lot of legal people have little emotional intelligence. They "get off" on judging not understanding and they think the Law is above us all keeping us from perpetrating rather than it serving us. Legal system needs a good overhaul..
Now lock up those managers who chose to ignore the consultants/ doctors for fk knows what? They have blood on their hands and anyone else who turned a blind eye.
Hahaha. They will resign on £1m a year pensions.
@Bootneck777 If they were told there was likely a psychopath killing babies in the ward, and they try to keep the suspected individual in the ward ignoring concerns of multiple doctors etc, they are responsible.
Ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
@@Bootneck777 no one is saying they are responsible for her , but they are responsible for their own shortcomings 😡 sack everyone involved ‼️
@@Bootneck777..Don't talk garbage all the management are responsible and should be jailed
@@wedwardes..They already have the guy in charge resigned his job got a 1 million pounds golden handshake and then offered a higher position and higher wage in the NHS
This was the only appropriate sentence given British law. I don't know if we'll ever fully understand why she did this but she is right where she belongs. Hopefully she can fade from view forever and the attention she sought in life escapes her forever in prison. The attention should go where it belongs - on these beautiful angels whose lives she so callously took.
There was a guy on talk tv saying he believes she's innocent and her sentence should be 30-35 year's. You got some really weird people out here.
Death would've been more appropriate
Trouble is, I suspect she’ll appeal, claiming mental health issues.. Premeditated murder, so hopefully any Appeal/s will fail
@@equinox95unfortunately a lot of men pander to anything with a vag.
I'm sure the feminists will start an appeal case for her soon too.
All she is now is a specimen to be studied. Nothing more.
Suspicions no matter how unthinkable should be acted on especially where the most vulnerable are at risk. Rest in peace little babies. My deepest sympathies to the families 😢
I live in Hereford, and she’s blackened our cities name . Disgusting. Poor vulnerable babies who were entrusted to her care
I don't think you should feel that. I know Hereford. The home of Bulmers cider.
Where these monsters come from is irrelevant, she would be a monster where ever she came from. Places don't make monsters, people make places. She alone is responsible for the creature she has become!
I also live in Herefordshire but I don’t think this situation reflects our city or the people of hereford.
You got the SAS to keep the proud name. And beefy boys
That's the problem, it takes the small minority to give the rest of the people living in a town or city the wrong reputation, take Rotherham as an example.
I hope now the families of those poor babies can hopefully try to find some peace. It won’t bring them back, but at least this monster won’t hurt another baby ever again.
TRIAL IS AN ABSOLUTE SHAMBLES
Absolutely, i can’t believe how people on here blindly believes anything and trusts this corrupt judge and the so called justice system
Why was she allowed to not attend the court. She should be forced to listen what the judge and families wanted to say to her. So disrespectful.
Yer, this doesn't work. They have it in some US states but the problem is the defendant has nothing to lose. So they can shout, interrupt and argue. Typically they will just shout I am not guilty, make false allegations etc. In the US they sometimes even gag and shackle people, but then their groaning and movements make it all about them.
Should have been dragged in by her hair.
@@davedavids57Yeah, agree. Anything that makes it harder for the parents has to be considered very carefully.
Put them in a sound proof glass box but with speaker inside blasting.
@@puppylove1985That’s what I say too.
Hospital administrators and medical professionals surely need to be charged with some sort of criminal neglect and/or homocide. Some of the evidence during this trial has demonstrated time and again, failures to prevent harm, in spite of growing evidence and, at a minimum, looked like unfortunate coincidences that should not have been tolerated. I’m only late to these crimes, but the evidence I’ve heard in relation to Baby I, is absolutely horrifying and I cannot fathom how things were able to progress to baby names so far down the alphabet, it is truly shocking. The heartbreak and distress for these families at the loss and harm to these babies is unimaginable. At a minimum they must have some recourse to sue individuals/organisations. It will never bring back their babies or undo the trauma and pain for their losses. It will be an acknowledgement of the undue suffering and trauma facilitated in part by the organisations and practitioners in positions meant to protect and care for their babies. They absolutely failed in their duty.
A "WHOLE LIFE ORDER" should be the sentence of EVERY cold, calculated murder in the absence of the death penalty in this country😠😠😠
I have nothing but the deepest sadness and sympathy for the parents of her victims. To have that ultimate trust betrayed is incredibly hard to comprehend. What a sad day.
She deserves what she gets my hear goes out to the family's she hurt my son was in a neonatal unit for 3 months when he was born and it was extremely difficult time and we put our trust in the hospital staff that took care of him and they was angels and I am so grateful to them what I can't understand is why she would do it all those helpless babies on the ward makes a normal person want to cry not hurt them why did she do it
something is very wrong here,so much does not make sense.
When people argue for the death penalty for things like this; they forget to realise it will be a swift & easy way out for her. She deserves to be thrown into a cell to rot & suffer for the next 50 years!
Rot ??? 3 square meals a day , TV , allocated paid work within the prison ❗️
Emphasis on the word 'rot' @@thornbird6768
@@thornbird6768I would still rather die than face that
Medieval treatment is far better
Torture is better
She is a disgrace, robbing those kids of all of their potential and possibilities of happiness and joy. Condolences to the families and deep sympathy for the families with surviving children bearing lasting physical effects. ❤
Option 1) The judge and jury are right and she is guilty
Option 2) This is repeat of previous cases such as Rebecca Leighton and Lucia de Berk, two nurses falsely accused of similar things.
Sometimes the guilty are released, and sometimes the innocent are imprisoned. I hope the jury made the right decision either way.
This was one of the biggest scams ever. She didn’t do it, it was yet again a failure of the system.
So she just happened to be present at each of the deaths and the mortality rate dropped as soon as she was removed from the hospital because…?
@@DeadDave She was a scapegoat.
@@Release-the-resistance So everyone around her was conspiring against her to make her take the fall for their own incompetences? Why then was she hovering around each bereaved family like a bad smell both in person and online?
@@DeadDave That's just false. We have been through that so many times but as you said that 6 months ago and there has been a sea-change in the evidence of this case, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
@@DeadDave Let me guess........because she felt misplaced guilt
Why? How does a human being do this to a helpless baby.
She will have many years to contemplate her actions.
Hopefully, she admits her responsiblity in these horrible crimes.
Psychopathy
No proof!
@@Bootneck777 Contemplation does not equate to redemption.
Why did management allow it to happen also. She is evil to the core and was protected by management. This is what happens when our NHS is being privatised by people who only care about profit and not the patients.
@@ellastarrr1st149 shhhhh
I once worked as a NICU RN early in my career. The nurse is always held to the highest standard and considered the most trusted of professions. This changed once during 911/2001 to our great firefighters. To all parents who know this horrific evil I am so deeply troubled and praying for nurses all over the world to stay away from the profession if you do not have goodness and love in your hearts especially caring for little precious babies who have a strong will to live. May God bless the parents and the siblings who do not have their brothers or sisters because of a very evil person masquerading as a NICU RN 😢😢😢
Those damn Hospital administrators should be taken to task and officially punished for their recalcitrant remissness. I guarantee in the US they would have been fired posthaste and sued for tens of millions of dollars
I'll hope it will not end here, because the hospital has been warned and didn't react fast.
Agrees make the higher ups accountable for not taking this issue seriously. 1 death would’ve raised any alarm bells 2 deaths should’ve resulted an automatic investigation
@@panthersherman453 i read family of babies are suing the hospital for what happen my dad think they knew what happen they saved her not babys .
Why isn't there more things happening. this entire situation feels staged
@@MichelleLohde-p8mis there something confirming thaf
@@dread1262 in this day of age you don’t often expect a serial killer being a nurse. But hey happy 2023 remember if the last 3 years were utter chaos expect the most unexpected to happen in the following years
Why does she do that. Killed 7 innocent babies. So horrible 😞
She didn’t kill babies. It’s all lies and she is an innocent victim of a corrupt system, NHS and so called justice system
Some of these judges need investigating themselves.
Why’s that? They’re following guidelines. They have to remain impartial, courteous and professional. It’s not for them to state anything other than the facts established throughout the trial. It must be objective, no personal feelings or opinions. They then impose sentence as per the criteria set out in the extant guidelines.
Especially this one, GOSS, Proper corrupt and that’s why he was chosen for this trial
Wow, what a monster. Someone like that should never see the light of day ever again.
I’m always amazed as to how judges can make a sentencing whilst keeping completely calm and unemotional - especially for a sickening case like this one. Yes, I know it’s their job to appear reserved and collected but on a human level, it’s remarkable.
Indeed. They are well established barristers in their own right, and have had very successful careers leading up to being appointed as a Justice on the bench. They’ve seen it all - over many decades.
Not enough she took lives little angels who are innocent😢 🤦🏽♀️💔
Not enough! So what would be your recommendation to make this enough according to you?
@@josebaez8451Letby should be fed into a mincing machine feet first.
It's literally the maximum possible punishment. Before someone says "Death Penalty", a whole-life order actually worse, because she will spend her whole life in prison and die in prison, which logically will mean she spends longer in prison than she would if she received the death penalty.
@@haventjotaclue What she’s saying is she deserves the death penalty, and she does. But not a quick death, a slow agonising hacking off of the head by a Mexican cartel.
@@haventjotaclue
Worst punishment for the tax payer who has to pay for the rest of her luxurious life.
This should be the death sentence NOT life in prison. A life for a life. Why keep her alive in the prison system and use up resources of the tax payers?
Unfortunately UK don't have death penalty, however I completely agree with you.
So, potentially 40-50 years in isolation as they won't let the other prisoners anywhere near her. Seems like a reasonable amount of time to ponder on the heinous crimes she has committed.
Sad truth if that nurse was of a different background the management would have acted differently. Those who know the environment will agree!
Oh boo hoo another black person moaning about imaginary bad treatment. Get a grip will you?
Does it mean that we have to pay for her care for the rest of her life (50 or 60 years)?
To hurt an innocent child is pure evil
Her not being required to turn up to court for the victim impact statements, or for sentencing, another example of the too great attention paid to the perpetrators of crimes, rather than to their victims 😠😠😠😠
They sympathise because they are perpatrators and pedators themselves.
I hope the directors of the hospital that would not listen to the pediatricians get some punishment as well. They are guilty of derelict of a solemn duty.
I was 29 or 30 weeks pregnant when she was convicted. A terrible and upsetting case. My anxiety levels were already through the roof. I needed an emergency section in 2019 with my daughter being born at 36 weeks, I developed preeclampsia and HELLP syndrome. So for my second pregnancy I was super high risk, my placenta meant I needed another early section, planned this time and I was awake but still when she was convicted I burst into tears. I know this is a rare and upsetting case but I’ve been in the position of trusting Neo natal nurses and possibly needing it for my son in the coming months. He was born safely at 36+4 and did need Neo natal help. I cannot thank the staff at Warwick hospital enough. They are the reason twice I’m alive and I have two healthy babies. Coventry further assisted my son with CPAP for 2 days. This is the first time I’ve seen this video, I couldn’t stand to watch it at the time. My boy is 12 weeks old, Lucy Letby does not represent the true dedication and professionalism that exists in our NHS today.
This is so heartbreaking 💔
Have you heard the news of the lethal bacteria infection that was in those baby units that no one reportedly mentioned at the trials? What can one do for Lucy? Surely, when such evidence comes to light her conviction could be overturned superfast??? Please help her if it's in your power.
Read the New Yorker article on it, the judge allowed evidence from Evans, whose work has already been discredited according to the article.
This reminds me of a story my mother told me when I was born in 96, she said a midwife made sure no other staff was around and quietly told her "under no circumstances, do not let anyone take your baby to be given treatment, if they won't let you be present and make sure to double check what the treatment is for". Makes you wonder, how even on smaller scales, what some staff will do. I'm by no means attacking the good nurses, doctors and other hospital staff out there, but having seen a lot of questionable behaviour in hospitals, staff need to be given a safe space to report potential misconduct without threat or fear. I remember an older nurse looking worried just telling me I should speak to PALS after serious gross negligence was perpetrated that lead to me having a single orchiectomy.
@@TheThoughtTankOfficial cared enough to comment 🤣
@@TheThoughtTankOfficial how original 🥱