How to Install Soffit and Build Bird Boxes: How To Build A Shed ep 14
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- Come learn how you can build your own shed! In this video I show my technique for building the bird boxes at the corners of the eaves and then installing soffit .
This video series will show you step-by-step everything required to build an 8' x 16' shed. Are you going to build a shed too? Mash that subscribe button to follow along!
Materials needed:
Framing lumber
Soffit boards with vents
Nails and screws
Tools required:
Clamps
Saw
Hammer or Nail Gun or Brad Nailer
Screw Gun
Tape measure
Carpenter's square
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Thank you. This is the best video that I was able to find on TH-cam about how to build gable end eaves, soffit and returns.
excellent video and I'm a female and I've been in drywall and tile setting all my life and this is very informative my problem is looking up because I get headaches but I have somebody that's going to help me cuz it looking up finishing sheetrock on my life and hanging it it's been tough but I love it I don't think it likes me anymore 😁
Finally landed on the video that defines and explains the gaps haha awesome video thanks for that and great build!
Love how you kept in all the mistakes and how you handled them . Thank you
Thanks for watching!
This is pretty amazing brother. It givesr a new vision of building a wood box. I do siding but never have I done these.
Wow! This by far the best best diy video I've seen. Well produced, clean images, clear succinct in time and comprehensible. Thank you for NOT wasting my time. You've got a new subscriber! Oh, and I like your little bit of humor in dealing with the problematic issues of working alone!*** And damn fine work, nice to see the detail and finish on this bird boxes, most wouldn't have done that last cut. 🤣
Hey, thanks! I try hard to do exactly as you describe: don't waste time, show the right way to do things, and keep it lighthearted. :) Thanks for checking out my build!
Great video- agree with others that this is the best video on soffits and eaves I've seen.
Great video! Straight to the point and easy to follow. 👍
Looking good man. It's coming along nicely.
Thanks!
Excellent! Thank you! I am at this point now on my own shed.
Rock on!
thank you so much this is a fantastic video I greatly appreciate it now I got to get it completed
watching your video inspired me to take on this item in my remodel! thank you!
Awesome! I'd love to hear about how your remodel works out - Good luck!
I never seen soffits like that in one long panel. Cool
I recommend using the rule keep body parts at least the length of the fastener away from the nose of the nailer - in any direction. Think of a sphere with a radius the length of the fastener, and the nose is the center of the sphere. That's the clear space around the nose of the nailer. That keeps even nails that deflect out the top from piercing anything that hurts and leaks after piercing. Also, I would have kept the vent slots the same for both the eave and rake soffits - either towards the building or away from the building. I agree with other commenters: great video, very clear, easy to understand!
Great tips, thanks for watching!
Haha! 1:13 "I screwed up some 2x4s". I screw up 2x4s all the time. But seriously though, thanks for the well made video. The video in high speed with the overdub makes it much easier to understand without wasting time.
Nice video. Thanks for putting it out there!
Great job.!!!
Great video, very well explained
also you screwed it off I like that so much better than this little tack nails the best video I've seen so far thumbs up👍 I like the way you did this much better than anything I've seen
Just what I was looking for thank you for sharing. 👍
You’re welcome 😊
I’ve done thousands of eaves in my time as a Chippy , you said you never done before? I reckon that’s a great video 👌
Yup, first time! I did do a bunch of research first, so I wasn’t making it up as I went or anything. Thanks for watching!!
Awesome video!!
Thank you - this was very helpful :-)
Very good job 👍
After a couple more rewatches I think I can do this on my shed now. Thank you.
I’m happy to try to answer questions that come up for you during your build. Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY What material type did you use for the soffit ? I'm researching the benefits of each.
It’s vented soffit from LP. All the soffit, siding, and trim are LP products. It’s essentially pressed fiberboard, is easy to work with, and was readily available in my area at a local contractor building supply place.
@@AmplifyDIY Thank you for the help.
Great video 👍👍👍
Nice. I wish I had this 25 yrs ago when I built my house. My soffit/eaves are a debacle. Mistake #1 ---- no subfascia installed. Just 1X fascia (cedar) attached to 2x8 rafter tails. #2 --- rake is same. #3 --- listened to a contractor husband of a coworker who said to vent bathrooms to soffits for less headache on roof.
Now it's time for a reroof and time to make all this get done right or just better. Thanks!
Vent bathrooms to soffits!?! 😬
Good instructions
You did an outstanding job great video
Thanks for watching!
Thank you
Thanks for the information. I've just subscribed 👍
Nice
Good Job.
Thanks!
That's a serious shed.
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Love it! Perfect for what i need. What was the type of product you installed with your helper ? after it fell
Nice work, what type of wood did.you use for the facia?
You mentioned your ledger board was 2x4 and the facia was 2x6. What size board did you add to the bottom of the 2x4 ledger? Also, how do you like the one-piece soffits you used?
Realize this is an older video but you just saved me some major headaches and cash. Trying to rehab a 70 year old detached garage that doesn’t have any soffit installed. Once I deal with the asbestos shingles it should be a breeze
Good luck with the garage! You got this!
I'm happy your son helped you.
My wife forbids our kids to help me so she is helping me fix our fence.
I think it's especially important for my kids to learn how to do things like this... not only because I teach them how to safely use tools and do the work, but also because it helps de-mystify projects like this and instills some confidence in them that they can do it too.
Best of luck with your fence!
Awesome ..just fyi u placed the soffit backwards at the end the bends should be facing the 1×6
overall looks great!! Keep it up
Thanks for the tip! I wasn’t sure if I was putting them in backwards, but could not find clear directions online and figured it would be fine on a shed either direction. Thanks for watching!
Great stuff! Does it matter if the vents are "inboard", or closer to the edge? Another idea I've had is to put some metal brackets into which the soffit can slide against the wall, and then maybe you can tilt the whole thing up and nail it without the clamp, and possible "un-clamping". No doubt newbie-wishful-thinking on my part! ;-) Thanks again!
Yes, you want vents at outside, away from the house. It’ll be in manufacturer instructions. On a side note who was the manufacturer for this product?
Here in the uk we form a box end joint in between eventually allows water in......
is that trim a hardi product? same goes for the soffit? seems like a cementitious board. i bet those brad nails will be fine (as long as they are heavy gauge and stainless or galvanized), although for future you could add a couple of grk trim screws here and there. as it settles the brad nails might not hold so well.
I don't recall for sure if the soffit and trim are made by hardi, but both are a wood fiber product, not cementitious. The brad nails are galvanized, and so far (nearly a year later) there has been no shifting or settling of the soffit that I can see. I'll get after it with some trim screws any problem in the soffit or trim develops. Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for watching!
This is exactly what I needed! I'm putting up the same soffit and fascia and I've been having trouble conceptualizing the bird boxes. I didn't get a chance to watch the whole build...how did you finish the cut edges of the LP product? Great video!
Hey Tom! Any edge of LP stuff was sealed with a primer and then painted. Good luck with your soffit and fascia!
@@AmplifyDIY thanks.
Great job brother! I love the soffit you used, locally all I can find is the cheesy 1 foot pieces of aluminum that goes up one tiny section at a time. Where did you buy the soffit you used?
Thanks! I picked up the soffit at a local building supply store (not a big box store like Lowes or Home Depot, but more of a contractor supply place). In my area there are 2 main places to look for it: Franklin Building Supply, and BMC West. These are common in the western US, but depending where you are you may have to find it somewhere else.
The soffit is from LP, and you can use their website to see who stocks it near you: lpcorp.com/where-to-buy?sellerType=home-center&sellerType=dealer-lumberyard&sellerType=distributor
Specifically it's the "Vented Soffit" product.
Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY Wow, thanks for the speedy and comprehensive reply sir!
Awesome! Where you installed the birdbox piece and there is a seam, did you have to caulk that gap in at all in fear of water?
I didn’t caulk it, but you bring up a good point. Maybe I should. I’ll go check those seams today after work and see how they look after nearly a year. Good tip!
@@AmplifyDIY it looks great!!!!
wat type of hearing protection do you use?
Are bird boxes required? I've seen some new construction homes without them and the roofline looks much more clean to me. I would like to remove the ones on my house but don't know where to start or if it's a bad idea.. 🤷 help?
Hi Michelle! Bird boxes are not "required", but are a design element chosen by whomever is designing/building the structure. My home was built with them, so I mimicked that in my shed. Now, removing bird boxes will be .... tricky, as in order to do so you'll have to make pretty substantial changes to your roof/eaves/walls. Thanks for watching!
Can you please share your nailgun model and nail part number size angle.and everything??
Was the soffit board cut to size depth wise? in other words, when you built your roof, I would imagine you had to know early on what depth to build those eaves based on the size of the soffit board. Did you plan that far in advance that you knew the size of the soffit board and build your roof overhang accordingly?
Great question! I did plan enough in advance for sizes, but the soffit was just too large from the factory - I believe it comes in 24" wide pieces, and that was just too wide for my taste for the overhang. I wound up trimming around 6 or so inches off the soffit.
what materiel are you using for your trim around the door?
It’s an engineered trim from LP Smartside.
I’m working on my little getaway building on my property in the wilderness. Do I need to use soffit (Vinyl) material to cover my soffits? Can I just use whatever like the Hardie board sheet siding that I’ll be using on my place? Could I use marine plywood?
Hi Jeff - you can use more or less anything you like. Just make sure it can breathe, as you need to allow air to exchange into the soffits so that any condensation has a chance to evaporate. Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY Thank you on the opposite ends Of the attic there are vents that are about 12” x 6” I’m hoping that sufficient. Oh one other thing does the soffit area it’s self need to breathe or we just attempting to make sure the attic breaths?
Hello I’m watching your complete build and would like to know what you used for the soffit? Also does the soffit recede a little under the fascia board? Thank you really enjoying the videos. Oh the is your trim called Smart Siding?
Hey there - thanks for watching! I hope you are finding it useful. :)
The soffit is a product from LP: lpcorp.com/products/exterior/siding-trim/products/soffit - I picked it up at a local contractor supply center called BMC West. I don't know where you are, but they are all over the western US. Google "Building Supply Center" or similar to find somewhere in your area that carries it.
The soffit does not go under the fascia board - it just butts up against the back side of it.
The siding is LP SmartSide in a cedar texture. I believe I used the 8" wide version: lpcorp.com/products/exterior/siding-trim/products/lap-siding - I picked this up from the same place I got the soffit and trim pieces as well.
Good luck with your build!
@@AmplifyDIY -- Another of those "engineered wood products"... :(
Some of us have had experience owning houses with that previous "engineer wood product" Masonite and are hesitant to use something like that again...
Masonite survived if it was not exposed to water or light... Which is a bit difficult to do considering it's intended use is on the EXTERIOR of a house...
One of the problems with most of the siding choices is that they are not all that friendly for the sole DIYer who does not have an extra pair of hands to help. I can probably handle about a 6-8 ft piece siding without any help... Those 14 ft ones need another set of hands...
@@jakeblanton6853 That isn't "Masonite" It's an OSB product. Nothing like Masonite...Older Masonite didn't have the additives that are in the newer versions of it.
@@fraydcat -- Time will tell... Some of us had bad experiences with houses that had Masonite on them (did ANYONE ever have a "good" experience?), so we are hesitant to use ANY "engineer wood product"...
@@jakeblanton6853 It's been at least 20years since the product changed...The Masonite you are talking about was from the 1975 thru the late 90's. The manufacture uses different glues and Boric acid to resist mold and rot...
I believe time has all ready told...It's 2021...
I’m enjoying these videos, what is the digit boards with vent holes, is it pre made or did you fully create?
Those are pre-made soffit boards. I believe they are made by LP SmartSide, and I think I picked them up at my local Home Depot or Lowes. Thanks for watching!
@@AmplifyDIY thank you
you used a brad nailer for the panels??? Please tell me you used stainless steel nails?
I used galvanized, then caulked the divots and painted over the caulk.
The angled board you referred to as a fascia is technically called a rake board. The fascia boards are the horizontal boards at the end of your eave and rake boards and diagonal on the gable ends.
Thank you for the correction, Cooper! I appreciate learning from my viewers. Thanks for watching!
Any reason why the vents were away from the wall edge on the sides and then on the gable theyre on the inside edge?
No particular reason at all - just a preference for what I thought looked better. Good question!
The work looks good, but there's not enough, step by step instructions for beginners!!!
Which parts did you not understand? I'm happy to provide more detail...
Oh wow!!! Thank you for being so honest.
Here I am. Trying to remember how poorly I can be with measuring.
How worried I am about this triangle magic square tool. Trying to start a project that's already past due.
But, cannot waste any materials. It's the way you mark the edges of those angles corners and such. I knew I would need to do something like that to help me.
In much shorter words. Thank you for helping me.
Now, may I ask you what kind of board or aluminum was that soffit you had clamped up? All of those strips and tin cutting had me worried.
How do I find what you had?
And it had holes in it.
Thank you so much.
Hi Marie! The soffit is from LP Corp, sells under the brand name "Smart Side". You may be able to find it at your local Lowes or Home Depot, but you may also have to go to a local lumber supplier. Here is a link to the product details from the manufacturer: lpcorp.com/products/exterior/siding-trim/products/soffit
Good luck!
@@AmplifyDIY you're awesome! T.y.!
Where did you get the pre-vented soffit board?
Hi Aaron - I believe I just picked it up at my local Home Depot or Lowes. If you can't find it there, a local lumber supply store should either have it in stock or be able to order it for you pretty inexpensively. Good luck!
You need to paint all the cut joint with a good primer on all LP product per there warranty
You are absolutely right, of course. I thought I had, but now thinking back, I think I may have only painted all the cuts in the siding. Thanks for watching!
You mention about the brads to hold the board in place, yes those r wrong. Hardie in a few videos on here specifies the nail or screw type required as well as nailing spacing from edges 3/8 or corners 2 inches. Hardie is HEAVY and you need the correct head on the fastener!
You are right about brad nails with Hardie - but this was not Hardie, it was LP Smartside, which is an engineered wood product, not cementitious like Hardie. It's substantially lighter, and while brad nails are not the best choice, I've had zero problems with these in the several years they've been installed. If you are installing Hardie, definitely use a stronger fastener. Thanks for watching!
Hi. Is there a reason for the bird box? I saw one shed that just followed the angle of the rafter to add soffit. I'm not sure I understand the nature of the birdbox. Is there a functional use or is it cosmetic? Thanks in advance.
It’s mostly cosmetic. In my case, I had to match the style of my house for my HOA. Great question!
@@AmplifyDIY Cool, thanks!
Boy the soffit boards look a lot easier to install that cutting a lot of vinyl pieces.
Where can I get soffit boards?
Hi George - I found the soffit at a local lumber supply yard. If you google "Lumber Supply" or "Building Supply", you should find somewhere in your area which carries them. My local Lowes and Home Depot have similar products, but not in the exact sizes I wanted. Good luck!
Good work... but why vented soffit on the gable? Any reason? Solid piece would look better..
It's just what I had. Didn't want to have to go back to the lumberyard to order a couple of small solid pieces. I don't think the venting hurts anything, and the look does not bother me.
Bird boxes is right. Birds love them for nests.
Can the birds get in these bird boxes though?
The boards that hold the soffit are called lookouts. I just started watching your videos I guess those are rafters are 24 inches apart if they were on 16" could have done a 3/4 inch facia without that 2x6 behind it. I guess it's supposed to be how you can build a shed by yourself otherwise I think your son should be helping you all the time... maybe he's the one photographing
Your son looks like he is ready for paintball, or he doesn't trust ya with that brad nailer. :)
You might have considered using construction adhesive along with the brad nails as insurance. 🙂 But I’m an engineer so I overdo everything 😆
Hi Doug - if I were to build another shed, I may double up with adhesive as well as the brad nails - but it's been a few years since I built this, and it is holding up perfectly (so far). Thanks for watching!
Can you tell me what kind of soffit material that is?
lpcorp.com/products/exterior/siding-trim/products/soffit?gclid=Cj0KCQiA9dDwBRC9ARIsABbedBOE5gnNbprzEJvoYxE6-_zhCO-xODHlNDmfDF1hMR-pfbT85rWEmbsaAoj6EALw_wcB
Did you use the silicone paintable acrylic caulk on the cut end edges? Sorry but its going to absorb water and the edges will look terrible in years to come.
Hi Bear and Sesame - no, I sealed all the cut ends with primer, then used OSI Quad caulk: amzn.to/3hoEAer
@@AmplifyDIY AttaBoy! Nice work!
Were did you get that soffit material?
I'm pretty sure I picked it up at my local home depot.
are those drywall screws?
No, they are roughly the same size, but are coated with a weather-resistant coating for outdoor use. Thanks for watching!
could you identify what is the soffit material, wood ,plastic?
Hi there - the soffit is LP SmartSide - it's an engineered wood material: lpcorp.com/products/exterior/siding-trim/products/soffit
Not really the best method for building the bird box but it works. Also, you don't use vented soffit on the rake (gable) end since it isn't really doing anything.
Heya Cooper - thanks for the feedback. I used the vented soffit on the rake simply because I had it on hand, and didn't want to bother buying different non-vented soffit just for the small rakes. Having vents on the rake don't really hurt anything, right?
vents are backwards on the rake side
Brad nails are gonna pull out and recommend exterior screw. Not drywall screws.
Wow, the soffit almost sticks up dey an gets stiffy
Soffits on the eve sides don't need to be vented, and if they are the hole go towards the outside edge, the opposite of your install.
Good tip, thanks!
Great video! Bird boxes are a bitch. I would like to add that 1/4 crown staples are far superior to brad nails for horizontal surfaces. I specialize in home repairs and routinely encounter panels installed with brad nails that have failed over time. Vertical surfaces are just fine using brad nails, however for horizontal surfaces stick to 1/4 crown staples. The 1/4 inch crown connecting the two legs of the fastener ensure that it will not fail over time. If you have ever demoed soffit that has been stapled, you'll see. Great video though!
Good tip. Thanks for the feedback, and thanks for watching!
manufacturer recommends box nails with 0.27" head, 0.10" shank thickness, 1.5" long
Probably should of used a siding nailer
Yup, the right tool is always better than making due. Unfortunately I didn’t have access to a siding nailer for this project.
When is a bird box required?
I can imagine that wood doesn't last as long as aluminum fascia, I think I'd rather use aluminum. Looks like aluminum would be less work.
You may be right - I've never installed aluminum fascia. Wood is required by my neighborhood homeowner's association, and it matches my house. I think it will last much longer than I'll be around to see. Thanks for watching!
AmplifyDIY What kind and were, were you able to find that type of soffit.Thank You
It’s a wood-fiber based product. I don’t know the exact brand, but I picked it up at a local building supplier. Google for “building supply” and you should find a place in your area. Big box stores don’t carry soffit like this. Good luck!
The soffit on the rakes shouldn’t be vented
Yep. I was just thinking the same thing.
Why do u need a soffit?
How shall I accommodate my raccoon family who sleeps on my soffit?
Room service and turn-down service at night. 😂
WHY is there music playing along with the commentary???
Lol try more then one C clamp next time 😂😂😂
Or wear a helmet. :)
I thought that was called a pork chop return, not a "bird box." ?
Huh - I've never heard it called a pork chop return. Maybe it's down to common vernacular? Thanks for watching!
Phuc that to much work! But good video!
I hate renovations bird boxes are cool if birds can live in them
Sorry for the confusion - in this case, "bird box" is a roofing term that refers to the little triangular-shaped box that finishes off a roof line at the bottom corners. I have no idea how it came to be called that, but now that I think about it, I would not be really opposed to modifying my shed to actually house a few families of birds. Would they destroy the attic area?
@@AmplifyDIY as long as they can't get in. That would be cool, huh?!
Why a vented soffit on the front? there is no reason for it
Hi Charlie - sorry for the delayed response. I did it that way simply because I had left-over vented soffit, and didn't want to go purchase more of the non-vented kind for such a small area. If I was doing a much larger shed or house, you are correct - you don't need vented soffit in that area... but it's not going to hurt anything to use it there either. Thanks for watching!
Braid nails are too small for the soffit
You are probably right - if I was building something more substantial than a shed, I would have used something larger. These have held up great in this instance, though. Thanks for watching!
I'm currently replacing the soffits and fascia on a house that I own. The rain gutters allowed the fascia and soffits to get damaged. The soffits were that Masonite crap (basically cardboard) and it does not handle water very well. I'm using an 18-gauge brad nailer with the 1.5" staples in it and they seem to hold well enough so far... I'm using 5/8"x5.5" fir for the soffits though and stagger the rows like when you are putting down a wooden floor. I put a minimum of 3 of the staples at every "rafter".
Them Brad nails will rust and corrode.
I used galvanized. So far they have been perfectly fine.
Looks a little weird with your fascia hanging down an inch past your soffit.
Huh. I built it following the same pattern / design that the builder used on my home. I assumed they did that to help make it a little less likely that water / wind would ever get into the soffit. Thanks for checking out the video!
That is the way you it is done. Always overhang
assuming water gets passed the drip edge and on to the fascia, if it is flush surface tension would bring it on to the soffit = no bueno
But please don't use that weird ass fuckn music bro. Lol.
Heh. Next time I’ll go with some Mozart. Thanks for watching!
This guy doesn't know how.
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