How to Install Sub Fascia // Roof Framing Part 7
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- Jump into installing the sub fascia board with our construction guru, John. We will start with how to cut rafter tails, when you need to cut a bevel on your sub fascia, and the tips and tricks of actually installing sub fascia. After that we will take a quick look at how to add fly rafters and the blocking that goes with them. Also check out our description for helpful info and recommended tools for your job! This video is part 7 of 8 in our roof framing video series that is a complete beginners guide to framing a roof for a house. It is also a part of our construction basics training, a collection of content for those taking on construction projects for the first time. Find all of this content on our channel. There are a TON of videos covering construction projects from foundation to finish work to get you started on your next project!
Click on the timestamps below to jump to specific topics in the video:
0:00 - When to plumb cut your rafters
1:20 - How to cut rafter tails the right way
6:02 - How to install a sub fascia board
13:05 - How to fasten a sub fascia board in place
14:22 - How to install fly rafters
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Good demonstration. Thanks.
One of my favorite videos for what I am looking to do.
Finally someone who takes the time to do that right! Kudos to you 👍
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Your video is AWESOME . . . VERY CLEAR, IN SYNC INSTRUCTIONS WITH ACTIONS, and THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION . . . THANK YOU BUNCHES! BEAUTIFUL CONSTRUCTION!
This series is awesome! Many thanks
thank you for the detailed info
Thanks for the detail on the soffit install, been struggling with this cad detail for my new garage. Much appreciated!
Um, thank you, um, for this very, um, informative, um video.
I grew up in rural Minnesota and even this is umbelievable. 🍻
Thank you! I've been looking for a video on sub facia, and this is just what we needed!
This is really an excellent video series, thanks!
Thank you, helped me see my own project in a new way. Much appreciated.
Excellent content thank you .
Helpful info. Thanks.
The little ski jump you reference at the 7.00 mark is quite a desirable effect on steep roof pitches as it slows rainwater down when falling into the gutter which stops rainwater over shooting the gutter especially when raining hard. Most steep pitched Victorian houses built here in the UK were built purposely this way and aesthetically looks nice as swept eve feature.
I um really enjoyed um this video! You um really explained um the um details of how to um cut the rafter tails so they um all were in a um perfectly straight line.
Great detailed video!
Yeah this a good video!!
Thanks and Recommended shed planning in 2019
Good explanation
Straighten your walls. Straighten, brace and plumb your ridge. Cut your rafters dead on. Install alternate rafters. Put in lookout blocking. Hammer drill subfacia, shim to plumb. Gets easy after the first hundred houses.
Good four man crew can frame a simple gable roof in 3 days. The best framed roofs take 10 guys (and gals) a week or more... residential. I have worked framing commercial roofs for months. Sweet gig if you can get it.
Put your flying gable on before you raise the wall. Trim it out too. If you are good, you can tyvek and side it before you raise it.
Wood framing is an art, best performed by the young. It takes years to understand. It is good, those who become interested.
For a cathedral using a ridge beam and 10" or 12" rafters would you use a 2x6 for look out? It seems like if I used the other sizes the overhang would be too deep.
If your rafter tails extend more than 14 to 16 ft the chalk line will sag down the rafters. Hang a dry line under the rafters and mark each tail. Perfectly straight allowing for wind. I prefer a Squangle for this rather than a speed square.
Finally, someone who answers my question, and then some. I love the quality of work.
How did you cut the Facia on an angle with precision? The only thing I can think of is using a track saw or using a circular saw with a homemade 2x4 track nailed/screwed down.
Probably used a table saw. But a circular saw would do. Look at this video of a Japanese carpenter taking a slice off a board with a circular saw with a guide attachment. At a minute in th-cam.com/video/adkmODHPzYw/w-d-xo.html
do you have a video on removing aluminum trim on gable ends and use pvc for the rake while improving the beauty of the appearance?
Hey Great vids guys. My first question here though - hoping for an answer. I have one of those pre-fab sheds, you know - the ones that are built like crap? Yeah , those. Anyway I want to insulate the shed and put a small heater in for the winter. The rear and gables have no sofits but the front eave does. However the front eave sofit has a solid plywood panel in it so that there is now air flow up through the sofit into the rafter spaces. Why did they do that and can I just remove the board and also replace the solid sofit vinyl with vented vinyl? Is having only front sofits good enough or will I be sorry on the back roof later with mold/excess moisture? Sorry for the long question, I just wanted to make sure you understood. Thanks and keep up the great videos!
The one side of your gable overhang you end nail but what about the other side. Do you have to toenail that in? Also why do you not need any collar ties for your rafters?
It took me forever to find a video that uses the exact same circular saw that I have. Thanks!
Will youPlease tell me why you have your raptor scale hanging over the 2 x 6 at one minute and 49 seconds. Should you not have it lower? Or perhaps not hanging over the top of the 2 x 6? What changes when you do it your way and not my suggested ways?
What size were ur rafters? Ru gonna do blocking between rafters or no? I was told u need blocking between rafters I'm using 2x6s 16oc spanning 7-8'
Well done job, I live in Brazil, and I would like to make a roof like this in my house, and I would like to know, what is the minimum distance that should leave between the ceiling and the OSB, thanks in advance
Cleber medeiros,
Those measurements are determined by the climate you build in. Since some climates have drastic temperature changes (up to 100-degree differences) compared to some that stay the same all year round, those measurements can have a significant difference. I would check with your local code authority and find out what they require for your climate zone. Hopefully, that helps and thank you for watching!
Can you guys do a teaching on cathedral roof framing
7:16 could you cut at 8 inches plumb line, then cut from the bottom up 6 inch plumb line/notch to keep the slope of the rafter and still mount the fascia board leaving a full 8 inch fascia ?
Does the grain of the facia board cup toward the house or away from the house? Or does it matter.
Question: When you installed the lookouts on the eve... You mentioned that you cut them at 10", which makes sense given a 12" overhang (12 - 1-1/2 for the fascia - 1/2 for the sheathing)... but you left that gap around the sheathing along the gable rafter... Did you cut the lookouts 10-1/2" and then notch out 1/2" for the sheathing where they covered it, or am I missing something visually here?
I ask this because I'm doing a small duck house and I'm trying to decide how to lay out the rafters / eaves and the sheathing. On one hand, doing the sheathing first and then adding fly rafters on the outside, lined up with the edges along the roof profile seems easiest; on the other hand, doing the fly rafters / lookouts first, then sheathing seems like it would make the eaves a little stronger, but then I'll have to add an additional nailing surface for the top edge of my sheathing.
Thoughts?
@15:10 where do I get one of those speed hammers LOL.
If for some reason you end up having a wall that is not perfectly level, you can use a string line from end to end with 8d nails to adjust your sub fascia to be straight.
Wow.
Would it be possible to put this shed together without the floor? I am looking for an attractive shed for retrofitting over my pool equipment...
Wish you would’ve shown ripping the beveled edge on facia. Skillsaw or table saw?
@@daveb4194 Hey explained in detail why he used a 2x8. It was to provide a llot of meat for nailing the drip
When I hit a single nail that many times, I was yelled at. HIT THE FUCKIN THING, DON’T TAP IT. That’s how I learned.
Yeah, but you didn't choke up on it the way he did 😎
No Shit
And use a real framers hammer
Now show how to do it alone!
It's actually quite easy. 😀
Did you allow for the 1/2" sheathing in determining your 'fly' (rake overhang)?? With 10" fly blocking, it will only finish at 11 1/2". Further, why simple blocking instead of lookouts??
Had to reread your comment a couple times i get it though thanks
Do you have to cut the ends of the rafters?
good video. Many tips.
Guys, where are your work gloves? safety first!
Framer here : make your walls nice and straight. I use an extendable level and go from plate to plate. I don't sight it fir the most part I just level it.. if your walls are crappy your rafters will look crappy and not fit right on the ridge
Your "fly" rafter ("barge" rafter) should be hung on lookouts, not just blocked. Otherwise it's just hanging there on nails at each end and whatever you nail on through the roof sheathing. Nice series of videos... very instructional.
I just watched Roof framing with Larry Haun and he cut notches in the gable rafter and placed a block against 2nd to last rafter, in and through the notch..making the lookout overhang for fascia. I guess that's how you do it?
@@laurieclarkson9180 quantity versus quality. Its how all the new home s are being built. Cutting corners for profit
a nifty walk board for the ladders. Was that made with plywood and 2x4's. It certainly looks like it is.
If um was a drinking game someone would have liver failure. Great content otherwise.
Do you have too much meat of the rafter gone at the bird's mouth? It looks like you have a 3-1/2" seat cut on a 2x6 rafter. The IRC's D/4 code for rafters states that you can only notch 1/4 of the depth of the rafter. Your maximum seat cut should be no more than 1-3/8".
I think it's a shed? No occupants so codes don't apply due to the small square footage
At 16:19 cant you just take a foot and subtract fly rafter thickness and wall shearing?
How do you measure the angle of your bevel for the sub fascia board?
It should be the same as your roof pitch, right? I think if you use the pitch angle on your speed square, that would be pretty close. At least that's how I'm hoping it goes. I'm about to start.
Great video. Im going to use a nail gun tho. Call me lazy !
@@NSMConstruction I am a 40yr+ carpenter and I knew by watching that you use a nail gun for your work since you don't know how to use a hammer...looks like you can cut the last 6-8" off the handle???
on most jobs...if you can't drive a 12d nail in 3 strokes...they will fire you
hand driving nails is a lost art...
js
:D
@@docyoungblood9521 My father had forearms like Popeye's. There were no nail guns back then.
Does anyone know what pitch roof this is?
How did you cut the bevel of the fascia?
Probably a table saw... I'm not a professional carpenter, but given the tools that I have available to me as a hobbyist / homeowner, that is what *I* would use... You could probably do it with a circular saw and a straight-edge for a guide (which is also the basis for the "track saw" that I've seen for sale lately).
We're those 3" nails?
I don't know, are we?
In my humble opinion, if you made sure your walls were straight and parallel you would not have to run rafters long. Never cut anything in the air that you can cut on the ground. Also, putting the roof sheating on first makes putting on the sub facia easier. Just an observation.
What’s a ruff
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I like to cut my rafters on a while they're laying on a sawhorse instead of walking around on a walk board and taking the risk of getting hurt and getting saw dust in the eyes good planning and you can do all of this before before you even get started
Good planning and you can order them the way you want'em and cut nothing
@@darkone9572 For a price.
I'm currently replacing the fascia and soffits on a house that I own and marveling at the crappy construction that the original builder and his legal-immigration-challenged day-layborers put into the house. The rain gutters ruined the fascia and most of the soffits. The soffits were made out of Masonite (i.e. cardboard), so they don't handle getting wet that well. Much of the last foot of the roof sheathing was exposed to water because of the roof having what you called a "ski slope" at the edge, thus providing a place for water to pool since the roof is only cut on a 30 degree slope (at least that was about the angle that seemed to match for the end trim pieces that I needed to cut). I remember helping replace the roof on the house at our family's ranch probably 45+ years ago... The roof decking solid board lumber (shiplap, perhaps). It was probably 70 years old at that time and still in good shape. Because of it being solid board lumber, if a piece that was near the edge had rotted, it would have been possible to remove it and install a new board without having to cut out the plywood like would be necessary these days.
" legal-immigration-challenged day-layborers" 🤣😂😆💯
It would be much easier to perform these tasks if the scaffolding was lowered about 2 ft. And watch that thumb on your left hand. You were making me nervous as you were swinging the hammer. I bet that wasn't too fun putting the bevel cut on the 2x8.
As simple as this is some idiots will manage to eff it up or knowingly dot wrong.
As much as I wanted to watch this video”UM” I couldn’t take the “UM’s”!
awesome build, but please invest in a nailer. You're making me anxious lol
why no airguns?
Um
haha asshole
I counted 25 "um" in first two minutes. That's 1 "um" every 4.8 seconds!
Correction it’s ahmm
greg42864 ahmm I think u missed a few
Uuuuuuummm!
Why do you cut the bottom nub off?
So the tail (the titty) doesn't stick below the facia and the soffit guy doesn't haven't to hack it off with a hammer
your Facia Board is it a 2x6 ???
Its actually a 2x8 since a 2x6 wouldn't cover the rafter tails completely.
@@NSMConstruction Thanks for Reply
How about the RAFTERS 2x6 ? and Ridge Beam 2x8 ?
When is the best time to eat almonds?
In the morning.
You guys don’t miter the corner? Must be piece working.
"Shed"
At least he took the time to put that bevel cut on there…that’s time wasted with the half inch step where it wasn’t lined up with the top of the truss
Sped up it sounds like laser guns.
Cutting rafter tail off a ladder can be fatal, once you blow the framing so bad that your tails are goofed up, you need to keep trying or maybe try being a baker? Or go back to Pizza Pros
I’ve seen guys almost bleed out when they sink a blade into their thigh(65 stiches )
Umm, umm, umm. Umm? Umm! Umm...
Pneumatic framing nailer.
These videos are intended for volunteer builders. Foe safety and liability reasons, obviously.
Say ummm one more time
how many times did he say umm...
great info but man use a nailer to speed this up. or swing that hammer man lol
@@NSMConstruction may i know the reason why you don't use pneumatic nailer.
@@shalomjoseph5125 safety and liability reasons since they're intended for volunteers.
Just go full Larry Haun on him: one swing to set it, one swing to drive it.
I did the same with Stodoys :)
I did it with Woodglut.
Man....do not have a air pistola 😲😲😲😲😲
Umm who holds a hammer half way like that😂. Umm thank you. Umm keep safe
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Ridge board***********
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Um um um um um um good grief
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Wow how many times do you need to say ....Um 🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
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ah,,,ah....ah....ah every other word is AH
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Don't say ahummm
Couldn’t get past the 2 min. All the um um umm
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Does he listen to himself? Uhh umm uhhh uhhh uhhh uuhhhh uhh uhhh. Uuuuhhhhhh! Uhhh uhhh
Birds mouth supposed to be no more than 1/3 the rafter. Y’all weakened the hell out that roof