THE BEST SOUNDING EXHAUST - Tanabe Medallion - Innovative Mounts Issues
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I'm going to reach out to my contact at Innovative and ask if they can provide some insight on my mount situation. I'll report back here with any additional info.
It's been quite some time since my putting my motor in but if I remember correctly we had to leave the trans mount bolts loose until we got the motor mount in place then torqued it up. 90 si with a 95 delsol long block but intake and everything is still the a6 pieces and mine still leans forward on the motor mount (just went and looked lol)
Hasport has the correct mount for an EF chassis with a D series OBD1 and OBD2.
I just used innovative mounts on my hatch for a b swap no problems. Not the billet ones tho.
I love Honda so much when I'm not working on mine I like to watch videos of other people working on theirs LOL
Right man! Me too!
This setup has a good balance of exhaust note and SC whine. 100% better than the previous exhaust for sure.
I hear you on the subtle exhaust note. I got a noir on the sedan and it's so nice to have that little bark in the exhaust. Just enough to know something is there but not enough to get on your nerves.
Man you got all my dream setups! I say keep this build definitely a rare find these days!! Another banger of a video!!
Thanks man! You'll get there, keep doing you!
That garage is coming along so nicely! I remember when you didn't even have it and did the build videos about it! Just need a lift soon haha. Love the content keep it up brother.
Thanks man. I try to keep improving it a little bit more as often as I can.
Heck yeah the car sounds great 👍nice collaboration with Albert he is a cool dude he helped me with ef sedan
He's such a big help!
Thanks Vicente !
I've got the Tanabe Medalion on my S2000 and CL Type-S both and I love it. Nice deep sound without being too loud, I love it.
Love the way it sounds! Such a cool build. I have a d15b7 with a6 post mount in my CRX and the mount has always tilted forward like that as well, I just muscled the main bolt through the mount until it caught some threads lol
Nice. Looks like mine was done that way too.
Jackson has come a long way! Sounds awesome for sure.
Tanabe makes great products I had the Tanabe super medallion hyper spec back in the day I've searched forever to find another one with no luck just great sound
Enjoy your videos always. They have helped me with my CRX. Thanks for the tips also on products you have used.
Thanks for sticking around, appreciate that!
Sounds great! Good supercharger to exhaust sound ratio.
Probably one of the best if not the best option for a daily driver sport exhaust on Honda/Acura. Has such a good clear tone, minimal to no rasp and flows much better than OEM. HKS is also great with the blacked out piping for a more stock, while look offering a similar exhaust note.
I love your hatch btw!
Thanks man, glad the beaters have fans too.
I love the sound of that exhaust in that supercharger! Hope you get that motor mount worked out
Me too man, thanks
I dont know which process your using to install the mounts. I feel like ive had the same problem in the past. Install all mounts to chassis, leave them loose. Then install bolts from mounts to the engine, tighten them all evenly. Lastly, tighten mount bolts to chassis. I hope this solves your problem. Much love and keep up the great content.
Thanks for the input!
Tanabe medallion sounds insanely good, easily my 2nd favorite behind invidia n1!
Agreed
Hot Damn, those headlight intakes are trick AF!
man that sounds great and supercharge sounds great too. i think the next thing you need to do is get a 4 post lift in your garage, you can then park 2 cars in the same space.
Man, I want 2 of them. Been saving some cash for them.
Tanabe medallion is a real good sounding exhaust i had one on the sedan , its a quiet tone and not annoying especially for those of us getting older and cant handle that loud tone.
FR man!
Do you know the part number for the sedan exhaust ?
Na i dont
Exhaust sounds great. The Supercharger sounds like on old UK Austin Mini, those cars had a gearbox wine making that sound.
I would throw a cheap paint job on it, rattle can/Maaco.
Great video Jon! As always love the exhaust sound real good and mean at the track.
I recently picked up the revel version of this exhaust. Im very satisfied with it so far. Sounds very nice with my d series alpha header and test pipe. Perfect street exhaust that still gives good gains and no drone.
Awesome, those are fantastic!
Ahh man that thing sounds awesome!
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Have the same exhaust on my hatch , love how it sounds . Well worth the money . Wish I could find a supercharger for my gsr
If I see one I'll text you!
I was always a fan of the tanabes
Love the sound of that exhaust! Nice and quiet and just enough noise where its not annoying. Lol.
Super weird issue with those mounts though. Usually all the 92-00 d-series only needs the ef mount post and then the ef d series mount would sit fine.
I love it...sounds so good. Hopefully there's a solution.
Love Tanabe. Sounds & looks really good.
If you're struggling, that would baffle me to pieces.
Weird issue.
Are you going to get a lift? It's a complete life changer. Looks like your shop is plenty big enough for one.
I've been wanting one. Haven't made it a priority to get one though.
you need the two post braket from a 96 -00 civic or the original mount basically. and it does say that . well at least it said that on the hasport. but same issue i fixed with the two post mount. you will know you have the right mount because it will fit in the timing cover with no cutting.
err i mean original post mount bracket . there is plenty on google about that issue
No kidding? I thought the Ek 2 post had parallel bolts, not an offset pair?
Amazing sounding exhaust, I have a in idea cutback on mine with a b16a,I do love how it sounds just wish it was a tad bit quieter.
I’m envious of this car !!
I absolutely love this exhaust. For me it was between this one or HKS but I was able to purchase the Tenabe for significantly cheaper and I’m so glad I made that investment after having the DNA catback from eBay on it.
Awesome to hear man!!
How bad is the exhaust drone?
Pretty much non existent. You know you have an aftermarket exhaust but it’s quiet. Reminds me of a 2006+ Si stock exhaust. Loud when getting on it but pretty mild at cruising RPMs.
@@egsrhatchnick oh nice! thanks for the feedback.
I run a 2.5" Vibrant resonator and a Flowmaster Super HP2 and it sounds better than anything I have heard. In 2.25", the same setup sounds raspy and harsh. The HP2 easily sits behind the shifter and tuck well into the tunnel.
Nice, would love to hear it
@@GarageBuiltHondas Here is a video from earlier in the year. This is GoPro audio from inside the car. DB meters generally peaked between 85 and 90DB at 50 feet under full throttle. Now that I have a turbo installed, the car is too quiet and only peaked at 80db at the last event, which is quiter than a stock 8th Gen SI.
th-cam.com/video/GukEz8OIUAA/w-d-xo.html
Sounds really stout in that video, love it!
The OBD1 engine (D16Z6) will do the same thing on the front (drivers side) engine mount.
That is so cool 😎 I never knew there were sc for single overhead
YES,Innovation.
That one person who disliked the vid drives a Mustang
😂
I love this car
Thanks a lot, means a lot!
Sounds great! Makes me want to supercharge one
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Much respect keep it og d's and b's!
Nice classic look!
I use a eg d16 post mount and ground it down to make clearance for timing belt.
How? Isn't the EG post mount 3 studs?
@@GarageBuiltHondas iam a old fart and it's about 20 years since I did the swap. I bleave it was a sohc zc that I swap in and had to grind down the post mount to have a good amount of clearance between the timing belt and post so they don't rub. It's very close. I could be wrong about the post. It's been a long time.
That set up sounds sick af bro. Ima get that exhaust. I was debating it cause of the price and theyre always sold out but fuck it
It's a really nice sound. Definitely worth the price
Sounds really good bro. Race it against one of your other cars! 👍🏼
I plan on it!
I’ve got the Yonaka. Looks and sounds about the same. Nice catback.
I've heard a few they do sound nice.
I had a really bad experience with innovative’s mounts and customer service, long story short they blamed me for their product not fitting properly when the pictures I sent them clearly show a faulty/defective product. Ended up being out hundreds of dollars and spending hundreds more on Hasport mounts to replace them and I’d happily spend the money on Hasport again, no fitment issues whatsoever. Point being I’ve found it apparent that innovative does not put the r&d or pride into their mounts like their competitors. Hopefully you have better luck being as you have a bigger voice and more credibility than the average customer.
Sorry for the rant, felt the need to put that out there but on a separate note, that lil hatch moves man! Looks like fun and sounds clean, can’t wait to see more.
Also, not sure if you’d be interested but I could probably get you a passenger door and fender moulding for cheap. My local wrecking yard has more ef’s than i’ve ever seen in tact in one space and the guy that runs it doesn’t realize what he has
Sorry to hear about your experience, that's never good for business.
I could use some OEM hatch front bumper filler pieces, hatch taillights 88-89 or 90-91, doesn't matter. If yu find any of those let me know. I'll pay for your time/parts and shipping.
@@GarageBuiltHondas for sure man i’ll go tomorrow, there’s a Y8 head over there i’ve been wanting to grab so this’ll give me an excuse! I’ll be in touch
You on IG?
@@GarageBuiltHondas yeah @adolfgrove
There's no better exhaust for a Honda than the Mugen twin loop, but this one compares quite well to it.
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Love it! Jealous!
Thanks!
Sounds perfect, now of they made it for a 91 wagon...
Wagon gets no love in the performance catback world.
So when I had first installed my hasport mounts with the a6 they fit perfectly. When Insintalled the z6 I used the ef post mount and it kinda had a little lean forward like yours does. When I went back to the a6 block for the minime, the mounts fit perfect again. I’m assuming the actual engine block has a tiny difference where the post mount bolt holes are. I think that’s the issue here.
I’ve ran into a similar issue not long ago when swapping an obd0 d15b in an eg. got it bolted up, and the engine was tilted at a weird angle because of the driver side mount not wanting to sit flush like how yours was. Interwebs said it was a common issue since ef engines sit at a slight angle as compared to 92+. However one of my first swaps was a y7 in an ef hatch using stock mounts and post mount and I never had an issue there so idk 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for the input!
Nice exhaust. Even nicer cacti!
Old news. You've said that before. Lol
Bro this exaust doesn't exist anymore. My buddy orderd a new one direct and tanabe sold the company to some other company that is making them different. I think the resonator on the new ones suck. It's louder than my other friends true medallion. And louder than my yonaka. Oh and the new medallion doesn't fit perfectly. The tip sits too high and it rubs in a couple different places. Crx
No way, that's terrible. I believe they make the Revel ones now. I've seen a few people on IG I follow who have it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas oh damn thats the one I'm talking about. Yeah revel all over the box. My friends type r swaped crx has gone through two medallions. He got the last one spring time and was a true medallion.
My other friend ordered one from the tanabe USA website (revel now) and got the revel version for his crx. We both had zc's in our efs and my 2 year old yonaka was less raspy. Side by side.
I b20 swapped last week haha. Should have recorded it.
Good stuff 🤘
Sounds good man! Let me know if we have to make any improvising on the tune before the podium event.
During these runs it actually cut out during a run. Didn't do it again but cut off early in 2nd.
@@GarageBuiltHondas oh man. I wonder if it hit a safety cut , maybe temp ? We can definitely check it out man.
It was 8am yesterday morning. Only had punched it once before doing the pull for the video. I turned it off and restarted it and it didn't do it again. Might have been something like that.
I grinded my hasport mount on that side and drilled a hole for better support.
Interesting. What engine and which trans are you using?
@@GarageBuiltHondas d16z6 head y8 bottom, L3 trans third broke, so waiting for the hydro to cable covertion kit to come and see were I'm at with the back and side for the S20 transmission
You had similar fitment issue?
@@GarageBuiltHondas that whole side of my hasport mount didn't line up, I drilled a hole in the bracket on the block and taped it so it lined up to the hole it had
Thanks for the info. I'm wondering what the deal is.
Sounds good 👍👍 😍👍
I'm not even trying to be a dick when I say it sounds terrible. Then again I have a Audi S4 with the 4.2L V8 straight piped all the way back.
I also own a 90 EF Si but I've kept it in the garage for the past 10 years. 140k original miles and it's a 5 speed transmission and it's basically
in mint condition aside from the paint. Tons of ideas for it but so far I've left it stock.
Can't compare apples to oranges.
Can the post mount be maybe moved up and downward,couldt you maybe grind the post mount so it can shift?
Might have to grind it to fix it. We'll see.
@@GarageBuiltHondas with a tunsten burr ,its thick iron so could work
I appreciate your amzing videos i'm a honda civic car owner (1988) its an amazing car and from your videos i have learned alot..
I have this issue where my left wheel is so near the mud flap yet i have the radius rods tight equally on both sides...(Its about an Inch behind compared with the Right Wheel)..I am not sure what could cause this,not sure of a bent sub frame,lower control arm or radius rods are of improper (size 23inch)
Thanks you!
Yes, you are correct. Something is bent, just need to figure out what piece.
If you have the same issue with several known good mounts check the frame rails. Almost willing to bet something is tweaked
Nothing at all. Car is straight. Other have commented with the same issue.
Dream exhaust! One day I’ll get one. lol
Been a minute man. You still messing with your hatch?
@@GarageBuiltHondas Naw she just sits in the garage. I need to get it out and legal. Bought a house last year, rescued a dog, and started a media company, so I don’t have a lot of time (or money) to work on it like I’d like to. Don’t think I’ll ever sell it though!
I hear ya man. Adulting sucks. Lol. I have a lot less time these days also but still try to get outside once a week. Glad you still got it though.
@@GarageBuiltHondas Haha you’re not wrong! Glad to see you keeping up with it man!
How did the b series actuator work? I’m thinking on pulling the trigger on for my hydro gsr in a DA integra with a stock exedy clutch!
It felt great on the car, I didn't have any issues.
@@GarageBuiltHondas how was the pedal feel?
Felt like a cable clutch. Lol
The bolt holes on old mount look wider . Probably not gonna do anything but thats what i saw fron the video
It's unfortunate they don't fit well.
Seems like naturally aspirated? Sounds fast. Thanks for the content! I'm not very familiar with Hondas, so correct me if I'm wrong
It has a supercharger on it. 3lbs of boost. th-cam.com/video/UWNYuBi5EeU/w-d-xo.html
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks for the response. I like that setup alot. You're cars are classy and love the videos. Thanks for all the great videos.
Appreciate that Ben!
I think Tanabe was rebranded as Revel
Yes, that's what the make now. Seem to sound awesome too.
Sounds great….
Everything innovative rust including the mounts ,I have there mounts,cable to hydro actuator and the alternator relocate which all rust out and there alternator bracket cracks constantly ,finally threw it all away and upgraded to better stuff ,don’t buy there temporary crap
Thanks for the input!
Been looking for the same exhaust for my CR-X.
CR-X one is pretty expensive.
My 1989 CRX K24 is in need of a header and exhaust system. Any advice?
None. I've never owned a K swapped car. I'm unsure what exhaust system sounds best.
@@GarageBuiltHondas You can see mine when done. She's rough but almost ready to start. I just need some coolant hoses and exhaust. Maybe a few other odds and ins I'm sure.
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U know what kind led 3rd light u have cause trying find some for my ef spoiler to
It was on there when I got the car. Looks like a generic one that they drilled in. th-cam.com/video/h_ongF69rfY/w-d-xo.html
Back when i was real young, my dad and his brother did a y8 swap in his brother's crx si, he said they had the same issue. With stock mounts and stock a6 post mount. There's got to be something out there to get it to work properly.
Someone on here mentioned there's a different post mount I need.
@@GarageBuiltHondas that's so weird. I figured the a6 post mount would have worked. I wonder what post mount it is?
@@GarageBuiltHondas also, when you find out, please let us know, as i want to do a y7 block in my wagon and with what i plan on doing, I'm gonna need super stiff mounts.
Sounds AWESOME 💦
Ek3 👌 ☺
I had the EXACT same issue on my D16Z6. Bought the driverside mount to correct the angle issue. It did not. :/
Innovative also?
@@GarageBuiltHondas Yes, Sir.
Darn. So I wasn't going crazy. Lol
I have this engine mount problem on my z6 swapped wagon.
😥
Jon, is that just a universal led brake light on the wing?
Yes, previous owner installed it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas thanks, that's what I was planing on doing to stay legal
It isn't bad. I thought about trying to find a nicer more flush one but this one works out well.
Did you get the DA motor bracket and get it fixed yet?
I haven't. It's been fine. Just looks off.
what's the difference between the Revel and the tanabe? I bought the revel medallion for my 88' CRX Si.
New vs old.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I figured tanabe changed their name over. Still sounds good with a resonated de-cat. i'd buy it again if i had another honda!
👍👍👍🌵🌵🌵
Woot
I recently bought a b swapped ef. The wiring is kind of a mess and the car could use a tune. Do you know anyone in the NW FL area that could help me? Also love the vids
I don't. Might want to ask people who are into Hondas in that area. I'm sure they'll know of a shop you can take it too.
Do you any good sources for the Tanabe Medallion Exhaust?
Unfortunately no. I picked this up locally from a guy who ordered one for a hatch when he needed a crx exhaust.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I was surprised that you're still able to find these parts for the EF, nice upgrade!!
Hear the supercharger not the exhaust
Not sure if it's been asked but does this still have the cat on it?
No, a test pipe. There's a clip in this video where I show it.
@@GarageBuiltHondas ah ok. I wanted to hear it and skipped too the end. Love how it sounds!
i have an extra bracket if you want it just sent me a message where to sent it
i just swapped a D16y8 in to my ef and was running in to the same problem with my hasport mounts i had the D15 bracket on my d16 (i was running the stock d15 mounts till the hasports came in) and it would not line up for anything after talking to hasport there told me to put the d16 bracket back on that had the 2 threaded studs on it and the mound lined up perfect
What!! Really?? Which d16 bracket, which year engine?
Yes please, send it!
Jon Widmer
PO Box 13594
El Paso, TX 79913
@@GarageBuiltHondas i beleave my Y8 came out of a 96 delsol. i will dig it out and pile and put it in the post you should see it quick i live in san antoino
Man, thanks!!
I can confirm the y8 post mount will not remotely mount up to the innovative steel mount made for the 92+ engines. I called customer service and was told to use the 88-91 post mount with the steel mount with notch. I haven't mounted my motor into the car. But I expect to have a similar issues with fitment.
Thanks for sharing.
Please try Uel headers on one of th ef's , you won't regret it
I'd like to eventually. They sound pretty wicked.
Imo theyre a ricer header. They actually lose power over equal length.
Would be perfect if I'm a few HP over the class limit ina track car then use one to get back into HP/weight ratio. 👍
Quition witch year drive shafts do you use in the teal 91 civic.
It's B swapped so it depends on your intermediate shafts. For a stock 91, I'd use any 88-91 with the correct engine configuration.
@@GarageBuiltHondas I'm putting in a 92 Intagera gs 5speed I have the OG on the engine and gs hubs
Use all those parts
@@GarageBuiltHondas ok I need to get the outer shafts then ok thanks for help
not unless that post mount is bent
It looks fine. I think it's probably very difficulty to bend that iron.
The sc hatch a true manual car?
Yes.
There isnt a front mount?👋
No, they don't make one as it's not needed when using afternoon mounts with urethane inserts.
What kind of transmission and is it cable or hydro?
Cable
@@GarageBuiltHondas make sure to read the info underneath transmission detail for if chassis is manual or auto to correspond with correct transmission
PL3 3000. It's an Si/ZC trans for sure.
Your missing the titanium shim I think...
They don't make any shim unfortunately.
@@GarageBuiltHondas i know with my crx I got a thick titanium shim, I have the B series in my ED9 chassis
Well its more a washer than a shim
From Innovative? They didn't provide any such part. There's nothing on the website either. Can you send me pics through email or Instagram?
@@GarageBuiltHondas i.ll take a pic tomorrow mate, im in U.K else id of said dude 🤣 I had a D16A9/ which was a Dohc ZC gen 2, 1989, I then bought a B16a, so I bought the innovative 75a mounts for cable, the post mount I used the B16a for my now B20Z1 vtec, the post mount comes with an aluminium or titanium thick washer about half inch wash, I think its titanium, they probly get stolen 😂
Innovative pretty-much copied hasport