Great to see your bass player finally make an appearance! I love the Katana for guitar so might be tempted by this for bass some day. For now, I’m very happy practising bass at home through headphones (or very low volumes) using my Katana 100. Already sounds good enough to my ears and I can record direct out from it.
Just to clarify a point you made regarding the external speaker out. It's either or.....if you plug an external speaker in, it disables the internal speaker(s). Their thinking with only 160 watts is they want you to get the whole 160 watts into whatever speaker enclosure you use...whether it be the internal or an external cab.
For years I used a Roland Cube bass for practice and I liked the idea of having multiple amps and some FX at the típ of my fingers. This Katana concept seems to expand the idea but IME, the more bells and whistles,the more fiddling with the knobs and buttons instead of playing..that's the reason I sold the Roland and got a Hartke combo for practice at home. Plug and play. That's it. I use some FX on bass but I like to tweak them on the fly with their respective knobs instead on touching a screen or using a computer mouse. Anyways, it's a Boss product, that means that it's good 👍.
Seems like a nice piece of kit, but it's still a bit hard to tell how it really sounds from listening to a TH-cam video, despite the fact that I am using a pair of high quality studio monitors. I would love to hear it live in my room compared to my Hartke 3500 2 x 10 combo. The Hartke obviously has less features as it is over 20 years old, but it does kick some ass. Also, I question how relevant it really is to have all of those effects on a bass amp. I admit that I am probably a bit old fashioned here, but other than a bit of grit, I like my bass tones mostly pure in the mix.
I think James covered this well starting at about 7:40. It's not designed to appeal to everyone. It's designed to be a practical solution for gigging, practicing and recording. The Hartke 3500 weighs 106lbs (48kg). Who wants to drag that around to gigs, rehearsals, studios, etc? I feel the same way about the Katana for guitar. As much as I love a Fender Twin or Super Deluxe, they are super heavy, and super loud which makes them super impractical. The Katana gets me close enough for far less money and without the need for back surgery.
@@bretspencer Actually, I totally agree with you. I don't gig anymore and I was just wondering how the sound would compare in a live setting. When I got the Hartke, yes it was heavy, but that was actually a down sizing for me at the time. The Hartke replaced an Ampeg SVT with a pair of 8 x 10 cabs. Talk about heavy, huh. In all fairness though, back then I was gigging full time and we had the pleasure of having roadies to do the grunt work. I play mostly guitar now and I am fully satisfied with my Katana MKII 1 x 12 and a Nux MG30. I'm 69 and couldn't imagine lugging around heavy amps anymore.
I really like my Katana MK2 100 watt but it isn't loud enough. I use it strictly in my studio, and it is way awesome for that! I play in a loud old-school hard rock band. Our drummer doesn't tippy tap...he is loud! I think I'd prefer this bass amp to be in head form so I could use it in the studio and choose different speakers to play it through. 160 a/b watts is ok for rehearsal or home practice but frankly, it's just not enough headroom for a loud band. It should be kicking at the very least 300 solid-state watts for bass and 200 solid-state watts for the guitar. It starts running out of headroom and getting power amp distortion at about 60% on the master and to my ears, it starts sounding very thin and harsh at that point (odd-order harmonic distortion). As a guitar player, I'll continue to use my 100-watt Dual Rec half stack for live shows. As a bass player, I'm using a Trace Elliot Elf as a pre into a 2000 watt class D power amp driving 210's, a tweeter and a 15. As a drummer...please bring something loud enough that I can hear AND feel. Headphones make me feel very disconnected from the band so unless it is for recording...not gonna use headphones or IEM's. Some of us still like to "feel" it, loud and old school. All that being said, the Katana series is really nice and sounds fantastic. At home, my Mesa collects dust. The Katana is my goto for practice and recording. Peace, love, dove fellas!
I have the Roland DB-500, Roland Cube 120xl, Roland Cube 100, Roland Cube 30, Roland micro Cube RX, Fender Rumble 100, Rumble 75, Rumble 60, Acoustic 371, Acoustic 230/408, Ampeg 200T Head/Cab, Ampeg BA-112, Peavey Combo 300, TNT-160 and I need this Amp for sure, great in Studio
Need to see a good comparison with the Fender Rumble modeling bass amps, presets, and software. At the outset the Katanas seem more powerful (watts, speaker size).
just out of curiosity: did you get a katana 210? was it able to hold up with the 500w? could it be used in a Band with Loud Guitar&Drums - maybe even for small gigs?
Sounds good but I have a Fractal FM3 for my guitar and already fiddle with their editor for tweaking way too much. Just want something low maintenance you can tweak on the hardware quickly before any grey sets in.
Hey James? When I think Katana (Boss Rigs) I am at a loss why the editor software only works with Apple Product’s ie iPad or iPhone. Mmm. What about people who don’t. It seems to me that doesn’t make sense. That other people are left high and dry when people like yourself demo Katana products and don’t talk about it Mmmm…,
@@charleswidmore5458 i have a katana and the tone studio works fine on my windows computer as well as the katana apps on my iphone - so i don't know what wayne is talking about - maybe he meant android (here i don't know if there are apps and how good they work).
@@TheStudioRats On a more serious note, there's a few features on this which aren't on the guitar version of the Katana. Notably balanced line out and Bluetooth option. It's been 2 years since the Katana mkII came out, and the Catalyst has come out since and is getting a fair bit of attention. How long do you reckon it will be before the Katana mkIII come out, with the Bluetooth module option and (hopefully) improved stereo support? Maybe they'll even put GA-FC support and/or FX loop onto the Katana 50?
Personally, I'm fine with that. People who aren't interested in Bluetooth capability are catered for and don't feel they are paying for something they won't use and, for people who do want it, it's only $45.
I own a katana 210 and it CONSUMES 117 watts. So this COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT of 160 w rms is a Straight up lie STOP £UCKING LYING! It would push 60w rms @ best. This works because the 2 10 inch speakers are unusually efficient with low mass cones & big ass ceramic magnets BUT............ Despite this it sounds pretty bloody good. I bought the damn thing after all. And it won out against ALL contenders @ the price point available to me in Aust. The choice in the end was down to the Ampeg Rocket 115 & the Katana. The ampeg being the ONLY rocket range combo I liked the sound of yes, including the 210. I believe this is due to the Eminence designed 15 that is remarkably very nice @ the price. But the katana simply has a richer palette to create YOUR sound with & why it won out in the end for me
I own the 2 10 Bass Katana Didn't like the tones Couldn't use the online stuff So I bought a Laney Digbeth ND a pork and pickle run through the power amp in and now I Rock So I just use the power amp and speakers Works great Bass players need Tone not toys Patching made the boss usefull
Boy do those people think everybody is dumb.All those amps they show are run through a PA so really really aren't getting the true amp sound.I wish for once I would see somebody demonstrate a amp without the cord plugged in running to a PA.Just let us hear the real raw sound of the amp so we would know we're not getting ripoff.
Unless you’re in the room Al how are you expecting for us to demonstrate for you to hear this amp? Maybe a mic in front of it? Where would you like the mic in relation to the speaker? You would say it’s coloured by the mic and preamp and also not the sound in the room, the fact that 90% of bass amps have a Di is because that is the best way to amplify the bass amp in a large live gig situation. I’m sure You see my point.
@@TheStudioRats… some people do not understand that such videos are made for marketing purposes. It just gives an idea of what is sounds like and what it can do so that the listener may pick up their butt and go to the shop for a demo. 😊 Hey @alsmithsr4296 … YT can NEVER give you the true tone like if you are there yourself. 😂🤣
I bought the 60 watts and it’s a killer one too the 2 by 10 was way too lound for my use but the the 60 had exactly all the bell and whistles of the 160 great piece of gear wow super impressed it’s the amp of the year it’s a future classic!!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻❤️
Not a fan. The speaker and sound quality was sacrificed for the digital toys, many of which have limited use. The one know compressor is totally useless. There is a fuzzy/buzz in the bottom end that no matter how much you try and clean up you can't get rid off. Try n get rid of that "grit"!
Funny thing is that the bass amp has place for Boss bluetooth dongle, so you can use it with Airstep with out cables 😀 So now everybody and their dog will start to wait Katana mark III with place for bluetooth dongle. But summer is almost here 😀
Great to see your bass player finally make an appearance! I love the Katana for guitar so might be tempted by this for bass some day. For now, I’m very happy practising bass at home through headphones (or very low volumes) using my Katana 100. Already sounds good enough to my ears and I can record direct out from it.
Just to clarify a point you made regarding the external speaker out. It's either or.....if you plug an external speaker in, it disables the internal speaker(s). Their thinking with only 160 watts is they want you to get the whole 160 watts into whatever speaker enclosure you use...whether it be the internal or an external cab.
For years I used a Roland Cube bass for practice and I liked the idea of having multiple amps and some FX at the típ of my fingers. This Katana concept seems to expand the idea but IME, the more bells and whistles,the more fiddling with the knobs and buttons instead of playing..that's the reason I sold the Roland and got a Hartke combo for practice at home. Plug and play. That's it.
I use some FX on bass but I like to tweak them on the fly with their respective knobs instead on touching a screen or using a computer mouse.
Anyways, it's a Boss product, that means that it's good 👍.
Seems like a nice piece of kit, but it's still a bit hard to tell how it really sounds from listening to a TH-cam video, despite the fact that I am using a pair of high quality studio monitors. I would love to hear it live in my room compared to my Hartke 3500 2 x 10 combo. The Hartke obviously has less features as it is over 20 years old, but it does kick some ass. Also, I question how relevant it really is to have all of those effects on a bass amp. I admit that I am probably a bit old fashioned here, but other than a bit of grit, I like my bass tones mostly pure in the mix.
I think James covered this well starting at about 7:40. It's not designed to appeal to everyone. It's designed to be a practical solution for gigging, practicing and recording. The Hartke 3500 weighs 106lbs (48kg). Who wants to drag that around to gigs, rehearsals, studios, etc? I feel the same way about the Katana for guitar. As much as I love a Fender Twin or Super Deluxe, they are super heavy, and super loud which makes them super impractical. The Katana gets me close enough for far less money and without the need for back surgery.
@@bretspencer Actually, I totally agree with you. I don't gig anymore and I was just wondering how the sound would compare in a live setting. When I got the Hartke, yes it was heavy, but that was actually a down sizing for me at the time. The Hartke replaced an Ampeg SVT with a pair of 8 x 10 cabs. Talk about heavy, huh. In all fairness though, back then I was gigging full time and we had the pleasure of having roadies to do the grunt work. I play mostly guitar now and I am fully satisfied with my Katana MKII 1 x 12 and a Nux MG30. I'm 69 and couldn't imagine lugging around heavy amps anymore.
Arigato!
Clever….You’ve been playing the riff to your song in most of your gear videos. I recognized it even though I’ve never heard the song before.
You’re the first one to spot that. Song out next week
@@TheStudioRats Sounds great! Modern, yet not....Somehow. I can't wait to hear it.
I really like my Katana MK2 100 watt but it isn't loud enough. I use it strictly in my studio, and it is way awesome for that! I play in a loud old-school hard rock band. Our drummer doesn't tippy tap...he is loud! I think I'd prefer this bass amp to be in head form so I could use it in the studio and choose different speakers to play it through. 160 a/b watts is ok for rehearsal or home practice but frankly, it's just not enough headroom for a loud band. It should be kicking at the very least 300 solid-state watts for bass and 200 solid-state watts for the guitar. It starts running out of headroom and getting power amp distortion at about 60% on the master and to my ears, it starts sounding very thin and harsh at that point (odd-order harmonic distortion). As a guitar player, I'll continue to use my 100-watt Dual Rec half stack for live shows. As a bass player, I'm using a Trace Elliot Elf as a pre into a 2000 watt class D power amp driving 210's, a tweeter and a 15. As a drummer...please bring something loud enough that I can hear AND feel. Headphones make me feel very disconnected from the band so unless it is for recording...not gonna use headphones or IEM's. Some of us still like to "feel" it, loud and old school. All that being said, the Katana series is really nice and sounds fantastic. At home, my Mesa collects dust. The Katana is my goto for practice and recording. Peace, love, dove fellas!
"We don't need huge bass rigs on stage" but we like big bass rigs on stage
Shit my bass rig weighs 40 lbs. these days and gets LAF!
I have the Roland DB-500, Roland Cube 120xl, Roland Cube 100, Roland Cube 30, Roland micro Cube RX, Fender Rumble 100, Rumble 75, Rumble 60, Acoustic 371, Acoustic 230/408, Ampeg 200T Head/Cab, Ampeg BA-112, Peavey Combo 300, TNT-160 and I need this Amp for sure, great in Studio
Need to see a good comparison with the Fender Rumble modeling bass amps, presets, and software. At the outset the Katanas seem more powerful (watts, speaker size).
Katana is an awesome studio amp. I hope they come up with a 500w for live use.
just out of curiosity: did you get a katana 210? was it able to hold up with the 500w? could it be used in a Band with Loud Guitar&Drums - maybe even for small gigs?
They would have to downgrade it to a class d power. 500w on a class ab amp...wheeeewwwww
Soon we'll have Katana drum sets, PA systems, toasters, microwaves... :)
Tutorial, please -- Blend and Dry Level how does it work and what is the relationship with INPUT EFX and FX1 or FX2 options if any?
Using the balanced line out to active 15inch sub can make a nice power increase i guess. Insted of speaker out which cuts out the internal speakers.
Yup. My thoughts too.
Sounds good but I have a Fractal FM3 for my guitar and already fiddle with their editor for tweaking way too much. Just want something low maintenance you can tweak on the hardware quickly before any grey sets in.
Hey James?
When I think Katana (Boss Rigs) I am at a loss why the editor software only works with Apple Product’s ie iPad or iPhone. Mmm. What about people who don’t. It seems to me that doesn’t make sense. That other people are left high and dry when people like yourself demo Katana products and don’t talk about it Mmmm…,
wow. I didn't know it would not work with windows. that sucks.
@@charleswidmore5458 i have a katana and the tone studio works fine on my windows computer as well as the katana apps on my iphone - so i don't know what wayne is talking about - maybe he meant android (here i don't know if there are apps and how good they work).
Looks great and a nice preview. It would have been good to hear some opinion from the bass player though.
We put him back in the cupboard as soon as he finished. Ben only gets let out for recording and birthdays.
@@TheStudioRats at least you've given him a name ;)
@@TheStudioRats On a more serious note, there's a few features on this which aren't on the guitar version of the Katana. Notably balanced line out and Bluetooth option. It's been 2 years since the Katana mkII came out, and the Catalyst has come out since and is getting a fair bit of attention. How long do you reckon it will be before the Katana mkIII come out, with the Bluetooth module option and (hopefully) improved stereo support?
Maybe they'll even put GA-FC support and/or FX loop onto the Katana 50?
Can the front grille be removed to show the speakers?
If it’s anything like the guitar amp, then no.
@@jaxonvictoria4345 ok thanks!
Is 10'' speakers enough, or 15'' is better? Also, is 210 just louder or more thicker as well?
wonderful
Nice can you check if this works with the GT1000. So guitar > gt1000 > power amp in of bass katana.. I play both bass and electric
WHAT DID HE MEAN WHEN HE SAID 2% CAB? I JUST BOUGHT ONE OF THESE BTW ITS A GREAT AMP...STILL FEEL LIKE I NEED AN ADDED 15 THOUGH
Yeah!
wear do I get Studio rats music?
No, it doesn't have BT, it has a slot for BT adapter that of course, you have to buy. 😈
Personally, I'm fine with that. People who aren't interested in Bluetooth capability are catered for and don't feel they are paying for something they won't use and, for people who do want it, it's only $45.
Still cheaper than a Darkglass!
Guitar modellors I mean
I own a katana 210 and it CONSUMES 117 watts. So this COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT of 160 w rms is a Straight up lie STOP £UCKING LYING!
It would push 60w rms @ best. This works because the 2 10 inch speakers are unusually efficient with low mass cones & big ass ceramic magnets
BUT............ Despite this it sounds pretty bloody good. I bought the damn thing
after all. And it won out against ALL contenders @ the price point available to me in Aust. The choice in the end was down to the Ampeg Rocket 115 & the Katana. The ampeg being the ONLY rocket range combo I liked the sound of yes, including the 210. I believe this is due to the Eminence designed 15 that is remarkably very nice @ the price. But the katana simply has a richer palette to create YOUR sound with
& why it won out in the end for me
Is it loud enough to play a small gig with a drummer and two electric guitar players?
@@Irahenke that's what I wanna know!
@Irahenke it holds up against the fender rumble 500 just fine
cant understand you guys
I own the 2 10 Bass Katana
Didn't like the tones
Couldn't use the online stuff
So
I bought a Laney Digbeth ND a pork and pickle run through the power amp in and now I Rock
So I just use the power amp and speakers
Works great
Bass players need Tone not toys
Patching made the boss usefull
...and still no tuner....
dude.. you can buy a vibe tuner for $10 on ebay!
Boy do those people think everybody is dumb.All those amps they show are run through a PA so really really aren't getting the true amp sound.I wish for once I would see somebody demonstrate a amp without the cord plugged in running to a PA.Just let us hear the real raw sound of the amp so we would know we're not getting ripoff.
Unless you’re in the room Al how are you expecting for us to demonstrate for you to hear this amp? Maybe a mic in front of it? Where would you like the mic in relation to the speaker? You would say it’s coloured by the mic and preamp and also not the sound in the room, the fact that 90% of bass amps have a Di is because that is the best way to amplify the bass amp in a large live gig situation. I’m sure You see my point.
@@TheStudioRats… some people do not understand that such videos are made for marketing purposes. It just gives an idea of what is sounds like and what it can do so that the listener may pick up their butt and go to the shop for a demo. 😊
Hey @alsmithsr4296 … YT can NEVER give you the true tone like if you are there yourself. 😂🤣
Boss Katana-110 Bass 1 x 10-inch 60-watt
Height. 19.65"
Width. 18.50"
Depth. 11.81"
Weight. 37.03 lbs. (16,7 kg)
Boss Katana-210 Bass 2 x 10-inch 160-watt
Height. 24.40"
Width. 19.29"
Depth. 14.17"
Weight. 48.06 lbs (21.8 kg)
A dedicated compressor slot! I want that on my regular katana!
Maby an amp for modellors ? (with the tweater it will be a portable P.A. speaker ) I see there is a poweramp in . FRFR
I bought the 110 version today. It will be perfect for home playing and recording.
hi..nice amp..is it loud enough for small gigs( 80 People audiance)with band...??? thnxx peter
Great video!
Thanks for the info
James you are kickin it !! It all sounds great....even the amp
I bought the 60 watts and it’s a killer one too the 2 by 10 was way too lound for my use but the the 60 had exactly all the bell and whistles of the 160 great piece of gear wow super impressed it’s the amp of the year it’s a future classic!!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻❤️
just curios- wouldn't the 1w make the 210 okay for home practice? asking for a friend :)
BASS Katana! Finally!
Not a fan. The speaker and sound quality was sacrificed for the digital toys, many of which have limited use. The one know compressor is totally useless. There is a fuzzy/buzz in the bottom end that no matter how much you try and clean up you can't get rid off. Try n get rid of that "grit"!
Is the katana 110 enough for a medium bar with 80 people? Katana 110 Vs Hartke hd 150 o fender rumble 100. Which one is more powefull and punch?
Best video test of the Katana 210 on youtube! Professional, detailed, band-like, thanks Rats
spangkety spang can equal buzzedy buzz with a tweedly deet.
rocking guys that song is superb!!!
Funny thing is that the bass amp has place for Boss bluetooth dongle, so you can use it with Airstep with out cables 😀
So now everybody and their dog will start to wait Katana mark III with place for bluetooth dongle.
But summer is almost here 😀
Damn you guys do to much talking!!!!
Yep
TO MUCH TALKING ,AND NONSENSE BANTERING, BARELY IF ANY, A QUILIFIED DEMO.
man.. you must be fun at parties :)
Glad to know we are pleasing the bass community.
Quillified. Got the 👵 approval
@@TheStudioRats , their at the bottom of the food chain 😂