F250/F350 Body Mount Replacement with 2 Problem Areas Resolved (Read Description)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Update: Some folks are reporting squeaking from the Kevlar. If I had to do it again, I'd use the rubber mounts. Not because of squeaking in my case, but because of how stiff it is. Consider this when you purchase your mounts. If you want to use Amazon, you can click the "Dorman" link below and it'll take you to the front mounts and display the other rubber mounts. Although it should go without saying, please ensure you select the right product for your truck! Do your due diligence.
After breaking down in North Carolina, we had to have the truck worked on for the oil cooler which required lifting the cab. At completion, he told me that the cab mounts were bad and suggested I replace them. I was already well over $3000 so I figured I'd let my mechanic do it when we got home because we needed time to recover the budget. Well, it's time to do it, but my mechanic wanted too much so I researched it and decided to do it myself. After getting into it, I ran into 2 major issues with my 2008 body mount replacement. 1. The two front mounts were seized up and I had to cut them out. 2. The cage nuts on 2 of the body mounts were stripped so I had to resolve that too. This is a video of all of it. Truck and RV maintenance definitely falls into the realm of RVing and if you're not prepared for it, you might as well not even undertake RVing in my opinion.
Dorman Front: amzn.to/2OtVBnj
Kevlar Kit: amzn.to/2M37DTh
We are Brent and Gina and we love to travel especially by RV which in our case, is our fifth wheel. We usually take 2 or 3 trips a year ranging from 2 weeks to 2 months depending on the trip and how life is going at the time. We would love hear about your traveling adventures so please leave a comment and share.
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Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Just had a front end alignment and my dealer told me about my body mounts pretty much gone. I haven't looked yet because it got late and freezing out. Im exactly like you. Ford wanted 1700.00$$$$$$$ freaking dollars to loosen 8 bolts. Im a jack of all trades and also save money where I can. This has Given me the confidence that even running into headaches, it CAN be done by myself! Thanks again.
Thanks for taking time to show your experience. I was working under my truck today and noticed the deteriorated body mounts. I didn't even know what they were before today. I'm making it my next project.
You bet. I couldn't believe how bad mine were. Take your time and be careful.
My 2008 F350 Body mounts were all GONE!! Your video was a great help. I had to saw the front ones off just as you did. Also bought the replacement Dorman's for the radiator---I couldn't break those apart.. All replacements done. Thanks for the great informative video.
Just helping one person like you is worth the effort of video-taping it. I'm very happy for you. Happy travels!
Same truck and year 08 F350 mounts are all gone cant get bolts out cab moves when i hit a bump gotta try ur way now.lol fingers crossed going in hot
How did you get the cage nuts out of the front? Mine is slipping in front passenger side
I watched this because a neighbor asked for help doing the mounts on his 2015 F250 since he knows I do most of my own work on my truck. My 2008 F350 DRW could probably benefit from new mounts, too. I should have done this when I replaced the radiator. This certainly gives me a head start. Thanks.
Awesome video! Outstanding detail. Thanks for sharing your mistakes so we do not repeat them
Good information thank you for sharing your experience from a diy perspective. You got it done without all the fancy, high dollar shop tools. I’ll be doing my cab bushings in the near future to save $1500 out of my pocket
Great video! Awesome job detailing the task and gotchas. It’s given me the info I need to tackle the project. First time I’ve run across one of your videos, looking forward to perusing your library.
Thanks! Hope it works out for you too!
Wow! My 2010 F250 Super Cab is in dire need of these bushings right now and this video was enough to show me that at my age and with a full time job, I will have to just bite the bullet and pay someone to do this! You have far more patience than I do anymore. At least I will understand why it costs so much! Thanks for the great video.
Hey Michael, at least it helped you make a decision, huh? That's also valuable. They just wanted way too much money for my taste to do the job. But, like you said, it was a lot of work and I sure wished I had the money. Best to you brother.
I couldn't agree more.
Nice preview of what I have ahead of me.
THANK YOU.
Thank you for a great video now I've just got to get my getting to go and get out there and do it! But thanks it was a really great help.Ive got a 2008 f250 diesel and my mounts just fell out on the driveway wow thought the whole underneath was falling out ,but just the mounts.
Dang. Share how it goes.
S&B filters has these mounts with complete hardware and silicone rubber bushings. My truck now rides better than new.
It's time for me to replace the bushings on my 2012 F250 w/ 122k on it. They've been bad for a while but it's to the point I can't ignore it anymore. I've been looking at the S&B Silicone ones, but their twice the price of the competition and I'm struggling with forking out $700 for parts alone. did you install them yourself? What made you choose S&B over the competition?
@@nomad636 I also used the S&B replacements and did the swap myself, it was worth it in my opinion simply because of exact fittment and durability + no squeeking. they are pricey though
Savinelli 1876 I actually got Ford Motor Company to cover the cost of replacing all of the bushings with OEM. I lodged a formal complaint with them, the process took a few weeks, but they ended up paying my local Ford Dealership to replace all of them.
Thank you for all the detail. The bang thump sound in my truck is driving me crazy. Planning on doing this before my upcoming rv trip.
Best to you on the job and in your travels. :O)
Thanks for the video. The front drivers side is stripped. This video gives me hope that under the front floorboard carpet there is an access plug as well.
Hope it went well for you Charlie!
Great video! I did this a couple years ago on a 2005 F350 and this week I am doing it on my 2008 F450. The 2008+ are different as they can be done from underneath without removing the floor mat/carpet (if you don't break the nut retainers). I am using another brand of bushing (Energy Suspension) and all the videos I pulled up on that were rednecks breaking everything and not showing how to separate the upper and lower halves.
2008 F-250 SuperCab/Lariat- Mileage 124,450 . I had one Bolt Cage break free at front left underneath Radiator after following all precautions and not using an Impact and only a Breaker Bar. I left that one the way it was and will sick a trained Mechanic on it at some point. I had heard about squeaking on the DayStar replacements and applied White Teflon Grease at all Metal contact points on the OEM Bell that meets the Cab and the bottom piece. Make absolutely NO MISTAKE this job is a PAIN IN THE ASS ! The Bolts are very difficult to remove and replace. Do yourself a huge favor and put a Torch on every Bolt for at least a minute possibly longer before unthreading because you'll probably never unloosen them because of the Blue Lock Tight and for Christ's sake keep a Fire Extinguisher close by . Bolting them back in is a LITTLE easier but still a major pain in the ass ! Count on a minimum of 8 hours of labor if your attempting this project solo I don't care who say's differently. I have any and ALL the tools necessary to do this job except a Lift. The hard work paid off and is a completely different Truck. Even the front Cab Mount that the Nut Cage broke didn't make a sound and rides and handles 100% better. The moral to this story. USE TEFLON GREASE and don't listen to someone's inflated Ego about how fast they did the Job ! Regards ,
I already did the job. It was a PIA and solved a couple problem areas that are in the video. Not sure of the point of your post. Could you elaborate?
Kerry Day Real nice work.... I have the same problem of crumbling bushing on a 2012 Super Duty 550 with less than 40,000 miles on it.... those bushings just crumble over time.... I don’t drive my Superduty that much....
Only worth watching video in whole youtube addressing a f250 body mount cage nut access. Thank you sir 🫡
I took my 8 bolts out, and it was very difficult turning them out. Very hard all the way out, and I used a torch on them. When I re-install them I'm going to use a lock washer instead of thread locker. If my cab needs to be removed in the future those caged nuts won't hold a 2nd time if I use thread locker.
Thank you so much for this video!!! My cage nuts were broke loose also! Thank you!!!!
I'm happy you found value in the video. All the best to you on the job!
Great video Brent. It was very informative and a little depressing at the same time. I have to replace my back cab mounts on my 2011 F-350 but I'm hoping I wont have to replace all of them. Guess I will give the others a good once over before I get started. Thanks again for all the great info.
I hope it goes or went well!
awsome video brent ! i will be replacing mine this weekend
Best wishes. Let me know how it went Wysnar!
Hey guys.. I own a 05 f350superduty. . and the body bushings were crushed ... so. went to the junk yard..and I replaced mine with the 04 and early style.. they are rubber .. and doesn't deteriorate. .and crush.. what a difference. . I'm happy. 😉😆 cheap fix
Sounds great for you buddy!
Nice 👍 I put S&B body mounts in they gave me new bolts I had to heat up the bolts to remove them
Great video. I’m getting ready to do mine next weekend. Fingers crossed!
How'd it go?
@@brentginastravelingadventures I hit a snag with the front passenger bolt. It stripped out the cage nut and I am in the process of getting it off. Fortunately I started with the worst one first so I didn't have the rest of them dissassembled.
Now I see why they charge $1500 to do it. Good video!
Great video Brent--awesome attention to detail and great explanation(s)--Thanks. Question: Have you experienced the "hard ride" with the kevlar that most reviews complain about? Thanks in advance
Hummm, good question. My truck was already beefed up--shocks, springs, sway bar, air bags, etc--to pull a fifth wheel. Sometimes when I go at an angle down something, I hear a hard noise, but I've not felt any harsher of a ride simply due to the kevlar. My fronts aren't kevlar so maybe that helps??
Great detail!
Thank you.
How many days did the Kevlar mounts last you?
Super helpful.
Thank you
You bet.
I am doing the S&B Silicone mounts, they arrived Friday. I will be doing this job TUESDAY, did you have to disconnect ANYTHING under the hood to move cab up enough to replace the top part? I have a two post lift and will do all 8 at one time.
I lifted one side at a time as I read somewhere to do. I can't remember where and I want you to know that I have no idea if doing all 8 is wise or not. This was my one and only time doing this. I did not have to disconnect anything under the hood.
You won't be disapointed with the S&B's. They came with completely new hardware all around and made in U.S. Wise choice sir.
On the drivers radiator bushing the bolt snapped in half and I can’t reach the broken bolt with a drill bit. Any ideas on how it could be removed?
Good video, sir.
Thank you AP.
How has the day star body mounts held up
Thanks, good Info.
Thanks. I have a two post so all eight will be cake.
DayStar mounts squeaked on mine after Tri-Care diesel shop installed them. Totally disappointed. Had to pay to go back with stock bushings. Cost me more in the end. They did not fit in the cup and they moved around. Even with 80ft/lbs of torque
That sucks. Sorry to hear. Mine don't squeak at all. Never have. I don't have kevlar on the front two though as you see in the video. I would go to rubber if I had to do again due to the truck tightness. It feels really stiff.
This was a great video. My mounts are in the same condition on my 2008 F250. How long did it take you to complete the job?
A few days. I had a kit and tools, but I tried so many things to get the fronts off and that took time. When I finally figured out to cut them out, I had to order the hardware/mounts for the front two. That took a few days. I had to try and find out how to deal with the broken, spinning nut, how to remove the back seat, and other research. If I had all that figured out going in, I could have done it in a day. A video like mine would have been great for me.
That's me in the other comment too.
What size socket ypu used for the stripped one?
I just finished my f250 super duty an hour ago. I spent less than 200.
The front by light
Doing my 2012 f250 tomorrow wish me luck! I’m going back with the Ford mounts the parts manager said they redesigned them in 2017 and that they wouldn’t rot out again? Thanks for the video.
Sorry for the late reply. How'd it go?
It was uneventful, took about two hours but then again my truck has never been off road very much.
HOW DO I REMOVE THE FRONT DRIVER SIDE IM LOST THERE
Great video. Did you do any research on which mounts to purchase? I know a lot of people have said the old rubber ones are best vs the orange neoprene ones but I see you have something I have never seen before and that is the kevlar. Where in Arkansas do you live, I am up outside of Branson on Table Rock Lake. Been watching as many of these as I can as mine need replaced. Went yesterday to get an estimate, it was 850 bucks. Also, when you did the driver side mounts, did you have to loosen the steering column? Thanks!!
I usually do a bunch of research so I'm certain I did. I live near Little Rock. Table Rock is a beautiful area. We enjoy it. No, didn't loosen the steering column. I would have included it as part of the job. Best wishes to you on your job!
Thank you for the video. This is my next project on my 08 F350 crew cab. Did the Dorman mounts in the front fit better in the frame mount holes better then the Kevlar mounts for the remaining areas? In the video you showed how much smaller in diameter they were compared to OEM. Thank you.
Yes, they fit more like stock.
WOW,, why didn't you have him replace them then? IF the cab was removed already!
Two reasons. We spent all of our savings and then some on the oil cooler and a few related expenses. Secondly, he told us after all the work had been done and the cab was put back on. Good question.
I can't imagine the extra expense either. He was expensive.
thanks for your vid i have obs 4 door 21 years old i need to do this been making bad noise sence 2010. i think i will use all rubber. even a long time ago when poly was first out. guys said they were noiney on hi po cars. been asking around no body got a clue cause most people trade before tish is a problem.
I think so. I try to keep mine for as long as possible if it's working good.
Sorry I'm late, a cheap harbor frieght air hammer will do the trick to vibrate the heck out of them, then they just drop out.
Sir, Thank you very much for this detailed video!
You are welcome. I hope it helped!
I know it's a little late, but a 9/16 hex will fit in that lower hole.
I own a 2011 Super Duty crew cab and my cab bushings failed at 110,000 miles or about 5 years of use. I was informed by a former Ford parts manager that Ford changed to a neoprene bushing in '07-'08 in an effort to achieve a better ride. Prior year models had rubber bushings which were far superior. The Doorman kit you used for the forward positions appeared to be high quality. Whats your observation on ride quality since the replacement?
Well, I've got a stiff truck with all the extras I've added for a camper, but like I said in the description, I would use rubber mounts if I had to do it again simply because my truck beats the crap out of me when not loaded. I think rubber would soften it some...so Dorman.
Hello Brent, thanks for the video. Quick question, I see you went with a Dorman kit, I was told to get a Daystar kit and now the bushings are much smaller than the oem ones and I'm worried about the cab not being held tightly in place as supposed. Do you have any experience with this?
I used Dorman only on the front two 'cause I had to cut off the brackets and the Daystar didn't have brackets. The rest are Daystar Kevlar. The bolts hold the mounts tight because you'll be using the old bolts/nuts with a Daystar Kevlar kit. The concern some have is the play in the smaller bushings. IOW, some sliding and possible cab noise. I haven't had that yet, but look at the date of install. Hasn't been very long yet. Hope that answers your questions! If not, let me know.
Hey Brent, I'm getting ready to replace the body mounts and have really appreciated you video on the replacement. I had three questions after watching your video. I have an 2009 f250 LWB super cab. Would this model take the same bushing kit that you ordered online? and second question: when removing / loosening the bolts from the underside did you attempt to put a back up wrench on the nut on the top side or just start loosening? would heating it up before you start loosening help keep the nut on top from spinning?
Hey John, I'm not sure if it'd take the exact same kit. Seems I remember reading that the Super had the 3rd mount that was a little smaller, but I"m not dead sure. You can go onto Amazon and click on "Accounts and Lists" and in that drop-down is a link to "Your Garage". From there, you can input your truck, and after that, anything you click that relates to vehicles will tell you at the top if it fits your truck. Pretty cool as I use Amazon almost every day.
The nuts inside the cab are cage nuts as shown in the video. You technically don't have to put a wrench on them, but as you see in the video, one was spinning and I had to do just that. On the front mounts, nothing worked but cutting them off and I tried heating them. So, to answer your question I don't know how much heating works 'cause it didn't for me. They were just to seized up.
I wish you the best! It's not a fun job. Be careful with flame under a truck. I lost a high school buddy that way.
How do you remove the old cage nut brackets the cage itself are they spot welded in??
The nuts are spot welded to a piece of metal that is trapped to keep from turning. Once the bolt is removed, the nuts lift out.
Is your truck the diesel engine? Also, did you take anything loose under the hood to get proper clearance?
Yes, diesel. Nothing other than exactly what's in the video.
on the front ones that you had to cut off,could you put a small socket in the hole and use a bearing puller on it to push it apart?
I wish I knew the answer. If it was an idea that popped into my head at the time, I would have tried it or just about anything. :O)
no i couldnt,after seeing them i would have to place it on top which isnt possible,i used daystar and they came with new bolts,and top and bottom caps,just reused the nuts,so i cut the fronts in half,the middle and rear i could heat the nuts with a small air/acetelyne torch and air ratcheted them out,i have a 08 superduty 4x4 super cab so i only had 6,thanks for the video
Did you have to loosen all the bolts on the passenger side of the truck before jacking up the driver side cab or did you leave the passenger side bolts tight?
I wish I could remember the details. This was 4 years ago. I'd tried to put every little thing in the video so maybe that answer is in there?? If not, my best thoughts are to not fully tighten until all are in place.
@@brentginastravelingadventures No problem, I can't remember what I ate for lunch yesterday so I totally understand where you are coming from. Thanks for the quick reply.
Great video. I have a 2011 Supercab (extended cab) and I'm having a knocking sound coming from the passenger rear cab corner area, I believe it to be the body mount. Can this job be done without having to change out or loosen the front mounts? I hear those are the hard ones and my front mounts seem to be ok.
I think so. If #1 is the front and #4 is last, you might be able to lift up #4 and even potentially #3 enough to change out. I don't know the differences between a super and a crew however. All the best on the change-out.
i have a 08 supercab and no i dont think its possibble,might as well change all 3,thats why instructions say remove all of passenger side and loosen all of drivers side so as to get enough lift to take them out,dont know if its possible to ''rack''the body,bend it in a way that the door wouldnt shut afterwards,after changing mine i wouldnt try it,you do not have that much flex,i know this is a 2 year old question but if you attempted it we would like to hear
Thanks for doing this , I’ve got a 1980 Bronco. Doing a 3” body lift. Had no idea what I was getting into. I’ve had to cut a few so far. What replacements would you recommend? Part # would be sweet thx!
I'm not sure what to recommend for you. I only know of Dorman other than the ones I chose. I remember someone mentioning another type, but heck if I can remember. Look in the comments here...maybe?? Best to you buddy.
Brent & Gina's RV Traveling Adventures got it done, hardware store 😂
Thank you sir it’s a great video!
May i ask what symptoms you had when this bushings went bad?
It was in at a mechanic while on vacation and he said I need to have it taken care of when I get home.
It sounds like someone hitting your truck bed with a hammer.
You'll think you need shocks.
A simple inspection will reveal their condition.
Drove me nuts til I fig'd it out.
Your cab and bed will also likely be misaligned.
Samuel I thank you samuel!
That’s exactly what I’m experiencing on my f250 and yeap they gone nothing there but a bolt 🤦🏽♂️
Thanks so much! No symptoms. I was traveling and my oil cooler went out. They told me about them as they had to lift the cab. That cost me over $3000 so I told them to leave the bushings alone and I'd do them.
@@brentginastravelingadventures If he had to lift the cab why were the 2 front mounts seized?
You should have replaced with S&B silicon mounts.
Even with a torch I can't get the bolts broken loose. This is a nightmare!
Which ones? All of them? I had that issue with the front ones. Nothing I did worked so I cut them off. I suspect you saw that part though. I can't remember well enough on the back ones so I'm going to ask: Do you think you can cut them loose? Brother, I know how you feel. It sucks!
Kicking my ass as we speak. My luck, every video I watch says no problem, done in three hrs. Ha B.S.
Hey Brent, I'm looking to replace the mounts on my truck and have seen some reviews on the poly bushings stating that they squeak and transmit road noise into the cab. Do you find this to be true with the one you installed?
Not yet, but I've only had them on about a month. The front radiator mounts on mine are Dorman and installed for the reasons in the video I'm not sure what they're made of, but they're pliable like rubber and I'll bet they are indeed rubber. The other 6 locations are Kevlar vs. poly and I've read similar complaints on the Kevlar too. Best of luck on your install. There's not much options available on these mounts.
@@brentginastravelingadventures now that is has been a year. do you find any squeaking with the poly bushings you installed? also I have heard that the poly is a more harsh ride, what do you think?
No squeaking, but I surely believe that make the ride harsher. To be fair, my suspension is still all around.
What symptoms led you to check them?
IIRC, I read it in an RV forum where someone with my truck said he couldn't believe how bad the mounts were.
Mine sounded like the bed was falling loose is what led me here. Mine are the rear two almost completely gone. I’ll start this tomorrow. Also the auto zone ones are rubber I’ll try those $100 for the kit
What size is the carriage bolt?
If I didn't put it in the video, it's just not available. What I did was use Amazon. It asks for me to put in my vehicle make and lets you know if that particular part will fit your vehicle. If you do that, you might be able to get the details on the size you're looking for and not have to buy it from Amazon.
Awesome video sir, very informative. Thumbs up on the video. The Dorman mounts, they looked yellow like the factory ones. Are they the same material as the factory ones? Take care sir.
Thanks William! They were sort of like the factory ones in material only my factory ones were originally black. I'm not sure of the newer color of factory replacements however.
Try KROIL ~ !!!
what size nut is the cage nut?
Uh, I can't quite remember after all this time. I'm thinking it's the same as the bolt.
three years later...
It went well. Sold it last year for a 2018. Night and day.
If you heat the bolts the come out super easy ford over due there loctite.
Only the front ones had an issue and I did heat them. :O)
What size are the mount nuts ?
I cannot remember. This was a while back. My thoughts are it's the same 15mm as the bolts, but not sure. I have a basic socket wrench set that had the size.
Do u notice any ride difference
Stiffer which isn't an issue when towing, but I think I'd go with rubber next time because she's tight.
Did you feel a difference in ride quality?
I remember back when I did this how the truck tightened up and seemed more solid. I read somewhere to check it and saw they were bad which is why I did it vs noticing something bad happening.
I'm the same Brent. I have this gardening channel too.
@@C3Voyage Thank you - I am getting ready to do the same job.
Great, Can save some money. Hope you don't run into the same mess I did. It can get frustrating.
for me,first i had changed shocks and more agressive tires for my 4x4 08 f250 supercab,i only noticed mine when hitting bumps at highway speed,clunking metal on metal sound,thought it was shocks which needed replacing but didnt fix it and didnt want to start changing parts like i hear about,glad i came across BRENTS site while searching,so to answer,now i feel the more agressive tires,truck feels higher,stiffer and more responsive when steering,but i remember it is a 4x4,18'' tires and is not a cadillac,still love my truck and bought it for what it is
i need this done on my 05 f250 i cant do this myself nor can i get the 1500$ you said they want, this is an issue
Sorry to hear Ryan. See if you can find local mechanics that'll do it cheaper. Should be a matter of making simple calls. One thing I've always found is that they'll often give you a price, like $500 (example), and then when you go to pay the $750 bill, they'll say, "We found this or that while doing it and we didn't see that coming." Almost every single time I get that sort of crap.
@@C3Voyage im going to call ford tomorrow and ask them if its under 1k ill go with them mostly cause if they do something its on them lmao ill probably call around to a few shops
@@AmericanMan961 I'd love to know what they want to charge you.
@@C3Voyage im sure too much, sigh...
Hydroponic Gardening & More with Brent hey update called ford near me in murphy nc, said its going to be about 400$ for labor and whatever the cost of the bushings i think its 4 of them? So id say its around 1000$ to have done
Now we know why Ford charges so much. I bought the generic bushings and they SUCK!! NO ABSORPTION AT ALL! Don't do it! They act and feel like hard plastic and made a bad ride terrible. Bite the bullet and either order the OEM or a high end alternative. There are a few out there.
Very passionate. I put an update in the description to advise of this only less passionate. :O)
Are the gray body mounts better?
Rob Cuellar Much better. The old ones were rotten or missing.
thanks! im about to order a set and i wasn't sure if i should go with gray with Kevlar or reg black
Honestly, I think stock or the ones I used on the front 2 would be fine 'cause I'm not keeping truck for more than 5 or 6 more years before getting a newer one. So, I guess it depends on how long you want to keep it and compare to cost.
NO AMOUNT OF HEAT WILL KEEP THOSE DAMN NUTS FROM SLIPPING!!!! "SHITTTT"
I've driven fords for a few decades now. They used to be great trucks. They really suck now. Body mount replacement? You've got to be joking. Their engineering is no longer acceptible.
If you want, you can come up here to Table Rock Lake and set your RV up in my yard (1 acre) and fix my body mounts for me. I'll even let you hook up to my electric and water for free. LOL ....
I think you know that answer before you asked it! LOL
Beer and brisquet included.
I just came back from table rock! Love that place
I have a 2009 F250 and it is the most poorly designed truck I have ever owned..........I will never buy a ford again.
08-10 were not great, but my 2018 is awesome by comparison.
Typical of bushings as they're made in China from crappy rubber .
:O)