What’s Better Buy? Triangle Borea BR03 or Wharfedale Diamond 225

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  • Triangle Borea BR03 Speakers amzn.to/2ybOCwj
    Price: $549 (April, 2020)
    Overall Rating: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ¾
    Pros: Detail Sound, Clean Midrange and Bass, Good Sound Stage.
    Cons: A Little Cold And Bright Sound Signature From Upper Midrange to Highs, Cabinet Vinyl Wrapping is Not Up To Standard.
    Build Quality: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️
    Highs: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ½
    Midrange: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ¾
    Bass: ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️
    Sound Stage:⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
    Price: ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ½
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    All music playback is FLAC files via Marantz USB DAC to PMA-SX11 analog input stage.
    Timeline;
    0:00 Build Quality
    2:18 Measurements & Comparison Review
    09:54 BR03 Sound Sample
    12:29 Diamond 225 Sound Sample

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  • @jornkohler4977
    @jornkohler4977 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Triangle sound very dynamic, clear and engaging. The Borea series is most fun I ever had with budget speakes. Pair ist with the right stereo amp (not AV receiver) and you will be surprised what is possibe in this price range.

  • @SuperSeltzer
    @SuperSeltzer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After I researched long and hard for warm and laid back pair of speakers I had great anticipation for Wharfedale diamond 225 and it did not disappoint when it arrived.

  • @stephen579
    @stephen579 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have had many makes of speakers over many years and I can honestly say the 225s are great.

  • @jgdaprem
    @jgdaprem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thabamar, as usual, you are the best !! and I still love my Wharefedale 225 !

  • @jameswheeler7679
    @jameswheeler7679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another awesome review if I continue to keep watching your reviews I'll probably end up getting more speakers I just bought a pair over a month ago

  • @MrJeffuz
    @MrJeffuz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tharbamar, I’m so glad I came across this review. I was about to purchase the Triangles but based on your comparison here and other glowing reviews I went with the Wharfedale 225’s. I was hoping to be able to use your link below but It didn’t take me to the right product page unfortunately.

  • @marcosr2
    @marcosr2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comparison, inspired me to buy a Wharfedale Diamond 225 in the future! thanks man.

  • @markwinechairman
    @markwinechairman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love my br03s!!! Awesome sound!!!

  • @dizzy6745
    @dizzy6745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I hope you are staying healthy and safe!

  • @williammoore2367
    @williammoore2367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the great reviews and appreciate your TH-cam channel..
    I was looking for a really great Bookself and after seeing this Comparison with the BRO3’s I decided to order the Warfedale 225’s..super excited and also will try your suggested changes with the plate and wires..
    Keep up the good work!!!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope you enjoy it!

    • @williammoore2367
      @williammoore2367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tharbamar received the speakers yesterday and I was amazed by the musicality and the quality…even the black cabinets are veneer!!!
      Stunning and the sound stage and imaging is Tommy liking.
      Treble and mid range is vantastic bass is great and will do your recommend modification which I see this will make a difference on certain musical pieces on the bass..even at that I can’t get over how great they sound Huff another HiFi reviewer is also spot on about the 225’s for price I think you have to exceed 1000 to find something that would be better…
      Again personal choices a must try!!!!
      Thanks so much for doing the review

  • @dmitriijustnow770
    @dmitriijustnow770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for starting to apply the measurements! keep growing! measurements are very important with such a variety of speakers and they allow you to more objectively evaluate the sound.
    ps. next wharf 225 vs revel m16 )

  • @kenlane3001
    @kenlane3001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your thoughts!...Nice work. :)

  • @corkydukeII5898
    @corkydukeII5898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the comparison....hopefully someday you'll get around to the Wharfedale Diamond 11.2 speakers for review

  • @normandyflores554
    @normandyflores554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review. More power to your channel 💪

  • @lpspinners8736
    @lpspinners8736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for posting - great review! I appreciate your descriptions comparing these brands. I would give the edge to the Triangles as the boomy low end of the Wharfedales was a bit distracting and slow, as you mentioned in the review.

  • @dmitriijustnow770
    @dmitriijustnow770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought 225 a long time ago, after your first review) I took them apart, there are features: the surface under the woofer is varnished, but there are sharp bumps that prevent the speaker from being pressed tightly, they need to be sanded with sandpaper) the woofer itself seems to have a plastic basket! ! I haven’t seen such a thing yet ... but overall the sound is very pleasant, my room has the lowest bass, a great mid, sometimes the highest frequencies are not enough, maybe this is due to the characteristics of my audio system ...

  • @Nicnackity
    @Nicnackity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Another great review. Next wd225 vs psb p5.

    • @tcc5750
      @tcc5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

  • @Clx1
    @Clx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your videos!

  • @johan5660
    @johan5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and unbiased review 👍👍👍

  • @roig8578
    @roig8578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Triangle sounds more natural and clear. Wharfedale is too warm for my taste, sounds far away and distant, non-engaging. Thanks, this is helping me narrow down my choices.

  • @tpilot61
    @tpilot61 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I know it is not the best way to hear via youtube but using my Grado headphones I find the bass on the Triangle faster and has more texture.

  • @zenfishbike
    @zenfishbike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love that you provide sound comparisons but selected track(s) should include voice, male and female if possible. Thanks

  • @lawrencemo1231
    @lawrencemo1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi! Tharbamar, good comparison! Any chance to test out Focal Chora speakers? Thanks!

  • @JohnDoe-go8xh
    @JohnDoe-go8xh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I intended to get an additional pair of Wharfedale Diamond 225 speakers for my entertainment center but they are now discontinued in the US and no longer available. Apparently they were replaced with the Diamond 12.2 speakers which appear to be differently constructed and the bass system is also very different. Do you think my entertainment system would sound good if I ordered the new 12.2 speakers and used them as my front speakers, and moved my 225 speakers and used them as my rear speakers? I do not think you have reviewed the 12.2 speakers yet. Do you think they will be as good as the 225 speakers? Thanks in advance for any comments or suggestions.

  • @Mihai092
    @Mihai092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Tharbamar, thank u for this great review and measurements ! PS: Did u had the chance to audition Diamond 11.2 or maybe compare the 225 with the 11.2 in the near future or even Evo 4.1/2 ? I Had 11.2 but i didnt had 225, im curious how do they compare, i heard 11.2 is more laid-back than 225 and have a bit better low end and wider soundstage.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I will do, thanks

  • @AmbientWanderer
    @AmbientWanderer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Triangles sounded much more open and dynamic, and with more impact. However, they do sound a little to sibilant. Shame that the highs are not just a tiny bit more rolled off

  • @Miguel8131981
    @Miguel8131981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey there Tharbamar. Thanks for another great video. I just have one little question if you have the time. How does the Wharfedale Diamond 225 speaker compare to the Bowers & Wilkins 606 speaker?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi, I like 606 for for details, attack and transparency but it can get bright with some music, D225 is more relaxed and soft yet richer engaging tonality that I can enjoy for long time, I like the vocals on D225 more than other speakers in the price range. Thanks

  • @yippie6862
    @yippie6862 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Triangles are so much better. Clearer, more detailed, still smooth, better bass, better soundstage and presence. Not even close.

  • @nobicubalibre2143
    @nobicubalibre2143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I picked up a pair of the bro03 and I am running them on a emotiva ta1 integrated amp..and boy do the triangle sound great and found the B&W 606 anniversary edition way to bright much brighter then bro3 and the bro3 haven’t been broken in yet..

  • @Maravalmusic
    @Maravalmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, with graphs, not just music and words...

  • @MrBravo143
    @MrBravo143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    D 225 or Elac Debut B6.2. which is better? If you can review, that's great.

  • @ekaftttt
    @ekaftttt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    These Triangle people are never going to send you another product to review . Thank you for your honest review . I trust ur channel the most to all the many reviewers I have been watching . You know all the top ones on who are doing reviews these days .

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’m ok with that, I’d just share the actual experience. thanks

    • @davidmlevitt
      @davidmlevitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I own the Triangle Bro3. I think they sound amazing. Very detailed, great sounds stage, excellent clean bass. In truth I enjoy them more than the Buchardt s400 which I returned. It is the tonality that makes these speakers so special. I can't wait to play music through these speakers everyday. Non fatiguing.

    • @davidmlevitt
      @davidmlevitt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Thomas Zielinski Hi Thomas. I have never heard the Totem rainmakers. Stereophile has an excellent review on them. The review is fairly glowing. The Totems are almost double the price and their build quality is better than the Triangle Bro3s. The Triangles for $549 are just so much fun and I like to rotate them into my listening room. You have an incredible amp so I'm thinking you want a speaker that would better match it's capability. If you have the budget I think you should be looking at speakers $1,000 or more just my thinking. Sometimes the best part is the search for something special for you. Thomas's channel does a great job of categorizing different types of speakers and his input could be helpful to you. I love the sound of the paper cones on the Triangles Bro3s, the tonality is amazing for the price the technology today is flattening the cost to quality curve. I hope this helps.

    • @ManuelMedellin.
      @ManuelMedellin. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidmlevitt Paper Cone midrange makes all the difference. I listened to 75 brands and Triangle win for me. They are also better french brand than Focal. Oh, but I also love the Tribal Totem Tower a lot, but Totem Acoustics brand are too expensive for me.

  • @erikalexander6602
    @erikalexander6602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Interesting to get completely different options on the triangles, depending on reviewer . Looks like, as with anything, must try yourself! I’m thinking the Triangles, with forgiving tube gear, would be the more interesting sounding speakers with movies and dynamic music

    • @JuXuS1
      @JuXuS1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Triangles are the first speakers i own where i can see what bassdrum was played and how hard or doft the beater was. im a drummer.

  • @DJJASProductions
    @DJJASProductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review! I am mainly watching tv and movies on Netflix. I need something with superb vocal clarity for dialogue and intelligibility. What would you recommend?

  • @alpaslanbek
    @alpaslanbek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Diamonds feel like they are easier to listen to and not fatiguing as much. Boreas sound like Dali Zensor 3 to me. Bright and punchy

  • @ML-rm3vk
    @ML-rm3vk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hi fine review very impressive . thank you peace

  • @tudordoru5388
    @tudordoru5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am sure that this two speakers (BR03 and Diamond 225) are very good both of them. But we must pair them with right amp, preamp, room etc. And, this is another important aspect, we must pair with personal subjective preference also! Otherwise they will sound worst for us! For exemple I went to the local hi fi market and listen many kind of speakers: warm, natural warm, natural bright and bright. I chose a warm one because my personal preference! My subjective choice it was this wharfedale 225. For exemple, when I was in this maket the bright/natural speaker was Monitor Audio silver 100. A good speaker but not my taste (too bright for me). At home, first try, I put this Wharfedale on Marantz 1506 receiver. The sound it was very bottomed because both the speaker and the receiver it was on the warm signature side and the sound result was very dull! But, when I added in this chain the Emotiva bass x 300 power amp, the same Wharfedale speakers became alive (booom!!!). Sound got a volum, dynamic, bass has more power and vitality, it was like a have a subwoofer in the room (but not the most clearest bass I ever heard-you can't have them all :) ). And even the high frecvency become more rafinet and more like "in front of you"! They become another speakers after I pair them with Emotiva 150w power!!! If you have this Wharfedale must pair with a muscle and dynamic amp, not just because their poor 87db sensitivity but for their strong personality and signature in sound! Do Not use a warm signature amp with this speakers, only if you want to boil your room atmosphere :) !!!!
    This is my system chain and impressions not in order of importance:
    1 17 square meters irregular room, more like a "D" shape, 3.10m high, with lot of open doors! This is one on the most important part of my system chain which has the greatest impact on sound, this is a given...
    2 Laptop with hdmi cable for preamp
    3 Preamp Marantz 1506 (too warm with no detail, but very musical and delicate)
    4 Amp Emotiva BassX 300 (muscular amp with natural sound, extraordinary atack and aggressivity)
    5 QED XT40 cables (no comment)
    6 Speakers stands full with sand (for robustness of bass)
    7 Wharfedale Diamond 225 60cm from the wall, 190cm beetwen them (very easy to listen speaker with warm signature and top design)
    8 and my hi fi ears :) a very personal and subjective piece of gear...most important part of the chain :)
    I am very satisfied with this "hi fi chain" with a well balanced sound, with a warmth character just the way I like it!

  • @marcosr2
    @marcosr2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently using a Pioneer SB22-LR with an Allo Volt+D amp and the Topping E30 DAC, although everyone says the Pioneer SB22-LR is neutral for warm, the sound I have in this setup is very cold and bright, unpleasant, if I include the Wharfedale Diamond 225 instead, will I notice improvement? I need more depth, warmth and body to match this dac and this amp (which are neutral.) In your experience what do you think?

  • @robertbradley6393
    @robertbradley6393 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Tharbamar

  • @Mark-ro5zg
    @Mark-ro5zg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the 225's really have a 6.5" woofer? These are similar in size to the Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 speakers. I measured to the outside of the surrounds and it only measures 5.5" on the Elac's.

  • @moto-rambler
    @moto-rambler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PLEASE review the Mission QX-2 bookshelf.

  • @taher3mg
    @taher3mg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the helpful honest comparison, I would like to know about Wharfedale EVO 4.2 in comparison with the above speakers in terms of sound stage and highs, did you try them? I can see that you appreciate speakers that have great extended high end sound (me too), evo 4.2 seams to me a ready combination of diamond 225 &Aperion tweeters in one, It will be interesting if you reviewed the EVO 4.2

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m going to review it soon, thanks

    • @taher3mg
      @taher3mg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tharbamar Thank you ... great news

  • @redforrori
    @redforrori 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do do you think the extra money is worth it for the Wharfedale Reva 2 still over the D225? Thank you :)

  • @FarHagh
    @FarHagh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Interesting view. Based on the demo here alone, the Triangles are more engaging and detailed, without getting bright. Not considering the price, I would pick the 225 around 30 years ago when all my collection was crappy copies on cassette, as they seem more forgiving!

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TH-cam demos don’t do any justice of real sound.

    • @JohnBog
      @JohnBog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tharbamar So would you say that the 225s or the triangles sound more impressive?

    • @JohnBog
      @JohnBog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tharbamar actually, let me rephrase that question - where do you think the 225s stand overall compared to all of your speakers?

  • @wiebl5266
    @wiebl5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for the review. Your dedication to the sound demo... is so valuable. I'm wondering what would you recommend - that you think performs better than the wharfedale d225 at around that price range? thank you for making time for me.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's very hard to beat in terms of price to performance, you just need to pair them with right components to get the best out of them, thanks

    • @wiebl5266
      @wiebl5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tharbamar and what kind of components does it sound good?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Powerful Class D amp or Hight current Class AB amp will bring the best out from them, thanks

  • @kwangnam8320
    @kwangnam8320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi everyone, if compare the 225 with Diamond 11.2, which one is better? In terms of bass response, mid range and upper.

  • @MattZildjian
    @MattZildjian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had the PSB P5's and thought they were really bright and harsh, I swapped them for the Diamond 220's, much better but I often wish for more bass. I have my bass turned up slightly on the amp for the 220's.

    • @tcc5750
      @tcc5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      225 has more bass than 220 but larger size too

  • @andreassouth1523
    @andreassouth1523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice comparison. At 12.41 wf 225 give you that "umph" lower bass kick very distinguish,always compared to Borea BR03.Transition shifts are way better.Also fills the room with sound very easily with great mids and relaxing highs without beeing bright,ear fatigue or harsh.The difference in build quality is obvious, in favor of wf225.Multi award-winning speakers from many websites and magazines as best speaker until 1000$.Vote for wf225.

    • @ManuelMedellin.
      @ManuelMedellin. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Borea line won EISA Best Buy Award, EISA most respected Award in HIFI in Europe.

  • @jaytorr6701
    @jaytorr6701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmm.. The 225 and 12.1 are similar price. Maybe a comparison between them?

  • @aldoporopat1282
    @aldoporopat1282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Thanks for the comparisons ...even with the you tube compression , I found the triangles much more realistic of sound reproduction .. the 220s sounded kinda boomy and muffled in the lower end... instrument separation was better with the triangles as well for these ears, thanks again I enjoy your videos👍

    • @gasolin75
      @gasolin75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's the diamond 225 not 220

    • @-MarkWinston-
      @-MarkWinston- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • @weaselpopper
      @weaselpopper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The spacer works but if you go too high bass notes will lose definition. I did it to my D220`s and had to just use small thick metal washers for a slight difference the plastic spacers used here were too tall for D220. This series of Diamonds shine for their midrange voicing. And you can listen all day with zero fatigue as they are very flat throughout compared to most in this price range. The boom you are hearing is in the recording, the lower bass the D225 exhibited in the sound freq test you could hear come in at a much lower freq. The Bro3 just stops it`s low end at the kick spot so sound tighter. That same kick spot is also present in the D225. Listen again. Just bought the D225`s they are still available and being sold, at a bargain price so I get to do it again.

  • @decoryder
    @decoryder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok, listening to the original track on a pair of ELAC Debut Ref. DBR 62's to the original soundtrack for comparison, and the recording above:
    The Triangles sound more 'realistic' in the treble, with better instrument separation. The Wharfedales have better bass and dynamics, and the midrange seems more 'integrated', since the treble is slightly rolled off. The flute at the end of the demo really shows the difference: It sounds really harsh and loud on the Triangles, and much smoother and natural on the Wharfedales; given the fact that this is an in-room recording, where most of the sound is lost, I think the Triangles can get bright and fatiguing, at least in in this comparison. Myself, I never had any luck with 'revealing' speakers, they always end up bothering me during long and/or loud listening sessions - YMMV.
    If I had to pick between the two pairs, I would choose the Wharfedales, since they will be more compatible with a wide range of sources of different quality, and will play louder without killing my ears.
    Thx Tharbamar - very helpful review, as always.

  • @wiebl5266
    @wiebl5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tharbama, thank YOU. Do you think it pairs well with a more cheerful, warm or neutral amp? And when you say high current you mean 140 wpc? I'm wondering do you have any experience with the Wharfedale 11.2, the specs looks the same, would you still go for D225?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry it’s not about Watts, I meant good power supply is a must for sound quality, try something from Marantz PM Series etc., Neutral with a little warmer side of sound signature amps pair well with many different speakers. To be honest I have no experience with 11.2 to give you answer on that, if you just want to enjoy your music I would suggest Denton 80th speakers, which I like the most in Wharfedale two way bookshelf speakers. Thanks

    • @wiebl5266
      @wiebl5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much. I appreciate your honesty and straight talk.

  • @MrRajnambiar
    @MrRajnambiar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Diamond 225 vs Klipsch RP600 - can we hope of a similar comparison?

  • @pandujatiutomo2609
    @pandujatiutomo2609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this awesome comparison, my next request please review Mission QX-2 and compare to them, because QX-2 have so good review at AV forums, hifi choice and what hifi.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t think I can get them for samples here in the U.S.

  • @legaspi89
    @legaspi89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does wharfedale 225 compare to the wharfedale 10.2 speaker?

  • @sickshotshow
    @sickshotshow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi! I love your channel and your reviews! I actually bought the Wharfedale Denton 80th because of your comparison with Kef LS50. How do the Wharfedale Diamond 225 compares with the Denton 80th? Thanks

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Denton 80th is more refined and better sounding speaker for me, thanks

    • @sickshotshow
      @sickshotshow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tharbamar thank you very much for your opinion! All the best!

  • @gnd144
    @gnd144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank-you for your in depth comparison review. Q:Tharbamar, what would you choose PSB P-5 or Wharfedale 225? Thanks again Sir.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      D225 have better midrange and deeper Bass, P5 have top to bottom good balanced neutral sound. Both speakers do not have bright sound signature, which is why I like them both, thanks

    • @gnd144
      @gnd144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tharbamar Thank-you for responding, much appreciated.

  • @CinemaDemocratica
    @CinemaDemocratica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you mention the manufacturer and model of your stands in this video?

  • @odannyblueso
    @odannyblueso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    please compare ELAC DBR62 vs WHARFEDALE EVO 4.2, Please

  • @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
    @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice comparrsion ! Stand came in today , Monoprice was quick , going to set mine up like you did , again thanks for the video ! How does the jbl 530s compare ? I love them and the 580s are killer very well phase alighned for a total of 4× 6.5 inch woofers 😆

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      530 have better stereo image than BR03 for me, thanks

    • @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
      @tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Tharbamar thank you , your doing a great job really enjoy the channel !

  • @user-zh7eo2ul2v
    @user-zh7eo2ul2v 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best budget bookshelf speakers - Canton GLE 436.2! Really have very good sound! 👍 Have great bass! 👍 38 hz! Today two ✌ models best budget speakers !!! Canton GLE 436.2 and very good budget speakers Mohr LS20 (bookshelf) and SL20 (floor)! 👍

  • @Slickman2006
    @Slickman2006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about the Triangle EZ line?

  • @lzytek
    @lzytek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In another recent br3 review, the reviewer says br3 is bad at mid range and higher. Since both speakers in your review show similar performance at mid range and higher, does that mean both are bad?

  • @zogzog1063
    @zogzog1063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love your reviews even though I run Emm Labs, Pass, and Magico.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that! Thanks

  • @RainbowCharade
    @RainbowCharade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok...where do Debut 6.2s fit please??!

  • @Eyerex
    @Eyerex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been thinking about buying a set of Wharfedale Diamond 225 for a while now as my JPW Sonata's like me are starting to show there age

  • @YannickKhong
    @YannickKhong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hell yeah D225 owner here

  • @drazenbabich
    @drazenbabich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Diamond 225s are still a golden example in their class after all these years - still hard to beat. They're bettered by 11.2s, true, but that's another class both in performance and price range.

    • @Beathoven007
      @Beathoven007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own the Diamond 11.2 for a secondary setup, but the 12 series are the current bar standard. The Wharfedale Evo 4.1 is in my opinion one to look for to be fully satisfied. I own the 4.2 and when I would replace the diamonds it would be for the Evo 4.1. Both the 4.1 and 4.2 are definite purchases for an average home.

    • @drazenbabich
      @drazenbabich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Beathoven007 Diamomd 12.2 just didn't hit it with me. Prefer more balanced warmer notes of 11.2, so that's what I stuck with. I am also a visual guy and 11.2 just projects a slightly higher level of opulence and sophisticated design detail, hardly found in this more pedestrian class of speakers. This is all however very subjective, what works for some doesn't for others. Great to be able to have the option to choose, though.
      Evo's are different class altogether, both componentry and quality-wise, likely to come with slightly subtler, more upper class sound profile too. Cheers.

  • @BogdanDorianC
    @BogdanDorianC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Diamond 225 have made an amazing impression with you, Tharbamar, right? I can get them in my country at about 200USD/180EUR. I am afraid, however, they will not match my expectations in terms of highs. They seem to be really laid back and warm sounding. Am I right?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It will be depending on paring components but if you are after highs like from B&W speakers, may not work for you.

    • @BogdanDorianC
      @BogdanDorianC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tharbamar Yes I actually love B&W when it comes to highs. Thank you for your answer.

  • @toddhupp
    @toddhupp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    interested in you opinion on ML 35

  • @wiebl5266
    @wiebl5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your sound clip, plus your description, have convinced me to buy the wharfedale d225. On it's way to me, will update you. Your dedication to this hobby is... beyond words. I wonder, would you be willing to sell me a pair of your DIY interconnects of speaker cables?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I do not sell cables, thanks

    • @wiebl5266
      @wiebl5266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate your reply.

  • @jiancongwang1268
    @jiancongwang1268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's a good amp to pair with the broke?

  • @reinhartfrais8549
    @reinhartfrais8549 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello
    Thank you for your great revews .
    I am looking for a bookshelf speaker up to 2000us.
    Very Musikal i listen for 4 to 6 houers'no sharp highs sweet highs 'great sweat mids for vocals, bass is not so important .i dont like analytical listening my music is classic chamber music piano vokals guitars aswell as jazz.
    Thank you for your help
    Reinhart

  • @makarhomenko6394
    @makarhomenko6394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Triangle Borea BR03 SupeR!!!

  • @burghelvasile3313
    @burghelvasile3313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dali oberon 3 vs Triangle borea br 03? Amp Marantz pm 6006. Pop music, dance, rock ballads. Thank you.

    • @timovanderkeijl1439
      @timovanderkeijl1439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tried them both, found the triangles have a bit more soundstage(even bigger than the already big stage of the oberons) and are more engaging. Oberons have a bit deeper base in my experience. In the end i returned the oberons en went with the triangles.

  • @williamjueschke9960
    @williamjueschke9960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I admit, the drums sound more present with Diamonds 225’s.

  • @b10-archive
    @b10-archive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I recently bought the 225s based on your high quality reviews

    • @BogdanDorianC
      @BogdanDorianC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And? What do you think of them out of the box? I know they need 40+ hours of break-in, but still, can you give an opinion?

    • @b10-archive
      @b10-archive 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      BogdanDorianC I’m satisfied with them. The music is very detailed and not fatiguing. They’ve been fun to win so far.

  • @makarhomenko6394
    @makarhomenko6394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Triangle Borea BR03 VS Klipsch rp600m please!

  • @blaze2051
    @blaze2051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you review Magnat Signature 503 3-Way

  • @skeletronxxprime6277
    @skeletronxxprime6277 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about do review xtz spirit 4 ?

  • @beefbottom
    @beefbottom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice review. What about compared to Elac b6.2.

    • @AmbientWanderer
      @AmbientWanderer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are well over rated in my opinion .to me they sounded extremely dull.

  • @jacobfields5623
    @jacobfields5623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Little confused on your frequency response graphs. Why are you only displaying data up to 200hz?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong graph was used in this video. Thanks

  • @the-Alexandrus
    @the-Alexandrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What speakers do you personaly like? I'd like them not too bright with enough bass and a wide scene! Please, tell only 1 or 2 for the price range under 500 USD. I'm not sure what I will hear, but I'd like to buy some speakers, that I'll enjoy! What do you think about Audio Bronze 100, Borea BR03, Wharfedale Diamond 225, Klipsch RP-600M, Elac Debut Reference DBR62, Dali Oberon 3, SVS Prime Bookshelf and at what price is the next step forward!?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please see my review of all the speaker in you list which I did review most of them, LS50 Meta, 706 S2, KEF R3 etc, are next level up for upgrade
      I have B&W 706 S2, Wharfedale Evo 4.2, Quad S2, CSS 1TDX Superior, Aperion V8T Concert Tower and KEF R11 speakers are my current speakers.

    • @the-Alexandrus
      @the-Alexandrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tharbamar Thanks! I like your reviews a lot!

    • @the-Alexandrus
      @the-Alexandrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tharbamar What speakers are better: ELAC Debut Reference DBR62 or ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52!? The last one? But I cant find them in Ukraine...

    • @the-Alexandrus
      @the-Alexandrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's really hard to tell, what I'll like when I hear, but I'd like to do some homework first.

  • @higobatman
    @higobatman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please! Testa as Elac Reference DBR-62.

  • @mmaphotographer
    @mmaphotographer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could someone please suggest speaker stands for the Wharfedale Diamond 225 speakers? The stands will be on a rug (not a hard floor) and should be adjustable so that the speakers are the proper height for the listener who whom will be seated. Thanks for any suggestions!!! Also, does anyone here have the Wharfedale Diamond 220C center speaker? Any thoughts on it are appreciated.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      24” Tall stand is all you need, check out Sanus or Monoprice.

    • @mmaphotographer
      @mmaphotographer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tharbamar Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. After reading it, I just ordered Sanus speaker stands.
      Last month I was about to purchase the Triangle Borea BR03 speakers when I came across your video comparing them to the Wharfedale Diamond 225 speakers. I am very satisfied with the Wharfedale speakers that I purchased as the result of watching your video. Thank you very much for providing such great reviews on audio equipment!

  • @alainbesario6679
    @alainbesario6679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it bottoms down to personal preference and electronic matching, base on the vid borea not bright but just because if its upper mid forward character it seems bright, needs to be matched w/ warmer electronics, I believe Denon amps don't have that character, while wharfedales are a bit warmer due to upper highs recessed and not so upfront in character, it needs to be matched with amps that have good authority a neutral character to shine it out, so synergy is the bottomline. Both speakers are good in their respective price range

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disagree, it is bright, my b&w 706 S2 @100+dB sounds much warmer than BR03 at 85db. If you look at the graph D225 even have slightly more forward character than BR03, FYI, my recording is only about 65% of actual sound quality. Have you listened to Denon PMA-SX11? If not then stop judging the product without actual experience, I’m sharing my experience with honest advice, BR03 not worth the money it’s just contract manufacturer cheap product.

  • @AromaFrank
    @AromaFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, which bookshelf speakers would you suggest best for music for up to around $700 ? I have a small room 8x8. I use the Rotel A11 Tribute amp. I have a active sub as well.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would suggest Klipsch RP-600M, ELAC DBR62 , Wharfedale Evo 4.1, B&W 606 S2, probably 606 S2 will be very good match with your amplifier, thanks

    • @AromaFrank
      @AromaFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tharbamar Thanks so much I will look into them. What about Evo 4.1 ?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh I meant to say Evo 4.1 but power handling is not going to be as good as others.

    • @AromaFrank
      @AromaFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tharbamar It needs more than 50w ?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it will not be able to play as loud as others.

  • @manardh7387
    @manardh7387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hear the Triangle seems to have a bit more dynamic reach, and the highs are more prominent. The Wharfedale seems a bit muddy even with a slight better bass definition. Great job on the comparison.

    • @daniel1233
      @daniel1233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phantasm1004 Possibly, he summarized my opinion on the little brothers of the two, the D220 and BR02. I like the triangles a lot better than the d220 especially when it comes to vocals, d220 sounds muddy and unfocused.

    • @ibz925
      @ibz925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@daniel1233 the 225 is a quite different from the 220... It has a bigger bass driver, and they are pretty amazing. I got them recently and have paired them with a NAD 3020 and the sound is just phenomenal

  • @Nicnackity
    @Nicnackity 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would be nice to compare to Q3030i

  • @isabellarose119
    @isabellarose119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I ask where you got your speaker stands? Thank you

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m using custom made 24” stands, thanks

  • @benjaminqilafku5714
    @benjaminqilafku5714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    OT. Some albums off the beaten path. 1 Huun-Huur-Tu - Orphan's Lament 2 These Trails - These Trails - 1973 3 Bonnie Dobson Good Morning Rain 4 Amadou & Mariam Dimanche a Bamako 5 John Renbourn...Sir John Alot 6 Johnny Lytle The Loop 7 Harvey Mandel - Cristo Redentor 8 Vince Guaraldi Trio A Charlie Brown Christmas 9 Ry Cooder & Vishwa Mohan Bhatt - A Meeting by the River 10 The Pentangle The Pentangle I have a habit of listening my music through iem from my DAP when I take my usual afternoon nap. There are about 6000 albums in my 2 TB music library so some time I listen to albums I never listen before. Twice it happened to me to wake up to the omg what a treat, refering to albums 6 and 7.Enjoy your music not your gear.

  • @chaarrrt
    @chaarrrt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello! How would you say these Borea BR03 compare to Monitor Audio Bronze 2 / BX2?

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be honest I didn’t like either of those.

    • @ManuelMedellin.
      @ManuelMedellin. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tharbamar My god your Electronic must suck, Monitor Audio are also just a really damn good Company. The Silver line received the EISA award 2021, the most respected HIFI Award in Europe.

  • @cybergod77
    @cybergod77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Triangle is better in terms of detail (focus on the rattle sound) and sub-bass (11:12-35). Thks for the demo
    Pls demo the triangle Titus EZ and Comète EZ, thks

    • @trungvang417
      @trungvang417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I concur. Triangle has better detail

    • @flrn6233
      @flrn6233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I heard the same

    • @edp6364
      @edp6364 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comète EZ please

    • @AmbientWanderer
      @AmbientWanderer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also heard the same. The drums sounded much more realistic on the Triangles.

  • @geoemm
    @geoemm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both of them are 400€ in eu. But for 50€ more I would go with Klipsch

  • @CheliOS_1
    @CheliOS_1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hy people, who know... Warfdale 225 and Marantz PM-52 , is good combination? Thanks (My sistem)

  • @Mark198d
    @Mark198d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You decided to keep the Diamond 225 as your budget speaker over the Denton 80th? I thought you mentioned before that you thought the Denton's were better, but I might be wrong. For sure the build quality/fit and finish of the Denton 80th is superior to both Diamond 225 and Borea BR03, probably better than anything at $600 price point and below (nicest veneer). But I can understand if you want warmer, fuller, more laidback sound to pick Diamond 225, it is a very musical sounding speaker.

    • @Tharbamar
      @Tharbamar  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do love Denton 80th but please remember Denton 80th was not entry level speakers before it was discounted.

    • @klemcga
      @klemcga 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tharbamar How do they compare?

  • @thenicefamily2078
    @thenicefamily2078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats your sound demo song

  • @johnlong9862
    @johnlong9862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👍 a good sound clip comparison is way better than a thousand words.

    • @gnd144
      @gnd144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agree.

  • @charleyweinhardt
    @charleyweinhardt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:17 I'm thinking these speakers being so similar with there ups and downs are in indication test setup is a factor in the results. those are huge resonance dips you got there...

  • @boubuko
    @boubuko 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    listening the video, it seems the warefedale over interprating the bass medium! The triangle are clear with a certain limitation, but very clear and clean.