Why Metallica Tuned DOWN 👇 (And Then Tuned Back UP 👆)
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Metallica's classic albums were in E standard tuning. In the mid 90s Metallica tuned down to E flat, then to drop C, and then gloriously returned to the good-ol' EAGDBE. But Metallica still play half step down live. So, what's the deal with Metallica tunings?
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Do you need that Metallica tuning timeline image? If yes, I'll post it for TeleGang, link in descrription \m/
Hey, would you ever do a video called something like... What if Dave Mustane was never kicked out of Metallica? And What would the band Megadeth be without Dave Mustane helping start Megadeth?
Also I have some Metallica and other Thrash, and Heavy Metal videos on my channel as well, you can feel free to check out. I'd like to know what you think. I did a ranking on the Metallica Albums recently this year, as well as I have an older one where I had a different ranking about 2 1/2 years ago in 2018.
@@multijamesbondfan People often suggest that, but my answer is "Video not possible, cause I think Metallica still would've broken up"
@@AndriyVasylenko you got GD reversed in the description
I would suggest an idea for a future video, but all of the good ideas have already been made lol.
The fact that Metallica played a drop G# still baffles me to this day
Edit: lmao nice sponsor transition
Even more than that: James's guitar was in drop G#, while Kirk's was some really mental tuning (if anything, we're talking about Invisible Kid from St Anger)
@@AndriyVasylenko I believe Kirk was using B standard or something related to it
I call that Range my man lol
@@Sean-yd4uk Kirk was using a weird tuning but the lowest note was only E flat
Kirk tuning was basic a d# standard with one other string tuned down
I can’t imagine Metallica without Hetfield as vocals.
Look up some of the shows in 2000 that James missed. Jason and guest vocalists sang instead of him.
@@maxzubic Ok, but I don’t wanna watch them. To me, Metallica without Hetfield doesn’t exist.
Well, then you simply have a very limited imagination
@@spaomalley Idk dude, that was kinda offensive.
u gonna cry?
Metallica's proof you don't need to tune low to be heavy, just creative. Sure low tuning sounds amazing but so does standard tuning stuff and it's about what you do with the tuning that counts
aaaaand that's what the next video's about )
@@AndriyVasylenko
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I recorded an EP recently in standard tuning for college and my fellow students were surprised and impressed how heavy it was. I'm a believer in you can make any tuning work if you know what you're doing, there is no limit only your own self doubt or lack of skill creatively.
Never even seen a need to detune when you can just get a 7-string. There may be one or two cases where a lower riff would be easier to play on an open string than on the low B string but I rarely seem to encounter this issue.
You could always use an 8 string tuned to drop E, then you can switch between standard, B, and Drop E without tuning down
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Thank GOD someone finally talks about Metallica's tuning. Awesome content, frriend!
there's another video about Metallica's tuning coming up ))
@@AndriyVasylenko Awesome! \m/ \m/
Can you talk about Tapes Recording tricks they use's ...sort of pitch and speeds influences....they use to record slower versions (tighter tempo) and speed it up till it reach the pitch of Eb or D# even Standard Em tunning with the low E drop to D#..... You know that kind of stuff...thanx
Sad But True in D was actually Bob Rock’s idea. The band was playing a ton of E, and Bob suggested that they tune down to D standard to get heavier sounds. Sad But True just happened to be the next song they were recording. They liked it in D standard, and it stuck.
D standard is heavy as fuck
Kirk and Lars's tongue thing is giving me anxiety
I need to bleach my eyes real quick
Yep me too homie...
honestly im fine with it lol, maybe its because im an LGBTQ+ member and i just think "ha, kirk is just like me lol"
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@@tknzero8027 ey no
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It's like the same thing with
System of a Down
Serj Tankian got old and He lost his voice from singing *REALLY AGGRESSIVELY* in the first 2 albums
System Of A Down actually tuned up in 2005, from Drop C to Drop C#. Even live performances of old songs were in Drop C#.
@@maxzubic that's true
But I was taking abt Serj Tankians voice
first 3 albums actually.
and they ironically tuned up their guitars when serj's voice was getting weaker
@@JPX64Channel is that so?
Thank you for this piece of Info 👍
It’s always baffling to me how that shy, skinny, ugly kid (with all due respect, love and admiration) 1:56 became the ultimate metal frontman... I mean, just listen to him in Seattle ‘89... 2 different human beings.👏🏽💪🏽🤘🏽
Lol, now I'm genuinely curious in knowing which metal bands had/have attractive men as their frontmen, in your opinion ahah.
@@HeathenDance well, dave mustaine is a handsome guy back then
No homo tho
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Girls I hung out with back in the day were kinda goofy over Mike Howe.
@@HeathenDance Chris Cornell lol
James is a really hunky guy, I think everyone was awkward as a kid.
Ok so chart put into words
Kill Em All: E
Ride The Lightning: E
Master of Puppets: E, D (The Thing)
Justice: E
Black Album: E, D (Sad but true), Eb (God That Failed)
Load: Eb
Reload: Eb, D (Devil’s Dance), C# (Bad Seed)
St Anger: Drop C, Drop C# (Dirty Window), Drop Ab/Modified Eb* (Invisible Kid), Drop Bb (The Unnamed Feeling)’
Death Magnetic: E, Drop D (All Nightmare Long)
Hardwired: E, D (Dream No More)^
* Two Guitars in different tunings, the tuning is Eb, C#, Eb, F#, Bb, Eb
‘Chart says there are two alternate tuned songs even though there are three
^Says there’s another which I don’t know
I think it's just Dream no More
The thing that should not be was actually drop c#
@@dubsbitch24
No
@@dubsbitch24 It's in D standard
@@Wind-nj5xz I’ve seen Kirk himself say otherwise
last time I was this early metallica still had long hair
Metallica sounds best in E. It best compliments james' vocals
Timeline was a bit confusing, i saw AJFA tuned in Eb XD Was about to Rage
0:14 which begs the question...
*W A T E R*
Imagine if Cliff Burton never died and Jason Newsted auditioned as a vocalist
That's intriguing
I love Jason's voice. I've seen them live three times and Whiplash was always a massive highlight because of him.
Would Cliff become the lead bassist and Jason become lead vocals/rhythm bassist?
An other reason I thought of is that E standard tuning is by essence tighter than the other tunings. And so, it fits the speed and precision of thrash metal so well. When you tune down your guitar, the strings are more loose and thus the picking is more "wavy" but less precise, perfect for a groovy heavy sound. That's why it's great for albums with mid tempo songs like Load and Reload, even the Black album and Youthanasia to some extend. And so when Metallica returns to their thrash roots with death magnetic and hardwired they maybe tried to recapture this tightness by tuning to E standard again
The looseness in the strings in lower tunings can be mitigated by using thicker strings
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I've always said by 92, his voice got weaker and softer for the long run. U can tell he didn't have that same power during 92. 93 his voice was gone.
Also great u pointed out that he performed vocally demanding songs from the 80s, which is crazy. Didn't think he'd do that.
And as of 2020, he covered Would? again..... That was a surprise
The Would cover is actually amazing, I was so impressed with James' voice yet all I saw on social media was people shitting on the cover... fools!
James now is in his second prime vocals. His range now is the biggest, because the lows are the strongest, the highs are still pretty much there, and the timbre in general is badass
@@AndriyVasylenko I was going to say the same... ESPECIALLY now, on 72 Seasons!
Is your hair inspired by Jason Newsted, i've been wondering this for a long time
Inspired by practical need ))
Mine is :)
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Bob Rock suggested drop tuning for Sad But True, just for something different on that album.
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James vocals were so much better before the Black Album.
Hetfeild 1987-1992 was the best hetfeild vocal wise
R.I.P. hahaha
@@Evil-Never-Dies his voice got better tho
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I disagree that the arrangements are less advanced than the early stuff. The early albums are basically just two guitars playing the same riffs. The Load era stuff has four or more guitar tracks on it. As a kid it was confusing trying to learn all the load stuff from books because of all the different parts. The riffs are definitely easier on load but the arrangements are crazy.
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That was a fun vid brother
Great video, I didnt know my favorite band ever even played below Eb, I thought Sad but true was their hardest hitting song (to me) and didnt expect it in drop D.
D standard
Your awesome!!
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What about when they tuned down seek and destroy to D standard live from 2000-2015?
Only to randomly going back to Eb live
@Chazike I kinda like seek in D standard.
James voice was still pretty high pitched in the kill em all days. He was only 19 when they recorded the album. Then he got older, his voice got deeper (not very noticeable compared to rtl but very noticeable compared to mop ajfa and the black album) and then his voice gave out. He likely tuned it to D cuz of how high pitched it was and how fragile his voice was at the time.
Dude did you upgrade your camera? The video of you is looking smooth and luscious! BTW, would love to see a video from you about "What if Metallica had gotten John Bush to sing for them". If nothing else we could hear you talk about the time John Bush got onstage with Metallica and absolutely CRUSHED "The Four Horsemen".
E flat is the best tuning of all time.
It's funny, I listen more live Metallica than the studio versions nowadays, so I kinda prefer the lower tuning
My only discontent with flat tuning is that I have to retune instrument to play it ))
Bruh every single time I play half step down I just get a random urge to play a standard tuning song. Then 5 mins later I see a song I want to learn I go to some tabs then I see it’s a different tuning so I have to spend another 5 minutes putting my high E in hell
@@Creatic58 ahahaha it happens to me too, wish I had the money to buy a guitar that automatically tunes itself
Always great analysis 👍
Can you make a video on Lars' drum tuning 😂😂😂
Hello there david
Not funny lol
the omnipresent David
He tuned to S# on St Anger
@@AndriyVasylenko seriously even if you’re popular and so is David, it’s not funny
I’m hoping that they go down to Drop C or D for the next album at least for two to four songs. I think that variety would have helped Hardwired feel a little more diverse.
I hope that they go down to Drop B or Drop A
Learned a lot in this vid
7:00.
Ah, yes: the Great Watermelon Explosion of 1995.
Ye don’t research kurt cobain if u didn’t know
Oh, I knew about Kurt Cobain. I was just making a joke about the image.
@@TotoDG yeh kurt cobain shot himself in the head Which is what that image meant considering there was a nirvana picture before
I like that Metallica from the Load album and to the St Anger album tried something new.
I wish they play live in D Standard in the future. Sounds more powerful and emotional to me.
Just gotta say I'll really miss your content man! But I of course agree you should stop if makes you unhealthy. Keep rockin' either way
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Actually most Metallica records (at least on the first four albums) are tuned up a little bit higher than E which gives it more tighter sound. On some AJFA rough mixes some like Eye of the beholder are even tuned up half way.
We need a whole video on St Anger tunings
Do a video on lars many different drum kits and various set ups
The 1992 drum kit reigns supreme in sound (most epic toms ever) and style!!!
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really enjoyed this video!
I agree with you. Hetfield is a great sinker. He sinks so good.
You’ve been using a lot of footage from the Webster Hall concert lately. I was there!
I'm looking forward to lyrics analysis.
Lyrrrric analysis*
I'm not much of a lyricist, at least in English, but we'll see
@@AndriyVasylenko I've noticed a lot of repetetive lyrics in Metallica's songs, maybe you could find them.
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First four album standard E tuning then they drop down with some of the songs on Black. E Flatts like Slayer Nirvana Alice in Chains
I’ve been creating a compilation of Metallica songs played in C#. See, in music theory when talking about E tuning it’s usually referring to the key of e minor. So by switching to C# you get E major in the shape of C# minor. It’s obviously really muddy by Metallica standards but it creates a sort of magic with their music where you downtune enough to be relevant in modern metal but not down tuned enough to not have any kind of coherency in the instrument sound.
It’s a brutal tuning that lends well to older songs but not too muddy. It’s kind of a balance.
Master of Puppets was recorded in 435hz e-tuning (according to Ola Englund), just a friendly fyi :)
It would be cool to see more Metallica songs in a low tuning
Just like the studio version of 72 Seasons is in E Minor, and the Amsterdam show version filmed last week is in D# Minor.
It's interesting to think of the possibilities what they might have sounded like with a different vocalist....
Andriy, you have become a true metallica historian. You being a fan AND a skilled musician makes you perfect for the job. Have the actual metallica contacted you yet?
is that how to pronounce Kyuss because I can never figure it out, my family just thinks I'm saying "Kiss" weirdly
Kyouss
Kyuss - the y sounds like eye 👁
I used to say K-you-s. English is weird.
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I believe that Ride is slightly sharp from E standard.
Yep. Is E standard in 448hz
Its odd that often those who are perfect as a fit are often the last to see it. Its also hilarious that Lars has the sense of self worth that far exceeds his abilty. James on the other hand is model of the invaluable frontman with great vocal range, great screaming vocals, great singing vocals, and just as ideal on the stage without the studio effects. But then.you add on that James IS a riff machine also who IMO writes the BEST riffs in the business. The perfect balance of a catchy groove to grab the masses attention, while still maintaining high end technical integrity. James CAN br8ng the leads/ solos also and even put Hammett to shame, but has the clear understanding that the cornerstones of a great metal band are its riffs & percussions as a bedrock foundation. Not the leads. All this said, I would give my left nut to see either one of James teaming up with the smashing pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlain who in heavier pumpkins albums just fkn GOES OFF on the skins that is great at fusing jazz style percussions into heavy music. Chamberlain can easily produce a neil pert performance, only with no need for the drum set that was excess that resembled a fun park ride. I have seen Jimmy in concert take a basic trap set, add a couple of heavy kettles for extra mass and prove he IS a freak of nature drummer. I would have to imagine that if you took the heavy catchy riffs with solid groove and backed them up with similar talent on the percussions, I would easily bet the farm theyd produce a kick ass heavy album for the ages. Would love to see it happen.
This is amazing
In Wherever We May Roam Tour, when they played The Thing That Should Not Be, they tuned the guitar one step and a half down, like how they play nowadays
I love the thumbnail 😂
Talking of tuning down. I heard recently (Rick Beato mentioned it on a "What makes this song great" abot Master of Puppets) that Flemming apparently said thay tuned down to D and recorded at a slower tape speed, so that when it was played at full speed everything was tighter.... (Might partly explain why The Thing That Should Not Be was in D, on the album anyway).....
Is that James with Lars in 8:07?
LOL it is Jason. I get it.
I grew up learning Metallica songs from guitar world tabs. I remember when I noticed Metallica played their old songs in e flat. I thought my guitar was out of tune.
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@Andriy Vasylenko I think Don't Tread On Me is in Eb as well.
Don’t Tread On Me is in E Standard
@@jacobnelsen2786 You're right, just check it out with my guitar! 🤟
What I would absolutely love as metalligeek myself is a little insight on why and how did they film the seattle 89 shows: did hey really shoot three shows including spokane? Whose idea was it? How did the band approach it since I'm assuming they were pretty burnt after more than a year on the road?
I would die o have some kind of episode about it or the best would be to include this in the list of question to ask the band for the famous interview you're planning to make. Cheers from italy Andriy
When it comes to Metallica, the answer to any question after 1989 is sales
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6:59 I just feel like shouting out Drew Durnil for this photo
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James is still a awesome singer... a big reason why metallica is a hit..
There isn't a huge difference between drop C and drop D, nor E standard and D standard. But they give a different mellow feel. I don't really hear a big difference until there's drop A or seven strings.
But whatever makes them happy.
I feel it's the opposite - tuning down even slightly very much changes the tone of the guitar and also massively influences how the music feels to play, and to listen to. To my ears, a guitar sounds completely different going from E down to D, and it directly influences my playing. Tuning down a song like Sad But True was a brilliant piece of advice (thanks, Bob!), but especially for faster material or songs with a lot of notes, it doesn't work. Bands generally tune down too much, and they end up not sounding good.