Soybean Food Plot - Broadcast vs. 38in Wide Rows
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- In this video I compare broadcasted soybeans with wide row 38in beans. I planted most of my beans this year on wide 38in rows so I could cultivate between them like I do with corn to hopefully get better weed control.
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I admire the hard work put into this video as well your food plot process ongoing.
Nice experiment with the double planted single rows. I've always wondered about that. 😎
It didn’t quite work out as good as I had hoped. I don’t think my wide row beans yielded very good. The deer consumed the pods much faster than in the past. I’m back to broadcasting all my beans for faster canopy closure and even higher populations.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I find it the easiest broadcasting too. The deer consume them so fast where I'm from I hate to waste to much time 😂
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 I just put some in the ground today. I'm from SC hopefully the deer don't hit these as hard as they hit the ones I test plotted 6 weeks ago.
Awesome video!🎉 Thank You
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Your food plot is looking great. Looking forward to your other food plot videos. Great video enjoyed it
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Awesome video. I can’t believe how much work you do and that’s not including the video. Thank you
Yeah I love the habitat and food plot planting side of hunting almost more than the actual hunting LOL. Being able to hunt over what you created is just a bonus. Planting/ creating the situation is the fun part.
Don’t worry about the hate if that’s what you need to do about your weed issues. The one thing I will say about no till is, it takes a little time to get weeds under control. 1-2 years will still yield plenty of weeds. You have to keep burying those weed seeds deeper and deeper. I had an area I sprayed twice before planting because it always ended up full of weeds. I think deer pressure was as much a problem as the weeds coming up themselves. If you can get an area in rotation of rye and buckwheat for a couple years you may nearly defeat the weeds. I have been no till for 7-8 years and food plotting for 10 and still learn every day. My biggest issue in my plots is usually foxtail. My buckwheat plot still had a cluster of foxtail grow, but it never made it to a seed head before I terminated it. That was nice. Im going heavier on rye this fall and then assess the fall plots to see what route I go in the spring. It will either be straight buckwheat or a summer mix from greencover or vitalize seed.
I had a small plot right next to this area that was strictly no-till for about three years and I battled water hemp every year. I was planting rye every fall and letting it get tall in the spring and the rye thatch became too thick to seed my Brassicas into so eventually I had to till it up.
I agree it’s going to take lots of years to reduce the weeds. But this year in 2 small plots I drilled my corn into the rye thatch sprayed with a pre-emergent and ended up with no weeds first year. I’ll get that video out soon. That’s what I plan on trying next year, drill into the rye thatch and spray pre-emerge the day of planting.
Good stuff! I’d love to see the corn planting too. How many acres are you planting?
You will, I still have some corn videos to get out and I will have a end of summer update on all the corn and beans
Great video. I aways look forward to your videos
Keep them coming b
Bud.Cant wait for your Brassicas ones.u seen any nice bucks yet on Camera
I still have alot of cams to get out yet.
I like the contrast between you and Millenial Farmer. Tech versus thought. Millenial farmer is planting narrower rows to match the rows on the corn combine, his planter has more even seeding and he does not have deer browse problems, being on the northern plains.
The Millenial Farmer guy is on a level 100 times higher than me. He runs thousands of acres for a living. I’m just a little hobby food plot farmer LOL.
Approximately how many pounds of fertilizer did you use this year on a half acre planting? Did you fertilize only one time or more?
Fertilized only the day we planted. 3bags of 9-23-31 on the whole field. The other half of that field is pumpkins that we sell the the rd. So not much fertilizer. None of the beans are showing a Potassium deficiency yellow around the edges so that’s good.
I think you are underestimating the importance of sulfur had a bean field yellow once because it was low in sulfur
Your plots look incredible man. Ignore any hate you get. What main tractors and implements are you using this season? Just curious. 😃
We have an old Ford 2N that’s you saw in the video we use for planting and cultivating. We have a Ford 5000 for plowing and discing and a Massey Ferguson 65 for discing, brush hogging etc.
Love to see the line up of old school tried and true equipment. Which tractor would you say is your favorite and why? @@wisconsinwhitetail9744
My Earthway bag seeder took a crap after barely being a year old! Fortunately I was able to get the plot planted borrowing a friends Chapin bag seeder. What’s your preference? Did I just get a Earthway lemon?
Liked the Chapin but concerned the 1(lowest setting) isn’t small enough for broadcasting brassicas.
Can’t find the Earthway anywhere other than the internet. Tractor supply has the Chapin. Will need to replace the broken one soon for Winter Rye, Urea,etc
My earth-way is at least 3 yrs old now. Still works like it’s new. I don’t even use a setting on it like you said it’s too big for brassica seed. I just manually hold it open.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 thanks for the reply but I have an update. Was going to throw it out when I returned home but I sprayed white lithium WD on all the metal parts and it’s as smooth as can be and working great!
Great to see a young man that’s so passionate about everything Whitetails and hope you are able to incorporate that into making a living!
Have a great season!
My 2 row planter is set on 38 so I need the same tines that you have can you take a close up of tines thanks
Cultivating did ok in the beans but there was still alot of weeds I’m going to try and get a pre emergent for soybeans next yr and that should help a lot.
Spread milorganite on the beans the first couple weeks of growth when they're most susceptible to deer browse. Will keep them out of the beans long enough to give them a chance to grow.
Yeah, I’ve heard of people doing that and it works good. I’ve never tried it. Maybe I’ll have to consider in the future.
Can yput planter drop down to 30 inch rows to help with weeds?
Yes we could make the planter more narrow. But then we would have to adjust the cultivator and those bolts are all rusted on and it would be a pain. Plus this is obviously the same planter I use for corn and I like planting corn on these wide 38 inch rows because it seems like the deer utilize the corn more when planted wide.
How 50kg bags can you harvest in one acre
I have no idea what these beans yielded. I would guess between 40-50 bushels per acre.
60 inch corn? U see that yet? Looks good.
Yeah I have seen some videos on it. It would be cool to try I’m sure the deer would love the extra wide rows. If I did it I would just do 2 of my 38in rows and then a gap 4-5 ft for brassicas or soybeans.
Purslane is the weed I think that is growing along the bean rows
Yeah purslane is a crawling type of weed but not the one I pointed out by the beans.
Looks great but ya might wanna look into the “buffalo system”
Same results without all the soil destruction.
I have used the Buffalo system with the rye in the past. I’ll have a corn video coming out where I drilled the corn into the standing rye, it turned out great. Next year I plan to do some more Soybeans drilled into the rye.
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Geggers lice
RR extend or enlist=glufosinate see if someone can spot you a little Zidua😮
Yeah I’ve heard that enlist beans are great. Next year I’m going to try and get a good pre emergent. I used simazine on all my corn this year and was really impressed. Stopping the weeds with a good pre-emergent is more important than trying to kill the weeds after the fact within enlist or some strong post emerge.
Seems to me the broadcast beans were offering more forage per square foot than the row-planted beans. Less work and no need for repeated tillage, which damages the soil and brings up new weed seeds, every time. If it took more seeds per acre, but they canopied and took a lot less maintenance, isn't the cost about the same?
Why till in brassica seed? The first rain will have them germinating just fine. In fact, why not plant highly diverse mixes from the start? Include brassicas, clovers, grains and forbs in your initial planting, so you don't have to mess with additional tillage or spraying.
If you went to a restaurant and ordered dinner, but all they brought you was the chicken or steak, with no bread or veggies, would you call that a "meal"? It's really encouraging to see a young man experimenting with this kind of stuff, but you're stuck on old-world conventional farming techniques, when your goal is to provide food for wildlife. Diversity is what they need and actually what they demand. Instead of planting one thing here and one thing over there...plant a wide variety of plant types in one place, and then you can actually call it a food plot, instead a bean plot or a corn plot or a brassica plot.
They can get there diversity of plants from the habitat. I’m looking to attract them Nov-March when nothing is green. Brassicas and rye will be the only thing green and corn and beans will be the main winter food. And don’t forget about the 5-10 different Types of woody browse on the property in the winter. Ash, willow, dogwood, basswood, etc. I don’t need to have a salad bar with a bunch of diverse mixes for summer and September browse. What I need is a good crop of beans, corn and brassica for the time of year when there is a lack of high quality food. Right now a deer can get up out of there bed and within 100 yards there’s probably 10-20 different species of plants maybe more that they will browse.
I broadcasted along that edge because with the shade I new the weeds would be less of a problem there. If I get a good pre emergent for beans I won’t need to cultivate and I’ll be broadcasting all my beans. Maybe doing more no till beans with the rye method too. I’ll have a no till corn video coming out soon where I drilled into the rye and sprayed simazine. Very little weeds that way.
@@wisconsinwhitetail9744 - Keep experimenting with stuff, the way you have been, and you'll eventually come to see you're working way harder at this than you need to, and not achieving the results you could be. Your soil is really suffering, and you're endlessly fighting noxious weeds, because you're trying to work against natural processes, instead of working with them. There are no monocultures in nature, and not one species of wildlife evolved to live on a single species of plant. Eventually you'll come to understand that you could accomplish a lot more, by doing less harm and encouraging more things to grow, instead of fewer things. Plant true diversity in every plot, and every plot will be visited by deer and other wildlife, throughout more or less the entire year. A fragmented approach with always deliver fragmented results, like those you are currently seeing.
Beggars lice*
Beggars Lice is more of a woodland weed. Grows on ground that hasn’t been tilled more of a perennial. I haven’t seen any of it in any of my plots