Historian Ranks War Movies using Tiermaker (and other random live stream fun)
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Hey there, I can really recommend you to watch "The Pianist". It portraits the life in the ghettos of Warsaw during WWII really well and shows how musicians are sometimes more likely to survive such horrible times due to their talent. The movie is based on a real story and like "Schindlers Liste", chances are high that there might be someone chopping onions nearby in the end:)
I agree. It's a incredible movie.
I agree, I started watching that to pass time before eating dinner and ended up so into it that I watched the whole thing then.
The Pianist is in the same vein as Come and See.
Hard to watch anything Polanski’s dirty fingers are staining
It’s not really a war movie. It’s about the Holocaust, and not the war itself. More of a historical drama I’d say. Still, great film.
Come and See is an *Incredibly* hard watch. It just goes to show you how truly *brutal* the Eastern Front fighting was.
I must be terribly desensitized as I found it quite boring. I built it up in my mind quite a bit beforehand though.
@@juvandy me too. I heard everyone saying it's a masterpiece, a must watch, best ww2 movie ever made etc etc. I saw it and I thought it was amazingly bad... Schindler's list 100000000000000000x better.
@@thorbeorn4295 I found come and see to be better than Schindler list
I first read the title as "Ranking Wars using Tiermaker" and thought, that's kinda fucked up.
Lmao
Pointless anyways. Everyone knows the War of the Bucket is easy #1.
Lmao "not too many people died in this war so its not that important 1/10"
I love your channel! I just got obsessed with history 2 years ago and your material is so delicious for the pallet
The problem with Enemy at the Gates is the cringe of a love triangle
A detail I couldn't really get over was the accents. Everyone had either posh British accents or eloquent American dialect, in a movie specifically about the USSR fighting the Nazi's.
@@GABA-Gool would you rather have fake poorly done Russian accents? I wouldn’t
@@GABA-Gool The accents were handled really well in movies like the Death of Stalin. Instead of mimicking russian accents they localised each british accent to a specific part of Russia. For example, Stalin was said to have a thick Georgian accent, so they gave him a cockney accent to represent that. Thats the way of doing it imo
I've absolutely adored Master and Commander ever since it was released. It's one of those rare movies that every time I watch it, I'm just transported into that world and I completely suspend my disbelief.
Russel Crowe hit an amazing groove in the early 2000s. Seems like everything he was in is absolute gold. Gladiator comes to mind as well.
The battle scenes are great but other than that... for me it was a little uninspiring. The soundtrack is AMAZING!
@@Bayard1503 I can definitely understand why some people may not really enjoy the full movie. It's a very slow burning movie and heavy on atmosphere and that's not everyone's proverbial cup of tea... but it is mine lol.
1993 Stalingrad is my favorite movie that depicts the Eastern Front during WW2.
Good afternoon. Only found your channel, last week & am absolutely loving your content- thank you! First one was the Fallen of World War Two. VERY much enjoyed the Sabaton Bismark & No Bullet Fly reaction videos- all 4 of them!
We grew up watching a taped to VHS version of Memphis Belle, growing up: definetly needs a watch, Sir!
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Thank you Ben and welcome!
You should try to watch Paths of Glory if you get a chance. You were saying how it's a shame there aren't more good WW1 movies up there with 1917. Paths of Glory I think really nails the vibe of how war and the disconnect between the grunts / higher command makes for an inseparable gulf. Not to mention it uniquely takes the pov of the French army during WW1. Something we don't see often despite a lion's share of the war being lifted by them.
Also it's an interesting look into Kubrick during his earlier more workman years.
So Paths of Glory, 1917, Lawrence of Arabia, Doctor Zhivago, Galipoli, All Quiet on the Western Front makes my list of WW1 (or highly WW1 related) war movies that are worth the watch. (Blue Max and the Grand Illusion are on the list of supposedly very good that I haven't watched yet)
Damn, Last of the Mohicans is in my top 3 movies of all time... Daniel Day Lewis is so good in everything he does. Probably the greatest actor in history.
Or Lawrence Olivier, I guess.Shout out to Marlon Brando, as well (he was an influence on both Pacino and De Niro). Shout out to Meryl Streep, also
The warmly coloured one with the shirtless boys is 'Waltz with Bashir'. We watched it for uni - It's an animated movie about various Israeli soldiers' experiences during the 1982 Invasion of Lebanon. It's a great one.
If you get the chance, I urge you guys to check out The Killing Fields and First They Killed My Father. Not straight-up war movies, but good films in giving you an idea of what it’s like during the Cambodian genocide.
Come and See is one of the greatets films ever made.
Totally agree. A mustwatch)
Have to watch it too.
@@michaelaburns734 Its on youtube. Look for "Иди и смотри" and you should find it in HD with english subs.
It's a great movie, but man it gives me the heebie jeebies.
@@alekmaschmidt3965 It's a movie you only really watch once
Another Civil War movie to consider - Red Badge of Courage (1951) w/ Audie Murphy
I think Full Metal Jacket is a masterpiece consistently. You're right in that it's two different movies, the first one being about preparation for war, the second being about war itself. I've never seen another movie potray the crudeness and vulgarity of the common soldier more accurately (except maybe the Dirty Dozen), and its potrayal of war as farcial insanity rather than glorious fighting is just brilliant to me
11:20 Yea i've been to Auswitch.
It's weird, it's a weird place. The atmosphere is cold, even at 35C when i was there. It's place that just... shut's you up. Walking through a city sized camp, that's created purely for suffering and death, gives me chills again just remembering everything.
I'm glad i went, and 100% recommend it to everyone. But it very much is a not a nice or fun thing to visit.
I won'r ever forget that trip.
"The Thin Red Line" is S+ tier for me. Favorite movie of all time. The cast is ridiculous. The score is elite.
'That's the Plan" No plan survives first contact with an Airline.
If you're visiting Major War Sites, I have a rather unknown one that's pretty cool.
-Fort Stevens in Oregon.
While this fort seems fairly ordinary, it's the site of the ONLY World War 2 Battle to take place on American Soil. The Japanese submarine I-25 launched a bombardment against the fort, which guarded the Pacific entrance to the Columbia River. The Japanese bombardment caused very little damage due to the Base Commander ordering a blackout and ordering his men to hold their fire. Eventually, the sub was spotted by some civilian aircraft on a training flight, and US fighters exchanged fire with the sub and forced it to withdraw. Despite no casualties to either side and the only real damage being done to a small baseball field that had received the majority of Japanese shells, the attack helped spark the "West Coast Invasion Scare of 1942".
If you have not seen Restrepo. It is a documentary by Sebastian Junger who is a war correspondent on the war on Terror in Afghanistan in the Korengal Valley. It is strictly from the American point of view but it gives you a close up look at the effects of the war on soldiers from a unit who took a lot of fire.
The Dear Hunter and Paths of Glory are masterpieces, highly recommend.
Been through the Chickamauga battlefield before and it is a really good one. One of the better ones I've been in terms of looking like the era.
No stop at Kennesaw Mountain? I live right down the road, hope Ga treats you well!
I've been there before.
Come and see. The cranes are flying. The Brest fortress. Only old men fight. And the dawns here are quiet (1972). War and Peace (by Bondarchuk). Waterloo(1970) The white guard (or the Turbiny's days). Quiet Don. Stalingrad (German one). Das boot. War (2007). Purgatory (1997). Full metal jacket. Shindeler's list. The Pianist. Sobibor. 1917. All quiet on the western front (best ww1 movie ever). 9th company (9 рота). Alive (2006). Beneath Hill 60. The war horse.
I’m probably spelling this wrong, but when you were talking about World War One films (or lack thereof) I was wondering if you’ve seen Paschendale. It’s about a Canadian group during the war and I thought it was pretty decent when I watched in nearly 10 years ago. I’d like to watch it again and compare it to 1917 a bit.
If I had LOVED history while I was in school as much as I do now my GPA would be WAY better. I struggle getting through my last history class in college and it showed.
I want to say this about Gibson. He may not make (Or be apart of) the most accurate movies, but that man could tell a story.
As for Saving Private Ryan, it is not a true story, but it is historically authentic. It certainly feels like it takes place in Normandy in June 1944. The rescue mission would probably never have happened, but it does feel like it was there.
My favorite war movie was "Sargent York" from the old stuff. "Bridge Over the River Kui"(sp?) is good.
Sargent York and Tora Tora Tora are both up there for me I need to watch the longest day tho
Hacksaw ridge is in my top 3 movies of all time
Man some great movies missed off sadly
Zulu, Battle of Britain
Also for WW1, Beneath Hill 60 is pretty underrated
Love Beneath Hill 60 and Zulu)
Have fun in Georgia. I love ur videos!
If i remember correctly, Thin red line is that movie a friend and i picked because we saw George Clooney was in, saw the entire thing, felt satisfied and as the movie is ending looking at eachother and saying "where was he?" just to pop on screen for a few seconds giving a speech before the credits. Felt so funny and betraied that all i remember about the movie is him collecting the paycheck.
Seven Years War: Drums along the Mohawk and the Last of the Mohicans.
a few other great historical movies not listed here (which is really US centric btw) : Battleship Potemkine, Ben Hur, Joan of Arc, Conquest of paradise, Robin hood & Gladiator - all 3 from ridley Scott (even if many inacuracies in Robin Hood), The last of the Mohicans (you have to see it), Alexander by Oliver Stone, Path of glory (Kubrick), Cyrano de Bergerac, Alatriste, Henry V, Vikings (from Richard Fleisher), Dances with wolves, Troy, Barry Lindon, Amadeus, Don Juan, The fall, the young Karl Marx, Goodbye Lenin, 300 etc.
Not necessarily a war movie it is called "the boy in striped pajamas. however it is based in the setting of Poland during German occupation as you follow the child of a German officer who is in command of Auschwitz. And the child of a Jewish family who has been sent to the concentration camp. Wont touch on it anymore due to spoilers.
Yeah I've seen it, and man it's intense.
Ther German movie " Das Boot" in the long version ( the US cut is very bad ) and the soviet movie 70ties " Waterloo" its just glorious that they acually dressed up red army soldiers to have the mass infantry shots.
Pleased "Glory" and "Patton" were in thier proper place. Enjoy Georgia.
This man needs to learn about Nick Hodges. He needs to react to History Buffs. I'd watch it.
I know History Buffs well. I just feel like it’s already somewhat of a reaction channel itself.
Hey, loving these rankings and your other content! would love to see a reaction to the movie Amazing Grace about the abolition of slavery with William Wilberforce. I think they do a good job of involving his faith in the telling of the story, like they do with Desmond Doss in Hacksaw Ridge.
Amazing Grace is one of my favorite movies!
Full Metal Jacket most accurately depicts one of the most overused lines in the Marine Corps, “You think you effing made it?”
Boot camp is only a taste of what is too come and yet while you are in it you think it is everything. It lull’s you into a false sense of security. It is so awful, how can anything be worse? But in reality it is a short 13 weeks, basically a vacation, and the easiest thing a Marine (combat arms) will ever complete. I appreciate that from FMJ.
Jarhead was freaking awesome! Most war movies are action packed and continuous combat but I love how they show how boring war can be.
Courage Under Fire is always missing from these lists.
The only scene that is good from The Hurt Locker is the grocery store scene.
If interested in a really good movie about the American War in Afghanistan, The Outpost. Its a very very good movie while not only entertaining, is one of the best examples of Hollywood getting War "right" One of the actors in the movie was an actual participant in the battle for Kamdesh
I never knew full metal jacket had a second half of the movie till last year 😂
Also you need to watch Texas rising, it’s a short series about the Alamo and after. Not extremely accurate but it includes rumors and conspiracies at the time 🤷♂️ it’s a good watch
Generation War is something I watch through a few times, love that. Enemy at the Gates, 1917, band of brothers, the pianist.. there’s this movie about the Korean War that I can’t remember the name of, it’s in Korean and from that perspective.
Tae Guk Gi (The Brotherhood of War)? That's the most famous Korean made war movie
@@newzinski6946 no, it was about this guy being undercover with the North, trying to help us land at Incheon. Liam Neeson played Douglas MacArthur in it
@@ateddybear1392 Oh Operation Chromite. That's kinda of a meh over the top Korean war movie. There's definitely some better ones out there. Battle of Jangsari is better IMO.
Awesome video loved seeing your thoughts on all these great movies I suggest if you haven’t seen them yet kingdom of heaven, war and peace, and Stalingrad 1993 two of my favorites, also doctor zhrivago it isn’t entirely about war but what it has is great and is one of the rare war movies that works great with a romance story and still is my favorite movie of all time.
I would highly recommend The Pianist to everyone. Its a very heavy movie compareable to something like Schindler's List.
Have you seen The Blue Max? I think it’s a good WW1 movie about a pilot
Regarding Glory (1989): You said the guy who plays the cop in Stranger Things (David Harbour, born 1975) plays Gen. Strong in Glory. According to IMDB, Gen Strong was played by Jay O. Sanders (born 1953). They do look somewhat alike. Harbour would have been 14 at the time the film was released.
Thanks for the correction!
I don't know if you mentioned it, but have you seen "Gods and Generals"
Basically a story about Stonewall Jackson in the civil war.
You mentioned Shawshank Redemption - the bank manager near the end of the film (Jim Kisicki) was a parishioner at my church in Chesterland OH. Incredible voice
I'm suprised that you haven't seen Guns of Navarone or Where Eagles Dare both are classics that are on the list
If you can find and watch the BBC program Rebels and Redcoats: How Britain Lost America, do so. It's by Military Historian Richard Holmes. He said at the time he made it because he saw the film The Patriot on an aeroplane and was appalled about it's historical inaccuracy.
Driving from Chattanooga to Taccoa depending what route you take, it is the one of the most beautiful drives in Georgia you can take, just don’t take the easy way out and drive down to Atlanta and then back up. Trust me
Good to know! Thanks for the tip.
@@VloggingThroughHistory anytime, maybe I can join you in Andersonville. I’m only about an hour away from there. We are having a reenactment at Battle of Pickets Mill that Saturday. I don’t think you can make that one.
@@sethelrod9099 No I wish I could...I'll be doing cleanup at Curahee that day.
@@VloggingThroughHistory a good reason... I’ll allow it lol
“This is why they killed Stackhouse!” Behind Enemy Lines is S Tier
Paths of Glory is fantastic. Definitely Kubrick’s better war movie. Really captures the hopelessness of WWI. Wrote a paper in college about it
Not a classic definition of a war movie but "Das Leben Der Anderen" AKA The Lives of Others didn't get a mention
Last of the Mohicans, I would rate an S solely on the soundtrack alone lol
If anyone hasnt seen it alexander nevsky is a great movie about the teutonic order invading the principality of novgorod
Was hoping you had seen Waterloo glad you have, more people need to watch it
Always kills me to see Smalls from Sandlot in Blackhawk Down lol.
I just recently discovered your channel and didn't know you were a pastor.
I am also a pastor/history nerd from Ohio!
Did you get a chance to watch Mary queen of Scots? Did you like it?
Wanted to comment on the president tier list video. Would love an empire tier list!
British empire ssSSssSs+++++
Every other empire F.
Just watched Dunkirk again and my god is it good
Have you been to the D-Day Reenactment in Conneaut? I have been twice. Its a great experience.
No but I need to get up there for that.
@@VloggingThroughHistory yes you do especially since you are so close. I used to live in Cortland while going to YSU for MA in History.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Can I suggest a 1977 war film which was described by Orson Welles as the greatest anti-war film made. It's called "Cross of Iron" and stars James Coburn, James Mason, Maximilian Schell, and David Warner.
The problem i have with The Longest day, is that it completly ignors the Canadian contrabution to dday, the third largest national contingent and the only one to achive all it dday objectives and Canada is mentioned twice in passing.
Older Movies: PT 109, 30 Seconds over Tokyo, Guadalcanal/Thin Red Line, and MacArthur? Foreign: 1683 (Polish movie where Hussars save Vienna)?
Come and See is absolutely devastating
Should do greatest weapons throughout history as the next tier list.
he doesn't touch 'touchy' political topics in contemporary US. People have gone insane and he's adhering to the climate as an 'advertiser friendly' channel.
Wondering on ur thoughts on the show Knightfall
One of these movies that I watched recently was All Quiet on the Western Front (1930). It was quite dark and hard to watch as young teenage boys get sent to participate in WWI and shortly get killed one after the other.
I suggest you check out The Forgotten Battle. It is about the Battle of the Scheldt. They really paint a good picture of the island of Walcheren at the time, and the story of the Dutch youth fighting on the German side was harrowing, and sobering to watch. I watched it back to back with 1917, a film I thought was a bit underwhelming. Unrealistic transitions between scenes...especially at the burning city. All of the shooting started conveniently after the protagonist was dropped off by that army unit and he crossed the obstacle into the city. Cinematography was good though. Looked pretty.
Also, as a Dutchman, Admiral (Michiel de Ruyter) was a good watch.
I find it sad that all of the good movies aren't on here, Waterloo (1970), Gettysburg, Zulu or even Tora Tora Tora.
Tora Tora Tora was indeed in there.
@@VloggingThroughHistory You have to watch Zulu at least... When it comes to historical war movies, it's one of the best and pretty accurate too.
I think the term "war film" is sightly vague. Hence there are alot of movies that could have been included in that list. Am not sure why but I find that generally my favourite movies are war films. I adore so many of the films listed. I will throw in a unordinary recommendation which I understand might not be very suitable for international audience as it is a 5h Polish Epic but it is one of my favourite movies. "The Deluge" or "Potop" is a masterpiece. A shorter but similar movie which is a total delight to watch is "With fire and sword" by the same director. They are both based on Henryk Sienkiewicz Books set in 16/17th centuary, one covers Swedish invasion and the other Cossack uprising.
Thanks for the video.
yes come and see is absolutely one of the best war films ever hands down
Great stream! Glad Saving Private Ryan was an S-tier! :)
If it wasn’t, he would have a strongly worded letter in his email lol
@@crocadillius6418 Lol, Haha.
its very propagandist and wrong in detail.
In a world with not many big budget ww1 films war horse was good. Shows many aspects of the war on both sides
One of the best ww2 movies surprisingly for me is a Russian show. the dawns here are quiet 2015.
They also did a good show about Afganistan. Very interesting movies
“Wow” - Owen Wilson
12 years a slave is based on his memoir he wrote only a few years after his captivity, thus one of our more accurate depictions from the times.
I know this because I had to read the memoir in college. I still have it too.
I recommend Waterloo (1970)
You should consider watching Kokoda and danger close if you haven’t seen them; some of the best war movies Australia has produced
Waterloo (1970) is easily the most quotable war film
the german movie stalingrad 1993 is a S tier movie, shows great combat scenes and great story telling about german soldiers fighting stalingrad
Great tier list and I have a nice list of movies to watch now. I only disagree with The Patriot on entertainment value, I would put the film at A-B
Hacksaw Ridge was ok in my opinion. I like Andrew Garfield as an actor, and I liked his performance. But it was a little bit of a melodrama for my liking. It sort of undermines Dawson's pacifism when he's being defended by an injured soldier he's dragging shooting a machine gun rifle.
That was a directive choice due to the inclination towards the general public not believing the story if told more accurately
definitely agree with all quiet on the western front s tier
Haven't watched the whole thing yet, but just in case they're not mentioned - I recommend Midnight Clear (1992: Ethan Hawke, Gary Sinise etc) and To End All Wars (2001: Kiefer Sutherland, Robert Carlisle, Mark Strong etc).
Ah, this video was so expensive for me - lots of movies purchased on iTunes.
Would like to know how you felt about the movie “Memphis Belle”. I know not historically accurate but in many ways was like “fury”. But they both told a story on what they went through. Thank you, love what you do, please keep it up!
My favourites are Waterloo, Das Boot, Stalingrad (1993), Gettysburg, Lincoln, Tora Tora Tora, Letters from Iowa Jima.
'The Longest Day' all the way
My favorite depiction of George Custer is probably Richard Mulligan in Little Big Man. Accurate? Probably not but definitely memorable and one of my favorite movie villains.
They should have put kingdom of heaven on this list and schindlers list 100% above s tier for me
Dunkirk was excellent as was Downfall and the Cruel Sea .
of course my two favorite ones got ranked F lol. im more into character driven psychologically interesting movies, i dont care much about action.
Bridge on the river kwia was an S
Hard disagree on The Hurt Locker. It's drummed up to be a psychological thriller or whatever but I just found it to be a really good slow burner more than anything. The plot felt organic and following a bomb squad around countless life and death situations made it uniquely tense; especially in how high the stakes feel whilst defusing some of those IEDs. It also opened the writing and story up to that Catch-22 esque situation of countless missions with seemingly no end and the psychological toll that impinges on a squad. Loved the cinematography although it felt a bit artsy at times. But still texturally rich. Really enjoyed the cavalier acting from Jeremy Renner and even cameo performances like Guy Pearce. Also there's so much bad writing with war films and at least The Hurt Locker has something complex or not entirely centred around "the mission", yknow. It felt like a journey without a set destination, as opposed to absolute crap like 13 hours which is just Bay Hollywoodisms stretched over what actually felt like 13 hours, with the most one dimensional, trash writing and characterization you could ever imagine. There is no comparison
By the way does anyone know a good 30 year war movie or documentary?
Here in the UK watching The Great Escape is a national institution. Does contain the worst Australian accent ever re James Coborn.