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To those of you complaining about the recline being too loose, you can adjust the tension of the pivot/recline function. There is a hex adjustment underneath the seat centre rear of the main support. It's very stiff but does turn with a bit of force: adjusting this makes a huge difference. I'm not sure why this is not mentioned in the videos or in the manual?
Thanks fam. I would also like to mention that there's a lever on the underside of the seat towards the front that you hold to allow the seat to slide forward/backward. It is by default too far back
I’ve had this chair for two years now - got it as it became clear working from home was going to last for a while because of the pandemic, and it became quickly clear it was going to be a lot cheaper in the long run to pay for a good chair rather than struggle with cheap ones and the back problems I’d end up developing. We’ve had some Herman Miller chairs in the office, but I never really got to terms with them and spent a fair bit of time looking for alternatives when looking for something to get for home use. Most shops being closed because of lockdowns obviously meant I couldn’t actually go try any out in person either. This video along with a few others helped me make my mind and I got the Humanscale Freedom with headrest and fabric trim. It’s been hands down the most comfortable chair I have ever used, it fits my back and body form perfectly and the reclining function is so seamless and functional that I don’t even think about it when using it. Not having tons of adjustment levers to fiddle with was one of the attractions of the chair, and it has worked very well. I sit in it for quite long hours, and it has been far better for my back than the chairs we use in the office. The only thing I think could be better designed is the armrests. It looks aesthetically pleasing, but the mechanism is not as solid as the rest of the chair - it’s the one thing on it that feels a bit flimsy.
@@Omagarten Works great for me at my height so not sure how tall the person is they are referring to in the video but for it not to work they would have to be over 6'5 I think. As for the chair in general, I think it's great. The design is simple but effective. It's my first chair with a headrest and I have watched whole movies in it fully reclined and I think the support is really nice. You need to adjust it a bit when you get it but once you find the sweet spot for your back it feels like it hugs you and provides nice support for your back and neck.
This chair used to have a lifetime warranty before they cut it to 12 years sometime ago. It applies to both factory or man made defects. So everything are replaceable even worn out / torn leather or fabrics for that matter. The arms are the only real problem as the plastic base for the pad will crack/break if hard enough pressure is applied. The gel padding is slso thinner now. Overall its a top 5 office chair for me ✌
I've had this model for 10 years now. Ultra comfortable, ultra reliable. After 10 years the left arm support gave up / cracked but it's still fully working and functional.
That was my biggest issue - the armrests :( Such an odd flaw, once that gear goes out those arms are useless (and expensive to repair). Found a size C Aeron and absolutely love it as a replacement. I've also heard that Humanscale has 'cheaped out' on recent iterations of it as well which is sad.
John Zabroski Mostly just from acquaintances who have owned newer models and the older early models. Also, Reddit hah - take that as you will. Herman Miller is also ‘cheaping out’ a bit by starting to use more plastics in their updates Aeron chairs - so time will tell if that becomes an issue.
Have the Humanscale Freedom with the headrest an love it -and I'm not quite 2 meters tall. Reclining in it is a dream and I can sit in it cross-legged, as I often like to do. People mention the arm rests as being a weak spot - I was making the mistake of using the armrest to get up out of the chair and one of them broke. The amazing thing is Humanscale paid to have it replaced, even though I'd owned the chair for years. Gotta love a company like that. My only issue with it now is that it creaks and squeeks like crazy.
I managed to find one in leather and I love it. Do you have a video on things we can adjust on this as well as maintenance to minimise squeaking/rubbing?
Wait, so there's no way to disengage that pully system which cranks your head forward as you tilt back in the chair??? You can never recline without your chin being shoved into your chest? That's a pretty weird design decision.
This chair didn't work for me. I have a slimmer frame so the arms being farther apart and unable to adjust was an issue. The seat bottom was also a little too firm for my liking. But the big problem for me was the backrest. I don't do well with pronounced lumbar support and this chair felt like it was digging into my back, amplifying my back issues. I've been using the Haworth Zody which has allowed me to work virtually pain free. I returned my Freedom Headrest after trying it for a month, and Humanscale was actually very helpful and allowed me to return it for a full refund.
So how tall is your second tallest guy that had problems with the headrest? How tall would you say is the limit before one has a problem with the headrest?
My one issue with this chair is that I wish Humanscale would redo the arms so for more customization. IE Redesign them so users can raise them a few more inches and extend them a bit.
How tall is too tall to be comfortable with the head rest of this chair? Can you suggest a chair with similar characteristics as this one but for taller folks?
they do need to make a xl size. This chair can adjust but it isn't that much. This fits like a glove as you recline, unbelievable compared to Steelcase and Herman Miller. I would call Humanscale and pester them on a larger chair like how Aeron chair has 3 different sizes). You are missing out. I am not that tall, so it fits amazing. This is the best natural recliner, I just recline the back support is still there and the headrest moves closer not do nothing like other chairs. There is no locking mechanism, it just does it naturally. I adjust the height of the chair and the back support and that is it. Ok got the adjustable arms (upgrade package) if I want to move it out of the way. I got mine at the relax the back store. They don't carry HM or Steelcase, since they don't naturally adjusting with you adjusting all the time.
Haha. I'm using your channel to help me in my upcoming super nice office chair review but I had to comment after your intro. Yeah, I love office chairs. I wouldn't have any other chairs in the house other than a sofa, had i my druthers
For anyone who hasn’t used this, the best feature of this chair is that it reclines without the bottom seat changing angle. So many chairs recline the whole chair, which is just a bad experience. It feels so natural. The only downside of this chair is that it’s heavy AF. Also if you’re tall get the low back version
I spent the last 2 weeks researching online for a chair that supports taller sizes. Very few offer back pad height adjustment (like this, Uplift & Ergospine) but there's always some limitation. I'd like to hear of suggestions from your tall colleague.
@@dijasporaNYC my 6"3 brother likes the Steelcase Gesture with headrest. He's around 250lb so he's tough on chairs. The Nightingale CXO is also available in a tall size. Some of the Scandinavian brands such as RH cater for taller users as the average height is inches taller than the US. The average Danish man is around 5"11. An office chair manufacturer that didn't cater for 6"3 and 6"4 men would have a smaller market.
is it a very big difference with headrest on em because i bought one without headrest and was wondering if i could buy just the headrest from somewhere
It does seem like the headrest pushes your head too forward which in my opinion is a big problem. When i relax i dont want my head to be pushed forward, rather to relax backward!
I had this concern and went to a store to test it, this was a dealbreaker for me because I like to stretch my head backwards and thankfully I realized that you can lower the headrest when reclining and then you can relax your head backwards.
Had an older model Freedom w/ headrest - and loved it. It's a brilliant ergo chair through and through. That said, the armrests were the biggest failing point. The gear itself - while a great feature - is not easily repairable (or user-repairable). They grind down, and the arms become completely useless (and floppy to the lowest setting). I had to give mine up - and switched to an Aeron. Also, from what I am hearing my 10 y/o version is better than the latest variations in terms of quality build and materials?
Exact same thing happened to me with the arms and I just bought an Aeron too. It’s a pity about the arms since the freedom chair is amazingly comfortable for my back (I have chronic lower back pain)
I'm 5'8", 160 pounds and you're right about the standard arms being too wide for working with a keyboard and mouse. But that's a non-issue for me. I move the arms down and out of the way because I have a pair of Ergorest articulating arm rests attached to my desk. They're far superior to any chair arms. Since they articulate, they offer continuous back support as I shift back and forth between keyboard and mouse.
@@Moximaxius I ended up buying it, couldn't pass it up - if I don't like it I can easily sell it on for more than I paid. I think I agree with you that I really want it to lock into upright position more than anything, I'll have to look for the screw that tightens the recliner up. I'm saying all of this with about 20 minutes sitting time, next week will be the main test when I work.
I am torn between the freedom with headrest, and Leap V1 with headrest (company is giving me a choice). I am a bit heavier, around 240 pounds and I am 5’7. My lower back needs some support. What would you recommend? Leap V1 or Freedom without headrest? As of now I’m sitting in a chair from staples and my pelvis hurts from the non adjustable seat pan. Thank you!!
I received this chair yesterday and while I really like it, any time I recline, I get a REALLY loud popping noise both on the recline and when it comes up. My husband and I determined that the noise was coming from two screws on the bottom where the chair was popping down over the threads. Is this normal for these chairs or did I just get a bad chair?
no, mine is smooth, you just hear the gliding sound. I spent more money and got the metal upgrade (aluminum with graphite paint) the baseline is plastic (graphite color). With all the upgrades this chair could be $3,000.
Please help I've bought and returned like 8 chairs 😖😩 the biggest disappointments I've had is how solid the chair feels when you sit on the chair, does the seat base feel secure or slightly rickety? Also back support does it feel firm and strong enough to support your back? Or did it move really easily so it almost feels you have to hold yourself in place? Please help 🙏🏽
Yikes! That sounds super expensive for you. I would definitely try this product out in person before purchasing. Humanscale products are not returnable -GK
It seems to be a common issue. I found that torque paste is a good solution. I had some carbon gripper paste (for higher end road bikes which have carbon components that could react and bond with Aluminium or other metals) lying around and a tiny bit of that worked wonders for me, and as its designed not to cause chemical reactions I am fairly confident it won't cause any negative side effects. Not sure if I would risk anything more industrial like loctite though.
Did you manage to adjust the recline tension screw? That will make a huge difference to the enjoyment of this chair? Mine will hold me at whatever position I put it into without effort.
the best chair out there and I have tried Steelcase and Herman Miller. It is all just personal taste. This the best reclining office chair. No there is no real adjustment it just reclines and the headrest follows with it. No locking mechanism like other chairs has. Why when it is perfectly balanced. I can sit Indian style too. Great chair if you like to recline and have the cruiser sit and with back support. The few issues are prices, add the adjustable arm is like 200-300, then add aluminum is another 200 (otherwise it is mostly plastic) While the back and headrest adjust it is only a few inches. If you are tall I don't see how it will fit you like a glove compared to the average person height. I just got this chair after a year when I first randomly sat in it (I live in a big city so I can try the chair out, recommend people do that) of waiting and trying a lot of different chairs.
Make sure to get the seat depth in the correct position as well. This can definitely impact how the back feels. The Freedom has strong lower support, which might not be a good fit for your needs too -GK
As a user, I confirm that this is piece of junk for that money. On the third day of use, the plastic part of the backrest broke. The silicone on the armrests broke into pieces after a month. There is no locking option for the backrest so that it does not tilt back when you want to rest your entire weight on it. last time I bought a product from this company.
We have a ton of video tutorials on how to properly adjust the chairs we review and sell. I’d recommend looking for those how-to videos if you’d like better demonstration on how to use them correctly. Thanks for checking out our channel! -GK
@@btodtv Thank you for your prompt reply. I just found it a waste of my time. When it can be done all in one video. Many BTOD video's are done this way in this video as well. Stay safe, and have a great week. Thank you for your time.
@@btodtv Thanks, at 6' 3" I can see that the headrest would be in totally the wrong place for me. This helped me avoid a bad purchase decision. Many thanks.
@@AyoMrB With our reviews, we cover the things we like and don't like about the chair. Unfortunately, we don't go over all of the adjustments. Our in depth written review talks more about this feature and is linked above in the description. In that written review we have created some Gifs that show the height adjustment function. Around the 2:00 mark of this video I show myself reclining in this video and the headrest is at the tallest position. That might provide some additional context to how it will fit users my height and above. We also create adjustment videos for most of the chairs we review, here is a link to that video for the Freedom Chair: bit.ly/2MWKBSU. - GK
Make sure you stay away from this chair. It is the worst acquisition I've ever made so far. The lack of a locking system means that your back will never sit comfortable in a 90 degree position. You always have to force yourself to stay at a 90 degrees, otherwise the moment you relax the chair relax as well and you end up in a very uncomfortable angle. Who the hell does not put a locking mechanism in a $1500 chair? Seriously now? How my back is going to ever get proper support with all that recline going on? I'm struggling for 3 days to get used to it, but I just can't. I'm a programmer and I type a lot and this chair put me in a very uncomfortable position for typing the moment I relax. I wanted to invest my money into an ergonomic chair since I spend most of the time sitting at the desk. This was the worst decision I could have possible made. If you want a locking system on your chair, just stay away from this.
It's probably worth having an ergonomics consultation. The worst possible position for you to sit is at 90 degrees - all the weight from your upper body causes strain on your pelvic bone, and just like a hosepipe, any 90 degree kinks in the body cause restricted blood flow. Having a chair that encourages you to open up the body, whilst still providing lumbar support in the right place, will have immediate and long-term benefits. And having a backrest lock discourages movement - the single biggest problem when sitting for any length of time.
Chris Meecham my question to you is what happens to your neck in that position? Because the chair pulls you behind so your neck struggle to stay right and look forwards. When your back is pulled behind like that by the dynamic support, you need to have your monitors somewhere on your wall or ceiling in order to sit comfortable with the neck lol.
I think the lack locking mechanism will have mixed opinions. Like any chair in this price bracket, you should ideally try it before you buy it. If that isn't possible then buy it from somewhere with a good returns policy so you can get a refund if you can't get used to it. The chair is definitely comfortable if you get used to it and I'm not sure I'd ever want a chait that doesn't have this auto-adjusting headrest. I'm 6'5 and it fits me fine. I bought mine second hand and I've had it 10 years now so it's looking a bit tired but I'm considering buying another.
@@12345bookworm12345 I will reiterate my suggestion that you should consider an ergonomics consultation. Without being there to see exactly why the dynamic headrest isn't working for you, it's difficult for me to evaluate your concerns. If a consultation is not feasible, how about asking someone from the shop / dealership where you purchased the chair to give you a demo?
DO NOT BUY THIS CHAIR ANYMORE. It's lovely when it's new but mine is now approximately two years old and it's falling apart. The rubberised material on the armrests popped out of its retaining groove within a few months of having it. The gas spring/rotating bearing in the base now makes the creaky cracking noise that all crap office chairs make when they're broken. The headrest doesn't stay in place because of Humanscale's cheap, crap design. The armrests sag. The pull around handle on the back mysteriously snapped off one day. I think i've used it twice to pull the chair about on carpet. Maybe the quality was different years ago, but they're absolute rubbish now. My chinese "gaming chair" lasted longer.
This is the worst office chair I have ever be forced to sit on. When you pull it back, it wants to break your neck. It has some weird non-metric regulation (allen?) key instead of useful knob. I had to dismantle some of its mechanisms to make it acceptable, but then the bolster pops out. And there is no locking mechanism! For the amount of money, anything other is a way better choice.
The headrest is not for everyone. I like it closer to the 75% reclined position, since the headrest is in a more neutral position around that reclined position for my body. They did this purposely though, to properly position your eyes on your monitors when fully reclined. -GK
@@btodtv I would not say the headrest is not for everyone. The whole chair is not for everyone. I would not recommend it to anyone in fact. Orthopedists prescibe immediate chair change when people from the office complain to spine pain. And for the money and high chance it won't fit - there are less risky and cheaper choices.
Michał Czapski +1. I support everything you say. You put so much stress on your neck in this chair, since u sit in a very reclined position but you still have to look forwards. Terrible design, terrible ergonomics, too expensive for what you get. Just get a good office chair from IKEA with 150 pounds and you ll be 10x times happier than with this bs.
Are you looking for a headrest that lets you stare up at the ceiling when you recline? This is the only chair I've seen that actually supports your head in the right position when you're reclined so you can actually work and look at your screen.
@@IBCo. Suure, and you know better what is best for everyone. You have more knowledge than the orthopedists. And finally adding a switch that could allow disconnecy the neck breaking feature would harm the designers and their families and be against humanity. Right...
this is a bad chair. no locking mechanism means you need to constantly support the chair to be reclined. also when you recline the headrest goes forward and push you head to an awkward position like you can see in the video. also, the back support is very bad because the back support pivots by a few degrees. I don't understand why they sell it at such a high price.
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To those of you complaining about the recline being too loose, you can adjust the tension of the pivot/recline function. There is a hex adjustment underneath the seat centre rear of the main support. It's very stiff but does turn with a bit of force: adjusting this makes a huge difference. I'm not sure why this is not mentioned in the videos or in the manual?
do you know what size mm hex is required for this? literally trying with my toolbox and none of them fit in
@@lucidgazing2078 yep, same :/
@@bushido791 it's imperial, that's why :)
Thanks fam. I would also like to mention that there's a lever on the underside of the seat towards the front that you hold to allow the seat to slide forward/backward. It is by default too far back
@@lucidgazing2078 I have found a CR-VT30 star size fit the hex perfectly and managed to rotate it and the tension did get thighter.
I’ve had this chair for two years now - got it as it became clear working from home was going to last for a while because of the pandemic, and it became quickly clear it was going to be a lot cheaper in the long run to pay for a good chair rather than struggle with cheap ones and the back problems I’d end up developing. We’ve had some Herman Miller chairs in the office, but I never really got to terms with them and spent a fair bit of time looking for alternatives when looking for something to get for home use. Most shops being closed because of lockdowns obviously meant I couldn’t actually go try any out in person either.
This video along with a few others helped me make my mind and I got the Humanscale Freedom with headrest and fabric trim. It’s been hands down the most comfortable chair I have ever used, it fits my back and body form perfectly and the reclining function is so seamless and functional that I don’t even think about it when using it. Not having tons of adjustment levers to fiddle with was one of the attractions of the chair, and it has worked very well. I sit in it for quite long hours, and it has been far better for my back than the chairs we use in the office.
The only thing I think could be better designed is the armrests. It looks aesthetically pleasing, but the mechanism is not as solid as the rest of the chair - it’s the one thing on it that feels a bit flimsy.
Why wouldn't you tell us how tall that 2nd tallest user in the office is? 😩🤦
I am 6'3 and I just ordered one. Website says it fits up to 6'4 users. I will report back after I test it for a bit.
@@dorsmap so, how does it feel for you?
@@Omagarten Works great for me at my height so not sure how tall the person is they are referring to in the video but for it not to work they would have to be over 6'5 I think. As for the chair in general, I think it's great. The design is simple but effective. It's my first chair with a headrest and I have watched whole movies in it fully reclined and I think the support is really nice. You need to adjust it a bit when you get it but once you find the sweet spot for your back it feels like it hugs you and provides nice support for your back and neck.
This chair used to have a lifetime warranty before they cut it to 12 years sometime ago. It applies to both factory or man made defects.
So everything are replaceable even worn out / torn leather or fabrics for that matter.
The arms are the only real problem as the plastic base for the pad will crack/break if hard enough pressure is applied.
The gel padding is slso thinner now.
Overall its a top 5 office chair for me ✌
I've had this model for 10 years now. Ultra comfortable, ultra reliable. After 10 years the left arm support gave up / cracked but it's still fully working and functional.
That was my biggest issue - the armrests :( Such an odd flaw, once that gear goes out those arms are useless (and expensive to repair). Found a size C Aeron and absolutely love it as a replacement. I've also heard that Humanscale has 'cheaped out' on recent iterations of it as well which is sad.
@@chasenthehype What's your source for Humanscale cheaping out?
John Zabroski Mostly just from acquaintances who have owned newer models and the older early models. Also, Reddit hah - take that as you will. Herman Miller is also ‘cheaping out’ a bit by starting to use more plastics in their updates Aeron chairs - so time will tell if that becomes an issue.
My arm rest did the same. I binned it, and got a cheap replacement.
I didn’t realise how incredible that chair was, and just ordered freedom again
Have the Humanscale Freedom with the headrest an love it -and I'm not quite 2 meters tall. Reclining in it is a dream and I can sit in it cross-legged, as I often like to do. People mention the arm rests as being a weak spot - I was making the mistake of using the armrest to get up out of the chair and one of them broke. The amazing thing is Humanscale paid to have it replaced, even though I'd owned the chair for years. Gotta love a company like that.
My only issue with it now is that it creaks and squeeks like crazy.
I managed to find one in leather and I love it. Do you have a video on things we can adjust on this as well as maintenance to minimise squeaking/rubbing?
Wait, so there's no way to disengage that pully system which cranks your head forward as you tilt back in the chair???
You can never recline without your chin being shoved into your chest?
That's a pretty weird design decision.
This chair didn't work for me. I have a slimmer frame so the arms being farther apart and unable to adjust was an issue. The seat bottom was also a little too firm for my liking. But the big problem for me was the backrest. I don't do well with pronounced lumbar support and this chair felt like it was digging into my back, amplifying my back issues. I've been using the Haworth Zody which has allowed me to work virtually pain free. I returned my Freedom Headrest after trying it for a month, and Humanscale was actually very helpful and allowed me to return it for a full refund.
Which seat bottom option did you have? I think you can request a special gel one?
So how tall is your second tallest guy that had problems with the headrest? How tall would you say is the limit before one has a problem with the headrest?
How tall is second tallest guy in your office? I am 6 feets tall will the headset be a problem to my height?
He is about 6’2” or 6’3” on a good day. I am 6 ft tall and the headrest fit me well. - GK
What’s your favorite reclining office chair with headrest?
I have decided that the “ humanscale freedom chair” and I deserve to be together! Lol 🥳
Haha. Love this! -GK
what is the tall length starts would facing head and neck problem?
Yeah okay but HOW tall is he? 6'6? 6'10?
My one issue with this chair is that I wish Humanscale would redo the arms so for more customization. IE Redesign them so users can raise them a few more inches and extend them a bit.
How tall is too tall to be comfortable with the head rest of this chair?
Can you suggest a chair with similar characteristics as this one but for taller folks?
I am 6,3" and it seems fine to me.
they do need to make a xl size. This chair can adjust but it isn't that much. This fits like a glove as you recline, unbelievable compared to Steelcase and Herman Miller. I would call Humanscale and pester them on a larger chair like how Aeron chair has 3 different sizes). You are missing out. I am not that tall, so it fits amazing. This is the best natural recliner, I just recline the back support is still there and the headrest moves closer not do nothing like other chairs. There is no locking mechanism, it just does it naturally. I adjust the height of the chair and the back support and that is it. Ok got the adjustable arms (upgrade package) if I want to move it out of the way. I got mine at the relax the back store. They don't carry HM or Steelcase, since they don't naturally adjusting with you adjusting all the time.
Haha. I'm using your channel to help me in my upcoming super nice office chair review but I had to comment after your intro. Yeah, I love office chairs. I wouldn't have any other chairs in the house other than a sofa, had i my druthers
For anyone who hasn’t used this, the best feature of this chair is that it reclines without the bottom seat changing angle. So many chairs recline the whole chair, which is just a bad experience. It feels so natural.
The only downside of this chair is that it’s heavy AF.
Also if you’re tall get the low back version
the ability to put the arms almost completely away is just fantastic
I am 6'4. Will headrest fully extended be a problem? I love the review and the chair! Thanks
Thank you! I would be concerned about a proper fit at your height -GK
@@btodtv damn. its off the list then! Any recommendation for 6'4 tall guy? With a headrest!
I spent the last 2 weeks researching online for a chair that supports taller sizes. Very few offer back pad height adjustment (like this, Uplift & Ergospine) but there's always some limitation. I'd like to hear of suggestions from your tall colleague.
@@dijasporaNYC my 6"3 brother likes the Steelcase Gesture with headrest. He's around 250lb so he's tough on chairs. The Nightingale CXO is also available in a tall size. Some of the Scandinavian brands such as RH cater for taller users as the average height is inches taller than the US. The average Danish man is around 5"11. An office chair manufacturer that didn't cater for 6"3 and 6"4 men would have a smaller market.
@@dijasporaNYC you can probably get aeron size C and a third party head rest add on option.
is it a very big difference with headrest on em because i bought one without headrest and was wondering if i could buy just the headrest from somewhere
It does seem like the headrest pushes your head too forward which in my opinion is a big problem.
When i relax i dont want my head to be pushed forward, rather to relax backward!
I had this concern and went to a store to test it, this was a dealbreaker for me because I like to stretch my head backwards and thankfully I realized that you can lower the headrest when reclining and then you can relax your head backwards.
Those armrests make it perfect for guitarists
Have this chair it’s great but why can’t you lock the back also
Had an older model Freedom w/ headrest - and loved it. It's a brilliant ergo chair through and through. That said, the armrests were the biggest failing point. The gear itself - while a great feature - is not easily repairable (or user-repairable). They grind down, and the arms become completely useless (and floppy to the lowest setting). I had to give mine up - and switched to an Aeron.
Also, from what I am hearing my 10 y/o version is better than the latest variations in terms of quality build and materials?
Exact same thing happened to me with the arms and I just bought an Aeron too. It’s a pity about the arms since the freedom chair is amazingly comfortable for my back (I have chronic lower back pain)
the metal is an upgrade option, otherwise, you got more plastics. I got mine on 11-12-20. Aeron chair feels like a rock to me compared to this.
I'm 5'8", 160 pounds and you're right about the standard arms being too wide for working with a keyboard and mouse. But that's a non-issue for me. I move the arms down and out of the way because I have a pair of Ergorest articulating arm rests attached to my desk. They're far superior to any chair arms. Since they articulate, they offer continuous back support as I shift back and forth between keyboard and mouse.
Just picked up two of these for £170 each! 2nd hand but still an amazing chair!
I've just seen one on marketplace for £150 - are they worth getting?
@@pspr33 I like it, only feature I wish it had would be to lock the reclining position as I watch a lot of films at my pc.
@@Moximaxius I ended up buying it, couldn't pass it up - if I don't like it I can easily sell it on for more than I paid.
I think I agree with you that I really want it to lock into upright position more than anything, I'll have to look for the screw that tightens the recliner up. I'm saying all of this with about 20 minutes sitting time, next week will be the main test when I work.
What is the difference between ticino bizon cervo corvara? Is Ticino the same as Bizon and Cervo the same as Corvara? (The later being higher grades)
I am torn between the freedom with headrest, and Leap V1 with headrest (company is giving me a choice). I am a bit heavier, around 240 pounds and I am 5’7. My lower back needs some support. What would you recommend? Leap V1 or Freedom without headrest? As of now I’m sitting in a chair from staples and my pelvis hurts from the non adjustable seat pan. Thank you!!
I’d probably go with the Leap v1 -GK
@@btodtv okay thanks. Is there a reason?
Leapv1... It's more comfortable. More adjustable.
I received this chair yesterday and while I really like it, any time I recline, I get a REALLY loud popping noise both on the recline and when it comes up. My husband and I determined that the noise was coming from two screws on the bottom where the chair was popping down over the threads. Is this normal for these chairs or did I just get a bad chair?
That sound is not normal - you should ask someone at the place you bought it from to take a look at it. It's still under warranty, right?
no, mine is smooth, you just hear the gliding sound. I spent more money and got the metal upgrade (aluminum with graphite paint) the baseline is plastic (graphite color). With all the upgrades this chair could be $3,000.
My Freedom chair squeaks/creaks loads when I recline. Is there a fix?
What were the comments from the people that didn't like the Gel seat?
Please help I've bought and returned like 8 chairs 😖😩 the biggest disappointments I've had is how solid the chair feels when you sit on the chair, does the seat base feel secure or slightly rickety? Also back support does it feel firm and strong enough to support your back? Or did it move really easily so it almost feels you have to hold yourself in place? Please help 🙏🏽
Yikes! That sounds super expensive for you. I would definitely try this product out in person before purchasing. Humanscale products are not returnable -GK
Is the space in the back Down where you sit annoying?
How tall is too tall? I'm 6’2.
my office provide us this chair, pretty good except the headrest keep sliding down when you're not using .
When you put pressure on it or just when it sits untouched? -Gk
You can lock the headrest with tools.
It seems to be a common issue. I found that torque paste is a good solution. I had some carbon gripper paste (for higher end road bikes which have carbon components that could react and bond with Aluminium or other metals) lying around and a tiny bit of that worked wonders for me, and as its designed not to cause chemical reactions I am fairly confident it won't cause any negative side effects. Not sure if I would risk anything more industrial like loctite though.
Had the fabric version and was sliding off of it when wearing dress pants or smoother fabric. Better to go for the leather.
Might have been the type of fabric you went with? -GK
I found a refurbished version that's had the upholstery replaced - anyone know if that's something to avoid?
Does this chair have a locking switch in case you don't want it to move?
No i'm sorry it doesn't have a lock function. Of the weight activated mechanisms, it is the best available. - GK
@@btodtv Thanks for reply.
Think I will look for a RH logic 400 series.
How tall was your tallest co-worker?
Answer please
He is 6'2". -TK
Hi, how tall was the second tallest team member.
Is it suitable for tall people ?
Not really
How tall?
Where can I find the foot rest and adjustable keyboard thing???
search for "keyboard tray" and "foot rocker for desk"
Thank you for an amazing review!
Thanks for watching! -TK
I despise this chair. It does not "respond with proper recline depth". It just goes all the way back the moment you relax
thanks for the tip
Did you manage to adjust the recline tension screw? That will make a huge difference to the enjoyment of this chair? Mine will hold me at whatever position I put it into without effort.
the best chair out there and I have tried Steelcase and Herman Miller. It is all just personal taste. This the best reclining office chair. No there is no real adjustment it just reclines and the headrest follows with it. No locking mechanism like other chairs has. Why when it is perfectly balanced. I can sit Indian style too. Great chair if you like to recline and have the cruiser sit and with back support. The few issues are prices, add the adjustable arm is like 200-300, then add aluminum is another 200 (otherwise it is mostly plastic) While the back and headrest adjust it is only a few inches. If you are tall I don't see how it will fit you like a glove compared to the average person height. I just got this chair after a year when I first randomly sat in it (I live in a big city so I can try the chair out, recommend people do that) of waiting and trying a lot of different chairs.
My only complaint is the fabric is too slippery!
I'm having trouble figuring out where the backrest is supposed to go on this thing...foesnt feel right in any place
Make sure to get the seat depth in the correct position as well. This can definitely impact how the back feels. The Freedom has strong lower support, which might not be a good fit for your needs too -GK
As a user, I confirm that this is piece of junk for that money. On the third day of use, the plastic part of the backrest broke. The silicone on the armrests broke into pieces after a month. There is no locking option for the backrest so that it does not tilt back when you want to rest your entire weight on it. last time I bought a product from this company.
5:33 how tall is this person? Really need this information please, rather than just saying if you're *this* tall, it won't work.
6'2. NL
Why do BTOD people TRYING to sell a chair, not sit in them and demonstrate them properly?
We have a ton of video tutorials on how to properly adjust the chairs we review and sell. I’d recommend looking for those how-to videos if you’d like better demonstration on how to use them correctly. Thanks for checking out our channel! -GK
@@btodtv Thank you for your prompt reply. I just found it a waste of my time. When it can be done all in one video. Many BTOD video's are done this way in this video as well. Stay safe, and have a great week. Thank you for your time.
You’re welcome. That would be quite a long video :) GK
Not really. It will only take the time that you explained it, only sitting down and showing it. The same amount of time practically.
A review for tall people maybe?🙂
This vs leap v2 ?
v2 for most people! -GK
How tall are you (the presenter)?
I am 6’ tall. - GK
@@btodtv Thanks, at 6' 3" I can see that the headrest would be in totally the wrong place for me. This helped me avoid a bad purchase decision. Many thanks.
You're welcome! Glad we could help. - GK
The headrest is adjustable. Surprised they didn't show it in the video.
@@AyoMrB With our reviews, we cover the things we like and don't like about the chair. Unfortunately, we don't go over all of the adjustments. Our in depth written review talks more about this feature and is linked above in the description. In that written review we have created some Gifs that show the height adjustment function. Around the 2:00 mark of this video I show myself reclining in this video and the headrest is at the tallest position. That might provide some additional context to how it will fit users my height and above.
We also create adjustment videos for most of the chairs we review, here is a link to that video for the Freedom Chair: bit.ly/2MWKBSU. - GK
That recline looks very uncomfortable
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Make sure you stay away from this chair. It is the worst acquisition I've ever made so far. The lack of a locking system means that your back will never sit comfortable in a 90 degree position. You always have to force yourself to stay at a 90 degrees, otherwise the moment you relax the chair relax as well and you end up in a very uncomfortable angle. Who the hell does not put a locking mechanism in a $1500 chair? Seriously now? How my back is going to ever get proper support with all that recline going on? I'm struggling for 3 days to get used to it, but I just can't. I'm a programmer and I type a lot and this chair put me in a very uncomfortable position for typing the moment I relax. I wanted to invest my money into an ergonomic chair since I spend most of the time sitting at the desk. This was the worst decision I could have possible made.
If you want a locking system on your chair, just stay away from this.
It's probably worth having an ergonomics consultation. The worst possible position for you to sit is at 90 degrees - all the weight from your upper body causes strain on your pelvic bone, and just like a hosepipe, any 90 degree kinks in the body cause restricted blood flow. Having a chair that encourages you to open up the body, whilst still providing lumbar support in the right place, will have immediate and long-term benefits. And having a backrest lock discourages movement - the single biggest problem when sitting for any length of time.
Chris Meecham my question to you is what happens to your neck in that position? Because the chair pulls you behind so your neck struggle to stay right and look forwards.
When your back is pulled behind like that by the dynamic support, you need to have your monitors somewhere on your wall or ceiling in order to sit comfortable with the neck lol.
And that is more of a problem to models such as the Liberty one which hurts your neck so badly.
I think the lack locking mechanism will have mixed opinions. Like any chair in this price bracket, you should ideally try it before you buy it. If that isn't possible then buy it from somewhere with a good returns policy so you can get a refund if you can't get used to it.
The chair is definitely comfortable if you get used to it and I'm not sure I'd ever want a chait that doesn't have this auto-adjusting headrest. I'm 6'5 and it fits me fine. I bought mine second hand and I've had it 10 years now so it's looking a bit tired but I'm considering buying another.
@@12345bookworm12345 I will reiterate my suggestion that you should consider an ergonomics consultation. Without being there to see exactly why the dynamic headrest isn't working for you, it's difficult for me to evaluate your concerns. If a consultation is not feasible, how about asking someone from the shop / dealership where you purchased the chair to give you a demo?
DO NOT BUY THIS CHAIR ANYMORE. It's lovely when it's new but mine is now approximately two years old and it's falling apart. The rubberised material on the armrests popped out of its retaining groove within a few months of having it. The gas spring/rotating bearing in the base now makes the creaky cracking noise that all crap office chairs make when they're broken. The headrest doesn't stay in place because of Humanscale's cheap, crap design. The armrests sag. The pull around handle on the back mysteriously snapped off one day. I think i've used it twice to pull the chair about on carpet. Maybe the quality was different years ago, but they're absolute rubbish now. My chinese "gaming chair" lasted longer.
It appears you got a lemon. I've had mine for over 10 years (leather + gel seat) and haven't experienced any issues with it.
This is the worst office chair I have ever be forced to sit on. When you pull it back, it wants to break your neck. It has some weird non-metric regulation (allen?) key instead of useful knob. I had to dismantle some of its mechanisms to make it acceptable, but then the bolster pops out. And there is no locking mechanism!
For the amount of money, anything other is a way better choice.
The headrest is not for everyone. I like it closer to the 75% reclined position, since the headrest is in a more neutral position around that reclined position for my body. They did this purposely though, to properly position your eyes on your monitors when fully reclined. -GK
@@btodtv I would not say the headrest is not for everyone. The whole chair is not for everyone. I would not recommend it to anyone in fact. Orthopedists prescibe immediate chair change when people from the office complain to spine pain. And for the money and high chance it won't fit - there are less risky and cheaper choices.
Michał Czapski +1. I support everything you say. You put so much stress on your neck in this chair, since u sit in a very reclined position but you still have to look forwards.
Terrible design, terrible ergonomics, too expensive for what you get.
Just get a good office chair from IKEA with 150 pounds and you ll be 10x times happier than with this bs.
Are you looking for a headrest that lets you stare up at the ceiling when you recline? This is the only chair I've seen that actually supports your head in the right position when you're reclined so you can actually work and look at your screen.
@@IBCo. Suure, and you know better what is best for everyone. You have more knowledge than the orthopedists. And finally adding a switch that could allow disconnecy the neck breaking feature would harm the designers and their families and be against humanity. Right...
this is a bad chair. no locking mechanism means you need to constantly support the chair to be reclined. also when you recline the headrest goes forward and push you head to an awkward position like you can see in the video. also, the back support is very bad because the back support pivots by a few degrees.
I don't understand why they sell it at such a high price.
THOSE BEADY EYES
didn't even include the height of your coworkers............. how much thought went into making this?
Zero. I can't believe you watched it! LOL -Greg