Best Mini Guitar Amps For Under £300! - The Ultimate Lunchbox Amp Shootout!
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In today's video The Captain & Chappers are looking at mini guitar amps. Lunchbox amps offer a great alternative to gigging musicians as many of them are compact and portable, but don't lose any of the volume or gain you love.
We picked out 4 incredible mini amps, all under £300. But which one is the King? Is it the Friedman BE-MINI, the Orange Micro Dark Terror, the Diezel VH Micro, or the Hughes & Kettner "Spirit of Rock"?
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» 0:00 Intro Jam
» 1:04 What Amps Are We Looking At?
» 4:01 What Gear Are We Using?
» 4:31 Let's Start With the Friedman BE-MINI
» 11:00 Maximum Gain on The Friedman!
» 12:09 How Loud Does it Go?
» 14:25 Moving On to the Diezel VH Micro
» 18:44 Let's Try the Diezel with a 7 String!
» 22:44 Let's Try the Orange Dark Terror
» 27:15 Maximum Gain on the Dark Terror!
» 31:10 Lastly, the Hughes & Kettner "Spirit of Rock"
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I had the BE-MINI for a week, but it just wasn't loud enough for rehearsing. Now I have a MICRO DARK and it definitely gets the job done!
I currently have a orange,but thinking off buying another… but it’s not worth it?
I love to hear that brotha, just bought one 2 days ago. Used at a great price. Never played one but EXTREMELY SATISFIED with the pure raw power the little F er puts out .. 👍 never played a orange ever . I love it. It is loud as S through a 1x 12 celestion home made cab.
I play my micro dark through a 2x12 and it gets loud enough you would think it could peel paint off the walls
The Orange is only 20w as well, so very impressive. It would certainly be my choice out of those 4.
Terror Stamp my friend!
Hughes & Kettner make insanely great stuff. Their Tubemeister and Grandmeister heads are some of the best value tube amps out there with crap tons of features. So it’s no surprise even their tiny home practice amps kick ass too.
The new Friedman mini came out and I was thinking: “man, should I get rid of my micro dark for one of those?” Now that concern is gone, the micro dark sounded leagues better!
It’s pretty much as simple as Class AB vs Class D
Yeah i don't know what it is , but orange has it's own tone and it's just simple no frills kick ass! I have an orange crush rt 35 that i run my pedals through and it just sounds killer...
Great video, entertaining as always. Would have liked to hear the amps with humbuckers too though.
Loved the jam brilliant good to see you both together
I bought a micro dark over a micro terror because the cleans were more interesting to me from the demos.. not quite F type cleans but with the eq section set around 2 pm, the slightly scooped mids through an open 2x10 really impressed me. The gain structure is aggressive but I tune down and like to get droney/doomy sometimes.. I have a TS type pedal for lower gain tones.
I've just pulled my micro dark down from sale thanks to this. Part of me knew it was the wrong decision anyway. Nice one Andertons!
Sold mine for nothing once to guitar center. I have regret it sounded good.
I own an Orange Micro Dark and for rehearsal it definately is loud enough to keep up with a drummer, bass player and a singer on a PA.
I had it on about 2-3 and was plenty loud enough (I was running into a Laney 2x12 with Celestion 30th anniversary speakers @8ohms)
It sounded alright! By that I ment I had an EHX soul food (volume and gain at 12 o'clock and the treble up full) to brighten it up and not loose too much bottom end. With out it, the sound was quite dark which I also found when I was running it through a 1x12 at home (Celestion V Type speaker). It sounded dark and kind of muddy with a loose low end.... but there wasnt that much low end (if that makes sence)
Running the front end of the Micro Dark into the power section of my Marshall DSL40CR made it sound a shed load better for sure.....
I still think it's great for the money and it's much easier taking it to practice than lugging around my Marshall combo but bare in mind it needs an overdrive or an EQ to brighten it up.... also there isn't as much gain as you think there is which is a good thing even for metal because it does have really good versatility from that perspective.
So yeah, solid 7/10 from me.
As for the others, I couldn't say.... but..... I have noticed that the price of the bigger Orange "Dark Terror" has come down in price to about £380 brand new from some shops... so while £250 is still cheaper than £380, I think I'd at least check out the Dark Terror as well as the Friedman Mini and the Deizel Mini because the little bit extra spend might be worth it....
(Not that the Friedman or the Deizel sounded bad.... not at all.. they sounded awesome! And you still couldn't go wrong buying either IMO)
Gotta love that the guys clearly read the comments and take note changing it up for more affordable guitars and amps was a good call
Always worth remembering that this is created by a retailer. They make great vids so that you will learn about the product, but also likely want to buy the product. In addition to that, showing products that are affordable is a better move. Selling 2 amp heads at $2000 or, selling 20 at the $500-1000 dollar mark? Math speaks for itself.
@@jameshall2219 this is why we can’t have nice things James
@@jameshall2219 I think the channel comes across even more favorably when you remember that sales is their goal. Because let's face it they're not very salesy. They're presenting the gear but they're pretty honest about it. Much, much moreso than any of the paid "influencers" doing gear demos on TH-cam. Even Lee is not afraid to share a lukewarm or negative opinion about something.
Wow I wasn't expecting the Orange to be that amazing! It's basically killing the BE and the Diezel.
Because it has a tube preamp and solid power amp …the Friedman and Diezal are totally solid state
@@harshtruth9148 They're only running the plate voltage at about 20v. It's only used to filter and smooth the distortion not as an actual part of the circuit.
@@scottdunn2178 👍🏼
@@scottdunn2178 it plays like a tube amp and sounds like a tube amp, who gives a f*** what exactly the tube does. Whatever they did, they did it bloody well.
@@adrianguggisberg3656 okay but why do you care it has a tube in it then?
The Orange in the cleanest and has a really nice gritty gain. Would be great for blues rock. The Diezel has the best metal sound.
I have it and you just have to be extra careful with the gain because it starts to compress the signal hard. The cleans are fantastic though and on the edge of breakup with some pedals is where it shines IMO.
Very entertaining, made me smile.
I have to say though, Orange still has something special even against more modern designs.
Agree , there's a unique sound with Orange amps. They are simple with no frills but sound raw , i have an RT35 that i run my pedals through and it sounds amazing....
Think it might be the tube, the Diezel and BE are solid state. So the micro dark still has the analogue tube warmth to it.
Fantastic demo. You two do it best.
Personally, I LOVE the Micro Dark. I highly recommend it.
Sophie Lloyd
That would be a powerful look for Chappers to take on!
I have the Orange and I was fully prepared for it to pale in comparison to all the other ones. I cannot believe it stood up.
Great demo! Always a good laugh to be had. One thing to offer: so many amp demos are primarily focused on the bridge pickup. I do understand that current musical trends are geared towards gigantic, high-gain bridge pickup sounds, and I totally get that. But old war horses like me need to hear what an amp can do when put through its paces using neck, middle, and bridge positions at the very least. If it can’t cover those bases, then you end up with another one trick pony to add to the pile. Ironically, the man who produced the greatest bridge pickup tone of all time, Edward Van Halen, eventually went on to build guitars and amps that sound incredible regardless of the pickup choice or the amount of gain. For me, that opens the door to a wide range of colors to choose from. In future demos, please give us the whole picture. You both certainly have the chops and a great ear for tone. With the addition of displaying a greater variety of tones, your gear demos will reign supreme. Thanks for hearing me out!
Aren't the diezel and the Friedman just their drive pedals connected to a class d power section? I had heard that somewhere.
Yes unfortunately. My Vox pedals valvernergy sound even better!
Well, the price reflects that.
@@stanislavmigra this is absolutely true
Great video. Question: What watch was Lee rockin?
An Ltd into an orange amp most be a serious throwback for Rob Chapman. Always a big fan of Rob and Lee doing demos together
I have a Orange micro terror ,it's a fantastic pedal platform. I would like the microdark aswell. Headphone socket is invaluable
Is it good? headphone jack? Some say it's not good? And is the Micro Dark also good for recording?
it's all about the tightness of the browneye. clearly.
I swear, telecasters and Orange amps are a match made in heaven. 👌
That Tele is a real show stealer! Started out with wishing you guys default this demo on a high output humbucker like the what 7 had, but the Tele delivered. Its not the hero we asked for, but the one we need.
I've had the orange micro dark for a few years now and have gigged it several times. Killer amp for what it is. I bring it to every show just in case
what cab do you use with it?
Orange closed back 2x12, marshall 1960 A 4x12 or a marshall 1x12. It sounds good through my Magnatone Super 15 1x12 cab also
@@alexwoolridge94aw It pushes your 4x12 with no problem? It doesn't sound hollow?
@@mikeg.9238 it pushes my 4x12 with zero issues and has always sounded great.
@@alexwoolridge94aw Excellent , someone is selling one on craigs list in my area in "like new" condition for $115 , i think i'm going to pull the trigger on it then...
Great playing from both of you today, wonderful demos as always.
Bought an orange micro dark after seeing Laura cox demo,whch led me to your page.Bought my second amp peavey 6505mh after seeing you both demo it,years back.Content for now!
Damn that Orange Micro Dark sounded nice over my tv speakers
What about those Joyo BantAmps ? Are they any good ?
Wow the Intro endet 'nam still shakkn withe beat. Lol. Nice one. Thank you meine Herren. Glückwünsche und alles gute weiterhin.
I have two of the Orange amps (one Terror Stamp and one Micro Dark) in a teenie tiny stereo rig with 2 Orange PPC108s. They're awesome AND you can change the valve to get slightly different tones. such amazing value and plenty loud enough for this little box room that I play in.
Hi I need help Do you have to have a aby switch to switch the micro dark and terror stamp, also do you connect both amps with 2 speaker cables to speakers, how do you bridge or stereo them together?
@@redstrat5976 It depends what else you have in your signal chain. In my current setup I'm not using an ABY. Instead I have a stereo Delay pedal and Stereo Reverb pedal in the FX Loop. Basically I have the Terror Stamp set up as my main amp with the guitar plugged into that. Then the FX Loop Send goes to my Stereo Delay Pedal. That converts the sound to Stereo, two outputs from that into my Stereo Reverb. Then one of the outputs from the Reverb goes to the FX Return of the Terror Stamp and the other goes to the FX return of the Micro Dark.
Basically all the Micro Dark is being used for in my rig is a power amp to drive the 2nd Cab.
Yes, two speaker cables are used. One from the Terror Stamp to the 1st cab and another from the Micro Dark to the 2nd Cab.
HOWEVER, my reason for doing this is that I have a Kraken V4 pre-amp connected to my Terror Stamp in the 4 Cable method and I haven't quite got around to setting up the other way with the ABY. You see, the other way it can be set up is with the Guitar signal split by an ABY and then run into the Guitar-In of each amp. Then the FX Send of Amp 1 goes to the Stereo R input of the Delay and the FX Send of Amp 2 goes to the Stereo L input of the delay....same for the FX returns. Then you can blend 2 different amp sounds but running different Shape and Gain settings on the 2 amps.
I have a cheapy cheap ABY which I haven't got connected at the moment, but it's only one or two connections away from adding that amp blending to my rig. Just haven't got around to it yet.
IF you don't have stereo FX pedals, I'm not sure the best method unless you already have loads of FX pedals on hand and are happy running 2 reverbs and 2 delays (one per amp).
Good Luck
Is the headphone jack good in micro dark? Some say it's not good? And is the Micro Dark also good for recording?
@@MegaAndyGG it's ok. with enough eq you could make it work. It's probably better to just run the efx send into your recording rig and use ir's and cab sims from there.
Cheers!
Bought the Squier Tele from Andertons a few weeks ago and it’s great. Sanded the neck to satin and added custom shop pickups, but now think I prefer it to my Fender Strat and Gibson LP…
Stop it
I've just bought a Micro Dark after seeing this vid. I immediately changed the valve to a GE 5751 and the difference is astonishing, it was great fun before but now? My word! Its fair to say that the new valve is one of immense quality, probably one of the very best available...and its worth as much as the amp! I had planned to do the change before I ordered the amplifier, and I'm delighted. ( I actually got something right at last!)
Useful tip. I tried a variety of 12ax7s and settled on a JJ which I normally think sound sterile. Perhaps I change valve variety
Great... now I have to try this tube. Thanks a lot for posting this comment.
These all sound great with a gain tone dialed in, but there's no clean tone at a gigging volume with any of those. I think the best setup for that would be the BE and the Diezel in stereo with a 3rd clean amp in the center
I've got a 2X12 celestion equiped cab, currently with an Orange crush 20, do I move onto a Micro/Mini amp (£250-£300) , or the Marshall DSL 20H I've been looking at for £350?
I'm a home gamer, but I only have 1 neighbor, & he has a PRS & a VOX, so I dont need giging volume, but I don't need to worry about noise either.
Get the Marshall
I have that Marshall, I just wish the neighbours would love it as much as I do, instant gritty gain, it's powerful for 20W.
The DLS20H is a great amp, hugely versatile. Against a micro amp even though they're great, it feels and sounds like the real deal.
That's cool Rob. My wife uses an Orange Crush to run her keyboard through. They are great for that.
I’ve got the next stage up from the micro terror and got the Dark Terror, amazing little amp paired with an Orange 2x12 cab. Tbh too loud for my bedroom that it’s set up in.
How is the micro terror , i was thinking about getting that with a 2x12? Not for playing out , just for home use with headphones...
I'm looking for a small amp right now. I think for me possibly the dark terror is winning out mainly for the very responsive clean channel and effect loop
Whats the best ever smaller lighter powerful useful combo amp for small gigs? Boss katana mk2? Some vox? With more inbuilt basic effects 🤔 Cheers from Chile 🇨🇱
Watching Lee's guitar playing improve year over year has been pretty inspiring to watch. Makes me want to want to pick up my guitar and get better.
oh my god if i read one more of these comments im gonna off myself
@@RumpelStiltskindarkone uhhhh. Ok?
DO IT,, i have a physical issue that prevents me from spending the hrs needed..
With just starting to watch the video I'd think that the orange og one would still win or would be the one I'd get without hearing them all and it's not a matter of tubes or solid state because I like both.
Which mini amp for EVh Vai, and Nuno ?
Friedman, or Bognor?
Are the pickups Monty DP51?
I own the dark mini I've been blessed rock on
Lee you are a lucky man to have the talent available that you have to showcase your stock
These really are some feature packed little amps!
Wow that jam at the beginning was some of my favorite playing I’ve heard from Chappers
Ok. I’m a brand new player and know nothing about amps. Can these be used without a cabinet? If so do they sound ok? I’m not trying to gig just play in the bedroom.
For me, and my intended use, the choice would be between the Friedman and the H&K. Diezel felt a bit to much shredder amp, even if it wasn't best sounding, I thought. Orange, well I never really liked them, party due to the looks and some quality issues I have heard about, but here they sounded ok and most bang for the buck.
What quality issues have you heard?
For all around best sound I have to say the Hughes & Kettner was the top dog. The Friedman did have a better gain sound but not at performance level volumes. I think that if you wanted a little amp that could be universally applicable as a practice, session, and small venue unit the H&K spirit of rock had the best potential. It also seemed to have the most amount of headroom without losing its character.
By the way using a thinline single coil tele for those styles of music is not commonplace by any means, but IMO, sounded amazing! Kudos! Glad to see Rob back in the Anderton's studio and hope to see more Chappers & the Captain videos.
I have the orange. I have used it at punk gigs. But i had two amps running at the same time: usually a 5150 on one cab and then the orange micro in another cab. The orange micro dark in my opinion is not loud enough to gig on its own if the amp is not mic'd. Hope this helps for anyone considering!
What about styles other than punk? Do you think it could stand its own in a 2 guitar/bass/drums/vocals situation unmiced for soul, jazz, RnB stuff? We mostly play bars and small clubs. Thx in advance
@@xebio6 Yes it would work great for that style, but i would recommend getting the 15 watt tube versions instead for your situation. You can find them used and are fairly affordable.
@@jacobhenderson1763 That's the Tiny Terror?
@@xebio6 yes that and the dark terror. that combined with a 2x12 cab should be loud enough un-mic'd for your style. If not than you could go with the orange dual terror which is 30 watts. All three of those heads are very versatile for many different styles.
@@jacobhenderson1763 Thx so much!
Can you do the same video with tube versions?
What amps that purple bad cat one?
No ZT Lunchbox in the lunchbox test?
At the end of the day I still like listening to Rob noodle around on guitars.
What about the Marshall DSL-1?!
Love how you each had your own Klon to try out £300 amps
Think the orange was by far the most versatile! Decent cleans and orange growl with more gain, thought the others were toys samey over gain generic metal sounds , basically eye candy, same tones from most modelling amps , I think I just buy a terror stomp as it’s smaller and has the sounds of the micro dark!
Unless your going to get the orange save yourself the money and get a Marshall MG30.
As much as I thought i wanted a friedman be mini, I think the Orange sounded the best !
I don't understand...The Orange when gained up sounded flabby and not articulate.
@@stricknine8623 Clean your ears then
@@MegaAndyGG
Look here fuckstick,..If it were my ears,..nothing would sound good and plenty does sound good, just not this.
Now run along sport and don't forget to brush your teeth.
There’s something very Smashy and Nicey about these two together. Let’s rock! 😀
More like Simon and Lindsay from the Fast Show.. SHE'S ALL FIRED UP AND READY TO ROCK - LETS OFF ROAD! 😀
...and a big hello to all you truckers out there.
I feel the cab/speaker you are using is a lot more suitable for the Tele and the rock sounds, the LTD could work on something harsher. Or maybe some EQ pedal would help, especially with how limited EQ some of those preamps have. Would love to hear all of these through a V30 or DV-77 to an SM57 as well as a double mono or a stereo setup with one another for a budget version of Rabea-esque double Kraken sounds.
It was a V30 loaded 2x12 mic’ed with a 57!
I would've thought the Hughes & Kettner was worse in every way than the Vox MV50. Why was it not here? Did I miss something?
awesome video
Anyone know what riffs he is playing 16:16? Need your help fellas
I like how Rob say, what he thinks and how passionate he is, when he plays something he likes. It jumps out of the video on you. Was kinda missing that direct opinion lately. Also he is much more familiar with playing gainy amps, then both Pete and Lee.
Great video. The Friedman sounded as what it is, great solid state amp. But the Orange smashed both Friedman and Diezel ... Well done Orange.
But winner of this video is that black Tele
Damn, the Captain's thinline still is the best tele sound I've heard ❤
I got a Positive Grid Spark amp a few months ago. Its pretty good as I dont have any space for a pedal board in my bedroom. Would recommend the amp to anyone looking for a good practice amp. Only issue is it has quite a lot of bass as its made to be able to play drum tracks through
What 212 was used?
Sick! I have that same 7 string! SH7ET
Was Really Good 👍👍🎶🎶🎸
What cab please?
15:19 almost made me spit out my coffee🤣🤣🤣
For me the winning amp has to be the winner as the only amp in this video with a real clean sound. The H&K definitely has its place but to me the lack of a clean sound is just too limiting even though it had the best overdrive sound and was the loudest. Personally, I am mostly impressed by that Squire Telecaster. That is one model that I think Squire should make one of its regular series. The black semi-hollow body with the brushed aluminium scratch plate just looks awesome and it sounds great too.
BTW if you believe that is a potato masher and not Pete making up an excuse to feature sex toys in the videos...
Haha or just Pete making up excuses for owning a sex toy period
I have the MV50 Clean, has those nanotubes, have great bite, very loud, same issue, no effects loop, for reverb
I know it's unlikely, but I would LOVE to see a video with just Pete and Rob discussing a product. I feel like their dynamic hasn't been explored enough on this channel.
I agree, they are 2 ends of the spectrum and the combination of opinions they would offer would cover a lot of bases. Also the two of them jamming would definitely be interesting, different and more than likely awesome.
Boss SD-1 into Micro Dark with Reverb in the loop= Bliss.
You guys should check out the Bogner mini, if you have not already. IMO it is the best sounding of the minis so far.
I totally wanna turn my Micro Dark into a 1x10 combo
btw, just like in the computer parts world, when demoing new gear you also have to use high end other gear around it so there is no bottleneck in showing the quality of the demo piece of gear
You forgot the electro-harmonix howitzer 15 watts , that’s a great small practice amp, half the size , half the price as well.
God, had to warm up my old little Orange and drop a WishKlon in front of it with the same settings rob was using. Pretty sure my neighbors hate me right now. (Pushing 4 Celestion 12's)
That little Orange might be the best bang for the buck in the whole guitar world
19:05 rolling off the deep lmao!!! The captain seems to be smoking the devil's lettuce this morning haha
Maybe pit the best 2 of these against a couple of the little MV50 nutoob boxes from Vox?
Some nifty little amps, but more importantly...what a lush Tele
I think these are neat. Not my use case, but they are neat.
If you want a "micro head" that does everything BUT metal....get a Crate Powerblock. Stereo FX loop and stereo amps. Good cleans and a decent rock/blues overdrive. Takes pedals well...so put your best boost/drive for metal tones. I actually used it for an emergency PA amp one time.
i loved robs playing on the orange terror.
Strangely enough, I've watched other reviews of the Diezel mini and it slayed. It didn't seem to want to play with those single coils at all in this one.
Some amps love gain... it's kind of like with cars if you're going to stick a turbo kit on a motor they work okay with high output but turbo a low compression motor and you'll be drifting the neighborhood in no time LOL (sorry about using an apples to pork chops analogy lol... but in the same right where they are both very different they are also both incredibly the same)
Lol theoretically that is and by the way no I am not on anything and I am not drunk hahaha
Is Robb back in The UK to stay?
I want them to plug in to a 4x12.
I like that Chappers is critical of the products, but also very honest and fair. Even though these amps are quite the bargain, Chappers’ criticism is still valid.
Don't roll off the deep on the Diezel! The deep is where the metal "woof" comes from when chugging and is a KEY part of the Diezel sound!
Can you fit a sandwich in the back of these so they're actually lunchboxes? Asking for a friend.
love my micro dark
Seems like all solid state amps sound worse the louder they're played, at least the lower wattage ones do. I know Dimebag played 100 watt solid state Randalls on Pantera's early albums and it sounded good. But these may work live with a mic in front of it into a decent p.a. system
I occasionally run my fly 3 into an 80 watt 4 channel pa amp and out into a few cabs. Its ridiculously decent sounding.
I love that description, "ridiculously decent."
@@squidge7436 considering it's only a $50 piece of equipment, decent for sure.
@@squidge7436 what about "terribly good?"
where is the Bogner version?
and what a jam it was!