Have read On The Incarnation many times (the translation with the forward by CS Lewis) and learned so much from it. Very thought-provoking and yet easy to read and understand. Thank you for this video on his life!
Hey, sorry, your comment didn't show up in my notifications, so I'm just now seeing this. I appreciate the comment! On the Incarnation is a fascinating read, and it's clear why it has been so popular for as long as it has. It's funny that you mention that C.S. Lewis wrote the forward in your copy, seeing that both of their works are so easily accessible and easy to understand while also having layers of depth as you study it over time. Once again, thanks for the comment!
Thank you for your honest and kind response to my comment. Makes me appreciate you, your work and videos even more. Keep up the great work that helps so many of us viewers.
Thanks so much for this good biography. We do owe so much to this true saint. I am so grateful that he was so faithful and never gave up. We could all learn so much from him.
I have really enjoyed this overview of such an amazing demonstration of conviction, resolve, determination and commitment to his faith. His strength accounts the appropriateness of the title 'A Pillar of the Church' Indeed 'A rock in the ocean' unflinching by the 'throws of natures wrath' like 'Christ calming the storm'. I have so much more now to be thankful for. I thank God for blessing the Church with Athanasius sleep well Bishop of Alexandria.
I don't have much time to read, and have lately been interested in learning about the early church fathers. Good video! Wish I could read the whole biography! Maybe in heaven...
Why did you show the modified Nicene Creed (6:08) rather than the original with it's original language? You showed the Western amended version of the creed (adding the filioque centuries later) as the one written by the attendees of the Council of Nicaea 325 and Council of Constantinople 381, which is incorrect. Perhaps just an oversight, but quite a significant one. Other than that, I really enjoyed your biography of such an important early Christian leader.
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, that was on me; whenever I was putting it together a few years ago, I just had a big brain fart and messed it up. It is one of the biggest debates in the early church, and I literally put the wrong one, it was very embarrassing! It was an oversight, but as you said, it was a pretty big one in the video, and I apologize for the confusion in the video.
As of right now, I am publishing one video a month. It comes out on the 1st of each month if you would like to stay tuned! I appreciate the kind words!
Great work, the more that know the history of our faith, the stronger it stands and better equipped the church is to defend itself against the endless attacks like Arianism, which still rears its ugly head today.
I completely agree! Understanding the history of our faith has allowed me to recognize and adapt when I'm having conversations with people who are either new in their faith or just generally Christians when they are trying to deepen their faith and help them navigate some of these challenging topics. Even personally, it shapes my faith as I'm exposed to the breadth and depth of our history.
More! More!! This was such wonderful information but, is there a long version of the life of Athanasius? He went through so many different things that it’s hard to grasp it all in a short version in 12 minutes. You do a wonderful job on these videos. I just finished Anthony of Egypt, which led me here. I also would like to have a list of others who were living a hermit type life BEFORE Anthony because it says he learned from others. 😊
Thanks for the comment; yeah, that was on me; it was a big goof when I put the video together back when I created it, I wish I could have edited it after I published it, but I didn't have an option on TH-cam.
I am glad that you were able to come across this video in your journey. I hope you can continue to seek Jesus and that he will spark within you a light that helps guide you to his presence. I know it can feel very difficult to try and explore these ideas online, and it may be difficult to have important conversations with people you don't have deep relationships with. I would encourage you to try and find a local church that you feel you can trust and speak to a pastor or theologian about some of the ideas you have had that started you along your journey to Christ. I pray that you will find the grace and beauty in Christ and the great love that God has for all of his creation.
Thank you for your comment! I think it is so interesting looking at the whole life of Athanasius and seeing how he handled himself in the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. I think you can learn a lot about his ministry by studying his work from the pinnacle of his leadership to his years in exile.
Can you explain his spirituality? Is it his commitment to upholding the incarnation of the word, the divinity of Jesus, and the precepts of the Nicene Creed? We're these all inspired from his time with St Anthony?
Nice work, though tilted a little much in Athanasius' favor. Still, very informative, and I enjoy the artwork. I'll flag this one for re-watch. I'm studying the early church. Having a hard time coming to terms with the doctrine of the Trinity, so I'm studying its creation and evolution. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the feedback! The Trinity is something that takes a while to walk through so I hope that God is with you through your journey. Concerning the title, that title is often given to him so I decided to go with it this video since that is how his life unfolded going back and forth with those in authority in his day. But I do understand it is a little weighted toward the positive of Athanasius.
It's tilted in Athanasius' favor because he is correct. If Lord Jesus is not God, then what He did on the cross has no power and no meaning. A Christ that is separated from His divinity is an anti-christ.
@@libertyprime8228 - 1 Corinthians 15:21, Romans 5:15, Romans 5:17, and Romans 5:19 would disagree. The Bible teaches that death came through one man, Adam; therefore, the One saving us from death has to be one man too. It is not because Jesus is God that His death was sufficient; rather, it is because of God's grace that a man's death was sufficient for the trespasses of the entire world.
Thank you for this wonderful video. Other accounts of the council of Nicea say that the version of the creed you displayed was not the version approved by Nicaea. From "we believe in the Holy spirit" ..... was unchanged from the apostle's creed after nicaea. That change came from the council of Constantinople in 381 and Toledo c447 ? ?
Your Nicene Creed at 6:14 is incorrect, as it includes the Filioque (“and the Son”). The Western church changed the Creed and added this clause centuries later, which was one of the reasons for the Great Schism between East and West.
You are 100% correct. Thank you for that, when I put it together I was laying out the later version in an attempt to show the progression of the creed, but looking back it would’ve just been better just to add the original and shorter Creed of 325. Sorry about that but you are correct in your observation.
I'm glad you landed here, and I hope that it was helpful for your studies! If you don't mind me asking, what was the title of the devotional you were reading?
I appreciate you giving the video a chance, even if our faiths do not align. I'm glad that you were able to find the information in here helpful for your personal study. I hope that you continue your education in the Christian faith and if there is ever anything you need help with I hope my videos in the future can be as informative as this one.
It's important to understand the trauma and PTSD that runs all through Christian tradition in order to make sense of their incoherent polemics against us Muslims. Athanasius and the events of his life, just as the life of St Augustine are very essential in understanding their frame of reference and mentalities (moreso than even Paul and the New Testament). Understanding the overwhelming anxiety at the heart of Christian thought, history and culture helps massively to understand things like the utter fictions written by figures like John of Damascus and Thomas Aquinas against Islam.
@@jaymills7305 Oh well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "black." I mean, Alexandria is in modern-day Egypt, which is North Africa, so he and his parents were African. Most of the characters around Athanasius were from North Africa, but because Alexandria was second only to Rome, there was a high population of different Mediterranean ethnicities. But if you're referring to some of the whitewashed versions I used of him, I just tried to take whatever art I could find to have more photos to look at throughout the video.
He followed God 's Lesd and was able to accomplish much without being martyred. We should hide when the field is harsh and come back again to pursue righteousness to its fulness
I was studying the Council of Nicea, and came across your video. I agree with the 315 rather than the 3 who opposed the final wording. There is an Athanasian creed written around 500 AD, which would be after Athanasius passed away. To believe Jesus was a created person would give much less meaning to the New Covenant, and would diminish or destroy Mary being Theotokos(mother of God). It would also diminish the importance of praying through Jesus to reach the Father in Heaven(God), and would also separate Jesus from the holy Spirit. In other words, it would invalidate at least half of our faith and half of the Bible. Therefore we must accept and believe Jesus is consubstantial with the Father and regard his decrees, instructions and commandments as sourced from God in Heaven.
I have rea that Athanasius, as well as the Nicene Creed we use at Mass on Sundays and Solemnities, he also wrote an extended Creed which is even more strongly anti Arian, and which used to be read at Mass annually on Trinity Sunday. Can anyone confirm or correct that.
When Ptolomey conquered Egypt after Alexander died, Alexandria controlled trade. Greeks thought commerce was unworthy and delegated trade and tax collection to Jews--Egypt was the bread basket of antiquity. When Rome conquered the last Ptolomey--they continued to use of Jews. Philo of Alexander's brother was the chief tax collector for Egypt and Judea. Philo of Alexander wrote of logos--the word become flesh--well before the gospels and Athanasius. One of many Jewish philosophers who spoke Greek and hardly visited Judea. Of course, he borrowed that concept from the ancient Egyptian god kings. Connections.
When Athanasious was exiled, wasn’t he also excommunicated??? I understand it was the emperor that did it, but if excommunication happened - that is important to note!
Essentially every Orthodox bishop was exiled multiple times by Arian or semi-arian emperors. Even the Pope was exiled. Athanasius was exiled 5 times because he was a bishop for 45 years.
Athanasius said concerning Christ, “He was made man that we might be made God,” and “The Word was made flesh...that we, partaking of His Spirit, might be deified" This second part regarding the deification of man is sorely neglect in today's Christianity.
The original creed does not include the Filoqua; the Holy Spirit proceeds only from the Father (John 15:26). The Roman Catholics added “and the Son” later.
The trinity was given weight by Emperor Theodosius I by means of his Edict of Thessalonica. This edict was put in effect via the the Roman sword and received applause by one faction of Christians at the Council of Constantinople in 381. From 325 A.D. and 381 A.D. Emperors Constantius II and Valens made no such Edict being both followers of Arianism. In addition Constantine himself was baptized prior to his death by an Arian. There were other beliefs floating around in the 4th century and he trinity was never taught by Moses respecting the warning from Deut: 13 still gives pause for any serious minded believers. Shema.
You make good points. I would caution to say that the Trinity is the only doctrine brought into faith by the sword, we have 2000+ years of bloodshed that have led to doctrinal differences. For the opinion that Moses never taught about the Trinity, although it's a very nuanced topic, and couldn't be fully debated in the comments section, it is difficult to argue that because Moses did not speak in-depth about the Trinity, we as Christians shouldn't believe it. Moses never taught many things we find in the New Testament, and that has come through the enlightened faith that Jesus has provided us with. Abolition of the Law concerning salvation, saving grace offered to all people no matter nationality or conversion to Judaism, the idea of heaven, etc. were things that the NT developed within the Christian faith that differ from Moses' teachings about God and the world. As I said, I think there is ample room to converse about the understanding of the Trinity, but I personally do believe that God is one, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
@@ChristianBiographies Thank you for your kind demeanor in replying. I am not without prayerful time spent concerning the trinity doctrine voted on by men (ex-catholic). I am grounded within my conscience and only God rules that. There exists absolute statements to numerable to list here but 2 immediately come to mind. John 17:3 where the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD and John 4:23-24 "But a time is coming and has now come when the TRUE worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him. God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”… Most neglect Jesus read from Isaiah in Luke 4:18-19 where he confessed YHWH's spirit was upon him (like no other previous man). Christ is the living image of YHWH and our king, teacher, and brother as scripture teaches us. I am God's child not His brother. I believe in the same Jesus that Peter proclaims in Acts 2:22. P.S. Our bibles have been modified wether purposefully or accidentally; this also I believe.
You have clearly spent time contemplating the Trinity, these are good points. I've also spent many hours contemplating works like De Trinitate and the Summa Theologica (I'm not catholic, although I admit those are core Catholic books for the Trinity), as well as Scripture as a whole like John 1:1-5, Col 2:9, John 10:22-39, etc. The thing that always draws me back to the Trinity is the importance of the divinity of Christ in his sacrifice for humanity. If he is not fully divine with the Father, his sacrifice is essentially meaningless. But that opens a million other questions lol. But, you also bring up a very prominent point at the end, our view of Scripture plays heavily upon how strong we can view our beliefs. If you believe it's been corrupted, you don't necessarily have to argue from Sculpture since it doesn't hold weight. But if you believe that what we call Scripture is exactly what God intended, Scripture gives us the room to have strong beliefs based upon Biblical evidence. I'm not trying to say you don't use Scripture since you clearly provided it above, I just wanted to point out that your P.S. take is a very important take when talking about doctrinal beliefs.
@@ChristianBiographies - regarding Christ's sacrifice being essentially meaningless if He is not divine, 1 Corinthians 15:21, Romans 5:15, Romans 5:17, and Romans 5:19 would disagree. The Bible teaches that death came through one man, Adam; therefore, the One saving us from death has to be one man too. It is not because Jesus is God that His death was sufficient; rather, it is because of God's grace that a man's death was sufficient for the trespasses of the entire world. God bless.
I could not be that Athanasius against the world but Arius against the world. His work and writings were odered destroyed by imperial Rome while Athanasius keep attacking Arius.
I mean Athanasius was exiled 5 times and was threatened many times with people seeking to kill him. Arius died when Athansius was still new to his position, so he might have argued against ideas, but there are few accounts of Athanasius actually attacking Arius. Also Arius had many luxuries in his life so I would disagree with your claim of Arius against the world.
The research that I've done points to him growing up within a Christian family. You may have heard of a famous story from his childhood where he and some of his childhood friends were giving each other mock baptisms and it's said this was the first time Alexander took notice of the young Athanasius. Since the fact that he was able to recite the phrases for baptism seems to mean that he was very familiar with the faith. This along with the fact that he went through the catechism school of Alexandria means that whether his family was Christian, which I believe it was, or it wasn't, he was integrated within the Christian faith from a very young age.
I very much appreciate that! I'm very glad to hear that it was informative for you! I love when people leave the videos with a better understanding than they came in with, it means all the hard work paid off lol.
With respect to your presentation, I must make a clear observation about a major detail that goes unnoticed. At minute 6:15 you present a Creed and you name this Nicene Creed, but this is not accurate history, because you do not present the original Creed, but the one with the filioque ADDITION. The filioque clause (Latin filioque, “and the son”), inserted after the words “the Holy Spirit,…who proceeds from the Father,” was gradually introduced as part of the Creed in the Western church, beginning in the 6th century. It was probably finally accepted by the papacy in the 11th century. It has been retained by the Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Protestant churches. Eastern Orthodox Churches have always rejected the filioque clause. EASTERN ORTHODOX Curches consider it a THEOLOGICAL ERROR and AN UNAUTHORIZED ADDITION to a venerable document.
Yeah, that was a goof from me that I overlooked after doing post-production for my video. I do think the development and the conversation is very interesting within the conversation of the work of Athanasius. Does his theological development work with the "and the son" addition, or would he reject it? But of course, that is a 1500-year-old conversation that can't be answered in the comment section lol.
@@ChristianBiographies It's like asking which side would pick Saint Athanasius, the Orthodox side or the Catholic side. His name means eternal life. His work is eternal, he is a Saint. Saint Athanasius the Great is holy, he is holy for both sides. So, in order to answer your question, you need to unite the two Churches.
Next Year in 2025 Anniversary of Nicaea/Your videos are Wonderful Please let us know where paintings are from at 1/30 and all of them 2/55 what are Greek words saying ? video needed just for art all of your depictions for Art Lovers like me 318 exactly were at Nicaea a number chosen to reflect Abraham Army in Genesis 5/47 Final vote not Unanimous sadly even at First ever Church Council in History Please do as you say and dedicate a video to each exile 7/16 as tribute to Fearless Athanasius for next year Tribute 325 to 2025 Emperor Julian 9/55 as The Apostate A tragedy considering he was descendant of Emperor Constantine the Great/Saint together with his mother Saint Helena in Orthodox East Founder of First Christian Dynasty at First Christian City/City of God Thy Kingdom come on earth 12/05 we are currently living in worst ever changing period of Church History since Vatican II was not based on Supernatural/Transcendant Extraordinary Objective Truth but intentionally mixed with Immanent evolving subjective to paralyse Doctrine in order to bring about New Gospel Earthbound Gospel of man for New Age New World Order Masonic Order where Man is God as Paul VI Declared December 8 1965 we have the cult/religion of Man
Arianism" was actually the status quo prior to the 300s, when pagan converts changed the Sabbath, started worshipping Jesus as a god, created Christmas as we know it, gave the Pope supreme power, discouraged marriage, and so much more
Athanasius is revered as a 'saint' purely due to his involvement in establishing the 'trinity' doctrine. If you read carefully his beliefs you will see that he actually DENIED that Jesus suffered for us! "In himself he suffered no injury being impassible & immortal and very word of God" ( De Incartatione 54 ). So he taught there was no real 'son of God' whom the Father in his supreme love for mankind 'gave' for us! His whole life of hardship, pain, suffering & even dying was to Athanasius a non reality object lesson!
Forgive me, but the lighthouse in Alexandria was not "Pharoah's Lighthouse," as you say. The correct name is "Pharos." Being one of the seven wonders of the world, historical material about it, such as its name, is easy to find. Therefore, you should be more careful if you are creating content about history to not teach mistakes like this. I can see how you might guess that the name of this structure has to do with Pharoah, because it's in Egypt. But even that part of your presentation is also wrong. There was no Pharoah at the time of Athanasius. Cleopatra is generally regarded as the last Pharoah, or National Geographic says it was Caesarion, the love child of Caesar and Cleopatra. Regardless, this is 300 years before Athanasius. The video contains other errors as well, some of which are pointed out by others in the comments. Your history skills are too weak for you to attempt to teach others. Best wishes, but please be more careful and check your facts before attempting to teach history.
Thanks for the comment; there were definitely some mistakes, I don't think anyone's perception of the world would be changed by the pronunciation of the lighthouse, but nevertheless, I appreciate your comment. I look forward to seeing your creations on TH-cam so we can see your excellent history skills. Make sure to attach your videos in the comments so we can all have access to historically accurate content.
I see these heretics spreading their heresy on Saturdays when I go to Hastings. Normally I can avoid them. There are other unitarians not just the JWs, although they are the most prominent.
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The word became a man, the word is be and he was ……..(The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allāh and His word which He directed to Mary) 4:171
Appart from the supposed victory of words that Athanasius imposed on the council of Nicea, a close scrutiny of his writings reveals many inconsistencies in his philosphic based ideas; example " Was God 'who is' ever without reason ( Word)"? ( Contra Arianos 1 24-25) Thus he is claiming that Since thr Father has always possed 'reason', it follows the 'Word has always been, without a beginning'. This is stuble but FALSE reasoning since it was the Greeks who believed in the 'Logos' as 'reason', whereas the bible writer John calls Jesus the 'Word' with no thought of greek philosophy. Logos in greek simply means 'the expression of thought'. Thus The Father possed 'reason' & thought' for the eternity that he existed. However when He decided to create, first heavanly things, then earthly, he THEN spoke and said 'let it be'. Thats when the 'Word' would have existed, first to be 'begotten' and then to act as the Father's spokesman. ( John not only called Jesus 'God's Word' but also called John the Baptist ' A VOICE crying out in the wilderness John 1: 23. So John called a 'person' a 'voice' as he did with God's Son who said "He that heareth my WORD and believeth on Him who sent me" John 5:23. So Athanasius is using the GREEK PHILOSOPHY definition of 'Logos' to make his arguement that the Son is 'coeternal' rather than focus on the biblical use of 'Logos'. John as a fisherman had no interest in greek philosophy!) The 'Word' to him was a PERSON, not a quality of God! ( John also wrote that Jesus was the 'door' the 'Way' the 'truth' the 'life' & even the 'vine' and 'bread' all these indefinite nouns are mere descriptions of a real PERSON, Jesus the SON of God! This is just illustrates the false reasoning of Athanasius! I can give many other examples.
You are correct! This title is often referenced as being given to him by his enemies. I ran across the title early on in my studies but I can't find the exact citation where this originally was stated. If you know where to find it drop a link and let me know.
Firstly, no human has a right to make another human a 'saint'. Only God can decide that ! ( Titus 1:1) Secondly in 'Arianos 111 Athanasius states " Not even the Son knows" ( matt 24:36) It shows a DEFECT in ( his) human nature". Thus this so called 'saint; actually taught that that Jesus Christ had 'defects'. Yet Jesus was a perfect man, "undefield,seperate from sinners" ( Heb 7:26). If you examine Athanasius's writings there are som many false statements and unscriptural views!
That quote does not encapsulate the teachings of Athanasius. There is no way you can read all of his work and think that he believed that Jesus was not fully God. That was literally his entire argument against the people around him who sought to make Jesus merely a man or even worse. Athanasius's teachings are filled with his belief that Jesus was fully God and fully man. Hence the term "Word Become Man."
@@ChristianBiographies Thanks for your comment! It is true what you say aout Athanasius's view of Jesus.However I find so many cotradictions in the 'philosophies' of the church fathers. ( most of them had that background of education) for example, Origen whose writings basically agreed wit Athanasius yet he still stated "God the Father since He embraces all things, touchrs thing that exists since He bestows on all existance from his own existance, for he is 'He who is'.The Son is Inferiour in relation to the Father since he touches only things endowed with reason. for he is subordinated to the Father" ( Justinian Ep Ad Menam 1X 542) I have found so many contradictions and ideas that are falsifications of what the bible actually says! Plus contradictions. Ie It was the Idea of Athanasius that Jesus is 'very God of Very God' which in itself is a contradiction, for if the Son is OF God then he owes existance to the Father! This is the whole trouble with philosophy! its just a play on words! We need to remember that "The Faith was delivered to the Holy ones ONCE AND FOR ALL" ( Jude 3) this was written in 55AD. We dont need learned & clever church writers to ADD anything to the Gospel of Christ! The NT actually warns against it! ( See Acts 20:28) Note 'from amoung your yourselves" yes 'bishops' e.t..c This is exactly what happened from the 2nd century onwards! The history of 'christendom' from then onwards is filled with, ambition, greed for power, corruption, bigotary, hatred and even Murder! Would you like a few examples?. I just stick to the bible these days! Its not good to follow manmade churches & religions. None of them have got it all right! Faith is an individual things! Good bless you!"
God can't turn to human. 3emlo jesus divine tay kon elo 3aze Christianity. Constantine wanted unity w stability mesh la2ano hamo. 315 to 310 so arius lost damn life would be way different
I think it’s hard to argue Arius had much of a deep theological conviction about true Biblical interpretation. So I would agree and say that Arius’s theological forms did die out, but the question about God’s relationship with humanity did not die out. The discussion around the relationship with God and man continue today, and have been debated throughout all of Christian history. There have been many faithful Christians who have struggled with this doctrine, but for the biography of Athanasius the idea that Jesus was the God-man was absolutely critical.
Every faithful Christians owe a tribute to this blessed man
Peace be upon Saint Athanasius of Alexandria 🤲💗
All Glory to God
Have read On The Incarnation many times (the translation with the forward by CS Lewis) and learned so much from it. Very thought-provoking and yet easy to read and understand. Thank you for this video on his life!
Hey, sorry, your comment didn't show up in my notifications, so I'm just now seeing this. I appreciate the comment! On the Incarnation is a fascinating read, and it's clear why it has been so popular for as long as it has. It's funny that you mention that C.S. Lewis wrote the forward in your copy, seeing that both of their works are so easily accessible and easy to understand while also having layers of depth as you study it over time. Once again, thanks for the comment!
Thank you for your honest and kind response to my comment. Makes me appreciate you, your work and videos even more. Keep up the great work that helps so many of us viewers.
I am a Theology student, and we are commencing our studies on Athanasius..
Thank you for an I formative video.
That is awesome to hear! I hope this video helped give you an overview of the life and works of Athanasius! I hope you enjoy the rest of your studies.
Thanks so much for this good biography. We do owe so much to this true saint. I am so grateful that he was so faithful and never gave up. We could all learn so much from him.
Thank you for your kind words! I am glad to have seen so many people comment about their appreciation for the life and works of Athanasius.
I have really enjoyed this overview of such an amazing demonstration of conviction, resolve, determination and commitment to his faith. His strength accounts the appropriateness of the title 'A Pillar of the Church' Indeed 'A rock in the ocean' unflinching by the 'throws of natures wrath' like 'Christ calming the storm'. I have so much more now to be thankful for. I thank God for blessing the Church with Athanasius sleep well Bishop of Alexandria.
I don't have much time to read, and have lately been interested in learning about the early church fathers. Good video! Wish I could read the whole biography! Maybe in heaven...
Why did you show the modified Nicene Creed (6:08) rather than the original with it's original language? You showed the Western amended version of the creed (adding the filioque centuries later) as the one written by the attendees of the Council of Nicaea 325 and Council of Constantinople 381, which is incorrect. Perhaps just an oversight, but quite a significant one. Other than that, I really enjoyed your biography of such an important early Christian leader.
Thanks for the comment! Yeah, that was on me; whenever I was putting it together a few years ago, I just had a big brain fart and messed it up. It is one of the biggest debates in the early church, and I literally put the wrong one, it was very embarrassing! It was an oversight, but as you said, it was a pretty big one in the video, and I apologize for the confusion in the video.
I'm glad I came across this channel. Highly informative and well explained. More please. :- ) 🙏
As of right now, I am publishing one video a month. It comes out on the 1st of each month if you would like to stay tuned! I appreciate the kind words!
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Great work, the more that know the history of our faith, the stronger it stands and better equipped the church is to defend itself against the endless attacks like Arianism, which still rears its ugly head today.
I completely agree! Understanding the history of our faith has allowed me to recognize and adapt when I'm having conversations with people who are either new in their faith or just generally Christians when they are trying to deepen their faith and help them navigate some of these challenging topics. Even personally, it shapes my faith as I'm exposed to the breadth and depth of our history.
More! More!!
This was such wonderful information but, is there a long version of the life of Athanasius? He went through so many different things that it’s hard to grasp it all in a short version in 12 minutes. You do a wonderful job on these videos. I just finished Anthony of Egypt, which led me here. I also would like to have a list of others who were living a hermit type life BEFORE Anthony because it says he learned from others. 😊
Excellent video! Little side note though. The filioque is a later addition to the Nicene creed. It was not present in the original writing.
Thanks for the comment; yeah, that was on me; it was a big goof when I put the video together back when I created it, I wish I could have edited it after I published it, but I didn't have an option on TH-cam.
I came across this looking for videos about Athanasius.
Thank you for this video about Athanasius.
I'm glad you came and watched it!
Thank you for this video on Athanasius, it helped me alot, God bless you 🙏😇
Found this videos very helpful. As a Catholic I found this helpful
Thank you so much! I am glad to hear you were able to find the video helpful!
Currently reading about the church fathers and this helped a lot!
That is awesome to hear! I hope your studies go well as your understanding grows.
Good job. Thank you.
This is very insightful. Real learning
Thanks I appreciate that!
His life was committed to the defense of the divinity thank you
Looking for Jesus and trying to find Him is what brought me to this video. Im still looking for Him.
I am glad that you were able to come across this video in your journey. I hope you can continue to seek Jesus and that he will spark within you a light that helps guide you to his presence. I know it can feel very difficult to try and explore these ideas online, and it may be difficult to have important conversations with people you don't have deep relationships with. I would encourage you to try and find a local church that you feel you can trust and speak to a pastor or theologian about some of the ideas you have had that started you along your journey to Christ. I pray that you will find the grace and beauty in Christ and the great love that God has for all of his creation.
@ChristianBiographies honestly I'm getting tired of looking. I'm looking, and looking and looking. I'm frustrated and fed up.
I like how steadfast he was in spite of this systemic attack on his ministery
Thank you for your comment! I think it is so interesting looking at the whole life of Athanasius and seeing how he handled himself in the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. I think you can learn a lot about his ministry by studying his work from the pinnacle of his leadership to his years in exile.
Can you explain his spirituality? Is it his commitment to upholding the incarnation of the word, the divinity of Jesus, and the precepts of the Nicene Creed? We're these all inspired from his time with St Anthony?
Nice work, though tilted a little much in Athanasius' favor. Still, very informative, and I enjoy the artwork. I'll flag this one for re-watch. I'm studying the early church. Having a hard time coming to terms with the doctrine of the Trinity, so I'm studying its creation and evolution. Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the feedback! The Trinity is something that takes a while to walk through so I hope that God is with you through your journey. Concerning the title, that title is often given to him so I decided to go with it this video since that is how his life unfolded going back and forth with those in authority in his day. But I do understand it is a little weighted toward the positive of Athanasius.
It's tilted in Athanasius' favor because he is correct. If Lord Jesus is not God, then what He did on the cross has no power and no meaning. A Christ that is separated from His divinity is an anti-christ.
@@libertyprime8228 - 1 Corinthians 15:21, Romans 5:15, Romans 5:17, and Romans 5:19 would disagree. The Bible teaches that death came through one man, Adam; therefore, the One saving us from death has to be one man too. It is not because Jesus is God that His death was sufficient; rather, it is because of God's grace that a man's death was sufficient for the trespasses of the entire world.
Thank you for this wonderful video. Other accounts of the council of Nicea say that the version of the creed you displayed was not the version approved by Nicaea. From "we believe in the Holy spirit" ..... was unchanged from the apostle's creed after nicaea. That change came from the council of Constantinople in 381 and Toledo c447 ? ?
Very inspiring!!
Thank you very much! I'm glad to see Athanasius' life has inspired you!
Your Nicene Creed at 6:14 is incorrect, as it includes the Filioque (“and the Son”). The Western church changed the Creed and added this clause centuries later, which was one of the reasons for the Great Schism between East and West.
You are 100% correct. Thank you for that, when I put it together I was laying out the later version in an attempt to show the progression of the creed, but looking back it would’ve just been better just to add the original and shorter Creed of 325. Sorry about that but you are correct in your observation.
As a confessional Lutheran you are correct. The filioque is wrong and Luther overlooked it
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Reading a devotional about St Athanasius brought me here📖
I'm glad you landed here, and I hope that it was helpful for your studies! If you don't mind me asking, what was the title of the devotional you were reading?
well done.
Thank you!
Thank you!
I'm a Muslim and this was a very informative video maybe we don't watch your videos for the same reasons as Christians
but still thanks
I appreciate you giving the video a chance, even if our faiths do not align. I'm glad that you were able to find the information in here helpful for your personal study. I hope that you continue your education in the Christian faith and if there is ever anything you need help with I hope my videos in the future can be as informative as this one.
It's important to understand the trauma and PTSD that runs all through Christian tradition in order to make sense of their incoherent polemics against us Muslims.
Athanasius and the events of his life, just as the life of St Augustine are very essential in understanding their frame of reference and mentalities (moreso than even Paul and the New Testament).
Understanding the overwhelming anxiety at the heart of Christian thought, history and culture helps massively to understand things like the utter fictions written by figures like John of Damascus and Thomas Aquinas against Islam.
@@HastenforthedawmSo gaslighting, then...
Keep it up.
If not for him and his determined fight against Arianism, we would be Jehovah Witnesses.
Jesus: Paganism is good, so ask the statues, O barbarian, to help you in your grave 😂😂😂
or Muslims!
You know what....I think your right 👍
islsm is not created at that time..
Take your churches back from heresy.
If you fail, try again.
Never give up until Christ prevails!
Good stuff! These pictures are all over the place. Why is that?
Pretty simply I'm not very good at editing videos, and I'm just doing whatever I can to make it look half way decent lol.
@@ChristianBiographies What I'm asking is are these black ppl?
@@jaymills7305 Oh well, I guess it depends on what you mean by "black." I mean, Alexandria is in modern-day Egypt, which is North Africa, so he and his parents were African. Most of the characters around Athanasius were from North Africa, but because Alexandria was second only to Rome, there was a high population of different Mediterranean ethnicities. But if you're referring to some of the whitewashed versions I used of him, I just tried to take whatever art I could find to have more photos to look at throughout the video.
He followed God 's Lesd and was able to accomplish much without being martyred. We should hide when the field is harsh and come back again to pursue righteousness to its fulness
I was studying the Council of Nicea, and came across your video. I agree with the 315 rather than the 3 who opposed the final wording.
There is an Athanasian creed written around 500 AD, which would be after Athanasius passed away.
To believe Jesus was a created person would give much less meaning to the New Covenant, and would diminish or destroy Mary being Theotokos(mother of God). It would also diminish the importance of praying through Jesus to reach the Father in Heaven(God), and would also separate Jesus from the holy Spirit.
In other words, it would invalidate at least half of our faith and half of the Bible.
Therefore we must accept and believe Jesus is consubstantial with the Father and regard his decrees, instructions and commandments as sourced from God in Heaven.
I have rea that Athanasius, as well as the Nicene Creed we use at Mass on Sundays and Solemnities, he also wrote an extended Creed which is even more strongly anti Arian, and which used to be read at Mass annually on Trinity Sunday. Can anyone confirm or correct that.
Gabriel began to mention his name with God, and he was even afraid of God and did not know what he looked like
Actually in counsel of nicea, its Arius against the world
Don't stop
When Ptolomey conquered Egypt after Alexander died, Alexandria controlled trade. Greeks thought commerce was unworthy and delegated trade and tax collection to Jews--Egypt was the bread basket of antiquity. When Rome conquered the last Ptolomey--they continued to use of Jews. Philo of Alexander's brother was the chief tax collector for Egypt and Judea. Philo of Alexander wrote of logos--the word become flesh--well before the gospels and Athanasius. One of many Jewish philosophers who spoke Greek and hardly visited Judea. Of course, he borrowed that concept from the ancient Egyptian god kings. Connections.
When Athanasious was exiled, wasn’t he also excommunicated??? I understand it was the emperor that did it, but if excommunication happened - that is important to note!
Essentially every Orthodox bishop was exiled multiple times by Arian or semi-arian emperors. Even the Pope was exiled. Athanasius was exiled 5 times because he was a bishop for 45 years.
Actually it’s Arius against the world, but history is written by the winners.
such a shame..
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Athanasius said concerning Christ, “He was made man that we might be made God,” and “The Word was made flesh...that we, partaking of His Spirit, might be deified" This second part regarding the deification of man is sorely neglect in today's Christianity.
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You asked what brought me to this video? It was the Holy Spirit.
I'm glad that you have landed here, and I hope the Holy Spirit used this video to speak to you.
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The original creed does not include the Filoqua; the Holy Spirit proceeds only from the Father (John 15:26). The Roman Catholics added “and the Son” later.
@Tanya No, a universal council never added it. Some churches in Spain starting adding it and, eventually, the Pope sanctioned it.
The trinity was given weight by Emperor Theodosius I by means of his Edict of Thessalonica. This edict was put in effect via the the Roman sword and received applause by one faction of Christians at the Council of Constantinople in 381. From 325 A.D. and 381 A.D. Emperors Constantius II and Valens made no such Edict being both followers of Arianism. In addition Constantine himself was baptized prior to his death by an Arian. There were other beliefs floating around in the 4th century and he trinity was never taught by Moses respecting the warning from Deut: 13 still gives pause for any serious minded believers. Shema.
You make good points. I would caution to say that the Trinity is the only doctrine brought into faith by the sword, we have 2000+ years of bloodshed that have led to doctrinal differences. For the opinion that Moses never taught about the Trinity, although it's a very nuanced topic, and couldn't be fully debated in the comments section, it is difficult to argue that because Moses did not speak in-depth about the Trinity, we as Christians shouldn't believe it. Moses never taught many things we find in the New Testament, and that has come through the enlightened faith that Jesus has provided us with. Abolition of the Law concerning salvation, saving grace offered to all people no matter nationality or conversion to Judaism, the idea of heaven, etc. were things that the NT developed within the Christian faith that differ from Moses' teachings about God and the world. As I said, I think there is ample room to converse about the understanding of the Trinity, but I personally do believe that God is one, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
@@ChristianBiographies Thank you for your kind demeanor in replying. I am not without prayerful time spent concerning the trinity doctrine voted on by men (ex-catholic). I am grounded within my conscience and only God rules that. There exists absolute statements to numerable to list here but 2 immediately come to mind. John 17:3 where the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD and John 4:23-24 "But a time is coming and has now come when the TRUE worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him. God is Spirit, and His worshipers must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”…
Most neglect Jesus read from Isaiah in Luke 4:18-19 where he confessed YHWH's spirit was upon him (like no other previous man). Christ is the living image of YHWH and our king, teacher, and brother as scripture teaches us. I am God's child not His brother. I believe in the same Jesus that Peter proclaims in Acts 2:22.
P.S. Our bibles have been modified wether purposefully or accidentally; this also I believe.
You have clearly spent time contemplating the Trinity, these are good points. I've also spent many hours contemplating works like De Trinitate and the Summa Theologica (I'm not catholic, although I admit those are core Catholic books for the Trinity), as well as Scripture as a whole like John 1:1-5, Col 2:9, John 10:22-39, etc. The thing that always draws me back to the Trinity is the importance of the divinity of Christ in his sacrifice for humanity. If he is not fully divine with the Father, his sacrifice is essentially meaningless. But that opens a million other questions lol.
But, you also bring up a very prominent point at the end, our view of Scripture plays heavily upon how strong we can view our beliefs. If you believe it's been corrupted, you don't necessarily have to argue from Sculpture since it doesn't hold weight. But if you believe that what we call Scripture is exactly what God intended, Scripture gives us the room to have strong beliefs based upon Biblical evidence. I'm not trying to say you don't use Scripture since you clearly provided it above, I just wanted to point out that your P.S. take is a very important take when talking about doctrinal beliefs.
@@ChristianBiographies - regarding Christ's sacrifice being essentially meaningless if He is not divine, 1 Corinthians 15:21, Romans 5:15, Romans 5:17, and Romans 5:19 would disagree. The Bible teaches that death came through one man, Adam; therefore, the One saving us from death has to be one man too. It is not because Jesus is God that His death was sufficient; rather, it is because of God's grace that a man's death was sufficient for the trespasses of the entire world. God bless.
I could not be that Athanasius against the world but Arius against the world. His work and writings were odered destroyed by imperial Rome while Athanasius keep attacking Arius.
I mean Athanasius was exiled 5 times and was threatened many times with people seeking to kill him. Arius died when Athansius was still new to his position, so he might have argued against ideas, but there are few accounts of Athanasius actually attacking Arius. Also Arius had many luxuries in his life so I would disagree with your claim of Arius against the world.
Okay you say he grew up in a Christian family.. but I just saw another video on this man's life and they said he grew up into a pagan home
The research that I've done points to him growing up within a Christian family. You may have heard of a famous story from his childhood where he and some of his childhood friends were giving each other mock baptisms and it's said this was the first time Alexander took notice of the young Athanasius. Since the fact that he was able to recite the phrases for baptism seems to mean that he was very familiar with the faith. This along with the fact that he went through the catechism school of Alexandria means that whether his family was Christian, which I believe it was, or it wasn't, he was integrated within the Christian faith from a very young age.
@@ChristianBiographies I dont doubt you. I think this was a very beautifully put together video which I learned from.
I very much appreciate that! I'm very glad to hear that it was informative for you! I love when people leave the videos with a better understanding than they came in with, it means all the hard work paid off lol.
With respect to your presentation, I must make a clear observation about a major detail that goes unnoticed. At minute 6:15 you present a Creed and you name this Nicene Creed, but this is not accurate history, because you do not present the original Creed, but the one with the filioque ADDITION.
The filioque clause (Latin filioque, “and the son”), inserted after the words “the Holy Spirit,…who proceeds from the Father,” was gradually introduced as part of the Creed in the Western church, beginning in the 6th century. It was probably finally accepted by the papacy in the 11th century. It has been retained by the Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Protestant churches.
Eastern Orthodox Churches have always rejected the filioque clause. EASTERN ORTHODOX Curches consider it a THEOLOGICAL ERROR and AN UNAUTHORIZED ADDITION to a venerable document.
Yeah, that was a goof from me that I overlooked after doing post-production for my video. I do think the development and the conversation is very interesting within the conversation of the work of Athanasius. Does his theological development work with the "and the son" addition, or would he reject it? But of course, that is a 1500-year-old conversation that can't be answered in the comment section lol.
@@ChristianBiographies It's like asking which side would pick Saint Athanasius, the Orthodox side or the Catholic side.
His name means eternal life. His work is eternal, he is a Saint.
Saint Athanasius the Great is holy, he is holy for both sides. So, in order to answer your question, you need to unite the two Churches.
Next Year in 2025 Anniversary of Nicaea/Your videos are Wonderful
Please let us know where paintings are from at 1/30 and all of them
2/55 what are Greek words saying ? video needed just for art all of your depictions for Art Lovers like me
318 exactly were at Nicaea a number chosen to reflect Abraham Army in Genesis
5/47 Final vote not Unanimous sadly even at First ever Church Council in History
Please do as you say and dedicate a video to each exile 7/16 as tribute to Fearless Athanasius for next year Tribute 325 to 2025
Emperor Julian 9/55 as The Apostate A tragedy considering he was descendant of Emperor Constantine the Great/Saint together with his mother Saint Helena in Orthodox East Founder of First Christian Dynasty at First Christian City/City of God Thy Kingdom come on earth
12/05 we are currently living in worst ever changing period of Church History since Vatican II was not based on Supernatural/Transcendant Extraordinary Objective Truth but intentionally mixed with Immanent evolving subjective to paralyse Doctrine in order to bring about New Gospel Earthbound Gospel of man for New Age New World Order Masonic Order where Man is God as
Paul VI Declared December 8 1965 we have the cult/religion of Man
Arianism" was actually the status quo prior to the 300s, when pagan converts changed the Sabbath, started worshipping Jesus as a god, created Christmas as we know it, gave the Pope supreme power, discouraged marriage, and so much more
Athanasius is revered as a 'saint' purely due to his involvement in establishing the 'trinity' doctrine. If you read carefully his beliefs you will see that he actually DENIED that Jesus suffered for us! "In himself he suffered no injury being impassible & immortal and very word of God" ( De Incartatione 54 ). So he taught there was no real 'son of God' whom the Father in his supreme love for mankind 'gave' for us! His whole life of hardship, pain, suffering & even dying was to Athanasius a non reality object lesson!
Forgive me, but the lighthouse in Alexandria was not "Pharoah's Lighthouse," as you say. The correct name is "Pharos."
Being one of the seven wonders of the world, historical material about it, such as its name, is easy to find.
Therefore, you should be more careful if you are creating content about history to not teach mistakes like this.
I can see how you might guess that the name of this structure has to do with Pharoah, because it's in Egypt.
But even that part of your presentation is also wrong.
There was no Pharoah at the time of Athanasius.
Cleopatra is generally regarded as the last Pharoah, or National Geographic says it was Caesarion, the love child of Caesar and Cleopatra. Regardless, this is 300 years before Athanasius.
The video contains other errors as well, some of which are pointed out by others in the comments.
Your history skills are too weak for you to attempt to teach others.
Best wishes, but please be more careful and check your facts before attempting to teach history.
Thanks for the comment; there were definitely some mistakes, I don't think anyone's perception of the world would be changed by the pronunciation of the lighthouse, but nevertheless, I appreciate your comment. I look forward to seeing your creations on TH-cam so we can see your excellent history skills. Make sure to attach your videos in the comments so we can all have access to historically accurate content.
Arianism, more popularly known as Jehovah's Witnesses, still heresy.
I see these heretics spreading their heresy on Saturdays when I go to Hastings. Normally I can avoid them. There are other unitarians not just the JWs, although they are the most prominent.
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Team Arius
His most common nickname was “the black dwarf.” Are you ashamed that he was short or that he was black?
Why would I be ashamed?
The word became a man, the word is be and he was ……..(The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allāh and His word which He directed to Mary) 4:171
Appart from the supposed victory of words that Athanasius imposed on the council of Nicea, a close scrutiny of his writings reveals many inconsistencies in his philosphic based ideas; example " Was God 'who is' ever without reason ( Word)"? ( Contra Arianos 1 24-25) Thus he is claiming that Since thr Father has always possed 'reason', it follows the 'Word has always been, without a beginning'. This is stuble but FALSE reasoning since it was the Greeks who believed in the 'Logos' as 'reason', whereas the bible writer John calls Jesus the 'Word' with no thought of greek philosophy. Logos in greek simply means 'the expression of thought'. Thus The Father possed 'reason' & thought' for the eternity that he existed. However when He decided to create, first heavanly things, then earthly, he THEN spoke and said 'let it be'. Thats when the 'Word' would have existed, first to be 'begotten' and then to act as the Father's spokesman. ( John not only called Jesus 'God's Word' but also called John the Baptist ' A VOICE crying out in the wilderness John 1: 23. So John called a 'person' a 'voice' as he did with God's Son who said "He that heareth my WORD and believeth on Him who sent me" John 5:23.
So Athanasius is using the GREEK PHILOSOPHY definition of 'Logos' to make his arguement that the Son is 'coeternal' rather than focus on the biblical use of 'Logos'. John as a fisherman had no interest in greek philosophy!) The 'Word' to him was a PERSON, not a quality of God! ( John also wrote that Jesus was the 'door' the 'Way' the 'truth' the 'life' & even the 'vine' and 'bread' all these indefinite nouns are mere descriptions of a real PERSON, Jesus the SON of God! This is just illustrates the false reasoning of Athanasius! I can give many other examples.
Athanasius was also known as the "Black Dwarf".
You are correct! This title is often referenced as being given to him by his enemies. I ran across the title early on in my studies but I can't find the exact citation where this originally was stated. If you know where to find it drop a link and let me know.
Firstly, no human has a right to make another human a 'saint'. Only God can decide that ! ( Titus 1:1) Secondly in 'Arianos 111
Athanasius states " Not even the Son knows" ( matt 24:36) It shows a DEFECT in ( his) human nature". Thus this so called 'saint; actually taught that that Jesus Christ had 'defects'. Yet Jesus was a perfect man, "undefield,seperate from sinners" ( Heb 7:26). If you examine Athanasius's writings there are som many false statements and unscriptural views!
That quote does not encapsulate the teachings of Athanasius. There is no way you can read all of his work and think that he believed that Jesus was not fully God. That was literally his entire argument against the people around him who sought to make Jesus merely a man or even worse. Athanasius's teachings are filled with his belief that Jesus was fully God and fully man. Hence the term "Word Become Man."
@@ChristianBiographies Thanks for your comment! It is true what you say aout Athanasius's view of Jesus.However I find so many cotradictions in the 'philosophies' of the church fathers. ( most of them had that background of education) for example, Origen whose writings basically agreed wit Athanasius yet he still stated
"God the Father since He embraces
all things, touchrs thing that exists
since He bestows on all existance
from his own existance, for he is
'He who is'.The Son is Inferiour in
relation to the Father since he touches
only things endowed with reason. for
he is subordinated to the Father"
( Justinian Ep Ad Menam 1X 542)
I have found so many contradictions and
ideas that are falsifications of what the bible actually says! Plus contradictions. Ie It was the Idea of Athanasius that Jesus is 'very God of Very God' which in itself is a contradiction, for if the Son is OF God then he owes existance to the Father! This is the whole trouble with philosophy! its just a play on words! We need to remember that
"The Faith was delivered to the Holy ones ONCE AND FOR ALL" ( Jude 3)
this was written in 55AD. We dont need learned & clever church writers to ADD anything to the Gospel of Christ! The NT actually warns against it! ( See Acts 20:28) Note 'from amoung your yourselves" yes 'bishops' e.t..c This is exactly what happened from the 2nd century onwards! The history of 'christendom' from then onwards is filled with, ambition, greed for power, corruption, bigotary, hatred and even Murder! Would you like a few examples?. I just stick to the bible these days! Its not good to follow manmade churches & religions. None of them have got it all right! Faith is an individual things! Good bless you!"
Arius makes way more sense
God can't turn to human. 3emlo jesus divine tay kon elo 3aze Christianity. Constantine wanted unity w stability mesh la2ano hamo. 315 to 310 so arius lost damn life would be way different
I think it’s hard to argue Arius had much of a deep theological conviction about true Biblical interpretation. So I would agree and say that Arius’s theological forms did die out, but the question about God’s relationship with humanity did not die out. The discussion around the relationship with God and man continue today, and have been debated throughout all of Christian history. There have been many faithful Christians who have struggled with this doctrine, but for the biography of Athanasius the idea that Jesus was the God-man was absolutely critical.
The word of God who became man, not God the Father