“I don’t necessarily think he’s dumb” Ahem let me introduce this paraphrased excerpt: Po “I just found out that I’m adopted” Tigress: “your dad is a goose” Po “Yeah”
@@samuelbrock yeah I can’t remember that plot point very well but don’t tell me Po isn’t dumb. He’s definitely too self aware but I’d argue that he’s more B tier than C tier.
@Ciaran Gibbons the first time I heard the phrase, it was used to describe Ichiban Kasuga from Yakuza 7, who I'm sure would have made S tier if the ladies knew about the stupid glory that is the Yakuza series
"Hercules is smarter than most himbos." When Phil told him to use his head while fighting the centaur, he ran at him head first and drove his head into the centaurs stomach
I have some Epic Recommendations! Why? Why do i recommend stuff to strangers? Well, lets be honest... we live in a Quality-Hole named '2021' and Quality got real-rare, tbh. Sooooo, why not, i ask. Why not. Check out: -Starship Goldfish. -Cliffside. -Pokemon: Banette's Curse. -Raised by Zombies; Marathon. Have Fun, stranger.
Dont feel bad and dont feel sad about the Quality-Draught we're in. Instead, recommend each other the Best Stuff that is stuffy-around! Like Stuff! 'VICE' is informative. So is 'Hbomberguy'. 'Raised by Zombies' and 'Cliffside' are Fun as F-ck! And 'Starship Goldfish' is FUNNY BEYOND F-ING BELIEVE! TRUST ME! Duh!
@@AW-sx8hm Are you drunk or just rude? I mean, somehow, we need to explain your Rudeness towards total strangers. Its common knowledge at this point and in this year, that the one starting to insult is clearly the cringel0rd.
@@AW-sx8hm Are you drunk or just rude? I mean, somehow, we need to explain your Rudeness towards total strangers. Its common knowledge at this point and in this year, that the one starting to insult is clearly the cringel0rd.
@@AW-sx8hm You know what? I just block you now. Pity-block, because why would i try to 'explore' which issue you have? Mommy-issue, addiction-issue? I dont care! I am just a stranger who got rude-talked to, cringed at good old 'Vries' and then left and forgot him. Aye?
I would argue David is an S-Tier, just for the scene near the end when he watches a massive alien ship crash into the water, and Lilo asks him if he could give all of them a ride to shore *on his surfboard,* and while he is baffled, his answer is "... Sure! But I might have to take two trips..."
Plus on the respect women side, I'm pretty sure he isn't even dating Nani. Like, there's mutual affection, but she needs some space at the moment to take care of Lilo and he respects her enough to recognize those boundaries
@@electricangel4488 I'm not sure, but he does find her a job towards the end of the movie (when they run down the hill and then hijinks ensue with Jamba and Stitch and then the child services people show up).
I really think that the Himbo point of stupid needs to be reworked to simple. Kronk isn't really stupid, he learns quickly, and has a wide variety of skills and information ready at hand in his mind, but he's very simple and straightforward.
Usually for himbos I would say intelligence wise: - Himbos don't tend to understand more subtle or implied aspects of social interactions like sarcasm, deceit, euphemisms, or romantic feelings. A bookworm character can also have this but it tends to be more for lack of experience or that they are too logical to fully grasp them. - Himbos struggle immensly in to trick or lie to people because they are honest to a fault. Conversely Himbos tend to be easily tricked and can have a loose grasp on what's real and fictional. - Can be quick thinking in dire situations or when the moment present itself but it tends to be more physical rather than them coming up with a complex tactic or strategy. Usually if they have a plan it's strange and needlessly complex. - Usually can have specialized skills or be an expert in something but it tends to be goofy and unorthodox and usually played more for laughs that the character is actually an expert in something. Usually they struggle with simple tasks like reading, writing, facial and voice recognition, clothing themselves, etc.
I think of it in D&D terms where a typical himbo could potentially be very high in Intelligence, but low in Wisdom, meaning they don't read people's intentions as easy, can be more easily convinced of things, and can be naive or inexperienced. Someone with a high intelligence can be very skilled and knowledgeable about things, but you need a high wisdom score to combat other people's charisma, and that's what himbos lack. Hence, like, Scorpia taking so long to get over her feelings for Catra despite Catra not treating her particularly well, because she fails to read Catra's intentions correctly.
Find your favorite! 4:25 - Kronk (Emperor's New Groove); Some might call this boi the Ur-Himbo 9:12 - Kirishima (My Hero Academia); He just keeps Hardening 15:09 - Bolin (Legend of Korra); Fire Ferret, Movie Star, Lava Bender 18:55 - J̶e̶s̶u̶s̶ ̶C̶h̶r̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶(̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶B̶i̶b̶l̶e̶)̶;̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶U̶l̶t̶i̶m̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶H̶i̶m̶b̶o̶ 19:23 - James (Pokemon); Too Dumb to be Evil 22:40 - Thor (Marvel in General); Himbo Thor Best Thor 28:03 - John F. Kennedy (Clone High); Mostly There for the Memes 31:00 - Trevor Belmont (Castlevania); Indigo's "Hottest Animated Character of All Time" 36:04 - Sidon (Legend of Zelda); Beefy Fish Man 38:07 - Scorpia (She-Ra Reboot); Gives the Best Hugs (commenter's words, not theirs) 40:52 - Seahawk (She-Ra Reboot); Not the Best She-Ra Himbo, But Still Pure of Heart and Dumb of Ass 43:20 - David (Lilo & Stitch); When His Girl Needs Support, He is There for Her 47:08 - Launchpad McQuack (Duck Tales); Red Can't Think of a More Qualified Himbo 48:58 - Jason Mendoza (The Good Place); Does Not Have a Single Thought in His Head, Ever 52:18 - Hercules (Disney); Bless My Soul, Herc Was On a Roll 54:25 - Freddy Jones (Scooby-Doo); Reject Brave Leader, Return to Himbo 57:03 - Troy Bolton (High School Musical); Commenter Would've Picked Ryan, Sharpay's Brother. 1:01:44 - Alex Louis Armstrong (Fullmetal Alchemist); Rejected the Army When He Realized the War Crimes 1:06:22 - Richard O'Connell (The Mummy); Competent Combatant But Pure of Heart 1:09:00 - Gourry Gabriev (Slayers); Very No Thoughts Head Empty 1:12:59 - Galo (Promare); Big Himbo Energy, Not That Dumb 1:15:36 - Joey Wheeler (Yu-Gi-Oh!); BROOKLYN RAGE 1:20:35 - Goku (Dragon Ball); Poor Decision Maker 1:26:39 - Natsu Dragneel (Fairy Tail); Stopped Lots of Friend Self-Sacrifice, But Commenter Asks What About Elfman for FT Himbo? 1:30:15 - Sailor Jupiter (Sailor Moon); Straightforward, Most Himbo of the Sailor Scouts 1:33:22 - George (of the Jungle; B. Frasier); Dumb of Heart, Pure of Ass 1:35:19 - Brock (Pokemon); Frying Pan May Double as a Drying Pan, But He's Still Too Smart for True Himbo 1:37:11 - Zagreus (Hades Game); Occasionally Snarky, but Not Dumb 1:40:56 - Yamcha (Dragon Ball); Cheaters Never Himbo 1:44:14 - Soren (The Dragon Prince); Kind of a Dick, but He Got Better 1:49:49 - Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story); Less Himbo as Plot Progresses 1:53:23 - Sun Wukong (Actual Journey to the West); Ugly Scary Little Monkey Man 1:57:34 - Kristoff (Frozen); Looks the Part but Doesn't Play the Roll 1:59:03 - Knuckles the Echidna (Sonic); A-Tier in Sonic Boom, But More Grumpy in Early Versions 2:02:24 - Troy (Community); Former Jock Who Wants to Support His Friends 2:04:56 - Ricky Matsui (Dimension 20); Red's Platonic Himbo Ideal 2:06:59 - Grog Strongjaw (Critical Roll); Sweet but Not the Most Benevolent Because Barbarian 2:09:51 - Goofy (Disney); Commenter Shares the Common Opinion That Kingdom Hearts Goofy is minimum B-Tier 2:13:05 - Andy (Parks&Rec); Lacked Beefy Until He Became Star Lord 2:14:13 - Prince Edward (Enchanted); Actor Type-Casting Decides Himbo 2:16:51 - Fezzik (Princess Bride); Way Beefy, Just Dumb Enough, Kind 2:18:21 - Black*Star (Soul Eater); Too Dumb to Be Effected by Kishin Madness 2:20:32 - Detective Gumshoe (Ace Attorney); Wants to Do the Right Thing 2:22:53 - Kuwabara (YuYu Hakusho); Angrier Than the Average Himbo 2:25:54 - Soos (Gravity Falls); Non-Standard Himbo Further names were brought up by chat, but shot down. 2:32:52 - Po (Kung-Fu Panda); More Than What People Expect He Is 2:36:25 - FULL FINAL LIST
You know, "Dumb of Heart, Pure of Ass" is the perfect description for the Edgelord. It's funny how Indigo perfectly revealed what the inverse counterpart of the Himbo is by pure accident.
It’s really not. Edgelords are jerky badbois + tragic backstory TM. They don’t respect others, and most of their dumbness if it’s there vs being some sort of Incel Power Fantasy of “smarter than you lone wolf” is because they’re so ARROGANT. They are honestly Anti-Himbo
So, to that end, who’s in S tier for the Edgelord tier list? Who’s the archetypal Edgelord? And would I be inciting riots for suggesting BoJack Horseman be put on that list?
@@benwatson5236 Sasuke Uchiha from Naruto, Edmond Dantes from Fate/Grand Order and Season 1 Prince Zuko from Avatar TLA are the three S tier Edgelords that come to mind for me, personally. I don't watch Bojack so I don't really know if he qualifies or not but from what I've heard of the show Bojack sounds way too legitimately depressed to be an archetypical Edgelord since that kind of character is played moreso for drama whereas Bojack seems to be a more uncomfortably realistic take on cynicism than what Edgelords tend to represent. Like I said though, I'm not personally acquainted with the character so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Considering even Kronk has a skill (baking), I would argue himbos can have a special skill exception for when they are good at fighting but dumb at everything else
Bonus points if that skill is something stereotypically feminine such as baking or crafts that they are passionate and not even slightly embarrassed about
I'd even take it a step farther than that: a Himbo can be skilled (or at least competent) in as many things as you like, as long as "being smart" or some variation thereupon isn't one of them. To put it in D&D terms, they need STR 16+ and WIS as their dump stat, not INT (although really that shouldn't be above 12 or so either). Not necessarily stupid per se, but dumb - shortsighted, airheaded, easily distracted, prone to misinterpreting things, and so on.
Yes. Skill sets that are niche enough that it’s not *expected* to have that skill. Like for Kronk, baking, or talking to squirrels. Neither is a skill everyone is expected to have, and I’d say half the population has neither skill, but they’re niche enough to not be vital enough to disqualify them as dumb. Also I appreciate differentiating dumb and stupid.
@@HPetch to continue the dnd himbo build Str - 16+ Dex - 8? Con - 14-16 Int - 8-12 Wis - 6-10 Cha - 12-14 that a good himbo build?(totally not making this a character I play in the future)
I was surprised to see Sokka being mentioned so much in the chat. Sokka is not a himbo. First of all he is not beefy. Secondly, though he is goofy and sometimes clumsy, he is by no means dumb. He is the strategist of the group. He makes all the plans. He's quite smart actually. Not a himbo!
I would argue Sokka is an anti-himbo. He’s skinny, he’s sarcastic, he’s the team’s Smart Guy, he has a tendency to be obnoxious, and while he grows out of it he doesn’t start off respecting women (he tells Katara that she can’t do certain stuff because she’s a girl, and the Kyoshi Warriors have to beat his ass to teach him otherwise.)
He has himbo energy. He seems dumb most of the time, he absolutely learns to drink his respect woman juice, and he is reliable (not on physical strength, but as an strategist and with the sword). He's not a himbo, but he attracts himbo lovers.
@@Cibershadow2 Toph is too rude, confrontational, and insecure to be an archetypal himbo. I don't think you could ever really call her unequivocally kind; she's very much a jerk with a heart of gold.
Buzz Lightyear is a fluctuating himbo in the movies for sure. He's starts himbo-y in 1, but isn't at all in 2. In 3, he's not himbo-y until he gets reset and that must have really fucked with him cause by 4 he's got a IQ of 7.
I’m still iffy about him being a himbo at the start of the original. He comes out of the box with the memories of the character of Buzz Lightyear, so while it admittedly does take him a while to fully accept he’s a toy and all his memories aren’t his, it’s understandable. He’s supposed to be a galaxy traveling space marine. He wakes up and he’s in a strange environment with people trying to tell him things that go against his entire memory. I’ll give him a pass on that
I feel like a character comparison of Adora versus Scorpia is a fascinating contrast in the vague distinction between Herbo (Adora) versus Girl-Himbo (Scorpia).
1:37:43 zagreus is literally dating one of the furies, and its an ongoing character dynamic that they both understand that having to repeatedly kill each other is just something that comes with their respective jobs
I feel like the "beefy" quality of himbo is subjective-- I just need them to be "if they weren't such a nice person they'd be terrifying" like, under any other circumstance you'd be threatened by them, but they're such a sweetie that you would throw a punch to defend them before they'd ever bother. Like, they don't have to have the physicality outright, they just have to have the energy or potential to be a threat but seems to be actively choosing not to be.
James: I am a flaming Moltres! Jessie: Where did he get that outfit? Meowth: I think it came right out of his closet James (and Jessie) are the most queer coded characters can possibly be without being explicitly labeled as queer. James also might have a heart of gold, but the man's savage as absolute fuck. 90% of the time, dumbass, but every now and then, he'll roast someone (usually Jessie) like no other.
Captain Carrot from Discworld is the rare pseudohimbo, a strong, straightforward, kind guy who tries very very hard to make others think he's a moron in this essay I will-
Would you say that Detritus is a himbo then? I would argue that he is definitely strong and dumb, and I would argue that during the later books, especially as he protects and mentors Brick, he fulfills the kindness requirement. Now for the real question; would goblins consider Nobby Nobbs a himbo?
Casanoda from Ouran High School Host Club is the biggest himbo. He’s the heir of a mob, is known to have the meanest face, but he is also the nicest person ever and loves Haruhi. He literally nurses a baby bird to health and tears up when it flies away.
it needs to be dog-show-esque. like the generic author has them up on a raised platform/podium while red and indigo come over with clipboards and glasses
So I fell asleep while watching this late one night and it autoplayed into the detectives tier list, i woke up when they were talking about Dick Gumshoe and I was like "alright that's a good pick" and then I looked over at the actual list and I was like "Nancy Drew?!?!?"
On Himbo body form: IMO it's less about the form, and more about capability. A Himbo needs to be able to accomplish the physical tasks he is directed to. From lifting mountains to opening jars. Which is relative to his place in the story and those relying on him. Thus "beef" is relative. I would argue this can include mechanical assistance, such as a pickup truck, forklift, etc. As long as their operation of the aid is more instinctual than cerebral. They can use it, but asking them to explain or use it novel ways just gets "???" .
I want to introduce a Dark Himbo tier. They exhibit all the normal qualities of the usual Himbo, but have a drought of Respect Woman Juice or lack a good morality overall. If Kronk is the prototype of an S-tier Himbo, Gaston is the same for Dark Himbo, followed by Johnny Bravo.
Omg this is so needed!! I think this may be the true category that JFK from clone high belongs in and that is why they were having so much trouble with him
For posterity, here are some of the worst picks for thembos I saw in the chat: - BDG: This man's nickname is literally "the Polygon Twink", and he's created a cult, which isn't really the kindest thing to do - Anakin Skywalker: General rule of thumb, child murderers aren't fit for the "kindness" part of thembos. - Iroh : He's probably the character to take the least dumb decisions in the entire show - JoCrap (JoCat's comedic persona) : This guy has 4 Intelligence, but his defining characteristic is literally how mean and violent he is - Beauregard Lionett : 19 Intelligence, 18 Wisdom, and had a 10 minutes long rant to expose all of the Big Bads' plans - Joseph Joestar : Not only is he one of the craftiest and most cunning characters in the series, but he also cheated on his wife and bailed on the college student he slept with and left her a single mother - Percy Jackson: The boy isn't dumb, he just has ADHD, which is incredibly unfair to call him dumb for
I'm not sure how ADHD Percy is cus Rodian has it more as labels to fit the side-effects of being a demi-god. Leo however, is described as being "ADHD even for a demi-god" so I would put him more fitting the bill
Streaming Red's character arc is really neat, I love watching the character development. Originally, she'd make fun of Blue for messing up the stream, but, in her hubris, she never realized how difficult it was. With the foot on the other shoe, she's now realized that she, as with all other Greek heroes, has too much hubris. Hopefully she will be able to overcome it, and not pull a Heracles. Although, as far as I'm aware, she doesn't have a dangerously naive and insecure wife who's name is literally just "Red-Destroyer," nor has she killed a hydra recently. She better get cracking though, the long list of impossible and bizarre tasks given to her by some random Greek king won't finish themselves!
How is Obelix missing in this? Unconditionally good, chunky, simple minded, unrivaled in fights and he loves his little dog. Is Asterix just not so much of a thing overseas?
I would say that most people on North America’s experience with Asterix is that there was an animated movie that came out a few years ago. Maybe you saw it in French class if you’re Canadian.
I love how in the first mha movie Kirishima gets stuck in a crater because he forgot to turn his quirk off , that was the moment that made me go “yep thasa himbo”
regarding the himbo body type Convo from the 8 minute mark, himbos being beefy doesn't actually need to mean strong. They can be more Baymax shaped, a round dad-bod himbo. Still nice and both give excellent hugs
Here’s a question: Can a Himbo exist in a grounded, realistic tragedy? Cuz I have a hot take. John Coffey from Green Mile is a Himbo. He’s beefy, Michael Clark Duncan (RIP) was one of the biggest actors out there. He’s unequivocally, canonically, supernaturally pure of heart. Dumb… he’s uneducated. He was a black man in the 1930s American South. He may well have been intelligent and never got to develop it, but in the movie he’s a very simple soul. So, can you be a Himbo in a tragedy?
If so, I nominate Christian from Cyrano de Bergerac. Physically imposing (and by all accounts nice to look at)? Check. Genuinely nice guy? Check. Not always the sharpest rapier in the armory? BIG CHECK, although he's smarter than most give him credit for.
When Cyan said "We can go off on any tangents we want because Blue's not here" on 26:15, I just thought of Blue being Sokka in that situation I couldn't unsee it because of Sokka's love of sticking with the plans and making sure the team stays on track with their main goal. Avatar the Last Airbender will always have a place near and dear to my heart.
@@alexdavis665 I think Gorgug is too. Pure of heart (that date with the ice cream), dumb of ass (are you my dad), and strong of arm (barbarian). And really loves his friends and his parents. High class himbo.
Rocky from Rocky Horror Picture Show deserved to be on that list. The entire reason for which he was built was to be a himbo. The himbo version of Frankenstein's creature.
Like others have said, himbos can be incredibly skilled, especially in traditionally feminine or unorthodox skills that can be played for laughs. The main flaw of Kronk is that he’s both trusting to a fault, and comfortable being a follower. He always assumes everyone he knows is as good natured as him, which leads him to be easily manipulated. But when that manipulation comes in conflict with his morals, he chooses to be selfless every time, even if it negatively affects him.
i think the key to himbos with high plot-relevant skills is intention, i.e. if it's something that's so wired into them that they can exercise that skill with very little thought and consequently don't put any extra thought into it, that only adds to their himbo status
The thing with Yamcha and the whole cheating thing, in the original anime and Manga the only claim of this was from Future Trunks when he was first talking to Goku after he killed Frieza and Cold, but that was it. If you watched the series before this scene it makes absolutely no sense. Nothing is ever hinted that he ever cheated on Bulma ever. In fact throughout the original series and Z pre-cell arc, Bulma was constantly ogling at various men (even when she was still with Yamcha mind you) and was willing to trade Yamcha in for them, including General Blue a villain in the red ribbon army. And when she was ever mad at Yamcha it's just her overreacting to something or jumping into conclusions refusing to listen to anyone's argument including Yamcha’s. In story it could just be assumed Bulma just overreacted again when she sees Yamcha with a random woman and assumes he was cheating on her when he was not. And she passed down her interpretation of events to her son. And we only ever her about hers side of the story, we never ever hear Yamcha’s side of the story if anything Bulma says is even true or not. And out of universe, it was just plain retcon character assassination. Since Toriyama wanted her and Vegeta to get together, but if he just made Bulma fall in love and swing over with the man that indirectly had her boyfriend killed would make her look like an awful person, so to keep her look more sympathetic, Toriyama made Yamcha look worse by making him into a cheater allowing him to justify Bulma and Vegeta more. So yeah, Yamcha is not a cheater, Bulma is just a terrible person.
Honestly it is weird how Bulma could even fall in love with the person that massacred most of her friends. Granted, she fell in love with the guy who tried to rob her and kill her friends.
@@nathanielclaw2841 I mean, yeah. The only reason saiyans go blond when they turn super is because blonde hair is drawn as white in a black and white manga, so it saves ink. The reason Goku hardly ever used SS3 is because "it was a pain to draw all that hair", and the actual reason Goten and Trunks were born without tails was because he just forgot and also didn't feel like it.
@@nathanielclaw2841 Oh yeah, Launch! She sneezed between blonde angry gun toting American stereotype and black haired bimbo. And there's the full circle. Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
I think we are sleeping on upbeat despite being actually depressed Sidon. Like yes, relentlessly positive. But also, have you SEEN him look at Mipha's statue? Boy has issues
@@nerdyvids1 Considering how she died, how important she was, and how long ago it was, he's definitely got depression, or at least is still working through his grief -- a full century later.
@@sluttyMapleSyrup well considering that he is still young a full century later his people are probably of a long lived race and might just process grief differently
i'm about 2/3 through this and here's the characters i want to be added to the list (some are kinda unlikely): - Grog Strongjaw - Hagrid - Quincey from Dracula - Obelix - Scott from Teen Wolf - Gomez Addams
Holy shit, Obelix is totally a himbo : - Hella strong - Large physique - A bit simple-minded (though he's been depicted with having a philosophical side to him sometimes) - Very kind - Fell into "Respecc women" juice while he was a kid He's an antique himbo !
I made an entire twelve minute video essay on Proto Zoa from Zenon which basically makes the point that he is this. He isn't stupid, because he can play the guitar and he understands his role in relation to the general public (which is why his arc in Z3 is about dealing with his looming irrelevance). He's just a good-hearted, good-looking dude that wants to make music people want to listen to.
Exactly. It's my opinion that characters who are book smart can absolutely be himbo if they've got enough dumbass energy. You don't see that variant very often, but an excellent example is Herlock Sholmes from The Great Ace Attorney.
Im glad you brought up the body type thing! I often see beefy characters getting called himbos when theyre really not, but then the skinny actual himbos are overlooked and not referred to as himbos. I find this extremely discriminatory to our smaller sized himbos out there /j Fr tho i am happy you mentioned it Red 🙏
I think it's relative beefiness to the rest of the cast. Like if every character can't even open a jar, but then one character can, that character counts as "beefy." But if everyone can bench-press a mountain, that doesn't inherently make them beefy. Same goes for appearance. Some animation styles just have every male character shaped like a triangle, regardless of actual strength.
This was so much fun to watch! Some of my personal favorite himbos not on the list are: 1: Ken (Life in the Dreamhouse) this man is the kindest most supportive boyfriend, who is very skilled with technology, while also being dumb enough to install an evil button on Barbie’s closet, and get beaten by a literal 6 year old in poker. Easy S tier IMO 2: Adolin Kholin (The Stormlight archive) Okay, so I know he isn’t “Stupid” by any means, but he’s definitely less witty than the characters he’s around, and his solutions to problems are often straightforward like, “Just stab the bad guy with a big sword!” Kindness levels? Off the charts. He makes friends with everyone and is an amazing friend, husband, and brother. (That sounds like a gravestone dang it) He’s very strong also, that’s not even a question. I won’t keep rambling about Adolin, because I could do that all night, (he might be my favorite character *cough*) and I also don’t want to spoil anything in the series. I’d rate him as an A tier Himbo probably. 3: David (from the webtoon Space Boy) This isn’t as well known of a character/comic, but I’m very active in the Space Boy fandom so I had to mention a character from it. David is one of the main 5 characters, and he’s just a great guy. He’s the nice jock, which we always need more of in media. He’s very strong and always willing to help people, and he’s just generally doing his best. (Note: I’m also personally a bit biased toward him because my boyfriend voices him in the Space Boy Fandub here on TH-cam, and I’m very proud of him ☺️) Considering all that, I think I’d rate David an B tier himbo, simply because he’s not quite “head empty” enough Side note: highly recommend both Space Boy by Stephen McCranie on Webtoon, and the Space Boy Fandub on TH-cam if you’d rather watch than read. 💖 Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
I disagree about Adolin for a couple reasons. 1) He was not really drinking that respect women juice until a little ways into the books. 2) I think his blunt solutions are more out of ignorance or lack of interest than lack of intelligence. When it comes to dueling he's a certifiable genius and he defaults to that because he knows he can win. 3) I think he's a little too aggressive to be a traditional himbo. He's all about fighting at first and he was not shy about his views on how to deal with the 'Sadeas problem'. I'd personally say D if anything, but I do agree he's an amazing character.
45:15 god damn I guess I literally never experienced the innocent child version of Lilo and stitch because I'm adopted and was a foster child that whole movie was dark and real with the bubbles and the child protective services
@@cathorion8137 hes definitely got the friendly, pure heart, and simple minded part down, but hes not stupid or beefy. One of the greatest characters ever yes, one of the greatest himbos nahh
@@avipretekin5048 ehhh yeah, but i think i could argue stupid and beefy. Like you said, simple minded while not exactly stupid, he's definitely not the brightest. And not really beefy in the sense of super strong, more round. I guess by those guidelines though, most hobbits would count as himbos.
I think Fjord is the more himbo of the CR cast, I know he lacks the traditional beefiness but he still fills the role of of a frontline fighter, kinda lacks practical awareness with that 7 in wisdom. And as we all know, he CHUGS that respect women juice and is a confirmed friend of the lesbians.
@@eddiespeight8103 He does make some very intelligent in-battle plays tho. I’d argue that he could be considered a borderline ‘crouching moron, hidden badass’, and that the ‘moron’ part is the himbo side of him.
I came here to see if Alex Armstrong would be on here. I am very happy with where he is and why he's there. I don't know many people that know his character much beyond the 2004 anime where he was just a one off joke.
I feel like alex is one of the more true to life depictions of a himbo. A man who has flaws and has made serious mistakes yet has grown to become better and more aware of his actions outcomes
Kazuma Kiryu from Yakuza is prime, S-tier Himbo Strong: MC in a game series about chiseled men ripping their shirts off and fighting each other. Dumb: Clearly more 'street smart' than 'book smart' Kind: If he sees someone looking troubled in the streets, he will literally go out of his way to help them out no matter how far out of his league it might be. Ran an orphanage and never (in story) killed a person in his criminal career.
"Kiryu never killed anyone" after Yakuza 1, when he was at his most actual Yakuza like, just ask the waiter of the chinese restaurant he used as a human shield.
Ricky responding to an attempt to expose the darkness in his heart by _actively trying to help the person doing it_ because nothing was happening and his first instinct is "ah yes trouble, must help" Makes him S Tier on its own
"The first ever himbo who's also a war criminal" Me, an Animorphs fan: Jake? (To be fair the one who qualifies most by the end is Ax but book 1-10 Jake? Peak himbo)
I’d sooner call Rachel their Himbo, really. She’s both the tallest and typically uses the most physically imposing battle morphs like the Grizzly. She’s not the smartest of the group but fiercely loyal to her friends. What makes me really hesitate is her book with David who makes her realize that she actually secretly loves all the fighting and killing.
I'm really sad that I fell out of Animorphs around book 6-7. I did enjoy the books, but being in middle school at the time, had alot of other things do deal with and trouble keeping up with the books still coming out. Eventually I'd had enough of a gap I sort of just forgot to try to keep up.
@@JaelinBezel I disagree. Rachel is smart, she just picks over the top violence over strategy every single time, because she's naturally blood thirsty (The weird starfish separation arc explicitly points this out). Which kind of makes her the wrong type of pure of heart. Ax, on the other hand, is completely pure of heart and also simple AF. He may seem smart on the surface, but every single one of his books is about him refusing to question some status quo until it bites him on the ass. He's also naturally optimistic and respectful (barring his random status quo associated prejudices) and their second best combatant after Rachel.
Joey comes *this close* to drinking respect women juice several times, but it's a shame he always fails. However, he gets a lot of points for suffering the least from toxic masculinity compared to Ross and Chandler.
@@sinvector8020 yup yup. I really like repeptive funny shows that I can watch in the background but I can't because of the writing. It's funny for the time I guess (I wouldn't know, I wasn't born until after the 90s) but there's just soany jokes based on the fact that Ross's ex gay, I just couldn't keep going. It's not bad, and I'm not saying the shows terrible because eofbthose jokes, but even at the mention of her makes the laugh track go off. Like come on man. Because people talk different know and things are so much more normalized, at least for me, it just makes me roll my eyes. Well, that and very other joke regarding querr people. You don't see those people the way the characters do so it's different. Ross is one of theain character yet I don't give a shit about him. I really did care quite a bit about his ex and her new girlfriend but the only screentime was devoted to shitty jokes. It's lover, not girlfriend. Just saying that kind of demeans it as something less than a straight relationship. I don't know why I don't like it, but people who say lover usually are a lot older.
@@sinvector8020 Agreed. He's negative in the "respects women" points. Though I'm also not sure he's strong. The show never has him working out or anything.
Mr March! S tier gent who stops paladining - for a time - to keep his friend's vision alive and help those whp are struggling. Also Zac Oyama has perfected himbo performance. Spiritual son of Patrick Warburton.
Fjord is smart. It is just the thing that, whenever he sees a big red button, he has the obsessive compulsion to push that button to see what'll happen. Which we cannot entirely blame him for, since he is the product of Travis Willingham who himself must push any big red button as well.
Cut to the third time he travels on water and his ship is attacked by sea monsters looking for the key to unleasing a demi-god that he didnt bother to hide somewhere safe.
I'm so glad you brought up Hercules. For me, he is like Kronk, such a quintessential Himbo. I don't think his Protagonist position hinders him at all. He's over 6ft tall, super strong and always gets along (except for the one time him and Phil fight, but it's about a lady's honor and lacks all logic except blind loyalty so like...typical Himbo Loyalty 😂) I would argue he's at least B tier. He's not all static upstairs and he's not a default hero, but otherwise he's pretty quintessential himbo.
IMO, Indus Tarbella from Epithet Erased is the perfect himbo. He’s dumb, strong, super nice, respectful to women, the works. Plus, he’s super enthusiastic, and he loves dinosaurs. He’s S-Tier, or maybe A-Tier, if you wanna be really harsh.
I missed the part where they described Launchpad. *cries in corner* Edit: When I watched Lilo and Stitch as a kid, it made me feel for both Lilo and Nani about them being forcibly separated by the government. Dang, Child Services in the US is strict with child custody issues. Wish they could retrain the closest equivalent department here in the Philippines.
"makes the least stupid decisions" he raided heaven and got immortality x3 while eating all the peaches before the peach festival and got banned from heaven so hard he was placed under a mountain idk about that
He did become 3x immortal, though, and dropping a mountain on him was the _only_ way they could keep him from causing trouble at that point, so I'd say his seemingly stupid behavior worked out. Plus, that's only the first 5-7 out of 100 chapters; as soon as the rest of the main cast appears he starts hoarding the group's collective braincell.
“I don’t necessarily think he’s dumb”
Ahem let me introduce this paraphrased excerpt:
Po “I just found out that I’m adopted”
Tigress: “your dad is a goose”
Po “Yeah”
He had to be TOLD he was adopted
at 20
@@samuelbrock yeah I can’t remember that plot point very well but don’t tell me Po isn’t dumb. He’s definitely too self aware but I’d argue that he’s more B tier than C tier.
@@dontburstmybubble686 ohhhh yeah, definitely. Plus, he is VERY knowledgeable about kung fu history
@@samuelbrock basically he’s (edit: mid) tier himbo but an a tier geek is what you’re saying?
"That must be very hard for you"
"Pure of heart, and dumb of ass"
Indigo, you absolute poet
Also, Jesus Christ as the ultimate himbo is a take that is staying with me for significantly longer than expected
“Tumbler is right”-indigo
@Ciaran Gibbons she did come up with “dumb of heart, pure of ass” which is far better in my opinion.
Beef of cake
@Ciaran Gibbons the first time I heard the phrase, it was used to describe Ichiban Kasuga from Yakuza 7, who I'm sure would have made S tier if the ladies knew about the stupid glory that is the Yakuza series
"He is technically a war criminal, points docked for war crimes"
-Red, 2021
Timestamp is required
@@ApeX-pj4mq 1:03:18
niko belic himbo 😳?
Alex regrets and attempts to atone for his war crimes
He's no more villainous than Kronk.
"we don't body-shame here ... himbo is a state of mind" THIS is the profound discourse I came here for
And then like half of the characters they were like "he doesn't have a sufficiently himbo body", so that didn't last long
Uhm...
The "big" part of himbo is referring to a big personality IMO
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"Hercules is smarter than most himbos." When Phil told him to use his head while fighting the centaur, he ran at him head first and drove his head into the centaurs stomach
But did it work?
He was still smarter than Atlas...
I have some Epic Recommendations!
Why?
Why do i recommend stuff to strangers?
Well, lets be honest... we live in a Quality-Hole named '2021' and Quality got real-rare, tbh.
Sooooo, why not, i ask. Why not.
Check out:
-Starship Goldfish.
-Cliffside.
-Pokemon: Banette's Curse.
-Raised by Zombies; Marathon.
Have Fun, stranger.
Hey, it worked!
I mean. It's not a high bar
Honestly, Kronk should be in his own tier.
The Ur-Himbo
Damn right he should, username irrelevant
He pulled the wrong lever, but he pulled our hearts.
Arch-u-type spelled appropriately
K tier the K stands for Kronk
"The first ever himbo who is also war criminal".
Clearly then, he is a crimbo.
Dont feel bad and dont feel sad about the Quality-Draught
we're in.
Instead, recommend each other the Best Stuff
that is stuffy-around! Like Stuff!
'VICE' is informative. So is 'Hbomberguy'.
'Raised by Zombies' and 'Cliffside' are Fun as F-ck!
And 'Starship Goldfish' is FUNNY BEYOND F-ING BELIEVE! TRUST ME!
Duh!
@@loturzelrestaurant are you a bot or just high?
@@AW-sx8hm Are you drunk or just rude?
I mean, somehow, we need to explain your Rudeness towards total strangers.
Its common knowledge at this point and in this year, that the one starting to insult is clearly the cringel0rd.
@@AW-sx8hm Are you drunk or just rude?
I mean, somehow, we need to explain your Rudeness towards total strangers.
Its common knowledge at this point and in this year, that the one starting to insult is clearly the cringel0rd.
@@AW-sx8hm You know what?
I just block you now. Pity-block, because why would i try to 'explore' which issue you have?
Mommy-issue, addiction-issue? I dont care! I am just a stranger who got rude-talked to, cringed at good old 'Vries' and then left and forgot him. Aye?
I would argue David is an S-Tier, just for the scene near the end when he watches a massive alien ship crash into the water, and Lilo asks him if he could give all of them a ride to shore *on his surfboard,* and while he is baffled, his answer is "... Sure! But I might have to take two trips..."
Plus on the respect women side, I'm pretty sure he isn't even dating Nani. Like, there's mutual affection, but she needs some space at the moment to take care of Lilo and he respects her enough to recognize those boundaries
Doesnt he offer to loan her money because of the situation?
@@electricangel4488 I'm not sure, but he does find her a job towards the end of the movie (when they run down the hill and then hijinks ensue with Jamba and Stitch and then the child services people show up).
@@electricangel4488 just a job. Then when she jumps on it for an interview, he half jokes that she could date him in return.
David is a great Himbo
@@Grim_Sister david is great.
"Pure of heart, dumb of ass" should be a Trope Talk
also we need a "dumb of heart, Pure of Ass"
I agree
I really think that the Himbo point of stupid needs to be reworked to simple. Kronk isn't really stupid, he learns quickly, and has a wide variety of skills and information ready at hand in his mind, but he's very simple and straightforward.
This is an excellent point. For me it’s more about the energy than their actual intelligence, so I’d never thought of it like that
Especially considering Indigo essentially had to say for half the list "he's smarter than most of the list".
Usually for himbos I would say intelligence wise:
- Himbos don't tend to understand more subtle or implied aspects of social interactions like sarcasm, deceit, euphemisms, or romantic feelings. A bookworm character can also have this but it tends to be more for lack of experience or that they are too logical to fully grasp them.
- Himbos struggle immensly in to trick or lie to people because they are honest to a fault. Conversely Himbos tend to be easily tricked and can have a loose grasp on what's real and fictional.
- Can be quick thinking in dire situations or when the moment present itself but it tends to be more physical rather than them coming up with a complex tactic or strategy. Usually if they have a plan it's strange and needlessly complex.
- Usually can have specialized skills or be an expert in something but it tends to be goofy and unorthodox and usually played more for laughs that the character is actually an expert in something. Usually they struggle with simple tasks like reading, writing, facial and voice recognition, clothing themselves, etc.
Hmm, yes, yes, I agree with this rework, makes things clearer
I think of it in D&D terms where a typical himbo could potentially be very high in Intelligence, but low in Wisdom, meaning they don't read people's intentions as easy, can be more easily convinced of things, and can be naive or inexperienced. Someone with a high intelligence can be very skilled and knowledgeable about things, but you need a high wisdom score to combat other people's charisma, and that's what himbos lack. Hence, like, Scorpia taking so long to get over her feelings for Catra despite Catra not treating her particularly well, because she fails to read Catra's intentions correctly.
“Hot man drink beer and use whip”
We’re slowly piecing together the enigma that is Indigo
It's at 32:05 for any future people who want to know
Find your favorite!
4:25 - Kronk (Emperor's New Groove); Some might call this boi the Ur-Himbo
9:12 - Kirishima (My Hero Academia); He just keeps Hardening
15:09 - Bolin (Legend of Korra); Fire Ferret, Movie Star, Lava Bender
18:55 - J̶e̶s̶u̶s̶ ̶C̶h̶r̶i̶s̶t̶ ̶(̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶B̶i̶b̶l̶e̶)̶;̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶U̶l̶t̶i̶m̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶H̶i̶m̶b̶o̶
19:23 - James (Pokemon); Too Dumb to be Evil
22:40 - Thor (Marvel in General); Himbo Thor Best Thor
28:03 - John F. Kennedy (Clone High); Mostly There for the Memes
31:00 - Trevor Belmont (Castlevania); Indigo's "Hottest Animated Character of All Time"
36:04 - Sidon (Legend of Zelda); Beefy Fish Man
38:07 - Scorpia (She-Ra Reboot); Gives the Best Hugs (commenter's words, not theirs)
40:52 - Seahawk (She-Ra Reboot); Not the Best She-Ra Himbo, But Still Pure of Heart and Dumb of Ass
43:20 - David (Lilo & Stitch); When His Girl Needs Support, He is There for Her
47:08 - Launchpad McQuack (Duck Tales); Red Can't Think of a More Qualified Himbo
48:58 - Jason Mendoza (The Good Place); Does Not Have a Single Thought in His Head, Ever
52:18 - Hercules (Disney); Bless My Soul, Herc Was On a Roll
54:25 - Freddy Jones (Scooby-Doo); Reject Brave Leader, Return to Himbo
57:03 - Troy Bolton (High School Musical); Commenter Would've Picked Ryan, Sharpay's Brother.
1:01:44 - Alex Louis Armstrong (Fullmetal Alchemist); Rejected the Army When He Realized the War Crimes
1:06:22 - Richard O'Connell (The Mummy); Competent Combatant But Pure of Heart
1:09:00 - Gourry Gabriev (Slayers); Very No Thoughts Head Empty
1:12:59 - Galo (Promare); Big Himbo Energy, Not That Dumb
1:15:36 - Joey Wheeler (Yu-Gi-Oh!); BROOKLYN RAGE
1:20:35 - Goku (Dragon Ball); Poor Decision Maker
1:26:39 - Natsu Dragneel (Fairy Tail); Stopped Lots of Friend Self-Sacrifice, But Commenter Asks What About Elfman for FT Himbo?
1:30:15 - Sailor Jupiter (Sailor Moon); Straightforward, Most Himbo of the Sailor Scouts
1:33:22 - George (of the Jungle; B. Frasier); Dumb of Heart, Pure of Ass
1:35:19 - Brock (Pokemon); Frying Pan May Double as a Drying Pan, But He's Still Too Smart for True Himbo
1:37:11 - Zagreus (Hades Game); Occasionally Snarky, but Not Dumb
1:40:56 - Yamcha (Dragon Ball); Cheaters Never Himbo
1:44:14 - Soren (The Dragon Prince); Kind of a Dick, but He Got Better
1:49:49 - Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story); Less Himbo as Plot Progresses
1:53:23 - Sun Wukong (Actual Journey to the West); Ugly Scary Little Monkey Man
1:57:34 - Kristoff (Frozen); Looks the Part but Doesn't Play the Roll
1:59:03 - Knuckles the Echidna (Sonic); A-Tier in Sonic Boom, But More Grumpy in Early Versions
2:02:24 - Troy (Community); Former Jock Who Wants to Support His Friends
2:04:56 - Ricky Matsui (Dimension 20); Red's Platonic Himbo Ideal
2:06:59 - Grog Strongjaw (Critical Roll); Sweet but Not the Most Benevolent Because Barbarian
2:09:51 - Goofy (Disney); Commenter Shares the Common Opinion That Kingdom Hearts Goofy is minimum B-Tier
2:13:05 - Andy (Parks&Rec); Lacked Beefy Until He Became Star Lord
2:14:13 - Prince Edward (Enchanted); Actor Type-Casting Decides Himbo
2:16:51 - Fezzik (Princess Bride); Way Beefy, Just Dumb Enough, Kind
2:18:21 - Black*Star (Soul Eater); Too Dumb to Be Effected by Kishin Madness
2:20:32 - Detective Gumshoe (Ace Attorney); Wants to Do the Right Thing
2:22:53 - Kuwabara (YuYu Hakusho); Angrier Than the Average Himbo
2:25:54 - Soos (Gravity Falls); Non-Standard Himbo
Further names were brought up by chat, but shot down.
2:32:52 - Po (Kung-Fu Panda); More Than What People Expect He Is
2:36:25 - FULL FINAL LIST
Ok but bless you for this. You're now the best himbo
May both sides of your pillow be cold🙏🙏
The true himbo was the friends we made along the way.
Hehehe
@@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 hehehehe
@@eliasstenman3710 hehehehehehe
It's just Hasan
I love you. Thank you. You’re valid.
"Himbos often epitomize the moral compass of the show they're in"
That's a really good take
You know, "Dumb of Heart, Pure of Ass" is the perfect description for the Edgelord.
It's funny how Indigo perfectly revealed what the inverse counterpart of the Himbo is by pure accident.
What a revelation
It’s really not. Edgelords are jerky badbois + tragic backstory TM. They don’t respect others, and most of their dumbness if it’s there vs being some sort of Incel Power Fantasy of “smarter than you lone wolf” is because they’re so ARROGANT. They are honestly Anti-Himbo
@@anonymousfellow8879 that...that's why I call them the "inverse" of the himbo though. I'm saying that they are opposites in personality.
So, to that end, who’s in S tier for the Edgelord tier list? Who’s the archetypal Edgelord?
And would I be inciting riots for suggesting BoJack Horseman be put on that list?
@@benwatson5236 Sasuke Uchiha from Naruto, Edmond Dantes from Fate/Grand Order and Season 1 Prince Zuko from Avatar TLA are the three S tier Edgelords that come to mind for me, personally.
I don't watch Bojack so I don't really know if he qualifies or not but from what I've heard of the show Bojack sounds way too legitimately depressed to be an archetypical Edgelord since that kind of character is played moreso for drama whereas Bojack seems to be a more uncomfortably realistic take on cynicism than what Edgelords tend to represent. Like I said though, I'm not personally acquainted with the character so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
Considering even Kronk has a skill (baking), I would argue himbos can have a special skill exception for when they are good at fighting but dumb at everything else
Bonus points if that skill is something stereotypically feminine such as baking or crafts that they are passionate and not even slightly embarrassed about
I'd even take it a step farther than that: a Himbo can be skilled (or at least competent) in as many things as you like, as long as "being smart" or some variation thereupon isn't one of them. To put it in D&D terms, they need STR 16+ and WIS as their dump stat, not INT (although really that shouldn't be above 12 or so either). Not necessarily stupid per se, but dumb - shortsighted, airheaded, easily distracted, prone to misinterpreting things, and so on.
@@HPetch Considering Kronk can also talk to squirrels (and other wildlife), this fits.
Yes. Skill sets that are niche enough that it’s not *expected* to have that skill.
Like for Kronk, baking, or talking to squirrels. Neither is a skill everyone is expected to have, and I’d say half the population has neither skill, but they’re niche enough to not be vital enough to disqualify them as dumb.
Also I appreciate differentiating dumb and stupid.
@@HPetch to continue the dnd himbo build
Str - 16+
Dex - 8?
Con - 14-16
Int - 8-12
Wis - 6-10
Cha - 12-14
that a good himbo build?(totally not making this a character I play in the future)
I was surprised to see Sokka being mentioned so much in the chat. Sokka is not a himbo. First of all he is not beefy. Secondly, though he is goofy and sometimes clumsy, he is by no means dumb. He is the strategist of the group. He makes all the plans. He's quite smart actually. Not a himbo!
I would argue Sokka is an anti-himbo. He’s skinny, he’s sarcastic, he’s the team’s Smart Guy, he has a tendency to be obnoxious, and while he grows out of it he doesn’t start off respecting women (he tells Katara that she can’t do certain stuff because she’s a girl, and the Kyoshi Warriors have to beat his ass to teach him otherwise.)
@@gregjayonnaise8314 good point. Sokka is totally an anti-himbo
I think a great she-himbo (herbo?) Would be Toph. She is shown to be very straightforward and consistently a powerhouse. Loyal to a fault, too.
He has himbo energy. He seems dumb most of the time, he absolutely learns to drink his respect woman juice, and he is reliable (not on physical strength, but as an strategist and with the sword). He's not a himbo, but he attracts himbo lovers.
@@Cibershadow2 Toph is too rude, confrontational, and insecure to be an archetypal himbo. I don't think you could ever really call her unequivocally kind; she's very much a jerk with a heart of gold.
Buzz Lightyear is a fluctuating himbo in the movies for sure. He's starts himbo-y in 1, but isn't at all in 2. In 3, he's not himbo-y until he gets reset and that must have really fucked with him cause by 4 he's got a IQ of 7.
The noise I made was not normal 😂
I’m still iffy about him being a himbo at the start of the original. He comes out of the box with the memories of the character of Buzz Lightyear, so while it admittedly does take him a while to fully accept he’s a toy and all his memories aren’t his, it’s understandable. He’s supposed to be a galaxy traveling space marine. He wakes up and he’s in a strange environment with people trying to tell him things that go against his entire memory. I’ll give him a pass on that
"A Himbo must be a friend of the lesbians."
Scorpia: "OOH, OOH, I AM THE LESBIANS!"
Mean catra: you can't be your own friend
Scorpia: ... did you just make yourself sad for a moment?
Catra: raaaaaaaaaaaaah
I feel like a character comparison of Adora versus Scorpia is a fascinating contrast in the vague distinction between Herbo (Adora) versus Girl-Himbo (Scorpia).
@@jessielefey I feel like there is a word for that, but I like 'herbo'
@@rixaxeno7167 yeah the words “bimbo” but herbo is better
@@acwalter2838 Herbo does exist and is distinct from Bimbo, as Bimbo implies an "oversexualization" of the character as well.
1:37:43 zagreus is literally dating one of the furies, and its an ongoing character dynamic that they both understand that having to repeatedly kill each other is just something that comes with their respective jobs
Also the whole thing with Dusa
I feel like the "beefy" quality of himbo is subjective-- I just need them to be "if they weren't such a nice person they'd be terrifying" like, under any other circumstance you'd be threatened by them, but they're such a sweetie that you would throw a punch to defend them before they'd ever bother.
Like, they don't have to have the physicality outright, they just have to have the energy or potential to be a threat but seems to be actively choosing not to be.
I fully agreed with this concept of the himbo. It’s like how they mention that when Joey gets brainwashed he becomes a genuine threat
@Inés Lázaro De la Garza nah he’s much too wise and intelligent
@Inés Lázaro De la Garza I kinda think of his goofy side as a kind of “crouching moron hidden badass” deal
@@CaptianTwug same with Scorpia
So..... Aaargh.
How is everyone ignoring “I saw a hot man drink beer and use whips and I was like yep”
Because that's just another day ending in y for the internet.
I definitely noticed that one...
That's a MOOD. (especially since he's voiced by Richard Armitage
That was my EXACT reaction to his introduction idk why he's so attractive
@@fairycat23 I mean you aren’t wrong we all feel the same
James: I am a flaming Moltres!
Jessie: Where did he get that outfit?
Meowth: I think it came right out of his closet
James (and Jessie) are the most queer coded characters can possibly be without being explicitly labeled as queer. James also might have a heart of gold, but the man's savage as absolute fuck. 90% of the time, dumbass, but every now and then, he'll roast someone (usually Jessie) like no other.
God, HARD fucking agree
are you even a real fan? jessie told meowth it came from his closet!
"I've always found rods and reels and tackle to be quite alluring." :)
There's a reason why he's dressed out a flaming Moltres
Not to mention almost every time they go into disguise Jesse dresses as a man and James dresses as a female.
Indigo: PULL THE LEVER
Red: *overwrites kronk*
Indigo: WRONG LEVEERRR
Captain Carrot from Discworld is the rare pseudohimbo, a strong, straightforward, kind guy who tries very very hard to make others think he's a moron in this essay I will-
Would you say that Detritus is a himbo then? I would argue that he is definitely strong and dumb, and I would argue that during the later books, especially as he protects and mentors Brick, he fulfills the kindness requirement.
Now for the real question; would goblins consider Nobby Nobbs a himbo?
@@annajensen7360 it’s a million-to-one chance
@@509Gman My god, that has to succeed
@@thespanishinquisition1343 Nine times out of ten.
"Carrot often struck people as simple. And he was.
Where people went wrong was thinking that simple meant the same thing as stupid."
Scorpia and Adora: *two top himbos fighting over their cat girl*
Indeed, yes. S tier lesbian himbos right here
HIMBO ADORA YES
That would make korra a bi himbo. Bimbo if you will
@@nyetloki
Symbiote noise: GET OUT! TAKE YOUR STUFF! GET OUUUUUUUT!
Casanoda from Ouran High School Host Club is the biggest himbo. He’s the heir of a mob, is known to have the meanest face, but he is also the nicest person ever and loves Haruhi. He literally nurses a baby bird to health and tears up when it flies away.
Indeed
His subordinates love him so much 💗
Isn’t he also an undisputed master of martial arts and when he gets angry starts throwing grown men around like rag dolls?
@@lokiorin5520 Based on my Ouran knowledge, I think you referring to Mitsukuni Haninzuka (also known as Honey-Senpai).
Casanoda is wonderful
Who else thinks an OSP Animated of this stream would be hilarious?
How does this only have 1 like this is a brilliant idea
I’d specifically want the Trevor Belmont section animated
I need the Alex Armstrong redraw with all the sparkles and roses
I just want a sardines-esque coral of all the himbos from the end all looking somewhat confused 😅
it needs to be dog-show-esque. like the generic author has them up on a raised platform/podium while red and indigo come over with clipboards and glasses
David SAVED stitch from drowning. He earned that s rank
Yes! David is S-tier Himbo! He's so sweet and kind and supportive!
Lilo & Stitch hits so much harder when you re-watch it as a 20-something or up and realize Nani was just 19
"Finally catered to the Australian Audience" and I fucking missed it
I saw the notif while at dnd
Not really. I was in the middle of work 😭
I think Goku might be less "the Shounen hero to end all Shounen heroes" and more "the Shounen hero to *start* all Shounen heroes"
I argue he's lost some narrative relevance with the advent of the overly babyfaced soft boy Shounen kids. At least when it comes to normie shows.
@@jouheikisaragi6075 yeah, but even then he has a part in it because the soft boys are basically gohan
Or in this case, the shounen himbo to start all shounen himbos.
@@jouheikisaragi6075 I mean Goku started as a literal child....
That said, Kenshiro is the shonen hero to start all shonen heroes.
@@jouheikisaragi6075 Baby-faced soft boys have been the shounen stars since the genre’s birth.
So I fell asleep while watching this late one night and it autoplayed into the detectives tier list, i woke up when they were talking about Dick Gumshoe and I was like "alright that's a good pick" and then I looked over at the actual list and I was like "Nancy Drew?!?!?"
On Himbo body form: IMO it's less about the form, and more about capability. A Himbo needs to be able to accomplish the physical tasks he is directed to. From lifting mountains to opening jars. Which is relative to his place in the story and those relying on him. Thus "beef" is relative.
I would argue this can include mechanical assistance, such as a pickup truck, forklift, etc. As long as their operation of the aid is more instinctual than cerebral. They can use it, but asking them to explain or use it novel ways just gets "???" .
Yeah, it’s less about beefyness and more about raw strength.
"Thus, 'beef' is relative" has got to be the funniest thing I've seen today
@@gregjayonnaise8314 Less about either, and more about just being a dumb slave. lol
I want to introduce a Dark Himbo tier. They exhibit all the normal qualities of the usual Himbo, but have a drought of Respect Woman Juice or lack a good morality overall.
If Kronk is the prototype of an S-tier Himbo, Gaston is the same for Dark Himbo, followed by Johnny Bravo.
Omg this is so needed!! I think this may be the true category that JFK from clone high belongs in and that is why they were having so much trouble with him
Yesss. Definitely pushy, believes everyone should love him, and still with the dorito bod and simplicity.
it’s called a jock
So Jocks
Jocks are mysoginistic pricks? English is my 2nd langague, I thought they were just interested in sports as opposed to, say, nerds.
For posterity, here are some of the worst picks for thembos I saw in the chat:
- BDG: This man's nickname is literally "the Polygon Twink", and he's created a cult, which isn't really the kindest thing to do
- Anakin Skywalker: General rule of thumb, child murderers aren't fit for the "kindness" part of thembos.
- Iroh : He's probably the character to take the least dumb decisions in the entire show
- JoCrap (JoCat's comedic persona) : This guy has 4 Intelligence, but his defining characteristic is literally how mean and violent he is
- Beauregard Lionett : 19 Intelligence, 18 Wisdom, and had a 10 minutes long rant to expose all of the Big Bads' plans
- Joseph Joestar : Not only is he one of the craftiest and most cunning characters in the series, but he also cheated on his wife and bailed on the college student he slept with and left her a single mother
- Percy Jackson: The boy isn't dumb, he just has ADHD, which is incredibly unfair to call him dumb for
Beau the disaster lesbian is a himbo? what?
Yeah poulneuff is a himbo, joseph is way too smart and wise and cunning. Hell ceasar is a better himbo.
I'm not sure how ADHD Percy is cus Rodian has it more as labels to fit the side-effects of being a demi-god.
Leo however, is described as being "ADHD even for a demi-god" so I would put him more fitting the bill
Also, having ADHD doesn't mean you can't be either super smart or charge your problems with your fist
Wait, what do you mean BDG started a cult? Like, a real one? I can't find anything about it online.
Streaming Red's character arc is really neat, I love watching the character development. Originally, she'd make fun of Blue for messing up the stream, but, in her hubris, she never realized how difficult it was.
With the foot on the other shoe, she's now realized that she, as with all other Greek heroes, has too much hubris. Hopefully she will be able to overcome it, and not pull a Heracles. Although, as far as I'm aware, she doesn't have a dangerously naive and insecure wife who's name is literally just "Red-Destroyer," nor has she killed a hydra recently.
She better get cracking though, the long list of impossible and bizarre tasks given to her by some random Greek king won't finish themselves!
I feel like instead of "himbo-y" they should have used "himbolic"
Himbosity
A brilliant display of himbolism
All of these are fucking amazing
Himbo, shebo, he she it, webo.
Himbocism
How is Obelix missing in this? Unconditionally good, chunky, simple minded, unrivaled in fights and he loves his little dog.
Is Asterix just not so much of a thing overseas?
I would say that most people on North America’s experience with Asterix is that there was an animated movie that came out a few years ago. Maybe you saw it in French class if you’re Canadian.
Idk, I’m American and I loved reading those comics as a kid but now that I think about it I maybe met only one other kid who was also into them
I'm not sure Obelix passes the respecting women criterium though, unless the kettle was filled with 'respecting women juice' all along.
They’re available in English at a lot of Canadian libraries, and in French at a lot of French schools in Canada.
@@maglorian why wouldnt he?
Goofy cannot be a himbo, he is legitimately a genius, just clumsy and gangly
I love how in the first mha movie Kirishima gets stuck in a crater because he forgot to turn his quirk off , that was the moment that made me go “yep thasa himbo”
I couldn't help but hear that last bit in the voice of Christoph Waltz's character in Inglorious Basterds X D
A very memorable scene from that movie. He is a good dumb bean.
regarding the himbo body type Convo from the 8 minute mark, himbos being beefy doesn't actually need to mean strong. They can be more Baymax shaped, a round dad-bod himbo. Still nice and both give excellent hugs
Here’s a question: Can a Himbo exist in a grounded, realistic tragedy? Cuz I have a hot take. John Coffey from Green Mile is a Himbo. He’s beefy, Michael Clark Duncan (RIP) was one of the biggest actors out there. He’s unequivocally, canonically, supernaturally pure of heart. Dumb… he’s uneducated. He was a black man in the 1930s American South. He may well have been intelligent and never got to develop it, but in the movie he’s a very simple soul. So, can you be a Himbo in a tragedy?
If so, I nominate Christian from Cyrano de Bergerac. Physically imposing (and by all accounts nice to look at)? Check. Genuinely nice guy? Check. Not always the sharpest rapier in the armory? BIG CHECK, although he's smarter than most give him credit for.
I'm inclined to agree with Coffey as S tier
I'm not 100% sure... if we do though, then yes I agree, and I would also like to nominate Lennie from Of Mice And Men.
The answer is "Dwayne The Rock Johnson". Reality's true himbo.
@@ooffordays566 Nope Lennie did a murder. That should disqualify.
When Cyan said "We can go off on any tangents we want because Blue's not here" on 26:15, I just thought of Blue being Sokka in that situation I couldn't unsee it because of Sokka's love of sticking with the plans and making sure the team stays on track with their main goal. Avatar the Last Airbender will always have a place near and dear to my heart.
I never though I’d be getting a degree in himbology from osp community college
"He's not topologically similar to Kronk" I can't wait for another tier list.
I’m very glad that the perfect RPG himbo, Ricky Matsui, was included in this.
Ricky is an S+ himbo but what about Gorgug?
@@alexdavis665 I think Gorgug is too. Pure of heart (that date with the ice cream), dumb of ass (are you my dad), and strong of arm (barbarian). And really loves his friends and his parents. High class himbo.
Rocky from Rocky Horror Picture Show deserved to be on that list. The entire reason for which he was built was to be a himbo. The himbo version of Frankenstein's creature.
With James, it’s weird cus he has KICKED a tentacruel like a soccer ball… the mans got all his beef in his legs from chasing that pikachu
Like others have said, himbos can be incredibly skilled, especially in traditionally feminine or unorthodox skills that can be played for laughs. The main flaw of Kronk is that he’s both trusting to a fault, and comfortable being a follower. He always assumes everyone he knows is as good natured as him, which leads him to be easily manipulated. But when that manipulation comes in conflict with his morals, he chooses to be selfless every time, even if it negatively affects him.
i think the key to himbos with high plot-relevant skills is intention, i.e. if it's something that's so wired into them that they can exercise that skill with very little thought and consequently don't put any extra thought into it, that only adds to their himbo status
The thing with Yamcha and the whole cheating thing, in the original anime and Manga the only claim of this was from Future Trunks when he was first talking to Goku after he killed Frieza and Cold, but that was it.
If you watched the series before this scene it makes absolutely no sense. Nothing is ever hinted that he ever cheated on Bulma ever. In fact throughout the original series and Z pre-cell arc, Bulma was constantly ogling at various men (even when she was still with Yamcha mind you) and was willing to trade Yamcha in for them, including General Blue a villain in the red ribbon army. And when she was ever mad at Yamcha it's just her overreacting to something or jumping into conclusions refusing to listen to anyone's argument including Yamcha’s.
In story it could just be assumed Bulma just overreacted again when she sees Yamcha with a random woman and assumes he was cheating on her when he was not. And she passed down her interpretation of events to her son. And we only ever her about hers side of the story, we never ever hear Yamcha’s side of the story if anything Bulma says is even true or not.
And out of universe, it was just plain retcon character assassination. Since Toriyama wanted her and Vegeta to get together, but if he just made Bulma fall in love and swing over with the man that indirectly had her boyfriend killed would make her look like an awful person, so to keep her look more sympathetic, Toriyama made Yamcha look worse by making him into a cheater allowing him to justify Bulma and Vegeta more.
So yeah, Yamcha is not a cheater, Bulma is just a terrible person.
Honestly it is weird how Bulma could even fall in love with the person that massacred most of her friends.
Granted, she fell in love with the guy who tried to rob her and kill her friends.
Broke: Yamcha cheated.
Woke: bulma is a bad person.
Godhood: Toriyama was shit at writting romance
@@nathanielclaw2841 I mean, yeah. The only reason saiyans go blond when they turn super is because blonde hair is drawn as white in a black and white manga, so it saves ink. The reason Goku hardly ever used SS3 is because "it was a pain to draw all that hair", and the actual reason Goten and Trunks were born without tails was because he just forgot and also didn't feel like it.
@@Dinomatrix21 also, i think there is a woman caracter he also forgot existed. Was in a bar drinking and was never seen again
@@nathanielclaw2841 Oh yeah, Launch! She sneezed between blonde angry gun toting American stereotype and black haired bimbo. And there's the full circle. Oh yeah, it's all coming together.
Nani kicked Stitch when he dragged Lilo down. David dove in to save him.
Yup, David is low key A or S tier.
I think we are sleeping on upbeat despite being actually depressed Sidon. Like yes, relentlessly positive. But also, have you SEEN him look at Mipha's statue? Boy has issues
Being sad over the death of a sibling doesn't automatically mean someone is depressed.
@@nerdyvids1 No, but it can, and on top of that there's a lot more at play in this specific case
@@nerdyvids1 Considering how she died, how important she was, and how long ago it was, he's definitely got depression, or at least is still working through his grief -- a full century later.
@@nikki607 Interesting. Care to elaborate? I love learning new little things from BOTW
@@sluttyMapleSyrup well considering that he is still young a full century later his people are probably of a long lived race and might just process grief differently
Indigo being able to do a perfect WatchMojo voice means she's grown too powerful
i'm about 2/3 through this and here's the characters i want to be added to the list (some are kinda unlikely):
- Grog Strongjaw
- Hagrid
- Quincey from Dracula
- Obelix
- Scott from Teen Wolf
- Gomez Addams
SCOTT FROM TEAM WOLF A TIER HIMBO
Fjord and Beau would fit in too
Gomez isn't dumb
How about Jamie McCrimmon from Doctor Who?
Holy shit, Obelix is totally a himbo :
- Hella strong
- Large physique
- A bit simple-minded (though he's been depicted with having a philosophical side to him sometimes)
- Very kind
- Fell into "Respecc women" juice while he was a kid
He's an antique himbo !
Himbos are my favourite character type! In my opinion, they don't have to be dumb dumb. I like them to be ... guileless.
This
I made an entire twelve minute video essay on Proto Zoa from Zenon which basically makes the point that he is this. He isn't stupid, because he can play the guitar and he understands his role in relation to the general public (which is why his arc in Z3 is about dealing with his looming irrelevance). He's just a good-hearted, good-looking dude that wants to make music people want to listen to.
Exactly. It's my opinion that characters who are book smart can absolutely be himbo if they've got enough dumbass energy. You don't see that variant very often, but an excellent example is Herlock Sholmes from The Great Ace Attorney.
Im glad you brought up the body type thing! I often see beefy characters getting called himbos when theyre really not, but then the skinny actual himbos are overlooked and not referred to as himbos. I find this extremely discriminatory to our smaller sized himbos out there /j
Fr tho i am happy you mentioned it Red 🙏
I couldve sworn i left a comment underneath. Did it get deleted? :
I think it's relative beefiness to the rest of the cast. Like if every character can't even open a jar, but then one character can, that character counts as "beefy." But if everyone can bench-press a mountain, that doesn't inherently make them beefy.
Same goes for appearance. Some animation styles just have every male character shaped like a triangle, regardless of actual strength.
Gods, this was a welcome surprise, but also, it's 3:21 holly shit, the name of this format should defintely be osp after bedtime
Papyrus in Undertale raises the question of how *actually* beefy does one have to be to be an S-tier himbo because he is 5/5 on every other category.
He isn't dump though. Naive sure but nowhere near dumb.
Just watched Free Guy. Guy is Top Tier Protagonist Himbo energy, and manages to carry a character arc while also retaining his base Himbo energy
Oh my god I never even thought about this Yugioh rival triangle… but you’re absolutely right. I need to lie down.
Many series have a love triangle. Yu-gi-oh decided to take that dynamic a different route, and it works.
the fact that Goofy's Kingdom Hearts version isn't considered is a travesty, he's at least B tier
other than that, good stream
All i'm going to say: 40's cartoons.
He was not as nice in those
you underestimate the fact that goofy in kingdom hearts is the smartest of the 3 main characters
@@MatthewCSnow he was mean back in the 40s, especially behind the wheel of a car stuck in traffic
@@yes7281 it's not that Goofy isn't a himbo, but more so that Sora and Donald are even more of a himbo
He does not have the build of a himbo unfortunately.
I'm pretty sure Yoda doesn't tick a single box on the Himbo test.
women he respects i believe
I thought Anakin was worried about Obi-Wan's life
He could not even test that it was Padmes
I think that makes him prime dumbass material
As an artist I had a field day with that statement. A cursed field day.
@@kindafrenchbaguette6998 Oh god oh no
@@captainfiri7619 oh god yes
I cannot describe the joy I felt when my sweet sweet Kirishima was the second himbo mentioned. I love that sweetheart 💕
When is OSP going to sell the plushies of themselves that are on the armchair in the video. They could make bank
Indigo finally has her own chibi!!
Won't it be sweet if Cyan ever get a chibi, hers is positioned in a way that if Blue's chibi is also there then they're holding hands or something
I feel like I missed something important. Who is Indigo?
@@Kroododile553 she is OSP's editor. She mostly appears in the podcasts so if you aren't following it you won't have known her
@@k.t.4613 fair enough. Thank you for the info
This was so much fun to watch! Some of my personal favorite himbos not on the list are:
1: Ken (Life in the Dreamhouse) this man is the kindest most supportive boyfriend, who is very skilled with technology, while also being dumb enough to install an evil button on Barbie’s closet, and get beaten by a literal 6 year old in poker. Easy S tier IMO
2: Adolin Kholin (The Stormlight archive)
Okay, so I know he isn’t “Stupid” by any means, but he’s definitely less witty than the characters he’s around, and his solutions to problems are often straightforward like, “Just stab the bad guy with a big sword!”
Kindness levels? Off the charts. He makes friends with everyone and is an amazing friend, husband, and brother. (That sounds like a gravestone dang it) He’s very strong also, that’s not even a question. I won’t keep rambling about Adolin, because I could do that all night, (he might be my favorite character *cough*) and I also don’t want to spoil anything in the series. I’d rate him as an A tier Himbo probably.
3: David (from the webtoon Space Boy) This isn’t as well known of a character/comic, but I’m very active in the Space Boy fandom so I had to mention a character from it. David is one of the main 5 characters, and he’s just a great guy. He’s the nice jock, which we always need more of in media. He’s very strong and always willing to help people, and he’s just generally doing his best. (Note: I’m also personally a bit biased toward him because my boyfriend voices him in the Space Boy Fandub here on TH-cam, and I’m very proud of him ☺️)
Considering all that, I think I’d rate David an B tier himbo, simply because he’s not quite “head empty” enough
Side note: highly recommend both Space Boy by Stephen McCranie on Webtoon, and the Space Boy Fandub on TH-cam if you’d rather watch than read. 💖
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
Yeah! Space Boy for the win! Frankly, I never viewed David as a Himbo. He's very thoughtful, in a kindhearted and a introspective way
I disagree about Adolin for a couple reasons. 1) He was not really drinking that respect women juice until a little ways into the books. 2) I think his blunt solutions are more out of ignorance or lack of interest than lack of intelligence. When it comes to dueling he's a certifiable genius and he defaults to that because he knows he can win. 3) I think he's a little too aggressive to be a traditional himbo. He's all about fighting at first and he was not shy about his views on how to deal with the 'Sadeas problem'.
I'd personally say D if anything, but I do agree he's an amazing character.
Ken's a shout! Sadly few woukd know him. That online show was too good for it's source material
45:15 god damn I guess I literally never experienced the innocent child version of Lilo and stitch because I'm adopted and was a foster child that whole movie was dark and real with the bubbles and the child protective services
Sam Gamgee is peak himbo and i won't hear a word against him
Are you his bodyguard?
No… I’m his Garderner.
@@JaelinBezel Exactly! Also, "I'm going to Mordor alone"
"Of course you are, and I'm going with you!"
@@cathorion8137 hes definitely got the friendly, pure heart, and simple minded part down, but hes not stupid or beefy. One of the greatest characters ever yes, one of the greatest himbos nahh
@@avipretekin5048 ehhh yeah, but i think i could argue stupid and beefy. Like you said, simple minded while not exactly stupid, he's definitely not the brightest. And not really beefy in the sense of super strong, more round. I guess by those guidelines though, most hobbits would count as himbos.
"I have the morningstar in my back pocket, but i shall fell Dracula with my fists!" Big Dumb Stupid Himbo
I loved this stream format, hope y’all keep doing it
Red and Indigo time?
Red and Indigo time. Sorry I missed it live, but this should be real fun.
Trevor: S-tier husbando, C-tier himbo because too smart
Kronk was to be expected but to see Launchpad make S-tier also fills my heart with joy.=
Okay, I'd argue early Sun Wu Kong is *far* too malicious to ever qualify as a himbo
I am ludicrously happy to see Grog on this list, even though he's not a great himbo.
Edit: thanks guys and gals, that’s the most likes I’ve ever had.
I think that Grog has some Himbo qualitys but it's more that Travis Willingham is a himbo and it bleeds into all his characters
@@aspenculbertson3938 I can see that. Although I think Travis is less of a himbo and more really excited about mischief and comedy.
I think Fjord is the more himbo of the CR cast, I know he lacks the traditional beefiness but he still fills the role of of a frontline fighter, kinda lacks practical awareness with that 7 in wisdom.
And as we all know, he CHUGS that respect women juice and is a confirmed friend of the lesbians.
@@eddiespeight8103 all true.
@@eddiespeight8103 He does make some very intelligent in-battle plays tho. I’d argue that he could be considered a borderline ‘crouching moron, hidden badass’, and that the ‘moron’ part is the himbo side of him.
I came here to see if Alex Armstrong would be on here.
I am very happy with where he is and why he's there. I don't know many people that know his character much beyond the 2004 anime where he was just a one off joke.
2004 is such a tragedy, since Armstrong is easily one of the best characters of the whole series
I feel like alex is one of the more true to life depictions of a himbo. A man who has flaws and has made serious mistakes yet has grown to become better and more aware of his actions outcomes
Ah exactly what I needed today, a himbo tier list
If there isnt a himbo troupe talk after this I'll be disappointed
Don't know if they mentioned it but I love how Buzz was flat out called a himbo in the Star Command cartoon.
Kazuma Kiryu from Yakuza is prime, S-tier Himbo
Strong: MC in a game series about chiseled men ripping their shirts off and fighting each other.
Dumb: Clearly more 'street smart' than 'book smart'
Kind: If he sees someone looking troubled in the streets, he will literally go out of his way to help them out no matter how far out of his league it might be. Ran an orphanage and never (in story) killed a person in his criminal career.
"Kiryu never killed anyone" after Yakuza 1, when he was at his most actual Yakuza like, just ask the waiter of the chinese restaurant he used as a human shield.
He's actually pretty smart though
Similarly, Ichiban Kasuga
@MegaProudAlbanian and he gets out unscated most of the time because it would be easier to pierce a tank than kiryu
Himbos are my favourite archetype. Then herbos which ARE different to bimbos which are also neat.
bimbo= dumb and hot
herbo= dumb, beefy and nice
I like that Ricky rolls with like a secret arcane order but he's just like a himbo firefighter who happens to be the chosen one.
Ricky responding to an attempt to expose the darkness in his heart by _actively trying to help the person doing it_ because nothing was happening and his first instinct is "ah yes trouble, must help" Makes him S Tier on its own
"The first ever himbo who's also a war criminal"
Me, an Animorphs fan: Jake?
(To be fair the one who qualifies most by the end is Ax but book 1-10 Jake? Peak himbo)
I’d sooner call Rachel their Himbo, really. She’s both the tallest and typically uses the most physically imposing battle morphs like the Grizzly. She’s not the smartest of the group but fiercely loyal to her friends. What makes me really hesitate is her book with David who makes her realize that she actually secretly loves all the fighting and killing.
@Guillermina @Cody Hines I see you’re both intellectuals.👀
I'm really sad that I fell out of Animorphs around book 6-7. I did enjoy the books, but being in middle school at the time, had alot of other things do deal with and trouble keeping up with the books still coming out. Eventually I'd had enough of a gap I sort of just forgot to try to keep up.
@@JaelinBezel I disagree. Rachel is smart, she just picks over the top violence over strategy every single time, because she's naturally blood thirsty (The weird starfish separation arc explicitly points this out). Which kind of makes her the wrong type of pure of heart.
Ax, on the other hand, is completely pure of heart and also simple AF. He may seem smart on the surface, but every single one of his books is about him refusing to question some status quo until it bites him on the ass. He's also naturally optimistic and respectful (barring his random status quo associated prejudices) and their second best combatant after Rachel.
Speaking of Joey, can we appreciate how when he’s brainwashed for the umpteenth time, freaking Tristan’s first response is “Seriously? Again?” 🤣
Joey Triibiani from Friends is a good himbo, but I'd put him at D Tier for the 90s writing
Joey comes *this close* to drinking respect women juice several times, but it's a shame he always fails. However, he gets a lot of points for suffering the least from toxic masculinity compared to Ross and Chandler.
@@sinvector8020 yup yup. I really like repeptive funny shows that I can watch in the background but I can't because of the writing. It's funny for the time I guess (I wouldn't know, I wasn't born until after the 90s) but there's just soany jokes based on the fact that Ross's ex gay, I just couldn't keep going. It's not bad, and I'm not saying the shows terrible because eofbthose jokes, but even at the mention of her makes the laugh track go off. Like come on man.
Because people talk different know and things are so much more normalized, at least for me, it just makes me roll my eyes. Well, that and very other joke regarding querr people. You don't see those people the way the characters do so it's different. Ross is one of theain character yet I don't give a shit about him. I really did care quite a bit about his ex and her new girlfriend but the only screentime was devoted to shitty jokes.
It's lover, not girlfriend. Just saying that kind of demeans it as something less than a straight relationship. I don't know why I don't like it, but people who say lover usually are a lot older.
@@sinvector8020 Agreed. He's negative in the "respects women" points. Though I'm also not sure he's strong. The show never has him working out or anything.
Ricky Matsui truly is the pinnacle himbo
Mr March!
Mr March! S tier gent who stops paladining - for a time - to keep his friend's vision alive and help those whp are struggling.
Also Zac Oyama has perfected himbo performance. Spiritual son of Patrick Warburton.
fjord is smart - cut to that time he and caleb nearly sunk their ship in an unknown blood ritual at the bottom of the sea
Fjord is smart. It is just the thing that, whenever he sees a big red button, he has the obsessive compulsion to push that button to see what'll happen.
Which we cannot entirely blame him for, since he is the product of Travis Willingham who himself must push any big red button as well.
Cut to the third time he travels on water and his ship is attacked by sea monsters looking for the key to unleasing a demi-god that he didnt bother to hide somewhere safe.
"James is not topologically similar to Kronk" is one of the many, many reasons I love this channel.
I'm so glad you brought up Hercules. For me, he is like Kronk, such a quintessential Himbo. I don't think his Protagonist position hinders him at all. He's over 6ft tall, super strong and always gets along (except for the one time him and Phil fight, but it's about a lady's honor and lacks all logic except blind loyalty so like...typical Himbo Loyalty 😂)
I would argue he's at least B tier. He's not all static upstairs and he's not a default hero, but otherwise he's pretty quintessential himbo.
IMO, Indus Tarbella from Epithet Erased is the perfect himbo. He’s dumb, strong, super nice, respectful to women, the works. Plus, he’s super enthusiastic, and he loves dinosaurs. He’s S-Tier, or maybe A-Tier, if you wanna be really harsh.
I missed the part where they described Launchpad. *cries in corner*
Edit: When I watched Lilo and Stitch as a kid, it made me feel for both Lilo and Nani about them being forcibly separated by the government. Dang, Child Services in the US is strict with child custody issues. Wish they could retrain the closest equivalent department here in the Philippines.
Red shouldve named the source for kronk "himbo prime"
Agreed, though I'd tie Kronk with George of the Jungle.
I loved this whole discussion lmao. can we have more of these tier lists? Maybe one for lancers? There's a lot of those.
I feel like Swift Wind has pretty strong Himbo energy, but as a horse, he can't really match the body type.
I have no idea what Himbo is but the pure joy and excitement of you folks is making this a great listen
EDIT: now I know what it is
"makes the least stupid decisions" he raided heaven and got immortality x3 while eating all the peaches before the peach festival and got banned from heaven so hard he was placed under a mountain idk about that
He did become 3x immortal, though, and dropping a mountain on him was the _only_ way they could keep him from causing trouble at that point, so I'd say his seemingly stupid behavior worked out.
Plus, that's only the first 5-7 out of 100 chapters; as soon as the rest of the main cast appears he starts hoarding the group's collective braincell.
I have never felt so bad about having a good sleep schedule.
2:19:25 This has "my intelligence is so low I'm immune to Synaptic Static" vibes, for all the DnD players out there.
Permanent mind blank spell
@@dorca9308 Imagine being immune to having your thoughts read because you have no thoughts.
No thoughts, head empty
@@illoney5663 this is a common theory about bella swan
Couple days late, but now that I work night I will 100% be here for them. Y'all are lovely and amazing and I love yous