Who knows, maybe when they reset the timeline so that spock lived, maybe they did something inadvertantly that set in motion Sarek to adopt Michael. This would explain why we never saw her in TOS.
@@Bartman954 Sybok was not Amandas son, so it's not a break in canon that the computer doesn't mention him. In fact, because of Syboks "crazy" ideas Sarek omitted his fatherhood to the public
"Yesteryear" is one of the best episodes of Animated Star Trek. It's also when we see Spock's pet sehlat I'Chaya, first mentioned on "Journey to Babel."
The best TAS episode. I saw its broadcast premiere...yes, I date myself...but picture some college-age Trekkers on a Saturday morning sitting quietly after having watched a cartoon show...
@@johnwang9914 ...as doubtless compared to today's the worst that culture did was stink. No, we just wanted to see how good a cartoon version could be even with Roddenberry's name attached. This one at least was that good. I'll commend Marc Cushman's book on Star Trek in the early 70s to show how much effort and quite possibly love went into TAS.
@@johnfraraccio99 You do realize my comment was a prod at the original poster saying to imagine a college student after watching Saturday morning cartoons, not a critique on past versus current cultures or even the quality of the animation and stories versus modern equivalents. Perhaps you should have that chip on your shoulder checked out.
I always enjoyed Thelin's parting words to Spock, realiizing if they fixed the past, he wouldn't exist....though different, both races respected the bonds of family.
I think that shifty-eyed new first officer went back in time and killed Spock when Spock was 7 so he could be first officer of the Enterprise in the future. He just looks guilty.
No. Commander Thelin had nothing to do with it. The shifty eyes were supposed to be a character is thinking, not plotting. The problem here in "Yesteryear" is a Time Paradox, like Futurama sending Fry to the future so he could go back to 1947 and become his own grandfather.
It's like the Phineas & Ferb episode where Candace is the only one who remembers her brothers when they end up in that gray dimension with shorts, tigers, spoons and oranges.
This scene raises a continuity problem. In CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER Spock tells Kirk, "Look at the speed at which the centuries are passing, Captain. To step through on the precise date that we wish...: Kirk them asks, Guardian, can you change the speed of which yesterday passes?" It responds, "I was made to offer the past in this manner, I cannot change." However In YESTERYEAR, Spock is able to not only request a specific place to visit but also an exact time. Either this Guardian is a different one or the 1st one received an upgrade.
As a boy in the 90s preoccupied with what I considered respectable Star Trek and farce, I assumed TAS would fall into the latter. Having seen it for the first time thanks to TH-cam and CBS, I am glad to be proven wrong. I think of it as an animator's storyboard polished into a DVD extra. I hope TH-cam makes TAS available to purchase.
That guy on the screen seems quite upset or sorry. Maybe because he was asked to do geneological research which determined Spock's fate, but still led with the fact that he wasn't enrolled in Starfleet.
I had a problem with this episode. It was my understanding that no one on the Planet is effected by the changes to the time line yet McCoy doesn't recognize Spock upon his return to the present? I can understand the crew on the Enterprise not knowing, but not McCoy. The next question I have is that it would be nice to know what happens to Commander Thaylin the Andorian First Officer, what's his story once the time line has been restored?
It's everyone that had not traveled back in time to Orion's past that did not remember Spock but this is inconsistent with the TOS episode where this time gate was discovered where no one on the planet was affected when McCoy changed the past. Of course, the animated series actually makes more sense. I'm surprised Star Fleet would even let Spock, Kirk and especially McCoy go back to the planet after what McCoy inadvertently did to the timeline. Indeed, I would've expected quarantine buoys, automated planetary defense grid and a separately powered forcefield around the gate entombed in several hundred feet of concrete wrapped by graphene, then the nearby crust fractured to bury the entire area with volcanic rock.
Thaylin's timeline with a dead Spock continues. He, unfortunately, commits suicide after being ostracised from his society when it is revealed that he is part Aenar and through other machinations he is condemned as the most hated being in the Galaxy.
The animated series was started in 1973 because it was obvious there Star Trek was still popular 4 years after it was cancelled. They used most of the same top characters including Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty. Similar themes too. My question is this. Why did they not just restart the regular series?
Funny. The only way that would happen is if it happens in a universe that borders both in a Star Trek Universe and a DC Comics universe. This would explain all those universe that have both Marvel and DC comics characters and so on with other franchises, but this would mean different multiverses are bumping or slightly melding into one another. Of course, these stories are just companies that wanted to make more money that way. They are amusing stories, though. Funny thing, Superman and DC comics do exist in Star Trek as Trip Tucker mentions Superman to Malcolm Reed in an episode in Season 1 of Star Trek Enterprise.
I was introduced to this from a friend on Facebook. Odd, I do not recall this animated series at all! I do recall the tv series, the one not animated, and in it I remember Kirk saying " beam me up Scotty". Yes, this is Mandela effect all over the place! Another wierd observation, this happened while in Orion, Orion! Isn't this where we supposedly are now? No longer in Sagittarius?
I'm hoping they will have a special 50 year anniversary edition next year. Hard to fathom that TAS debuted on Saturday morning 8 September 1973, exactly 7 years to the day after TOS's debut.
Spoilers: Spock died as a kid because they have to do a test to wander the desert, but he didn't make it. His future self is canonical to the timeline of travelling back and saving his own life.
Wow! This is straight Mandela Effect stuff right here!! This is not syfy this is reality.. The past does and has changed and continue to change.. Look up Mandela Effect
Not in the records. Remember, when Spock told Kirk that Sybok is his brother, Kirk opposed him on the grounds that he KNOWS Spock doesn't have any brother to which Spock relents that yes, he doesn't... because he has half-brother.
Honestly one of the few scenes we see andorian who's actually in star fleet yes he look suspicious as heck he's an andorian even if you find a seen andorian on screen male andorians they naturally look suspicious even if they don't mean it for all we know this is he I'm worrying face like yes this isn't right you wouldn't act like this unless you're right captain .... I feel bad for thaylin he just shows up and then he's gone we don't know anymore about him besides beta canon little bit information on him I kinda wish we got to see Spock look up thaylin in his private quarters or simply spock get the kirk on the side and let's the captain know what happened to thaylin as for a just making sure lose ends are handle but nope we don't even get that until the 90's before any information happens about him and it's bearly gives him information about him I think? I can bearly renumber it sadly
I watched that fan film.also. Kirk commanded the USS Farragut , the Enterprise was destroyed while Pike was in command. And Kirk had a Klingon first officer. The Guardian of forever was involved in the plot. Was a good story.
Easily the best episode of TAS. Back before Spock had any pesky half- or step- siblings.
Who knows, maybe when they reset the timeline so that spock lived, maybe they did something inadvertantly that set in motion Sarek to adopt Michael. This would explain why we never saw her in TOS.
@@veggiet2009 Good theory
It is a great episode but my favorite is The Slaver Weapon.
@@veggiet2009 nor Sybok
@@Bartman954 Sybok was not Amandas son, so it's not a break in canon that the computer doesn't mention him. In fact, because of Syboks "crazy" ideas Sarek omitted his fatherhood to the public
"Yesteryear" is one of the best episodes of Animated Star Trek. It's also when we see Spock's pet sehlat I'Chaya, first mentioned on "Journey to Babel."
jeff clark it was a teddy bear.
@@SnowDaulphin With six inch fangs.
The best TAS episode. I saw its broadcast premiere...yes, I date myself...but picture some college-age Trekkers on a Saturday morning sitting quietly after having watched a cartoon show...
😁
Very clever story telling and an advanced treat for Saturday morning kids and their parents.
Must've blown your mind in the 70's University drug culture.
@@johnwang9914 ...as doubtless compared to today's the worst that culture did was stink. No, we just wanted to see how good a cartoon version could be even with Roddenberry's name attached. This one at least was that good. I'll commend Marc Cushman's book on Star Trek in the early 70s to show how much effort and quite possibly love went into TAS.
@@johnfraraccio99 You do realize my comment was a prod at the original poster saying to imagine a college student after watching Saturday morning cartoons, not a critique on past versus current cultures or even the quality of the animation and stories versus modern equivalents. Perhaps you should have that chip on your shoulder checked out.
The animated Trek series was great. It filled a deep need among fans for more Trek content.
Now no one even remembers Spock?
What has JJ Abrams done?!
Spock who? He's dead, Jim!
An Andorian science officer? This definitely is an alternate timeline.
Why? Andoria was one of the Four Founding Members of the Federation.
I always enjoyed Thelin's parting words to Spock, realiizing if they fixed the past, he wouldn't exist....though different, both races respected the bonds of family.
Actually, this is the true timeline.
Clever animated series with good writing. I never watched the animated series....
I think that shifty-eyed new first officer went back in time and killed Spock when Spock was 7 so he could be first officer of the Enterprise in the future. He just looks guilty.
No. Commander Thelin had nothing to do with it. The shifty eyes were supposed to be a character is thinking, not plotting.
The problem here in "Yesteryear" is a Time Paradox, like Futurama sending Fry to the future so he could go back to 1947 and become his own grandfather.
The look on Thaylen's Face at the end...."Yes, my plan is fool proof."
Thelin showed up in a couple of novels later. Only Kirk and Spock had any recollection of him but he had odd feelings that he knew both of them.
Dammit CBS! Don't leave me hanging like this! Where's the rest of this episode?!
It's damn it, Jim !
It's on Paramount+, along with the other 21 episodes.
It's like the Phineas & Ferb episode where Candace is the only one who remembers her brothers when they end up in that gray dimension with shorts, tigers, spoons and oranges.
This was a great episode. Well-written, too.
This scene raises a continuity problem. In CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER Spock tells Kirk, "Look at the speed at which the centuries are passing, Captain. To step through on the precise date that we wish...:
Kirk them asks, Guardian, can you change the speed of which yesterday passes?"
It responds, "I was made to offer the past in this manner, I cannot change."
However In YESTERYEAR, Spock is able to not only request a specific place to visit but also an exact time. Either this Guardian is a different one or the 1st one received an upgrade.
Guardian 2.0?
The Guardian upgraded from Vista to XP
Another problem: For adult Spock to exist, he had die at age 7, then go back again to save himself.
As a boy in the 90s preoccupied with what I considered respectable Star Trek and farce, I assumed TAS would fall into the latter. Having seen it for the first time thanks to TH-cam and CBS, I am glad to be proven wrong. I think of it as an animator's storyboard polished into a DVD extra. I hope TH-cam makes TAS available to purchase.
All the animated episodes should be live action remade. You could call it Star Trek: Reanimated
It's an interesting idea in a period of time where ideas are scarce. I can't recall off the top of my head the last good star trek tv series
@@PJxBuchwild Or remaster them, Star Trek: Remastered
that redshirt went back in time with Kirk and Spock. How come he doesn't remember who Spock is?
Karl Urban at 1:42, looks like his version of Bones anyway =P
they changed the past
2:11 Senator Jeff Flake likeness
o jezus to jest totalnie mój syn, on ma to samo ubranie.
That guy on the screen seems quite upset or sorry. Maybe because he was asked to do geneological research which determined Spock's fate, but still led with the fact that he wasn't enrolled in Starfleet.
I had a problem with this episode. It was my understanding that no one on the Planet is effected by the changes to the time line yet McCoy doesn't recognize Spock upon his return to the present? I can understand the crew on the Enterprise not knowing, but not McCoy. The next question I have is that it would be nice to know what happens to Commander Thaylin the Andorian First Officer, what's his story once the time line has been restored?
It's everyone that had not traveled back in time to Orion's past that did not remember Spock but this is inconsistent with the TOS episode where this time gate was discovered where no one on the planet was affected when McCoy changed the past. Of course, the animated series actually makes more sense. I'm surprised Star Fleet would even let Spock, Kirk and especially McCoy go back to the planet after what McCoy inadvertently did to the timeline. Indeed, I would've expected quarantine buoys, automated planetary defense grid and a separately powered forcefield around the gate entombed in several hundred feet of concrete wrapped by graphene, then the nearby crust fractured to bury the entire area with volcanic rock.
Thaylin's timeline with a dead Spock continues. He, unfortunately, commits suicide after being ostracised from his society when it is revealed that he is part Aenar and through other machinations he is condemned as the most hated being in the Galaxy.
He no longer exists.
Top 10 time travel anime
The animated series was started in 1973 because it was obvious there Star Trek was still popular 4 years after it was cancelled. They used most of the same top characters including Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty. Similar themes too.
My question is this. Why did they not just restart the regular series?
Because this was cheaper and easier to do sf.
Waymint! Amanda Grayson, descendant of Dick Grayson a.k.a Robin? Could Spock be a descendant of Robin? Just being goofy here.
Funny.
The only way that would happen is if it happens in a universe that borders both in a Star Trek Universe and a DC Comics universe.
This would explain all those universe that have both Marvel and DC comics characters and so on with other franchises, but this would mean different multiverses are bumping or slightly melding into one another.
Of course, these stories are just companies that wanted to make more money that way. They are amusing stories, though.
Funny thing, Superman and DC comics do exist in Star Trek as Trip Tucker mentions Superman to Malcolm Reed in an episode in Season 1 of Star Trek Enterprise.
Oh what I would give to have the voice tracks only. : )
Idole
I was introduced to this from a friend on Facebook.
Odd, I do not recall this animated series at all!
I do recall the tv series, the one not animated, and in it I remember Kirk saying " beam me up Scotty".
Yes, this is Mandela effect all over the place!
Another wierd observation, this happened while in Orion, Orion! Isn't this where we supposedly are now?
No longer in Sagittarius?
Not surprising since it went off the air most likely before you were born.
Everyone except Kirk suffered amnesia! LOL!!!!
Not really. In their timeline, Spock had never existed as a Starfleet officer. They couldn't forget what had never happened.
I thought if you were on that planet time changes didn't effect you.
Any chance these are on a DVD? Video?
They are on DVD. Released in 2006. You can find them at Amazon and on eBay.
I'm hoping they will have a special 50 year anniversary edition next year. Hard to fathom that TAS debuted on Saturday morning 8 September 1973, exactly 7 years to the day after TOS's debut.
"Fraid I dont, Jim."
... Big Bird?
3:06 those shifty eyes! I think he did it!
0:07....did she say "C-3PO??!!"
so in the alternate future, Spock died at age 7? what the hell happened? o.o
Cheetos poisoning. They are deadly to Vulcans.
Spoilers:
Spock died as a kid because they have to do a test to wander the desert, but he didn't make it. His future self is canonical to the timeline of travelling back and saving his own life.
When seeing this episode, I assumed the Andorian had something to do with it.
Yeah cause in the original series of star Trek an Andorian had a fight with Captain Kirk and was almost killed from it
those shifty eyes were meant to suggest just that
@@brittanyhonaker8739That was actually an Orion disguised as an Andorian as Spock figured out near the end of the episode.
They forgot that Andorians are supposed to be blue. Just like they forgot that Klingons don't wear purple.
The director, Hal Sutherland, was color blind. He often had trouble telling the difference between gray and pink.
If the past was altered, how would we know it ? Time travel paradoxes make it illogical.
That means the son was spok.
Wow! This is straight Mandela Effect stuff right here!! This is not syfy this is reality.. The past does and has changed and continue to change.. Look up Mandela Effect
Um andoriano? Esta série era muito legal!
When you mess with Time, it tends to mess back.
What about Sybok...?
Not in the records. Remember, when Spock told Kirk that Sybok is his brother, Kirk opposed him on the grounds that he KNOWS Spock doesn't have any brother to which Spock relents that yes, he doesn't... because he has half-brother.
Sybok wasn't invented yet.
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5 years. And not promoted?????
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Honestly one of the few scenes we see andorian who's actually in star fleet yes he look suspicious as heck he's an andorian even if you find a seen andorian on screen male andorians they naturally look suspicious even if they don't mean it for all we know this is he I'm worrying face like yes this isn't right you wouldn't act like this unless you're right captain .... I feel bad for thaylin he just shows up and then he's gone we don't know anymore about him besides beta canon little bit information on him I kinda wish we got to see Spock look up thaylin in his private quarters or simply spock get the kirk on the side and let's the captain know what happened to thaylin as for a just making sure lose ends are handle but nope we don't even get that until the 90's before any information happens about him and it's bearly gives him information about him I think? I can bearly renumber it sadly
Now erase Michael Burnham. Please!
I think I watched a time ago, a star trek fan film, m with a similar story
I watched that fan film.also. Kirk commanded the USS Farragut , the Enterprise was destroyed while Pike was in command. And Kirk had a Klingon first officer. The Guardian of forever was involved in the plot. Was a good story.
First
If only we could get ST with great effects today, without the WOKEness.
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