Not enough Dinty Moore in the world to finish this little beauty. $250k will get you $150K worth of boat. Of course maybe Mads at Sail Life might want to jump on this little gem...
BTW, Thank you Captain Q and Ran-Day for the video! I was also happy to hear you mention my lost aunt. Aunt Polly Esther. She was never the same after she went to sea.
I don’t remember seeing a review quite like this on Captain Qs channel. Though I found the pairs humor quite entertaining I still can appreciate that they still respect what they were inspecting . Having been in AARP territory for some years now I’m not quite sure I would want to invest the time in this boat bringing her back but still feel it has the “ bones” to be brought back to a fine sailing vessel. With the entire below deck being opened it gives the owner a opportunity to install and restore the vessel using quality materials and nav equipment. As always , 🍺 to the Captain and Ran-day . Great review gentleman. Looking forward to the next one 👍
I love how the CQ lads are so gracious even when reviewing such a ridiculous amount of work, always seeing the potential. What a project! Nice to see the doggie love too. Sweet smiles 😊 Also, not be a pest, but us viewers really want to see Randay’s new boat. How about a 30 second teaser in the next episode, just to tide us over until perhaps a new channel is created when the time is right. I'm relieved all is well and back on schedule. I was worried last week wth the late post. Keep going. We would miss you too much if you ever stopped.
I would rent a JCB and dig a big hole, crane it in then back fill it with foam, plumb in a water supply and then you would have a cozy starter home or a subterranean workshop or even a wine cellar. It’s not the Mary rose so its not worth the renovation really because it will never justify its cost.
So sad to see what was once a beautiful boat in such disrepair. It will take lots of sweat and tears and money to restore her. Thanks as always for sharing another great video. ⛵️⛵️🥰
I think this is a cool boat! Yes, it's a project, but so what? My current boat is a project boat and I'm loving it. It gives me something to do, I'm learning about my boat, and I get to customize it the way that I want. If it takes someone ten years and $80K to fix this boat...who cares? In ten years you'll have a lovely world traveler! Thank you Randy and Captain Q for showing us this boat.
I was once told that anything could be fixed with enough time and money, but for 25K you could buy a lot of resin and cloth and build your own hull and start fresh. That is all that is here is a hull and deck..an old hull and deck with concrete as one of the keel materials.
🙂 Captain & Randy. Talk about two sides of a coin! Last week a little on the high side and this week a complete rework! And you knew you had this one in the can last week when I got on you two about high point! You guys are sea devils. 😅 Ok. This boat would be a awesome project for a young couple with a couple of sons 🤔 Once upon a time that may have been my brother and I except we built one from the get go 😅 But we really loved her like one of the family and the experience was priceless! I really enjoyed this one! Thanks for taking me down memory lane. Thinking about sharing with my brother, but he didn't really enjoy working on the boat while his friends were out and about. Fair winds & smooth sailing. 🤙🏻
Kelly-Peterson 44/46 have an extreme reputation with respect to seaworthiness, speed and livability. I had the opportunity to be at the boatyard in Taiwan during buildtime and can confirm the solid and handcraft making of these boats - and after several European production boats I got one of them 3 years ago - what a difference!
If offered for $1.00, it would still be overpriced by $5,001.00 in my opinion. Thank Goodness there are others out there with bigger dreams, imagination, work ethic and knowledge than myself. It is for sure the perfect boat for someone in an un-perfect situation. I do hope they see this video and bliss ensues Love your episodes Cap'n Q. p.s. - good job not panicking as you took off on that sheet of ice under the stairs. I've seen many in that situation tighten up where feet and head traded places in an instant.
Neato. The value in this boat is in the invaluable, free education you would receive from restoring this ol' beauty. I'm sure there's a plucky, young couple that would be willing to take on the challenge. Maybe even put it all on YT with regular check-ups from Cpt. and Randay. I'm tempted myself, tbh, but I just bought a house last week, so I'm already waay to poor to even ponder the notion. Fair winds Captain!
@@YachtHunters all kidding aside, the last year has been a real eye opener for me, I’ve got a 40k budget which this side of the pond won’t buy much but you gentlemen have really educated me, so thank you very, very much. I’ve signed up for a sailing course at the end of October in the Irish Sea, it’ll be a tad nippy…
Captain Q. You are truly an inspiration. Thank you for showing the possibilities. This Kelly Peterson 44 is one of my favorite boats in the world. This boat is the real deal! For me, there is nothing better than doing all the work yourself. I have rebuilt, houses, cars, motorcycles, but a boat is one of my dreams.
I reckon the half share concept is absolutely brilliant for the right person to restore this boat back to her original beauty with the built in assistance of a master to show you how. Thanks for going out on a limb a bit to bring us this video. Now, how about a video about Captain Q’s own PB the Le Comte 52, that we keep being tantalised by.
Great Episode again, This boat reminds me of the tv series Firefly, Should you spend the money, time and effort to fix it up? probably not. You could get a better deal (probably) on something else, but you would do all of that and more for Love of the boat and knowing how neglected she was when you started and what a treasure it would be once finished. Hopefully she finds her Captain Mal. Ship like this, be with you till you die That's because it's a death trap
I'd be worried about the condition of the hull, let alone rigging. Beyond that, even for someone who's very handy, the bottom line might well end up nearly six-figures - unless you don't value your time.
I am a bit old (at 64), so there is not enough sand in the hourglass. I recall some wonderful evenings aboard a friend's KP 44. The only drawback was having to look around the mast at your companions on the other side of the saloon at dinner (it had a more traditional settee setup with a centerline table). It is very fast compared to the competition.
After rehabbing 7.5 of 10 apartments I own with one more coming this winter I don't think I would like to tackle this one. That said, for someone who is willing and able to invest the time and money in this one it looks like it's got good bones and could be a very seaworthy boat. Keep the good stuff coming Captain.
Hello captain the owner looks like he could be your brother .That boat is or will be sweet when it 's done .Thank god it's on the east coast or I would be sorely tempted to invest in it .If I was a teacher at a trade school this would be perfect for hands on training .you have glass work, wood work ,electrical ,mechanical ,plumbing so on and so forth .And for graduation day you could all go sailing for the day .
I totally agree, Captain. With the present owners proven ability to take the lead on this job, $12,500 is well worth the price of the boat building education alone. If I was a younger man, I’m older than you, I would jump at it. Maybe in another life. Such deals don’t come along that often, and can well be a life changing move. It is a gamble well worth taking for the right person.
There's one of these for sale on yachtworld. Asking price is $65,000, but we all know that can be negotiated down under $60,000. The boat is located in Mexico. It has five year old electronics, five year old canvas, and five year old standing rigging. It comes with a dinghy motor (no mention of a dinghy), a SSB, and a water maker. The auxiliary engine has 1000 hours on it. From the pics, the boat appears to be in really good shape. So, for an extra $35,000 (plus broker fees, taxes, ect) you can buy one of these ready to sail. That seems like a no-brainer to me.
Yes, we talked recently on these boat. It really is a fantastic boat. Very fast ( I hit near 200 mile days a couple of times in the Pacific.) And very well behaved. Helm could be a little heavy but even when totally out of trim, had full authority. A lot of boats don’t. Great layout and yes, very solid. Loved mine. Never any significant problems in 10 yrs of full time cruising.
That a good deal, $12,000 ,half ownership, make sure you get a lawyer to draw up the deal. If you don't get along with the owner, your our of $12,000 dollars. Im 70 years old , worked on boats all my life, your looking at a 100,000 to get it in the water, then another 20,000 to get it sea worthy.
Definitely a project boat. Nice to have some variety compared to what you have shown in other videos. Can appreciate the value in the other “sail away” boats (20+ ratings) compared to this one needing such extensive work.
I think the rating you gave this one is fair. It has good bones. BUT!! It needs a lot of work to say the least. I noticed some rust or something coming out of the shaft tube on the keel. That was a little worrisome on top of everything else. It might be overthinking something though. The interior is a total YIKES!!! Although there was some good material left. Maybe. The hull looked sound though.
Can Aussies get a green card Captain? There's a heap of work to be done sure but I'd love to get my hands on this puppy. I've also been watching Mads and Eva on saillife and what he has achieved by himself mostly is all but fantastic..absolutely do-able with the knowledge of the owner. But it will take a lot of coin to fix her right.Which begs the question what would you do for work on the side to finance all the required materials? That would be the only thing stopping me getting on a kite guys.Also this would be a full time job with 2 guys for at least two years going full steam..providing you can gel with the owner and work well/ gel togerher..But geez I'd be up for it. Loved this yacht. If the owner can sort accommodation out into the deal then... dream big this is a floating house and could be glorious. Loved this episode guys..Til next week Auf wiedersehen
Been renting sailboats in the bay watching your videos, watching yacht sales and I cam to a conclusion I want to sail to some where not around and it appears that I would be better to buy a yacht in its midlife sail it for a year or-so then sell it off and move on to the next one or the next phase of retirement.
this is unique, an interesting new twist on "yacht" hunting!...however since Sea Dog apparently (?) decided not to weigh in, it's a no on this one for me. Also, anything new to report on Ran-day's previously (EP?) mentioned boating adventure?
I don't know but looks like a ton of work to me I work effectively and could fix that boat in two years but how things are going my schedules pretty packed
It's going to take alot of work, not that that's necessarily a bad thing, the selling point I don't think is the boat so much as the oppourtunity to work with the gentleman, access to the tools, knowledge and place to keep the boat. As training it could be a great investment, that said there's going to be alot of costs involved in fixing it and at the end of it you'd have a great boat but need to sell it to probably not make much monetary profit (if any) unless you had deep pockets. Buying it out right would seem overpriced. It reminds me of Uma (a Peterson 36 of course).
If I lived near, I would definitely buy 1/2 of this project knowing that the other half knew what the hell he was doing. But take on the whole thing myself? Not in a million years!!!!
How long was that boat on the bottom sunk? Thanks for the show. Every 4th or 8th boat should be one like this. In my price range. I could see doing some kinda deal.
Have sailed a bit on J44s that’s a big freaking boat in really bad condition to restore as the Cal29 took me 20 months and I restore machinery for a living I paid 500 dollars for the Cal and it was to much money
I love the design and layout of this boat, but $25K is just way to much money for the amount of work required. I just did a quick Google search and found a few of the same 1977-1979 boats for sale that ranged from 2 $35K and $48K examples which needed moderate updating (but were able to be sailed), a couple 1978 ones that were $65K and had extensive updating/repair/new equipment and one 1979 boat for $90K which could be sailed around the world tomorrow (and had performed 2 circumnavigations)
Nice episode. This is one of those...”It would be nice if...”. And once you get past the interior rebuild, the hull work, you still have rigging, sails, and cases of Dinty Moore and Frexinet to provision. Plus a few Costco frozen lasagnas.... Wouldn’t it be nice....
Concrete and iron is only trouble. Once it's had salt in it, it's just a matter of time. Now is the time to get it out of her, clean up her bilges and replace it with lead encased in polyester.
Seems to be more of a give-away type project after someone gets a feel for how much work will be required to make it float. Even free, it'll be into the $100K+ to get it floating again,.. maybe upwards of $125K to be in offshore condition once again. It's a mess right now,.. Quiz! How do you get a project boat worth $150K? Answer, put $250K into it.
Captain could the pitting on the hull be osmosis .? You said it was a solid glass lay up .i presume that the matt ithat is visably delaminating was jus a final finishing layer .would be gratefull for you take on this matter
Surface blisters. I think referred to as Osmotic blistering. When popped they smell of vinegar. Major problem for some hulls built around that time frame. There was an oil crisis that caused some resin manufacturers to change formulas which caused blistering issues. Not bad if small, but on some boats the blisters went very deep and were very large. I have seen where they use a planer to cut a layer of hull off and build the hull back up with epoxy. If I had any concerns about blistering I would recommend a professional survey by someone very qualified in blister repair. It is not a cheap or easy repair. Down here in Florida the hot salt water makes the problems even worse.
@@sailorman263 thanks for the info we have a big problem in the pacific with osmosis in boats of that age .i have seen many hulls beyound repair due to osmosis .i think it is more prone to happen in chopped strand mat aplication not so much in a hand layup of glass and cloth .
You should have planted a couple empty containers of DM and F throughout for added effect. Looks like a wonderful has been but way too much work for most. And yes you “found it”.
That did sting a bit - not getting a 10. The poor gal has fallen a long ways. It's going to take deep pockets and true believers to bring her back. Props to who ever tackles it. Dang shame she was allowed to get so bad.
I think this boat is a lost cause. Only a die hard Kelly Peterson lover would or should tackle this project. Please prove me wrong and splash a beautiful boat.
Cast iron embedded in cement will always rust, then splay, cracking the cement. Cheap construction techniques. For a very few dollars more they could have used lead and epoxy. If they cut this corner you can bet they cut many corners to make it cheaper.
Hi George, Kelly Peterson construction was the opposite: Attention to detail. Jack Kelly put engineers on the ground in Taiwan to oversee 24/7. Many, many stories of their input, refinements, etc. Including some first hand by posters here to confirm. The keel construction using cement is debatable. It's discussed, but the real issue is, there's never been an issue. No delam, nothing. Just a shallow bilge w a solid keel construction. Amd, absolutely rock solid compared to modern production boats w bolt on issues, etc. Granted, this one is rough. But, as he points out, after a Hinkley review, KP44s are clearly one of the best foundations to build on.
The part about the concrete and steel is absolutely untrue. I can confirm this with my own eyes. The Kelly Peterson boats have lead keels not iron, not concrete and steel. I struck a rock in the strait of Georgia BC Canada. I was hung up healing at 30° for six hours until high tide and could get pulled off after a day and a half sail to a lift. We found about $100 in damage to the keel! (Filler and paint) the lead in the keel was clearly exposed and tested… It's lead
25 grand? Seriously? She looks more like two and a half grand including everything every owner ever has bought for her plus a free two years of storage and workshop-access to be honest. There's still a certain amount of potential left, given it's a classic CC Cutter, but that potential is buried well beyond anything we'd call "fixer-upper". It is a full rebuild You gotta do here: Hull, deck, interior, tech. There might be some salvagable parts but You basically have to restore/rebuild/replace everything underdeck which would be two years for a very hard worker alone before any sq-foot of deck will be addressed. The pickled hull is fixable, but that is another crapload of dirty overhead work involving a lot of machinery and expensive material. So, she might have been a beauty once as much as a fiberglass boat can be one, but she's not a "sleeping beauty" today easily roused with a kiss, more like a pretty brittle mummy determined to eat up and evaporate Your effort and money with little to show once You will be way beyond the investment a better version would have required.
Thankx for all the lessons Capt.Q! Love ur show! The 1984 41' Erwin Ketch a few months ago? I can't find the contact info and wondered if maybe it was already sold? Thanks! Brock on pawley's Island Sc
The Kelly Peterson S# is 1.9. I would love to hear the Captain's opinion on this rating. S# first appeared (that we know of) in TellTales, April 1988, “On a Scale of One to Ten” by A.P. Brooks . The equation incorporates SA/Disp (100% fore triangle) and Disp/length ratios to create a guide to probable boat performance vs. other boats of comparable size. For boats of the same length, generally the higher the S#, the lower the PHRF. Under 2 - Slow, under powered. 2-3 - Cruiser 3-5 - Racer Cruiser 5+ - Fast/Racing
Yes I don't quite understand that rating for that boat. My best 24 hour period was 207 miles very impressive for a 33,000 pound boat with 1056 ft.² of sail. These Kelly Peterson's are bad ass. Honestly, I couldn't be happier.
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Not enough Dinty Moore in the world to finish this little beauty. $250k will get you $150K worth of boat. Of course maybe Mads at Sail Life might want to jump on this little gem...
You leave Mads alone, he just got Athena under sail after five years!
Randy was on fire today, one quick quip after another. Bravo! Those were great boats and getting hard to find.
BTW, Thank you Captain Q and Ran-Day for the video! I was also happy to hear you mention my lost aunt. Aunt Polly Esther. She was never the same after she went to sea.
I don’t remember seeing a review quite like this on Captain Qs channel. Though I found the pairs humor quite entertaining I still can appreciate that they still respect what they were inspecting . Having been in AARP territory for some years now I’m not quite sure I would want to invest the time in this boat bringing her back but still feel it has the “ bones” to be brought back to a fine sailing vessel. With the entire below deck being opened it gives the owner a opportunity to install and restore the vessel using quality materials and nav equipment. As always , 🍺 to the Captain and Ran-day . Great review gentleman. Looking forward to the next one 👍
I love how the CQ lads are so gracious even when reviewing such a ridiculous amount of work, always seeing the potential. What a project! Nice to see the doggie love too. Sweet smiles 😊 Also, not be a pest, but us viewers really want to see Randay’s new boat. How about a 30 second teaser in the next episode, just to tide us over until perhaps a new channel is created when the time is right. I'm relieved all is well and back on schedule. I was worried last week wth the late post. Keep going. We would miss you too much if you ever stopped.
this is way to rough for 25k , especially 12,500 for partnership, it's 5k max that is a stretch as rough as hull looks
I concur. 5k is way too low, tbh. I think $7.5K - $10K is fine for buyer and seller both.
I would rent a JCB and dig a big hole, crane it in then back fill it with foam, plumb in a water supply and then you would have a cozy starter home or a subterranean workshop or even a wine cellar. It’s not the Mary rose so its not worth the renovation really because it will never justify its cost.
So sad to see what was once a beautiful boat in such disrepair. It will take lots of sweat and tears and money to restore her.
Thanks as always for sharing another great video. ⛵️⛵️🥰
I think this is a cool boat! Yes, it's a project, but so what? My current boat is a project boat and I'm loving it. It gives me something to do, I'm learning about my boat, and I get to customize it the way that I want. If it takes someone ten years and $80K to fix this boat...who cares? In ten years you'll have a lovely world traveler! Thank you Randy and Captain Q for showing us this boat.
I was once told that anything could be fixed with enough time and money, but for 25K you could buy a lot of resin and cloth and build your own hull and start fresh. That is all that is here is a hull and deck..an old hull and deck with concrete as one of the keel materials.
I would frankly worry about getting all my hand back if offering 5,000, afraid it would be grabbed too fast.
sir I have laughed out loud, and needed it today
A $150,000 yacht selling for $25,000 generally needs $175,000 in repairs. Great video as always.
🙂 Captain & Randy.
Talk about two sides of a coin! Last week a little on the high side and this week a complete rework! And you knew you had this one in the can last week when I got on you two about high point! You guys are sea devils. 😅
Ok.
This boat would be a awesome project for a young couple with a couple of sons 🤔 Once upon a time that may have been my brother and I except we built one from the get go 😅 But we really loved her like one of the family and the experience was priceless!
I really enjoyed this one!
Thanks for taking me down memory lane. Thinking about sharing with my brother, but he didn't really enjoy working on the boat while his friends were out and about.
Fair winds & smooth sailing. 🤙🏻
We.can’t get round you. Lol
Glad you enjoyed it
If I were younger........ However, when you said, it's set up in Mississippi a number of years, well I think its a Katrina boat. (Hurricane Katrina)
Hi Captain Q and Ran-day! Looking forward to this week's episode! Thanks so much!
Kelly-Peterson 44/46 have an extreme reputation with respect to seaworthiness, speed and livability. I had the opportunity to be at the boatyard in Taiwan during buildtime and can confirm the solid and handcraft making of these boats - and after several European production boats I got one of them 3 years ago - what a difference!
My biggest concern was captain Q twisting a ankle. Thanks for sharing history of that model of sailboat.
Washed up on a high tide, but great viewing, thank you.
If offered for $1.00, it would still be overpriced by $5,001.00 in my opinion. Thank Goodness there are others out there with bigger dreams, imagination, work ethic and knowledge than myself. It is for sure the perfect boat for someone in an un-perfect situation. I do hope they see this video and bliss ensues Love your episodes Cap'n Q. p.s. - good job not panicking as you took off on that sheet of ice under the stairs. I've seen many in that situation tighten up where feet and head traded places in an instant.
This is my dream! Such a good opportunity to learn! ✋🏻
Neato. The value in this boat is in the invaluable, free education you would receive from restoring this ol' beauty. I'm sure there's a plucky, young couple that would be willing to take on the challenge. Maybe even put it all on YT with regular check-ups from Cpt. and Randay. I'm tempted myself, tbh, but I just bought a house last week, so I'm already waay to poor to even ponder the notion. Fair winds Captain!
For the perfect ice skating exhibition the judges award a 10! It's in the bag!
Thank you. Wd old goalies were never that stable on our blades
@@YachtHunters all kidding aside, the last year has been a real eye opener for me, I’ve got a 40k budget which this side of the pond won’t buy much but you gentlemen have really educated me, so thank you very, very much. I’ve signed up for a sailing course at the end of October in the Irish Sea, it’ll be a tad nippy…
Captain Q. You are truly an inspiration. Thank you for showing the possibilities. This Kelly Peterson 44 is one of my favorite boats in the world. This boat is the real deal! For me, there is nothing better than doing all the work yourself. I have rebuilt, houses, cars, motorcycles, but a boat is one of my dreams.
From the highest to the lowest! A Captain Q rating of 8 is very fair on this one.
I reckon the half share concept is absolutely brilliant for the right person to restore this boat back to her original beauty with the built in assistance of a master to show you how. Thanks for going out on a limb a bit to bring us this video.
Now, how about a video about Captain Q’s own PB the Le Comte 52, that we keep being tantalised by.
I’d do a 90% share.
If I were a single man I'd be moving up to Maine and atleast helping to restore this boat just for this gentleman's wealth of knowledge
You guys are awesome!
I love your work and am learning so much from you .
Thank you!!!
Great Episode again, This boat reminds me of the tv series Firefly,
Should you spend the money, time and effort to fix it up? probably not. You could get a better deal (probably) on something else, but you would do all of that and more for Love of the boat and knowing how neglected she was when you started and what a treasure it would be once finished. Hopefully she finds her Captain Mal.
Ship like this, be with you till you die
That's because it's a death trap
Bummer of a summer up there ;)
Overall, a fun video and a teaching video. We can all learn what happens to a very nice boat when it wasn't taken care of properly.
The Captain states the obvious without offending. Well done.
would love to see more FIXerUppers from you Q. Thanks for sharing . Not sure how he came up with 25k but ? CHeers
I'd be worried about the condition of the hull, let alone rigging. Beyond that, even for someone who's very handy, the bottom line might well end up nearly six-figures - unless you don't value your time.
this boat will give you covid-30
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Love your reviews Cap’n but steel ‘n concrete in the keel plus the dreaded vinyl-ester resin pox will make for terminally expensive tears. Next!
I am a bit old (at 64), so there is not enough sand in the hourglass. I recall some wonderful evenings aboard a friend's KP 44. The only drawback was having to look around the mast at your companions on the other side of the saloon at dinner (it had a more traditional settee setup with a centerline table). It is very fast compared to the competition.
Its gonna need a lot of money. But hey. Someone out there loves these challenges. Good episode guys. Always nice to learn at every episode. Stay safe.
After rehabbing 7.5 of 10 apartments I own with one more coming this winter I don't think I would like to tackle this one. That said, for someone who is willing and able to invest the time and money in this one it looks like it's got good bones and could be a very seaworthy boat. Keep the good stuff coming Captain.
Hello captain the owner looks like he could be your brother .That boat is or will be sweet when it 's done .Thank god it's on the east coast or I would be sorely tempted to invest in it .If I was a teacher at a trade school this would be perfect for hands on training .you have glass work, wood work ,electrical ,mechanical ,plumbing so on and so forth .And for graduation day you could all go sailing for the day .
I totally agree, Captain. With the present owners proven ability to take the lead on this job, $12,500 is well worth the price of the boat building education alone. If I was a younger man, I’m older than you, I would jump at it. Maybe in another life. Such deals don’t come along that often, and can well be a life changing move. It is a gamble well worth taking for the right person.
There's one of these for sale on yachtworld. Asking price is $65,000, but we all know that can be negotiated down under $60,000. The boat is located in Mexico. It has five year old electronics, five year old canvas, and five year old standing rigging. It comes with a dinghy motor (no mention of a dinghy), a SSB, and a water maker. The auxiliary engine has 1000 hours on it. From the pics, the boat appears to be in really good shape.
So, for an extra $35,000 (plus broker fees, taxes, ect) you can buy one of these ready to sail. That seems like a no-brainer to me.
You would miss so much fun though!
I suppose whatever bit the Captain's finger was guarding all the Dinty Moore...
Yes, we talked recently on these boat. It really is a fantastic boat. Very fast ( I hit near 200 mile days a couple of times in the Pacific.) And very well behaved. Helm could be a little heavy but even when totally out of trim, had full authority. A lot of boats don’t. Great layout and yes, very solid. Loved mine. Never any significant problems in 10 yrs of full time cruising.
Ahoy Cap't!!! Thanks for another interesting one!
when in Freeport, stop by the NorthSails loft. Pretty amazing place.
Great stuff. Love to see more of these. Love what you do.
That a good deal, $12,000 ,half ownership, make sure you get a lawyer to draw up the deal. If you don't get along with the owner, your our of $12,000 dollars.
Im 70 years old , worked on boats all my life, your looking at a 100,000 to get it in the water, then another 20,000 to get it sea worthy.
Definitely a project boat. Nice to have some variety compared to what you have shown in other videos. Can appreciate the value in the other “sail away” boats (20+ ratings) compared to this one needing such extensive work.
I really hope someone does refinish this boat, it is beautiful!
Rough looking. No project boats for me anymore. Now I got a 420 in the garage needing a little bit of everything. Diamond in the rough
I think the rating you gave this one is fair. It has good bones. BUT!! It needs a lot of work to say the least. I noticed some rust or something coming out of the shaft tube on the keel. That was a little worrisome on top of everything else. It might be overthinking something though. The interior is a total YIKES!!! Although there was some good material left. Maybe.
The hull looked sound though.
Can Aussies get a green card Captain? There's a heap of work to be done sure but I'd love to get my hands on this puppy. I've also been watching Mads and Eva on saillife and what he has achieved by himself mostly is all but fantastic..absolutely do-able with the knowledge of the owner. But it will take a lot of coin to fix her right.Which begs the question what would you do for work on the side to finance all the required materials? That would be the only thing stopping me getting on a kite guys.Also this would be a full time job with 2 guys for at least two years going full steam..providing you can gel with the owner and work well/ gel togerher..But geez I'd be up for it. Loved this yacht. If the owner can sort accommodation out into the deal then... dream big this is a floating house and could be glorious. Loved this episode guys..Til next week Auf wiedersehen
I've been waiting patiently.
"Looks like you're making spaghetti" :-) pretty quick-witted Randy
Been renting sailboats in the bay watching your videos, watching yacht sales and I cam to a conclusion I want to sail to some where not around and it appears that I would be better to buy a yacht in its midlife sail it for a year or-so then sell it off and move on to the next one or the next phase of retirement.
I even used my best imagination I could still not imagine this boat ever being a complete
Was expecting to spot a rusty empty can of Dinty.
Plus 2 for the dog!?! Love the humor! Can’t wait for the follow up just before the splash! I’m counting on it.
Run from that monster before it eats you
LOL >>>THERE IS A .....ALL COMPLETE ONE (new systems 2018)
In for a penny, in for a pound is the only way to get it back on the water. whew... that Hinckely 41 is a prize.
this is unique, an interesting new twist on "yacht" hunting!...however since Sea Dog apparently (?) decided not to weigh in, it's a no on this one for me. Also, anything new to report on Ran-day's previously (EP?) mentioned boating adventure?
not first, but certainly not last... good work Capt'n!
I don't know but looks like a ton of work to me I work effectively and could fix that boat in two years but how things are going my schedules pretty packed
It's going to take alot of work, not that that's necessarily a bad thing, the selling point I don't think is the boat so much as the oppourtunity to work with the gentleman, access to the tools, knowledge and place to keep the boat. As training it could be a great investment, that said there's going to be alot of costs involved in fixing it and at the end of it you'd have a great boat but need to sell it to probably not make much monetary profit (if any) unless you had deep pockets. Buying it out right would seem overpriced. It reminds me of Uma (a Peterson 36 of course).
Call when you are done with this renovation, haha. If I took on a job like this I would never live to see the end results.
If I lived near, I would definitely buy 1/2 of this project knowing that the other half knew what the hell he was doing.
But take on the whole thing myself?
Not in a million years!!!!
How long was that boat on the bottom sunk? Thanks for the show. Every 4th or 8th boat should be one like this. In my price range. I could see doing some kinda deal.
It was exciting for me to see a picture of Sea Crane featured in your video, who is my neighbor here at Harbor Island Marina in Seattle Washington.
Simalar to the Island Trader 37 sitting in a Milwaukee warehouse. It takes the right person with the youth, skill and vission.
& cash... put another $50k into her (low estimate) you have a real blue water beauty
Have sailed a bit on J44s that’s a big freaking boat in really bad condition to restore as the Cal29 took me 20 months and I restore machinery for a living
I paid 500 dollars for the Cal and it was to much money
It appears that the more the restorer gets into this job, the more damage he’ll discover, not worth bothering with unless money is no object.
and time
I love the design and layout of this boat, but $25K is just way to much money for the amount of work required. I just did a quick Google search and found a few of the same 1977-1979 boats for sale that ranged from 2 $35K and $48K examples which needed moderate updating (but were able to be sailed), a couple 1978 ones that were $65K and had extensive updating/repair/new equipment and one 1979 boat for $90K which could be sailed around the world tomorrow (and had performed 2 circumnavigations)
Capt! Randy! Snow???? Is that really snow??? I remember in the early 80s snow in mid September. 🤔
Nice episode. This is one of those...”It would be nice if...”. And once you get past the interior rebuild, the hull work, you still have rigging, sails, and cases of Dinty Moore and Frexinet to provision. Plus a few Costco frozen lasagnas.... Wouldn’t it be nice....
That is such an awesome opportunity, I wish someone like that was out here in Northern California.
I have a pile of rotted timber in my backyard.
Concrete and iron is only trouble. Once it's had salt in it, it's just a matter of time. Now is the time to get it out of her, clean up her bilges and replace it with lead encased in polyester.
That part is an accurate, and I caught that myself. The keels are lead in the KP boats.
Seems to be more of a give-away type project after someone gets a feel for how much work will be required to make it float. Even free, it'll be into the $100K+ to get it floating again,.. maybe upwards of $125K to be in offshore condition once again. It's a mess right now,.. Quiz! How do you get a project boat worth $150K? Answer, put $250K into it.
Yeah $100,000 plus if you do all your own work
Captain could the pitting on the hull be osmosis .? You said it was a solid glass lay up .i presume that the matt ithat is visably delaminating was jus a final finishing layer .would be gratefull for you take on this matter
Surface blisters. I think referred to as Osmotic blistering. When popped they smell of vinegar. Major problem for some hulls built around that time frame. There was an oil crisis that caused some resin manufacturers to change formulas which caused blistering issues. Not bad if small, but on some boats the blisters went very deep and were very large. I have seen where they use a planer to cut a layer of hull off and build the hull back up with epoxy. If I had any concerns about blistering I would recommend a professional survey by someone very qualified in blister repair. It is not a cheap or easy repair. Down here in Florida the hot salt water makes the problems even worse.
@@sailorman263 thanks for the info we have a big problem in the pacific with osmosis in boats of that age .i have seen many hulls beyound repair due to osmosis .i think it is more prone to happen in chopped strand mat aplication not so much in a hand layup of glass and cloth .
Great job guys, not so great on the work load. Less we forget sometime for sailing.
You should have planted a couple empty containers of DM and F throughout for added effect. Looks like a wonderful has been but way too much work for most. And yes you “found it”.
To quote Planes Trains and Automobiles.... " a little bit of buffing and it will be good as new" 😜
That did sting a bit - not getting a 10. The poor gal has fallen a long ways. It's going to take deep pockets and true believers to bring her back. Props to who ever tackles it. Dang shame she was allowed to get so bad.
Never understood why owners leave boats to rot away....sad.
Good video. Lot of elbow grease 💪 involved 💪 😎
I think this boat is a lost cause. Only a die hard Kelly Peterson lover would or should tackle this project. Please prove me wrong and splash a beautiful boat.
If someone agrees to haul it away for free the owner should take it.
Cap’n Q & Ran-day, it’s been a year since we first saw her - any chance we could see the progress on this fine vessel?
Soap and water? Did you hit your head when you slipped under the keel? 😳😳
Cast iron embedded in cement will always rust, then splay, cracking the cement. Cheap construction techniques. For a very few dollars more they could have used lead and epoxy. If they cut this corner you can bet they cut many corners to make it cheaper.
Hi George, Kelly Peterson construction was the opposite: Attention to detail. Jack Kelly put engineers on the ground in Taiwan to oversee 24/7. Many, many stories of their input, refinements, etc. Including some first hand by posters here to confirm. The keel construction using cement is debatable. It's discussed, but the real issue is, there's never been an issue. No delam, nothing. Just a shallow bilge w a solid keel construction. Amd, absolutely rock solid compared to modern production boats w bolt on issues, etc. Granted, this one is rough. But, as he points out, after a Hinkley review, KP44s are clearly one of the best foundations to build on.
The part about the concrete and steel is absolutely untrue. I can confirm this with my own eyes. The Kelly Peterson boats have lead keels not iron, not concrete and steel. I struck a rock in the strait of Georgia BC Canada. I was hung up healing at 30° for six hours until high tide and could get pulled off after a day and a half sail to a lift. We found about $100 in damage to the keel! (Filler and paint) the lead in the keel was clearly exposed and tested… It's lead
25 grand? Seriously? She looks more like two and a half grand including everything every owner ever has bought for her plus a free two years of storage and workshop-access to be honest. There's still a certain amount of potential left, given it's a classic CC Cutter, but that potential is buried well beyond anything we'd call "fixer-upper". It is a full rebuild You gotta do here: Hull, deck, interior, tech. There might be some salvagable parts but You basically have to restore/rebuild/replace everything underdeck which would be two years for a very hard worker alone before any sq-foot of deck will be addressed. The pickled hull is fixable, but that is another crapload of dirty overhead work involving a lot of machinery and expensive material. So, she might have been a beauty once as much as a fiberglass boat can be one, but she's not a "sleeping beauty" today easily roused with a kiss, more like a pretty brittle mummy determined to eat up and evaporate Your effort and money with little to show once You will be way beyond the investment a better version would have required.
How about a starter something you could sail signal handed 28 35 foot
or for the Great loop
Whaooo Capt. You about dropped the Dinty Moore!
good luck getting anywhere close to 25000$
Thankx for all the lessons Capt.Q! Love ur show! The 1984 41' Erwin Ketch a few months ago? I can't find the contact info and wondered if maybe it was already sold? Thanks! Brock on pawley's Island Sc
It did sell. So sorry but I have a contact for another one if you are interested
Massive amount of work. I refit two boats, never again.
two is plenty for a lifetime! well done, Daniel
You should do an episode on dingys
The Kelly Peterson S# is 1.9. I would love to hear the Captain's opinion on this rating.
S# first appeared (that we know of) in TellTales, April 1988, “On a Scale of One to Ten” by A.P. Brooks . The equation incorporates SA/Disp (100% fore triangle) and Disp/length ratios to create a guide to probable boat performance vs. other boats of comparable size. For boats of the same length, generally the higher the S#, the lower the PHRF.
Under 2 - Slow, under powered.
2-3 - Cruiser
3-5 - Racer Cruiser
5+ - Fast/Racing
Yes I don't quite understand that rating for that boat. My best 24 hour period was 207 miles very impressive for a 33,000 pound boat with 1056 ft.² of sail. These Kelly Peterson's are bad ass. Honestly, I couldn't be happier.
In my chair with my coffee and show!!!
Speaking of that Cal... I was sorry to see it went for scrap.
very sad
This looks like something I could sink my teeth into.