Why You Should Ignore Overall Ratings in Career Mode!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Thank you so much to the creator of the Marcuss FIFA OVR Calculator, I used it a lot throughout this video.
I’m sure everyone watching this has had one of those players that's low rated, but plays better than anyone else in your squad. Maybe you preferred using Timo Werner over Thomas Muller, maybe it was Ansu Fati being a better striker than Robert Lewandowski, well today we’re looking at exactly what makes a player perform, and showing how little overall actually matters!
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When you sim a game against the team who is bottom of the league it's likely to lose that game. It's so weird
not that unrealistic tbf just look at arsenal vs everton
Because those teams want to win it more
@@KipzHDZThey had the new manager bounce tho
Try watching the sim and then siming the game seemed to work for me
@@KipzHDZ Ok, it might be realistic once, maybe twice per season - unfortunately this happens 90% of the time. Pretty unrealistic if you ask me
FIFA 22 there was a Thai player who plays in The J League for Kawasaki Frontale called Chanathip Songkrasin, and this guy was crazy good. 27 years old at the time, 71 rated CF but position change to a cam or a winger and he’s 73! Has 5 star skill moves, high agility, balance and acceleration and he’s 5’2, so he feels like he flies and he’s skilful. He’s silky as. The Thai Messi 🇹🇭🐐
I trained that guy to 81😁
@@dameysegveldje8765 highest I got him to was 85, best player I’ve used on fifa in years
Got him to a 90 at age 35
@@koxael players start decreasing at 33 tho???
@Alo Ibrahim I’ve had it with players 33+ where they’ve maintained their overall, but they haven’t grown by anymore. I had Muller for Paris FC in season 3 on a free and he played well and was my best player, still went down by 1 in those 2 seasons
One of my fav strikers is an Australian named Mitchell Duke, his ovr is around 65 but really enjoyed using him with Salford CM, he gave me 15-20 goals each season and then scored a deciding goal in his last match in EFL, which help us be the champion, what a legend
I used in one of my saves randomly can't remember the team but Duke is insane.
mitchell duke is a god, should've seen him at the world cup
@@muffinman4519 Really should be playing in a better league
He's a legend between me and my mate as well. Go to striker every time I do a career mode. It was weird seeing him at the world cup because I barely recognised him but already held him in such high regard. Absolute legend.
legendary free agent, was nice seeing him at the WC
I had a player from my academy named Leo Schmidt, in Fifa 21. Only 73 overall, with 80 pace and 75 dribble, but I swear I never played so well with other in Fifa (all fifa). 1860 Munique legend, won the bundesliga and the europa league.
Munique? In what kind of galaxy is München called Munique? 😂😂😂
@@xBatboys4 I think in Portuguese it's Munique 😆😆
@@redrum885 YES
@@xBatboys4 sorry I forgot that is different in English😅
@@armstrongeditz7602 oh dont worry it sounded just really funny to me
Unrelated but you can call up players in your youth academy for the national team that you're managing. You can use these players in international friendlies before promoting them to the senior team at club level
So when I play carrer mode I can play national team at the same time as club team ?
@@UlfJayThatGoldenTeacher yes. International offers are an option you can turn in in manager career mode. Meaning you would be able to manage a club, and an international team
@@erickbernal2937 cool. I'll have to try that
What benefits do you get?
@@zjamieibzjamieib145 Knowing the level of the players and who to promote. Maybe growth aswell.
In Fifa 20, Vinicius Jr. was 79 rated but felt like 90+ rated winger. Sure his finishing left a lot to be desired but he was a better player at 79 OVR than Gareth Bale at 85 OVR and Eden Hazard at 91 OVR. Could beat defenders with such ease, it was unbelievable.
Yeah man, i played FIFA 20 alot and i'd only pick Vini in my wing because of his incredible pace which allowed him to outrun those defensive lines.
Ive always thought about what if overall ratings or stats wouldnt even be displayed in career mode, it would be cool having to judge by the market value and the players recent performances.
Scouts can be assigned to try and determine their weak foot ability and work rates, reputation.
I think they should att a setting that allowes to do that.
play football manager with stats hidden :)
It will be impossible for the game calculate what team is stronger
You are right, playing cm for years now. For example Kyogo was one of my best strikers in the last career mode. He was only 77-80 but would make the topscorer in league and CL, so smooth to play, nearly as to play with Messi. Btw nice Channel I watch every video.
Kyogo 🐐
Hiroki Abe was top striker for me at 72 rating in fifa 18. Helped me win champions league with Leicester.
In my Fifa 22 Paris FC career mode, Kyogo was goated. 89 overall in the end, played so well that his dynamic potential took him from 75 to that ourscored Mbappe 3 out of 5 years and won the golden boot in them years, bagged at least 30 goals every year. Another good low rated striker is Jamal Lowe. Feels so slick and smooth on the ball and he bags so many goals
Kyogoat 🐐
For all wide players, I highly recommend sticking them on the opposite side dev plan (make RB’s train to become LB’s etc) as the stats that are improved change as they go up, so they’re always training the stats that make them better for their position and it works wonders - they grow so fast! Only downside is it doesn’t normally upgrade stamina, work rates and weak foot, so bare that mind.
Looking purely at overall ratings when signing has been my biggest fifa weakness. Just signing people for the name or 1 particular stat and then founding out they dont play the way you want in the role you had in mind or dont fit with the rest of the team. So hard to break that mindset tho
Another example: underrater fullbacks with less pace.
If they pass and defend well, you can use them as a modern, inverted fullback. They dont need a lot of pace, but they have to pass and defend well, as they help to build up the attack, and stop the opposition on a counter,
Would love to see a vid on failed wonderkids who could help make a lower division team into a promotion contender. Someone like an Embolo, El Sharaawy, Früchtl, etc.!
El Sharaawy is doing a great job helping Roma try to reach CL, though. He probably didn't reach the potential people envisioned he would, but he isn't "lower league", and neither is Embolo.
Training wise, the first thing i focus on is getting each player to High/High and 5*/5*, only after that's done i start looking at the stats (and usually keep it on Balance). Getting the basics in order ensures everyone's doing their job on the pitch, and i can look at who isn't able to keep up and where i need to improve the team.
For somebody who has played career to death this in depth breakdown is proper interesting for me.
I remember that when I used to play fifa 15 back in the day (played it since 2014 to 2019) my favourite striker was Przemysław Kita from Cracovia, he had only about 60ov, wasn't hight or fast. Idk why he was good but I just felt the flow of playing him in cm
I think this FIFA the most stand out player for me it Tom Rothe... LB for Dortmund, who is like 61 rated... He out played strikers and wingers, even netting like 10 goals, and picking up 13 assists in the first season
Was wondering if you had a table or something with all of the stat weights for various positions, would be helpful!
I agree.
You can do it by yourself, lazy
If you are still looking for such table I can share mine I have on gdrive, let me know
@@mateuszminota7456please do
I completely agree. There are a lot of players that never appear in RTG or rebuilds because of their overall, because the whole season is simulated.
But a question: where can I find out more about what stats different positions need? Like what are the stats that lets you determine with a 15yo Midfielder which position to convert him to, to train him up with his ideal position?
Sofifa calculator 👍
Also train the to be a LM or RM and train the opposite position so say their a LM train them RM and it will train those winger stats for that position and help them grow faster. Basically training players in wide position to the opposite side helps them grow faster so you can do this for LB RB LWB RWB LW RW
@@Sam-4777 great tip! Gotta try it
Wait, this "mechanic" was always been there since FIFA 13. I remember using 70 rated Dolly Menga and Jurgen Damm in FIFA 14.
Gonna be honest, man. I don’t watch many FIFA videos, but I’ve played a TON over the past year and a half after a 6 year hiatus from the franchise.
I love Career Mode more than any other mode & play it exclusively. I don’t watch many FIFA videos (like at all), but one of your videos showed up in my recommended tonight. This video is the 2nd of yours that I’ve watched. You’ve totally earned a sub! I don’t see many Career Mode FIFA/PES TH-camrs who actually make quality content. But, your content is FANTASTIC. I say that as a full time content creator myself. Keep it up!
in a previous fifa (fifa 20) there were two players who were insane af: oliver bias and karamkoko dembele, both were young and most important about 160cm tall and they played so good, that they as 70 rated played/performated better than their mates who had about 84 or 87, it was crazy
It depends, if it's a little difference in overall or if their both a usable rating. But a 60 rated player is not better than a 90 rated player
His point is that it's not the overall that's the difference. In career mode you can 100% have a 60 overall player that is better than a 90 overall player. It's all based on the attributes. I can have a LB but train him as a striker for 6 years to where he is as good at striker as Mbappe but is still a 60 overall LB.
Pace is everything on this game. And a reasonable amount of dribbling finishing is so assisted that if you get one on one's the stats don't matter been that way for years.
Im sorry i disagree my 37 year old dzeko drives through everyone lol
Simple. Train and grow your player based on how you want them to be, regardless of their position. I would always prefer strength and and jumping for my CMs so they can win the ball most of the time, Speed for my CBs so they can recover lose ball quick. For ST, I will always prefer to have one ST with high strength, jumping, and heading stats, while another with good dribbling stats. Most importantly, I will make sure all my younger players to have 5 start weak foot and skill moves
We need tips for people whose simulating all thier matches
Personally I think FIFA should get rid of the overall rating completely.
I also like how Strength is extremely important for the rating of CBs but does not affect RBs at all., yet you can have CB/RB because obviously these positions are similar.
Exactly, a winger with 90 pace could be 74 rated and way better than an 80 rated winger with 75 pace
Sinisterra...
I started using 72 rated Rasmus Hojlund as ST and he is playing like a 85-90 rated player! Strong 6'2" tall and fast!
Mitchell Duke on free transfer has been great as well!
And Neal Maupay on last Fifas used to punch way above his weight as well!
Calbert Lewin too bro they are op
Finally somebody says the truth. I always focused on attributes instead of overall. Although I also underestimated work rates. Thank you, it should be useful
Only signing certain work rates for certain positions has changed my career mode so much lol
i use to sign just anyone but it’s weirdly rewarding when you want 1 player, can’t have him, and end up signing another who turns out to be quality.
I am a Chelsea fan and use Chelsea in my career mode… Giroud had always been my favorite player in the past few installments… now it’s Broja
Also explained why Positions doesnt matter either. I often prefer using Center mids as my complete defensive line.
My goat in fifa 21-22 was this 65 rated Blackpool Player CJ Hamilton. I bought him in every save and he scored a stupid amount of goals as a striker. It did not matter which league. He was amazing everywhere
theres this 60 something rated guy from i think milan, his name is cristan volpato, hes been amazing in my manager career mode. and theres this left back from AZ, i think his name is like milos kerez or some shit, hes been the heart beat of everything in my attacking plays
I signed a 50 overall CB and converted him to a RW, his overall went up to 60
This is so accurate, I keep recruiting Tatsuya Itō for my saves because of how dynamic and volatile of a winger he is, peaks at around 70+ but plays better than 80+ players even if he is 32-33 y.o.
I love fifa simming it so realistic (i lost 3-0 at home to Blackburn in the first leg of the league cup semi final when i was unbeaten in every competition at the time including ucl😅)
P.s its a sim only career 😂
I respectfully disagree with the idea that stats don't matter when simming games. I don't like playing most games in CM personally. I'm more into the managerial side of it. So I simulate most of my games and only play the important ones and I once had a CM/CDM who had 99 finishing who was always my top scorer despite his defensive position. This made me believe that stats matter, at least when it comes to the finishing stat and its relation to scoring goals
Julian who used to play for Celtics. No clue where he is now but 74 rated but a monster cb just due to pure physicality
Jullien, he plays in France now.
There is nothing stronger than an extremelly fast CAM in career mode. These are absolute scoring machine. They unmarked run calls for passes and they score. I literally stopped used fast CAM because it made all my game too previsible and easy. 😂
True
I think the most important stat is stamina.
That's what i look for because a player who can't even stand in one half of a match is a pain and you can only replace 3 players.
Had a striker called Edson Costa, he was Brazilian and 70 rated, he got 40 goals for me.
if simulations were realistic, Fifa would be so clear of FM
Fifa also needs a way to view in depth stats from all leagues and all previous seasons
Nah FM is clear in every way bar graphics
FM isn't only about simulation, there's a reason people called it "spreadsheet simulator"
Bro Sebastian Villa so good to play with, everyone should try him!!!!
PES back on PS2 never had OVR. Just the attributes. That was so much better
For me Luis Sinisterra from Leeds turned into prime R9 scoring 40+ goals and 15+ assists, 3 seasons in a row before I sold him for almost 100 M, lmao only in FIFA.
My best player this year was a 6ft2 italian striker with almost max physicals and 90s for all shooting stats. He could find the top corner in almost every angle inside the box
regarding 3:14 : i have watched so many fifa 23 challenges that i can confidently say that in fifa 23, the "FOG" is more like 70%, not 0% :D
At the start of my career modes before selling all my youth players whos overall stats werent high enough, I used to play them in one game to give them an appearance. These players were always better than my starting lineup 😂
It is funny i centered my team around having Haaland. speedy crossing wingers, and CM with long shooting abilities. It is terrible.
My 170cm CM goes in the box and Haaland plays back 20-25yds out. And gets muscled off the ball by small opponents.
Nkunku, Nicolas De La Cruz, Provod, Lewis Ferguson, Bulat, Baturina, Kudus, Gnono, Lucas Moura, Urzi & Baku all play about 5-10 points above their overall, searching by total stats is the way to go
I got that with one of the youth players as well only 53 overall has 5 traits and play pretty great. Like the 3rd best performer overall.
You should make a video about sydney united. It's a Croatian club in Australia, they even had the name "Sydney Croatia" but were forced to change it.
I'm doing a youth-only save started at Exeter then moved to Cardiff. In the Prem atm my goalkeeper is 67 rated and he's a beast probably the best keeper I have used and my CM is 57 rated and has better average performance than his partner, who is 79 rated. It's really bizzare.
do you have any videos on why in almost every tactical set up cbs drop all the way into the box from the half line?
it always say’not good enough’ when i sign players lower overall with high potential.
Tom Bloxham at 64 rated was my best striker in a bournemouth career last year
Yeah, for me, too! Low overall but somehow performed very well in-game, even though he's not the quickest at all
This year also he is OP for me 😂
Radonjic is my favorite low rated player. No matter which team he’s always the best winger in my squad
I do this and I’m thriving even the potential stats are bs I got a youth player who’s potential was 77 but now he’s killing it. So I stopped making the potential judgment the end all and be all of a player
Shokurov From Fatih Karagumruk and Ampadu From La Spezia are by far some of the best midfielders I’ve used in fifa
I did career mode with man utd (all sim), and on my third season, I won everything with 0 loses. I think it is pretty realistic. The best team doesn't always win.
Tu as super bien expliqué quelque chose que je sais depuis des années et que j'ai déjà expliqué mais pas aussi bien bravo mon ami anglophone 👌❤️
Can someone give me the entire list of attributes with their weightage percentage like how they compared the CM and ST stats in this video
Try De La Cruz CM
He is an absolute beast
Complete midfielder and Folarin Balogun too
Total Beast
what Tactical vision will they fit under?
I play as Swansea City obviously as im from Swansea and i never really bother with transferring in just outs but if i can get decent price i tend to play the Swansea way and concentrate on my youth players plus i have my own created players lol obviously one of them being me and other 3 are me brothers lol
So basically put the basic development plan for all players right?
i have a 16yo 65 ovr cm bossing the mid in the pl 😂😂😂
Best cheap striker ever is Kelvin Yeboah he is a beast from the start
Xavi feels like a 85 overall in the first season as a cam or CF its op also Jesus Ferreira from FC Dallas
this is true I always get fast strikers for so cheap and they score 30 goals for me
Zivkovic was mad in fifa 15. He was 69 overall i think but played like an 80 ovr at least. Was even better when he got into the high 80’s he was basically better than messi and ronaldo
Nice using Xavi in the thumbnail! He's a beast!
I remember in fifa 22 afc Wimbledon some guy named assal I gave hime number 10 he was my Messi bruh 74 ovr but amazing as hell
Yup, i'm playing a Barcelona carrer mode, trying to create a new Messi, signed this youth player with actually low ovr something like 60, but bro feels like Nowadays Messi lol, even tho he has shitty stats n his only decent one is 80 acc n 78 ss, but he makes some deadly passes n holds the ball really well
Bro all I want to know is wtf happens to my loaned players. They get no matches but grow in random stats.
Jeffrey Schlupp is my god, he can literally play all over the pitch. He can defend he can run he can score. First name on my Bayern lineup every week
What a signing
I just start higher overall players and if theyre bad then im gonna replace them
Are the visuals messed up on this video for anyone else? The screen is mirrored and the visuals are all at a slant??
I give up with the FIFA 23 version of this game, it`s algo`s makes zero sense. I have a team in fourth tier of English league, average rating for the players is 75, the lowest being a 72 and sim`d games are always lost. Scouted the top team in the Championship (2 tiers above) and my team has a higher average rating. Team is good enough to get promotion to the EPL but sits 15th in League 2. No similar issues on FIFA 21 or 22
i only look at 5 ratings in career mode, acceleration, stamina, passing, finishing/defending and strength. The rest i dont look at
Can u do a video about what team to choose when u have a player Carrer mode , i simulate the games bc i can beat fifa on every dificulty and it s borring so i simulate , and im an 83 rated cam just transfered to Man utd and i have like 1 goal in 27 matches , and when i played for Brighton i had like 16 goals and 20 assists in 50 matches so i wonder how u choose the right team for your player
So it‘s smarter to focus on developmentplans that increase attributes which aren‘t significant to thier position and more helpful to my playingstyle since the other attributes will go up eventually with the potential?
Midfielders don’t track back anyways so I’m not sure their work rates matter tbh
Yes they do. Use a high def work rate onr
I used drop back in tactics low depth like 30 something. My players were tracking back.
Hi, just found your Channel - very good. Although I don`t play Career Mode [ I found it too easy ] ; I am interested in the ratings etc.. We all have probably found lower rated players in UT > high rated players ( maybe the match engine? ). I did think a few years back total in game stats should be better, but not really. I do think though, certain stats per position are best - maybe produce a crib sheet?. Any comments?. thx
Kevin Schade is an absolute beast
Home and away bias is bull...
Luv your videos man fr.
But fifa doesn't have a system. Just gotta keep fighting the scripts.
I've tested the sims.
Ratings don't matter
Player positions don't matter
Home and away don't matter
League position/form don't matter
Even the players don't matter.
Once simmed a game with a ST in goal because I wanted to lose on purpose.
We won and kept a clean sheet.
Keep up the good work tho. Much luv
What does using potential mean? Can you improve the work rates of academy players?
Where can I find the stat weights for different positions?
I just realized this in my new career mode lol
Only reason i look at stats is for the sim. I like to be able to sim against the really bad teams. But if im playing my youth 69 overall who has like 20 goals cause im usually playing with him in a SIM then we will lose. There is normally a player that isnt good when u play with them buy always scores in the sim. So i make sure to only play that guy for sims.
Honestly that’s not entirely true because fifas quick sim Is so random. I managed Torino and our first season our lineup was horrible and we won the league mostly simming lmao
@@Nurunigo lol weird
Raphael Guerreiro as cm is my choice, he is 88 as cm at the start (fifa 22)
Emerson Royale plays better than Trent Alexander Arnold on my Fifa22 career mode. I regret why I bought Trent.
what do you mean by retraining a player will "use up" their potential
Yeah this is great until you sim any games and the AI just ignores your set lineup
Daizen maeda is a beast for some reason
He's 73 rated
where can I see the Stat weights for each position?
How many matches should I play in my manager
career mode?
Finally someone who points it out!!!
FIFA 13, 75 rated Wissam Ben Yedder from Toulousse was a joke…
I have a created team in the Irish Premier Division. Everyone is around a 70-73 ovr except for our striker. 67 ovr, has scored 25 goals in 18 league games.
No wonder, your team ridiculously overpowers the rest of the competition 😂😂