Anybody remember Keng's out of Atlanta. They would UPS solid wood case with two spam cans of 7.62x39 I think 1200 rounds on stripper clips copper wasked steel core for $75 like 88,89. Unfortunately they got busted for trying to import full auto AK's. Turned out they had guys inside people's army!
That smell was most likely residual solvent vapor left over from the powder manufacturing process. Freshly opened cans of IMR gun powder quite often have a similar smell.
This is my preferred 7.62x39 surplus round outside of the Czech stuff. Only complaint is that those packages rip and fall apart if you give them so much a rough glance.
As far as my shooting the chinese 7.62x39 red seal(I think the red sealed was steel core) and 7.62x51 Norinco both copper washed shot lights out. Shot the 762x51 in 2 Polytech 's( the cheap ones), would shoot ,moa or better with this ammo.
I could be wrong but I believe the copper wash on the case is for "lubrication" purposes. I think the copper cases slide across themselves with less friction in the magazine and action than naked steel cases do.
Yes, that seems to be one of the benefits to copper plating, the rounds also dont leave behind coatings in the chamber of the rifle like laquer and poly coated steel do.
Would a copper wash really help against corrosion? As you said they rust pretty quick. I would think the copper might be there to help with extraction as steel cases can get pretty sticky and copper is pretty slick on steel. The bullets are often a steel jacket with a copper wash as well.
It's probably a mixture of corrosion protection and helping with extraction. And it does not come off and gum up the chamber like lacquer coating does.
Color me jealous! The quality of the current imported commercial 7.62x39 available in the US is mediocre at best. The Chinese 7.62x39 and .223 I used to shoot back in the 'good ole days' was excellent ammunition. During the late 80's and early 90's we had all that good stuff down here and it was a bargain. The cheapest I remember it was $90/1440 back in 93/94. I was young, with little money and basically lived from case to case. Some of that 'match grade' stuff in the stripper clips would shoot 2 MOA out of my Polytech AK. Once, my father squeezed a 1 1/2" 5 shot group at 200 yards with it. :( If I only had a time machine...
Wow, $90 for 1440! That's .22lr cheap. AK's shoot a lot better than most people realize, usually it's the crap ammo that makes them shoot such big groups. Years ago a buddy used to shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with his Norinco AK and hand loads with Hornady bullets.
314299 Shooting Channel That was the price for lead cored 7.62x39, before the floodgates were closed. Previously, steel core had been banned from importation because Olympic Arms had made a AR pistol in 7.62x39. No importation of what the .gov considered AP pistol ammunition. Funny how some people pay $1/round for that old Chinese ammunition, thinking that iron core makes it AP... :-/ There was some nice East German stuff available here at one time but it's dried-up too. I have 500 rounds left. The market was so glutted, at one time you could buy an SKS and a 550 round tin of ammunition on stripper clips for around $125 at gunshows! I shit you not! Nowadays, the only good mil-spec ammunition we can get here is the Yugoslavian M67 stuff. I literally have piles of it. :-)
314299 Shooting Channel Then again, how small a group do you need to shoot? Forget Minute of Angle, Comrade; you just need Minute-of-Capitalist-pig! Picture all those huge, hamburger- and hot-dog-swollen targets, waddling across the 1980s battlefield with their 5.56mm peashooters... ;)
The good old days. Here in Kali, watched SKS go for low $100's suddenly shoot up to $1500-2000 because of the upcoming 'assault' rifle ban. Almost brought one for $150, when prices jumped it wasn't worth it to me.
@Scott Buckley Ok thanks. That’s what I’ve been hearing myself. Do you clean just the main parts like barrel, bolt carrier assembly, gas tube. Or do you do a full detail strip each and every time? I just bought a crate of this ammo and wanted to make sure, thanks.
@@mouthbreather280 I take the rifle completely apart only cuz I run hot water down the barrel for couple minutes to get all the corrosive salts same with the other parts. Run a patch down tue bore few times and snake it. The trigger system I just keep oiled
Many years ago I bought two cases (4 spam cans) of this Communist Chinese made, copper washed steel cases FMJ ammo. Same vintage as in the video. This was before Russian made 7.62x39 ammunition was available in the U.S. Years later I did my own accuracy testing between the Chinese copper washed and two different brands of Russian made, (Wolf and Tula...which were both suposedly non corrosive.) I used two test rifles. A Norinco type 56 SKS, and a milled receiver Poly Tech AK. Without question the Chinese copper washed surplus ammo was more accurate, and with more consistant velocities than either commeerically made Russian 7.62x39 ammo in those two rifles. The SKS was actually a bit more accurate than the higher priced Poly Tech. Kind of ironic, because both rifles were Chinese manufacture. Too bad that further import of Norinco made firearms and ammunition was banned. I am convinced the Chinese 7.62x39 ammunition is superior to any Russian made that is commonly available here in the U.S.
The SKS has a longer barrel, and the chamber a little tighter than the AK, the AK is made for auto fire so it is made with looser tolerances, both great guns !! I would rather have the copper wash ammo also, I agree with the lacquer coating sticking in the chamber !!
Great review can't wait to see part 2 curious to see if you get any misfires, i have lighter wolf springs in my Sks norinco stuff works fine but Czech surplus take a second hit about 30 % of the time
Yup, I know what you mean. I've been wanting to get out and test a new muzzle brake Corwin-arms sent me, but with the windchill values in the -40's...it's just gonna have to wait ! LOL
Excuse me if I'm reading this wrong, but at 6:14 you have a notepad with bullet weights in grains, and you have #3 121.9 as your lowest, but #10 says 121.8.
harrison handy You are not alone, I used to have to argue with teachers over this sort of thing. Perhaps I should type my results out for greater clarity.
The vast majority of steel case ammo is Berdan primed. The rare boxer primed steel case ammo can be reloaded, I have some WW2 American made steel case .45 ACP ammo that takes large pistol primers and it reloads pretty well.
If it is surplus steel case 7.62x39 then it is corrosive. Some of the "commercial" Norinco 7.62x39 sold years ago is also corrosive, the copper-washed Norinco ammo in the yellow boxes is labeled non-corrosive but is in fact corrosive.
Thanks for the fast response. I have a bunch of this ammo, all on stripper clips. I paid about .26 cents per round. How much is it worth? I think I'd like to turn it into non-corrosive ammo.
I'm in Canada, up here it would be worth about what you paid for it. I understand that prices on it are a lot higher for it in the USA as it is no longer importable, as for exactly how much it is worth in the US I'm not informed enough to give you a useful answer. As for turning it into non-corrosive ammo I have done that, pulling the bullets and putting the powder and bullet into a boxer primed brass case, it works well enough.
Sir, I thank you for your knowledge and experience here. I acquired a few boxes. I've decided I'm going to let them be a conversation piece. Unless of course the s!#% hits the fan. Thanks again.
I have pulled the bullets on this ammo and put 123gr Hornadys in the case... everything else as delivered. The groups went from 4 MOA down to 1.25MOA, so the charges are obviously accurate, the weak link being projectile accuracy. Good ammo though... I have fired several thousand rounds of this and never had a malfunction.
That's not surprising as steel core bullets are seldom very accurate when compared to a lead core bullet, and Hornady bullets are also of pretty decent quality.
May I assume you are in Canada (based on your accent) ? Norinco ammo has been banned for importation to the United States for many years now because of the Norinco/Keng's Firearms fiasco, but I still have some of Keng's match ammo as well as some silver boxes of Norinco. I don't shoot it because it's quite rare here in the US. Thanks for the video...it's the first time I've seen this Norinco ammo reviewed...nice job!!!!! :o)
Yep, I'm in Canada. This ammo is quite common here at the moment. The lead core Norinco ammo is a lot more accurate than the steel core stuff, in my experience. The Keng's "match ammo" is lead core?
The Kengs I had as match ammo was steel core. Kengs thought you can shoot it in a match, at the gravel pit, or back 40. Anywhere you want. Just normal PS. Just to make your wallet lighter thinking you are getting something special.
That depends of if you want to know maximum effective range or just the extreme range. For military use maximum practical effective range is probably in the range of 300 meters. For hunting deer size game about 200 meters. The extreme range or maximum distance the bullet will travel is of course much more, however I am not aware of any source that cabn tell us that distance.
@@314299 3000-3100 yards for boat tail 7.62x39 mm, 123 FMJ bullet with MV~2400 ft/s, and barrel elevation ~35°. That distance was measured by Doppler radar in pretty much standard atmosphere. For flat base 7.62x39 mm, max distance was much less (2500-2600 yards)
@@314299 No problem. Supersonic air drags of BT and flat base projectiles (with same nose ogive radii) are comparable. But BT has significantly smaller drag in subsonic flight. Hence the difference.
***** No it's not regulated but a lot of Russian ammo manufacturers don't ship here. All Russian ammo here is either surplus or Barnaul with the rare bit of Wolf.
Where I live (Canada) ammo can be purchased from dealers, but only if you have a firearms license. I have no idea how buying ammo works in your part of the world.
Yes, that was an important thing to me when I was selecting this camera (JVC Everio GZ-HM430) I quite like it except that it has no microphone jack and the built in microphone does not deal well with the wind.
@@deviantsid18 ..i could if you live here in GA. .....if so comment and i'll give that info........what i got is (china north industries corporation) norinco 7.62x39 lead core steel case...banned by bill clinton in the 90s ...they were 25.99$ a box..🇺🇸
Red ring smooth cannelure=steel core. Green ring serrated cannelure=lead core. Usually Chinese plus 964 headstamp. North Korean extractor groove copper plated they plate the case after cutting extractor groove. Chinese plate then cut groove. 91=NK factory code. All reliable go bang. Clean with water, + gas system and bolt. Do not let firing pin get rusted on a sks, it will freeze forward and go quick mag empty.
@@bencool8239 Does this stuff look like sliver box Norinco? Because it's not. I have sectioned bullets from this ammo, it's steel core. I did a video on the sliver box stuff: th-cam.com/video/T-_b0wxeFg8/w-d-xo.html
Check gun shows. They way overpriced it due to steel core. Sure fire, reasonably accurate in sks/ak . Used steel core as lead would have been too expensive for billions of rounds. Unhardened core, u can cut right thru it with a hacksaw unlike true ap. Quality stuff, my 1960's still is good as is 1950's x54r. Made for them=works well. Made for us=shitty materials, falls apart within 12 months.
With brass cases being easy to get in this caliber I'm surprised that you bother reloading Berdan primed steel cases. What brand of primers do you use?
I associate steel cases with firearms made to low tolerances, ones built to withstand being treated worse than hell for extended periods of time in the field......ex AK-47/ Chinese Type 56 and SKS. Nobody cares if they scratch and burnish the fuck out of the receivers of these guns using shit steel ammo, the weapons are made for it. Western built guns like the AR-15, on the other hand, are made to tight tolerances and require good brass to operate consistently. That's not to say an AR can't cycle Wolf or Bear ammo like a champ, mine can. But it beats the fuck out of the receiver and bolt assembly running that Russian crap. Though I'm guilty of nearly ruining my first Bushmaster shooting the same stuff.
I've shot thousands upon thousands of tulammo and bear rounds out of my DPMS that I installed an Adams Arms piston kit on, and there is absolutely no wear on anything and it has never jammed one time without me shoving snow in the reciever to test its boring reliability lol
iTheGeek Of corse it's possible. The steel they make the cases out of is softened and zinc plated (galvanized). The steel grade used in the manufacture of rifle barrels is very very tough stuff, not your standard nuts and bolts type of steel. the reliability and accuracy I get with steel cased crap in my piston ar's is beyond exceeded expectations.
+iTheGeek There is a very informative article online that shows there is hardly any difference in wear on any part of the rifle shooting steel cases vs brass cases.
Hum maybe the Chinese might have improved it then. During Nam Chinese ammo didn't work very well when it gets wet. American ammo tend to function better.
Norinco AKA China North Industries makes good stuff.
I haven't heard "for shits and giggles"
in so long i nearly choked on my beer.
Anybody remember Keng's out of Atlanta. They would UPS solid wood case with two spam cans of 7.62x39 I think 1200 rounds on stripper clips copper wasked steel core for $75 like 88,89. Unfortunately they got busted for trying to import full auto AK's. Turned out they had guys inside people's army!
That's crazy
I opened a 1974 Chinese spancan last night, and there was a quite strong smell of cool menthol/pine. Any ideas?
That smell was most likely residual solvent vapor left over from the powder manufacturing process. Freshly opened cans of IMR gun powder quite often have a similar smell.
@@314299- Hey, thx for the answer I thought this was really weird...
This is my preferred 7.62x39 surplus round outside of the Czech stuff. Only complaint is that those packages rip and fall apart if you give them so much a rough glance.
Yeah, they don't look very sturdy at all.
As far as my shooting the chinese 7.62x39 red seal(I think the red sealed was steel core) and 7.62x51 Norinco both copper washed shot lights out.
Shot the 762x51 in 2 Polytech 's( the cheap ones), would shoot ,moa or better with this ammo.
I could be wrong but I believe the copper wash on the case is for "lubrication" purposes. I think the copper cases slide across themselves with less friction in the magazine and action than naked steel cases do.
Yes, that seems to be one of the benefits to copper plating, the rounds also dont leave behind coatings in the chamber of the rifle like laquer and poly coated steel do.
Would a copper wash really help against corrosion? As you said they rust pretty quick. I would think the copper might be there to help with extraction as steel cases can get pretty sticky and copper is pretty slick on steel. The bullets are often a steel jacket with a copper wash as well.
It's probably a mixture of corrosion protection and helping with extraction. And it does not come off and gum up the chamber like lacquer coating does.
I got ahold of some of this years ago and kinda liked it, I'd like to get some more.
Anybody know where, and for decent prices. Thanks in advance.
Where are you located?
Color me jealous!
The quality of the current imported commercial 7.62x39 available in the US is mediocre at best. The Chinese 7.62x39 and .223 I used to shoot back in the 'good ole days' was excellent ammunition.
During the late 80's and early 90's we had all that good stuff down here and it was a bargain. The cheapest I remember it was $90/1440 back in 93/94. I was young, with little money and basically lived from case to case. Some of that 'match grade' stuff in the stripper clips would shoot 2 MOA out of my Polytech AK. Once, my father squeezed a 1 1/2" 5 shot group at 200 yards with it. :(
If I only had a time machine...
Wow, $90 for 1440! That's .22lr cheap. AK's shoot a lot better than most people realize, usually it's the crap ammo that makes them shoot such big groups. Years ago a buddy used to shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with his Norinco AK and hand loads with Hornady bullets.
314299 Shooting Channel That was the price for lead cored 7.62x39, before the floodgates were closed. Previously, steel core had been banned from importation because Olympic Arms had made a AR pistol in 7.62x39. No importation of what the .gov considered AP pistol ammunition.
Funny how some people pay $1/round for that old Chinese ammunition, thinking that iron core makes it AP... :-/
There was some nice East German stuff available here at one time but it's dried-up too. I have 500 rounds left.
The market was so glutted, at one time you could buy an SKS and a 550 round tin of ammunition on stripper clips for around $125 at gunshows! I shit you not!
Nowadays, the only good mil-spec ammunition we can get here is the Yugoslavian M67 stuff. I literally have piles of it. :-)
314299 Shooting Channel Then again, how small a group do you need to shoot? Forget Minute of Angle, Comrade; you just need Minute-of-Capitalist-pig! Picture all those huge, hamburger- and hot-dog-swollen targets, waddling across the 1980s battlefield with their 5.56mm peashooters... ;)
+myaim07 that import ban was used to keep us from buying cheap ammo that is good and the feds don't want that at all.
The good old days. Here in Kali, watched SKS go for low $100's suddenly shoot up to $1500-2000 because of the upcoming 'assault' rifle ban. Almost brought one for $150, when prices jumped it wasn't worth it to me.
Good assessment. Question...... What was the primer's diameter?
Primers are .215" in diameter.
I've fired over 3000 rounds of this ammo in my sks and it's great and not that corrosive compared to others surplus ammo iv shot
how often do you clean it?
@@mouthbreather280 every time I'm done shooting it
@Scott Buckley Ok thanks. That’s what I’ve been hearing myself. Do you clean just the main parts like barrel, bolt carrier assembly, gas tube. Or do you do a full detail strip each and every time? I just bought a crate of this ammo and wanted to make sure, thanks.
@@mouthbreather280 I take the rifle completely apart only cuz I run hot water down the barrel for couple minutes to get all the corrosive salts same with the other parts. Run a patch down tue bore few times and snake it. The trigger system I just keep oiled
@@mouthbreather280 make sure that firing pin gets cleaned out good cuz I've seen people have slam fires and it's not good
Many years ago I bought two cases (4 spam cans) of this Communist Chinese made, copper washed steel cases FMJ ammo. Same vintage as in the video. This was before Russian made 7.62x39 ammunition was available in the U.S. Years later I did my own accuracy testing between the Chinese copper washed and two different brands of Russian made, (Wolf and Tula...which were both suposedly non corrosive.) I used two test rifles. A Norinco type 56 SKS, and a milled receiver Poly Tech AK. Without question the Chinese copper washed surplus ammo was more accurate, and with more consistant velocities than either commeerically made Russian 7.62x39 ammo in those two rifles. The SKS was actually a bit more accurate than the higher priced Poly Tech. Kind of ironic, because both rifles were Chinese manufacture. Too bad that further import of Norinco made firearms and ammunition was banned. I am convinced the Chinese 7.62x39 ammunition is superior to any Russian made that is commonly available here in the U.S.
Thanks for the interesting comment. Good lots of Chinese M43 ball are about as good a shooting surplus as you will find in the caliber.
The SKS has a longer barrel, and the chamber a little tighter than the AK, the AK is made for auto fire so it is made with looser tolerances, both great guns !! I would rather have the copper wash ammo also, I agree with the lacquer coating sticking in the chamber !!
Cool vid I love this intermediate round packs a good punch !!!
And its cheap too.
@@314299 2021 🤦🏽
Great review can't wait to see part 2 curious to see if you get any misfires, i have lighter wolf springs in my Sks norinco stuff works fine but Czech surplus take a second hit about 30 % of the time
I hope it's sure-fire. Although it's fairly old it appears to be in good physical shape.
1960's still going off fine for me.
Can you or have you compared to the Russian surplus?
Good review.
Looking forward to Part 2...
I'm hoping that we get a bit of decent weather so I can get at it.
Yup, I know what you mean.
I've been wanting to get out and test a new muzzle brake Corwin-arms sent me, but with the windchill values in the -40's...it's just gonna have to wait ! LOL
Excuse me if I'm reading this wrong, but at 6:14 you have a notepad with bullet weights in grains, and you have #3 121.9 as your lowest, but #10 says 121.8.
Nope, #10 says 121.9. #3 and #10 were both 121.9 grains. Compare 8) if you want to see what my "8" looks like.
Oh okay, now I'm clear. :)
harrison handy
You are not alone, I used to have to argue with teachers over this sort of thing. Perhaps I should type my results out for greater clarity.
Why don't folks reload steel cases? (assuming not berdan primed)
The vast majority of steel case ammo is Berdan primed. The rare boxer primed steel case ammo can be reloaded, I have some WW2 American made steel case .45 ACP ammo that takes large pistol primers and it reloads pretty well.
314299 Shooting Channel thanks, am just getting into the whole reloading thing.
Great video sir, well explained and I learned some new facts.
Glad you liked it.
BI-metallic M43 ball ammo. How easy is that asphalt sealant to clean out of your barrel? I just purchased 1200 rounds of 5.56 from CndAmmo.
Your regular bore cleaner (Hoppes, etc) will dissolve it easily.
I have some of this copper washed ammo. It's stamped 31 over 92. Do you know if the primers in this ammo is corrosive? Thanks.
If it is surplus steel case 7.62x39 then it is corrosive. Some of the "commercial" Norinco 7.62x39 sold years ago is also corrosive, the copper-washed Norinco ammo in the yellow boxes is labeled non-corrosive but is in fact corrosive.
Thanks for the fast response. I have a bunch of this ammo, all on stripper clips. I paid about .26 cents per round. How much is it worth? I think I'd like to turn it into non-corrosive ammo.
I'm in Canada, up here it would be worth about what you paid for it. I understand that prices on it are a lot higher for it in the USA as it is no longer importable, as for exactly how much it is worth in the US I'm not informed enough to give you a useful answer. As for turning it into non-corrosive ammo I have done that, pulling the bullets and putting the powder and bullet into a boxer primed brass case, it works well enough.
Sir, I thank you for your knowledge and experience here. I acquired a few boxes. I've decided I'm going to let them be a conversation piece. Unless of course the s!#% hits the fan. Thanks again.
I have pulled the bullets on this ammo and put 123gr Hornadys in the case... everything else as delivered. The groups went from 4 MOA down to 1.25MOA, so the charges are obviously accurate, the weak link being projectile accuracy. Good ammo though... I have fired several thousand rounds of this and never had a malfunction.
That's not surprising as steel core bullets are seldom very accurate when compared to a lead core bullet, and Hornady bullets are also of pretty decent quality.
Hornady sets a standard for bullet precision. Not the highest standard but its a start.
May I assume you are in Canada (based on your accent) ?
Norinco ammo has been banned for importation to the United States for many years now because of the Norinco/Keng's Firearms fiasco, but I still have some of Keng's match ammo as well as some silver boxes of Norinco. I don't shoot it because it's quite rare here in the US.
Thanks for the video...it's the first time I've seen this Norinco ammo reviewed...nice job!!!!! :o)
Yep, I'm in Canada. This ammo is quite common here at the moment. The lead core Norinco ammo is a lot more accurate than the steel core stuff, in my experience. The Keng's "match ammo" is lead core?
The Kengs I had as match ammo was steel core. Kengs thought you can shoot it in a match, at the gravel pit, or back 40. Anywhere you want. Just normal PS. Just to make your wallet lighter thinking you are getting something special.
Any info about its muzzle velocity or muzzle energy ?
Please see part two with link as shown in the video description.
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That depends of if you want to know maximum effective range or just the extreme range. For military use maximum practical effective range is probably in the range of 300 meters. For hunting deer size game about 200 meters. The extreme range or maximum distance the bullet will travel is of course much more, however I am not aware of any source that cabn tell us that distance.
@@314299 3000-3100 yards for boat tail 7.62x39 mm, 123 FMJ bullet with MV~2400 ft/s, and barrel elevation ~35°. That distance was measured by Doppler radar in pretty much standard atmosphere. For flat base 7.62x39 mm, max distance was much less (2500-2600 yards)
@@imeprezime1285I'm a little late in seeing your comment but thanks for that interesting info.
@@314299 No problem. Supersonic air drags of BT and flat base projectiles (with same nose ogive radii) are comparable. But BT has significantly smaller drag in subsonic flight. Hence the difference.
Is it cheaper then Russian Ammo?
We rarely have any Russian made ammo for sale around here, so it's hard to say. This was $225 a case.
***** No it's not regulated but a lot of Russian ammo manufacturers don't ship here. All Russian ammo here is either surplus or Barnaul with the rare bit of Wolf.
Dont trust anyone who read Marx who stamps non corrosive on the box.
How make to buy this ammo package?
Where I live (Canada) ammo can be purchased from dealers, but only if you have a firearms license. I have no idea how buying ammo works in your part of the world.
Great video. That camera's got some good macro capability.
Yes, that was an important thing to me when I was selecting this camera (JVC Everio GZ-HM430) I quite like it except that it has no microphone jack and the built in microphone does not deal well with the wind.
How are you getting this stuff? It's been banned from importation since the 1990's.
It's not banned from importation into Canada.
Just bought a box today Trump2020!
@@bencool8239 could you direct me to where you bought that? How much did it cost?
@@deviantsid18 ..i could if you live here in GA. .....if so comment and i'll give that info........what i got is (china north industries corporation) norinco 7.62x39 lead core steel case...banned by bill clinton in the 90s ...they were 25.99$ a box..🇺🇸
@@bencool8239 wow thats crazy. I wish i wouldve bought that back in the day if only i knew lol
How much per 20 rounds?
At the time of purchase it was about $4 per 20 rounds.
@@314299 Haha good old days. Now its almost 60 cents per round here in Canada.
Had no problems except on how to open the can, only took me 5 minutes though
Are these corrosive?
Yes, they are.
Very comprehensive video. Thanks.
Thanks for checking the video out.
when were they banned?
Larry Sledge they were banned in the 90s because there is a steel core and it's considered armor piercing.
Mild steel, not hardened core. Not ap.
the United States banned Norinco from sales because the weapons firm. The U.S. accused the firm of trying to sell illegal firearms here
just picked some up today ( a dollar per round)
Ouch.
2021🤷🏽
All things considered compared to regular ball rounds 1$ not that bad
Just bought 50 boxes from someone who needed $$$ ! Thanks for info,was trying to get an idea as to how much this ammo is selling for!
Lets see if factory 81 is good as factory 61 :)
Go factory 81!
314299 Shooting Channel Capitalist infiltration I say, selling their ammo for profit!!!! Re-education camps for them.
***** Now they probably make the shoes they sell at Wal-Mart..
I have some copper washed stuff with the red ring around it. (Between the bullet and case) I have two tins of it. Any idea what that might be?
Mike Yerke it's probably Chinese. See if there are two numbers on the back of the bottom one is the year it was manufactured
I'd assume it keeps the 7.62x39's powder dry.
Red ring smooth cannelure=steel core. Green ring serrated cannelure=lead core. Usually Chinese plus 964 headstamp. North Korean extractor groove copper plated they plate the case after cutting extractor groove. Chinese plate then cut groove. 91=NK factory code. All reliable go bang. Clean with water, + gas system and bolt. Do not let firing pin get rusted on a sks, it will freeze forward and go quick mag empty.
Is it steel core
Yes, steel core.
@@314299 lead core
@@bencool8239 No, it is steel core.
@@314299 umm no i bought some boxes 2day..silver box: steel case , lead core....
@@bencool8239 Does this stuff look like sliver box Norinco? Because it's not. I have sectioned bullets from this ammo, it's steel core. I did a video on the sliver box stuff: th-cam.com/video/T-_b0wxeFg8/w-d-xo.html
Where'd you find it?
This ammo was imported into Canada by CanadaAmmo.
314299 Shooting Channel NICE VID. ASH fault = Canadian ,along with LEFF tenent.LOL Now IVE GOT THE ACCENT...... BKLYN. LOL
Ray Hansen
Doing my part to bring correct pronunciation to the world...
This stuff doesn't look to bad, I am interested in how it performs!
Me too!
awhh i wish i can get some of those steel core chinese ammo in US to bad we can't :(
That's funny because we can
Check gun shows. They way overpriced it due to steel core. Sure fire, reasonably accurate in sks/ak . Used steel core as lead would have been too expensive for billions of rounds. Unhardened core, u can cut right thru it with a hacksaw unlike true ap. Quality stuff, my 1960's still is good as is 1950's x54r. Made for them=works well. Made for us=shitty materials, falls apart within 12 months.
I believe you need a mic, I can't hear you that clear
+RockerGuy0001 The volume is fine here. I think the issue is at your end.
+314299 Shooting Channel
You're right. It's perfect on my table
Call me what you like, I have reloaded them 10 times. And can in a pitch generate more for continued work.
With brass cases being easy to get in this caliber I'm surprised that you bother reloading Berdan primed steel cases. What brand of primers do you use?
Good information to know.
Don't forget to shoot it for the fun factor lol
Perhaps an evil laugh as I shoot?
*****
Most likely it will be shot from an SKS.
314299 Shooting Channel Let me show you it’s features! Ha ha ha
I have some dated 1967.
Is it working OK for you?
@314299 I haven't shot any because it's corrosive and I just don't want to fool with it just yet.
I'll have to dig some out to see...will get back to you. :o)
Cz527 spits these out @ .5moa @25 meters for what that's worth
The CZ527 is certainly a nice rifle.
Cool video but watching grass grow was funnier
Hopefully you were not expecting explosions and naked women....
good vid thanks
Thanks.
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Thanks.
I associate steel cases with firearms made to low tolerances, ones built to withstand being treated worse than hell for extended periods of time in the field......ex AK-47/ Chinese Type 56 and SKS. Nobody cares if they scratch and burnish the fuck out of the receivers of these guns using shit steel ammo, the weapons are made for it. Western built guns like the AR-15, on the other hand, are made to tight tolerances and require good brass to operate consistently. That's not to say an AR can't cycle Wolf or Bear ammo like a champ, mine can. But it beats the fuck out of the receiver and bolt assembly running that Russian crap. Though I'm guilty of nearly ruining my first Bushmaster shooting the same stuff.
I've shot thousands upon thousands of tulammo and bear rounds out of my DPMS that I installed an Adams Arms piston kit on, and there is absolutely no wear on anything and it has never jammed one time without me shoving snow in the reciever to test its boring reliability lol
iTheGeek Of corse it's possible. The steel they make the cases out of is softened and zinc plated (galvanized). The steel grade used in the manufacture of rifle barrels is very very tough stuff, not your standard nuts and bolts type of steel. the reliability and accuracy I get with steel cased crap in my piston ar's is beyond exceeded expectations.
iTheGeek Hmm... not sure man. My boar and rifling look brand new after thousands of rounds
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There is a very informative article online that shows there is hardly any difference in wear on any part of the rifle shooting steel cases vs brass cases.
AK 47
Hum maybe the Chinese might have improved it then. During Nam Chinese ammo didn't work very well when it gets wet. American ammo tend to function better.