@@314299 Well that’s not much different then now. 1500 in Canada are $400, or $295 USD. So it’s really only gone up inflation rate during the last 8 years. Now 20 years ago it was crazy cheap
It says that is 7.62mm Normal type (steel). That is for type 56 (Chinese type AK47). On the right it says 2/1 boxes, made about 1985 product by No. 16 factory. I was served in Chinese army for 3 years, I think those are reserve ammo cause back in my days there only one big metal case inside the wood box. We used to keep the ammo that says "2/1" and used "1/1" which is only has one case inside.
Used to be $99.00 per crate like that. That was my America. Id get 2 crates at a time. It was nothing unusual to each shoot 300 rounds off on a weekend. We all had AK's that were preban semi autos , and like 30 30 round mags for them. Now all thats gone, and most of my old pals have passed . Everything about today makes me sick when i think of how things used to be .
We never had 7.62x39 quite that cheap up here, but I have bought it for $180 a crate (Czech surplus). I agree the present does not compare very well with the past and the future looks even worse....
@@314299down here in the mid 80's if you bought a 69$ sks you could get a crate or 2 with the purchase if there was a lot of sks up for sale at that show. The cheapest I remember being able to buy a case of ammo was 39$ or 49$ not sure which its been a long time ago
Here is the BETTER translation! (hope your system can indicate Chinese characters!) 7.62普(钢): 7.62 Ball Ammunition(steel). Usually, the "steel" means "bimetal". If the character is “钢涂”， it means "lacquer-coated". It's rare to find "铜" (copper). 56式: Type 56. There are three Type 56 weapons: Type 56 semiautomatic rifle (SKS), Type 56 "submachine gun" (AK), and Type 56 LMG (RPD). They all use 7.62×39mm ammo. 750发: 750rds 2/1樟16/67-85: This line is the info of the powder. "2/1樟" is the name of powder, meaning the powder has one through-hole and been treated with 樟脑 (camphor). The "burning layer" is about 0.2mm thick. "16/67-85" means LOT 16, year 67, factory 85. 15-82-61: the production date, LOT 15, year 82 factory 61.
War Dogs, Apparently: Change the packaging and VOILA, nobody thinks it’s Chinese Ammunition and with that, it can somehow circumvent the ban or some shit like that. Only problem, he didn’t pay the box guy because the idiot apparently got TOO GREEDY for his own good and because of that, they got busted by the Feds. End of Story
This video makes me so emotional. I remember going to gun shows and buying these for $99.00. Actually the ones I use to buy were 1750 rounds. Great Blamo!!
Bush Sr. signed the late 80’s Chinese arms ban. His son extended the ban. Also why would you want to support a totalitarian communist government that routinely jails and murders dissidents and whose arms industry (Norinco) was caught selling and even giving arms away to American street gangs, Marxist extremist organizations, and far left revolutionaries to destabilize America and the West?
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but there is a Chinese rifle with a 30-round magazine with a spring that gives out eventually if you put all 30 rounds in it. The way I hear it, if you only put in 25 rounds, the mag spring lasts and lasts.
Chinese mil-surp ammunition was cheaper to buy than .22LR back in the 1980's. They used corrosive mercuric Berdan primers, which have an incredible shelf life when the ammunition is stored under proper conditions. Most surplus firearms chambered for the 7.62 X 39MM round, like the SKS (except the Yugo variants), have chrome plated chambers & bores, so the use of corrosive ammunition is mitigated.
The 56 stands for the bullet tip to bolt-face length of the ammunition. They're actually 7.62x56. The longer 7.62x54r machine gun ammo is 7.62x77(/78) and so-on. the western method of listing the cartridge chamber size made more sense so the rest of the world started using it but some of the old labeling dies very very hard. There are some packages still made in Europe that still list the 56mm as well. Also you'll see Czech 7.62x45 labeled "59"
In fact the word"56式" on the wood box means the ammo type but not the rifle. There are at least 3 kinds of rifle and ammunition named in "56式". For ammunition "56式" means the chinese type 7.62x39mm, it has copper jacket, soft steel core(it is cheaper, can save lead and more easy to manufacture) and steel shell casing(to save copper, and the shell casing are covered with a little copper to prevent rust). For rifles we call sks "56半"（full name ist 56式半自动步枪，type56 semi-auto rifle）. And the ak47(not AKM. At the age akm was designed, the relationship between China and USSR became really bad so it is impossible for China to get AKM design) are called 56冲 (full name is 56式冲锋枪，type56 SMG). There are two reasons why ak47 was called SMG in China. Firstly, ak47 took the place of PPS-43 SMG in china army so the new weapon(ak47) in solders' hands is called SMG. Secondly , the concept of assault rifle is really really late imported into China(about 1970s oder 1980s i think) thats all and i like your videos ;)
agreed. bought my first SKS in 96 and shot a bunch of the copperwashed stuff....dirty as all get out. But then again so is the bear brand ammo. Just a side effect of bargain shooting :)
I used to shoot plenty from AK47 in my army time. It was 1975-77. But my ammo was always lacquered in dark green. Never have seen metal shells like those you got.
As I understand it most European and Soviet made ammo was in lacquer coated steel cases, the lacquer made the cartridge cases grey, green or brown color. Most of the Chinese 7.62x39 ammo I have seen has the copper coated steel cases like those in the video.
Good stuff. Seems like the 1980's production is not as corrosive. Very snappy ammo. I was given a half a tin last year and was pretty impressed by the accuracy considering its steel core. I still can't get over the cat pee like smell. I'm curious to see what the powder charge is.
+nrainfidelforlife Sounds like you had a reasonably positive experience with it, I hope the accuracy is at least OK, but I have low expectations for any surplus ammo.
That is the great thing about military ammo using Berdan primers. They have an incredibly long life, especially if the ammunition is stored under good conditions.
I find it easy to roll the opener down one side to get a good tight roll on the key then just pull around in a circle the rest of the way. It's probably a little dangerous as it's sharp! But faster if you're impatient like me.
Hi, I know about that Chinese ammo box says. The military reference a lot of Soviet Union arms system to build Chinese system, so in alot of things ,they didn't have much different. In wood box, line1,"7.62普（钢）" means 7.62毫米普通步枪弹（钢芯）, on English is 7.62mm normal ammunition with steel core (this sounds like armor-piercer bullet, but is not ,they just like FMJ ammo, normal, and lot being use day by day....) line2, "56式“ means type 56 line3, yes, "发" means contain how much round inside. and in wood box right line1,can't see it ,but they should by same like spam can ,"2/1 樟 16/67-85" ,2/1樟 means two can in this camphor wood box , and I'm sure with next, they probably means ammo cartridge material batch number. line2, "15-82-61"means this wood box in 1982 by factory code name 61 manufactured, batch number is 15 line3, "全重30公斤“，means this ammo with wood box, Wight 30 kg. ps.all this ammo look like made by copper, but is not, ther just have copper coating, inside they made by steel, China didn't like US have a lot copper resources , so .....ues steel ceas , steel bullet, will make ammo be chiper, outside copper coating give that ammo work like copper ammo, but it ues in non-China type weapon, sometime cause Jams. In new type ,like type87(DPB87) ,we still use steel cease, didn't coated with copper,but coated with paint...... and they do this with type 56 too...
(=_=;)sorry ,in right line1, "I'm sure with" .....should be "I'm not sure....".......look like you already figure out all this things...... when I typing, vid time just 2:38.......(・・;)
Look forward to the review after range testing. I'm down to under 2 crates of Romanian and a half crate of Czech, so will have to stock up again before too long...
I'm guessing that you mean an SKS? Perhaps the SKS "D" rifle that took AK mags? There were 25 round AK style mags sold back then, they were Chinese and were originally intended for the Chinese Type 63/68 rifle.
got me all excited for nothing I knew this had to be an old post. I got ahold of some Vietnam issue cans sold them when they banned the so-called armor-piercing rounds. It was the best day of my life. I bought 3 cans for 30 dollars at a flea market, sold them for 750.00 at a gun show. great day
Till those stupid asses over at olypic arms made that stupid pistol , and clinton banned importation of that ammo ,heck it was as low as $75.00 for 1550{ the lowest i ever saw } , oly arms was told dont do it and yep ,dumbasses ,glad they went under ,overpriced trash.
I couldn't stop thinking about repackaging it and smuggling it across the US border, claiming it was legal ammo. Claiming it's my own ammo grandfathered in by having been imported to US prior to the import ban. Or even denying that it's Chinese. That's if caught, of course. People cross the border to buy cheap booze in Canada all the time, also to bypass the embargo on Cuban cigars, so why not cross over to buy cheap ammo? Yeah, yeah, it's probably illegal to bring it in. Even though it's entirely legal to own once it's across.
You ladies/gents in Canada are really fortunate with some ammo prices, and the fairly recent good retail prices for very nice examples of the Russian SKS. However....the need to clean any of my four imported AKs the same day after using corrosive ammo makes such nice ammo prices unappealing. I'm glad that you are allowed to buy a VZ-58 in 7.62x39, despite AKs being banned.
Well I heard you talking about an "AK " But we can not use them or be in possession of an AK- Kalashnikov...(In Canada)... So Yes , We can use the "SKS" Riffle making this a cheap and aford able round because it "SKS" & Most of the ammo is coming from China now... So it is cheaper .. That looks like a good box!!! Right On !!! Happy Shooting in 2016 Thanks.
+Gungeek Yes, they must have got clear of all that old crap. Ironically the ammo meant to be used against the "Imperialist dogs" is being sold to them instead.
I know someone who has a Ruger M77 in 7.62x39 and he tested dozens of different ammo. In the end he told me the Chinese surplus ammo was the most accurate. I don't know if he was shooting that same stuff you have though.
+Prepare2Survive Chinese lead core 7.62x39 is pretty good stuff accuracy wise, however this is steel core so i doubt it will be anything special for accuracy.
Odd that it's not in stripper clips. That suggests to me that this was meant for the AK variant rifle with detachable mags instead of the SKS with the top load 10 rounds mag.
It was cheaper to buy a brand new SKS carbine & military surplus ammo than to buy a .22 rimfire rifle & .22 LR ammunition. Hell had frozen over. Then Bill Clinton walked among us, & hell returned with a fury.
For the Chinese corrosive ammo? Tenda Canada just had the non corrosive 1000 round bulk on for 339 Canadian. Usually see the corrosive going on sale for 300 for 1500 every now and then.
Good! Still... How do you manage to buy ammo from the Third country like China? And, how do you import ammo? Do you have specific licence or allowance for that?
As a consumer I did not have to import anything, I simply went into the store, showed my firearms license, paid for the ammo and left. The importation and any associated permits, etc, would have been handled presumably by Cabella's or their agents.
When I bought this years ago it was on clips and the clips loaded into an SKS. Rifle with bayonet, new with bandoleer, cleaning kit, oilier and sling was 79$. With 1 crate of ammo less than $125. Unfortunately our right to bear arms un-infringed here in the US has become up for interpretation. Everything from zipcode to origin of arms has been used to restrict, tax and infringe our rights.
+314299 Shooting Channel I bought a lot of 7.62 x 39 (several cases) on stripper clips in the early 90's here in the US. They came packed with 30 rounds (3 clips of course) packed in that brown paper wrapper then packed in spam cans.
Mine was corrosive also. Still it worked and other than an immediate clean up having to happen it was decent enough stripped with bandoleers. I believe they were dated in the 1950s/60s Ammo they neglected to use in Korea and Vietnam?
I bought it in all sorts of case/package configurations back in the 1980s. I even scored a good bit of this type of ammo in 7.62 x 51 NATO in 300 round tins on 5 rd M14 strippers
Did you ever upload a video of when you pulled the bullets? The reloading stuff is really interesting to me. Or was it just like the Norinco so you didn't bother.
Nice informative video.... But damn I'm jealous !!!! If almost everything else here in the US is made in China, why can't we get firearms and ammunition??? Oh well... At least we still have Tula and Wolf. Love your channel. Take off eh
+Joey P I would say it boils down to your government and your domestic arms and ammo industries not wanting the cheap imports of Chinese guns and ammo to continue, there was a time that Chinese guns and ammo were cheap and widely available in the USA.
One reason we don’t get Chinese guns is: the Chinese can make the Ak47 and it’s variants for about $150.00 verses our money grubbing arms dealers have to charge the govt about $900.00 to over $1000.00 per copy for the AR16 variation No.4. I hate it, you hate it, everyone hates it!
@@HenauderTitzauf the Chinese ak was only that cheap cause they were demobilizing reserves militia and large amount of regular infantry in the 80s to 90s.
I think this is for the Chinese version of the RPD. If I remember correctly, the Chinese RPD belt consists of four pieces, each containing 25 rounds, unlike the Soviet one, which consists of two belts, each containing 50 rounds.
I think this is the long term storage ammo there is a case that is one big can with a wire pull to open it also the 25 round boxes point at this being reserve ammo
I love your videos! you're like the Canadian version of Hickok45. I wish I had a collection like you! I've only had my PAL since Oct 2015 just starting my collection slowly.
The PLA Red Chinese ammunition can looks like it was designed for a left-handed person to open. The host has to awkwardly use his left hand to twist the key.
These are very much sought after ammo too, light armor piercing. I got some from the Vietnam war time, The advantage in that war the communist has this light armor piercing that zip through very wide trees and a lot of brush, While the Americans 5.56 would go into3 inch's of brush. I tested the stuff I had and it went through a tree trunk as wide as my chest with no problems.
@@dragdragon23 I remember back in the 80’s at a gun show, new SKS rifles were selling for $69 each… and if you bought a case of this ammo for $150, they gave you a rifle… no joke! Bill Clinton came along and in 1994 stopped all importation of Chinese AK’s, SKS and Chinese ammo. As to the Korean firearm sell-back… that is coming to an end soon.
@@nigel900 very true! the price of the ammo was cheaper at 80 bucks a case. We always say it'll be here next time and it's not. Could of stocked up on the ammo big time! Remember the on side business that sprong up selling extra's for the SKS rifle. I bought SKS with a fiberglass stock, folding front legs, scope with rifle a hundred bucks. I seen so many trucks with SKS rifles in their back window was amazing, but not now!
No, they were selling 7.62x54mmR M91 Russian, the Soviet Union's standard rifle and machinegun round. It was packed in a similar crate but in a different type of ammo can.
How exactly is the number of 5.56 is an ammo crate related to the number of 7.62x39 in an ammo crate? They are different in size, and I'm guessing made in a different country an packaged in a different size ammo can?
Thank you for showing how to open this candy box. I'm getting the 1100 case with stripe clips and after that I'm getting this one which will be cheaper
25 rounds per package makes perfect sense. 25 divides into 750 perfectly. If there were 20 rounds per package you would be left with 10 rounds in one package. Aside from that how did they shoot in terms of accuracy and reliability?
Package size for military ammo generally has some relationship to the assigned load-out for soldiers and the mag size. I am not aware of any 25 round magazines for 7.62x39 Chinese issue rifles. As for shooting this ammo there is a video linked in the video description.
If you are ever without snips use two crescent wrenches closed right down on the strap side by side then pull them the opposite direction it's crazy easy
We get those alot in mexico pro tip when opening the can just wind the handle 3 times then just pull the ribbon around the can the rest of the way it's way faster, also its pretty handy for loading 75 round drums for rpk
One million views! WOW. Thanks to everyone who watched, commented and rated the video.
Your awesome
Just wondering the price of this 8 years ago?
@@gcanada3005 $250.00.
@@314299 Well that’s not much different then now. 1500 in Canada are $400, or $295 USD. So it’s really only gone up inflation rate during the last 8 years. Now 20 years ago it was crazy cheap
It says that is 7.62mm Normal type (steel). That is for type 56 (Chinese type AK47). On the right it says 2/1 boxes, made about 1985 product by No. 16 factory. I was served in Chinese army for 3 years, I think those are reserve ammo cause back in my days there only one big metal case inside the wood box. We used to keep the ammo that says "2/1" and used "1/1" which is only has one case inside.
+Niko M Thanks for the info.
Is this ammo steel core??? I thought there was an import ban on Chinese ammo??? Hummm
+jason127x99 ohhhh! Canada that explains it.
jason127x99 I suppose it means steel shell case. Chinese on wooden box doesn't say it's armor piercing
Niko 👍👍👍
Soldier 1: LAST MAG, LAST MAG!
Soldier 2: Standby, looking for my can opener.
@AKUJIRULE No shit.
Still better than jammed m16.
You need to say all that in Chinese.
@@314299 士兵一：没子弹了，没子弹了。
士兵二：等等, 目前正在寻找我的开罐器。
Used to be $99.00 per crate like that. That was my America. Id get 2 crates at a time. It was nothing unusual to each shoot 300 rounds off on a weekend. We all had AK's that were preban semi autos , and like 30 30 round mags for them. Now all thats gone, and most of my old pals have passed . Everything about today makes me sick when i think of how things used to be .
We never had 7.62x39 quite that cheap up here, but I have bought it for $180 a crate (Czech surplus). I agree the present does not compare very well with the past and the future looks even worse....
you're kidding me man i wish i had that
@@314299down here in the mid 80's if you bought a 69$ sks you could get a crate or 2 with the purchase if there was a lot of sks up for sale at that show.
The cheapest I remember being able to buy a case of ammo was 39$ or 49$ not sure which its been a long time ago
Here is the BETTER translation! (hope your system can indicate Chinese characters!)
7.62普(钢): 7.62 Ball Ammunition(steel). Usually, the "steel" means "bimetal". If the character is “钢涂”， it means "lacquer-coated". It's rare to find "铜" (copper).
56式: Type 56. There are three Type 56 weapons: Type 56 semiautomatic rifle (SKS), Type 56 "submachine gun" (AK), and Type 56 LMG (RPD). They all use 7.62×39mm ammo.
750发: 750rds
2/1樟16/67-85: This line is the info of the powder. "2/1樟" is the name of powder, meaning the powder has one through-hole and been treated with 樟脑 (camphor). The "burning layer" is about 0.2mm thick. "16/67-85" means LOT 16, year 67, factory 85.
15-82-61: the production date, LOT 15, year 82 factory 61.
Thanks very much for the detailed information.
wangl601 the ak is not a sub machine gun, sub machine guns shoot pistol rounds . I am ok to be corrected if I am wrong.....
Damn son...
How long can you store this ammo before it expires?
Yaroslav Sokruta learn Chinese
*_Nice Hiss! Let's get this out onto a Tray. Nice! :D_*
Lmao , rations?
Steve1989mreinfo
Hm’kay
Steve!!!!
How did we all end up here.
Spam can hack: cut off "handle" end of opener, chuck up stub end in adjustable chuck drill, attach to opening wire, proceed to speed open ammo can.
what
@@uuuultra put the opener in a drill.
uuuultra ✔️ ok
Running torque would likely twist the key in half if not careful 😉
What if we repack? 🤔
War dogs! I thought of that too!
War Dogs, Apparently:
Change the packaging and VOILA, nobody thinks it’s Chinese Ammunition and with that, it can somehow circumvent the ban or some shit like that.
Only problem, he didn’t pay the box guy because the idiot apparently got TOO GREEDY for his own good and because of that, they got busted by the Feds.
End of Story
Yeah, great movie.
👍
30 packs x 25 per pack is 750, or 375 rounds per can. i thought there was 1500 rounds
普=normal
钢=steel
式=type
发=round
樟=tree type ？
Thanks for the info.
樟 is the wood of the case
No that character is also used for wood. Chinese uses the same word for multiple meanings even if they are simple.
@@christianewing1113 樟 is the pictogram for "Camphor". Early smokeless powder used camphor oil, so "Camphor" is used to represent smokeless powder.
Tree type u mean vietnam tree talker ammo
2:40
On each cans :
7.62 Normal (Steel) | 2/1 Box 16/87-85
Type 56
750 rounds | 15-62-61
I can't even remember how many times I have watched this, I wish I could find one of these crates now in 2021
These guys still have it in stock: leverarms.com/shop/featured-products/1500-rounds-of-chinese-military-surplus-brown-laquer-case-7-62x39-fmj-2/
@@314299 sadly I'm in the u.s.
I saw big pile at Cabelas Edmonton, South
5:18 No hiss... 👎
You've been watching Steve's MRE channel... haven't you.😂
Lol love that channel.
This video makes me so emotional. I remember going to gun shows and buying these for $99.00. Actually the ones I use to buy were 1750 rounds. Great Blamo!!
I did not think they could get that many rounds in a case. Same size or bigger box?
@@314299 think he means a pallet of your cases
I used to buy crated Chinese 7.62 x 39 for 8 cents a round before Clinton killed it--skumbag
...which one?
GeckoProductions Both.
Bush Sr. signed the late 80’s Chinese arms ban. His son extended the ban. Also why would you want to support a totalitarian communist government that routinely jails and murders dissidents and whose arms industry (Norinco) was caught selling and even giving arms away to American street gangs, Marxist extremist organizations, and far left revolutionaries to destabilize America and the West?
adjusted for inflation that 8 cents is .18 today
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Norinco sold arms to American street gangs? That's not good.
Normally the PLA only load 25 round into the magazines to extend the spring life
I’ve had magazines fully loaded for 30 years that work flawlessly.
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but there is a Chinese rifle with a 30-round magazine with a spring that gives out eventually if you put all 30 rounds in it. The way I hear it, if you only put in 25 rounds, the mag spring lasts and lasts.
This is what Trump calls Fake News
I am officially envious. We need some of that stuff here in the U.S.
+ditto1958 no you don't :)
+ditto1958 I bought one of these crates in Cabelas Canada in boxing week $171.29 USA Dollars.
Vaping Ruben for 1500 rounds that VERY cheap man
Chinese mil-surp ammunition was cheaper to buy than .22LR back in the 1980's. They used corrosive mercuric Berdan primers, which have an incredible shelf life when the ammunition is stored under proper conditions. Most surplus firearms chambered for the 7.62 X 39MM round, like the SKS (except the Yugo variants), have chrome plated chambers & bores, so the use of corrosive ammunition is mitigated.
@@Gungeek yes we do
One hell of an unboxing video
Thanks.
762(common) steel ammo
Type 56
750 rds
That is what it says
The 56 stands for the bullet tip to bolt-face length of the ammunition. They're actually 7.62x56. The longer 7.62x54r machine gun ammo is 7.62x77(/78) and so-on. the western method of listing the cartridge chamber size made more sense so the rest of the world started using it but some of the old labeling dies very very hard. There are some packages still made in Europe that still list the 56mm as well. Also you'll see Czech 7.62x45 labeled "59"
That is interesting. Do you have any sources/references from where you got that information? I have never heard that before.
In fact the word"56式" on the wood box means the ammo type but not the rifle. There are at least 3 kinds of rifle and ammunition named in "56式". For ammunition "56式" means the chinese type 7.62x39mm, it has copper jacket, soft steel core(it is cheaper, can save lead and more easy to manufacture) and steel shell casing(to save copper, and the shell casing are covered with a little copper to prevent rust).
For rifles we call sks "56半"（full name ist 56式半自动步枪，type56 semi-auto rifle）.
And the ak47(not AKM. At the age akm was designed, the relationship between China and USSR became really bad so it is impossible for China to get AKM design) are called 56冲 (full name is 56式冲锋枪，type56 SMG). There are two reasons why ak47 was called SMG in China. Firstly, ak47 took the place of PPS-43 SMG in china army so the new weapon(ak47) in solders' hands is called SMG. Secondly , the concept of assault rifle is really really late imported into China(about 1970s oder 1980s i think)
thats all and i like your videos ;)
Thanks for the comprehensive comment.
Wish my local cabelas would get some of this. Good stuff there
+imperialfragments Are you in the USA?
+314299 Shooting Channel
Yeah, you damn Canadians and your chinese stuff.
+Charles T Ha!
+314299 Shooting Channel Yes I am, In Idaho
agreed. bought my first SKS in 96 and shot a bunch of the copperwashed stuff....dirty as all get out. But then again so is the bear brand ammo. Just a side effect of bargain shooting :)
just think the air trapped in there, was from all those years ago.
random thought for the day
;)
I hope I didn't catch communism from breathing it.
cs512tr I thought spam cans were vacuum sealed?
I remember forty years ago, opening the surplus ammo cans, and wondering if that stench was what Vietnam smells like....
Imagine if one of those cans have the black death in there😅😅
I used to shoot plenty from AK47 in my army time. It was 1975-77. But my ammo was always lacquered in dark green. Never have seen metal shells like those you got.
As I understand it most European and Soviet made ammo was in lacquer coated steel cases, the lacquer made the cartridge cases grey, green or brown color. Most of the Chinese 7.62x39 ammo I have seen has the copper coated steel cases like those in the video.
Good stuff. Seems like the 1980's production is not as corrosive. Very snappy ammo. I was given a half a tin last year and was pretty impressed by the accuracy considering its steel core. I still can't get over the cat pee like smell. I'm curious to see what the powder charge is.
+nrainfidelforlife Sounds like you had a reasonably positive experience with it, I hope the accuracy is at least OK, but I have low expectations for any surplus ammo.
Nice unboxing! When i received this package my mom freaked out. Thanks for showing me a civilized unboxing lol
Mom's can be like that.
What did she think hey were… grenades\
It has been 2 years since you posted this so my question is did you have many failures?
I have had zero failures/duds.
That is the great thing about military ammo using Berdan primers. They have an incredibly long life, especially if the ammunition is stored under good conditions.
@@314299 was it just me, or im blind but it didn't look like the rounds were crimped
@@foredoom25 They are crimped but it's quite hard to see as it's a modest crimp.
I find it easy to roll the opener down one side to get a good tight roll on the key then just pull around in a circle the rest of the way. It's probably a little dangerous as it's sharp! But faster if you're impatient like me.
As far as rounds being packed the US packs 5.56 for the M16 A1-A4 and the M4 platform in 10 round stripper clips for our 30 round mags. Go figure.
I'm not so sure how a 30 round stripper clip would work.
In the 80's , some of these spam cans had the original steel core ammo.
This ammo is steel core.
Hi, I know about that Chinese ammo box says. The military reference a lot of Soviet Union arms system to build Chinese system, so in alot of things ,they didn't have much different.
In wood box,
line1,"7.62普（钢）" means 7.62毫米普通步枪弹（钢芯）, on English is 7.62mm normal ammunition with steel core (this sounds like armor-piercer bullet, but is not ,they just like FMJ ammo, normal, and lot being use day by day....)
line2, "56式“ means type 56
line3, yes, "发" means contain how much round inside.
and in wood box right
line1,can't see it ,but they should by same like spam can ,"2/1 樟 16/67-85" ,2/1樟 means two can in this camphor wood box , and I'm sure with next, they probably means ammo cartridge material batch number.
line2, "15-82-61"means this wood box in 1982 by factory code name 61 manufactured, batch number is 15
line3, "全重30公斤“，means this ammo with wood box, Wight 30 kg.
ps.all this ammo look like made by copper, but is not, ther just have copper coating, inside they made by steel, China didn't like US have a lot copper resources , so .....ues steel ceas , steel bullet, will make ammo be chiper, outside copper coating give that ammo work like copper ammo, but it ues in non-China type weapon, sometime cause Jams.
In new type ,like type87(DPB87) ,we still use steel cease, didn't coated with copper,but coated with paint...... and they do this with type 56 too...
(=_=;)sorry ,in right line1, "I'm sure with" .....should be "I'm not sure....".......look like you already figure out all this things...... when I typing, vid time just 2:38.......(・・;)
+Kevin Kevin Thanks a bunch for all the info!
Is it steel core like the older Chinese stuff????
Girls unboxing: New phone
Boys unboxing:
Haha
Look forward to the review after range testing.
I'm down to under 2 crates of Romanian and a half crate of Czech, so will have to stock up again before too long...
+ManitobaWolf Best get it while you can.
The factory: State Factory 61 (Long Jiang Special Equipment Company, Ltd.) - Harbin, Heilongjiang province, People's Republic of China.
Thanks for the info.
I wish we can get some in the states😢
I guess you'll just have to settle for our non corrosive ammo
For skk I had a 25 shot round magazine back in the mid 80s I had rounds the shells were green in CLOUR fmj rounds
I'm guessing that you mean an SKS? Perhaps the SKS "D" rifle that took AK mags? There were 25 round AK style mags sold back then, they were Chinese and were originally intended for the Chinese Type 63/68 rifle.
Why does Canada get the good Chinese ammo and the USA does not? Need to lift the ban on Chinese ammo.
Because Bill Clinton.
Because you get all the good guns! Our gun laws are bullshit, our ammo restrictions not as bad.
got me all excited for nothing I knew this had to be an old post. I got ahold of some Vietnam issue cans sold them when they banned the so-called armor-piercing rounds. It was the best day of my life. I bought 3 cans for 30 dollars at a flea market, sold them for 750.00 at a gun show. great day
Can't get Chinese anything in USA. I remember the copper washed rounds and the Chi-Com Steel core NORINCO
Till those stupid asses over at olypic arms made that stupid pistol , and clinton banned importation of that ammo ,heck it was as low as $75.00 for 1550{ the lowest i ever saw } , oly arms was told dont do it and yep ,dumbasses ,glad they went under ,overpriced trash.
That steel core was the absolute best! Punch a 8 inch hole in a concrete block wall in seconds.....
academy had these on clearance, got them for .12 cents per round, what a deal :)
They're on sale at PSA 😅😅 price they are now is ridiculous
Am i the only one who loved the Type 56 than the original counter part?
The type 56 is alright
@4:27 - does the 2/CHINESE CHARACTER 16/67-85 mean that the the ammunition was manufactured 2/16/1967 and marked "best used by 2/16/1985"?
NM. Saw explanation by another viewer. Was manufactured in 1967 but the others mean something else.
@@taekim6819 A translation of the markings indicates the ammo was loaded in 1982, while the powder used to load it was manufactured in 1967.
War Dogs brought me here
Mohamed Abdi first thing i had in mind during the whole video haha
I couldn't stop thinking about repackaging it and smuggling it across the US border, claiming it was legal ammo. Claiming it's my own ammo grandfathered in by having been imported to US prior to the import ban. Or even denying that it's Chinese. That's if caught, of course. People cross the border to buy cheap booze in Canada all the time, also to bypass the embargo on Cuban cigars, so why not cross over to buy cheap ammo? Yeah, yeah, it's probably illegal to bring it in. Even though it's entirely legal to own once it's across.
WELL,NOW THEY CAN BRING YOU RIGHT BACK...AHEM..~..~
You ladies/gents in Canada are really fortunate with some ammo prices, and the fairly recent good retail prices for very nice examples of the Russian SKS.
However....the need to clean any of my four imported AKs the same day after using corrosive ammo makes such nice ammo prices unappealing.
I'm glad that you are allowed to buy a VZ-58 in 7.62x39, despite AKs being banned.
My "solution" for that problem is to never shoot more than one gun at a time with corrosive ammo.
The brown rappers in squares look like Fudge my mom makes on the holidays 😂
In Canada A similar round but for the SKS is around,
$500 a box there a bit ago..
I should see if there is a sale on it also!!
Thanks 4 sharing!!
+violeman This is the SKS round. Are you thinking perhaps of the 7.62x54R?
Well I heard you talking about an "AK " But we can not use them or be in possession of an AK- Kalashnikov...(In Canada)...
So Yes ,
We can use the "SKS" Riffle making this a cheap and aford able round because it "SKS" & Most of the ammo is coming from China now...
So it is cheaper ..
That looks like a good box!!!
Right On !!!
Happy Shooting in 2016
Thanks.
+violeman Actually some of us are "privileged" and can legally own an AK in Canada, however taking them to the range is a different story.
Chinese must be getting into the "newer" old stock :)
+Gungeek Well, if you think about it, it's been sold for quite some time now. It's bound to get used/sold up by now.
+Gungeek Yes, they must have got clear of all that old crap. Ironically the ammo meant to be used against the "Imperialist dogs" is being sold to them instead.
314299 Shooting Channel I'm sure any government wouldn't mind making a mint on old Ammo for a decommissioned weapon platform lol
314299 Shooting Channel imperialistic dogs :)
I know someone who has a Ruger M77 in 7.62x39 and he tested dozens of different ammo. In the end he told me the Chinese surplus ammo was the most accurate. I don't know if he was shooting that same stuff you have though.
+Prepare2Survive Chinese lead core 7.62x39 is pretty good stuff accuracy wise, however this is steel core so i doubt it will be anything special for accuracy.
State factory 61 manufactured in 82
Odd that it's not in stripper clips. That suggests to me that this was meant for the AK variant rifle with detachable mags instead of the SKS with the top load 10 rounds mag.
The Chinese were not issuing the SKS to front line troops when this ammo was made so that's a possibility.
6:49 am i the only one? but the sound of that paper is like nails on a chalk board for me
Man this is cool... we used to have the same system in Albania but the bullets would be submerged in Oil.
Submerged in oil? Never heard of that before. Generally one tries to keep ammo out of oil for fear of killing the primers.
I paid $39.00 back in the 1980’s for the same thing!
Good times.....
It was cheaper to buy a brand new SKS carbine & military surplus ammo than to buy a .22 rimfire rifle & .22 LR ammunition. Hell had frozen over. Then Bill Clinton walked among us, & hell returned with a fury.
The only "unbox therapy" I need. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment.
It's $349.99 now =(
+KThachPSN Ouch.
poopy prices on poopy ammo
This is actually quite good ammo, much better than some of the new steel case stuff, like MFS for example.
KThachPSN I remember like 3 years ago you could get them for $240
For the Chinese corrosive ammo?
Tenda Canada just had the non corrosive 1000 round bulk on for 339 Canadian. Usually see the corrosive going on sale for 300 for 1500 every now and then.
Good!
Still... How do you manage to buy ammo from the Third country like China? And, how do you import ammo? Do you have specific licence or allowance for that?
As a consumer I did not have to import anything, I simply went into the store, showed my firearms license, paid for the ammo and left. The importation and any associated permits, etc, would have been handled presumably by Cabella's or their agents.
@@314299 Thank you! Clear. Have a good luck!
When I bought this years ago it was on clips and the clips loaded into an SKS. Rifle with bayonet, new with bandoleer, cleaning kit, oilier and sling was 79$. With 1 crate of ammo less than $125. Unfortunately our right to bear arms un-infringed here in the US has become up for interpretation. Everything from zipcode to origin of arms has been used to restrict, tax and infringe our rights.
+worddunlap I've never seen the Chinese ammo sold here on chargers/clips, just paper packets of loose ammo or the commercial stuff in boxes.
+314299 Shooting Channel I bought a lot of 7.62 x 39 (several cases) on stripper clips in the early 90's here in the US. They came packed with 30 rounds (3 clips of course) packed in that brown paper wrapper then packed in spam cans.
Mine was corrosive also. Still it worked and other than an immediate clean up having to happen it was decent enough stripped with bandoleers. I believe they were dated in the 1950s/60s Ammo they neglected to use in Korea and Vietnam?
I bought it in all sorts of case/package configurations back in the 1980s. I even scored a good bit of this type of ammo in 7.62 x 51 NATO in 300 round tins on 5 rd M14 strippers
@@psychobilly4162 como puedo comprar y que oportunidades tengo para ir donde vendan las cajas de 1500 municiones por $79 dolares
I bought a case of Chinese 7.62 x 39 in the early 80s. 2 Spam was in a crate, 3 stripper clips of 10 rounds in each paper wrapping.
How many rounds total? I would expect less in a crate if they were on stripper clips.
7.62 Common (Steel)
Type 56 (rifle) SKS
750 Round..
All I know are these :D~~
Did you ever upload a video of when you pulled the bullets? The reloading stuff is really interesting to me. Or was it just like the Norinco so you didn't bother.
No, I did not put up a video of the dissected ammo as it was so similar to the other Chinese military ball that I have pulled apart in the past.
Nice informative video.... But damn I'm jealous !!!! If almost everything else here in the US is made in China, why can't we get firearms and ammunition??? Oh well... At least we still have Tula and Wolf. Love your channel. Take off eh
+Joey P I would say it boils down to your government and your domestic arms and ammo industries not wanting the cheap imports of Chinese guns and ammo to continue, there was a time that Chinese guns and ammo were cheap and widely available in the USA.
One reason we don’t get Chinese guns is: the Chinese can make the Ak47 and it’s variants for about $150.00 verses our money grubbing arms dealers have to charge the govt about $900.00 to over $1000.00 per copy for the AR16 variation No.4. I hate it, you hate it, everyone hates it!
Well...now they did away with all Russian imports. So, no more Tula and Wolf. Back door gun control. Can't shoot the guns without ammo!
@@HenauderTitzauf the Chinese ak was only that cheap cause they were demobilizing reserves militia and large amount of regular infantry in the 80s to 90s.
So, 30 bundles of 25 rounds?
That tin of 750 rounds divided by 30 rounds in a magazine is 25 magazines exactly.
You learn fast grass hopper.
The casing color is the same as the bullet... T~T
Yes, that is because both the bullet and the case are steel with copper plating.
I think this is for the Chinese version of the RPD. If I remember correctly, the Chinese RPD belt consists of four pieces, each containing 25 rounds, unlike the Soviet one, which consists of two belts, each containing 50 rounds.
If you are correct that would certainly explain the 25 round packages. Thanks for the comment.
When opening once you get the key started on the strip you can just grab the strip with a pliers and pull it off it is a lot faster and safer
The resulting strip of sharp steel is not as "safe" as the coiled up piece you get from opening it with the tool provided.
I think this is the long term storage ammo there is a case that is one big can with a wire pull to open it also the 25 round boxes point at this being reserve ammo
The Chinese apparently had many billions of rounds of ammo as a war reserve.
@@314299 yea or it could have been that was how a different country did it
“...these are 25 rounds. And for some reason, that strikes me as an odd number.”
I see what you did there.
I even like your comment.
Now this is the only acceptable kind of unboxing video
Glad you approve.
Yinan Liu; If all the products from China matched the quality they put in their military products we wouldn't complain so much....Hal
The first marking is 7.62 basic (Steel)
56 style
750qt
The last one is the type of wood the box is made of.
Thanks.
Got recomended this watching wardogs
How can I get this, not for shooting, but for collection
I have no idea how you could do that.
"Yea I work at the galvanized strap and finger cuffs factory"
I know off hand that the RPK uses a 75rd drum magazine, not sure if the chinese had them but this could be intended for LMGs
The Chinese Type 81 light machine gun could use a 75 round drum magazine, and is quite similar overall to the RPK.
How the us sold the ammo from the war dogs scam lol
Hunting Extraordinaire what was the war dogs scam)
wish you could still find these
Depending on where in the world you live it might still be available.
I love your videos! you're like the Canadian version of Hickok45. I wish I had a collection like you! I've only had my PAL since Oct 2015 just starting my collection slowly.
I wish I had a range behind my house like Hickok45 does. Good luck with your collection.
Opening ammo crates, need to add Christmas music. Give it that 'oh, boy, presents!', feeling. Santa Clause remembered me!
Be a bugger for old Santa to tote around a sack of these, heavy stuff!
3 packs per drum... The South Africans packed them the same way.
A sticker on the side of a crate that I bought lists the production date as 1970, in English.
That is earlier than I've seen on any I've examined.
5:00 omg i love these sounds ^^
Lina Wasiljew Finding the ASMR in an ammunition unboxing, gotta love the creativity
SumRandomGamer creeper
DukeOfTennessee117 Alright Jarhead
Lina Wasilijew be my valentine
The PLA Red Chinese ammunition can looks like it was designed for a left-handed person to open. The host has to awkwardly use his left hand to twist the key.
It's mostly awkward trying to open as I'm working around a camera tripod.
These are very much sought after ammo too, light armor piercing. I got some from the Vietnam war time, The advantage in that war the communist has this light armor piercing that zip through very wide trees and a lot of brush, While the Americans 5.56 would go into3 inch's of brush. I tested the stuff I had and it went through a tree trunk as wide as my chest with no problems.
Thanks to Bill Clinton, this ammo was considered “armor piercing” when it was not… and was banned from importation.
@@nigel900 they still banned korean sells of American firearms back to this country for us collectors!
@@dragdragon23 I remember back in the 80’s at a gun show, new SKS rifles were selling for $69 each… and if you bought a case of this ammo for $150, they gave you a rifle… no joke! Bill Clinton came along and in 1994 stopped all importation of Chinese AK’s, SKS and Chinese ammo. As to the Korean firearm sell-back… that is coming to an end soon.
@@nigel900 very true! the price of the ammo was cheaper at 80 bucks a case. We always say it'll be here next time and it's not. Could of stocked up on the ammo big time! Remember the on side business that sprong up selling extra's for the SKS rifle. I bought SKS with a fiberglass stock, folding front legs, scope with rifle a hundred bucks.
I seen so many trucks with SKS rifles in their back window was amazing, but not now!
@@dragdragon23 Amen Brother 🫡🇺🇸👍🏻
Amazing. The packaging on this is made better than so many things these days.
I recall seeing the current Chinese service ammo is packaged in much more modern plastic crates.
5:18 - nice hiss :D
Since when has Cabelas had this in stock? How much again?
Cabelas Canada has it in stock. At the moment it is $299.99 for 1500 rounds.
Pelosi, said you cant have it.
is this the ammo from the movie war dogs?
No, they were selling 7.62x54mmR M91 Russian, the Soviet Union's standard rifle and machinegun round. It was packed in a similar crate but in a different type of ammo can.
When I was in the army back in the mid 2000’s our 556 were 20 in each box and Forget how many was in the can . Who knows maybe they messed up ?
This is bulk-packed ammo for export. They're packing in the most they can.
5.56mm NATO is packed 840 rounds (42 cartons or 7 bandoleers) per M2A1 can and 1680 rounds per plywood crate.
How exactly is the number of 5.56 is an ammo crate related to the number of 7.62x39 in an ammo crate? They are different in size, and I'm guessing made in a different country an packaged in a different size ammo can?
Thank you for showing how to open this candy box. I'm getting the 1100 case with stripe clips and after that I'm getting this one which will be cheaper
Yes the stuff on chargers/stripper clips is a whole lot more expensive and once you have some chargers you wont really need any more.
it so wrong I got way to excited seeing the ammo getting unwrapped...but I don't want to be right.
now when you say copper plated steel, do you really mean brass?
No, I said copper plated steel because that is what I meant. I've never seen a magnet stick to cartridge brass.
314299 Shooting Channel ah I skimmed so I missed that part.
25 rounds per package makes perfect sense. 25 divides into 750 perfectly. If there were 20 rounds per package you would be left with 10 rounds in one package. Aside from that how did they shoot in terms of accuracy and reliability?
Package size for military ammo generally has some relationship to the assigned load-out for soldiers and the mag size. I am not aware of any 25 round magazines for 7.62x39 Chinese issue rifles. As for shooting this ammo there is a video linked in the video description.
If you are ever without snips use two crescent wrenches closed right down on the strap side by side then pull them the opposite direction it's crazy easy
Interesting tip.
We get those alot in mexico pro tip when opening the can just wind the handle 3 times then just pull the ribbon around the can the rest of the way it's way faster, also its pretty handy for loading 75 round drums for rpk
No doubt that would work, but I'm not in huge hurry most of the time.
Couldn't help but keep thinking about the munitions boxes from 7 Days to Die as I was watching this
I was wondering what was the total price of the rounds during this time
This is the same ammo but not in a crate:
www.cabelas.ca/product/143338/surplus-762x39-fmj-bulk-ammunition
I hunt for 7.62X39 in tuna cans and it's become hard to find. I prefer tuna cans for saving ammo for long term storage.
I remember these from "lord of war"! How do they shoot anyhow?
th-cam.com/video/2L5HH_IAz7Y/w-d-xo.html
wow Cabela's had this wierd hasn't it been a little bit sense any Chinese ammo came state side?