The card board is a package label (the title means package label). The line under the title says "7.62 Normal (Copper Plated)", and the table below is the list of the date of packaging (Jan, 1971) and the names of the workers who packed the ammo. The first column of the table shows the type of job (e.g., QC); the second column is the name of the workers; the third column is the date.
Thank you for the translation, it's actually cool the workers put their own mark on their work and you can see it through history. Plus they need some credit for making that ammo box last so long in a high quality condition! WOW gorgeous ammo for being around 50 years old now
Packing slip 7.62x39 (steel plating) Work type Name seal Date Packing Jiaqing Tui jan 1971 QC Hongying Guo jan 1971 lid welding Hanqing Yao jan 1971 QC jan 1971
The black stamp next to the "1440" is to indicate the wood has been treated with a pesticide or similar chemical. This is used for wood pallets and such that are going to be shipped internationally. We ship product to Europe and have to use pallets that are treated and they have this same stamp.
The stamp reflects the IPPC ( International Plant Protection Convention) each country is required to ensure all wood products used in shipping practices will have the stamp visible. The stamp shows the country abbreviation and a code to identify the specific chemical treatment applied.
Those are quality rounds. Copper washed steel case, sealed case necks, paper wrapped, sealed galvinized steel cans. Would be perfect if it was non corrosive. Norinco AKs rank among the best too.
I always wondered how the US market would be different if we still had access to their ammo. Heck wolf gold and russia can produce their shit and ship it overseas for cheaper than what we can make it. This stuff would be worth a small fortune in the US. $1 round
I bought a bunch of this stuff in the mid '90s. IT IS HIGHLY CORROSIVE!. So, either shoot it out of a chrome lined barrel and piston, or if your weapon is not chrome lined, clean it thoroughly with a detergent solution (some say you can use Windex but I do not know) immediately after you shoot it. If you do not clean it, within 4 days, your barrel and some internal parts will start to corrode.
ammo with smokeless gunpowder if stored correctly (like a can) can be preserved for more than 200 years so when the military has lazer/ radiation weapons we can still fire our cold war ammo.
Modern smokeless power is quite stable if stored correctly, modern primers being also quite good but are more likely to go bad than the powder. Older manufacture powder and primers (pre WW2) are less likely to survive long storage as the chemistry was not as exact or controlled as modern production. Having said that there are still batches of WW 1, 1920's and 1930's ammo that still fires with reasonable reliability. As for 200 year storage, hard to say if ammunition could last in a reliable state that long, perhaps in cold dry storage they might. Since smokeless powder has been around for just about 132 years. we'll have to wait and see. I hope to have all my ammo used up before it gets to be 200 years old!
Boy that’s nice! I wish I could go back in time when this stuff was dirt cheap and load up on it. I always like seeing how well these hold up after all these years in those spam cans.
Copper washed, steel cased and jacketed. I remember buying that stuff by the case back before Klinton killed all the cheap chinese ammo imports. I also remember it coming on sks stripper clips. Good times indeed!!! Thanks to Olympic Arms and their OA93 AR pistol chambered for 7.62x39, that gave Klintons BATF reason to shut off the chicom ammo supply. Most of it being classified as AP.
A lot of 7.62x39mm is steel core. I dont think the regular steel core is terribly "armor piercing", it was made with a steel core as that was a cheaper less strategic materiel than lead.
The card board has the names of the three workers who packaged the bullets, who checked the package, and who welded the case lid. All happened in Jan of 1971.
old...? yes, but not ancient. if made and packaged properly, as well as proper storage, the ammo will be good for decades. shot some ww2 .45 cal(made may, 1944) last month...300 rounds, not a single dud. nice, bright, shiny, clean ammo.
The cardboard is an inspection check list. What's printed on the tin 56式 means type 56. 銅鍍 means copper wash. 樟 should be the name of the city in abbreviation.
314299 Shooting Channel I write on a site where people RP whole nations. When I am not locked in some huge war that requires me to read a lot of books to understand what is going on and how to counter player, I like to write about militias in third world nations just trying to make. it. I also run a paper and pen game where my players fight bandits, corrupt soldiers, and mercenaries so they can make a living and explore a war-torn nation. In both settings I I am thinking these kinds of tins would be interesting to show up. To describe them and how they are, what is inside of them.
La tarjeta de cartón es una etiqueta de paquete (el título significa etiqueta de paquete). La línea debajo del título dice "7.62 Normal (cobre plateado)", y la tabla a continuación es la lista de la fecha de empaque (enero de 1971) y los nombres de los trabajadores que empacaron la munición. La primera columna de la tabla muestra el tipo de trabajo (por ejemplo, control de calidad); la segunda columna es el nombre de los trabajadores; la tercera columna es la fecha.
That is some great ammo! There was a time here in the States $79.95 would get a case delivered to your door. Not bad for 1440 rounds on SKS stripper clips!
Zach Matthews The copper washed, steel core Chinese ammo was/is exceptional if you can find it. Banned from import a long time ago, its expensive though these days.
314299 Shooting Channel I'm trying to make up my mind if I should buy one. I'm using it for target shooting and plinking,.as the ammo for this is cheaper than most higher caliber ammo. I do appreciate and value your opinion,.and also you rapid replying time too. Thanks.
I don’t know anything about ammo and aside from the obvious that they are rounds meant to do harm are they dangerous when they are old like this like could they misfire or jam up in the barrel or do they just get weaker with age.
Old ammo is not as a general rule "dangerous". When it gets really old (70-80 years) it can get unreliable as the primers may stop working properly. Most important are the conditions under which the ammo was stored, if it was stored in a cool place it will last a long long time. Heat will cause the ammo to break down much more quickly.
I have some Norinco yellow box 7.62x39 from the mid 90's here in the USA. Massive difference in quality packaging wise. The ammunition looks exactly the same, though.
im at the point where I wont even shoot corrosive military surplus ammo out of my rifle, there is only one exception to my rule and that is "Yugo M76" 7.62x39. and thats only because its some of the best fmj brass cased surplus ammo ever and very accurate for me. surplus x39 ammo here in the states isnt even cheap or always available, most people who shoot buy it because shooting ranges will allow it.
good thing i am currently taking my second semester of chinese... the ammo was manufactured January of 1971 Work(or)Job / (Name of worker / Date Packing / Jia qing Tui / jan 1971 QC / Hong ying Guo / jan 1971 lid welding / Han qing Yao / jan 1971 QC / (blank space) / jan 1971 and incase anyone is wonder the chinese count days months minutes like so... Year(年)/Month(月)/Day(日 or 号 )
Of course it's still safe. I've fired ammo that was considerably older (early 1950's) without issues. As to how I bought it that is simple, we ordered it from the business that imported it and they shipped it to us after we paid them for it.
Kevin Frost firearms from Comm Bloc countries are generally all ok with running each other’s 7.62x39 ammo so whether it be your SKS or your Yugo AK I think it should be fine. Ammo tolerances are pretty much all the same
Regrettably Google translate does not give an understandable translation of this comment, so I'm unable to reply (or even know if a reply is necessary).
Ammo made in the middle kingdom from 1971, Norinco is too slow in clearing its storage. They sold so many AKs over these several decades, and yet still a lot of ammo left. They are not selling as many ammo. Translated by Alex Wang
Wouldn't recomment putting your fingers in a crate before you've opened up and inspected. That's a good way to get bit by a little stowaway such as a spider. The weird bugs I've seen in boxes/crates... *shudders at thought* I assume you've fired a good number of these off. Any thoughts?
+Pan da I have fired several hundred of these and they have been 100% reliable. I did a couple more videos on this ammo: th-cam.com/video/IbHVls29s28/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/DiuScDDkicM/w-d-xo.html
Yes, they are steel core. They are not banned from import where I live (Canada). I assume you are in the USA, where Chinese ammo is banned from importation.
314299 Shooting Channel We can, however sell and trade leftover old stock that are still available here in the States. Are you able to own semi-auto rifle in Canada? Or are all firearms that are classified as an assault weapon banned there?
Yes, we can own semi auto firearms in Canada, ou can have an AR-15, SKS, Tavor, etc. Some specific models are "prohibited" by name, it all does not make much sense.
Han Liu 2010 Norinco ammo I've seen was packed in "spam" cans the same as Russian ammo, Each can comes with a "key" which is used to open the can. Different than the cans in this video.
Yes, I know. I have a set now, I did not have a set when I made this video: th-cam.com/video/ByR7hjowiAk/w-d-xo.html&lc=z232wdtgnwjtvtn1macdp432gjcujk3ihjakojfalppw03c010c
How much of the crate do you have left? I got one of the Marstar 720rd cases of Hirtenberger .308 around 2 years ago and still have more than 1/3rd of it. I feel like 7.62x39 is a lot more fun to shoot so you've probably cranked through that crate by now.
although you dont see it alot on my channel i shoot a lot of SKS, ive gone through 4 crates in 3 yrs , like you say once you start shooting corrosive in a day you might as well go for it. you will have to clean it well to get rid of the corrosive salts
I think the ammo is not copper plated. The wooden box english description name was printed afterwards...may be for import purpose,chinese never put english on it right?. Secondly, check the steel box paintings. Type 56...for chinese army type 56 semi-auto rifle. Same 1971 Jan production. The first line..have bigger a chinese word means normal, oridinary..which means it is not AP or whatever. Then it said steel plated i guess...there the first chinese word is simplified writing..that we do not use this word means for metal plating in hong kong, taiwan or southeast asian. Then second line have a production site...i guess near fujian provence, eastern china. The other codes then i cant guess it already.
There is no way to give an absolute number to how long any ammo will remain functional as so much depends on storage conditions. The ammo in the video is over fifty years old and works fine, I have tested seventy year old ammo that also worked fine.
+Uncle Deez The Sweat shop business model was introduced to China by the Hong Kong and Taiwan business like FOXCONN after 1978 market economy reform. When those ammo were produced in 1971, state armory only accept model worker with "Red Root", i.e. offspring of proletariat family, to work there. They don't trust former landowner and bourgeoisie with the weapons of revolution.
Are you by any chance buy this for an SKS? I remember reading somewhere that these crates were designed to be opened by using the bolt handle on the rifle to pull on the D-rings on the cases. Just thought that was an interesting piece of information :)
I really doubt anyone "designed" the D rings to be used with the rifle bolt handle, I'm sure this is pure coincidence. Great way to crack the stock of your rifle using it as a pry-bar. Armies are very keen on not using weapons as tools and punish soldiers for doing so, although there are undoubtedly some who have done so and got away with it.
I have used Romanian and Czech 7.62x39 M43 ball and over all the Chinese stuff is equal in performance, some of the later produced Chinese is even superior in accuracy.
i would imagine that during wartime the official chinese opening method would invloe throwing the box out the back of a truck and hoping it brakes open when it hits the ground
They probably wouldn't had allowed that crate to come into Canada without the IPPC stamp on it. The stamp means that it was fumigated with methyl bromide in China.
I would rather pay a bit more for non corrosive ammo. Steel case tulammo is not much money. It's just not worth messing up your rifle to save a few bucks on ammo.
+Free Raven This was about 1/2 the price of any non corrosive 7.62x39. As for "messing up" my rifle that has not happened even after firing hundred of rounds of this stuff, all that's necessary is a proper cleaning after shooting.
+314299 Shooting Channel exactly! Think about it, wars were fought and won with corrosive ammo. If you're keen on cleaning, you'll never have a problem.
The card board is a package label (the title means package label). The line under the title says "7.62 Normal (Copper Plated)", and the table below is the list of the date of packaging (Jan, 1971) and the names of the workers who packed the ammo. The first column of the table shows the type of job (e.g., QC); the second column is the name of the workers; the third column is the date.
Yep, surplus
Taiwanese?
Thank you for the translation, it's actually cool the workers put their own mark on their work and you can see it through history. Plus they need some credit for making that ammo box last so long in a high quality condition! WOW gorgeous ammo for being around 50 years old now
Kinda sad but its very likely put there so you know who to blame if the ammo batch was bad
usually Chinese ammo are steel case since they have shortage in copper reserve
Packing slip
7.62x39 (steel plating)
Work type Name seal Date
Packing Jiaqing Tui jan 1971
QC Hongying Guo jan 1971
lid welding Hanqing Yao jan 1971
QC jan 1971
Thanks for all the detail.
Holy shit my parents were still kids in the countryside reading the red book when that ammo was manufactured.
when was it manufactured? lol
@@bayoutapes 1971
@@James-vj5hzyear of our Lord nineteen hundred and seventy one
Nice and fresh for 40+yrs old ammo, thanks for posting.
Apparently it was well sealed.
The black stamp next to the "1440" is to indicate the wood has been treated with a pesticide or similar chemical. This is used for wood pallets and such that are going to be shipped internationally. We ship product to Europe and have to use pallets that are treated and they have this same stamp.
Mi risulta che siano le munizioni totali contenute, ogni latta ne contiene 720, che con 2 latte porta a 1440.
The stamp reflects the IPPC ( International Plant Protection Convention) each country is required to ensure all wood products used in shipping practices will have the stamp visible. The stamp shows the country abbreviation and a code to identify the specific chemical treatment applied.
@@filippo9617yeah that's how much is inside of banger projectiles
Those are quality rounds. Copper washed steel case, sealed case necks, paper wrapped, sealed galvinized steel cans. Would be perfect if it was non corrosive. Norinco AKs rank among the best too.
Yes, they are good quality and were made to military specifications. While these are good I find the 1980's production to be even better for accuracy.
I always wondered how the US market would be different if we still had access to their ammo. Heck wolf gold and russia can produce their shit and ship it overseas for cheaper than what we can make it.
This stuff would be worth a small fortune in the US. $1 round
Yep. Back in my day, we shot the Sam hell outta Chinese ammo before it was banned. I sure wish we could still get this stuff in the US of A.
Rusty - Really?? I pay under 20c for 7.62x39 in CA
they were made in 1971 when Mao still existed.
Yes, Mao, the man whose policies and political purges from 1949 to 1976 caused the deaths of between 49 to 78 million people.
+314299 Shooting Channel Can anyone still buy that ammo?
Anyone in Canada with the money and a firearms license could buy it, assuming they still have some in stock.
Sadly, they actually didn't.........And people have been keeping kill each other for 10 or more years.
I think the correct word for it was civil war.
These old crates remind me of something from a Rambo movie. Sitting in an old Russian warehouse next to the grenades and RPGs. lol
Yep!
made in 1970s, fits the era
Mao wasn’t the best of rulers
1971,packing workers and inspection workers signature.
40 years old history
The world was certainly a different place in 1971.
made in january 1971 for type 56
They are older than my parents!
I bought a bunch of this stuff in the mid '90s. IT IS HIGHLY CORROSIVE!. So, either shoot it out of a chrome lined barrel and piston, or if your weapon is not chrome lined, clean it thoroughly with a detergent solution (some say you can use Windex but I do not know) immediately after you shoot it. If you do not clean it, within 4 days, your barrel and some internal parts will start to corrode.
Those actually look like they're quality rounds. Nicely packed too.
Yes it's good quality ammo.
ammo with smokeless gunpowder if stored correctly (like a can) can be preserved for more than 200 years so when the military has lazer/ radiation weapons we can still fire our cold war ammo.
Modern smokeless power is quite stable if stored correctly, modern primers being also quite good but are more likely to go bad than the powder. Older manufacture powder and primers (pre WW2) are less likely to survive long storage as the chemistry was not as exact or controlled as modern production. Having said that there are still batches of WW 1, 1920's and 1930's ammo that still fires with reasonable reliability. As for 200 year storage, hard to say if ammunition could last in a reliable state that long, perhaps in cold dry storage they might. Since smokeless powder has been around for just about 132 years. we'll have to wait and see. I hope to have all my ammo used up before it gets to be 200 years old!
been shooting the stuff in my norinco sks for 25 years never a failure, when i bought my sks you could get a case for $40
You probably wish you had bought more at that price.
It's so satisfying when they are packed so perfect they are so lucky to have this
Boy that’s nice! I wish I could go back in time when this stuff was dirt cheap and load up on it. I always like seeing how well these hold up after all these years in those spam cans.
Yeah they sure were cheap compared to today.
Copper washed, steel cased and jacketed. I remember buying that stuff by the case back before Klinton killed all the cheap chinese ammo imports. I also remember it coming on sks stripper clips. Good times indeed!!! Thanks to Olympic Arms and their OA93 AR pistol chambered for 7.62x39, that gave Klintons BATF reason to shut off the chicom ammo supply. Most of it being classified as AP.
A lot of 7.62x39mm is steel core. I dont think the regular steel core is terribly "armor piercing", it was made with a steel core as that was a cheaper less strategic materiel than lead.
bought a crater of same ammo few years ago, not a single fail after I finished the whole crater, lot of fun, maybe I should keep one in my basement
The card board has the names of the three workers who packaged the bullets, who checked the package, and who welded the case lid. All happened in Jan of 1971.
Cool, thanks for the info!
包装标签
(Packing Slip)
7.62 普 （鋼鍍）
【7.62 General (Plated steel)】
0015-81 2/1樟21/69-85
(0015-81 2/1 No. 21/69-85)
工种 签章 日期
(Work Type) (Name) (Date)
装匣工 顏家清 1971年1月
(Pkg.) (Yan Jiaqing) (Jan, 1971)
檢驗工 郭洪英 1971年1月
(Pkg.QC) (Guo Hongying) (Jan, 1971)
焊盖工 姚汉欽 1971年1月
(Pkg.Wdg.) (Yao Hanqin) (Jan, 1971)
檢驗工
(Wdg.QC)
old...? yes, but not ancient. if made and packaged properly, as well as proper storage, the ammo will be good for decades. shot some ww2 .45 cal(made may, 1944) last month...300 rounds, not a single dud. nice, bright, shiny, clean ammo.
+Charles Sedlacek Quite true.
Hell I saw a video of a guy shooting WW1 .45 ACP
I still have 800 rounds of Chinese 7.62x39mm ammo. Are the chinese 7.62x39mm band in the USA?
Importation Chinese "military" ammo into the USA has been banned for a long time.
The cardboard is an inspection check list. What's printed on the tin 56式 means type 56. 銅鍍 means copper wash. 樟 should be the name of the city in abbreviation.
Cool, thanks for the info.
Thank you for making this, this is very helpful for me as a writer. I will be sure to look at your other videos.
+Tevo77777 Mind if i ask how this video will help with your writing?
314299 Shooting Channel
I write on a site where people RP whole nations. When I am not locked in some huge war that requires me to read a lot of books to understand what is going on and how to counter player, I like to write about militias in third world nations just trying to make. it.
I also run a paper and pen game where my players fight bandits, corrupt soldiers, and mercenaries so they can make a living and explore a war-torn nation.
In both settings I I am thinking these kinds of tins would be interesting to show up. To describe them and how they are, what is inside of them.
+Tevo77777 nationstates? If so I have a few nations on that site.
TheNavyShark
Oh really? Link?
All my recommended videos are SKS videos, ammo videos and forgotten Chinese weapons.
I was born January 71, really cool.
Cowboytwinkie wut
La tarjeta de cartón es una etiqueta de paquete (el título significa etiqueta de paquete). La línea debajo del título dice "7.62 Normal (cobre plateado)", y la tabla a continuación es la lista de la fecha de empaque (enero de 1971) y los nombres de los trabajadores que empacaron la munición. La primera columna de la tabla muestra el tipo de trabajo (por ejemplo, control de calidad); la segunda columna es el nombre de los trabajadores; la tercera columna es la fecha.
Gracias.
DAMN!
Protect the crate and even saving the nails!
This old ammo case looks so cool.
That is some great ammo! There was a time here in the States $79.95 would get a case delivered to your door. Not bad for 1440 rounds on SKS stripper clips!
That's cheap all right. None of the Chinese 7.62x39 that I've seen came on stripper clips.
It's usually the Czech that have stripper clips
Zach Matthews The copper washed, steel core Chinese ammo was/is exceptional if you can find it. Banned from import a long time ago, its expensive though these days.
Don't know why, but I love watching ammo can opening videos
It's better entertainment than most of the crap they put on TV today.
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package label
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7.62 standard （Steel Plated）
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0015-81 2/1 Zhang 21/69 85
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Type of work | signature | date
Package | Yan Jiaqing | 01/1971
Inspector | Guo HongYing | 01/1971
Cover welding | Yao HanQin | 01/1971
Inspector | | 01/1971
Thanks.
Those are copper-washed steel cases correct?
Yes, copper plated steel case, Berdan primed, steel jacket bullets.
produced in Jan 1971, these thing are antiques!
Somewhat old, perhaps. Antique, no.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique
Let me know how it shoots. I'm getting low on 7.62x39
I hope to take some out to try soon, if I can get a day with decent weather.
If you had a choice of one only,.which would you buy a CZ-527 in this caliber or the Savage Scout model 10 FCM in same caliber ?
I would pick the CZ.
314299 Shooting Channel I'm trying to make up my mind if I should buy one. I'm using it for target shooting and plinking,.as the ammo for this is cheaper than most higher caliber ammo. I do appreciate and value your opinion,.and also you rapid replying time too.
Thanks.
Reg Sparkes
Either rifle would be fine, I just prefer CZ rifles over Savage.
CZ all the way.
I own both. The CZ-527, all day long.
I don’t know anything about ammo and aside from the obvious that they are rounds meant to do harm are they dangerous when they are old like this like could they misfire or jam up in the barrel or do they just get weaker with age.
Old ammo is not as a general rule "dangerous". When it gets really old (70-80 years) it can get unreliable as the primers may stop working properly. Most important are the conditions under which the ammo was stored, if it was stored in a cool place it will last a long long time. Heat will cause the ammo to break down much more quickly.
@@314299 thank you
I have some Norinco yellow box 7.62x39 from the mid 90's here in the USA. Massive difference in quality packaging wise. The ammunition looks exactly the same, though.
I think the ammo is identical.
I wonder what ammo prices would look like if we could import Chinese ammo...since they would compete with stuff like Wolf and Tula.
Chinese ammo is great, it is cheap and economical, buy it, have some fun!
copper case, wow
ThatXoneXguy $225
Always run your gun through the bathtub afterwards tho. This stuff is corrosive!!
???
Well it was cheap but those ammo are not fresh already
The orange 4.1 is called a placard for shipping hazardous materials
When I got an identical crate back in "the day" it came with a Norinco AK, total cost for both was $200.
Quick, to the time machine!
im at the point where I wont even shoot corrosive military surplus ammo out of my rifle, there is only one exception to my rule and that is "Yugo M76" 7.62x39. and thats only because its some of the best fmj brass cased surplus ammo ever and very accurate for me. surplus x39 ammo here in the states isnt even cheap or always available, most people who shoot buy it because shooting ranges will allow it.
good thing i am currently taking my second semester of chinese... the ammo was manufactured January of 1971
Work(or)Job / (Name of worker / Date
Packing / Jia qing Tui / jan 1971
QC / Hong ying Guo / jan 1971
lid welding / Han qing Yao / jan 1971
QC / (blank space) / jan 1971
and incase anyone is wonder the chinese count days months minutes like so...
Year(年)/Month(月)/Day(日 or 号 )
Thanks for the translation.
Helpful & informative. Tks
Munição fabricada em 1971, ainda é seguro? Como conseguem comprar isso?
Of course it's still safe. I've fired ammo that was considerably older (early 1950's) without issues. As to how I bought it that is simple, we ordered it from the business that imported it and they shipped it to us after we paid them for it.
Damn lucky ass Canucks... I'm so jealous :) I would oodle over this for years if I could get in in USA. Take care my Canadian (I assume) friend.
tfoshohoe Thanks.
Why would you buy old Chinese ammo?
Same reason anyone buys surplus ammo. It's good ammo and was a very good price when available.
@@314299 , kinda dirty isn't it?
Not any worse than any other surplus ammo.
No doubt Vietnam is still littered with that stuff.
+Armand Rodriguez No doubt there is still some stashed in forgotten locations.
+Ulsterman96 Oh, I'd believe that.
Ulsterman96 why Ireland, different import laws?
HERPY DERPEDY IRA
Eleos Soele ah ok Thanks for the info didn't know they used the Ak
What was the cost back in 2014? I see this on Gun broker between $275-300.00
I think I paid $225.
Does this ammo ONLY work in the Norinco SKS? And does the Norinco SKS only take this specific ammo?
Thanks!
Kevin Frost firearms from Comm Bloc countries are generally all ok with running each other’s 7.62x39 ammo so whether it be your SKS or your Yugo AK I think it should be fine. Ammo tolerances are pretty much all the same
It will work in any 7.62x39 chambered firearm.
天朝71年的子弹，北方工业这清库存的速度慢了啊，才卖到71年。这几十年卖了那么多AK，子弹卖的少啊。
Regrettably Google translate does not give an understandable translation of this comment, so I'm unable to reply (or even know if a reply is necessary).
314299 Shooting Channel hes saying norinco is slow at turnibg over their surplus ammo when compared to how many aks were sold
Turning*
Ammo made in the middle kingdom from 1971, Norinco is too slow in clearing its storage. They sold so many AKs over these several decades, and yet still a lot of ammo left. They are not selling as many ammo.
Translated by Alex Wang
Wouldn't recomment putting your fingers in a crate before you've opened up and inspected. That's a good way to get bit by a little stowaway such as a spider. The weird bugs I've seen in boxes/crates... *shudders at thought*
I assume you've fired a good number of these off. Any thoughts?
+Pan da I have fired several hundred of these and they have been 100% reliable. I did a couple more videos on this ammo:
th-cam.com/video/IbHVls29s28/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/DiuScDDkicM/w-d-xo.html
are these steel core ammo? they ban those back in 1994 from import.
Yes, they are steel core. They are not banned from import where I live
(Canada). I assume you are in the USA, where Chinese ammo is banned from importation.
314299 Shooting Channel We can, however sell and trade leftover old stock that are still available here in the States. Are you able to own semi-auto rifle in Canada? Or are all firearms that are classified as an assault weapon banned there?
Yes, we can own semi auto firearms in Canada, ou can have an AR-15, SKS, Tavor, etc. Some specific models are "prohibited" by name, it all does not make much sense.
They were produced and packed during the cultrual revolution, did you find any of them fail to fire?
+Gaoxiang Li No, so far they have fired 100% reliably.
+314299 Shooting Channel thanks for reply. I was worrying the impact of cultural revo on quality control.
The wooden case is also quite 1971-ish that I believe today Norinco would not produce ammo cases that so difficult to open.
Han Liu 2010 Norinco ammo I've seen was packed in "spam" cans the same as Russian ammo, Each can comes with a "key" which is used to open the can. Different than the cans in this video.
I'm not seeing that price on the website you mentioned. Where can I get ammo for such cheap price???
The video is a year old, they are sold out of this stuff.
314299 Shooting Channel Wanstalls is selling it and free shipping too CAN"T do better as of Feb 2015 $249 i thank
Canadiangunman17
Mine was $225, shipped, but that was last year.
It's corrosive, Damn it. anyone know a cheap non corrosive ammo that's like 21c/rnd shipped?
***** all 7.62x39 military ammo is corrosive. you can get wolf/brown bear bulk for the same price, around 20C/rnd if you can find it right now
is there an instruction manual on how to open up this box
Tin snips will cut that metal strap instantly, Wiss has a good set, you can get them at home depot, Lowe's, or and other hardware store.
Yes, I know. I have a set now, I did not have a set when I made this video:
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Where do you find Norinco ammo? I only find Russian or Bulgarian.
Where do you live? If you are in the USA Norinco ammo has not been imported for something like 20 years.
Makes since. I live in the US. Good to know. Always learning. :D
these surplus crates are the only reason i want an AK.
81 means Chinese armed forces
71 is the year it was produced
81 is the Factory code. It is the former Nationalist Factory 80, renumbered in 1953.
71 is the year of production (1971 AD).
It seems that those ammo were packed at 1971,Jan.Im wondering is that still operational?
+刘林安（lla9812） I have fired several hundred rounds of this ammo and all of it fired just fine.
How much of the crate do you have left? I got one of the Marstar 720rd cases of Hirtenberger .308 around 2 years ago and still have more than 1/3rd of it.
I feel like 7.62x39 is a lot more fun to shoot so you've probably cranked through that crate by now.
Most has been used up by now, anytime I shoot corrosive I shoot a bunch of it.
although you dont see it alot on my channel i shoot a lot of SKS, ive gone through 4 crates in 3 yrs , like you say once you start shooting corrosive in a day you might as well go for it. you will have to clean it well to get rid of the corrosive salts
Whats the size of the galvanized cans?
I don't know. The video is from 8 years ago and they are long gone.
The crates make great drawers! Dovetail joints very strong.
Another reason to buy ammo in bulk!
I've used this stuff before and it fouls the hell out of your gun, i spent an hour cleaning out the bore after putting 200 of them through
The asphalt sealant on the bullets is main cause of all the extra dirt in the bore and gas system.
so satisfying to watch.
Glad you like it.
Where can I buy ammo crates from other countries
gramps got nostalgic when i showed him this.
Wow, those were packed in January 1971
What a big crate of antique
these vids are just so satisfying
If you say so!
I think the ammo is not copper plated.
The wooden box english description name was printed afterwards...may be for import purpose,chinese never put english on it right?.
Secondly, check the steel box paintings.
Type 56...for chinese army type 56 semi-auto rifle.
Same 1971 Jan production.
The first line..have bigger a chinese word means normal, oridinary..which means it is not AP or whatever.
Then it said steel plated i guess...there the first chinese word is simplified writing..that we do not use this word means for metal plating in hong kong, taiwan or southeast asian.
Then second line have a production site...i guess near fujian provence, eastern china.
The other codes then i cant guess it already.
Does it realy take that long to open a box.
Only when one does a video about it.
What is the total bullets life of Chinese norinco
There is no way to give an absolute number to how long any ammo will remain functional as so much depends on storage conditions. The ammo in the video is over fifty years old and works fine, I have tested seventy year old ammo that also worked fine.
Thanks
I can't imagine placing and wrapping all those rounds by hand. Aint' no machine doin that!
+Uncle Deez I expect the people who did it had very low wages.
Oh there is no doubt. Sweat shops filed with 11 year-old kids doing it for the government. :/
At least they did a good job.
+Uncle Deez The Sweat shop business model was introduced to China by the Hong Kong and Taiwan business like FOXCONN after 1978 market economy reform. When those ammo were produced in 1971, state armory only accept model worker with "Red Root", i.e. offspring of proletariat family, to work there. They don't trust former landowner and bourgeoisie with the weapons of revolution.
6:00 those are the workers who loaded, exam-checked and sealed this canned package of ammunition
Yeah apparently a QC/packing list.
@@314299 yep you get it right
Are you by any chance buy this for an SKS? I remember reading somewhere that these crates were designed to be opened by using the bolt handle on the rifle to pull on the D-rings on the cases. Just thought that was an interesting piece of information :)
I really doubt anyone "designed" the D rings to be used with the rifle bolt handle, I'm sure this is pure coincidence. Great way to crack the stock of your rifle using it as a pry-bar. Armies are very keen on not using weapons as tools and punish soldiers for doing so, although there are undoubtedly some who have done so and got away with it.
This video was strangely satisfying to watch...
Thanks for watching.
How is the reliability of this ammo
100% reliable.
@@314299 have you had any experience with Soviet, Bulgarian or Romanian spam cans? Are they any better?
I have used Romanian and Czech 7.62x39 M43 ball and over all the Chinese stuff is equal in performance, some of the later produced Chinese is even superior in accuracy.
Lead based paint on that crate?
I should hope so.
How many of these were shipped to the North Vietnamese Army I wonder?
No idea, but bot this crate.
1971年的古董....
Old but still functional.
这子弹应该用不了
@@harryman8394 可以用 我买过surplus的
wow, those ammo are over 40 years old
Doris Tan So am I!
Norinco. The Only thing i actually like about China.
Man my only dream is if you could get this great ammo in the states
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i would imagine that during wartime the official chinese opening method would invloe throwing the box out the back of a truck and hoping it brakes open when it hits the ground
Wish i could find a crate of this to buy.
I expect someone out there has one for sale.
Weight Bullet, Steel Case, possible, 123 Gr. 125 Gr. 127 Gr
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Where can I find this stuff for sale?
+Matt Habeck he said canadaammo.com
Can you imagine trying to open one of them tins while bullets are buzzing all around you??????
Where did you find this ammo?
It was imported in 2014 by CanadaAmmo.
It fell from the plane
I started yelling "get some gloves on" and you heard me!
Thanks for the advice, you kept me out of trouble.
They probably wouldn't had allowed that crate to come into Canada without the IPPC stamp on it. The stamp means that it was fumigated with methyl bromide in China.
Makes sense, they would not want any strange bugs coming in the wood crates.
Is this stuff corrosive?
Yes it is.
China ammunition legal in Canada?
The time you got at that ammo the battle would be over lol
This type of packaging is intended to keep ammo safe and secure fro long term storage, you don't wait to open it when the bullets are flying.
這上面寫著五六式，"樟"是指某兵工廠嗎?7.62普通彈(銅鍍?)
发射药种类和批号
very entertainnig video...keep them coming. best regards to canada from a nevadan in the states.
Thanks. Nevada is a state I would like to visit sometime.
314299 Shooting Channel - I've been there. It's a fun place to visit. There are places where you can rent & fire a full auto machine gun.
I would rather pay a bit more for non corrosive ammo. Steel case tulammo is not much money. It's just not worth messing up your rifle to save a few bucks on ammo.
+Free Raven This was about 1/2 the price of any non corrosive 7.62x39. As for "messing up" my rifle that has not happened even after firing hundred of rounds of this stuff, all that's necessary is a proper cleaning after shooting.
+Free Raven Corrosive ammo will not mess up your gun it is just a dirty ammo and will dirty up your gun faster
+314299 Shooting Channel exactly! Think about it, wars were fought and won with corrosive ammo. If you're keen on cleaning, you'll never have a problem.
modern barrel and component coatings are highly resilient. nitride coating being one of the best. besides cleaning it will help too